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to find your style. >> Hey weirdos, I'm Ash. >> I'm Elena. >> And I'm Chef Riley.
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>> And this is a special book club episode of Morbid. >> Yay. We have Chef Riley Mian on the pod today
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who just released his first cookbook. >> First ever cookbook. >> It's gorgeous. It's a It's a beauty.
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>> It's expert. Just like me. Me. >> It's a beauty. And we're going to put it here.
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>> You can see it. >> It's so good. It has so many different things in it. That's what I love about
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it. >> Thank you. Yeah, there's definitely something for anybody. Like I wanted to
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run the gamut and give something to anybody who wants to try cooking. >> I like your little like instruction part
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too where it's like cook it like read read it through first. cook it the way that I cook it and then do your
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specialties next time. >> 100%. And also, I get so frustrated when people like screw up a recipe and they
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like then they say that they didn't actually read the recipe through. It's like rule number one. Read the recipe
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through all the way. >> But yeah, I want people to riff off stuff. Like I want it to be like
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dogeared and like noted up and like make it make it your own. >> I love that. I love that.
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>> It's such a good one. And I like the little like um instructions about like what kitchen tools to buy, all of that.
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>> Buy some kitchen tools. That's actually huge cuz I have a lot of cookbooks and
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that's rare to have in a cookbook. >> I want to make sure people are like set up for success
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>> cuz it sucks when you like set everything up and you're like let's go and then they're like all right use this
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weird strainer that you don't have and you're like >> whip out the sui machine and you're like
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why would I own a sui machine? >> I don't have that. I can't dash that right now though. I love this.
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>> Damn. I love it so much. >> Um all right. So everybody make sure to order a little bit extra which came out
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today. >> It's out today. um today. >> And it's available where? >> Literally anywhere. You can Amazon it,
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Walmart, Target, but your local bookstore. Got to love the local bookstore. Literally store. All right,
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perfect. Get it. And we're going to put the link to where you can order in the show notes. Click that link.
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>> Click it. Buy it. Buy it. Buy it. >> All right. So, you just released your book. Patricia Cornwell, our girly,
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released her first book 30ome years ago. True. And we are here to talk about postmortem. Hell yeah. postm first book.
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>> First book ever. You read this in the K Scarpa series >> when you were how old?
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>> I think I was like 10. That's wild. >> Which like why did I when it came out?
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>> You were born 1990. I wasn't alive. >> I was five. So >> I think my mom was still in high school.
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>> Damn. Maybe. I'm not sure. I don't know her life. But I was >> I do remember seeing my mom read
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Patricia Cornwell books all the time growing up. So this was a fun one to dive into.
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>> Hell yeah. >> This is really fun. I remember you talking about Patricia Cornwell like for
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as long as I can remember. But I'd never picked one up. I don't even know why cuz
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now I'm like I want to read all 29. K like has a special place in my heart now. Like
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>> I love K. >> And K just gets better and better. That's good to know. Such a superstar.
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She does. She evolves in a big way >> during the series. >> Love it. Love it. >> Love her.
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>> Also, the show just came out. I think by the time you guys are listening to this,
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it's definitely out. >> So, I'm excited to watch that. I know that it will probably spoil some like
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future ones, but I'm willing to do that. >> I'm willing to dive in. >> So, I think what it does, it's like a
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dual timeline where it covers this book postmortem and then the second timeline is going to cover autopsy, which I think
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is like the 25th book. >> Wow. >> So, it's a big time jump and they'll cover both timelines. So, I think you
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can watch some of it >> after this and not get spoiled, but the other one you'll I don't you'll get
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spoiled quote unquote, >> but there's also like 29 books to read. and a lot of bad guys. So, it's like
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you're really only spoiling one one like story line. >> And they cast um >> Nicole Kidman.
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>> Nicole Kidman. >> And she looks phenomenal. >> Like, does she age? >> What the [ __ ] I saw a recent interview
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with her and I was like, what? >> She's just always perfect. >> Yeah, literally.
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>> It's like Lilo, how Lilo just emerged and you were like, "Why do you look like
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a a newborn baby come out of your mother's womb?" And that's how Nicole Kidman looks now.
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>> She really does. I was like, "Wo." I'm like, maybe she micro needles. >> Hey, as somebody who just got micro
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needling done, do you see this glow? This butt of skin. >> All right, so we thought we could start
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off by playing some chef/med examiner questions. >> Yes. >> Do you want to just go back and forth on
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these? >> Yeah. >> All right, I'll start. >> All right. >> So, Riley, if Kay came into your
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restaurant popup, Kiko, everybody listening, >> after solving a brutal case, what would
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you cook for her to like restore her faith in humanity? It's a tall order. >> It's a tall order, but I think I'm up to
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the task. >> I think you are. >> So, she's our Italian queen, so I had to do a pasta, of course.
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>> Yes. >> So, I think I would do like a red wine brazed short rib ragu, some like fresh
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madeell pasta >> and just like some [ __ ] garlic bread >> because like >> you can't go wrong with that. And that
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would restore my faith. I knew that, right? Right. And like maybe a little side of bara for dunking with some pesto
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on it. And then I I don't think we touched on it in the book, but I feel like she loves dark chocolate.
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>> Oh, yeah. >> Don't you think she like snacks on dark chocolate? So, I feel like dark
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chocolate bodino, like an Italian pudding >> with a little olive oil and flaky salt.
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>> This is a chef, folks. >> I'm a real chef, guys. I promise. >> Wild. Like, I know my chef.
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>> I am a real chef. It's my job. >> You [ __ ] it up. >> That's a brilliant meal. And that that
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like checks off the assignment. That would restore her faith in humanity. Life is worth living.
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>> She'd be like, "You know what? It's all fine. Let's wake up tomorrow." >> How long do you cook your short ribs
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for? >> Okay. I mean, it'll depend the size, but like 3 hours. 2 and 1/2. 3 hours. If
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they're bigger, you might need to go up to like 3 and 1/2. >> That's what I do. Three and a half. So,
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they're like >> As long as they're like fall apart. I mean, you can always just like chuck
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them back in the oven and cook them longer. That's what like the beauty of short ribs are.
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>> I love short ribs. >> I do, too. I think that would be my last meal is short ribs
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>> and like garlic mashed potatoes. >> Damn. Yeah, you got to have potatoes. >> Podcast about final meals.
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>> Oh yeah, >> that's what you're coming back for next time. It's true. Cook for you guys.
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>> Yes. Oh my god. >> I was about to say, can we just go to the kitchen right now? Let's go. Short
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as we're leaving. >> We're done. >> Bye. >> Bye. >> So, the next question is is a strange
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one, but I I used to work in a morg. Obviously, everybody listening knows that. And
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>> casual drop between, you know, days. >> And between cases, you get hungry >> and you have to go back to the office
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and you got to eat something real quick and you need something that's going to like keep you going.
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>> So, what would you make for K Scarpetta to bring more snack? >> Can I give a chaotic answer?
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>> I literally require a chaotic answer. >> I feel like you have to avoid meat. >> Yeah.
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after poking and proddding around on a dead body. So, I'm going with like a tofu curry or something because it's
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going to be filling. You get your protein hit. >> And I feel like also you might want
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something aromatic to kind of mask the smell of the >> so like a lemongrassy red curry tofu
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with some rice. And you don't want to be picking anything up. I don't think either. You don't want to be eating with
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your hands utensils. Yeah. So, you can spoon. So, that's I I know that's like a little but I like it. I really love
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that. Especially like the the lemon flavor I think is fix. Yeah. A little brightness
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>> cuz it's a little stale in there. Still smell >> musty dust. You came home a few times
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smelling interesting. >> I've come and I came home the one of the things that's crazy. This is just a
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little side thing is the smell will like get in your throat. >> So when you eat things later, you taste
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like the smell. E >> I went out to dinner with John once after like a shift and I had showered
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and I had done all the things and I was sitting there eating and I was like >> it tastes like the smoke.
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>> Yeah, that's fair. It's crazy. >> I've heard that story a million times and I'm mortified every time.
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>> Fair enough. My only experience like that is that I used to work like the fish station at a restaurant and you
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just smell like fish. >> Yep. It just even like you're using gloves, you're like washing your hands
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obviously, but it's just like you can't get rid of it >> and it's just in your nose. your nostril
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like you cannot get rid of it. Drew, my husband, worked at the fish counter at the grocery market and I don't know why
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I just said the grocery market at the grocery store market like that. All of the above. The grocery market.
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He had a pair of shoes that I would not allow into my bedroom. I was like, get those.
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>> Got to sho There's like scales on them. >> No, they were one with the ocean. It was
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horrible. I should have chucked them back in the ocean and they were so gross. That is I had shoes as well that
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had to stay outside. >> Yep. I remember that. >> Outside shoes. Yeah. >> Yeah. Was like take them off.
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>> I'm going to give you this this next question too because it's just like for you to ask. I feel
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>> so again in the morg we I was like shocked to see that we used like things from like Lowe's or Home Depot to at
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times because they just worked better. So we used like literal hedge clippers with like the orange handles as rib
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cutters. >> You have to be strong to do that. >> You have to be real strong. God,
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>> especially the clavicle. Look at those. >> She still has them. >> But the clavicle especially, that's a
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that's a two two cut one, but you have to get a good, you know, good leverage. >> And those hedge clippers give you good
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leverage cuz they have the big the big handles. So, I was shocked by that. But what is something in a kitchen that we
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would kind of be shocked to see what it is used for as well? Oh my god. Or anything normal or something.
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>> You're going to just barf. Oh my god. No. >> Okay. Well, I'm only divulging my
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husband's secret because I think like this is one of his like little party trick things he brings up all the time
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is that he has gross feet. >> Okay. >> So, poor Ryan has gross feet. But, you know what? He embraces it and he like,
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you know, he laughs about it. >> Okay. Yeah. >> One day I saw him in the bathroom with a
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microplane grading his feet. You know what a microplane is? The zestester you use.
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>> Yeah. grading his feet >> like at like at the nail salon. Like at the nail salon
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cheese grater microplane zester >> and you said that's mine. >> You said that's what not what that's
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for. >> We can't clean them. >> But it is what it's for. >> It literally is for both.
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>> It's for both. But you shouldn't use them for both. >> You don't you don't have one for that and one for you said.
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Hey babe. So that's not the kind of parmesan cheese we need. Sorry. Oh, that's too far.
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>> Excuse me. I thought it was at morbid. >> Yeah. >> Cutting ribs with hedge. >> So, that one. Yeah. I do believe that
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the microplane was originally made for woodworking though. >> So, it was like used to like finish
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edges of like cabinets and stuff. >> That's like a multi multi-use tool. >> Cheese.
