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hey weirdos I'm Ash and I'm Elena and this is [Music] morbid more bit and I have that who that
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wonderful girl that Tik Tok stuck in my head [Music] I love all the ones that's like me when
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I haven't eaten in like 4 hours and I'm bitching at my husband and I walk in after a snack and he's like I know those
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are funny relatable guys Tik Tok is fun I [ __ ] love Tik Tok fun sometimes I want to make Tik TOs and then I try to
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the only Tik toks I can do are um the like the little generator things yeah ex same way I don't know what else to do I
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don't either and it's hard because you have to use that like cap cut thing yeah yeah it's I give influencers some credit
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content creators on Tik Tok killing it like I was say when we um talked to Tyler about this Tyler ghost honey the
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most wonderful magical mystical Whimsical human ever he is truly we were I told him how I was like I don't know
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how you how do you live like how do you live having making one Tik Tok just destroys me for like three months like
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it's so much work whenever I I like this probably happens to you too whenever I make a Tik Tok Tik Tok people are like
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oh my God Ash like you posted you're yeah like wow you exist I'm like I'll do another one in three months yeah don't
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worry we'll figure it out Som we have lots of ideas and we always say we should do Tik to yeah we came up with
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one today but we'll do it eventually I know we should do that one that would be funny but I I don't even think it's like
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a trend anymore it's all right but like we're always I'm never I was going to say you're like I never never I am never
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trending I am never trendy I am never on Trend I'm never any of that fun stuff so
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I love a good Trend let's bring it back let's bring back [Music] oh hi I wish you guys could have seen the
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face and movements that went along with that locked eyes with me and just did the whole thing and I said I'm so
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uncomfortable my favorite is when they go hi that's on the muscle plays at the wedding list there you go I like that
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goodbye must plays on the wedding list correct correct well here we are here we are [ __ ] youy what' you say said goofy YY
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goofy YY I thought you said good for YY good for goofy YY good for yui that's us
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all right we should get into I got a chuckle out of Mikey Mikey thinks we're funny he's working on our head shots we
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did head shots today yeah cool all right so that's our life hope yours is good too love you love you love you mean it
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like genuinely all right I have a real bummer of a case for you today oh wamp wamp I know it's this is a baffling one
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to me just the reaction of people to murder like the reaction people had to the brutal murder of a elderly woman oh
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is wild oh boy yeah we're going to be talking about Bernie teed and the murder of margerie marjerie nent I know this
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yeah I've known I don't know the details but I know of this one that's exactly where I was before I you know kind of
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dived in but then I dove in and I was like I got to get out of here cuz I gotta get out of here y'all are [ __ ]
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so let's just go right into it Bernie has a hard name to say because his real name is burnhard burnhard I always want
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to pronounce the d like burnhard hard it's like letter boxed letter boxed there you go yeah but Bernie teed was
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born on August 2nd 1958 Tyler Texas to burnhard teed senior and I believe it's Leila May Jester oh what an adorable
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name Leila May Leila May is a really cool name Lea may I love a first and last name combo that's like that goes
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together like that you know what I mean yeah I like that now uh burnhard was a music Professor which is really cool and
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Lila was a homemaker cute yeah and for the earliest years of Bernie's life the family lived in I believe it's Kilgore
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where his father worked as an instructor in the fine arts department at Kore junior college but unfortunately in 1960
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when Bernie was just 2 years old his mother was actually killed in a car accident oh jeez yeah really tragic
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start now his father waited three more years before remarrying in 1963 to a woman named Clara Wy uh and after the
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movie Why Did I Say movie after the wedding the family moved that's why to live in I believe it's abene Texas right
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abene sounds good to me I only say it once so if you're cringing you to cring once so starting at an early age Bernie
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took on the role of caretaker in the family like especially after his mom passed away and then when his father
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died in 1973 after battling a long illness Bernie immediately volunteered to get a
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part-time job to help support his sister and his stepmother his sister said in a
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1998 interview with Texas monthly magazine I really think that because of the loneliness he went through in his
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childhood Bernie made it his calling to serve people and times of their own need
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oh so it's it's really interesting the the path that you take throughout this case because you it's I'm like where did
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you Veer off course yeah that I think that's again I don't know the details of this but I remember that this case was
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one that was like very confusing because it's like what happened yeah it's like he just snapped yeah really now but
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before that happened that desire to take care of other people led Bernie to a part time job at a local funeral home
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where at just 15 years old he spent his afternoons doing yard work and then down
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the line he eventually started helping with the funerals okay now in 1973 East Texas where gender roles and
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heteronormativity were kind of expected Bernie was something of an anomaly he was a presence that unintentionally but
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directly defied those social expectations but on the other hand he was so charming and nice that everybody
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couldn't help but like him oh so there were things about his personality that you know where he lived people wouldn't
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usually be cool with but just because of who he was they they were cool with it isn't that funny that it's like huh yeah
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so you didn't like these things these completely just innocuous things that you decided aren't aren't right or or
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socially okay but because he's such a nice person he couldn't help but just ignore them and it's like H it's almost
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like you should look at who people are imagine that no never let's not do that no let let's let's base it off of
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something totally ridiculous oh yeah and that's not to say that there weren't people out there that just completely
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didn't accept him because he would get bullied from time to time for having a quote unquote effeminate personality but
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overall he was really popular with his classmates there were of course the group of [ __ ] that bullied him but
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for the most part he had a loving Squad well that's good yeah and I'm glad he had that when he was when he was like a
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decent person exactly see it's so confusing it's just it's such a tough case yeah but his sister said he was
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popular at high school and for kicks he'd sneak the hearse on Fridays out of the funeral home and drive a bunch of us
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around abene sorry I said it again that sounds fun yeah I would have thought that was great you would have been the
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one you'd be like okay okay but Bernie's warm friendly personality it did make him an ideal fit for the funeral
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industry you need somebody like that when you're dealing with grief and everything that comes along with it yeah
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and after graduating from high school he enrolled at MCN State University in Lake
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Charles Louisiana where he eventually got an associate degree in mortuary science which pretty cool that is pretty
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cool reminded me of you no thank you you're welcome mortuary science reminds me of you I don't have that degree but
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thank you oh you don't no Oh I thought you did no that's a whole different one of theti and like Mortuary stuff is a
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whole different very uh involved degree ah shout out to my morticians out there hey yo hell yeah
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let's go but after graduating Bernie found work at a local Funeral Parlor where he spent years and years learning
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the trade and then he moved to Carthage Texas and there he found work at Hawthorne Funeral Home and he was able
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to get an apartment just behind the funeral home so he lived close by that's a nice commute it's a great commute and
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he was close with the funeral the owner of the funeral home for a little while Don lip it said he was probably the most
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qualified young man I've ever seen he waited well on families he would sing solos behind the screen during the
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funeral and he was a darned good in Balmer he had a talent of making the hair of the deceased look really
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natural man yeah loaded statement I was just GNA say so much to unpacking that statement it's just like he was a damn
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good in Balmer which it's like you know what it's necessary yeah the whole point
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is to look great absolutely you know like to look nice and Serene and peaceful and you know and look like what
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your family members remember you looking like so like you know it's it's it's a skill that someone has to have hell yeah
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and he was also a good singer and good at dealing with the families you know yeah I always thought about that when we
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did autopsies I was like the embalmer shout out to them yeah because a lot of times I was like oh like you got your
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work cut out for you here I would imagine that would be difficult especially you know depending on how you
