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hey weirdos I'm Elena and I'm Ash and
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this is
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ma what would it be backwards hold M RB
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a this is
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diom this is Di
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[Music]
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welcome to
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diom
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diom this is uh this is different it's
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we switch places you know it's uh Manic
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Monday instead of Freaky Friday yeah
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it's nuts Monday it's
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nut oh this is uncomfortable we hate it
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um everyone around us has different
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opinions everyone around us hates it my
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daughter would not speak to us she would
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not and I was like you love us as each
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as like who we are I walked downstairs
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and my dog and uh Sydney barked and
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growled at me and ran at me like who are
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you Intruder walking into my house cuz I
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don't let's be honest I you don't look
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like me I don't look like ash um I look
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various
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things I you look like a lot of things I
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do I look like I've caused a lot of
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issues you look you look like you stay
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causing issues I
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REM what' you say I remain causing
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issues I don't know what I look like but
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it's not you you just look like you just
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look chill I mean you're pretty chill
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and with a widows I drew this on draw on
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widow's PE that like didn't come with
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one I said oh wait the missing piece we
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need a Widow's Peak I have a gos shirt a
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GH shirt for Ghost and it's pink so it
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has a little bit as little Sparkle Ash
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there's nothing of alinaa in this get up
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Ash even put bronzer on me of for the
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first time I've never worn bronzer I
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don't have any bronzer on right now and
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I feel naked I didn't overline my lips
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Noe I did you did you actually look
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great with an overlined lip oh my God
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thank you you're welcome um oh we forgot
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to put long nails on Elena we did
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[Music]
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all right we're back we said if you're
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not wearing Nails then you're not doing
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drag and we're doing drag today
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honey although my nails have never
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looked like that thank you and if they
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fall off I go immediately to my boy heli
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nail ninja we're just going to let it go
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today just going to let it go today you
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know sometimes you got to work through
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it all right well it's a take time off
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to remove Nails no I never do now you
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can't do it I only when I take my day
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off it's listener Tales it's brought you
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by you for you from you and all about
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you I probably should have said that but
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I don't remember that that's okay so I I
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can't do it I can't be Ash you know what
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few can who can you know just me yeah
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but we have listener Tales today just
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fixing you are like me today you're
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getting distracted yeah I'm getting to
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see I'm like you have to find something
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to fiddle with forti I will don't you
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worry so should I start um Ash or should
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you Elena go ahead I hate it I hate it
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so start all right start are you going
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to do my hair flip hold
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on no don't
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reveal conceal don't
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reveal don't let them
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[Laughter]
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know okay hold on oh the her orphy is
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hering we do a little one just a little
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one mine is not that dramatic it's more
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dramatic no it's not bring down a little
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bit all right you've never flipped your
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weave off
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so I haven't ever F we I'm crying I'm
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literally crying but that's because I'm
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an
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empath all right this one is oh by the
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way marry Chrysler and happy uh oh wait
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you wouldn't say that I'm mer chras
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happy U happy U there you go happy U is
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what Ela would say I hope your holidays
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have been so gorgeous
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I hope you're all so
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gorgeous that really is a me
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say what I what do I say I feel like I
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would just say [ __ ]
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[Laughter]
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you I'm crying I'm literally crying what
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things do you say that's about it
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covered
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it
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leave hold on I'm I'm St I'm literally
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crying what other things do you say [ __ ]
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you I think you covered it that R the
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gamut wait wait wait Tobias come on the
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show oh that
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too okay okay
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okay oh my God I'm literally crying lit
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have tears in my eyes I do too oh oh
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this is an unhinged one everybody that's
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what it's supposed to be all right so
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like we said hope your holidays were
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gorgeous [ __ ]
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you this one says Sarah thean the boogan
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something like that the ban the Bogan no
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it's boo
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banan it's Ian or I in it's both like
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it's like buen buan buen bout it's lost
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all meeting never had one in the
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beginning going to say I didn't know
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what anyway lost oh not another nail you
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got to go see hel so to start off this
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story I have to give some background on
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my great grandma B she was a very quiet
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person who kept to herself a lot when
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she did talk it was usually to ask a
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question criticize something or talk
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about what she called the boans bans
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well however you spell it that's what
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she called ghosts oh I like that okay
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she had a lot of encounters with ghosts
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in her lifetime most I can't remember
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because I was young and she rarely spoke
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one encounter I do remember was when she
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was in the hospital Hospital a man came
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to her bed and told her it's not your
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time yet now a little background of the