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>> Double cheese. >> Wow. >> Foot cheese. Regular cheese. >> I like that. >> Okay. Moving on from foot cheese.
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>> Very. Okay. Moving on from foot cheese. Maybe, maybe. We don't know. It might
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come back. Definitely. >> We love a full circle. >> It is autopsy, so anything happened
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>> and we're getting there. So, Scarpett's work obviously involves studying what
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somebody ate before they died. As a chef, would it make you kind of nervous that your cooking could end up being in
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an autopsy report? >> So, I think what makes me nervous about that is that somebody would like see it
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and be like, "Oh, that was not cooked properly." Like, they judge the way that I cook. Like, can you imagine if there
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was like Yelp reviews that like that were like >> that were like ooh stomach contents were
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not prepared by professional chef bad chef. Bad chef zero stars for whoever cooked that.
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>> What would you hope would end up and like what would your best meal be that would be in an autopsy report later that
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you'd be like that's mine like you think it would age well >> that was me. >> What feels good?
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>> That's like getting asked like what your favorite thing to cook is which is every
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chef's worst nightmare question. But I will say I love cooking Mexican food and there's a sauce called mole in like
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Wakan food. >> Wakan is my like alltime favorite type of Mexican. Um but yeah, if I could like
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nail a mole and somebody open up and they're like it smells like a delicious chicken
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>> mole. Yeah. Like damn jealous. >> Jealous of their last meal. It's crazy. >> They're like does anyone have chips?
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>> They're like take out for lunch. >> Oh my gosh. >> I love that a lot. That's a good one.
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That is a good one. One of my pride and joys. I make a good mole. And it's a hard thing to make. I was going to say
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that's not easy to make. It's labor intensive. Lots of ingredients. He's lots of balancing going on. So
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>> Oh, hell yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Next time you come back, you got to come. >> You've answered three food questions and
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I'm like, >> I came empty-handed except for Bookie up there, but it >> not empty-handed.
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>> I won't eat him, my bro. >> OD did try to bite I only have like two of those and OD tried to bite one of
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their legs off when I brought home. Od's my dog, not my husband. >> I used to have a dog named OD, too.
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>> You did? We had a family dog, Odie, and he was like half wolf. He was like an
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insane dog. >> Oh, Od is half like baked potato. He's like He's a pitbull, but his legs are
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like 3 in long, so he's like really stumpy and low to the ground. Yeah, he has little like flipper paws.
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>> I love him. He's real cute. >> Oh my god. I would I literally Is he like half wiener dog,
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too? >> We think he is like dachshun or like hound of some sort. Yeah, cuz he has
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like the little flipped out front feet. >> Stop it. I love dogs with the pity face.
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>> A little potato. I love it. I'm obsessed. We don't deserve dogs. We really don't. We really
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don't. >> Not at all. >> Oh. So, on to the next question because I'll just talk about dogs for 4 minutes,
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but >> uh if you could cook a meal inspired by the book Postmortem, what would be on
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the menu? >> Okay. There was there's so many ways that this one could go, but I >> I do a thing for my clients. Pancake
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Friday. We have pancakes. >> I literally love that you're going here. >> We just pancakes.
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>> Did you? Yeah, >> they're a perfect food. >> The maple syrup of it all. >> Nailed it.
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>> So, >> I was so hoping that's where you were going. >> Yeah. So, a fat sack of pancakes, some
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maple whipped butter, and some maple glazed bacon because what was that? What is the disease called? Maple syrup urine
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disease. Yes. The maple syrup came up so frequently. I was like, "Wait, is that like the is a a maple tree the killer?
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Like, what is going on here?" >> I came in here the other day and I go, "Maple syrup?" I was like, that is I
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literally Googled cuz I was like, that is made up. >> But it is made up. >> It's a real thing,
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>> which is crazy. >> Yeah, I've never heard of that before. >> That's a perfect meal for this. As soon
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as you started, I was like, I love I'm obsessed with that. >> You got to go with the maple syrup.
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>> All right, next question. So, both chefs and forensic pathologists obviously work
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with knives and anatomy. Very different ways, but they both work in that in that
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area. What is the closest moment you've had in the kitchen that felt like a science experiment? Either gone wrong or
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right. Doesn't have to be one or the other. >> Okay. So, bread baking is like such a
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science experiment for me. And it I've had it go >> perfectly where like you get the
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crustiest, most beautiful sourdough bread ever. >> You do the little crunch. >> Yeah. The crunch doesn't it springs back
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and you get the good airballs. But then I've also had it go completely the opposite direction where it's like
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literally a goopy blobby mess. >> And that's like it's literally science and you're just mixing. I don't in my
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head I don't understand how it works. >> Elena's so horrified by sourdough starters. I am. She's like afraid of my
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sourdough. >> Come to life in the back of your fridge. I'm like, "Feed me. >> What do you mean? You have to feed it."
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Like, "What?" And then she'll be like, "I made this with my sourdough." I'm like, "But you fed it. You fed it. It's
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a thing. I'm just going to eat it." >> Personified a little more than it should. It is very personally just
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yeast. >> And I think that's that's the problem I have with it is the personification of
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sourdough. I am part of the problem. >> Sourdough sharter. >> Shut up. >> You are such a place of charting left
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and right. This we are shing. >> It's very easy to say shark. >> I don't know. >> Say it again. One more time.
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>> Short. >> Say crack again. Crack. That's apparently how I feel about sourdough.
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Sharters. Thanks a lot. God blushing guys. >> Wait, is yours named or no? I'm not like
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that. Name mine. >> Oh, so you're not part of the problem. Mine's named part of the answer.
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Matilda. >> Yeah, she's a bad [ __ ] >> That's the thing. You'll talk about feeding Matilda and then you're like, I
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made this with Matilda. And I'm like, you know what? I've been like low-key starving.
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>> Okay. Can I just throw it out there that people are also so scared you have to
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like feed it every week and be honest for No, I've left mine in the fridge for months.
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>> Oh, mine's been in the fridge for many, many months. In fact, I have one on the
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counter right now that looks fine to me and I haven't in like a week. Probably not going to use it.
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>> But I I think they're more forgiving than people think they're >> probably agree with that.
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>> I think so. They're terrifying. I don't know why >> you don't like I wonder if you have that
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phobia of the bubbles. Oh, trypophobia. No, that's the holes. Is that the same? >> I don't really I'm not worried about the
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holes. >> But you don't like that it like gurgles. >> I just I don't like that it feels alive.
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That's I think it's the the the way that it feels alive and then you're like, eat
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this bread that I made from that. Like I think that's where my >> You do like the bread. I love the bread.
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>> Sour would be on my final death row meal. Like just hot sourdough bread with butter.
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>> Very conflicted on the whole thing. >> It's It's Yeah, it's okay to feel conflicted.
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>> Thank you. I appreciate your validation here. Yeah. And it shows how kind you
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are that you care about Matilda. >> Shape space. >> It's true. I care about Matilda. Like it
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just starts crying. Please stop. He's really upset. >> Oh. So what what ingredient would
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absolutely give you away if you tried to commit a culinary crime? Like what is your fingerprint in ingredient form?
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>> That's a clever question. I like this a lot. >> Thank you. >> Um lemon zest. I think
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>> I put I with my kitchen microplane. >> He said kitchen micro. >> Um, seriously like lemon zest or citrus
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zest in general is just like such a great way to like give a ton of aromatic like burst of flavor. Like also if you
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don't want it like that really acidic juice sometimes it's just like a nice little brighter finish. I I am a freak.
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Like it became a joke on set when we were doing the photos for the book. Julian, the gal that was the food
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stylist with me, she would be like, "Lemon zest on this." >> Throw lemon zest all of it.
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>> And it looks pretty. It like adds a little. >> Yeah, >> it's a good one. I put it
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>> I love that a lot. >> Oh, yeah. Be mine. >> Cheese. >> Cheese. Just allpurpose cheese.
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>> This cheese. They're just like That's her. >> I think garlic would be mine. >> Oh, yeah. I put garlic in everything.
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Yeah. And I love extra garlic. >> Oh, hell. If it says like two cloves of garlic, I'm like 17.
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>> I always just say like garlic measure with your heart like Literally that and
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vanilla extract measure with your hand. >> Oh, whenever I bake, I do double the vanilla and double the salt.
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>> Yep. Oh, double the salt. >> Double salt. Like cookies, chocolate chip cookies, I crap to salt.
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>> I love top them with a >> Oh, you got to >> the best. Oh, that's good to know. I
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like that. I love that. >> Hell yeah. >> Well, I guess now we can get into the book. We talked about that.
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>> We did like a like a pretty intense outline here, but we >> I was like book report time. you like.
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But when I was writing this, I was like, I don't know if we're going to do it like that.
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>> We'll just kind of >> We'll just talk it through. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So, what do we think of the book?
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>> '90s, incredible, strong women. I I walked away with it being like women empowering other women coming together
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to be badasses. Like, that's that was how it closed for me. And I love that >> cuz I love that it ended with Kay, Abby,
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and Lucy like all coming together. And how much Lucy ended up helping Kay throughout the whole
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>> movie. that that little girl. I have to confess at one point I one thing I loved
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about the book too is it like took me on so many journeys of like who I thought >> did it
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>> and at one point I was blaming little Lucy >> I was like the 10-year-old girl is
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definitely not the killer but in my head I was like she might have done >> I thought she broke into the to the
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office for sure and I was like I don't know why but I think she did >> but it was so clever the way she would
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like weave everybody's story and then I was like oh I'm sure it's this person and then no now I'm sure it's this
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person >> so good at that like so good at that. >> There was so many times, especially like
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the further along we got into it, that I thought it was Bill. I really really thought it was Bill.
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>> He fle. I was like, >> "Bill sucks ass." >> I was pissed. I did from the second.
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>> I didn't feel like he got his enough. Agreed. >> You know what I mean? Like I want I want
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somebody to pummel him. >> Yeah. >> I think Aby's going to take take care of expose him.
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>> Him and uh is it Amber Gee? Is that so? Yeah. >> Yeah. I want her to pummel them.
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>> The worst. >> Just men being horrible. I also thought that it was Wingo at a certain point.
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Did you ever >> did? Yes. I came in the other day. >> Nobody was safe. Nobody was safe in my
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brain. >> No, not even little Lucy. Not even 10-year-old Lucy. You're like, that
00:21:17
[ __ ] is up to She's crazy. >> She was just strangling people like damn strong. Strong 10-year-old.
