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Hey weirdos. My name is Ash. And I'm Elena. And this is a mini morbad. Mini, mini, mini, mini, mini more bed. Mini
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morbid. Mini morbid. Mini more bed. >> It's so little. >> So little. Tiny. Small.
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>> I can't even see it. >> You can't see it. How are you going to read it? >> I can see it.
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>> Oh, >> just kidding. >> She's This is what she's telling me, folks. She's telling me that it's a a
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real mini. >> It really is. >> We'll find out. >> Guys, I promise it's an actual mini. I
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swear. Mainly because I'm tired this week. And this case just happens to be a mini.
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>> Is it a little tiny small? >> It's little tiny small. >> Oh, I made a really gross mouth noise
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just then that you're going to die when you edit out later. >> Cool. >> Sorry. >> Thanks.
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>> What did everyone do for Halloween? >> Yeah. I hope you guys all had a spooky,
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ooky, spectacular Halloween. Um, on the Facebook page, people have been posting photos of all their Halloween costumes,
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and you guys [ __ ] kill it. >> I'm just saying, whoever dressed up as old Greg, you won everything because
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that's been my favorite video since I When did I even find that? >> It's true. She found that way young.
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>> I think I was probably like 9 or 10. And me and my best friend Allison at the
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time used to literally watch it over and over again, yell about it to each other,
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be like, "Do you love me? >> Do you love >> could you learn to love me?" >> And you know what's funny? The guy who
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plays old Greg, so Ash used to tell me about this all the time, and I was like, "Yeah, okay."
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>> And she never thought it was funny, everybody. >> Well, I never watched it. >> Oh, you didn't watch it?
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>> Yeah, I never watched it. I was always just like, "Yeah, I've seen like like I
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know what it is. I've seen like the screenshot of it and then >> but she never >> she never laughed at my impersonations
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of old Greg. >> I didn't. And then uh Mama loves The Great British Bake Off. >> And by mama, she means herself and not
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me. >> Except Ash watches it literally every time I put it on. So >> I have no choice.
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>> She could pretend, but she loves it. But I really love it. >> Yeah, you get into it.
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>> I love baking shows of all kinds and cooking shows. So that's just who I am as a person. But the Great British Bake
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Off is so soothing and so wonderful. And the guy who hosts it, what's his [ __ ]
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name? >> Old Greg. >> His name is not Old Greg, but the comedian slash actor slash whatever he
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is. He's one of the hosts now. And he's the guy who is old Greg. And when he mentioned it on an episode, I was like,
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"Whoa, Ash, it's old Greg hosting." So, our worlds collided. >> I just want to know I want to know why
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he hasn't said anything on the baking show about it. >> He did. That's what I just said.
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>> Oh, he said it. Oh, he said it on the show. >> Yeah, on the show. He said, "I used to
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play a merman named old Greg." >> I love that. >> And somebody was like, "That's cool."
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>> And then somebody else was like, "You have a drunk Bailey's from a shoe." >> And now I've watched it and it's
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hilarious. So now I'm in. >> I do watercolors. >> So you know what? Good job, old Greg.
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Mother liquor. >> Good job person who dressed up as old Greg. You killed it. >> I It made my whole year.
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>> So yeah, everybody, honestly, everybody did an amazing job. There were a bunch
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of like Beetlejuices. There were a lot of Adam's family. There was just so many good ones. So you guys killed it.
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Peruge. Um this year I just brought my kids out because it was actually kind of warm
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outside which was kind of nice. And down the street from us, there's this house that in front of it, it has this like
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weird like almost like a mosselum looking thing that sits on the sidewalk. So you walk
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>> very creepy. >> Yeah. You walk by like the door to the mausoleum kind of thing. And it's always
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spooky. It's always been this spooky thing. And then on Halloween, the owner of the house is brilliant. and they open
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it up and they put a fog machine in there and lights and they make it like a little haunted mausoleum that everybody
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can go into and the owner is in there dressed up like spooking you out. >> That's so cool.
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>> So, we went by. Now, my kids are three and a half years old. We go by it and I'm like, "Oh, yeah, it's fine. Let's
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just scoot by it." Cuz I didn't want them to get freaked out. And as we're going by, one of my kids was like,
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"Whoa, whoa, whoa, mom, wait a second. I want to go in the cave." And I was like,
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"What?" I was like, "Well, it's a little spooky in there. Are you sure?" and she
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was like, "I want to go in the cave." We went to like six more houses >> the entire time. The entire time she's
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like getting free candy and she's like, "But I'd like to go in the cave. I don't
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want to trickor treat anymore." And I was like, "Okay, it's spooky." And she goes, "I love spooky, mama." And I was
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like, >> and then Elena melted into a puddle on the floor and died. >> I have done it right.
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>> And then she became resurrected. >> Yes. And then I took my three and a halfyear-old into this mausoleum room
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and she loved it. The other one, not so much. She gave it a try, but then she was like, "No, no." And she had John
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pick her up. But one of them was into it. >> I straight up fell asleep at 7:30 on
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Halloween because it was the day after our live show and I hit a [ __ ] wall from all the adrenaline. But don't
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worry, I woke up like an hour later and watched Texas Chainsaw by myself. I love
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that for you. >> It was so soothing. >> We actually because that's one of my favorite parts of Halloween is that
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every single horror movie ever is on. Yes. >> And you can just flick through the
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channels and just hit all kinds of them. >> So I go through and Beetlejuice is on.
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So I'm like, "Oh, hell yeah." So I go to Beetlejuice and John's like, "Yeah, I've
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never seen this movie." >> Um, I've never seen Beetlejuice the whole way through. I've only seen Bits
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and Pieces. >> Who are both of you? Who are both of these people that are in my house right
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now? I was got to my house >> luckily cuz I was like oh no this could change our relationship if we watch this
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and he's like this is dumb I'm going to be like what's happening though and we watched it and John was like all right
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that's a sick movie like he liked >> and I I have the bits and pieces I've seen have been good pieces
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>> he loved it and now I have to get him to watch the Adams family and Adam's family
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values cuz he never saw those either. Um, unpopular opinion. I don't love the original Adams family.
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>> No, Adam's Family Values is way better. >> I like Adam's Family Adams Family.
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>> I don't think that's an unpopular opinion. I like the original one. >> Yeah, me too.
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>> But the Adam's Family Values is superior. >> Mhm. I like when she's like, "Wednesday
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at the age where she only has one thing on her mind and the mom is like, "Boys and Wednesday's like homicide
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because I feel as though that was you as a child." >> It's 100%. I think I related so hard to
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Wednesday Adams and that when I was little. >> I love that for you. >> But enough about all my spooky childhood
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[ __ ] Uh, this is a mini episode, so we've actually done more talking than we normally do.