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ghosting question here Sarah I grew up
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in a haunted house there were certain
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rooms that would just creep us out and
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we'd feel something in them same
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relatable yeah my house used to be a
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doctor's office where autopsies were
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performed and is over a hundred years
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old so that may play a part in it that's
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so cool maybe I don't remember this too
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well but when I was very little my
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parents would find me in my room
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seemingly by myself and when asked what
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I was doing I would say I'm playing with
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Sarah she seemed friendly and other
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family members had seen her on occasion
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as well one of the most notable was when
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my mom came home when the house was
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empty and saw a little girl staring out
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the window of one of the rooms that gave
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us the creeps my oldest brother saw her
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and may have used to play with her as
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well but I don't quite remember this
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happened on Christmas when I was very
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little I used to sleep in my brother's
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room for Christmas Eve in this
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particular Christmas Grandma B was to
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sleep on a cot in that room as well as
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well as she was staying over for the
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holiday now I overheard my parents
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talking about Grandma bee staying over
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and they had to use the phrase sleeps
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with her eyes open to indicate that she
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was a light sleeper little me had no
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idea what that meant and in my mind I
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was shocked taking it very literally
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like she's just laying there
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like How could somebody sleep with their
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eyes open so I decided that night
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Christmas night I was going to see for
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myself I stayed up in my brother's top
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bunk quietly waiting for for patiently
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and quietly waiting for Grandma be to
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fall asleep then I snuck down the ladder
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to have a peek I stood over my grandma
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be to see if she really did sleep with
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her eyes open Grandma be my grandma be
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did I say that intense no but it just
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sounds like that Grandma be Grandma be
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her eyes were closed as I was looking
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and then suddenly shot open I absolutely
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booked it out of the room and into the
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bathroom to hide as I was frightened
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being caught standing over her after a
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while hiding in the bathroom I went back
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back to bed and fell asleep the next
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morning she told everyone that she had
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seen Sarah the boan standing over her
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that night Sarah thean Sarah thean I
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kept silent but years after she
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continued to tell that story and I kept
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my secret until she passed away probably
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almost 20 years later I finally told my
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family and everybody was shocked and
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very amused that I was the ghost my
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Grandma had seen that night thean thean
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I love it I like that I like that short
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sweetened to the point that is and
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that's very that's very Christmas that
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is so Christmasy Christmas ghost story
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where it's like I'm the boan it's
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Christmas Tom Foolery I think I feel
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like bgan is a is a thing like that's a
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thing that they do call Spirits I think
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Bans are brutish hairy orc quag
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crossbreed sometimes known as Spider
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Killers you know what I was about to say
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that huh but then I didn't want to come
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off as a know at all you know I know
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usually that's my
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job it is the bans is also a movie it's
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Ian oh but they're like yucky and then
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in the trolls movie there's bogans there
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are bogans that's why I thought you were
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talking about bogans I like the bogans
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the bogans the bogans your turn Ash so
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Ash's turn and it's GNA be listener toow
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can i ph a friend listener TS Christmas
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edition Christmas and it says attached
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you will find a puaa of my Christmas
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edition listener Tales I hope you enjoy
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I will who knows I right it says hello
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my spooky obsessed friends love you and
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your podcast so much I love you thank
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you I don't know if I can say your name
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yet so I'm not going to say it don't say
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it yet all of the congratulations on all
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of the things marriages new and old kids
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cats books giving me nightmares for a
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week Etc thanks for all that the last is
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not an easy thing to do so truly
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congrats how you may ask was it the John
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Wayne gasy episodes no how about a
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spooky Road also no Dennis Raider hell
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no the scariest thing about that ass hat
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is his hair line that's true what then
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that failed pirate Carl [ __ ] pans Ram
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no he was creepy he was crazy yeah can't
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put my finger on why he tripped the
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night terror switch however I did not
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sleep for several nights thank you he
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was a wild one so I get that one no he
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really was that's that's valid he's an
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underrated scary one for sure my name is
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Leanne go ahead and use it see there you
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go today I'm offering you you an example
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of my dad's questionable parenting
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choices in the form of a listener Tale
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Christmas edition let's get after it
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this is the story of when my dad had my
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sister and I get pizza delivered to a
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murder scene first a bit of context of
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how my dad just is he and our mom split
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when my sister and I were very young and
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my dad never remarried so his gauge on
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all things child related can be far from
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standard at times not in an abusive way
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more of a they are clean and Alive
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therefore therefore they are just fine
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kind of way it's kind of like um the guy
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the doad and overboard exactly just like
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you know it's fine our mom moved to the
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Midwest and we spent our lives flying