00:21:26
>> She's leaving semen. SHE'S >> I was just going to say she's just leaving seinal fluid everywhere.
00:21:35
That's why she ruined the mor. >> Okay. >> She somehow got her hands on nonsecreas.
00:21:41
She's like, "What's this [ __ ] I guess I'll throw it on people. Guess I'll go. You guys make me blush a lot.
00:21:53
>> Little girls love pancakes." So, the maple syrup also, the maple syrup smelly.
00:21:58
They are always sticky and smelly. Unconfirmed. >> Jammy hand. Jammy hands. >> Yeah, jam hands. Lucy, you're valid.
00:22:05
>> You know what? I still I think it's Lucy. >> You're like actually good. I'm going to
00:22:09
rewrite book two is going to come back and be like kidding. It was Lucy. >> Oh man.
00:22:15
>> I love it. But I do love too that they made Marino like like such a foil in the
00:22:22
beginning and then at the end he ends up like standing up for her >> and like saving her ass.
00:22:26
>> Yeah. And then saving her. Thank God because there had to be one good like straight man to come through and like do
00:22:31
something to like restore our faith a little bit. >> And it was like questionable for most of
00:22:35
the book cuz like he's sitting there being like goddamn women when he walks away and you're just like Marino.
00:22:40
Marino's like a he's a main stay. >> I really like this. >> So interesting. This is so this is my
00:22:45
first book that I've read in the series. I'm definitely going to read more, but that's interested to see like which
00:22:51
characters come back. >> Yeah, me too. >> It's really fun. Lucy is amazing. >> Lucy is becomes a very big character.
00:22:57
Oh, >> is pretty badass. So, she's fun. >> I feel like she's going to grow up to be
00:23:01
like a computer hacker, but like one of the good ones. >> She just works for anonymous. Yeah,
00:23:05
there you go. You know, I love that. >> I love that theory. Well, I love that like throughout the book, it's like
00:23:13
there's I think there's a lot of like K being like science and logic and like we
00:23:17
need to look at this like this and Marino's the one that's like I'm going off of instinct and I think it's this
00:23:22
like I have street smarts so like let's go this way. went to school hard not so >> yeah he's like I know this but he was
00:23:27
wrong for most of the book with his instincts and she was right and then in the end it flipped and his instincts had
00:23:33
him show up to save her >> so I like that they gave them both their flowers that way it was almost like
00:23:39
confirming like you need both sides that you can't just be >> one or the other >> it's so true and just the way their
00:23:44
relationship developed because like I think when she first found out that he was driving by her house she thought it
00:23:50
was because he wanted to be like oh how does how much does the chief medical examiner make and like he wanted to
00:23:54
judge But he actually just had this instinct to protect her. >> Yeah, I love them together.
00:24:00
>> I know. He told me that I was going to love Marino. So I was like, as I was flicking through, I was like, all right,
00:24:05
not yet. Not yet. >> If you would have to say that at the beginning, I would not have I would not
00:24:10
give him a moment. >> And I did. And I did. And I now I'm like, I love Marino. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
00:24:15
Love him. Uh, and I I had so many theories about who the killer was throughout this. Like we were just
00:24:22
talking, we thought it was like Wingo. Yeah, we thought it was I mean I thought it was the husband at first.
00:24:27
>> There was a a little bit where I was like, "Fuck, is it Marina?" Yeah. Like you just don't know.
00:24:32
>> And then when it it comes I like that it came through with like there it was like
00:24:36
a layered reveal of like but you I never saw it coming. Like I didn't come up with that until it was like announced. I
00:24:44
was like, "Oh shit." Like that makes so much sense. >> At first I was a little disappointed
00:24:49
that it wasn't somebody that I had like grown. we were talking about a deep relationship with. But I do think it
00:24:54
kind of in the end lets us walk away with like our own ideas of who the those people are and how they evolved by
00:25:00
putting it by making a be like a rando spoiler alert. >> Spoiler alert. We'll say spoiler alert
00:25:07
before this. So we'll be like you need to read it first. >> Yeah. I also like cuz I felt the same
00:25:12
way. I was like oh why is it just like a random person? But then the more I thought about it I was like that's kind
00:25:16
of how life works. It's like it's not always who you suspect is the killer >> and it's you know like regular everyday
00:25:22
people that you think are just going about their jobs >> for like how dramatic everything was. It
00:25:27
was like a very real ending. I feel like >> it really was. >> And that you didn't get a motive.
00:25:32
>> Like it was just kind of like >> he's just >> he's just a >> hates women. He just smells like maple
00:25:36
syrup. >> Yeah. He just smells like maple syrup and hates women. >> Yeah. >> Yeah.
00:25:40
>> And like and liked listening to them in distress. Mhm. >> So like he would hear them in distress
00:25:45
and be like, "Well, I would like to cause more of that shiver down my spine. I hate that."
00:25:50
>> I thought it was a super like >> creative and like it was like a unique like kind of
00:25:56
>> Yeah. Like have you ever heard of that with the serial killer before like listening to
00:25:59
>> that they listen to them in distress and that's who I like. I don't know that
00:26:03
we've ever come across that. So I think >> not yet real creative Patricia. >> It was Yeah. Patty you laid with that
00:26:11
one. >> He really did a big one. You really did a big slay. >> A big slay, Patty.
00:26:16
>> Well, and I think she does a good job too at um like showing Kay's like isolation, how she starts feeling
00:26:22
isolated >> big time >> cuz she's surrounded by men >> and she's kind of like male dominated
00:26:26
feel. >> She like feels like she's losing it and everybody's like you look so tired. You
00:26:30
look like >> I know like literally you can see her like devolving into this like sleepy
00:26:34
shell of a person >> which like cuz she's working so hard and then also doing work in something that
00:26:38
is like so traumatizing the worst of humanity >> and I think she looked at that first
00:26:45
victim that we saw was her name Lori. >> Lori. Lori. And I think she saw herself
00:26:51
in Lori because Lori was like a young female doctor. Well, and they had met that one time and she kind of like kept
00:26:56
that to herself for a while and then was like when she talked to the psychiatrist
00:26:59
or psychologist when she let that go, I was like, "Oh, that's why that's affecting you so much."
00:27:04
>> And another one where I was like, "Okay, who's on school campus that like would
00:27:08
have seen them together that could have picked them out and like >> that's why it's so fun to like piece
00:27:13
together." >> It really is. I also like the way that Patricia does it where you get so much
00:27:18
of her work life, but you also get her home life. So, you can see why she's so [ __ ] stressed out because in the
00:27:23
middle of everything that she's dealing with, like trying to solve this insane murder, she's also taking care of a
00:27:28
10-year-old and her sister's just like, "Peace out." >> Yeah. I'm going to go my illustrator to
00:27:33
Miami. >> So, now she has to be a mom, >> right? I hate Dorothy. >> She's the worst. Dorothy being such a
00:27:42
>> interesting character >> that's being nice >> throughout the series. >> Well, so she sticks around.
00:27:48
>> Genie Lee Curtis plays Dorothy in the in the >> iconic see her in the in like the the
00:27:54
trailers the previews. Yes. >> Dorothy. It was so not what I pictured, but now I can't picture anything else.
00:28:02
Like I'm like what did I picture? You'll because you're picturing her like younger too, but she we're probably
00:28:08
seeing her in like an timeline. >> Yeah. >> K to me, I kept seeing her when I was
00:28:14
reading as like a mix of Dana Skully and Carmela from >> Carmela Sab. Oh my god. With her big
00:28:21
French tip. >> Hell yeah. >> Cuz she's definitely got Dana Skully. >> She definitely has Dana Skully vibes.
00:28:27
Kind of like reserved, like cool, like very like methodical. But then I I wanted her to be like kind of the
00:28:34
Italian like >> Yeah. Carmela Sunday. >> Exactly. Exactly. >> And what's cool is as this as the series
00:28:41
goes, you get a lot of Kay's like personal life and her life outside of the morg. I'm excited. And she's like a
00:28:47
cook. Like she loves to cook. She loves to garden. Like she's got all these like
00:28:50
passions outside of it that they develop. >> Yeah. They dropped the gardening one
00:28:55
towards that. I was like, "Oh, okay." >> Very well-rounded in the rest of the series. It's like you get so many looks
00:29:00
at like her life. I really like it. Yeah, that is really cool >> cuz you need that if you're the chief
00:29:07
medical examiner. You need like outlets that are >> Oh my gosh, I can't even imagine.
00:29:11
>> Yeah, you need to put your head somewhere. >> And I related to that so much because
00:29:15
even like when we do like these like very violent stories, I love going home and cooking and I like
00:29:21
>> I have stuff going on in my personal life. Like cooking is an outlet for me for sure.
00:29:24
>> It's such a good way to just like decompress. You like put your phone down, be in touch with your senses, and
00:29:31
like take your time if you can. Yeah. >> And like >> and create something. >> Create with your hands.
00:29:37
>> Chopping all the ingredients. I like I don't It does something for my nervous
00:29:40
system. >> Yeah. >> I feel like when I first started doing cooking videos, I was very into like the
00:29:45
ASMR chop style, like lean into those like heavy sautéing sounds and onion chopping. Like I loved that.
00:29:52
>> I love the second >> immediately mouth water. That was one thing in the book that I was like, can't
00:29:57
relate. I forget which victim it was, but she opened her windows cuz she had cooked ground. Ground beef and onions. I
00:30:04
was like, that probably smells [ __ ] incredible so I can like I love that smell.
00:30:09
>> If I'm like cooking that and I go outside for some reason and come back, I'm like, "Ooh, the house is like right
00:30:14
now." >> I'll never open the windows and get rid of that 100%. >> It's true. And speaking of windows,
00:30:20
Ash texted the other night while she was finishing this. She texted and she was like, "I am freaking out closing all my
00:30:26
windows and making sure they are double triple checked. Like genuinely scared." >> No, you guys, I sat down. I think it was
00:30:32
like last Saturday or something and I read almost the entire book in one sitting cuz I just I was like eating
00:30:37
this up >> and it was like 10:00 by the time I finished. I went around my entire house.
00:30:43
I locked all the windows. There was one that wasn't locking. I ran upstairs. I was like, "Drew, the downstairs dining
00:30:48
room window is not locking. Why?" And he was like, "What? Actually, fix it. I'm like, "Can you please get up and go fix
00:30:55
the window?" And he did. And it locks. So, don't even try it. >> Don't even try it. Don't even try it.