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>> Let's shut the [ __ ] up. >> Let's shut the [ __ ] up and get to the case, shall we?
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>> We shall. >> All right, let me preface this. I debated whether to preface this story
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with um it having a happy ending or not ahead of time. I'm going to preface it with it has a happy ending because it it
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kind of needs to be prefaced that way. >> Okay. >> I know I needed to hear that and um I
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have a lot of like quotes from the people involved in it. So, it kind of gives that away.
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>> It's like 7 o'lock in the morning. Are you going to really [ __ ] me up? >> Um I mean it's not like gruesome. It's
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It's more just like slightly disturbing, but it has a happy ending. >> I have to do seven blow dries later, so
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don't be [ __ ] up my day. >> I'm gonna [ __ ] up your No, I'm going to make it okay at the end.
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>> Okay. >> So, this was from July 15th, 1976. >> Oo, vintage. >> Very vintage. And actually, I am going
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to um bring up the person who suggested this case right now because they suggested it to me like literally
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yesterday. And when they did, I just happened to like peek at it and I was like, I'll take a look at it real quick
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because I take a look at the cases you give me that I don't know. And um this person's name was Thomas. So, thank you,
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Thomas. I'm not going to say your last name because I don't know if you want me to. But um I looked this up and when I
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looked it up, I was like, "Oh, this is perfect for a mini and I have to do it now." Cuz I was just so fascinated by
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it. >> You like threw your other mini out the window. >> I literally did and I and I couldn't
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believe I had never heard of this. Well, tell me what happened. >> It took place in Chailla, California,
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and uh it's known as the school bus kidnapping of 1976. >> So, the day before the final day of
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summer school at Dairland Elementary School, 26 children ranging in age from 5 to 14 were on a bus to be brought back
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to their homes. The bus was driven by Edward Ray. Uh he was known as Ed, but his name was Frank Edward Ray. He was
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previously a farmer, but he later became a bus driver. The kids absolutely loved
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him. And he was just one of those bus drivers that we all remember that we loved. You know, it was like
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>> they were just nice, sweet, they clearly loved kids. They cared about you. Like
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>> the total opposite of the bus driver that you remember that like hated kids and was the worst bus driver ever.
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>> I never had a bad bus driver. >> Really? I thought everybody had like that warm fuzzy bus driver and then that
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like demon sp one time and I was little and I forgot to get off at my stop and then he kept
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going and I was like no no no like you're supposed to stop there and he was like well you missed it and I was like
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I'm five. >> Oh my god. >> Yeah. >> So you did have a terrible poster. >> I did. I just I think you just
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resurrected a memory. >> Yeah. I was going to say that was a a deeply buried memory that you had.
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>> That was a deep cut. So Ed was great. Like and Ed was legitimately great. Like
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we we love Ed. Uh now according to a CNN report on the case, the kids all loved this summer school so much as well that
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they all signed a petition that day to have it last two more weeks. >> Shut up. That's so cute.
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>> Isn't that adorable? >> I would never have signed that petition. >> I know. But apparently it was all that
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like they have all these interviews with these kids now because again this has a
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happy ending. Uh and they all talk about how like it was like so much fun. They loved it. They did. It was almost like a
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summer camp kind of thing. >> Um, so these were all just happy kids who were going home after a fun day at
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summer school >> while driving down a rural road. Rural is so hard to say. >> Truly
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>> a rural road. >> Rural road. >> Road. >> The rural juror. Um, the bus came across
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a white creek van that had parked across the road and was blocking their way a bit.
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>> Yes. The bus had to maneuver around it to get by. And as they went by, Ed being
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the kind man he was, noticed the hood was up as on the in the van. So, he stopped briefly and just called out the
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window, "Does anyone need any help?" Cuz he thought this person had broken down.
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>> Don't ever offer help. Don't ever offer help. What? What? >> I think I I said this at the live show
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to somebody. I don't remember who, but like my main like affirmation that I use in life is never help anyone.
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>> That's just what just never help anyone. I just won't do it. Um, so as soon as he
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offered the help, three men with panty hoes over their heads jumped on the bus with guns.
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>> What? >> Saw off shotguns. >> What? >> Pointed at this kind man in a bus full
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of essentially babies. >> What? >> Yeah. the and I use I use the term men very loosely here.
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>> Let's say creatures >> because what man or human jumps on a bus full of children with a kindly older bus
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driver with a saw off shotgun? >> Not any man I'm trying to know. This case made me so I was so angry by the
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end of it at these guys >> and they're all alive and like literally [ __ ] all of you because like these guys
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are disgusting. >> I just want to know what the whole point of this thing is. >> Oh, it's ridiculous. There really is.
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This is the worst part. There's hardly a point to this. >> Keep going. >> There is, but this it's a stupid point.
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Uh, the men were 24y old Fred Woods, 24year-old James Shoenfeld, and his younger brother, 22year-old Richard
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Shoenfeld. I was expecting them to not be 22 and 24. That's wild. >> It's because I It's frustrating. All
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three of these guys had come from rich families and Fred had a trust fund of like over $und00 million waiting for
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him. >> So, Fred, what the [ __ ] you be doing? >> So, what are you doing? So, you may be
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wondering why the [ __ ] they did this. Well, I'll tell you in a bit. Uh, they demanded Ed to go to the back of the bus
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and they screamed at the kids to shut up and follow orders. Of course, the kids are freaking out, and Ed was just trying
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to calm them all down. One of the survivors, Jennifer Brown Hyde, as an adult, said in an interview, quote,
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"Edward kept telling his kids, "Just be quiet. Sit down. Do what they say." Edward was speaking in a harsh tone, and
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that normally was not Edward. That that normally was not the Edward that we knew
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and loved. So, poor Ed is trying to be like, "Guys, like, sit the [ __ ] down." you know, like trying really and he's
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like getting he's trying to be like >> a little more firm with them to make them listen because he knows if they
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don't listen, >> we're [ __ ] >> This could get really bad really fast. >> I have one of those lumps. I'm going to
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start crying. >> Oh, I while I was reading it, there was a couple of times I was like, "Oh no,
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what if I cry on the podcast for the first time?" >> Oh god. So, that means I'm definitely
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going to cry. >> You might cry. Uh the youngest baby on the bus was a little girl named Monica
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and she was only 5 years. >> No. And there's three men with sawoff shotguns yelling at them. Now,
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apparently, like I said, the kidnappers were wearing panty hoes over their heads, but they wore them so that the
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legs dangled down like next to their heads, >> which is stupid. >> So, like a like bunny ears. So, Monica
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asked one of them if he was the Easter Bunny. >> And here I go sobbing. >> I mean, that when I heard that this
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little 5-year-old is like, "Are you the Easter Bunny?" And this guy has like a saw off shotgun in her face and she's
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like, "Are you the Easter Bunny?" >> Oh my god. >> Like this poor little baby. >> Oh my god.