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between the two dad in California mom in
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Indiana Michigan oh that must have been
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so interesting CU you're seeing like
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totally different areas and flying that
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much it's Christmas Eve 1991 I was 11
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and my sister was about to turned 13 at
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this time in his 20 years with the
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sheriff's department as a patrol officer
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that you buried the lead there you
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really did really did cuz when you said
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to a murder scene get pizza delivered to
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a murder scene I was like did your dad
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murder someone and then call you to
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bring pizza that's explains it this
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explains it now know my dad worked days
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aka the worst six months of his working
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life who works days it is the absolute
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worst thing ever both quotes my dad
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firmly stands by to this day I kind of
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get that I know I get that so it's
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around lunchtime and my older sister and
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I are sitting around the house most
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likely watching absolute trash TV
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because while there was never food in
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the house we had all the cable channels
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we were waiting for our dad to get off
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work to take us to our family's yearly
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Christmas party when the phone rings
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it's our dad and he needs us to do him a
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favor now this is very odd because no
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matter his work shift hours whenever he
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needed something from us he would just
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swing by the house because we lived in
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his Patrol area side note this meant it
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was also okay to leave his two kids home
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alone while working graveyard ship
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because quote if anything happens I will
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be the first to know we live in my
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patrol area I mean and then it says
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questionable
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parents valid valid questionable yeah
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valid all at the same time so Dad is on
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the phone and has a task for us to
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complete and we must follow his
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instructions exactly as they are given
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to us these instructions were as follows
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call the pizza Hutton Lakeside ask for
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the manager explain we are the daughters
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of one of the officers that just hauled
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ass out of the restaurant request for
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delivery to the following address don't
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actually remember it so let's just say 1
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2 3 4 crazy Street in East County San
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Diego stress the fact that whomever
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delivers the pizza is not to pass the
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first Patrol block car on the Block
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under any circumstances that part was
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extremely important I love that in all
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this time he called you guys to
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reiterate that information he could have
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just called the pizza people himself yep
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now at this point my sister and I are
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following these instructions to the very
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letter as this whole situation is
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freaking us out big time everything
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about it was just off and strange an
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hour maybe two go by and dad calls again
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pissed he said he gave us specific
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instructions and they needed to be
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followed and they were not oh now he has
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a quote unquote mess to deal with and
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doesn't need this today now we're not
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only confused but we're also scared our
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dad only yelled at us if we broke
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something while fighting in the house so
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getting chewed out by him was not
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standard operating procedure we continue
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to wait for our dad to get home all well
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trying to figure out what the hell is
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going on several more hours go by
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finally our dad gets home from work and
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apologizes to us saying he's sorry for
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yelling that's good parenting that is
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good parenting that he stopped by the
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Pizza Hut prior to coming home and spoke
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with the manager and that she told him
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we did fall follow his exact
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instructions and that she is very sorry
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her dumbass employee can't simple follow
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simple instructions all right the
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specific instruction of not to go past
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the first patrol car why was this
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important you might ask Well turns out
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the delivery address was a few doors
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down from a murder scene uh so this is
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what went down on this Christmas Eve
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1991 also this is the most early '90s
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parenting ever truly while sitting down
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for lunch A call came out over the radio
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of shots fired man down this is when my
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dad and his fellow Patrol officers on
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duty ran out of the restaurant to get to
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the scene once they arrive they find out
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that two tweaked out people had been
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fighting out front of one of the houses
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on crazy Street at some point person a
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went into his house and left person B
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outside in the yard person B was not
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done fighting he was he was like he said
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I'm ready to go he said I still got
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energy and found something to stand on
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to look through a front window of person
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A's house where he was met with a
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shotgun blast straight to the face oh my
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God holy [ __ ] yikes fell straight back
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into the yard missing most of his head
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and face human debris all over the front
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yard why the upset phone call you may
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ask well the delivery driver did not
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follow instructions walked right past
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the first patrol car under the yellow
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tape and right up to my dad oh no when
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my dad sees him he asks in a very direct
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forceful manner what the [ __ ] do you
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think you're doing get behind the tape
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now stupid delivery kid makes some joke
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about how word is this is a crime scene
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and that someone might get shot might
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have got shot and my dad responded by
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saying yeah that guy right there and
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pointed to the dead dude a few feet away
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I mean your dad is the most '90s don't