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leave this world exactly so so again shout out to mortician hello but Bernie he didn't just excel at work he gained
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quickly he quickly gained a reputation around town as a helpful cheerful man to just about everybody Carthage resident
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poarta said he was very quick to shake her hand and ask how you were doing and if you told him you weren't doing too
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well he would drop everything to talk to you and see what he could do and when he
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wasn't sewing curtains for his elderly neighbors or helping them with their taxes he was showering them with gifts
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and momentos damn yeah according to that uh funeral owner there Don lipy he said the
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UPS truck started arriving in Carthage every day with something that Bernie had ordered from a catalog but like for
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other people wow yeah and you're like what the [ __ ] is going on Bernie it's so
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strange when's it going to happen I'll let you know but whether it was at the funeral home in church or literally just
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on the street Bernie seemed to add something to the community that everybody recognized as valuable mhm but
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at the same time his gentle disposition his love of Broadway show tunes and his noticeably single relationship status
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did make him the subject of some small town gossip which is stupid because you're like here's this awesome person
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and we're all just going to like quietly talk [ __ ] about him because he's single
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and like likes show tunes I know like people need people need to mind their own [ __ ] business to be honest it's
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like just let them like show to again who I I don't know exactly what happens after this so I'm sure I'll change my
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tune later like well [ __ ] that but like right now I'm like if somebody's and chill just let them like what they like
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that's the thing you know if you like show tunes you like show tunes get out of show tunes I don't like show tunes
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but I hope if you like show tunes you have the best time singing them just like you know Life's Too Short everybody
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thing just live stop worrying about what other people are liking it's my favorite
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[ __ ] way of my favorite motto my favorite way of life Live and Let Live exactly if if no one's hurting someone
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of course of course if you're being a dick don't don't let that happen trouble but Don lipy said he wasn't badl looking
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and there were numerous girls in the community who would have dated him but he showed no romantic interest in women
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his age at all I think some of the men during their coffee shop talks would insinuate that Bernie was a little light
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in the loafers which um light in the loafers yeah it's a very rudely insulting way to say that somebody is
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gay wow I've never heard that nor had I I had to look it up Strangely I was like
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light in the loafers and then I forgot that Google existed so I was sitting there for like 10 minutes like light in
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the loafers and then you're like oh it's 2023 I can Google this can Google this and it's that's although you're like I
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don't really this is not a fun thing to have on my Google search history but let's go I didn't want like my cookies
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to be a part of that but no definitely not I don't even know what those are but none of us do nobody knows what cookies
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are even if you say that you know what cookies are you don't and you have to accept them everywhere you go now and we
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all just do yeah some but sometimes I say no me too I get sometimes I get strong and I say no yeah me too but
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other times I say except all accept all yeah it honestly it just depends how I'm
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feeling that day it's [Music] true but yeah so basically people at this point people really like Bernie but
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there he is the subject of small town gossip of people insinuating that he's gay because he doesn't have a partner
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and he likes show tunes which like and it's that time and it's all yes and I don't really you know whatever so either
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way whatever whatever either way whoever he was Bernie did seem to have a way with older women at least as far as
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things at the funeral home were concerned according to skip hollandsworth quote some of the older
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women in town loved him so much that they told their children Bernie had to sing at their funeral when they passed
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on wow I know like they were like listen I'm putting it in my will it's he's literally like Kirk from Gilmore Girls
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like befriending all the old ladies he getting and getting their rings at the end yeah for now for now but it was that
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strong empathy and compassion that Drew a newly widowed margorie nent to Bernie and their meeting set in motion
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unfortunately a chain of events that would forever change the lives of many people in Carthage Texas this was also
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like it was also cheerful and juny a lot of it was cheerful and JY and I don't I'm now now we're going down it's like
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going up the the hill of the roller coaster and you're about to take that dive see that's actually my favorite
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part but hey no not Lo entirely so that's where I am right now yeah on the um hypothetical no not
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hypothetical metaphorical roller coaster I don't like it there but on like the legit roller coaster I love that part
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well there you go it's a little bit about us here we are so let's talk about Marjorie let's talk about her margorie
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her made name was mid yet and she had been born in a small town just outside of Carthage in 1915 and she met her
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future husband Rod nent while they were both attending Louisiana Tech after graduation they got married Rod took a
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job with Magnolia oil and his job required them to move around like all over the place they'd spent time in
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Louisiana New Mexico Texas you name it but their longest stay was in Midland Texas they spent over 12 years there and
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mostly raised their son Rod Jr there okay then in 1989 they moved to Carthage and at that point Rod senior was
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seriously considered retirement and just wanted to settle down close to margery's
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Hometown margorie might not have been born in Carthage but it was clear that the nents were the antithesis of other
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recent transplants Like Bernie who quickly and easily integrated themselves into the community okay that wasn't
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quite the case for the nents oh after buying and controlling interest in the First National Bank of Carthage the
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couple quote built a sprawling 6,000 ft Stone home at the edge of town surrounded by a stone wall and
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electronic gate Gates damn goals holy [ __ ] I want electronic Gates electronic Gates I'm going to put that on my vision
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board damn so the high stone walls and the electronic Gates surrounding the new jent house uh certainly didn't endear
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them to the locals and it was said that neither did marjorie's attitude I will warn you ahead of time that a lot of
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people didn't have nice things to say about her which is really shitty reporting on the case because I would
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have loved to find something that I you know could report on that doesn't sound like biased or anything or like
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something that's yeah just you know like talking crappily about somebody and maybe there's something in here but a
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lot of people were kind of nasty to her but I would like to say that I bet there
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was a a few things about margery's personality course there's always that's the thing that's why it sucks when you
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only hear the bad stuff CU it's like you don't want to only hear the good stuff and you don't want to only hear the bad
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stuff like everyone's a a rounded out person that's the thing that's the thing and I think this was also later in her
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life she'd also eventually will find out that she's going to lose her husband so
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she's not in like the best time of her life if I was older and lost my husband I don't think I'd be the most friendly
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human on the planet either I'd be [ __ ] miserable so I can't give her like I'd be a a horrible person to be
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around so same you know what margerie I feel you girl I do too so I'm sure you great in your personal life ABS [ __ ]
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lutely and Rob thought so so let's go so there you go so that aside you know the
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house didn't really endear them to people because it was It was kind intimidating yeah intimidating exactly
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that's the perfect word for it and it it kind of said like we don't really want anything to do with you like that's what
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these electronic gates are all about so like leave us alone meanwhile that's just I'm like I'm like game see game oh
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I'm like yeah those I would actually have a sign on them that said leave me alone like i' I'd see that and be like
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hell yeah fellow people hater like's let's go you just go up to their security camera and do like a rock on
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rock on side hell yeah Sol brother we will never speak but see game I'm totally kidding
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everybody don't worry I mean you know so the thing was margorie didn't leave the
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house very often to go into town and whenever she did people said she had a way of rubbing people the wrong way one
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resident said if she had if she had held her nose any higher she would have drowned in a rainstorm it's like okay
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God forbid anybody be confident and you're like w that was a funny way of saying that that was a read mean exactly
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and also you get to that point in life you should be able to hold your head high I mean I hope at that age I have my