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>> She's like, "What the [ __ ] is Easter Bunny doing right now? >> What are you?"
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>> And that must have been Oh. So one of the men was pointing the shotgun at these children while another one drove
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the bus. >> He drove the bus through uh straight through a bamboo field and um all of
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these kids in the bus were jolting around. They said they were being thrown around the bus. Like it was really
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aggressive and awful. When it finally came to a stop in the bamboo fields, there was another van waiting for them.
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>> No. >> The men pulled the bus up to the back of that van and forced half the kids in
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there and the other half with Ed, the driver, into the white van that they initially used. Uh, the vans were
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outfitted with wood paneling and blacked out windows. They had made the kids jump
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from the bus to the vans so they wouldn't leave any footprints. So, this was very planned.
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>> Wow. >> Yeah. Now, one of the survivors, Larry Park, who is amazing, I'll tell you why
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later, uh, told CBS News, quote, "As a six-year-old, six years old, >> the only way that I can describe this
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darkness in the van is that it was trying to get me." >> Like, he these poor kids are in pitch
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black in these vans. >> My god. >> And they're all crammed in there. The kidnapper drove these kids in two in two
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vans, blacked out vans in 100 degree weather. They were 100° in those vans. Oh my god.
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>> Want to know how long they drove them for? >> Like hours. >> 11 hours. >> 11 hours.
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>> 11 hours straight with no water. No bathroom breaks. So these poor children are not drinking water. They're all
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screaming and crying. Some of them are as young as 5 years old. >> Probably getting like dehydrated.
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>> They're peeing. They're like nowhere to go to the bathroom. Some of them are vomiting. Like there's And they're stuck
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in these tiny little vans. >> Oh my god. >> And Yeah. And poor Ed is in one of the
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vans with one of them just trying to keep them all like >> I'm probably like, "What the [ __ ] is
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happening in the other van?" >> And he's sitting there thinking, "I don't know what's going to happen." And
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I'm having to tell these kids everything's going to be all right. And I don't know that everything's going to
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be all right. You know, >> and if you're sitting in that position, you're like, "Everything is surely not
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going to be all right." >> He's responsible for these 26 babies and he's and he's instead of like just
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cowering and being like, "I don't know what's going to happen." And crying himself, which I probably would.
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>> Yeah. He's like stepping up and being like, I need to be I I might die, right?
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But I need to pretend that I'm not scared of that. These kids like that. This guy's amazing.
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>> Like we love Ed. Uh so as this is happening, parents are obviously freaking out because their
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very young children are nowhere to be found after supposedly getting on a bus at school.
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>> Well, this is like all day at this point, 11 hours. >> And they are all calling the police and
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then they um and then they all started helping the police look for the bus because that was the first thing they
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were like, "We got to find this. Where could this bus have gone?" Right? It's a huge [ __ ] school bus.
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>> They're probably like, "Uh, Ed." >> Yeah. And I think that's probably people are like, "What the [ __ ] Like, where
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did it go?" >> Uh, the FBI was called in to help. It was mayhem. And finally, they found the
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bus via via an air search because it was so well hidden in the bamboo field. >> Wow.
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>> That they just found So, the parents just found this abandoned school bus and
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they found tire tracks moving away from the school bus, but again, no footprints.
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So they it was clear and the police said it's clear that somebody has pulled another vehicle up to this bus and
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driven away. >> Oh my god. >> Can you imagine being a parent? Like >> I can't imagine any my child's being on
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that bus and just seeing like they've been kidnapped off a bus, right? >> Like I
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>> like how do you wrap your brain around? >> I don't even So children are screaming, crying, like
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I said, like vomiting. It was a nightmare situation. the older kids as well as Ed the driver were just trying
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to console them. Even the older kids were stepping up just trying to like >> these kids are amazing and this bus
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driver is amazing because these older kids were like there was some that were like the oldest one was 14 his name was
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Michael >> and he like stepped right up and just became an adult for these kids like
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>> you know and meanwhile these are children the 14 years old you're a child and you're having to be an adult for
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these little kids trying to be like it's okay. Um, they said that Ed was trying to keep them calm by singing them songs
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like Boogie Nights. Love will keep us together. And if you're happy and you know it, clap your
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>> Oh my god. >> While they're in the >> I'd be like, I'm not happy and I know it.
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>> Well, I guess they changed the words to if you're sad and you know it, clap your
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hands. >> Oh my god. >> Yeah, it's so sad. Isn't this just like >> sad and you know it?
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>> And literally everyone in the van is like clap clap. >> Like what? Uh after almost 12 hours in
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that van, uh they were driven off the road and were again thrown all around the vans because they were like
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off-roading at this point. Then they stopped the vans. So first the kidnappers reached in the van and took
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Ed out and shut the door. >> No. >> So these kids said they just saw the van door open, Ed be dragged out, and the
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door shut. >> Does Ed die? >> No. >> Oh, good. Then the kids said they would open the
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door and just grab the nearest kid to the door, take them out of the van, and shut the door. So they were doing this
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one at a time. So they would do it again and again and again to every kid. So these kids all had no idea what was
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happening, right? As far as they knew, they were being taken out one by one and killed,
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>> right? >> I mean, that's what it looks like, right? >> One takes out, >> you don't hear anything, you don't see
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anything. Next one gets taken out. Like I'd be like, "Yeah, they're taking them out and shooting them in the woods." and
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leaving them for dead. So, as they were pulled from the van, one man asked their
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name, the other asked their age, and the third asked their address. They also took a little piece of clothing from
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each of them. So, the oldest boy named Michael Marshall, the one that was 14, uh he said that the kids were just
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clinging to him in the van that he was in, like all the younger kids, they were just clung to him.
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>> Um and he was just trying to be there for them. 14 years old. Uh he said finally it it was just he and the
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youngest the girl named Monica who was five years old in the van >> and she was just clinging to him for
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dear life. >> The kidnapper came and he went to grab Monica but Michael said he couldn't bear
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to hand him her over to him. >> No >> because again he had no idea what was happening.
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>> Right. >> And so he said he pushed her behind him and went ahead of her like a brave
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[ __ ] man at 14 years old. like a brave ass adult. >> Seriously. >> Um >> and poor Monica is just like sitting in
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the van alone. >> Well, and he said to CBS News, quote, "I had to take her hands from mine and rip
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and tear them apart, say it would be okay, and go with them and leave her. That was so hard."