00:31:02
>> I grew up in a a town where like literally my dad would keep the keys to his car on his dashboard. We did not own
00:31:08
a key to our front door. So, I had to be like very retrained. Like Ryan, my husband's dad is a was a cop. And so,
00:31:16
Brian's like the opposite end of that spectrum where he's like, "We're home." And all the doors are locked. And I'm
00:31:20
like, why is our front door locked? So, this is all very foreign to me. Like, between Ryan and listening to you guys,
00:31:26
I feel like I've become much more >> much more cautious. >> Fresh air. It's for dead people after
00:31:31
all. >> I do love fresh air, though. >> I do love fresh air. But you do for a walk.
00:31:35
>> Just a walk. Yeah. >> And I love to burp the house during the day. >> We burp the house.
00:31:40
>> I just learned about this. >> Yeah. It's like a Is it a German thing or a Dutch thing? It's so
00:31:45
>> I think it's Dutch. >> It's wonderful. What is it called? Hold on. I I said I was like, "We need to do
00:31:50
this to the house. I love burping the house." >> In Phoenix, we have to like turn on our
00:31:53
heat during the summer sometimes because it sits >> Oh my god. >> It sits idle for so long that you have
00:31:58
to like burp the heater basically. So, you have to like So, like once a month, you have to like turn the heat up a
00:32:03
little bit on your already hot home. It's terrible. >> Oh, that sounds awful. I couldn't do it.
00:32:08
>> Hot. >> Hot. >> Yeah. You're saying it gets up to like 120°. >> I mean, I'm in the Hamptons when that
00:32:12
happens. So, >> which smart get out of there. >> My poor husband. >> We can't have you on fire like that. No,
00:32:17
we can't. >> No, I would literally not. >> Yeah. Burping the house is German. It's
00:32:21
called I think it's lofen. Luft. We lofed in the house. Yeah. I love lof in the house. I'm obsessed with that. Even
00:32:27
when I left you yesterday, you were by yourself and I was like, "Lock the door."
00:32:30
>> Yeah. She was very aggressive about it. Actually, when she she's like, "Close
00:32:33
the door and lock it behind me." And I was like, "I will." >> I don't know. I'm very I left my
00:32:37
friend's house last night and her house was so hot. We were like both sweating and she's like, "Yeah, I'm going to
00:32:41
sleep with the window open." I was like, "No, you're not, babe. No, you're not."
00:32:43
>> I always wish you could do that. >> No. I know. I always want to do that because like fresh air coming in feels
00:32:49
nice, but I never would. >> I never point with science where we can figure this out.
00:32:55
>> Let me have a window open. >> You know what? We just need to put bars on our windows. That's it.
00:32:59
>> Perfect. Let's live. >> You can open it and no one can get in. But you still got penitentiary vibes.
00:33:06
>> But you know what? Pretty. You can make the bars like translucent, gold, pretty
00:33:12
decoration, but something but reinforced so that nobody's getting in those [ __ ]
00:33:16
>> Wait, how did you feel? I forget. I don't remember like what scene this was or anything, but I just remember she
00:33:22
said >> I don't remember any part of this. >> Single thing. >> I actually don't know what I'm saying.
00:33:27
No, she said that she really hated Spanish moss karpetta. >> Oh, and I said, do you feel personally
00:33:33
victimized by it? I love Spanish. Spanish is rad. >> It's like shark. >> Spanish sharks. It's easy to say.
00:33:43
>> I love a Spanish moss moment. It's so like ethereal and like Yeah. >> And it feels so like gothic. Like it
00:33:49
feels so southern Gothic. Like I I requested from John. I was like, "Can we please just like truck up some Spanish
00:33:56
moss? I don't think it survives here." He was like, "It will not survive." >> I don't think that's how plants work.
00:34:01
It's like also I'm pretty sure it has tons of bugs in it. Look at this. >> It's like invasive. I think
00:34:06
>> I'm pretty sure once you get into the nitty-gritty of it, it's maybe not as cute, but
00:34:10
>> it's like invade. >> It is invasive. Mikey gave me the nod. All right, brothers. It is time for a
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00:36:35
Yeah. Like Bill being a full-on rapist rapist. >> Druged her and raped and then he's
00:36:41
claiming that she came on to him and he rejected her. I was like, "You piece of shit."
00:36:44
>> Classic maneuver. >> Totally. What pissed me off, too, was he was like, "Okay, I think now that I've
00:36:49
run away, we probably shouldn't see each other." [ __ ] you. >> She didn't want to see your ass. No, I
00:36:54
don't think he >> But yeah, I don't think we got the justice that we deserved with him.
00:36:57
>> Yeah, he doesn't become >> So, did he just get away with rape then? >> I don't know. Actually, I don't
00:37:02
remember. >> In my head, he gets >> down. Oh, good. >> Yeah. >> Oh, good. You're like,
00:37:09
>> you were saying in my head I thought you were saying he gets away with it and I
00:37:12
was like, no, >> no. >> You're like, wait. >> You're like, why would >> I know? I know. You're like, no way.
00:37:19
Like, why would I say that? I also like that. So when Marino was kind of like pressing her about it like cuz when she
00:37:25
was like we were kind of seeing each other and he was like has he like attacked you like has that happened was
00:37:30
like pressing her >> she was like actually kind of but at first she was like what the [ __ ] like
00:37:35
why you asked me and he apologized later which was like a big Marino moment. I was like look at you apologizing
00:37:41
>> he grew a lot. >> Yeah I mean the bar is in hell obviously it's the '9s and he's a man.
00:37:47
>> Sorry he's a man. >> I did men don't do that. >> Bar is in hell. literally is
00:37:53
>> cuz I'm just like look at him saying sorry for pressing the rape question. Like damn.
00:37:58
>> Yeah. >> But I was like that's pretty good for Marina in 1990. >> One thing I wish we got a little bit
00:38:03
more on was Bill's wife's possible suicide because I don't think she committed suicide. That's why I don't
00:38:09
want to say that he doesn't show up again cuz I I'm not positive on that. I haven't read the beginning of the series
00:38:14
in a long time. So >> I need to go back and read this. I was young. >> Fair that you forgot some stuff along
00:38:19
the way. >> Yeah. When I first heard that she had committed suicide, air quotes,
00:38:24
>> I was like that immediately I was like, Bill, yeah, red flag, Bill's like no good. Like I'm scared for K.
00:38:30
>> And it was only like a year before >> and K was like weird about she was like,
00:38:34
yeah, I don't like she was normal about it, but she was like had conflicting feelings, right? Cuz she was like,
00:38:39
"That's not all the time. >> What's going on?" >> And then they were saying like, "Well,
00:38:43
like she could have because she had like gunpowder residue on her hand, but I'm like he's a cop. would know exactly how
00:38:48
to do how to cover everything up. >> I thought that we didn't talk about the dust the glitter dust. You want to know
00:38:55
what I thought it was like for the whole book? Basically, I thought it was going
00:38:58
to come out that it was like leftover fingerprint dusting powder. >> So, I was like, it's an inside job. I
00:39:04
was like, it's it's a cop who has like fingerprint powder on them and they don't know.
00:39:08
>> You weren't far off. I mean, >> yeah, you really weren't like terribly far. Yeah,
00:39:12
>> the law enforcement part of it. >> True. Because I that I loved because it was so the whole time I was like, "What
00:39:18
the [ __ ] is this glittery shit?" >> Yes. >> Yeah. And as soon as they were like,
00:39:22
"Oh, municipal buildings use borax in the bathrooms." I was like, "Oh shit." Like it's all like that.
00:39:28
>> It's all happening. >> I was It's all happening. >> That was really fascinating.
00:39:32
>> Yeah. And I also loved the um when they went to visit the crime scenes, Marino
00:39:36
and Kay, and they went into like the psychology a lot more. >> That was a really interesting scene.
00:39:40
That was also just like so cinematic to me. I could see that in my head. the entire
00:39:44
>> I hope we get I can't wait to see that >> in the show. >> To me it felt like so like hot and
00:39:50
sweaty and like like so claustrophobic like and his nasty ass car definitely smelled like McDonald's
00:40:00
rappers all over it. >> His nasty ass car I'm pretty sure like perseveres >> character. I think that's like part of
00:40:07
his like pathology. >> As somebody who's had nasty ass cars. I get it. >> Do you guys want to know something I
00:40:12
splurge on? No, I drive so much. I drive so much cuz I work like split shift and
00:40:17
I um now I splurge on having somebody come to wash my car once a month. >> Hell yeah.
00:40:22
>> Hell yeah. Honestly valid. >> It's a freaking game changer. >> I probably would do that. My husband
00:40:28
details my car like incredibly. But if I didn't have him, I would absolutely do that.
00:40:32
>> Is he looking for another husband? >> Yeah, probably. Come on over. >> Ryan did set all this up for me, so I'm
00:40:38
very l Yeah, it's having a clean car is >> Yes. It's like a second cuz it starts
00:40:42
your day off better. You just get in there and you're like squeaky clean. >> Yeah. You don't want to sit in a nasty
00:40:46
ass drink coffee while >> Yeah, exactly. I used to have the nastiest cars. This literally came up at
00:40:53
my wedding. >> Can I see this [ __ ] over here? This mate of honor, this matron of honor. In
00:40:58
that moment, I just spit everywhere. Brought up. I once left fish tacos in my car over
00:41:06
something spilled in my car. >> Wasn't it like wasn't it? It was It was chicken marsala.
00:41:16
>> Chicken cars. >> Chicken cars. Chicken cars forever. >> And it And it is forever. If anybody's
00:41:26
driving a white Saturn around, you're driving my chicken car. That was >> enjoy.
00:41:32
>> They don't even make that car anymore. I loved her. Her name is >> That is like such a niche thing.
00:41:39
I appreciate that. >> Yeah, it was a rough spill. >> I put that car on top. >> Wet that. And it's like such it was
00:41:46
impossible to smell. Yeah, it sure was, guys. >> Oh man. >> I drove that car into the ground,
00:41:53
though. >> Yeah, that might have been similar to what dead body smells like, >> to be honest. It's that sickly sweet
00:41:59
>> Oh my gosh. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Well, that that's how I was living when I was like 20some. That's why
00:42:05
Felicia didn't like me. >> We've all been through that, >> you know. That's That's what it was.
00:42:09
Yeah. No, but I like just going back to like the crime scene visits. Back to something that nasty car. I was like, I
00:42:16
got to get away from the the chicken carol. >> I think you also left sushi on my shelf
00:42:24
once. >> Oh my goodness. Do we need to have a talk about food safety with you? >> That was so embarrassing. I we were like
00:42:34
>> she's like why am I getting sick from this grocery store sushi I left on the counter for 8 hours
00:42:38
>> I didn't know I didn't eat it I was eating it and I put it in a bookshelf next
00:42:44
>> right cuz that's where sushi goes >> so one day John's just like what the [ __ ] is that was the next day and he was
00:42:53
like what is this we found neither of us eat sushi so we were disrespectful >> what and John was like this is this is
00:43:01
sushi okay but that weekend was the weekend that I helped you when your kid threw up in the car. So, I got you. So,
00:43:06
you did >> did the cup pants. >> Yeah, barfama, babe. >> Kids puke, >> you know.