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be an idiot don't make a joke of a crime
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scene unless you want to get scarred for
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life you just walked under a yellow tape
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get out of here who do you think
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whatever you see is your own fault at
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this point like where was anybody
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telling you no one's stopping you at
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this point the deliver driver almost
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dropped the pizza started screaming
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throwing up and basically having a
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massive panic attack which is the thing
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our dad quote didn't have time for right
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now in all fairness dumbass should have
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followed directions and what ass hat
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thinks it's okay to cross under yellow
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crime scene tape because quote I want to
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see what's going on yeah my sister sat
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on the couch listening to this
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explanation of things completely
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dumbfounded we could not believe that
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our dad a law enforcement officer had
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his children get pizza delivered to a
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crime scene as if this is a 100% normal
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thing to do I have no words other than
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Highly Questionable parenting keep it
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weird my dudes but not so weird you
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still want lunch while working a murder
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scene and therefore have your kids get
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you delivery P.S it was pizza for all
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the law enforcement officers on scene
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not just our dad they're a whole group
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of weirdos that I've known my whole
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entire life Lord help
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us what a '90s t that was an amazing
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'90s tale I've never heard of a more
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'90s father that was great and I love
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your dad oh man that's great I bet your
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dad is awesome yeah def I bet he like
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got as he got older he got awesome yeah
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definitely all right my next one is
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listener tale holiday Hanukkah ghost
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it's a miracle just kidding it's a puaa
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a miracle a miracle truly a miracle I
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know puas are a miracle they are all
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right so it says hi lovely ladies I
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initially sent this back in April when I
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was new tier show and had just heard
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last year's holiday listener tale
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episodes uh listener Tales episode since
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then I have become so much older and
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wiser and I'm therefore resending this
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as a double spaced puao at um and at the
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appropriate time of year and I'm not
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going to apologize for the fact that
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it's really long never see I've learned
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so much from you you have when you said
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you hadn't heard many Hanukkah related
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ghost stories I knew I had to chime in
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by the way said this is my time to shine
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my time baby by the way hi my name is
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Emma and you can use it because it would
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be so thrilling to hear it coming from
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your beautiful voices is that creepy no
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Emma Emma Emma Emma Emma Emma Emma Emma
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Emma Emma Emma
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first I have to say that since April I
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have listened to every episode and have
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become a hardcore follower thank you you
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it's so nice to find such a badass
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couple or yeah it's so nice to find such
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a badass couple of women in this very
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malale dominated genre yes thank you I
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mean oh my God thanks yes I especially
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appreciate your sisterly relationship
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it's really at its peak today oh no it's
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really on on display it's on display
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every day I and it reminds me of my own
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relationship with my younger brother as
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a historian I really value all the
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research you do to bring your stories
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into life and Dave I was going to say
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shout out to Dave to Dave as a histo oh
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I was going to read the same thing as a
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histori yeah just one more time I have
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to give a special shout out to the Lake
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shaie Amusement Park episode I love that
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episode that was such a good episode
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whoa I haven't been that terrified since
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well my own ghostly experiences which I
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am going to share with you right now
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hell yeah I am playing with my hair more
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than you ever would and I can't stop
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should I be playing with mine obviously
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okay uh okay starting at the beginning I
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grew up in a oh Queen an Victorian in
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San Francisco Wake Up San Francisco when
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my parents bought the house in the early
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'90s I was eight my sister was four and
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my brother had just been born from the
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beginning my parents knew something was
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up the realtor told them that the
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novelist who lived up the street none
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other than Danielle Steel whoa shut up
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had just sent a ghost Hunter /p
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Paranormal Investigator to every house
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on our street for research for her new
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book about ghosts that is wild I wonder
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which book in particular it was I don't
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know but what what a like what a life to
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Le what a flex that is a flex they just
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knocking on doors being like ah so M
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steel down the road sent us to research
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your house she'd like to know if your
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house is haunted damn that's great the
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realtor was thrilled to inform my
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parents that ghost had in fact been
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found in their new house y one of the
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defining features of my parents house is
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that it has a super long creepy hallway
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love it my mom and my brother's Nursery
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were on the opposite end of the long
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hallway for my parents room oh no sorry
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my room and My Brother's Nursery were on
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the opposite end um of the long hallway
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from my parents' room thanks Mom and Dad
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and we were quick to discover that was
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the more haunted end of the house thanks
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thanks again Yik many of the standards
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uh occurred in those early days you know
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lights flickering doors opening Elena I
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know you can relate to all of the times
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as a teenager I literally said out loud