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>> Oh god. >> So, this 14-year-old like understands like I need to know why this is
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happening. Well, what happened was the kidnappers month months before the kidnapping had buried a moving van in a
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ditch in the California rock and gravel quarry. >> Why? They had each child and Ed climbed
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down a ladder into this van that they had buried. In the van, they had put mattresses, water, peanut butter, bread,
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and cereal. Enough for one meal, not enough for anymore. Stocked on one side and holes cut into boxes for makeshift
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toilets. Uh, they put all 26 kids and Ed in this little moving van that was buried under
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the earth in a rock quarry. Then they took up the ladder and told them all, "We'll be back for you." And then just
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shut the top. >> No. >> Yep. Before leaving, the kidnappers put a manhole cover on the entrance that
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they had put the kids in, like on top. >> This is my absolute worst nightmare. >> Yeah. And then they put two truck
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batteries over that manhole so they couldn't move the cover. And then like you're just sitting there like are they
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gonna [ __ ] come back? >> Yeah. And then they buried the top of the van. They were buried under like
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between 6 and 12 feet of of earth. >> Nope. >> Yeah. And they could they said they
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could all hear dirt and gravel being thrown on top of the van. So they were literally
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>> in my mind I would be like this is like this is how we're going to die. >> Oh, they all said that. They said we all
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sat there and we're like we are being buried alive. Like we're buried alive. And some of them were like, as soon as I
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got down there, I was like, "This is our coffin. This is our giant coffin that they're putting us in."
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>> Why is this happening? >> Yeah, I'll get to it. I promise. Yeah. Uh, one survivor, Carjo Labender, was 10
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at the time. >> And she said, quote, "There were times we all thought we were dying. I promised
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God if I survived this, I would be the best little girl. I'd be the best little girl my whole entire life." Oh my god,
00:23:11
>> that part I got I just got like a little lump in my throat >> cuz thinking about this 10-year-old
00:23:16
being like, I I won't ever do anything bad again. Like, please just get me out of here.
00:23:21
>> Uh they were in this hole for 12 hours together. >> Okay. >> They said it was awful. I mean, the
00:23:28
bathrooms were literally holes cut in two boxes. There's 26 kids, right? >> So, these are just holes filling up with
00:23:36
everything. So the whole place is smelling of urine and feces and kids are vomiting because one they're in about a
00:23:43
billion degree weather. They probably have heat stroke. They're also just hysterical. So of course so
00:23:51
this whole place is filled with urine feces. >> I'm never putting my children on a bus.
00:23:55
>> Oh, I'm literally I never was anyways. Like I already told John I was like no
00:24:00
they're never >> I already told Ed. >> Yeah, I already told Ed. Uh they're never going on a bus. like my kids
00:24:05
aren't going >> because I don't I don't know any >> it's just not happening. I don't trust
00:24:08
anybody. I know there are beautiful bus drivers like Ed. Many of most of them are wonderful amazing human.
00:24:17
>> I'm not trying to chance it. >> But I don't know you and I don't I >> Now that I know this story, I'm just
00:24:22
like I think I'll drive my kid everywhere while they're wrapped in plastic wrap. I meant to say bubble
00:24:26
wrap, not plastic wrap. That's [ __ ] >> I'm just going to dexter up my kids and
00:24:30
drive them places. It's >> It'll be awesome. >> It'll be fine. And it's true. It's like
00:24:34
you can't I don't trust anybody kids. It's awful. Um, so the kids were crying for their
00:24:42
parents like Ed said there was a lot of crying for mama like which just destroys
00:24:48
my heart. >> Why are you doing this to me right now? >> Because there is a good >> Yeah. Can we get to it like like
00:24:54
Michael the Brave the 14year-old I want to like he should legally change his name to that. Um he said that it would
00:25:01
just be quiet, like dead silent in there all of a sudden and then one kid would start crying and the whole place would
00:25:07
erupt into like screaming crying. It was just a [ __ ] nightmare. >> Uh they all ate the food and then the f
00:25:13
cuz again this was like you know they're going on what >> almost 24 hours of over 24 hours of just
00:25:20
insanity. Uh, so all the food was gone because it was only enough for one meal. And then they had put a ventilation like
00:25:28
a makeshift ventilation system in there because they would have just suffocated right away,
00:25:33
>> right? >> And obviously these guys are looking to keep them alive for some period of time
00:25:37
because they put >> Does this all have to do with like ransom or something? >> Yes.
00:25:41
>> Okay. >> And the ventilation system they put in were just fans that were like put into
00:25:46
this thing and they the batteries all died. So, the ventilation system failed. So, now they're all literally like
00:25:54
suffocation, heat stroke, just all of this. Um, and then the roof began to literally cave in under the weight. It
00:26:02
was starting to bow in >> and like they could hear the creaking like pieces of dirt were falling in. So,
00:26:08
all the kids were like, "Oh, we're going to die here." After being literally buried alive.
00:26:14
So, Jennifer, the survivor that I mentioned earlier, told CBS News that once this started happening, they were
00:26:20
in full panic mode, thinking this is it. Then she says, quote, "We thought and they said, the older kids and Ed, if
00:26:27
we're going to die, we're going to die trying to get out of here." >> Yeah. So, this is when Ed and Michael
00:26:33
and a couple of other of the other bigger boys took the mattresses, they stacked them all up under the hole that
00:26:39
they were placed in, and they attempted to move the cover, but it wouldn't budge
00:26:42
because it was, you know. So, Michael said the kids were all cheering him on. Like, they were all literally like,
00:26:48
"Come on, Michael. You can do it, Michael." Like, it started turning into this like
00:26:51
>> I just got full body chills, >> right? I still get chills. um at last after like were I mean Ed and Michael
00:26:59
and these other kids were move they were trying for they said like hours they were trying to get this thing
00:27:04
>> they got it >> they were sweating they're like dying of heat stroke >> and all of a sudden another kid looks
00:27:11
and says it's moving I see it moving >> oh my god I'm going to cry right now >> right so they were all able to
00:27:17
collectively push the cover out of the way once it was moved there the um kidnappers had made a wooden box that
00:27:25
was placed around the entrance so it didn't go directly into the earth. You know what I mean? Like there was a
00:27:30
wooden box over the hole. >> Okay. >> So, Michael, Ed had Michael squeeze through the hole to get into that box
00:27:38
and try to see what they were working with outside of the box, >> right? >> Um, so when he got up there, he realized
00:27:46
that outside of the box was just earth. It was just dirt. So, he had to dig. So he and Ed ju he they just dug and dug
00:27:54
and dug for another hour or so until they reached sunlight. And when they saw sunlight, all the kids are freaking out.
00:28:03
The sunlight's pouring into the place. They're all like, "Holy [ __ ] we're going to get out of here." But then all
00:28:08
of a sudden, all the kids are like, "One, where are we?" And two, what if they're waiting up there,
00:28:13
>> right? >> Cuz all of a sudden, they're like, "We don't [ __ ] know what they want. We
00:28:16
don't know what's happening. We don't know if they've been sitting outside of this thing the whole time just watching
00:28:20
us try to escape like we don't know. >> But they were like what else do we have to get out of here?