00:43:13
>> Oh my god. Putting all my nastiness. It's like when we started the show and I
00:43:17
would say I'm trash. >> Yeah. Everybody trash without asking. >> You sure can't. You sure can't.
00:43:23
>> That's why we love you. >> But again, back to the back to the the nastiest ass car
00:43:29
>> Marinos. >> Yeah. And back to the the crime scenes, I like that they were going into the
00:43:33
psychology because uh I think the behavioral science unit was only established in like 85.
00:43:39
>> That makes sense. Really not that far off >> cuz it's like brand new in like Silence
00:43:44
of the Lambs, right? It's like brand new. So that when she was writing this, it had probably only been around for a
00:43:50
couple years and she was probably like, "Hell yeah." >> Her special then. And then the way she
00:43:55
was talking about the DNA too, it was like, wo, deep dive. Did a lot of it go over my head? Absolutely.
00:44:01
>> I was like, damn. Those were ones over. >> I'm impressed. >> They were fascinating though.
00:44:06
>> Yeah. But it also is just like crazy to think that. And we've covered cases before where people are like DNA. What
00:44:12
the [ __ ] is that? >> When it was like the '8s, like what is that? What is that proof?
00:44:17
>> Get out of here. >> But it's crazy to think that. But like that's just how we solve [ __ ] now. But
00:44:21
back in the day, you couldn't even really explain that to people. >> DNA in cell phones, baby.
00:44:26
>> Oh my god. >> It's like in Scream. I knew you were going to say that. >> Every time I think of it in like the
00:44:30
original stream when that cell phone drops, I remember watching it and being like,
00:44:36
>> he has a [ __ ] cell phone. Excuse me, only killers have cell phones. It was like, what the [ __ ] And it's like a
00:44:43
giant brick that falls out of his cell phone. And that's when I was like, that is like the heyday of horror movies cuz
00:44:50
it's like when a cell phone was like the smoking gun. Like only one person has a
00:44:55
cell phone in this whole movie. It's got to be him. >> Yeah. >> My husband doesn't do horror movies but
00:45:01
Well, now he does. And I introed him with Scream cuz I was like intro. That's how you get introduced. And that was one
00:45:06
of the first like gnarly movies that I watched. Yep. >> And I think I was 10. And my brother
00:45:12
>> I think I was 10 too. I think I was 11. >> Yeah. My brother made me watch it and
00:45:15
then scared me for the next month whenever he possibly could. So, it was scarring, but also my intro into loving
00:45:22
horror. Yeah. Builds character. >> My husband was not a big horror head before he met me. And
00:45:28
>> that's not going to last. >> No. I started him with the Strangers, which might have evil. I
00:45:34
>> That's >> It's like one of my favorite horror movies ever. So, I was like, "You have
00:45:39
to watch this." And to this day, if I go, "Is Tam?" He's like, "Shut up. like it terrifies him.
00:45:45
>> The scene where she's home alone and the um >> the vinyl starts playing. >> Yes.
00:45:50
>> Is one of the creepiest. >> And it's Mama Tried. >> That song. >> I also heard that the director didn't
00:45:57
tell her where they were going to be coming from. So, she was actually like said she was terrified.
00:46:01
>> Smart. God. I was watching the Rachel Zo project the other day and Liv Tyler was
00:46:06
being styled and I was like, "Oh my god, she lives. She's then I was like, "Oh, she's that's
00:46:12
a movie." >> Oh, >> she's live, Tyler. >> Yeah, she's living. That movie is iconic. It's one of my favorite movies.
00:46:19
>> Yeah, my favorite. Well, Silence of the Limbs is my favorite, but >> Me, too.
00:46:22
>> That's my comfort movie. Me, too. >> Like, I put it on when I can't sleep. >> I literally put it on just to like feel
00:46:27
good. That's how I feel. Insane. >> So, insane. >> I tell people that and they like step
00:46:32
back from like, what? That's weird. What's wrong? We will half that movie is them staring straight into the camera at
00:46:38
you and I'm like I love this. >> I haven't watched that in forever. You're talking to me.
00:46:43
>> So good. >> Jod's talking to me. >> It is so good. >> That's been coming up in conversation so
00:46:48
much lately randomly. I feel like I'm being like called to watch that again. >> It's true. Yeah. I think we were in New
00:46:52
York at the same time as Jodie Foster last time. >> We were She was on the Today Show
00:46:55
>> and I wanted to find her and I thought like I thought we would be like beacons
00:46:59
with each other and just like to each other and we didn't. >> I know. It was so sad. It was maybe like
00:47:04
something was retrograde. >> Yeah, something was wrong cuz normally me and Jod would
00:47:08
>> Yeah, you're beacons for sure. I respect that. It wasn't a good trip. >> It's true. We almost named Blanch
00:47:14
Clarice, but John wouldn't let me. >> He was like noice. >> You could have said hello Clarice.
00:47:23
>> Every time she walked into a room, I was going to say hello Clarice. And the other one is Sydney. And you can say
00:47:27
hello Sydney. >> And I do do that a lot. Wow. That's actually such a missed opportunity.
00:47:31
>> Right. Missed opportunity. I'm going to fist fight him when I go upstairs and
00:47:35
hit him. >> Pretty much. >> Oh man. >> Ryan's car was named Clarice, but he hadn't seen the movie and I was like,
00:47:45
you just named your [ __ ] >> forward focus out of nowhere. >> I love Clarice Starling.
00:47:50
>> Mine's Vivian. >> Oh, I love that. >> She's kind of a baddie. >> Mine's Big the sequel.
00:47:58
I had a big show and then I wasn't ready to give it up yet. So I was like my next
00:48:02
car is big too. >> Is it a big car? >> No. >> No. I just love Big Edge. >> I mean she is a legend.
00:48:13
>> And then you get a third one in Big Edge the remix. >> Absolutely. >> The trifecta. That's right. Bigge five
00:48:19
ever. Our big car is named Daisy Buchanan. >> That's cute. I like that. I like that a
00:48:24
lot. >> Yeah. My first car was Stacy because then I was Stacy's mom and I had it
00:48:28
going on. >> She's not. >> I love your brain so much. >> So true. Her brain is pretty great.
00:48:37
>> Your brains are insane and I love them so much. >> The unique space over there.
00:48:41
>> So is yours. Yours is yours is a lot scarier. >> Mine's just like And yours is like,
00:48:50
>> you know, I do >> that actually. Yeah, that was perfect. nailed that. I like to
00:48:58
>> All right. I feel like we got through most of the book discussion. >> I mean, I feel like we could talk about
00:49:02
it forever, but like we I think we got the big >> One thing I have to say is that Ash was
00:49:07
completely like you were like Wingo did it. >> And then I know you came in and you were
00:49:12
like, "Fuck." Like Wingo actually did his big one and tested that cigarette. >> I really felt so bad as soon as he put
00:49:18
something into who what was the Was it Betty? >> It was Betty Rockaby. Betty. uh when you
00:49:25
throw something in your pocket, I like didn't trust her. I didn't trust Wingo. I was like, they're they're in it.
00:49:29
>> Again, that's her like playing. She's such a good writer cuz that's like the game. Like as soon as you think you are
00:49:34
on to someone, it's like boom. >> You'll suspect anyone. I also love that he she surrounded Kay with a lot of
00:49:39
women. >> Like Betty the corologist, there's Margaret the computer analyst. >> So like there's more women Abby as like
00:49:47
the strong and I think Abby is like her. >> I'm pretty sure. Yeah, you were saying
00:49:51
that this morning. It makes sense. An investigative like crime reporter. And I think she I don't think she said that
00:49:58
that's her, but it feels like her, you know, >> and I love in the end she's like, "Come
00:50:02
on vacation with us. We're going like, are you guys going to be lovers now?" >> I love you guys.
00:50:06
>> Like enemy to lover. >> He's like, "I'm going to bring you force proximity on vacation."
00:50:12
>> She's like, "Me and Lucy, we're hitting the beach. Going to Miami. Lucy, you want a new
00:50:17
>> my murderer niece Lucy? She's got some SHE'S GOT SHE'S GOT a bottle. She's got a bottle
00:50:24
of nonsecreeter over here. >> Sorry if she smells like maple syrup. >> Not Lucy catching straight.
00:50:34
>> All right. So, and whenever we have a guest on, we like sort of end with would
00:50:38
you rather, but we have would you rather for you and a bonus game. >> Ooh, bonus game.
00:50:43
>> Yes. So, we'll do would you rather first. >> Okay. >> Do you want to start the would you
00:50:46
rather and we can just go back and forth? >> Yeah. Let's go. >> All right. Start it off, girl.
00:50:49
>> All right. Would you rather spend a day learning real forensic pathology from
00:50:54
Case Carpeta >> or spend a day inside the FBI behavioral analysis unit with Benton Wesley?
00:51:01
>> I feel like Ben Wesley is hot. I don't know why. >> I think he kind of is in the in the
00:51:06
show. >> Is he? >> Yeah. >> Just if that influences your decision like deeply deeply influencers
00:51:15
Prada. >> Benton. He's period. Got it. I'm going to the >> I'm definitely staying with Kay. Like,
00:51:21
she's a legend. I want a date with Kay. >> A day with Kay. >> Me, too. >> I'm going to the behavioral analysis
00:51:26
unit, girl. See you later. >> I'm hanging out with Kay. >> Yeah. >> Even though I I just want to hang with
00:51:32
her. >> Yeah. >> Really? I'm like, let's do an autopsy together, >> girl. I also miss doing autopsies where
00:51:39
>> I don't want to do a an autopsy, but I do really like like forensic science kind of stuff. I find it super
00:51:45
interesting. So, and Ben's hot, so win-win. Win-win. >> Yeah. >> Would you rather assist Scarpa with an
00:51:50
autopsy or ride along with Marino for a suspect chase at 3:00 a.m.? >> Not in his dirty ass car. No, thank you.
00:51:58
3:00 a.m. I would be I would be chicken barfing all over the car. >> Chicken barfing. Chicken barfalling.