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nose so high that I'll drown in a I don't have any problem with people's confidence you know walk around feeling
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how you want to feel you shouldn't the problem comes when you look down on people yeah that's where the problem
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comes you want to hold your head up high hold that head up high girl hold that head up high I hope everybody feels that
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way sometime in their life exactly don't look down on people while you're doing it exactly and what people didn't know
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was that one of her relatives confirmed that she struggled with a kind of quote unquote low-level depression oh so she
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was struggling internally and it's like nobody took the time to to realize that or you know empathize with that at all
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that's the other thing I know we're throwing a lot of like life lessons in here but I'm feeling it in this case you
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know because it's just it's layered but it's like that's the other thing you don't know what somebody's going through
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in their private life or their pri or their insides you know what I mean like that's why don't don't just read people
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right away give people the time of day yeah that's the thing but those those low levels that she would hit they were
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said to make her unpleasant and irritable okay and this relative said it was like these blue periods came on and
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when they did she could be very biting in her comments to people Margie was a difficult woman to love but I also think
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it's important to point out that this was a bit of a different time where people didn't really have the
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understanding of mental health that they do now so I do Wonder had this happened
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more recent if margerie would have had the same reputation cuz she sounds like she was
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just struggling a bit exactly you know but in retrospect most people were able to realize that Marjorie wasn't exactly
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as as unpleasant as she was guarded and uninterested in going out of her way to make friends but if Bernie teed's warm
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welcome into Carthage tells us anything it's that in smalltown Texas friendliness and good-natured warmth can
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go a long way when it comes to integrating yourself into a community and conversely being a little close
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closed off and guarded can have the opposite effect and that caused marjerie to become something of an outcast in her
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hometown okay which sucks yeah that really sucks it does so her Outcast status became starkly apparent when her
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husband died unexpectedly from heart failure in the 90s uh in 1990 quote only a handful of people came to the funeral
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to offer her their condolences which like that's [ __ ] that's really shitty that's shitty I don't know but I don't
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know about these people I don't either I feel like even like cuz you're talking about the people who are like shitty to
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Bernie because even though he's a good person they're just mad that he likes show tunes and then these same people
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were like she's kind of being shitty to her it's like I don't know yeah seems like the call is coming from inside the
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house town sure does but you know who did go and offer their support was Bernie ah he was not only a comfort in
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his capacity as assistant funeral director but also as a friend according to one resident Larry uh Brumley I
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believe quote the nents including Mr nent knew Bernie's parents and their Association goes back many years they
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knew him as a child wow over the years they've maintained their connection and had an interest in him and helped him so
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both of them did yeah now while the majority of Carthage residents did their neighborly duty of politely passing on
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condolences after the funeral on the rare occasions that they did see margerie in town Bernie was really the
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one among the residents who took a genuine interest in margerie district attorney Danny Buck Davidson would later
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say I don't know if Miss nent had a sing single friend in the town other than him
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oh which is heartbreaking that's really sad and according to skip hollandsworth Bernie quote would later tell others
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that he could see the loneliness loneliness etched in Miss Nan's Stern face as she stood by the casket oh my
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God she was internally going through a lot oh and it's sad because he he is good to her for a while like for a
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little bit and like sees this but it's weird because like he is good to her for a little bit but then it it really
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quickly veers off course yeah this is just such a strange one it really no warning signs it feels like like I'm not
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seeing anything here that's like oh okay eventually you do we get some eventually
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in my opinion sure okay I think like somewh CU so far I'm like this just seems like oh whatever like just two sad you
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know Souls that are misunderstood exactly that's exactly what it is but that's the thing so he saw her you know
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as this lonely woman and it kind of activated his caretaker personality and Drew them to each other okay so in the
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months following Rod's death Bernie started carving out larger and larger chunks of his time to check in on the
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newly widowed margerie okay and by then she was living alone in that spring mansion that they had built just a
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couple years earlier wow and Bernie would visit the house for lunch he would take Marjorie to see plays and musical
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performances at the nearby college and he would leave notes of endearment around the house for her to find after
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he God and marjor St stock broker Lloyd tiller said Bernie made her smile he gave her plenty of attention and he was
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an excellent conversationalist it was like he made her feel young again damn so all seems lovely it kind of like
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revitalized her spirit a little bit Yeah and before long Bernie and margorie seemed Inseparable however despite what
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the local gossip said their relationship was purely platonic and never remotely romantic but margorie quickly grew
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possessive of Bernie they thought and she started repaying his acts of kindness with her own demonstrations of
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affection typically in the form of expensive gifts like a $122,000 Rolex that she bought him damn a rly rly rolly
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with a d wrench so for a woman with a reputation of being cheap and kinly Margie and Bernie's relationship baffled
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a lot of the town's residents who just clearly have a lot of time to gossip yeah and Bernie's friend Larry Brimley
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told the reporters she depended on him a lot she would cling to him and people looking on could see that margorie was
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becoming very possessive of Bernie and even though I just said that their relationship was never anything but
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platonic that didn't stop some other residents from speculating and spreading rumors that Marjorie and Bernie were not
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just friends most of the rumors actually seemed to come from the other widows in
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town because they were jealous that Bernie had been spending less time with them as he and Marjorie grew closer yeah
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which is interesting yeah that is but eventually innocent acts like Bernie napping at marjorie's house or the two
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sharing a cabin on a cruise were being interpreted as EV evidence of a romantic relationship or something unsavory of
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course so you can see where yeah people got their ideas from yeah people people love some gossip oh they sure do but one
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of marjorie's relative set of the relationship quote I think Margie truly enjoyed the companionship with Bernie
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and I think Bernie truly enjoyed Margie's money so there you go black and white right there there you go and that's
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where you start to see like maybe that a little bit of a warning sign that he really liked her money yeah marjorie's
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family I could see that for sure red flag red flag red flag that's a red flag and marjorie's Family's feelings about
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Bernie may not have been entirely misplaced in the early 9s Bernie was earning an annual salary of $118,000 per
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year as an assistant funeral director that was barely enough to cover even the essentials much less the excessive
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spending on gifts for friends and neighbors that he quite frequently engaged in Bernie's sister told writer
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skip hollandsworth Bernie was a biah he not only wanted to experience the Finer Things in life he loved buying as much
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as he could for others he'd order the same items over and over like three of the same chairs or boxes of cross pens
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just so he could give them away wow now the overspending constantly put him behind on his bills and to make matters
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worse he owed the IRS around $44,000 in back taxes and under the circumstances Bernie
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acceptance of the lavish gifts and large SS sums of money from marjerie make sense but that doesn't mean that his
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friends and family necessarily approved of the arrangement between the two of them yeah at the end of 1993 Bernie told
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his boss Don that marger had actually offered to hire him as her business manager and quote escort her on trips
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around the world for a much higher salary than he was making at the time now the owner of the funeral home Don
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lipy was stunned by the news and he warned he was a little concerned he said you know what kind of woman Miss nent is
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whatever you think you're going to get out of her you're going to have to earn every penny of it damn and Don's wife
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Sally agreed saying Mrs nen is already so possessive of you she's already making you drive out there every morning
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just to fix her coffee is that really what you want for yourself which you know I I don't I
00:27:21