00:28:25
>> Yeah. So one by one they hoisted each other up out of the hole. Luckily the kidnappers were not outside there. Um
00:28:31
the kidnappers where were they? Uh they were all taking a nap. >> Where? >> Yeah. They were taking a nap at home.
00:28:39
They had tried to call the police department to demand ransom of $5 million for these children's lives, but
00:28:45
the lines were jammed because the kids' families and the media were calling non-stop. So they could
00:28:51
>> have like a trust fund. >> Yeah. So they couldn't get through to the police station to demand the ransom.
00:28:56
So they were like, "You know what? We're real tired. Let's just go to sleep." >> Oh my god.
00:28:59
>> Let's take a [ __ ] nap while these kids die beneath the earth. >> We buried children alive and it was
00:29:06
tiring work. Yeah, we buried children in a kindly old bus driver alive in the earth, but we are so much of a sociopath
00:29:15
that we can lay our head down on the [ __ ] pillow and go to sleep. >> What I need to know is how did three
00:29:22
people this evil meet each other? >> I have no >> How does the world bring that much evil
00:29:28
together? >> That it it drives me nuts. And what but what kills me is while they're all
00:29:33
[ __ ] sleeping, they're quote unquote victims are just pushing through just committing acts of badassery getting the
00:29:43
[ __ ] out of that thing against all odds. >> This is like a straightup movie. >> It really is. And it's like I love the
00:29:49
the idea of them just snoozing away thinking they've buried these [ __ ] babies in the earth
00:29:55
like and these babies and this older guy are like [ __ ] off. And I love that they
00:30:01
were like, "We are not dying just sitting passively in here waiting for them. We are going to die getting out of
00:30:07
here. We're going to die." >> Like, "Yeah, babies." >> So once they escaped out of the hole,
00:30:14
they saw a man in the rock quarry. He was apparently because it was this was a rock quarry, so it's a working place.
00:30:19
People are working on machines and stuff. >> And the man looks over and sees them all
00:30:24
coming, >> 26 children coming out of the [ __ ] ground. >> Well, you know what he says? He looks at
00:30:28
them and he goes, "The world's been looking for you." >> Right. Like, >> I'm glutening my damn world.
00:30:36
>> Doesn't that just like When I read that, I was like, "Holy >> Oh my god. I just had chills for five
00:30:42
whole minutes. The world's been looking for you." >> Oh, >> because the world had been looking for
00:30:47
them. It was just these are >> I was waiting for you to be like He was going to say like the world is ending.
00:30:52
Like this is Satan's undead army. Like that's what the what the [ __ ] I would think. You see all these kids climbing
00:30:59
out of the earth. >> Probably just covered in like all kinds of >> I'd be like this is Satan's work.
00:31:04
>> Yeah, >> this is the work of the devil. >> Something bad's a foot. >> And I would run
00:31:12
>> run. But this man turns around and says the most movie worthy line I have ever
00:31:18
heard and just world's been looking for you. >> This whole [ __ ] is a movie. And they're
00:31:22
like, "Yeah, can you bring me back to the civilization of the world?" told me they were more than a hundred miles from
00:31:29
Chowilla. More than 100 miles they were driven away from where they were. >> Um the police came obviously cuz the guy
00:31:36
called >> That's what they do. >> Um and Ed led all these these and Ed had led all these kids out like to safety.
00:31:43
>> Oh my god. Ed did he get like the biggest heroism award? >> Oh yeah. Just wait.
00:31:47
>> Heroism I said >> heroism. >> Correct. >> Close. Uh, so the police had to take
00:31:52
them the only place that was like safe for all of them to go, which was the local jail.
00:31:57
>> Oh god. >> They weren't put in like cells or anything. They were put in these things
00:32:00
like these rooms. But I guess the kids when they pulled up, they were all like, "We're going to jail. Like why are we
00:32:05
going to jail?" Uh, they were all photographed. They were checked by doctors. They had interviews.
00:32:11
>> You kept saying like the survivors and I was like, "Does somebody die?" >> No, that's why I didn't want to like
00:32:17
give too much away. That's all I want to say. Uh, no, they were all relatively unharmed. There was some heat stroke.
00:32:23
There was obviously shock and trauma, >> but physically they were all relatively
00:32:29
all right. >> Oh my god. I hope this kid when he gets caught, I hope his trust fund paid for
00:32:33
their therapy. >> Seriously. Well, they were all given soda and apples at the police station.
00:32:52
>> Oh my god, stop it. That was so pure. >> And then they were freed to go with their families, which all of them said
00:32:57
like I think the guy um Larry Park I mentioned, he said that he literally just like went his mom picked him up in
00:33:05
her arms and she and he said, "I just said, "Hi, mom." and put my head on her shoulder and fell asleep.
00:33:11
>> Cuz he cuz he was six. >> Like he was six. He's this little s. He's just like, "Hi, mom."
00:33:17
>> I just keep picturing your kids and that's all I kept picturing. >> Oh, I I I
00:33:24
>> I don't even know what I would do. >> No. To these people when they got caught, I I would go to jail.
00:33:30
>> Oh, I would 100%. >> I would just start ripping them apart with my teeth. >> I could not The thought of it is
00:33:37
unfathomable. It really is like to articulate any kind of thought when it has to like putting myself in this
00:33:44
situation and none are coming. >> I would turn into a creature and just rip them to shreds.
00:33:50
>> I would literally turn into my true form and I would just >> I would call upon Satan after Satan's
00:33:56
work and just be like, "Yo, sir, >> I need your help. >> Give me the power. >> Give me the power." I would call upon
00:34:01
the power of men. >> I was literally going to say that after you said whatever you said.
00:34:06
>> All the corners craft style. So, hit me up with how these [ __ ] get caught. >> So, unfortunately, none of the kids
00:34:13
could say a lot about what they looked like because they were wearing panty hose over there. Except they look like
00:34:18
the Easter Bunny. But a team went back to the quarry to search the buried van for clues. And they figured out that the
00:34:24
only person who would have access via a key to this rock quarry was Fred Woods, who was the son of the owner of the rock
00:34:34
quarry. >> You [ __ ] straight up idiot. [ __ ] idiot. Thank god you're an idiot.
00:34:38
>> Of course, he became the chief suspect. And once they put it together, the other
00:34:42
pieces, they were led to the other two [ __ ] fools. >> Um, Ed was also able to give one of
00:34:47
their license plate numbers under hypnosis. >> [ __ ] >> Yeah, they put him under hypnosis and he
00:34:53
read aloud their license plate number. >> I don't want to know what I would remember under hypnosis.