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okay ghost I need to sleep now please
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stop opening my door I literally have
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said that before I was like I really got
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to get sleep after having to get up
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three times yep as a child the sound of
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someone walking up and down the creaky
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hallway was unmistakable I would lie in
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bed and listen to listen to the sound of
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someone slowly approaching my room from
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the far end of the house yeah that's
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like when cuz I moved into Elena's room
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after she moved out and you could hear
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the footsteps all night but going up the
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stairs so you would have this moment
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where you were like is it burglar or is
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it the ghost to be killed you just never
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know no she was always the ghost yeah
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and it sounded like work boots yeah it
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did like heavy work boots mhm some days
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my mom sister and I would remark about
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how the previous night had been
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particularly noisy to the effect of did
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you hear the hallway last night oh yeah
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you did too did you hear the hallway was
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bumping last night that hallway went
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crazy my dad was always the unbeliever
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don't worry we'll Circle back on that
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one the most frightening thing I
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remember happening constantly as a young
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child though was when I was when I would
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hear people putting dishes away in the
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kitchen oo about halfway down the
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hallway there was a banister to the
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staircase that used to be the maid
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staircase or the back stairs to the
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kitchen I remember telling myself my
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parents must be unloading the dishwasher
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even though it was late I would creep
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out of my room and peer over the
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banister down into the kitchen to see
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all the lights off oh no nope no parents
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just oh and hearing the clanging of
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dishes while the lights are pitch black
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yeah that's horrifying no makes me think
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of the six sense yes oh that scene oh so
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freaky just some ghost dinner parties
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yeah when I went to college my little
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brother took over my bedroom it's
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hilarious cuz I was just saying when you
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literally the same thing many years
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later he was already when he was already
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in college himself I mentioned the
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putting away the dishes noises his face
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went completely pale he said what I
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heard that all the time too I can't
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believe you never mentioned that to me
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you guys got to talk more I know
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seriously that was some serious
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confirmation that it wasn't just the
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fancies of Danielle Steel haunting me as
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a child no I'm sure you're dying to hear
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about the Hanukkah part by now let's go
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as you have mentioned Elena our ghosts
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also like to join the party we saw way
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more activity during and after big
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parties and of course Renovations oh yes
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you probably want to know what made my
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dad a Believer I do I do I really do
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yeah we do it wasn't the Footsteps in
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the hallway or my door opening or the
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dishes or the secret door in the wall of
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the basement excuse me bury the lead
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there sister girl what then in
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parenthesis yep or finding whiskey
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bottles and newspapers from the early
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1900s in the rafters during guess what
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Renovations my God that must have been
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so cool so cool no it wasn't those
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things it was the Hanukkah party that
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went on after we all went to bed it was
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a Han party after you went to bed I kind
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of love that I love it well the end of
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the hallway where my bedroom was is
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still to this day for sure a hot spot
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the dining room is the place that as
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children we always avoided and held our
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breath whenever we had to switch on or
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off the lights huh it had the most
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haunted look as it had all the original
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mahogany wall paneling from the 19th
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century oh my God I just felt like more
00:24:07
were Rose in that moment oh I love that
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I need to see it please send a picture I
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want to see it's the place also with the
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most ghostly Vibes love it it is obv
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where my parents hosted company so one
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Hanukkah night I came into the city with
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some friends when I was in college at
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Berkeley and my mom made lot
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keys for a group of about 10 to 15
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people including some family friends
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some I have a burp I knew it was coming
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so sorry I mean that's very me it's us
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that's very it's us something to know
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about my mom is that she's legally blind
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so a she would deaf not have been
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putting dishes away in the dark at any
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point in my childhood and B she has a
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very unique way unique way of checking
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to make sure all the candles are out at
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the end of the night my parents are very
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fire cautious ours too this is very
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weird we weren't allowed to have candles
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like uh my mom your grand my grandmother
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yeah they would not let us ever she she
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yeah so when we would all go up to bed
00:25:04
if the manura was not done burning yet
00:25:06
you don't blow out those candles nuh-uh
00:25:08
oh yeah my parents would put it in the
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sink to finish burning without you know
00:25:11
burning the house down oh that's pretty
00:25:13
smart anyone else do this fellow Jews
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cuz that would scare me yeah leaving a
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candle of any kind lit yeah I never even
00:25:20
thought of that Debbie was saying that
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um her and Pat her husband uh used to
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bet on which candle would go out first
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so they would they wouldn't go to bed at
00:25:29
all they just wait for the candles to
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burn out that makes sense I get that I
00:25:32
know that's smart though the sink trick
00:25:34
yeah the sink trick is very smart pretty
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safe cuz if it falls it's in the sink
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like the sink's not going to light on
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fire I mean to my knowledge you're like
00:25:42
n water's right there yeah uh anyway
00:25:44
point being my parents were very fire
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conscious and even after my dad checked