00:52:06
>> Um, definitely autopsy. And I've never done an autopsy. And when I was in like
00:52:09
8th grade, I did a whole science report on autopsies. >> Really? I love that. You were like
00:52:14
destined to be here. >> No, literally my grandpa was a pathologist also. >> You left that out. So,
00:52:25
>> that's so cool. >> Everyone on my mom's side, my mom's a PA and like everyone on that side of the
00:52:29
family is all >> very sciency and really cool. >> Oh, that's so cool. >> My mom brought home she worked for an
00:52:35
eye surgery center and she brought home pig eyes that they'd used to like test a
00:52:39
laser. My brother and I got in a pig eye fight. We were kids. >> The greatest thing I've ever heard. This
00:52:44
is the way you >> for bringing her grubby ass children home a styrofoam box of pig eyes because
00:52:51
she knew we would have so much fun with them. >> That's a good one right there. That's
00:52:56
good. >> You know what? She looked at that styrofoam box and she said, "I know who
00:52:59
would love this. >> You need another life." >> Your your video that you did when you
00:53:03
showed your parents your cookbook. I actually cried on it. >> I I will cry right now just thinking
00:53:07
about >> Your dad's laugh is everything to me. I have shown everyone in this house that
00:53:11
video several times. I love it. >> Literally that moment made every moment of work like worth it. It was so
00:53:18
special. They had no idea. >> Riley. >> That's so her too. Like honestly RILEY, SHE ALWAYS SAYS THAT. I'M like Gail
00:53:27
Charlie Legends. I love >> the And then when they're reading and they're like this is so you like I was
00:53:31
like oh they get you actually you're like you're like why are you bullying me right now? Stop it. Okay. Okay. Next
00:53:39
crazy question. >> All right. So, would you rather spend one night in the morg with Kay, like an
00:53:45
overnight, >> or one chaotic dinner rush in a Michelin Star kitchen? >> Oh my gosh, that's a tough one. Okay.
00:53:52
>> Did you work in a Michelin star? >> I did. I um do miss that rush a little bit.
00:53:59
>> And overnight in a morg sounds spooky. A little too spooky for me. So, as long as
00:54:04
the chef isn't like a total [ __ ] and I'm doing the the night at the star restaurant. Yeah. I miss like when
00:54:09
you're like cooking that way on a line and like high pace like frantic energy, but it's like controlled chaos. It's
00:54:14
it's really fun when it like gels. >> And when you get to the end of it, you're like, I did that.
00:54:19
>> Yeah, it's very gratifying. >> I know. That must feel really gratifying at the end of that. You're like, damn, I
00:54:23
survived. Yeah. >> And I th I mean, I did take out on an Irish pub, so I can relate,
00:54:28
>> you know? Yeah. You're like, me? Same. >> I get it. been there. You know, it's crazy.
00:54:37
>> I I would pick the autopsy again cuz cuz you did it. I just want to do it again.
00:54:43
>> Can you like go back and do autopsies? >> I don't know. I feel like I should like
00:54:48
a degree. Text the doctor I worked under and just be like, "Hi, can I pop in? Can
00:54:52
I just pop in real quick?" Quick little >> Hey, can I get in on that? >> Throw on some gloves. See what I can do.
00:54:57
>> Do you guys still have the Home Depot? I feel like you guys need a cranium opened. I do remember how to do that.
00:55:02
So, let's go. >> Wild. >> Yeah. Middle of a night in a Borg is crazy cuz you will like get yourself
00:55:08
completely psyched out. >> Oh, I would lose it. >> Yeah. Walking into the refrigerator,
00:55:13
you're like, who's going to sit up? >> Like, someone's going to do something. >> The story about the guy with the,
00:55:18
>> you know, when you were like, "Wait a second." >> With the what? >> And he breathed
00:55:23
>> with the Oh, >> I was like, I can't really say this without ruining it. So once in a while
00:55:27
if there's air trapped, >> if you push a certain way or you move the body a certain way, they will
00:55:33
release that air and it will sound like >> like a breath >> coming out. >> [ __ ] you.
00:55:39
>> My jaw is on the floor. >> And it happened once the entire time I worked out and it scared the [ __ ] out. I
00:55:47
was like, "This one's alive." Like I was like, I [ __ ] up the live. I was like, "We [ __ ] this up, guys."
00:55:55
Yeah. And then you feel weird performing the autopsy cuz you're like, are you sure they're they're not this is that's
00:56:01
what that was like? Yeah, it was a lot. Yeah, that's horrifying. >> Um, were you like dis ever desensitized
00:56:08
to seeing bodies like that or is it >> probably probably in the beginning overcome that?
00:56:16
>> In the beginning it was crazy, but I think I like immediately went into like >> Well, you always wanted to turn it off
00:56:22
mode cuz I always wanted to. So, I think I just went in there and I was so determined to not be that person that
00:56:28
faints your first day in there. >> Oh my god, did somebody faint? >> Well, it's happened a lot apparently. I
00:56:32
didn't see anybody, but we did have like medical students who would come in and which I was like, this is not for you.
00:56:39
They would have to leave like some of them would leave and be like, I feel sick or I feel I don't feel well.
00:56:43
>> Well, that's a lot. I can't that sensory overload. I would >> just a lot Yeah, that's a lot of sight,
00:56:49
>> a lot of sounds, a lot of stuff. And when I first went in there, it's true. There's a lot of
00:56:55
squaltching. And when I first went in there, all of the like the first day, they were like, "Okay, come in. They're
00:57:00
showing me around." And I'm like, "Okay, cool." And he's like, "This is the the stool that I want you to sit on if you
00:57:06
feel like you're going to pass out. Don't sit on that stool. Sit on this one." I was like, "Okay." And then he
00:57:10
was like, "If you're going to throw up, throw up in that sink, not this sink." And I was like,
00:57:14
>> "People throw up." Like I was like, "What's going on?" He was like, "Just in case like it's happened and I don't want
00:57:18
you to throw up in here cuz we'll have to clean it like immediately." And I was like, "Oh, okay."
00:57:23
>> You said noted, but I was like, "I am not going to throw up and I'm not going
00:57:26
to have to sit down." And you didn't. >> Nice. >> It's definitely on. I would throw up and
00:57:32
pass out and probably die. >> Then they do the autopsy on you right then. >> Yeah. Be like, "Oh, we got a fresh one."
00:57:36
Yeah. We' be like, "Well, this is easy. No transport needed." >> Boom. Throw me on the table.
00:57:41
>> Yeah. >> All right. One more assist K question. So, assist K or wash dishes for 12 hours
00:57:48
on a Valentine's Day show. Okay. I do love washing dishes. I do. I find it >> cathartic. Soothing. Yeah. But
00:57:56
>> I'm not doing that. I've graduated from my dishwashing. >> Me and K are me and K are buddying up.
00:58:04
>> Yeah. And Kay wouldn't have to wash any of the tools. So probably Windows job.
00:58:09
Hand that to some technician. So >> there you go. >> Yeah. I think I'm with you there.
00:58:12
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. I again I'm assisting Kay. >> I'm just with this is my first K assist.
00:58:18
>> I'm with Kay all day. I'm like, "Hi, Kayash. >> Hi, I've arrived today." >> Uh, so would you rather be interrogated
00:58:26
by detectives for 8 hours >> or be judged by a panel of extremely mean celebrity chefs about your cooking?
00:58:34
>> That sounds so scary. Which I think are two very like relatable things. >> Yeah.
00:58:41
>> Yeah. >> Okay. I grew up in the world of cooking competition. So, we would compete and
00:58:46
then you would get >> blasted by judges at the end for everything you did wrong. So, I can I
00:58:51
can withstand that one. So, I'm going to love chefs. >> Chefs have thick skin. You have to like
00:58:57
in the industry. >> I would assume so. Well, and I feel like being interrogated, they could like make
00:59:02
you admit to something that you didn't do. So afraid of the mind games. >> I would just be like, I did it. I did
00:59:07
it. Get me out of here. I'm sorry. >> Yeah. Meanwhile, you're like fighting back about your dish. You're like, I put
00:59:12
that in there. I don't know what I would do because the other day I made like chicken thighs and
00:59:17
I think I overcooked them and one of my 10-year-olds said this was a little chewy and it literally ruined my life.
00:59:24
>> You know, I actually I don't have children but I have thought about how heartbroken I would be if my kids said
00:59:29
they didn't like something I made them. >> And kids will tell you, even if you make
00:59:32
them like an amazing meal, they're like, "This is gross." >> I feel probably the more amazing you go,
00:59:37
they don't like >> they're like, "Where are my nugies? Where are my nugies?" Yeah,
00:59:41
>> they were. She was nice about it cuz it was the oldest. She was nice. >> Oh, no. It was the oldest. She was nice
00:59:48
and she was like, "I loved it." Like the And she even was like really good. She literally gave me like a judge answer.
00:59:55
And she was like, "It was just like a little chewy." And I was like, >> "What?" You
00:59:59
>> asked I was like, "Was it chewy?" And he was like, "No, it's just like chicken
01:00:02
thigh." And I was like, "You didn't. That was no butt." Like you >> you didn't give me the absolutely not.
01:00:08
It was not chewy. And I was like, "I [ __ ] it up. Chicken are super moist. >> They are. I know. So,
01:00:13
>> yeah, I [ __ ] it up. [ __ ] up. I did. I realized >> I [ __ ] up. I loved it. Okay. But I
01:00:18
thought about it for days. Gordon Ramsey say, >> "Oh my god, we have a Gordon Ramsey
01:00:22
question." We do. >> Okay. And oh my god, we're there actually. Oh, hey, you let us right into
01:00:27
it. Chased by a Would you rather be chased by a killer through a grocery store or chased by Gordon Ramsay through
01:00:33
a kitchen because you burned HIS RISOTTO? >> THE RESULT. >> THE RESULTANT. UM, oh my gosh. You know, I despite
01:00:42
being a a big boy, I'm a pretty fast runner. So, I think I could get away from the killer.
01:00:49
>> Okay. >> I think I could. I got some strong legs. >> Your car is right in the parking lot.
01:00:53
Sitting in the parking lot waiting for me. And I'm just going to hop right in. You said
01:00:57
>> Yeah, I think I can outrun. I do not want to be chased by Gordon Ramsey. >> I don't either. I don't either. I'll go
01:01:01
kill her. Yeah, I'm going kill her. >> Fair. I would have a lot to say him that >> I know that we're like, "Fuck that. I
01:01:08
think from what I've heard he's actually like so nice. >> Totally. I have heard that too.
01:01:12
>> But he it's just like he turns it up for the >> persona. Yeah. He is on a new show where
01:01:16
it's a lot more about like mentoring I think. And I'm like I appreciate that. >> Yeah.