00:34:58
>> So, here's here's Ed just helping even in like a subconscious state. Ed's just
00:35:03
a big old help. >> Ed. Ed. Ed. So he's a hero. >> Heroism. >> Two years before this kidnapping, Fred
00:35:10
and his Fred Woods and his two friends, James and Richard Showenfeld, the three kidnappers.
00:35:16
>> Douchenfeld, >> they had been arrested for Grand Theft Auto. So they were already had arrest
00:35:21
warrants on them. >> You're rich. Why are you stealing things? >> That's what kills me. And that's what
00:35:26
nobody truly understands about this. They were three rich [ __ ] >> right? They're [ __ ] bored. Um,
00:35:33
investigators served and executed a search warrant at Fred's father's mansion, and they found one of the guns
00:35:39
used in the kidnapping, so they were able to tie him. They also found a literal document labeled plan
00:35:45
>> that detailed the entire thing along with a ransom note. Um, apparently they have been meticulously planning
00:35:54
this for over a year. >> I believe it. I mean, that was so >> Yeah, it was >> I hate to say I was going to say I hate
00:36:00
to say well orchestrated, but >> it was >> and I mean months before they were caught, this whole thing happened.
00:36:08
That's when they started burying this van. So, they were already like getting this all together
00:36:13
>> to put that whole like place together >> and they and actually they were able to
00:36:18
gather witnesses that said they had noticed people digging in there like months earlier, but they didn't know
00:36:23
why. Uh, so Richard Shoenfeld was the one who turned himself in. And as we'll see, Richard seemed he's the youngest
00:36:30
one of the kidnappers. >> He seems to be the one that was along for the ride. >> And he shows the most remorse. Uh, he
00:36:39
turned himself in. >> So, he's somewhat of a human. >> He acknowledges that it's horrific and
00:36:44
that like he's he acknowledges it. I'm not saying he's a good person. And I'm just saying he's the only one out of the
00:36:50
three that seems to >> have any >> truly have full remorse and and to truly grip what he did and what he did to
00:36:58
these kids for the rest of their lives. >> Yeah. I just like >> and what we'll see is later one of these
00:37:03
kids actually like went and met him and like talked to him. Yeah. >> Um so James and Fred left fled
00:37:10
California. So Richard turned himself in immediately. >> James and Fred fled California. Fred
00:37:16
went to Vancouver and was caught by the Royal and Canadian Mountain Police >> because they're awesome.
00:37:21
>> Yeah, Royal Canadian Mounted Police. >> I want to be a Royal. >> Uh the police put the police put the
00:37:28
three of them in and James was also caught I think just like somewhere outside of California.
00:37:34
>> Uh they put the three of them in a video lineup and told them to say phrases that
00:37:38
the kids said they used during the kidnapping. >> Oh god. >> And the children were all able to
00:37:42
identify them. >> They were like, "It was that [ __ ] that [ __ ] and that other [ __ ]
00:37:46
>> They literally had them say things like, "Shut up and sit down. Get to the back
00:37:50
of the bus. Listen to what I say." Like all these things that the kids were like, "Yeah, they said all this." And
00:37:55
then they had the kids come in and they all recognize them, which it's like >> more badassery cuz it's like
00:38:01
>> to be able to do that. >> Yeah. Uh all three plead guilty to 27 counts of kidnapping for ransom and
00:38:08
robbery. They were all charged with eight counts of bodily harm as well, but they refused to plead to it because all
00:38:15
of them said they that was going to carry a mandatory life sentence without the possibility of parole. So, none of
00:38:21
them would plead guilty to it, >> even though they were guilty as [ __ ] >> Well, the kids all testified at their
00:38:26
trials, right? >> So, they were like badasses again. February 17th, 1978, all three were
00:38:32
charged with mandatory life sentences without the possibility of parole. Because if you sat here and told me they
00:38:37
got like 25 years, I would lose my noodle. >> Well, unfortunately, >> what >> their lawyers appealed the charges of
00:38:47
bodily harm because they say it said although traumatic, real bodily harm as definition by law did not occur.
00:38:54
>> Eat my shorts. >> So, like, are you [ __ ] kidding me? >> I Oh my god, this is what I just
00:39:00
thought. How do you Oh, defense lawyers. How do like the defense lawyers >> how you defend these guys
00:39:07
>> of these people? How what? >> Oh, they should the >> How do you lay your head on the pillow?
00:39:11
>> The ones that defended these guys should be ashamed of themselves. >> How do you put your head on the pillow?
00:39:16
>> I don't know how you go to sleep at night defending someone like this >> when you know they're straight up
00:39:19
guilty. >> That and it's like bodily harm. I don't give a [ __ ] if physically they're all
00:39:24
like together. They are ruined. >> Your brain is in your body. Well, and as I read a ton about these kids later in
00:39:32
adulthood, >> how do you function? [ __ ] >> They were [ __ ] I mean, most of them
00:39:37
had phobia well into life of like the dark claustia. Yeah. >> They wouldn't let their kids humans
00:39:42
alone. >> They all have kids. A lot of them have kids now and they won't let their kids
00:39:46
anywhere. Like they're like, I am the most overprotective parent ever. And it's like affecting like
00:39:51
>> I'd be like, well, let me tell you about the time I was buried alive, child. >> Yeah. Well, and so these sentences were
00:39:59
um gotten rid of and they were sentenced again to life with the possibility of parole.
00:40:06
>> Okay. I mean, I'm still pissed, but as long as it's life. >> Well, >> did they get let out on [ __ ] parole?
00:40:12
>> Richard, who was the one who turned himself in, the one I said seems to have the most remorse for it, he was granted
00:40:18
parole in June 2012. >> Why? >> 36 years after the crimes. Um, 3 years after that, his brother James was
00:40:27
parrolled. >> Are you [ __ ] kidding me? >> Fred is still in prison. Uh, Fred seems
00:40:32
to be the ring leader. >> Yeah. >> Uh, he was always labeled as the ring leader. And the sheriff actually at the
00:40:38
time said that James and Richard were just two kind of like dumb asses that just like did stupid [ __ ] Fred, they
00:40:44
said, was a true psychopath. Like he was a social. >> I mean, clearly who [ __ ] devises this
00:40:49
plan in their minds? >> He's still a piece of [ __ ] to this day. Like he's in his like 70s or something
00:40:54
and he's still a piece of [ __ ] He breaks all kinds of rules in prison which is why he's not getting parole.
00:40:58
>> Good. Keep breaking those rules, Fred. >> Exactly. Cuz they always say an indicator of how you will be on the
00:41:03
outside is if you can follow rules on the inside and he can't follow rules on the inside. He's still He constantly
00:41:10
gets caught with like porn and cell phones in his cell. >> He's trying to run his businesses from
00:41:16
inside prison and he's like actually doing it. >> What businesses? I guess he has
00:41:20
businesses that are already in his name because he's a little rich [ __ ] and they just got put in his name. So, he's
00:41:27
able to run some businesses from inside. >> What is the point? You're not getting
00:41:31
the [ __ ] money. >> It's the thing. He's still getting like richer in prison because I assume he
00:41:36
thinks he's going to get out at some point cuz he's such a [ __ ] idiot. He's never going to get out.