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my mom would go around feeling the Wicks
00:25:50
of the candles on the table with her
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fingers to make sure they were not only
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out but not even hot anymore that is
00:25:56
some badass mom and right there she's
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like I'm just going to I'm just going to
00:26:00
Palm the flame if there is one Palm the
00:26:03
flame damn does she have fingertips
00:26:06
anymore seriously so this night after
00:26:08
celebrating the miracle of fried food
00:26:10
when my friends and I had gone back to
00:26:12
college and my parents had long gone to
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bed my dad you know the unbeliever was
00:26:16
woken up around 2 or 3 by a tapping on
00:26:18
the front door no also some fun news our
00:26:21
front door is 500 lb of 10t tall cast
00:26:24
iron and glass I need photos of this
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house seriously that need G photos
00:26:30
photos photos I need them I need
00:26:33
pictures I love it my dad described the
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noise as somebody tapping a fingernail
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on the glass door repeatedly one of
00:26:38
these one of these fingernail you say
00:26:42
one of these got stuck to me that was
00:26:43
weird it's literally just a post it but
00:26:45
I didn't like it anyway nail I know it
00:26:47
felt it gave that don't shatter the
00:26:49
illusion it gave that
00:26:50
Vibe uh um hi bye nope yeah that's how I
00:26:54
feel he went down the front stairs and
00:26:56
heard it again then whipped his head
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around as he heard my mom's cell phone
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charging in the corner suddenly power
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off o as he turned his head to the open
00:27:03
door of the living room there was one
00:27:05
candle in the middle of the dining room
00:27:06
table still lit and Illuminating the
00:27:08
ghost Tonica dinner party I'm obsessed
00:27:11
guess what my dad believes now around
00:27:13
the same time he was scanning photos for
00:27:15
my Grandma's birthday slide show yes
00:27:17
when scanning was a thing we did yeah
00:27:20
it's so funny cuz I thought you meant
00:27:21
like looking oh my God like scanning a
00:27:23
room uh and claims that a picture showed
00:27:26
up on the screen that was not on the
00:27:27
scanner bed in fact no one had ever seen
00:27:30
it before it was a picture of the dining
00:27:32
room with someone we don't know sitting
00:27:34
in the chairs from a time before we
00:27:35
owned the house shut the [ __ ] up I love
00:27:39
that that is terrifying I love that love
00:27:43
I love that that was a literal ghost
00:27:45
Hanukkah party in the middle of the
00:27:47
night yes like they were literally like
00:27:48
hey hey just having a little party just
00:27:51
show up that's incredible that's amazing
00:27:53
now between then and my uh latest story
00:27:55
I met my husband while living in
00:27:57
Albuquerque New Mexico we moved in
00:27:59
together into a uh rented gorgeous
00:28:01
octagonal is that how you say octagonal
00:28:03
OCT octagonal victorium because that's
00:28:06
something you can do as a graduate
00:28:07
student in Albuquerque crazy cheap rent
00:28:10
we thought it was so cool that they were
00:28:11
always shooting breaking bad right
00:28:13
across the street am I dating myself yes
00:28:15
I am hell yeah yes I'm 35 hi Elena hi
00:28:20
what's up you're a I mean I'm
00:28:23
so I'm so young she's so
00:28:26
old shut up
00:28:29
oh excuse me [ __ ] you I told my then
00:28:32
boyfriend now husband about my
00:28:34
experiences growing up in a haunted
00:28:35
house and he was intrigued but like many
00:28:37
boyfriends before thought it was more of
00:28:39
a funny story than a scary one yeah he
00:28:41
had never had any scary scary Ghost
00:28:44
Encounters yet uhoh you were about to
00:28:46
bring it to him literally the first
00:28:49
night we slept in the bedroom we were
00:28:50
falling asleep when we were jolted out
00:28:52
of bed to a truly horrifying sound it
00:28:54
was like the walls started cracking all
00:28:56
around us but like in a clockwise circle
00:28:59
like this cracking would sweep around
00:29:01
the room in a circle from one side to
00:29:02
the other enveloping Us in the bed what
00:29:05
the [ __ ] never figured out what that was
00:29:08
I love I'm obsessed that anticlimactic
00:29:12
isn't even the right word it's just like
00:29:14
nonchalant is f i love just never
00:29:16
figured out what that was no chalant to
00:29:18
be found we're going to move on from
00:29:19
that wow we would frequently see Shadows
00:29:22
moving in the dining room which was a
00:29:23
separate room with a swinging door on
00:29:25
each end and each of those little pass
00:29:27
through Windows into the middle of the
00:29:28
kitchen while standing in the kitchen we
00:29:30
would catch the shadows out of the
00:29:31
corner of our eye through the little
00:29:32
window I think I remember you talking
00:29:34
about dining rooms in in particular in
00:29:37
one spooky episode probably probably
00:29:39
yeah I'm sure at some point the kitchen
00:29:41
was the room where things would
00:29:42
literally move we would put our phones
00:29:44
down in there then it would be gone we'd
00:29:46
search the house for 20 minutes and then
00:29:47
come back to find it in the same place
00:29:49
where we left it that's [ __ ] up things
00:29:51
would move and fall on the floor when we
00:29:53
were sitting in the living room with our
00:29:54
backs turned to the kitchen once I
00:29:56
actually saw a plastic bag come up and
00:29:58
out of a drawer and fall onto the flooor
00:30:00
and thought cool that's what those
00:30:01
noises are wow again not a chalant to be
00:30:05
found no or actually the most shalant to
00:30:07
be found really but the worst was when
00:30:10
the uh sorry was but the worst was the
00:30:12
shared hallucinations SL dreams my
00:30:15
husband and I would have O Let's get
00:30:17
into it love a shared hallucination SL
00:30:20
dream we both have you ever had one with
00:30:22
some no but I I love the idea of them
00:30:24
it's a great idea they're awesome we
00:30:26
would both frequently wake up to Dark
00:30:28
Shadow with a Sinister presentence
00:30:29
standing in the corner of our bedroom
00:30:31
that sounds like it sucks I don't like
00:30:34
it we would both also see some sort of
00:30:36
spitting plate above our heads in bed
00:30:39
what after years of living in my parents
00:30:41
house I never felt a Sinister present
00:30:43
from those ghosties I was comforted by
00:30:45
the movie The Others thinking that ghost
00:30:47
didn't know that they were haunting us a
00:30:49
that's kind of how I feel about M Papa's
00:30:51
house yeah they're not trying to bum you
00:30:52
out I always just think they lived here
00:30:53
first also that's the garage if you hear
00:30:55
it yeah they're just going about their
00:30:57
business you know yeah it's like res um
00:30:59
I was going to say residential haunting
00:31:01
I thought you were going to say Resident
00:31:02
Evil and I was like what h no
00:31:05
interesting I was going to I meant to
00:31:07
say residual hauntings but I said
00:31:10
residential that makes more sense you
00:31:12
just thought Resident Evil you know that
00:31:14
kind of was an aism you all right you're
00:31:18
pretty it's seeping into my it's the
00:31:21
blond It's the blonde we actually
00:31:23
bleached Elena's Hair you my real hair
00:31:25
oh my God one time we did that's no you
00:31:28
guys saw when I did my head flip it
00:31:29
almost went
00:31:31
FL all right all right all right but
00:31:34
that Albuquerque bedroom was dark my
00:31:37
husband shared the feeling we could not
00:31:38
wait to get out of there so by the time
00:31:41
we were staying at my parents house when
00:31:43
I was pregnant with my son in 2019
00:31:45
congrats my husband had no longer
00:31:47
thought the ghosts were some cool
00:31:48
backstory he had his own haunting
00:31:50
experiences and while he never had heard
00:31:53
anything too out of the ordinary in my
00:31:54
parents house he believed my stories
00:31:56
it's good man right there it is he also
00:31:59
said he never felt anything Sinister
00:32:01
like he did in Albuquerque sin until I
00:32:04
was pregnant Sinister Vibe uh oh then it
00:32:06
became sinister sinister BBY B literally
00:32:08
Sinister BBY something changed at that
00:32:11
point I had started sleeping with noise
00:32:12
cancelling headphones on because hi
00:32:14
pregnancy aka the time when you don't
00:32:16
sleep before you have a baby and then
00:32:17
you don't sleep some more oh it's a
00:32:19
beautiful time the first time I slept at
00:32:21
my parents house when I was pregnant I
00:32:23
was upstairs on the third floor which
00:32:24
used to be the maid's quarters in the
00:32:26
Victorian days I started staying in
00:32:28
there when I was in town when my brother
00:32:29
took over my old room as it tends to be
00:32:31
less spooky up there it's interesting
00:32:33
that the third floor is less less spooky
00:32:35
I know you would think it would be the
00:32:36
most spooky yeah right I feel like the
00:32:38
and the oh no oh girl I feel like the
00:32:40
extr
00:32:42
manicure wreck the house are always the
00:32:44
spookiest yeah the bottom and the top
00:32:47
yes things in the middle are usually
00:32:49
just what they are yeah you know just
00:32:51
like the meat of the H the meat the meat
00:32:53
of the sand the bread the bread is the
00:32:55
scariest yeah the the ha hogi that's
00:32:57
that's the meat in the
00:32:59
middle that your brain just did some
00:33:01
[ __ ] that was I liked that the haunted
00:33:05
hogy yeah TM we're putting it on a shirt
00:33:08
someday yeah someday uh anyway La I
00:33:13
guess the ghost weren't that thrilled
00:33:14
with that development because I woke up
00:33:15
in the middle of the night to the
00:33:17
feeling of someone's hands squeezing my
00:33:19
knee nope I hate that I told myself it
00:33:22
was sleep paralysis and didn't move for
00:33:24
a few minutes though my thought was oh
00:33:26
[ __ ] do ghost like babies something oh
00:33:28
no when I came back 5 months later for
00:33:31
my baby shower my husband was with me
00:33:32
and I was much more pregnant I could not
00:33:34
get comfortable in the full-size bed
00:33:36
with him so I woke him up and made him
00:33:38
relocate to my old bedroom where my mom
00:33:40
and dad had put a king bed temporarily
00:33:42
because of yep Renovations oh my God
00:33:44
sleeping pregnant not sleeping pregnant
00:33:46
is such an experience that must be a lot
00:33:49
the more pregnant you get the more
00:33:50
you're just like get the [ __ ] away from
00:33:52
me everybody it's kind of like it's just
00:33:54
getting you ready when for when the baby
00:33:56
comes cuz then you're never going to
00:33:57
sleep K makes you real ready yeah it's
00:33:59
it's like conditioning It is Well I put
00:34:02
my headphones on and told myself I was
00:34:03
too prous for this [ __ ] you were but 5
00:34:05
minutes later my husband woke me up take
00:34:07
off your headphones uh that feeling in
00:34:09
my stomach I knew what was going on
00:34:11
what' you hear I asked him oh no he said
00:34:14
my dad must be walking up and down the
00:34:15
hallway never mind I didn't really want
00:34:17
to move so Prager so I said okay 5
00:34:20
minutes later okay that's it he shook me
00:34:22
awake I heard the shuffling sound in the
00:34:24
hallway and I could deal with it until I
00:34:26
heard it come into the room I don't love
00:34:28