01:01:20
>> I like that >> cuz that would be wild to have like your own like your thing is like you are just
01:01:25
a yelling [ __ ] >> Once you make somebody an idiot sandwich, you can't go back for
01:01:30
legendary. >> But I love it. So >> it is. It's true. >> All right. Would you rather solve the
01:01:36
case but never know the killer's motive or know the motive but never catch them?
01:01:42
>> Oh my god, >> it's a tough one. >> This is a really tough one. >> I know it is
01:01:47
>> because without knowing the motive, there's just no closure. I in my opinion,
01:01:53
>> as you guys say all the time, >> allegedly allegedly in my opinion. >> Um but solving a case is solving a case.
01:02:00
So I think solving the case, >> you're taking them off the streets. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I would reluctantly
01:02:06
say that. >> I know. Yeah. That's a tricky one >> cuz I want a motive. Yeah. It's very
01:02:10
scream. >> We've covered some cases that there was like no reason spookiest ones.
01:02:14
>> Yeah. And they just won't say it. Like even this one that we just read in postmortem. Yeah. You don't really get a
01:02:18
motive. >> You don't know why really. It's like >> it's always scarier for sure. Crazy.
01:02:24
>> All right. Back to celebrity chefs. Uh beat Bobby Fle or crack the case with Kay.
01:02:29
>> We were so excited when we said that. We were very excited about that yesterday.
01:02:33
We actually screamed it at each other. We did. >> Oh my gosh. >> It was like a brain muscle. I wish we
01:02:39
had video of that. >> I know. >> Um Oh my god. You I I think I could kick Bobby Fle's butt.
01:02:45
>> Really? >> I think you could, Bobby Fle. Totally. >> Let's do it. >> Bobby Fle, did you hear that? You're
01:02:50
obviously listening. Did you hear that? >> You better be. >> It's going down, Bobby.
01:02:54
>> Wait, I really want to get you on beat. Bobby Fle now. Let's start on Bobby. >> What would you make? Cuz I think you get
01:03:01
to choose how it works. Do I choose? >> I think you I think you get to choose >> cuz he I think he's like I can pick
01:03:06
anything. Bobby Fly, you got to bring him down a pig. >> Yeah. Oh my god. Oh my god.
01:03:11
>> You can think about it. You have time everything. Something in the Mexican realm. I feel like those are my flavors.
01:03:17
Those are my strong. >> Everyone listening, make sure he gets a beat Bobby flag. Like
01:03:22
>> I actually think they've reached out to me before. >> You're like, I've actually had the
01:03:25
opportunity to be so >> Keep doing it. Don't worry. Do it anyway. This is fun. >> Why not? Cuz I think I think you could
01:03:34
do it. >> Yeah, >> it will be behind you. >> I would throw it down. >> [ __ ] yeah. You would beat Bobby.
01:03:39
>> Bobby's an old man now, isn't it? >> Oh, he's Bobby. He's coming for you. >> Bobby, now let's go.
01:03:46
>> Bobby text you tomorrow >> to get to get Bobby Fle right there. You're old. >> Oh my god.
01:03:52
>> Uh I would crack the case with Kay >> cuz I don't think I could beat Bobby. Not with those chicken thighs.
01:04:00
>> Not with those chicken thighs. You're right. Damn. I don't think I could be Bobby Fle, but I would love to
01:04:05
experience that. Yeah. >> Like at least attempting. Yeah. You got to try. >> Yeah.
01:04:09
>> I think you would have a good a good chance. Crack at it. >> What would your guys' go to be?
01:04:14
>> I would probably make my Well, I probably wouldn't have time, but in in an ideal world, I would make my short
01:04:19
ribs. >> I make really good short ribs. >> I would make my chicken picata. >> Oh, your chicken is out of this world.
01:04:26
>> Thanks. >> Yeah. No, your mac and cheese. >> Oh, my mac and cheese. My special mac
01:04:31
and cheese. >> I do believe Bobby Fle probably makes a really good mac and cheese.
01:04:34
>> Absolutely. He probably like a barbecue guy. >> Eat three cheeses. >> That's true.
01:04:38
>> All right, we'll just then we'll fist fight and I'll win. >> And then I'll win. There you go.
01:04:43
Perfect. >> All right. Ginger against ginger. >> It's going down. >> All right. Would you rather be
01:04:49
responsible for one perfect dish every single night >> or solve one perfect case every year?
01:04:57
I think solve the perfect case once a year, but only because I get really bored in the kitchen. So, if I'm making
01:05:04
the same dish, even if it's perfect, >> if I'm making that dish over and over, I'm bored. I'm bored. I'm easily bored.
01:05:10
>> I can understand that. >> Be stimulated in the kitchen. >> Yeah. Give me new things.
01:05:14
>> I agree with you. I like that one, too. I definitely want to solve the perfect
01:05:17
case every year. >> That'd be Let's go. Whatever. >> Let's do it. Let's solve the case right
01:05:21
now. >> Let's Let's go. Bye, guys. Yeah. >> I'm wondering where Nancy Guthrie is.
01:05:26
We'll solve it. I know. We have to go back to Arizona, though. Sorry. >> Come on. Come on down.
01:05:30
>> We do. We're coming. >> It's going to be like 95 degrees there next week, so maybe don't come.
01:05:33
>> Uh, we'll talk to you. You know what? >> We'll zoom. >> Yeah, let's plan more.
01:05:39
>> Okay, last question for would you rather. Would you rather have Scarpetta examine your kitchen like it's a crime
01:05:44
scene or have a restaurant critic analyze your cooking like it's forensic evidence?
01:05:51
>> Okay. I don't think I would let Scarphead in my kitchen because unfortunately it it is a little
01:05:56
unorganized right now. >> Okay. >> Like I I will be honest sometimes I let it go sometimes and she would not be
01:06:03
impressed. >> She'd be like Riley. >> Yeah. >> That micro whatever Ryan's micro.
01:06:10
>> She's like is there foot cheese on there? Like I can tell my foot cheese. >> She's like DNA is on that. I can tell.
01:06:16
>> She's like that [ __ ] would glitter. >> Um yeah. >> That [ __ ] would glisten. Mhm. So, I'm
01:06:22
going restaurant critic analyze my cooking. >> Yeah. >> I would not have Scarpetta examine my
01:06:27
kitchen. I don't know. It's my kitchen is messy. >> I would have her examine my kitchen and
01:06:32
I just be like, "How do I improve?" It is what it is, girl. >> Like, I don't know. But a food critic
01:06:37
would stress me out. >> Yeah, that's fair. >> Yeah, cuz again, I have a little food
01:06:42
critic that I created. So, >> that's true. I don't need to invite another one. You actually
01:06:47
>> I created three food critics that constantly tell me about my cooking. So yeah,
01:06:52
>> my my youngest favorite thing to say is when I put something in front of her,
01:06:56
she goes, "That looks disgusting." >> And sometimes she go, "I bet it tastes good, though." And I'm like, "Damn,
01:07:02
>> my heart like just broke. >> That looks disgusting, but I bet it tastes good." And then she'll eat it and
01:07:07
she'll be like, "It does taste good. It looks disgusting." >> What does she find that what makes it
01:07:11
look disgusting? any kind of like sauce that we would think can be like, "Oh my god, this looks the best." I love sauce.
01:07:18
I need like eight sauces on every meal. >> And especially like any kind of stew.
01:07:23
She's like, "This is heinous." >> She's like, "Why would you put this in front of this dog food?" Like one time
01:07:28
like a cottage pie. That's >> like one time she ate my mac and cheese and she literally went
01:07:35
>> I was like, "I'm going to go out of the back. I'll be I'll be out back if you
01:07:39
need me. >> Get out of here." physically gag. >> I have every like layer. >> I just remember you were like, "Oh my
01:07:45
god, like don't do that." >> That is so I'm going to ruin ruthless. >> She's hilarious.
01:07:52
>> Like ruthless, brutal. Then my oldest is like like very sweet. She's the one that's like I loved the flavor. It was
01:08:00
gorgeous, but like it wasn't a compliment. She says it nice. And then my middle is like I'll [ __ ] eat
01:08:05
anything. Great. >> Whatever. That's so fascinating to like juggle such big different personalities.
01:08:11
Like >> it's always an adventure when I put a plate in front of all of them. >> Yeah.
01:08:16
>> It's never It's never a full win across the board. >> Never. I never get three out of three.
01:08:19
>> No. >> Oh my. >> You can't be making like three separate meals for all of them.
01:08:24
>> Oh yeah. You have to have like you have like backup plans where it gets like less and less like a whole meal as you
01:08:28
go back cuz it's like it ends up at like a peanut butter sandwich. >> If they don't like what I made at my
01:08:33
house, I go, "You want a peanut butter sandwich?" See, I know I know all their backups that I know will work. So, if
01:08:39
that first one doesn't work, we're like, "Okay, second in line is this. If that doesn't you don't want that, then we're
01:08:44
going to third in line." >> Mom is hard. >> It is. It's a lot. >> Hats off to you. Chef's hat off to you.
01:08:49
>> Thank you. >> My favorite, too, is when they'll love a meal the day before >> and then like 2 days later you'll make
01:08:55
it again cuz I'm like, "That worked." Like, they loved that. And they'll be like, "What is this?"
01:08:59
>> They're like, "The thing I made 2 days ago, 48 hours ago." And they're like, "No." I feel like I never said that like
01:09:05
what do you >> like gas like gas. >> It's true. >> So true. >> Wow. >> Yeah, kids are crazy, man.
01:09:13
>> All right, time for our bonus game. >> Bonus game. >> Morbid food crimes. >> I don't know. My defense theme song.
01:09:24
>> So, what do you think? Somebody cuts their steak with the side of a fork instead of a knife. Minor offense or ban
01:09:30
them from the kitchen forever? Okay, I'm giving them a questionable side eye. Okay, because I appreciate the ingenuity
01:09:36
of, you know, figuring it out, but I'm I'm like, what the hell? >> I'm like, are you well?
01:09:41
>> Are you well? >> Wait, what is your feeling if somebody orders their steak like extra extra well
01:09:46
done? >> Okay, so one thing about me is I want people to have the food experience that
01:09:50
they want. >> I love that. And if somebody like my mom likes her steak well done and I'm like
01:09:54
we're at a restaurant paying you if it's some Michelin star beautiful corout thing where like the chef is putting a
01:10:01
ton of intention into all the details and everything obviously it's not okay. >> Mhm.