00:41:41
>> Uh, so why did they do this? >> Why? >> Apparently, James and Fred were in debt
00:41:46
from being dumb asses. there was >> but you have a trust fund >> and but that trust fund wasn't going to
00:41:50
kick in until he was like a certain age. So he couldn't have access to it yet. So
00:41:55
he was like oh instead of working I'll just kidnap a bunch of kids. >> And James and again I said like you know
00:42:04
Richard just seems like he was the younger brother taking along for the ride. Uh James told the parole board in
00:42:10
2015 when he was parrolled, quote, "We needed multiple victims to get multiple millions and we picked children because
00:42:19
children are precious. The state would be willing to pay ransom for them and they don't fight back. They're
00:42:25
vulnerable and they will mind you." >> That is the most [ __ ] up sentence ever said.
00:42:32
>> And it's like I understand that they're saying like they parrolled the two of
00:42:35
them because they showed remorse. They've been going to prison. They're G. And I guess that was the first time in
00:42:41
2015, that was the first time that any of the three of them had given any motive. They had no idea before this why
00:42:48
they did this. And so, but what's bothering me is it's like, okay, so in 2015, this dude's standing before a
00:42:54
parole board being like, this is why we did it, and it's the most [ __ ] up reason ever that children are vulnerable
00:43:00
and precious and will mind you. >> Also, can you let me know? >> Can you parole him? I'd be like, "What?"
00:43:06
Like, I understand you're looking at it like he's telling you the truth and he's
00:43:10
giving you the insight. >> Yeah, but the truth is horrifying. >> But like, how do you know he doesn't
00:43:14
still think this way, >> right? >> Like I like maybe he doesn't. I'm I hope he doesn't. I do believe in
00:43:20
rehabilitation. >> Yeah. >> Not for everybody, but I do believe in rehabilitation. So, God, I'm hoping
00:43:27
these guys did come out of here and be like, I was 24 years old. I was 22. That's not who I am. Like, holy [ __ ]
00:43:35
But like that's scary to me. >> That It's so crazy because I'm thinking of like my friends like I am 23 years
00:43:41
old and I could I >> can you imagine some like them thinking this way? >> No. >> Well, in Larry Park, the one I've
00:43:48
mentioned a few times, the like six-year-old who was like, I fell asleep on my mom.
00:43:52
>> He met all three of these men and he forgave them. >> Wow. You That's the thing, though. It's
00:43:58
almost like you would have to because if you don't, how do you go on with your life? I think that's what it was, too.
00:44:03
He said he was like laying in bed one night and he was like he said he like looked up and was like, "God, help me
00:44:08
forgive them. >> Like, I'm never going to be able to move. >> I need to move past this." And so,
00:44:13
Richard in particular has been cited as being, you know, the one that showed the
00:44:17
most remorse. And there's a picture of Larry and Richard like smiling with each other.
00:44:24
>> So wild. >> It's so bizarre. But you look at it and you're like, "Holy shit." Like,
00:44:28
>> I think it must help too. Like it's it's like meeting a monster. It's like somebody taking their mask off.
00:44:33
>> Exact. Yeah. >> Like it it wasn't real. Like it was real but like >> but like they you you can shrink them
00:44:40
down to size instead of them being this like larger than life thing because again he was they were all like you know
00:44:47
5, six, seven, 10, >> right? >> 12 all that. Like they were little and these men were these big scary monsters
00:44:54
and in their mind they probably always been these big scary monsters. than to meet them as adults and be like, "Oh,
00:45:00
you're just a little [ __ ] and I can look at you." Yeah. It's shrinking them down to like a size you can just flick
00:45:06
them away at. >> All right, keep going. >> So, the children after um after the whole like experience, the children were
00:45:14
granted a trip to Disneyland with >> Oh my god. Amazing. >> I got to go. And uh Ed, the California
00:45:22
School Employees Association in Sacramento presented Ed with the associations association's citation for outstanding
00:45:30
community service. Quote, particularly to 26 precious Chowilla school children. The award was given by the governor and
00:45:38
he got many more heroism awards after that. And then five weeks after the kidnapping, the entire town of Chowilla
00:45:46
created and celebrated Ed Ray and Children's Day. >> Stop. >> With a huge celebration and parade where
00:45:53
Ed and the kids were on floats. >> Stop it. Stop it right now. >> This like video, there's like pictures
00:45:58
of this and everything. It's >> I can't believe I've never heard of this case. >> Me, too. It blew my like Thomas, thank
00:46:03
you for bringing this. >> You would think that this should be a well-known case.
00:46:08
>> Yeah. Um, and then I just found out like the these kids did have tons of issues.
00:46:13
>> Of course they did. >> Uh, a woman named Dr. Lenor Terror, who is a San Francisco psychiatrist,
00:46:20
actually wrote a book called Too Scared to Cry. Um, she wrote about their trauma
00:46:24
in this book. And um, she said, quote, "In 1976, we didn't know much about childhood trauma, much less how to treat
00:46:31
it. Despite their varied backgrounds, every Chowchilla kid I interviewed suffered from PTSD symptoms for years
00:46:38
after the kidnapping and burial alive. >> Oh yeah. >> Uh many of them were well into adulthood
00:46:44
having to sleep with nightlights because the dark was just so much that like they
00:46:48
were just traumatized by it. >> They suffered from constant nightmares, phobias.
00:46:54
>> Um a lot of them had substance abuse and legal issues for a little while, but
00:46:58
most of them turned their [ __ ] around. >> That's good. recognized what was happening and what this was coming from
00:47:04
and they were able to turn it around and their stories are like amazing to read now. But a lot of them would say they
00:47:11
still have these nightmares well where they will be buried alive or that like they're lined up and shot by these guys
00:47:18
and stuff like they just have these awful nightmares. Um, and a lot of the parents of these kids said that when
00:47:24
they first came back, it was years of them screaming in the middle of the night, running in their bedroom in the
00:47:30
middle of the night, like thinking they were being chased. >> For a little while, they didn't know who
00:47:34
the kidnappers were. It took a little while to find those the time between then and when they were caught, they
00:47:39
said, was unbearable. >> It must have felt like years >> cuz they felt like they were going to
00:47:42
come back and get them. Like, >> also, I feel like if I was a parent, I'd be like, "No, you're not sleeping in
00:47:46
your room tonight. Like, you're sleeping in my room forever." I was going to say
00:47:49
I'm pretty sure I would ruin my kids even further cuz I would be like you're never leaving my site.