that the shuffling steps came down the
00:34:30
hall and straight into the room to the
00:34:31
foot of our bed despite the fact that
00:34:34
the bedroom door was still closed no I
00:34:36
knew exactly the sound he was talking
00:34:38
about all right we're going back
00:34:39
upstairs I said I know exactly what
00:34:40
you're talking about and it's never and
00:34:42
it's never my dad no matter how many
00:34:44
times I told myself that it was growing
00:34:46
up it's just never my dad I love that
00:34:48
she's just telling her husband that
00:34:49
she's like I'm going to be real I'm
00:34:50
going to be frank I'm going to be Fran
00:34:51
this with you right now that's not Dad
00:34:53
it's never my dad it's never going to be
00:34:55
my dad never was my dad it's just I love
00:34:57
it's just just never my dad just never
00:34:59
my
00:35:00
dad well I hope you enjoyed my spooky
00:35:03
hkah Tales thanks so much and keep it
00:35:05
weird but not so weird that you move
00:35:06
from one haunted house to another one in
00:35:08
New Mexico because they film Breaking
00:35:09
Bad across the street you know where the
00:35:11
scenes where Walter meets Lydia at the
00:35:12
cafe and then you move out because
00:35:14
there's um somebody who's not doing well
00:35:16
living in the backyard stalking you yep
00:35:18
skipped that part and also a shadowy
00:35:20
presence in your bedroom and things move
00:35:22
themselves in the kitchen with the
00:35:24
little pass through window to the
00:35:25
haunted dining room and then get
00:35:27
pregnant and have GH uh be way too into
00:35:29
your unborn child okay this took me 3
00:35:31
hours to Rite hope you like it bye Emma
00:35:33
if you can't tell I'm an Elena Fain girl
00:35:35
oh oh Emma I love you PS since writing
00:35:37
this to you I was contacted by an old
00:35:39
friend from middle school who told me
00:35:41
she has Vivid memories of hiding in the
00:35:43
bathroom because she was too afraid to
00:35:44
cross the Haunted Hallway to get back to
00:35:46
my bedroom since she could sense that
00:35:48
there was something lurking out there
00:35:49
more confirmation PPS uh also since
00:35:52
writing this I bought a new house
00:35:54
congratulations yay I researched the
00:35:56
owners for fun there was one owner who
00:35:58
was an Irish immigrant and a cop who
00:35:59
died in a shootout in the 1940s and he
00:36:02
lived there the longest I definitely
00:36:04
stood alone in the living room feeling
00:36:05
The Vibes and shamelessly asked the real
00:36:07
estate agent if they knew of any
00:36:09
hauntings before we signed like a long
00:36:11
time alone feeling The Vibes and I said
00:36:14
aloud are you there Sergeant necessary
00:36:16
and happy to report only Good Vibes I
00:36:19
love picturing you in the middle of your
00:36:21
living I'm just going are you there
00:36:23
Sergeant it's me Margaret it's me it's
00:36:25
me Emma Good Vibes though I like the
00:36:28
Good Vibes I love that a lot that was a
00:36:30
great story I love it ml you rule and
00:36:33
that was amazing I'm trying to see I'm
00:36:36
going to I'm going to move past
00:36:37
Christmas to another holiday what's the
00:36:40
holiday just because this one involves a
00:36:42
foot so I feel like it's necessary
00:36:45
necessary question mark uh listener tals
00:36:48
that time we found a foot on the 4th of
00:36:50
July oh okay I mean how can I not go to
00:36:53
that one all right you know well let's
00:36:55
go to this hey weirdos I'm Nicole and
00:36:58
yes you can use my name shout out to my
00:37:00
cousin Kayla who is a fellow listener
00:37:02
and also on the weirdest river trip of
00:37:04
our lifetime I mean I really hope it
00:37:06
doesn't get any weirder than this okay
00:37:08
first a little background every year my
00:37:10
family floats the river near my
00:37:12
grandparents house for the 4th of July
00:37:14
that's fun for those of you who aren't
00:37:16
from the Midwest me floating the river
00:37:19
usually involves put putting in Upstream
00:37:22
on a local River with some type of
00:37:24
flotation device or small boat you get
00:37:27
to enjoy the beautiful scenery typically
00:37:28
hot weather and at least for my f
00:37:30
friends and family partying your way
00:37:32
Downstream until you reach your
00:37:34
predetermined destination all right
00:37:36
don't worry we always designate a driver
00:37:37
or have a pickup ready don't drive and
00:37:39
drink and drive my friends yeah great
00:37:41
great are great great great great don't
00:37:45
our family usually uses a combination of
00:37:48
canoes tied together inflatable tubes
00:37:50
and kayaks oh that sounds fun that does
00:37:52
sound fun this particular trip for
00:37:53
normal paddlers would be 3 to 4 hours
00:37:56
with short breaks that sounds like a lot
00:37:58
that my arms hurt right now from that I
00:38:02
you would hate this yeah you would too
00:38:05
you would hate this for sure we would
00:38:06
hate this we would I think you would
00:38:07
hate I would hate this as
00:38:09
well as Ash yeah yeah you would hate
00:38:12
that so much yeah okay that's what I
00:38:14
thought I would like the I would like
00:38:17
the partying part and the floating part
00:38:19
earlier in my life I think these days I
00:38:22
think I'd be like I'm too tired could
00:38:23
you be just like a floater and everyone
00:38:26
else does no cuz I can't I couldn't
00:38:28
float for like 3 to 4 hours I feel like
00:38:30
I would Panic me too uh however when 90%
00:38:33
of the adults are highly intoxicated and
00:38:35
you're stopping at every Sandbar for PE
00:38:36
breaks we usually expect six to seven
00:38:39
hour trip no no we had roughly 20 people
00:38:42
on this year's trip with kids seven kids
00:38:44
under eight years old one to two coolers
00:38:46
in each canoe stereo hooked up and old
00:38:49
rock gems blasting this is my happy
00:38:51
place most of my favorite summer
00:38:53
memories have been made in this section
00:38:55
of the we're going to Google it we're
00:38:56
going to Google I don't want to ruin
00:38:58
your your River yeah hold up hold up
00:39:01
we're going to have Google say it to you
00:39:03
Mak nope Mak Maka that's fine to say
00:39:06
makoka so most of my favorite summer
00:39:09
memories have been made in this section
00:39:11
of the makoka river Mak makok quite
00:39:14
honestly this included and I feel this
00:39:16
is a safe space for me to say that given
00:39:18
what happens next yeah this is always a
00:39:20
safe space it is so back to the trip in
00:39:22
question about 45 minutes into our
00:39:24
7-hour float we all have a solid buzz on
00:39:26
when my cousin floating ahead of the
00:39:28
group in his kayak notices a boot
00:39:30
floating just beneath the surface of the
00:39:32
water the water is Muddy but pretty
00:39:33
clear this time of year he tells my
00:39:35
brother who's slightly closer to what he
00:39:37
assumes is just a stuck boot thinking he
00:39:39
had just found a random shoe my brother
00:39:41
grabs the boot out of the water and I
00:39:43
[ __ ] you not there is an entire tibia
00:39:47
fibula covered in a dirty Sandy sock
00:39:50
sticking straight out of the tide
00:39:55
boot what hello blink blink hey perfect
00:40:00
job thank you
00:40:03
back what what EXC wait what would you
00:40:06
would say what the
00:40:08
[ __ ] that's what you would
00:40:11
say I love falling up with that's what
00:40:15
you you were like nailed it you did you
00:40:18
nailed it nailed
00:40:20
ited nailed it nailed it so um oh my God
00:40:26
that's oh my my God that's crazy what
00:40:29
the [ __ ] um shocked at the sight of a
00:40:32
human [ __ ] leg my brother dropped the
00:40:34
boot back he said not today honestly not
00:40:37
today we floating we floating the two
00:40:41
guys stared at each other for a minute
00:40:43
and then yelled for our parents who were
00:40:44
in a group of canoes tied together
00:40:46
nearby and all the commotion the music
00:40:48
gets turned down they were like turned
00:40:50
down the like we need to see and my mom
00:40:52
yells to me that they found a foot hey
00:40:56
they found a foot we found a foot
00:40:59
imagine you got a buzz on in somebody
00:41:01
yells to you that they found a
00:41:03
foot how do you move past that you sober
00:41:07
up real quick yeah that's a sobering
00:41:09
moment now at this point in time I was
00:41:12
in my own world about 20 ft behind the
00:41:14
group talking with my friend when I
00:41:15
finally figured out what she was saying
00:41:17
I was positive this was just my family
00:41:19
playing a joke on me I would think so
00:41:21
too me too of course I paddled over with
00:41:24
my kayak to see what was going on
00:41:26
because even if it was a joke I needed
00:41:27
to see what they were talking about as
00:41:29
I'm paddling Downstream I spot this
00:41:31
dirty boot floating along the near the
00:41:33
canoes after making sure my 5-year-old
00:41:35
wasn't an eyesight oh my God I pulled
00:41:37
the boot out of the water and sure
00:41:39
enough there is a [ __ ] human leg
00:41:41
hanging out of this boot that the
00:41:43
thought of that image is just too much I
00:41:47
dropped it back in the water because
00:41:48
like what do you do I don't know now the
00:41:50
group is yelling at me half saying to
00:41:52
leave it and the other half saying to
00:41:54
call 911 I look over at my mom who nods
00:41:56
at me as if to say do it want mom being
00:42:01
my morbid self thanks ladies you bet I
00:42:03
pull the boot back out of the water and
00:42:05
throw it on my
00:42:07
kayak stop it I'm proud of you so here I
00:42:10
am 50 minutes into a 7-hour float with a
00:42:13
right lower leg on my kayak oh my God no
00:42:17
one had cell service and to be honest we
00:42:19
were a little worried the DNR wouldn't
00:42:20
be cool with our general lack of life
00:42:22
jackets and planned alcohol consumption
00:42:25
it's planned and you have a drive there
00:42:27
you go after talking with my uncle who
00:42:29
is an EMT and my mom a nurse we decided
00:42:32
I would paddle back Upstream to the
00:42:33
nearby Sandbar where we could easily
00:42:35
reach later via gravel road again I
00:42:38
already have a buzz on and my ass how to
00:42:40
now how to now paddle Upstream oh no I'm
00:42:43
not an athletic girl so this took a bit
00:42:45
once I reached the beach I set the foot
00:42:47
down in a clearly visible place I could
00:42:49
later identify for the police the whole
00:42:51
time I'm paddling all I could all I
00:42:53
could think was oh my God I can't wait
00:42:55
to tell l I'm obsessed because even
00:42:59
though we're not best friends in real
00:43:00
life we are in my head life as morbid of
00:43:04
a discovery we made our family still
00:43:05
enjoyed a full day on the river and had
00:43:07
a blast you guys are Reckless and I love
00:43:09
it I love it I would be so worried that
00:43:11
the rest of the mans was somewhere under
00:43:13
show us yeah after we got off the river
00:43:15
at 600 p.m. my uncle called in our
00:43:17
Discovery we sobered up a bit and went
00:43:19
down to the scene to give our statements
00:43:20
to the sheriff's deputies picture a
00:43:22
fairly intoxicated sunburnt mother of
00:43:24
two with a morbid Fascination for all
00:43:27
all things True Crime trying to set the
00:43:29
scene for the deputy like I'm on I'm
00:43:31
some type of professional who doesn't
00:43:33
just listen to a lot of podcasts and
00:43:34
watch too many murder documentaries this
00:43:37
is actually wild this is a this is a
00:43:39
story and I love it I would pay money to
00:43:41
watch that body cam footage I would too
00:43:44
the next morning my brother went out out
00:43:46
to the scene and showed investigators
00:43:47
specifically where we had pulled out the
00:43:49
boot while he was there they dug into
00:43:51
the sand and found pieces of denim a few
00:43:54