don't know if it was the coffee making that he wanted for himself I don't know I think it was like uh I'm going to
00:27:26
travel the world and get paid handsomely who the [ __ ] really would say no to that
00:27:31
exactly that's the thing now this wasn't the first time somebody had warned Bernie about the rumors going around
00:27:37
town about his relationship with Marjorie in fact about a year earlier Don lipy had expressed to Bernie that he
00:27:44
was concerned the relationship could affect his business at the funeral home oh he said quote they did a lot of
00:27:50
things together people probably assumed it was romantic I told him Bernie you can't be funeral director here and do
00:27:56
that this is a small town so everybody was also falling victim of like the small town of it all here
00:28:02
that's the thing yeah very much the small town of it all mhm but about a month after that conversation Marjorie
00:28:09
ended up offering Bernie that job as her business manager and he did end up quitting his job at hawor funeral home
00:28:16
to become margery's full-time companion oh boy and quote unquote business manager I was like his degree is in um
00:28:23
mortuary science does he have a business degree I don't know no I don't know about that no but just don't know as
00:28:31
margery's new business manager Bernie had access to a lifestyle that had always been very far out of his reach
00:28:37
but very much desired so with money borrowed from margorie he bought a small house about a mile from her estate and
00:28:44
he would throw lavish parties to show off this upgrade of his and social status his sister said Bernie found
00:28:51
himself living a dream for the first time in his life he got to be somebody all right yeah so so
00:28:57
everybody's getting something out of this uh I suppose for a little bit and rightfully so in the beginning I was
00:29:05
going to say right now it's like okay it's working for everybody guess you are performing a service you are being paid
00:29:10
for it that's wonderful I'm I'm not here to say anything but CH get not okay wiely because he wasted no time
00:29:18
acclimating to his new role and access to wealth which several people in the Newen inner circle found suspicious
00:29:25
which personally I know if some random man started showing up and hanging out with my grandmother yeah I would be a
00:29:31
little sus about that that's where the uh that's where it becomes an issue I think because remember she has like a
00:29:37
child she has a son I would start I would have some issues with that yeah I'd be like what's the deal here what's
00:29:42
the end game and if somebody that was not a family member had access to my grandmother's bank account Like Bernie
00:29:48
had access to marjorie's bank account o and also had check signing privileges yeah I would not feel good about that I
00:29:56
would not be happy about that no but he did have all those Privileges and when marjor stock broker questioned whether
00:30:04
you know he could be trusted to have access to so much money I guess margorie exploded and told tiller the stock
00:30:11
broker she could absolutely trust Bernie and that if he had a problem with that she would move her stocks elsewhere whoa
00:30:17
so she was like how dare you insinuate that I can't trust him damn which makes you even sadder when you find out that
00:30:24
she went to she stood up for him like like that yeah I was just going to say cuz like Jesus like he really must have
00:30:31
brainwashed her yeah so similarly when marjerie changed her will in late 1993 to make Bernie the sole beneficiary of
00:30:41
her entire estate family members had questions yeah when one of her family members asked her why she would cut her
00:30:47
only child out of her will margorie said quote she didn't want to leave a scent to her son or her immediate family
00:30:53
because they didn't appreciate her whoa and appreciate was quote unquote but can
00:30:58
you imagine your mom cutting you out of her will cuz she says you don't appreciate her [ __ ] shoot that would be
00:31:06
a devastating blow that would be not well [ __ ] not for the like material reason but just for like the damn like
00:31:13
that is yeah that's sending a message someone taking you out of their will like not the monetary part of it just
00:31:19
the Act and the message exactly that is that's big cuz that is your last like that is you Shuffle pulling off this
00:31:27
Mortal coil and saying [ __ ] you to the person you took out of your will birds in the
00:31:34
[ __ ] that's upsetting behold my field of [ __ ] it is Barren forever and then to leave it to like another young
00:31:41
man who's probably similar in age to you that you may have known because again the N jents knew Bernie when he was a
00:31:47
child that would [ __ ] me up yeah yeah in addition to Bernie's considerable salary
00:31:54
he also accompanied marjerie on trips around the world to places like Egypt Russia they took various cruises all
00:32:01
over the place together and soon enough it seemed that the access to marjorie's Fortune was too much of a Temptation for
00:32:09
Bernie oh no and this is where it goes a r we go completely off course he started
00:32:15
regularly withdrawing small quote unquote small to medium amounts of money from margery's account and handing it
00:32:21
out around town to people who most needed it so you're like he's like a weird like
00:32:29
Robin Hood but like yeah but like with stolen money I was just gonna say it with money that like like it's not like
00:32:36
this lady has done anything terrible and like no like it's not like she like you know
00:32:42
like kills kids or something there's no to give them give it away she doesn't deserve it but it's
00:32:48
like yeah like no you can't do that you sure can't but it's like you I don't know if in his mind he's thinking or con
00:32:57
vincing himself that he's like Robin hooding I think and it's like that's not how that works honey most definitely I
00:33:02
think so oh Burnie I think he thought he was some and and this is just my opinion
00:33:06
this just my opinion he thought he was doing good here I think there's some missing pieces here Bernie and I'm sure
00:33:15
in again this is just my opinion I'm sure it was one of those scenarios where it's like well she's Rich As [ __ ] so
00:33:20
she's not going to miss it and like she's not spending it so I might as well give it to people who need it yeah but
00:33:24
it's like you that's almost like for lack of a better term like playing God kind of yeah well it's just like that's
00:33:30
not yours that's not your role to divy out yeah exactly but he sure did with money stolen from margery's account
00:33:38
Bernie quote bought at least 10 cars for people who couldn't afford one a home [ __ ] a home for a struggling young
00:33:48
couple scholarships to students at Penola college and he pledged $100,000 to the new building campaign at
00:33:58
First United Methodist Church damn I'm I'm just like so I'm like you're you have like
00:34:13
this one part of that is is good question like it's there yeah the idea yeah it's the methodology correct that I
00:34:25
have a problem with but like you're like yeah that's awesome so nice like that feels great
00:34:33
but like invest your own money and watch it grow and to her or say yeah and be like you know like this is just like a
00:34:41
really great thing that you would be able to do and since I can see you know what's happening in your financial life
00:34:50
here yeah if you felt so inclined it might be nice to help some people out you know get some of those good good
00:34:58
feelings going like just start talking to her about it and be like I could help you like we could do this small and like
00:35:05
if you wanted to do this you can't you can't take it with you when you leave so like you might as well can't take it
00:35:10
with you it's a tax right off that would have been the like ideal thing to if you
00:35:13
have this notion Bernie then just talk to her about it at least at the very least and at that point just be like
00:35:20
okay if you're not willing to do it before you you know depart this Earth maybe put in your will that like you'd
00:35:26
like to do some good with your money and stuff or just [ __ ] wait it out my guy
00:35:31
she left her entire [ __ ] estate yeah then you can do whatever you want with it you can help everybody else like
00:35:37
apparently you want to that's what's so strange about this I'm like it sounds like you want to help people but you're
00:35:42
he definitely not doing it in a good way there's really no doubt about the fact that he wanted to help people but
00:35:47
there's just like I said so many other ways to go about this and this case is it's just so bizarre very strange yeah I
00:35:54
don't know how to feel I'm feeling stress you'll know how to feel when we get to the end of it that's good this
00:35:59
ends I like to know how very brutally and very very I mean murder is always uncalled for and this specific one is
00:36:07
just like wow so with Bernie as her business manager Marjorie assumed that she didn't need to monitor her accounts
00:36:14
that's what she hired him to do yeah and the thing was though if she had been monitoring those accounts she would have
00:36:19
realized that Bernie had kind of become the community's oneman social safety net
00:36:24
yeah it sounds like it and developer using her money to help residents go to college open small businesses stay
00:36:30
afloat until their next paycheck you [ __ ] name it all the good things that you could do with money that is
00:36:36
yours but while she did Place absolute trust in Bernie the real reason for her ignorance of Bernie's I guess you could
00:36:44
say well-intentioned thefts was likely due to the onset of dementia which was first noticed by Bernie in
00:36:52
1995 oh so that makes it even more [ __ ] up in my opinion yes it abs absolutely does now just a year after
00:36:58
going to work for his friend Bernie started to feel like Marjorie had become more controlling of everything around
00:37:04
her and far less willing to tolerate any inconvenience or disappointment which is
00:37:09
a symptom of a certain kind of dementia 100% like we've all seen the commercials
00:37:14
or yep unfortunately have had to deal with it people that we love people can change when they're going through that
00:37:21
now in a conversation with his own sister Bernie said Marjorie had fired the gardeners quote because the flowers
00:37:26
hadn't bloomed in time and became Vigilant and almost paranoid about the armadillos that occasionally made their
00:37:32
way into the yard and his sister actually remembered this conversation and said I asked him why he didn't quit
00:37:37
and he gave me this tortured look and said because I'm her only friend I have to stay I'm the only one she has o which
00:37:44
is interesting because you're actively stealing from an elderly woman with woman with dementia but you also maybe
00:37:53
care about being the only friend that she has and it's like do you care about being the only friend she has or do you
00:37:59
care about the good feeling that you get when you donate her money to others that's the thing it feels like he's
00:38:07
positioned himself as the only friend she has uhhuh which is a powerful thing in someone's life to have that
00:38:16
much you know authority over everything with her and also youve positioned yourself as her only
00:38:23
Confidant which I mean like obviously that is she's been lonely a lot in her life that it feels like you're taking
00:38:30
advantage yeah this feels like a vulnerable situation a vulnerable woman and you've positioned yourself as
00:38:37
someone she can trust and that you'll be here for and then you're going around being like I'm the only one she has it's
00:38:42
like I don't know my guy that seems like you put yourself in that position that's
00:38:46
the thing and that takes away any of the you know that takes away any of like the
00:38:50
good deed points you would have gotten at any point during this and it's like great you're doing good deeds like
00:38:56
fantastic but I do think there's something to be said about people that do good deeds
00:39:00
because they genuinely want to make people you know feel good or get people out of a tough situation or people that
00:39:07
do something good because of the feeling that it gives them well and that's and it's usually like a lot of people do
00:39:14
these things silently yeah and they don't tell anyone M and they just do it because they wanted to do it and that's
00:39:21
it and it's like and it's always seems to be a thing where if you don't shout it from the rooftops you're not doing it
00:39:27
or you're you know somehow you know so it's like it it feels like he was doing it to get some of the PS on the back
00:39:35
here for doing it which I'm not saying you shouldn't get pats on the back for doing great things like by all mean I
00:39:39
love being like hell yeah people doing great things totally but like there's a balance yeah this it feels this feels
00:39:46
imbalanced to me exact it feels like it's imbalanced onto a more taking advantage side of thing than doing good
00:39:52
for doing good and it has now even though Marjorie hadn't been a very social person to begin with as 1997
00:39:59
dawned there were a few people who found it odd that they hadn't seen from her or
00:40:03