00:47:53
>> Yeah. No, I'd be like you're never you don't have a room anymore. We're sharing.
00:47:56
>> Yeah. And these poor these poor parents were just like the after this hugely traumatizing experience that they lived
00:48:04
through now they're living through the trauma once again with their kids. It's like holy [ __ ] Um, Ed was hailed as a
00:48:12
hero, like we said, like his whole life he was hailed as a hero. He deserves it.
00:48:15
>> But he was super humble and like would never acknowledge that, right? He knew
00:48:20
it. >> And like he's just adorable. His K his own kids >> said he just loved kids his whole life.
00:48:26
Like they were like he was an amazing father. >> He's amazing grandfather, an amazing
00:48:30
great-grandfather. Stop it. >> Because he had great grandchildren. So, thank goodness Ed got to live to have
00:48:36
great grandchildren. And they said he was just one of those guys who just kids were his world and he felt like he had a
00:48:42
duty to protect kids. >> Yeah. >> And he said about that day, he was like, "All I knew was that I had to protect
00:48:50
these kids. I had to make them feel like everything was going to be okay cuz even
00:48:54
if they were dying that day, he was like, I wanted them to to die thinking that everything was okay."
00:49:01
>> And he was like, "And I wanted to make sure these kids," his main goal, he was
00:49:05
like, "We weren't dying that day. My main goal was to get these kids back to their parents.
00:49:09
>> And he did. >> And he did. >> He moved a manhole cover with two truck batteries on it.
00:49:16
>> And he kept his [ __ ] together throughout this whole thing. And like maintained I
00:49:20
would not be able to sing songs. I would be balling my eyes out in a ball. >> He'd be like, "Don't touch me. I'm
00:49:26
terrified." >> And Ed lived to be 91 years old. >> Oh my god, that's amazing. >> Which it's like, yes. Yes. Like I wanted
00:49:35
that. I was like, "Don't tell me he lived to be like 70. Like, tell me he's got a long life." 91 years old. He
00:49:41
passed away in May 2012. And according to an article in the New York Times, his entire life those children were by his
00:49:49
side. >> Oh my god. Yes. >> Uh they all maintained like best friendships with him. Like they all
00:49:54
talked to him all the time. They visited him. >> They said a lot of those children that
00:49:59
he saved were there by his side when he passed away. >> Oh my god. And they had visited him
00:50:05
consistently through his entire life. Like they were with him throughout it all.
00:50:09
>> I love that. >> Uh family members said Ry collected newspaper clippings about the
00:50:14
kidnapping, but like he wouldn't talk about it. He just like silently have this stuff. And he also bought the
00:50:19
school bus from it for $500 because he said he didn't want it to go to scrap iron because he was like, I feel like
00:50:26
this is an important thing. >> Wow. >> Like we we survived. Like I want this to stay.
00:50:32
>> Wow. Um, >> where did he put it? >> His son said, quote, "He parked it in the barn and he'd go out and start it
00:50:38
every once in a while." Um, he kept it for many years, but then he ended up giving it to an old equipment museum in
00:50:45
Lrand where it's still there for public viewing today. >> If I was him, I wouldn't want to go in
00:50:50
it ever again. I give him a lot of credit. >> Yes, he is. He goes in there and he
00:50:54
starts it just to make sure it's like still working. >> I wouldn't. And the van is there in the
00:50:58
museum today in Lrand. And uh a lot of the kids came back after he passed away. And they wrote messages to him on the
00:51:06
outside of the of the bus. >> Wow. >> And you can look at it online. They all wrote like, "Ed, you'll always be my
00:51:11
hero and stuff like that." Like, >> oh my god. >> I know. It get I'm like choked up.
00:51:15
>> Yeah. I just I got another that came came rocking him through. >> But that's the the tale of the 1976
00:51:23
Chowchilla school bus kidnapping. Thank you, Thomas, for sending that to us. I can't believe I'd never heard of that
00:51:30
case before. >> I'm shocked. >> I'm ruined, but I can't believe I never heard of that case before.
00:51:35
>> Yeah, it's one of those that like you read it and you just think of all these
00:51:38
what these kids went through, but then you're like, thank goodness. >> I mean, from what I read, I didn't see
00:51:43
any like stories of, you know, them really going down into like a dark place forever. Most of them were able to and
00:51:51
and a lot of them say like I want people to know these kids >> grew up to have wonderful lives. We
00:51:57
didn't let these men take that from us. Some of them stumbled a bit obviously >> cuz I couldn't imagine living through
00:52:04
that. I probably would have most of them came out of it and were like, "Fuck that. I'm going to I'm going to forgive
00:52:09
them. I'm gonna move past this. I'm gonna >> just even forgiving them is >> Yeah.
00:52:13
>> wild. >> And as far as um what I read, James and Richard have not been back to prison.
00:52:17
and they've not been in trouble again. >> I hope people heckle them like Lizzie Bordon.
00:52:22
>> Oh yeah, I hope they get heckled with some [ __ ] nursery rhymes and [ __ ] >> Uh Fred, I don't know if he'll ever get
00:52:28
out of prison and I hope he [ __ ] rots in there because he sounds like a [ __ ] [ __ ]
00:52:32
>> He truly does. >> So yeah. >> So pointless. >> So point so pointless. That's the part
00:52:38
that kills me the most. >> Like I'm in debt. >> So pointless. Everybody's in debt. Who's
00:52:42
not in debt? >> Yeah. That's like the whole debt. See, nobody's racing there. >> No one in this room.
00:52:48
>> Nobody. >> No one in this room wastes a hood. >> Nobody in this room racing. >> Am I okay? Wow. Well, thanks for that.
00:52:55
>> You're welcome. >> Can't wait to live my life now again. >> Can't wait to hug my babies.
00:53:01
>> I'm not bringing them to school with you anymore. >> I I I am >> That's why I bring them.
00:53:08
>> I will forever bring my kids to school. >> I renounce that. >> I renounce that.
00:53:12
>> I renounce them going to school. >> I resent that. So yeah, we hope you keep listening
00:53:16
>> and we hope you >> keep it weird, >> but not so weird that you go to the store and you buy some islands and you
00:53:22
put them over your head and you're like, "Wow, I look like these so runny. I bet
00:53:24
I should kidnap some kids because that's really [ __ ] up." And guess what? You already have a trust fund. So why don't
00:53:27
you stop being a [ __ ] douche nozzle and just maybe wait until your trust fund hits and stop [ __ ] kidnapping
00:53:32
people. And also, how [ __ ] up are you to dig the earth into the earth and put people in there and just like go [ __ ]
00:53:37
yourself, Fred, Red, and poop? Those are your names. Bye. Those are your names. Bye.
00:53:46
>> That was a good one.