weeks later we found out they excavated
00:43:56
the area and did recover a body so he
00:43:58
was floating with you he was floating
00:44:00
with you my my fear confirmed yes after
00:44:03
a few months they confirmed the body was
00:44:05
that of a missing man from the area who
00:44:07
was last seen in November 2020 damn even
00:44:10
though this whole experience was wild
00:44:11
and a story I will tell around the
00:44:13
bonfire for years to come it was not
00:44:15
lost on any of us the impact our
00:44:17
discovery made I only hope we brought
00:44:19
this Man's family a little Justice at
00:44:21
this point there's never been yeah a
00:44:23
little piece sorry at this point there
00:44:25
has never been an official C of death
00:44:27
release that I know of and although
00:44:29
there's lots of rumors for what may have
00:44:30
happened out of respect for his this
00:44:32
Man's family I won't speculate good on
00:44:35
you sometime when I'm not running on
00:44:37
fumes I will send in my best ghosty
00:44:38
stories please do please do turns out
00:44:40
I'm fa fairly sensitive and Spirits good
00:44:42
and bad I almost said fairly turns out
00:44:45
I'm fairly sensitive that's so me that's
00:44:47
very you um in spirits good and bad
00:44:50
really dig my vibes both my children are
00:44:52
similar and keeping our home cleared and
00:44:54
cleansed in a is a constant battle about
00:44:56
2 years ago I saw several mediums and
00:44:58
ended up needing to perform a ritual to
00:45:00
remove a negative attachment from a past
00:45:02
life oh send over that information yeah
00:45:04
things have gotten much easier since
00:45:06
then and my life has transformed into
00:45:08
something truly beautiful that I didn't
00:45:09
know was possible oh that just made my
00:45:12
heart love this so full love you both
00:45:14
and look forward to seeing a new episode
00:45:16
every time they pop up thank you for all
00:45:17
the time and energy you put in the
00:45:19
podcast it has gotten me through many
00:45:21
long work days and house cleaning days
00:45:22
stay weird weirdos I feel like I could
00:45:25
like feel her energy through the
00:45:28
and that I love you you have great
00:45:30
energy Nicole that was great energy yeah
00:45:32
it filled me with happiness I loved that
00:45:34
is this you on the river in your Gmail
00:45:36
thing is it I think oh no that's a pool
00:45:38
oh okay but I still love you floating in
00:45:40
a pool wow all right so listener Tales a
00:45:44
light-hearted sign from the afterlife
00:45:46
not after Life After Life Christmas Tale
00:45:49
Life After
00:45:51
Life do you believe in life after
00:45:55
life do
00:45:58
I need to just move it into a thing I
00:46:00
can see we'll just keep I believe that
00:46:04
Li is in your hair I really don't think
00:46:08
you're strong enough oh Li I'm a
00:46:12
hairdresser so I know about
00:46:16
lice I actually there was a lice um like
00:46:21
there was a lice scare out of my salon
00:46:23
once and I thought that we were going to
00:46:25
get to leave but we couldn't you
00:46:26
couldn't you had to stay that was
00:46:27
unfortunate fight through the life
00:46:29
anyways listener tal is a lighthearted
00:46:31
sign from the afterlife Christmas Tale
00:46:33
about life hey weirdos I'm Katie you can
00:46:36
use my real name Katie Katie Katie I am
00:46:39
typing on my phone and can't figure out
00:46:40
how to type how to double space this
00:46:42
[ __ ] so I did my best you know what your
00:46:44
best is all right it's great it's great
00:46:46
it's short and sweet so hopefully that
00:46:47
makes it less strenuous on the eyeballs
00:46:49
blind is a bad over here so I can feel
00:46:51
the pain I feel like all I do is listen
00:46:52
to morbit day in and day out one could
00:46:54
say I'm obsessed I'm obsessed with you
00:46:57
obsessed with you we're obsessed with
00:46:59
you hell yeah um lots of eye rolls for
00:47:01
my husband when I shush him for trying
00:47:03
to talk to me when he gets home from
00:47:04
work and I'm deep in an episode
00:47:06
priorities Trio that [ __ ] let's get in
00:47:08
anyways let's get into it starts sad but
00:47:10
don't worry it gets better cool when I
00:47:11
was in fifth grade my brother Kevin
00:47:13
passed away from is it gleo blastoma yes
00:47:16
oh I'm so
00:47:17
sorry it's the most aggressive type of
00:47:20
brain cancer I was one of six kids and
00:47:22
it was a tough year for all of us
00:47:23
especially my parents having lost a
00:47:25
child I can't imagine no we knew the
00:47:27
holidays could be would be particularly
00:47:29
rough when it comes to Christmas my mom
00:47:31
loves wrangling as many of us to help
00:47:33
decorate the house as she can as you can
00:47:35
imagine with six kids we have all sorts
00:47:36
of Christmas ornaments on the tree I
00:47:39
know from school age my favorite being
00:47:41
my older my older sister's preschool
00:47:42
ornament that is literally just a piece
00:47:44
of Scotch tape on a string with a raisin
00:47:46
hanging from it everything gets hung up
00:47:48
it's like the SNL the SNL CHR back of
00:47:51
the Christmas tree skin my mother-in-law
00:47:54
says that to us every Christmas it's so
00:47:55
funny I'm obsessed messed with just the
00:47:57
peach piece of Scotch
00:47:59
tape and a Racin hanging does that the
00:48:02
back that [ __ ] is right that [ __ ] is so
00:48:04
right cuz if my kids made that I'd be
00:48:06
like let's put on the tree we have a lot
00:48:09
we have a lot of ornaments with our
00:48:10
names on them and we we scour the box to
00:48:12
find our respective ornaments and Hing
00:48:14
them up so one morning right around
00:48:15
Christmas time the Year my brother
00:48:17
passed away my dad came to us and said
00:48:19
you'll never believe what happened last
00:48:20
night as a brief backstory my brother
00:48:23
absolutely loved the 9s karate movies
00:48:25
Bruce Levi he sounds amazing watched
00:48:28
them constantly especially when he was
00:48:30
sick and home all the time it was a
00:48:31
running joke in our family that those
00:48:33
karate movies were always on my dad said
00:48:35
he was laying on the couch in the family
00:48:37
room watching TV after we had all gone
00:48:39
to bed and heard what he thought was the
00:48:40
doorbell ring he got up to check and no
00:48:43
one was there before even making it to
00:48:45
the couch the TV in our living room yeah
00:48:47
late 19 1990s early 2000s we had two
00:48:51
gigantic 9,000lb box TVs livein large
00:48:55
clicked on and it was AB absolutely
00:48:57
blasting a karate movie oh that was him
00:49:01
now this TV had channels 1 through 10 so
00:49:04
basic so basic shocked it wasn't black
00:49:06
and white and the movie was on a channel
00:49:08
he saw on the main TV as being in the
00:49:10
hundreds yeah like how how yeah he shut
00:49:13
it off quick so as not to wake the rest
00:49:15
of us up halfway back to the family room
00:49:17
it clicks on again full volume blasting
00:49:19
the karate movie I love that that what a
00:49:22
badass sign to send to your family too a
00:49:25
movie I love love it uh he shut it off
00:49:28
again and finally made it back to the
00:49:30
couch and decided to have a little chat
00:49:31
with my brother at that moment oh my God
00:49:33
my heart he explained to him how hard it
00:49:35
had been without him and how much
00:49:36
everyone missed him he asked my brother
00:49:38
for a sign before he could even blink
00:49:40
something fell from the Christmas tree
00:49:43
my dad got up and sure enough a
00:49:44
heart-shaped or I'm going to literally
00:49:45
cry right now a heart-shaped ornament
00:49:47
with my brother's name on it had fallen
00:49:49
from the tree to the family room floor
00:49:51
it gives me goosebumps just thinking
00:49:53
about it believe what you will about
00:49:55
this kind of spooky stuff but in that
00:49:56
moment I think we all felt peace for the
00:49:58
first time that year no I have actual
00:50:00
Goosebumps bumps of the goose variety
00:50:04
like full I figured a happy little
00:50:06
Goosebump story would be a good palette
00:50:08
cleanser if you will I seriously love
00:50:10
you guys so much and we love you and
00:50:12
your family please continue to keep it
00:50:14
Wicked weird oh yes picture of the
00:50:16
ornament included just for funsies oh my
00:50:19
God Katie
00:50:21
oh wow oh my God I just got chills all
00:50:24
over again seriously oh and I wonder if
00:50:27
they glued it back together I know it
00:50:29
kind of looks like that actually there
00:50:31
might be a little crack in it but I
00:50:32
can't tell if it's the light but I think
00:50:34
it is that is that's him the fact that
00:50:38
you're first the karate movie happened
00:50:39
and then your dad was like we miss you
00:50:41
and it's been hard like can we have a
00:50:42
sign and immediately his ornament and
00:50:45
like like Katie just said there was six
00:50:47
kids in that family yeah of all the orn
00:50:50
ornaments yeah all over I mean our tree
00:50:52
is three kids and it's like a billion
00:50:54
ornaments I can't imagine six throughout
00:50:56
the years and that that age no for that
00:50:58
one to fall that's special that's really
00:51:01
really special that's a
00:51:03
Christmas [ __ ] miracle oh we love you
00:51:07
guys we love Christmas we love Fourth of
00:51:09
July we love floating and you know we
00:51:11
love floating we love each other clearly
00:51:13
cuz we really dedicated ourselves to
00:51:15
this I Love
00:51:16
Nails You Love Nails I love a manicure
00:51:19
so this was amazing it was so much fun
00:51:21
loved it can't wait to get out of this
00:51:24
yes love you love you so much hate this
00:51:26
you in something like this back at you
00:51:28
do you want this yeah okay cool I do
00:51:31
yeah I do yeah um but yeah so we hope
00:51:35
you keep listening and we hope you keep
00:51:39
it
00:51:40
weird but not so weird that you find a
00:51:43
severed foot while you're just trying to
00:51:44
float and get a little buzz on on the
00:51:46
4th of July and also keep it a little
00:51:48
weird that you get this light-hearted
00:51:50
ornament that's a signed from your
00:51:51
brother and also he's playing karate
00:51:54
movies in the background CU that's fun
00:51:55
and there's some good karate especially
00:51:57
FES for me I love karate movies karate
00:51:59
movies forever uh also Grandma being in
00:52:02
thean keep it that weird because boans
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are weird and that's awesome um send
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Pizza to a crime scene but only if
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someone requests you to do so and follow
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the [ __ ] instructions also ghostly
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Hanukkah parties sign me up let's go
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where's the lock keys I love it keep it
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that weird and we love you guys oh my
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God I almost lit that on Fire Imagine oh
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my God
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[Music]
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[Applause]
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[Music]
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goodbye I feel like myself
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again I literally threw that off and it
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like went to
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the and then they diedit that would be
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the perfect Ed du
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tail RS into flames