01:10:05
>> But if you go to like a steakhouse and want a [ __ ] baked potato with a well
01:10:09
done steak, that is your prerogative and you should not be judged. >> I love that. Alina feels so serious.
01:10:15
>> I really do. I feel I feel that so deeply. Like people are allowed to eat food how they want it. Yeah.
01:10:20
>> Hell yeah. >> Let's go steak. Hell yeah. >> I'm side eyeing you, but >> Chef Riley is not.
01:10:30
Yeah, >> I love that. >> Oh, all right. The next one is, "Someone insists their air fryer can cook
01:10:36
anything." >> Kitchen innovation or cult behavior? >> The chef in me says, "Choke on a chicken
01:10:44
bone." >> I feel caught. But but I will say like there is an energy conscious person in
01:10:51
me who also hates cooking for myself. >> So I can appreciate >> the quick little air fryer.
01:10:57
>> The quick little air fryer moment. >> Sometimes you just have to roast a vegetable in the air fryer. So it
01:11:01
doesn't take like 35 minutes in the oven. >> Yep. >> And also they're very energy conscious.
01:11:05
>> Yeah. >> Which is nice. >> Mean I make my hard-boiled eggs in the air fryer. >> That is so insane.
01:11:12
>> No, it takes so much less time. >> I'm telling you. I found it out on TikTok. So, this is your fault.
01:11:19
>> This is your fault. You want to take I'm like a hardboiled egg creator. >> You take
01:11:26
your own Tik Tok. That's it. >> Tik Tok. My bad, guys. Tik Tok. >> Sorry about the eggs.
01:11:31
>> Sorry about Tik Tok. >> It works. >> Just because it it can work doesn't mean
01:11:36
it's that you have to do it that way. >> Just 100% of the time. And I can't do it
01:11:40
the other way. >> Okay. >> I will say I like hard-boiled eggs better the oldfashioned way. They taste
01:11:46
exactly the same. >> I just don't believe that they do. I feel like the air fryer ones are like
01:11:50
rubbery. >> That's That's exactly how I feel. I completely disagree, but I like mine.
01:11:54
>> Whip out the air fryer competition. >> We're getting Bobby Play. We're like, "This is what we'd like to make. Air
01:12:02
fryer eggs." >> He's like, "You can't come on the show." >> No, I like mine like not I like mine
01:12:08
like a medium. >> Okay. Jammy. >> I love a jammy egg, so it's perfect. >> Okay, >> there you go. I'll die on the You do
01:12:15
you. >> You're like, I believe that people deserve they like their food the way they do.
01:12:19
>> Accept your ass rubber ass eggs. >> You said stop doing that. I draw a line. >> I love it.
01:12:28
>> Okay. Um, somebody I might feel seen again or cut again. Somebody reheats fish in the office microwave. Immediate
01:12:35
jail time. >> Are Are you joking? >> Okay. You're walking the plank. You're covered in salmon skin and you're
01:12:42
jumping into water full of sharks. thing. I agree. No, no, no. I agree with you. I have never Elena loves to say
01:12:48
like, "You're that person in the office that reheats fish." I have never reheated fish in this office, but I
01:12:54
bring in smelly food. She brings smelly food and she heats it up. And we're always like,
01:12:59
>> my smelly food that I heat up is like broccoli. >> Okay. >> And other >> or like Brussels sprouts and onions. I
01:13:04
eat really good. Okay. >> Like to be microwaved. >> Yeah. I can't eat it cold. >> I don't know. I'm very self-conscious of
01:13:13
that stuff. Like on an airplane, if somebody like whips out beef jerky or something, I'm like,
01:13:18
>> "Oh, yeah. >> You don't care about anyone but yourself." >> No, I Yeah. Felony.
01:13:21
>> On an airplane, everything feels illegal. >> I know. Yeah. Lawless. >> It's true. It's true. It's lawless.
01:13:27
>> So, immediate jail time. >> Immediate jail time. No, you're walking the plank. I'm pushing you off the
01:13:31
plank. >> True. >> I've never repeated an office and I will like you always say that, but I don't.
01:13:37
>> I do. I microwave myself. Feels like that was the next step in your evolution.
01:13:41
>> I wouldn't reheat fish in general. That's just like that's >> I've been big into my meal prepping
01:13:46
lately and I have like salmon that I just like cook and then I microwave it. It's not It's not my finest moment, but
01:13:51
I was going to say not good. >> I've never microwaved salmon. >> How long do you feel like salmon lasts?
01:13:58
I'm always really paranoid about salmon. >> People's food paranoia is fascinating to
01:14:02
me because my the thing I always tell people is like you will know when your food is bad.
01:14:06
>> Okay. like the it'll smell. It'll be slimy. It'll look different. Like >> I'm super paranoid.
01:14:12
>> All of those things. And also food lasts like way longer than people. >> You sound exactly like my grandpa right
01:14:17
now. >> It's true. >> It's all these food prots. I know you guys are like grab the milk
01:14:23
from the backies, aren't you? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I remember remember that about you. So
01:14:27
like those labels of like the sell by date and stuff are not like for us. That's for their protection to be like
01:14:32
>> What about the Best Buy? Cuz isn't there a difference between Best Buy and sell
01:14:36
by? >> Maybe, but it's still it's like >> it's mostly for them. >> It's mostly for them for their
01:14:40
protection is my like conspiracy theory. >> I know. You told me recently eggs last
01:14:46
so much longer. >> Yeah, they last way longer than the carton says. That I'm fine with.
01:14:49
>> And eggs don't need to be refrigerated. I just found out. >> Well, cuz when you think about it, when
01:14:53
they >> They do in the States. >> Oh, Debbie says they do need to be refrigerated.
01:14:57
>> Eggs do need to be refrigerated in the States. There's >> is it farm fresh eggs?
01:15:00
>> Farm fresh eggs that have not been washed or anything. should sit out >> because they have a protective like
01:15:06
membrane on the outside. >> They've been processed. >> Yeah. They get like big batch farm eggs
01:15:10
that you're getting are washed, which is good for health and safety things practices, but that's why we keep ours
01:15:16
out or in the fridge. >> I'm glad that I didn't buy that rooster where you could put all your eggs in it
01:15:20
on Tik Tok the other I was going to buy. I was like, why was I about to buy that?
01:15:24
>> Yeah. And I was like, I'm not really sure. >> I have a problem when it comes to Tik
01:15:27
Tok shop. >> It's weird, too, because we grew up in a house. My dad was in the submarine
01:15:31
service. So, he was like in a submarine for months. >> I think that's why we are the way we
01:15:35
are. >> And he but he was always like like there would be like a chunk of mold on a piece
01:15:39
of cheese and you like cut it off and he was like we couldn't go anywhere in the
01:15:42
sub. We're not under this right now. >> You're like I could go to cheese. Like what the [ __ ]
01:15:51
>> I mean me personally I push stuff. Like I would be totally fine doing that. If
01:15:55
I'm cooking for other people I'm not doing that. But like when like food stuff for me, I'm like Ryan and I butt
01:16:00
heads about this cuz he >> he's gotten more lenient. But like he used to be like, "Oh, the this was sell
01:16:05
by today. It's going in the garbage." I'm like, "No." >> Don't waste it. Yeah, >> it's true.
01:16:10
>> This is an interesting debate. >> It is. I feel like people feel so differently about these things.
01:16:14
>> It's true. They really do. >> But we all feel the same. Don't reheat fish in the office.
01:16:18
>> Yeah. Don't do that. Or broccoli. >> Um and one that I think will could start
01:16:23
like battles across space and time. Yep. >> Pineapple on pizza. >> You can have the keys to the city.
01:16:31
>> Yes. >> Not because I love the combo for me, but again, >> I love >> Do you innovation?
01:16:37
>> Yeah, >> you do it. >> I was literally born in Hawaii. I was meant for that. >> Yeah,
01:16:42
>> that's I don't like I've had it before. I think it was Debbie who actually had
01:16:46
me try it first and I was like, "This isn't bad." >> But I was like, I don't think I'd order
01:16:50
this. >> I think depending on what you pair it with. So you got like the sweet, tangy,
01:16:54
tart. So like it goes well with like pepperoni or like a sausage or something that's like fatty and likes that.
01:17:00
>> Or if you put a little hot sauce on the top of it. >> I love hot sauce. >> Oh, jalapeno. So sliced holly,
01:17:05
pineapple, and like sausage. So good. >> See, >> I'm not going to order that. But also
01:17:10
like proud of proud of people who will do that in public. >> Thank you so much. >> Do what you want. What about pickles on
01:17:15
pizza? >> No, thank you. >> I thought we were so compatible. I'm not I there something I hate about myself is
01:17:21
I'm not a huge pickle girly >> really. I love a pickle pickles. >> I like certain ones, but I'm not like
01:17:28
>> across the board pickles. The only kind of pickles I don't like are the bread
01:17:31
and butter kind. >> See, I think those are the ones I do like. Wait. >> Uh-oh. >> Oh no.
01:17:39
>> There's the door. >> Get out. >> I like all pickles. I think I don't reach for the bread and butter ones, but
01:17:45
I've had them on like a sandwich before and they I like a dill and a Sammy. >> Yeah.
01:17:51
>> All right. Final question. This one I think you're you might explode. Using a
01:17:55
chef's knife to cut open a package. What is the appropriate fail sentence? >> The eternity in the metal forge making
01:18:02
knives for people is your payment. >> Damn. >> That is diabolical. >> It is really especially if you like
01:18:09
spend money on good knives. Like what are you doing? >> What is your preferred knife?
01:18:13
>> Um I mean it changes based on what I'm doing. And then also like if it's just
01:18:18
for home or what I'm recommending to people, >> what do you recommend? >> I like a good like for home cooks like a
01:18:24
good German steel knife. >> Yeah, cuz those like hold their edge a little bit better than like a Japanese
01:18:28
steel which is a little thinner. >> Okay, interesting. >> That's good to know. >> I don't know. I forget what kind of
01:18:33
knives I have. >> I have a ton, but I like rotate them through for whatever project I need.
01:18:38
>> That makes sense. >> I like that. >> This was so much fun. >> This was such a hoot. I love you guys so
01:18:43
much. >> Oh my gosh, this is so fun. All right. Come back on. >> Oh my god. Well, literally whenever.
01:18:49
Like truly, >> we're having you back. I think we decided what we were covering in the
01:18:52
middle of that, but I forget already. >> At some point, we were like, "Oh, you'll
01:18:56
be back for that." >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, [ __ ] >> What? What is it? >> Last meals.
01:19:00
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01:19:05
row people and what they ate. >> Cuz there's some crazy last meals. John Gayy's craziest.
01:19:11
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