heard her excuse me seen her or heard from her in months but when people would ask about her Bernie would say she was
00:40:09
away or she'd been ill and bedridden for weeks in December of 1996 he lavishly decorated her estate for Christmas but
00:40:17
when anybody would ask where she was he would say she'd gone to her family he she'd gone to Ohio to visit
00:40:23
family it's like but okay but all right sure so by the spring of 1996 marjorie's absence had become
00:40:33
noticeable to more than just those close to her but Bernie continued to explain her absence Away by saying actually she'
00:40:39
suffered a stroke and she was in a nursing home outside of town recuperating and at that point
00:40:45
marjorie's cousin Ruth uh cockrel had become deeply concerned that something had happened to margerie but she didn't
00:40:51
really know what to do about it which I understand I yeah what do you would you do at that point like can you call the
00:40:58
police with nothing to really like be sus about and I'm sorry I forgot do you how old is she she was like in her early
00:41:07
80s at this point like I think she was proba really elderly yeah and remember she has
00:41:13
dementia like that's so so sad margerie I know and now her finally somebody is like wait a second this is weird but
00:41:20
they're not quite sure what to knows what to do this cousin of hers Ruth said I was worried something had happened her
00:41:26
but I didn't know who to talk to about it Bernie was so beloved in Carthage that if I suggested he had done anything
00:41:31
wrong I would have been laughed out of town damn which like that and that shows you how beloved he was by these people
00:41:39
which you also have to wonder did you do all of these things maybe in the back of
00:41:45
your mind somewhere knowing that you were going to get rid of this woman and you could because you were so beloved
00:41:51
and she was not necessarily by the people in town that's the and it's like when you start thinking about it because
00:41:57
now that I know that he's like a murderer uh it's it's like it it taints all of this
00:42:04
because it's almost like you look at like John Wayne gasy everybody loved that guy yep and
00:42:10
it's like that's that's a tactic absolutely because then when it comes down to Brass tax at the end everybody's
00:42:17
going well no like shut up anybody who brings it up would be like shut up not Bernie we love him and it's like they
00:42:23
all get shut down and it's like that's a tactic you it's almost like a cult leader thing it's like you take control
00:42:29
of everybody's minds and then everybody will fight for you when the truth comes out that's why this case is so
00:42:34
interesting because you can look at it through so many different lenses and I and I I have like writing it and then I
00:42:41
am right now all over again yeah you really can look at this like a hundred different ways because down the road
00:42:47
when we do find out what happened you look at it through another lens entirely like maybe he did just snap damn it's
00:42:54
interesting and tragic yeah but honestly Mar's cousin was not far off feeling that way to the residence of Carthage
00:43:01
Bernie was a beloved man for more than a decade he was so sweet to everybody that
00:43:06
the idea of him harming anybody literally seemed impossible to people and since taking his job with margorie
00:43:13
he'd become like the town benefactor which only increased his reputation to say and that's more power
00:43:20
so put simply even if something had happened to Margery it would have never occurred to anybody that Ernie had
00:43:26
something to do with it which is interesting because again he's literally like one of the only people she has
00:43:34
[Music] yeah but finally in July of 1997 an unidentified person had become so concerned about margery's welfare that
00:43:52
they did call the sheriff's department to request a well-being check now maybe it's a testament to the local sentiment
00:44:00
about both margorie or Bernie or maybe the Sheriff's Office was just really [ __ ] busy but for some reason that
00:44:07
well-being request went unnoticed for nearly a month I'm sorry what a month somebody
00:44:17
called that checkin and they didn't get around to it for nearly a month so you call a the
00:44:27
authorities and say hey hey hey haven't heard from my loved one my elderly loved
00:44:32
one very worried about them I'm so worried in fact that I would love you the authorities to go check on her check
00:44:41
on her wellbeing they say totally totally they absolutely cool cool cool and they hang up the phone and then they
00:44:47
don't do it for a month nearly 30 days that's incredible the lawsuit that I would
00:44:58
incredibly shocking like I'm just I and just like how do you what the [ __ ] how
00:45:06
how and then like after the 30 days what do you you're just like oh I guess we should go check on her like what that's
00:45:13
the thing I don't know if I'm astounded by like I'm literally shocked yeah when somebody from the sheriff's department
00:45:21
finally did reach out to Bernie in August remember this is a small town too yes this is like a big bustling City
00:45:27
that they got the billions of welfare checks the same person that took that Wellness call probably [ __ ] drove
00:45:33
past her home on the way home yes it's like just stop in do the welfare check nope nope no holy [ __ ] NOP nope nope but
00:45:40
when somebody finally did reach out to Bernie in August after getting that wellness check in [ __ ] July receiving
00:45:45
the request for it Bernie was out of town at a concert in Vegas and he said Marjorie had actually recently checked
00:45:52
into a hospital in Temple under an assumed name and that she didn't want to be bothered so sheriff's deputies were
00:45:59
like okay that's a little sus maybe we should have checked on this sooner little B and they called the hospital
00:46:04
and were informed that nobody matching marjorie's description had been admitted and nobody had been Che checked in under
00:46:10
an assumed name huh uhhuh so for the first time since Bernie arrived in Carthage some residents of the small
00:46:18
town did start to wonder perhaps Bernie teed wasn't quite the angel everybody had judged him to be yeah maybe we
00:46:23
should start looking into that and now on able to verify Bernie's story about margorie checking into the hospital
00:46:29
deputies ended up calling margery's son rod in Amarillo who came to Carthage with his daughter to help locate his
00:46:36
mother so rod and his daughter went to the house and searched for any sign of Margery but came up completely
00:46:43
empty-handed it was like she just literally vanished Into Thin Air but Rod's daughter did mention that she
00:46:50
thought it was strange that the large chest freezer in the kitchen pantry had been taped sh
00:46:56
shut H which like why did it take the granddaughter noticing that and not the deputies oh man so the comment prompted
00:47:05
sheriff's deputies to take a look inside the freezer and when they did they discovered the body of margerie nent
00:47:12
wrapped in a white sheet buried underneath a pile of frozen food oh my God so so [ __ ] up what the [ __ ] so
00:47:22
given the extent to which Bernie had gone to put off questions about marjor whereabouts in the months leading up to
00:47:27
the Discovery it was pretty obvious to investigators that at the very least he knew how she ended up in the freezer
00:47:34
yeah so sheriff's deputies spread out across Carthage and eventually found Bernie getting ready to take the local
00:47:40
little league baseball team and their families out to dinner that's where they found him
00:47:48
what still doing good deeds just yeah he's just out there knowing what's going on knowing
00:47:56
that he placed an elderly woman in a freezer but he's out there in front of everyone being like aren't I great let's
00:48:04
thecal can you [ __ ] imagine if your child was on that little league team and then you later on you found out
00:48:11
why the sheriff's approached Mr Bernie teed as you were about to go out to dinner with him with your whole ass
00:48:16
child this is outrageous outrageous yeah truly he uh was then once he was located
00:48:23
brought into the sheriff's office for questions now at first he fed surprise that they
00:48:28
would even want to speak to him at all and he actually started crying when they told him about marg's body being
00:48:35
discovered in the freezer and confronted with the truth Bernie told the deputies
00:48:39
she'd been kidnapped months earlier and he'd been negotiating with the kidnappers by phone ever since shut up
00:48:45
Penola County Sheriff's Captain David uh I believe it's Jeter said he said he got
00:48:51
one phone call from the kidnappers a month and then he said that he got a recent call that informed him quote the
00:48:57
time is near I can't me we're getting very theatrical now he loves a show tune so
00:49:05
unfortunately not being um very skilled in the ways of Deceit it was very apparent to Bernie that the
00:49:11
investigators were not buying his act no but for some reason he stuck to his story it was only after Jeter and his
00:49:17
partner returned from searching Bernie's home and informed him they found quote unquote unchristian-like videotapes in
00:49:24
their search oh Jesus that he caved and admitted to killing margerie nent so this is
00:49:31
speculation but to me and to uh probably everybody it sounds like what they found
00:49:37
was movies that confirmed people's thoughts about Bernie's love interests yes you know hopefully you got the you
00:49:48
know which it's like why would that have anything they were int they were intimidating him because they were like
00:49:55
oh we found get out sorry I was not putting that very obvious thing together no that's
00:50:00
okay I didn't that first either like they were saying like we found these and like we're going to let people know so
00:50:07
do you want to tell us something exactly okay that makes sense so according to skip hollandsworth when investigators
00:50:12
asked why he' done it quote Bernie looked at the officers in bewilderment as if the answer were obvious at last he
00:50:18
said that Miss nent had become quote very hateful and very possessive and with that he was charged with murder on
00:50:24
August 19 you can't murder people because of that sure can't can't Mur people you can just like leave yeah you
00:50:30
could quit and just uh not hang out with her anymore but then you wouldn't have access to all her money and be the
00:50:35
town's hero damn and that would really stink damn so his bond was set at 1.5 million million doll while the district
00:50:43
attorney reserved comments until they received a full autopsy report now the news the news of marjorie's death came
00:50:49
as a big surprise to the small community but it was nothing compared to the confusion most people felt when they
00:50:55
learned learned who was responsible for her death oh people must have lost it they lost their [ __ ] they didn't believe
00:51:01
it even though he quite literally like he was like I he admitted it yeah Don lipy told reporters were just shocked he
00:51:07
was just a pillar of the community and another person twink Ross spokeswoman for Penola College where Bernie had
00:51:14
donated generously to the Arts programs she echoed that disbelief saying a lot of our students are devastated over this
00:51:20
it's shocking it's just the most absolute tragedy damn and the sad thing is the tragedy I think they were talking about
00:51:29
was more about finding out that Bernie murdered someone not that an elderly lady had been murdered yeah you know
00:51:37
what I mean 100% it was focused on who did it and not what happened who was killed right it's my it's like
00:51:45
everyone's like wow this is a tragedy and it's like I know right like this poor woman lost her life and they're
00:51:50
like and it was Bernie and it's like maybe we could just talk about the person who's dead in a free I don't know
00:51:56
yeah maybe that would be great [ __ ] covered in frozen food oh God you were This Woman's friend apparent like
00:52:02
allegedly you spent all this time with her I'm sorry you have to be there has to be something very very
00:52:10
wrong with you if you can leave an elderly woman's body in a freezer cover her up with frozen food and then just go
00:52:19
about your life spending her money no like something is wrong with you something's very wrong like
00:52:25
I don't know about that so within days of his arrest it was becoming clear where people in Carthage stood on the
00:52:31
matter while margorie nent was commonly described as possessive and a quote unquote wealthy recluse with a hard
00:52:38
tough side to her Bernie was described by friends and neighbors as the kindest most gentle man a very compassionate and
00:52:46
caring person y'all like he killed an elderly woman I don't care if she was grumpy or
00:52:54
not yeah you can't can't kill grumpy old people no all old people would be dead you can't do that and it's like and
00:53:00
they've earned the right to be grumpy true yeah they lived a [ __ ] life bro yeah when I'm old I'm going to be grumpy
00:53:05
as [ __ ] I'm already grumpy and I'm 37 so it's like I'm going to be intolerable
00:53:09
when I'm old that's fine take care of you and it's like thank you I appreciate that got you girl same I won't spend
00:53:15
your money I appreciate that but it's like you're all talking about the Good Deeds he did with This Woman's money and
00:53:22
without consenting Consulting with her first what about the really really really really really bad deed that he
00:53:28
did you guys want to talk about that that one should overshadow the Good Deeds I would think yeah you know that's
00:53:33
just me though but it wasn't just like the residents in the town it was even investigators that seemed reluctant to
00:53:40
investigate the murder yeah and you know to consider Bernie a murderer yeah but the more and more they investigated the
00:53:47
case the more obvious it became that this was not a crime of passion 2 days after his arrest the Penola County
00:53:54
District dist attorney added a charge of felony theft and increased Bernie's bond
00:53:59
to $2.75 million once it was determined that he'd been stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars from marjorie's
00:54:07
bank accounts after her death holy [ __ ] mhm district attorney Danny Buck Davidson told pre told the Press quote
00:54:14
he had the power of attorney to sign checks for her but that terminated after her death or at her death so it's like
00:54:20
what the hell so it's like yeah you're continuing to write these crazy checks yeah and the fact that he did continue
00:54:26
to write the checks after Marie had been killed suggested that he in fact killed
00:54:31
her to continue accessing her Fortune absolutely and if that were determined to be the case that would Elevate the
00:54:36
charges to the case to a case of capital murder damn yeah but even the news of the new charges had little effect on how
00:54:46
people in town viewed Bernie knowing full well that he continued to access This Woman's money and Forge [ __ ]
00:54:54
checks or I I guess not well yeah it is Ford she's dead you can't sign checks at
00:54:58
that point after she he killed her people are like well wow she was grumpy and we love Bernie wow she was grumpy
00:55:06
and we loved Bernie like what the [ __ ] look in the mirror and say that statement that's the thing like it truly
00:55:11
is like she's grumpy that's literally all it is she's unpleasant like she never did anything to hurt anybody yeah
00:55:18
like she's walking she really just kept to her [ __ ] self beating people with a cane as she goes down the street like
00:55:23
Jesus like even that I'm like you know just like stay in your house yeah but like nobody you know can't kill people
00:55:30
over this [ __ ] no you sure can't and like what the this is layered it's layered and it's [ __ ] at every ler
00:55:38
Reverend EB Beasley of the First United Methodist Church who got a lot of money from Bernie told reporters that makes it
00:55:44
even more difficult to deal with but he was quick to add it doesn't mean the church has decided to turn its back on
00:55:49
Bernie the Bernie teed that's being discussed in the news today is not the Bernie teed this congregation knew he
00:55:55
was a very popular member of the church I'm sure he was he was a leader here yeah you know until he murdered an
00:56:01
elderly woman yeah and also he was a leader there because he was giving the church the elderly woman's money that he
00:56:08
stole directly from her account hold on to that cash yeah hold on to that c wipe
00:56:13
your eyes with that cash Methodist Church like Jesus come on come on like you got to come out and be like this is
00:56:19
[ __ ] up and we'd like to give it back and we'd like to like we' like to just put it back in her account or it's like
00:56:25
at least say like wow this is wild and like he's terrible and we don't condone this like maybe come out and say that
00:56:33
period not like but that's not the Bernie that we know in love guess what I don't give a [ __ ] about the Bernie that
00:56:39
was before this I care about the Bernie that's a murderer and him going to jail now well guess what it was the Bernie
00:56:45
that you knew in love because he was still coming to church spending her money after killed her yeah after he
00:56:51
murdered her oh my God so as locals worked through their confusion and conflict investigators started putting
00:56:58
together the pieces of what had led to marjorie's death they were like how did we get here according to Bernie's
00:57:02
confession he arrived at margery's house a little after 7:00 a.m. on the morning
00:57:06
of November 19th 1996 November she was discovered in August I was just gonna say wait a
00:57:15
second wait so November December January February March April May June July August nine months she was in freezer
00:57:25
and he's just walking around spending her money almost a year a full pregnancy [ __ ] 9
00:57:33
months yeah damn and also it's like that [ __ ] welfare check yeah one of those months on another on another level but
00:57:41
so on on the morning of November 19th 1996 he prepared her morning coffee and then he went back home to shower before
00:57:47
going back to marjorie's house around 10:00 a.m. he told deputies quote she had become evil and wicked and very
00:57:53
possessive over my life life and according to Bernie this was actually not the first time he had considered
00:57:59
killing margorie he told them I thought of hitting margerie in the head with a bat or anything for a couple months
00:58:04
prior to November 19th 1996 but I did not want her to suffer Oh I thought of murdering this woman for
00:58:12
a while actually could have you could have just like not hung out with her anymore you could have just left your
00:58:17
job yeah you could have just like not been there but once he returned to marjorie's house that morning he said
00:58:22
she almost instantly began ranting at him which remember She's suffering from dementia my Jesus then at one point
00:58:31
Bernie noticed the 22 caliber rifle that Marjorie had actually told him to buy to
00:58:35
deal with pests and he saw it leaning against the wall and so he picked it up and started going into the garage to put
00:58:41
the gun away but marjerie was following closely behind him according to Bernie there was nothing in particular that
00:58:47
caused him to shoot her on that day he told his sister I started thinking about having to live with her for the rest of
00:58:53
her life and I just couldn't take it I realized I couldn't stand it another day what the [ __ ] so Bernie decided he had
00:58:59
had enough of her nagging at him and he turned the rifle on her he told sheriff's deputies I took the rifle and
00:59:06
shot margorie in the back she fell face first but was still breathing heavily so
00:59:10
I shot her again I may have shot her again I didn't want her to suffer I would like you to stop saying I
00:59:18
would like her I didn't want her to suffer so then why did you shoot her because I would call that suffering
00:59:23
murder I would I would call all suffering my God sir so when he was completely sure that Marjorie was indeed
00:59:30
dead he dragged her body from the garage to the freezer and once he removed the food he placed her body inside and
00:59:37
covered her with a sheet which he kept telling investigators throughout this conversation that they were having was a
00:59:43
l Zen sheet like that made it any better he kept saying over and over again that
00:59:48
it was a l end sheet it's like I don't care if you cover her in a bougie sheet or not you've just murdered her now
00:59:55
oh my gosh and then put food back in the freezer fully covering her body holy [ __ ] once he'd stashed the body Bernie
01:00:03
returned to the garage and swept up the bullet casings along with a pile of uh large leaves which he threw in the trash
01:00:09
and then used the garden hose to wash the blood away finally he sealed the lid of the freezer with two large strips of
01:00:15
tapes uh tape excuse me and in the weeks that followed he kept going to work and
01:00:21
keeping up appearances at the house to make it seem like she was still alive and active inside to avoid questions
01:00:27
from the neighbors oh come on SO for N9 months he kept going back to the house where he killed her he went through is
01:00:38
Dia [ __ ] mcle like there's something happening in your brainium cranium that is something's wrong dor sided that is
01:00:47
dork sided VI that is I Haven said that in a while it's Sinister Vibe that's honestly definition of sinister Vibe
01:00:54
truly so when the autopsy came back it confirmed exactly what Bernie had told the authorities margorie had been shot
01:01:00
in the back four times with a 22 caliber rifle that's the other thing a rifle damn horrible so unable to make bond
01:01:10
thankfully because you know he didn't have margery's money anymore Bernie sat in a Cell at the Penola County Detention
01:01:16
Center while the sheriff's department conducted their investigation now meanwhile the IRS had to be called in to
01:01:23
Aid the case Prim primarily to perform forensic accounting services to determine just how much money Bernie had
01:01:30
stolen from margerie and where it had gone my God according to court records he had stolen over
01:01:37
$250,000 in about a dozen transactions most of them in amounts over $10,000 and in addition to that several
01:01:45
other transactions showed that he had cashed almost $400,000 in checks drawn from margery's
01:01:52
account the majority of which he distributed to neighbors charitable organizations and art programs around
01:01:58
the community I hate that he's like doing good deeds with this cuz you're like [ __ ] dude you could have been such a
01:02:06
good person he you had all the parts there over half a million dollars from this woman he had all the parts to a
01:02:16
charitable man a charitable human and he like what the [ __ ] happened I have no
01:02:21
idea but in one instance he invested almost 10,000 into a play that he was producing it was
01:02:27
written by local video store clerk Jeremy Jones and Jones told reporters we all assumed he was very wealthy I never
01:02:33
questioned it yeah why would you that's the thing why would you yeah and on August 27th 1997 a Penola County grand
01:02:39
jury indicted Bernie on quote charges of murder and theft and the death of margorie nen the indictment noted that
01:02:45
he had spent quote extensive and extremely substantial amounts of marjorie's money in the months uh since
01:02:51
her death which caused the IRS to seize his property and consider additional charges of money
01:02:57
laundering wow I was I was wondering if they were going to go that route uh yeah
01:03:02
so while the local and federal officials worked to build a case against Bernie many in town rallied around him not long
01:03:09
after he was arrested several friends and neighbors actually pulled their own resources to hire a man named Clifton
01:03:17
quote unquote Scrappy Holmes an East Texas criminal defense attorney famous for defending wrongfully accused or
01:03:24
incarcerated individuals but like honey he confessed correct now luckily not everybody was uh an enthusiastic
01:03:32
supporter of Bernie district attorney Danny Buck Davidson found the unconditional support for Bernie
01:03:39
infuriating same he said Bernie is a con man and an accomplished actor he duped a
01:03:45
really nice trusting town he's evil which like retweet yeah reex now Davidson had actually known Bernie teed
01:03:54
as as long as everyone else in Carthage had and up to this point he always thought that Bernie was a nice man yeah
01:04:01
so he understood why locals could struggle to reconcile the man they knew with the man who murdered marjerie which
01:04:07
I can understand that being like holy [ __ ] he duped us all yeah I can totally understand like having to reconcile that
01:04:14
Absol and struggling with that like for sure 100% but it's the willingness to look past what he did that's the thing
01:04:21
just because they preferred him to Margery yeah he said that was baffling and he said a couple people have said to
01:04:28
me that Bernie deserves to fry for what he's done but I know there are a lot more who want who just want the whole
01:04:33
thing to go away they keep asking me if there aren't some extenuating circumstances that would help his
01:04:38
defense and I think good God Almighty do people really think Miss nent was so mean to him that he had to shoot her in
01:04:45
the back in self-defense that's the thing she's an elderly woman she's an elderly woman I don't know how many
01:04:51
times I have to say it don't drink every time I say it cuz whoa jeez but like wow
01:04:57
so the support for Bernie teed in and around Carthage was uh was not just inexplicable to law enforcement it also
01:05:03
proved to be a really big problem when the case made its way to court yeah of the 350 perspective individuals
01:05:10
considered for the jury all but a hundred were dismissed for various reasons unrelated to the case wow and
01:05:17
when judge guy Griffin asked the remaining about a 100 prospective jurors whether they could impartially judge
01:05:23
Bernie for the murder less than half said they could wow less than half so damn judge Griffin said that was just
01:05:32
the first question their attorneys hadn't even begun their questioning at that point we felt we needed to try
01:05:38
again somewhere else so they had to declare a mistrial wow and relocate the trial
01:05:44
outside of this County I'm just like shook by this they supported this man so much that no one in town could
01:05:53
impartially be on a jury to convict him I'm like I don't even know what to say about this I I'm like looking at
01:06:00
pictures of him because I'm like do you have a kind face what is going on he does kind of have a kind face I will say
01:06:05
that wow but while the District Attorney's Office worked to get the trial moved to nearby s uh St Augustine
01:06:11
which is about an hour from Carthage Scrappy Holmes there the defense attorney was in deep negotiations with
01:06:17
the da to arrange for a plea bargain that would make a trial unnecessary but by February of 1999 the negotiations
01:06:24
stalled and all Scrappy would tell the Press was plea negotiations did not turn out so they weren't able to get any kind
01:06:31
of plea bargain here yeah now with no plea bargain in sight Bernie's trial began February 1st 1999 before the same
01:06:39
judge judge guy Griffin in the 123rd district court now despite being just an hour away from Carthage residents of San
01:06:47
Augustine hadn't been following the story and only a handful of those interviewed for potential jury duty
01:06:53
seemed interested in the case which wow you know that's good yeah so that being the case the jury pool was quickly
01:06:59
reduced from 341 individuals to 104 which was just as quickly reduced to the requisite number and Danny Buck Davidson
01:07:08
da prepared to give his opening statements on February 3rd okay now the prosecution's case was simple Bernie
01:07:14
teed had enticed marjerie with promise Promises of constant companionship spent years manipulating her with romantic
01:07:21
promises they said in order to access her Fortune and on the first day of testimony
01:07:26
Davidson called several witnesses to the stand to give the jury details of what they claimed was a sham romance so
01:07:33
taking look at pictures yeah it sure seems like he was he was angling some way it sure does
01:07:42
Robert Evans who was a friend of marjorie's because Bernie was not the only friend she had Robert ever told the
01:07:48
jury how while having lunch with margorie in her home they were interrupted by Bernie who greeted
01:07:53
margorie with a kiss and he told the jury he definitely believed this was just one of the ways in which Bernie had
01:07:59
manipulated margerie oh damn mhm that's [ __ ] up uh yeah and Angela row an acquaintance of margery's offered
01:08:07
similar testimony telling the jury about one instance where Bernie quote brushed
01:08:12
up against Mrs nent with his body in a way I did not think was appropriate oh and she also told the jury about a
01:08:18
shopping trip she'd taken with marjerie where margorie purchased some lingerie and she elaborated it was wasn't the
01:08:24
kind of linger 75-year-old woman should wear I wouldn't think my grandmother should wear it so she was saying like
01:08:30
something was going on something strange was happening here [Music] mhm now the second day of testimony
01:08:50
included a number of law enforcement officials and experts who explained the evidence and gave descriptions of how
01:08:55
the investigation had come together Bernie just sat there sobbing as the prosecution showed the court photos of
01:09:02
the crime scene and the freezer where he had stuffed marjorie's body oh well I mean shut the [ __ ] up you did that yeah
01:09:09
why are you crying now you weren't crying for the past nine [ __ ] months are you crying cuz you're reaping what
01:09:13
you sowed you were literally walking past that that freezer for the past nine months that's the thing put your [ __ ]
01:09:18
crocodile tears elsewhere [ __ ] you dude you put her in a freezer for nine [ __ ] months like you said walked
01:09:25
right by it went out and spending her money and you're sitting there crying at crime scene photos shut up you're crying
01:09:30
cuz you got caught yeah I don't buy this and you're crying cuz you probably see how [ __ ] terrible that looks now that
01:09:35
you're sitting in front of a room full of people who aren't you know accepting your good deeds quote Yeah it feels like
01:09:41
it even feels like he can manipulate you through a story the whole thing cuz in the beginning you're like oh what's
01:09:47
what's going on Bernie seems fine and then when you get to the end you're like [ __ ] you Bernie yeah now the final photo
01:09:52
shown that day which which was the final image the jury saw before being dismissed for the day was the interior
01:09:58
of the freezer the image showed quote bags of ice a white tray and some boxes of food below which could be seen the
01:10:04
small gray oval that was the back of Mrs Newton's head oh like gut-wrenching my God now the next day the jury was again
01:10:13
confronted with photo and video evidence and this time they actually showed margery's body being removed from the
01:10:19
freezer once it had arrived at the State Police lab and the images were so disturbing that the jury sent the judge
01:10:26
a note requesting a 15minute break to compose themselves wow cuz remember this is an elderly wom woman we shot four
01:10:33
times we all have grandparents and or elderly parents like I can't imagine having to see anybody like everybody
01:10:39
knows somebody who's elderly yeah you know now Bernie's defense attorney Scrappy Holmes there lodged a formal
01:10:45
objection to the video claiming that it was maab and was shown only to Prejudice
01:10:50
the jury or shown to show what your client did to this old and confessed to do yeah yeah but yeah it is maob you're
01:10:57
right uhhuh but ask Bernie about it and outside the courtroom he elaborated his objection saying to reporters Stephen
01:11:03
King couldn't have done it any better I feel like he could have I mean shut the [ __ ] up it's also just like
01:11:09
we're not talking about novels here we're talking about actual crime you sound like a piece of [ __ ] talking about
01:11:15
a [ __ ] fiction writer in comparison to like you know like you're like oh Stephen King couldn't read that written
01:11:22
that any better it's like I this is really life so mother maybe just look at the video and see that that's real and
01:11:28
that's what that guy did to her and admitted to doing to her and we're not talking about should yeah you should
01:11:34
take another Avenue here to defend your client cuz you're not doing a great job maybe just don't say anything but
01:11:40
despite having confessed to the murder Bernie did plead not guilty so the trial was necessary to determine his
01:11:46
responsibility and in his defense Scrappy Holmes told the jury Bernie was never motivated by
01:11:52
money wow never motivated by money he stole over [ __ ] half a million dollars from
01:12:00
this woman yeah never motivated by money that's a bold move to go in that direction he said instead that it was
01:12:08
margery's quote unquote possessive demanding nature that had become intolerable and his client simply quote
01:12:14
unquote snapped so what you're saying is that when that becomes too much to handle in your work environment that you
01:12:21
should just kill your boss yeah is is that what you're saying and that's okay you should get away with it cuz you just
01:12:25
snapped absolutely which like I do wonder if he did just snap like you can look at it through that lens because
01:12:33
he has no priors here like you're like well that's this is whole thing is very shocking it's a shocking
01:12:41
act I mean to put her in a to put margerie in a freezer and and walk by her for 9 months something's got to be
01:12:49
WR and spend her money feels more that feels like more than a snap it does you can snap oops in the moment you made
01:12:58
a big mistake but this is this is a lot more than that it just feels like you there's something
01:13:07
you got to have a lot [ __ ] up inside you to be able to do that [ __ ] and to be
01:13:11
able to walk by that freezer and be able to spend her money and go into her home
01:13:15
every day and tell her loved ones oh that she's fine she's just like doesn't want to talk to you and like or like
01:13:22
she's had a broke like he at one point he make up stories and [ __ ] like that's
01:13:27
really diabolical he had that inside of him mhm absolutely but they said in time
01:13:34
marjerie became overbearing and demanding of all of Bernie's time which eventually pushed him to the point of an
01:13:39
impulsive action resulting in her death and they said if his motive was indeed greed as the prosecution had alleged why
01:13:46
would he have gone out of his way to give away the vast majority of stolen funds to the community members and Civic
01:13:52
organizations I don't know man because he has he has a hero complex I think he has a Robin Hood
01:13:59
complex I think that is what is at the root of all of this it's that's a problem too my friend like that's not
01:14:06
that's not good big time so given Bernie's confession Scrappy holm's objective was more or less damage
01:14:13
control in a lesser sentence that was what he was out for so he needed to convince the jury that Bernie had acted
01:14:19
in a moment of passion and impulsivity and that he actually didn't pose anything threat to you know or future
01:14:25
danger to the community but unfortunately for the defense the prosecution did a more than adequate job
01:14:31
of portraying Bernie as a con artist after one thing and one thing only and in his closing statements the da told
01:14:38
the jury from this evidence you can find this defendant was a liar a liar coward
01:14:43
and back shooter so having no other context or familiarity with the defendant the jury had no trouble
01:14:48
believing that this was the case as presented by the prosecution and after less than an hour of deliberation they
01:14:56
returned with a guilty verdict I mean I would I would he literally confessed at one point now given Bernie's confession
01:15:03
the guilty verdict was pretty much expected when it came to the punishment phase however Holmes was hopeful that
01:15:09
his client's reputation would go a long way to secure a lighter sentence Davidson the prosecutor on the other
01:15:15
hand was pushing for a strict sentence he told reporters I think you've got to look at the crime and the punishment
01:15:21
should fit the crime and margery's family was also hopeful for the maximum sentence her granddaughter Susan said
01:15:27
we're relieved that there was a guilty verdict he deserves 99 years I mean yeah bye so the next day on February 11th the
01:15:35
court reconvened for the sentencing phase where the jury deliberated for less than two hours and returned with a
01:15:40
sentence of life in prison wow which I mean you murdered someone and stole all their money exactly and they also um
01:15:47
gave him a fine of $10,000 wow now marjorie's granddaughter Susan told reporters this was a horrible terrible
01:15:54
crime and he deserved the worst sentence he got he could get and obviously the jury thought so too and margery's Son
01:16:00
Rod Jr was also in town for the trial he was actually expected or expecting to be
01:16:05
called as a witness but he wasn't called so the sentencing phase was the first time he could speak in the courtroom
01:16:11
since the trial started and when he finally was able to talk he said I'm really here to see Justice done and
01:16:16
forclosure this crime to me is about finding old people who are vulnerable and stealing from them yeah which like
01:16:22
100% absolutely now after he was convicted and sentenced in the whole nine defense
01:16:28
attorney Clifton Holmes immediately fired papers requesting the judge declare a mistrial which was rejected
01:16:34
yeah but followed by the usual round of appeals you know how it always goes now among the issues cited for the appeal
01:16:41
was the claim that the judge refused to allow the defense's psychiatric expert to testify which they alleged could have
01:16:48
confirmed Bernie's quote unquote lack of future dangerousness and provided important evidence as to quote unquote
01:16:54
his mental condition during uh during and after the offense so they were saying you didn't let our psychiatrist
01:17:02
come in and talk about his condition which would have showed that he wasn't dangerous and this is what he was
01:17:07
dealing with at the time of the murder and it's like okay it's valid yeah to an extent for sure but it's like but but he
01:17:17
put her in a freezer anded around and just lived his life and spent her money that's the thing so I don't know if that
01:17:24
would have helped you to be quite honest I think they would have been like yeah this is [ __ ] up agreed Dr Frederick
01:17:31
Mir explained that in his opinion at the time of the murder Bernie was under considerably more stress than normal and
01:17:38
quote might have had some disassociative event that made him temporarily psychologically
01:17:44
degraded now in addition to that when they asked whether bony Bernie would pose a future threat to the community
01:17:50
the doctor stated it is my opinion he absolutely would not pose a threat or danger to inmates cellmates guards
01:17:57
anyone in that system uhhuh so initially the court of appeals Ru ruled that the lower court actually had errored in
01:18:04
their refusal to admit Dr mir's testimony into evidence but when it was sent back for reconsideration the
01:18:11
appeals court did determine that the error was quote unquote harmless and ultimately upheld the sentence because
01:18:17
it's like are are we really trying to say that like he was really stressed out more stressed out than normal so he
01:18:23
murdered someone pretty much cuz like I right now in this moment I am very stressed out I am I have a lot of stress
01:18:30
in my life I don't expect to get away with murdering someone because of it I that one's not no that I'm glad that one
01:18:39
didn't hold up and they weren't like well he was stressed out cuz it's like never an excuse for I I don't know about
01:18:46
that now usually that would be where the story would end in a typical case they said like [ __ ] you to the appeal and
01:18:51
then you said in prison the rest of your life yeah but as we know Bernie's case is far from typical no and there were
01:18:56
going to be some more twists and turns before it you know faded from the spotlight about a decade after Bernie
01:19:02
entered the Texas Department of Criminal Justice the story of margorie Nan's murder at the hands hands of the town's
01:19:08
beloved for mortician made its way to the desk of screenwriter Richard link l later now Richard had read skip
01:19:15
hollandsworth who um I've quoted here his 1998 article about the murder Midnight in the Garden of East Texas it
01:19:22
was published in Texas monthly I definitely recommend reading it but he approached hollandsworth about
01:19:28
collaborating on a screenplay about the case now the film you might remember it it wasn't too long ago it was titled
01:19:34
simply Bernie was released in 2012 do you remember seeing commercials for that oh my God yeah I haven't
01:19:41
watched it still I haven't either but it was a it was a pretty big movie and overall overall it was well received by
01:19:47
critics it was Jack Black yeah I think you're right actually I I hope I'm not remembering that that wrong but I feel
01:19:53
like that just popped into my head double check that for me but I want to say you're right I think it's Jack Black
01:19:57
as Bernie I feel like you're right yeah so the critics they liked the movie but in Carthage link Leader's Hollywood
01:20:06
adaptation of margery's murder was not as well received one resident said of the film if it was fiction it might be
01:20:12
funny but this was a real person in a real town and no I don't think it's funny at
01:20:16
all yeah that's the thing like it is Jack Black and the way it's played off on here from what I'm seeing is like
01:20:24
this looks like a comedy yikes like for I I didn't see it so I won't say it is but like the way they're advertising it
01:20:32
is a little comical oh don't love that very offputting when you know the actual story yeah so and district attorney
01:20:40
Danny Buck Davidson agreed s telling local news station KLTV he put Miss Nan in a freezer and then went and preached
01:20:47
in churches yeah if it was a dark comedy you can't make a dark comedy out of a murder you want to make make a fiction
01:20:54
story out of like you know I've SE dark comedies happen all the time fiction yeah like you made it up like it didn't
01:21:00
actually in fact on Google when you type in Bernie the movie and like this movie
01:21:05
comes up yeah Google says why to watch delightful dark and hilarious dude yeah like delightful dark
01:21:17
hilarious that's upsetting that's wild yeah that's on another level that just shook me yeah well
01:21:28
despite local criticisms of the film some people close to the case actually felt like it was an accurate portrayal
01:21:34
marjorie's nephew Joe uh Joe RH said there are little things in Bernie that aren't exactly true bits of dialogue and
01:21:40
name changed here and there but the big things the weirdest things happened exactly as the movie says they did wow
01:21:47
now more than 10 years after the murder occurred the residents of Carthage actually reconsidered their stance on
01:21:52
Bernie teed after that movie which is interesting that this [ __ ] Jack Black movie made these people change their
01:21:59
opinions uh Diane Davidson said the community has completely turned 180 degrees they want him to service time
01:22:06
wow wild but while locals had turned on the man they once rushed to defend austin-based attorney Jody Cole reached
01:22:14
out to link later to find out more about the story she saw the film and told him
01:22:19
it quote raised some issues I wonder about huh now like many people who had seen the movie or simply heard about the
01:22:25
case to her something just didn't add up like why marjorie's closest friend would
01:22:30
turn on her so quickly without acute provocation and how one of the area's most beloved residents could be so
01:22:36
easily convicted and receive the harshest penalty yeah which if you're looking on it from an outside scope I
01:22:41
mean I've said it this whole time this case is wild like I understand having questions yeah so attorney Cole there
01:22:48
ended up speaking with Bernie after reaching out about like the film's making and watching it and just having
01:22:54
questions upon questions yeah so she ended up talking to Bernie multiple times and eventually filed a writ of
01:23:00
habus Corpus on his behalf arguing that the jury had been prevented from accessing critical testimony that would
01:23:07
have likely influenced their understanding of the crime and their attitudes during the penalty phase after
01:23:13
several interviews with a clinical psychologist Cole actually learned and uh this is a trigger warning for sexual
01:23:18
trauma Cole actually learned that Bernie had experienced considerable sexual and
01:23:23
psychological abuse as a child oh which significantly influenced his cognitive cognitive ability at the time of the
01:23:30
murder according to Bernie Margery quote often demanded and ridiculed him and became critical and accusatory toward a
01:23:36
male Gardener with whom Mr teed had a clandestine sexual relationship oh so the effect they said was essentially
01:23:45
what one would experience in an abusive domestic relationship which ultimately led to margery's murder wow now a second
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psychological evaluation conducted by Dr Edward Gripen or gin actually produced similar findings in his report the
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doctor wrote after years spent repressing the effects of childhood abuse and hiding his homosexuality in a
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community he worried would not accept him Mr teed learned to compartmentalize his emotions allowing him to act
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normally for months after the murder so that can explain that yeah now given the
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extent to which Bernie's attitude and behavior after marjorie's death factored into his sentence
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Cole succeeded in winning Bernie a new sentencing hearing and he was released from prison on in May of 2014 and
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actually took up residence in link Leader's Garage in La while he awaited a new hearing what crazy Twist of events
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now in addition to the new psychological reports Cole also indicated Bernie's confession had more or less been coerced
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arguing that law enforcement officials threaten to release scandalous information to the public if he didn't
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tell the if he didn't tell the truth which is what we touched on earlier with those movies that they found now the
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allegations of both new evidence and a potentially coerced confession didn't sit well with da Danny Buck Davidson I
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actually really like this guy he told reporters a new hearing felt like the right thing to do considering the
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circumstances wow he said prosecutors are good guys and we're supposed to do what's right so he wanted to stand by
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doing what was right that's pretty badass now another granddaughter of Marjorie shanana Nan disagreed and told
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the host of The Today Show it just doesn't feel like this is right it doesn't feel like justice I get that and
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I totally get that her grandmother was brutally murdered yeah so Bernie's new hearing finally came in April 2016 and a
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new jury learned of his history of abuse and how it affected his actions at the time of the murder and in the months
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that followed defense attorney Mike deuren told the jury that Bernie quote killed nent because her abuse triggered
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the trauma he had faced when he was younger but it's still not okay to kill someone
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exactly they were trying to say like psychologically something Happ that wouldn't happen again for sure now the
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attorney also alleged that contrary to what the previous jury had heard about Bernie manipulating and isolating
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marjerie in the months before her death it was in fact Marjorie Who quote alienated most of her relatives and who
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had a reputation of being unlikable which is like oh we're going back to this again exactly thank you okay cool
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so the new jury deliberated for a little over four hours before returning with a
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sentence of 99 years or life in prison which weirdly feels like a nod to what her granddaughter said before that he
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deserved 99 years it does did y'all get together and help that girl out which like he deserves it he did kill her no
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matter what true so with the new sentence on the record Bernie was returned to the te the Texas Department
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of Criminal Justice to continue serving his sentence and he remains there to this day damn what a wild [ __ ] story
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that is a roller coaster it is and poor margerie that's the thing to to get the reputation that she not only got in life
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but in in death is just really sad like I know it doesn't sound to me like most people took the time to try and
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understand her what she was dealing with andz regardless of her attitude regardless of what it was or wasn't
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exactly nobody deserves that yeah that's [ __ ] up it's really sad and I just can't like I understand movies being
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made about you know big cases and all that like that's going to happen that does happen that's happened forever to
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make a case like this a dark uh delightful hilarious movie is like yeah whoa and I never saw it nor no neither
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have I and I genuinely like everybody who's in that movie I'm like I like those I'm like this it's like shocking
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I'm like this is strange it was an interesting to see it was an interesting decision because it's Jack Black Shirley
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mlan and Matthew mccon Matthew mccon like all three of them were like the like Shirley mlan plays Margery wow and
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it's like did nobody nobody looked into this like what it's it's just a strange move yeah but again I haven't seen the
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movie so maybe it's being described wrong maybe I'm not going to say I know anything about it cuz I don't I don't
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really have any interest in but very strange watching it just I don't either after hearing the story I don't want I
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don't want to watch it at all but damn wild so that is the tragic case of the murder of margerie nent and po margerie
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just the small town that really paraded around a man that yeah murdered someone he really he really manipulated
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everybody truly and he really placed himself in a position of looking like a hero yep and with that we hope you keep
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listening and we hope you keep it weird but not Weir that you oated an entire town into thinking that you're some kind
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of Hometown hero and realistically you're walking past a Frieza where you are holding the body of an elderly woman
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that you murdered 9 months ago don't keep it that weird you piece of [Music] [ __ ]