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hey weirdos I'm Ash and I'm Elena and this is [Music] morbid this is morbid yeah you know what
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I forgot what did you forget a couple like I think it was like last week this happened and I was going to say I'm Ash
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and that's big Anna over there big Anna and I never did it oh yeah cuz I took uh
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my kids to see Frozen live yeah and of course the girls were like you're going to cuz they wanted to dress up of course
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and then they were like well you're going to dress up Mom right and I was like I wasn't planning on it but now
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that you've mentioned it sure and I was like what should I wear I have an Anna gown from like their cuz I I was Anna
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for their birthday party a few years ago I have an Anna gown I do have an anag gown they wanted me to dress up as Queen
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Anna a couple years ago so I did it's Mom [ __ ] uh this was a few years ago so they were like oh wear your Anna gown
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and I was like first of all that's going to be a little tough cuz it's going to be crazy there first of all never second
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of all don't know if I can fit into that on awn still like it's one of those situations where you're like I don't
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know who knows like that was a few years ago you're like that's a gamble that I'm
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not really in the mood for today you know what whatever like bodies Chang not concerned about it but like I don't
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want to try to fit into it either no my day I was like you know what is there any other I was like how about I do my
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hair like Queen an so I did like the braid like the braid or crown thing and I was like and I was like is there
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anything else I can do and so they gave me like the The Cape the Queen Anna cape
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so like I was rocking out and we get there was rocking out Queen she send me a picture she's like Sunday mom [ __ ] I'm
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like eating breakfast at like 12:00 at my counter I was like what's up I'm on my way to Frozen [ __ ] it was great and
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we were in the bathroom which was I saw a a morbid mama in the bathroom she said
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it's our friend from morbid and I was like you didn't tell me that I did yeah I saw one of our listeners what and but
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it was so [ __ ] chaotic in there and I had all three girls cuz they all decided
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they had to go to the bathroom at the same time girls go to the bathroom and packs only one of them had to yeah it's
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just a girl thing but they did make me and John get all through the crowd and then John was like God speed and just
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waited outside and so we go in there it's just Mania and this and one of our listen who hi if you're listening hi we
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I was just like hey what's up and she like she got carried away by a crowd I was like bye fleeting anas in the night
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but when we were in there at one point this little girl looks up and she goes mama look it's big
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Anna I will only refer to you as big Anna from this point forward and I was like hell yeah cuz like they have like
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little Anna in the show and everything so I like not actual big Anna she told me this last week and I have been
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planning this for a long time I meant to do it last week and say we got big Anna
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on the mic we got big Anna here so I was like well yeah I am big Anna what's up what's it was great the girls loved it
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they were like that girl thought you were Anna and I was like n yeah maybe I am maybe I am who knows damn that's
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hilarious your dad's Norwegian perhaps remember when they used to look at you and or no they used to look at those
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little like matching cards and be like Mama Mama and they'd point they' we had like the Frozen matching cards and
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they'd be like Mama on Anna all the time and daa on the dad no it was on not Christ weirdly it was on Hans which I
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was like they'll love that for us John does not have mutton chops but like sure be a lot cooler if did cooler he
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did you hear that John some muton he's like goodbye uh he used to have some pretty sick uh
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not mutton chops but like he had like the like sideburns yeah like cool sideburns that were much bro you know
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pronounced uh but yeah so that was fun um and before we get into this you know our part two of Ed G here which uh by
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the way is going to be the gross part oh goody we just we just did some lunch so
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that's good yeah it's going to get just um blanket trigger warning over this entire thing cuz I honestly don't know
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how to insert enough trigger warnings into this thing I'll just be saying the word trigger warning 100 times and
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that'll annoy everybody and me yeah uh so I'm just going to say it right now this is a rough one we're going to talk
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about mutilation we're going to talk about some really horrible trinkets that he took from
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actual human bodies we're going to be talking about vulvas in a box wow so just like know that that's where this is
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going okay you know that that Karen has that says I have a stomach ache but I'm being Really Brave right now that's how
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I feel and I actually do have a stomach ache and I am being Really Brave right now you are so wow wow so wow uh but
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before I draw you know jump into that why don't I just give you a nice little uh Tik Tok recommendation oh I love
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those let's go I haven't done one of those in a little Whiley I follow this gal uh her name is Becky an gallentine
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because her uh handle on Twitter or Twitter rip uh Tik Tok is my bloody gallentine okay
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she's fascinating she's uh she collects her and her boyfriend I believe uh they collect haunted objects and they'll do
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these live streams where they kind of like you know have a camera on the haunted object they'll go through it
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really interesting [ __ ] they're just like a they have a really interesting collection she is so smart and so
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knowledgeable she goes through a lot of like historical you know Victorian death
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practices she'll go through like different really fascinating Graves around especially New England around New
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England that like you can find and all the history behind them she's just really knowledgeable she's really fun to
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watch I think she's great I think you should follow her it's she's very interesting let's go you know blow it up
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she's do what she got she's got a blue check she's killing it already but like you know like she's great so just go
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follow her she fun follow her before the Tik Tok goes away before the Tik Tok goes away get as much as you can uh but
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but yeah go follow her and now on to uh really horrific [ __ ] so yay everybody hang tight be really Brave now when we
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left you we were talking about The Disappearance of Mary Hogan The Tavern owner who uh Ed G had taken a liking to
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Yes uh she was gone Without a Trace as far as they were concerned we also touched upon The
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Disappearance in October 1953 of 15-year-old Evelyn harle uh she was the babysitter who
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disappeared and her father couldn't get a hold of her found that she wasn't there when he went to the house found I
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think her glasses and like shoes on the ground a blood trail leading outside like looked like she had been loaded
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into a car and taken away and like everyone was just going missing in this area yeah there was a lot of missing but
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that one in particular is going to come back okay at least a little bit so following Mary Hogan's disappearance it
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wasn't lost on many planfield locals that Ed was interested in the missing Tavern
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owner like people had seen that it was pretty obvious in fact whenever the subject came up in front of Ed he would
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say with a grin she's at the farm now I went and got her in my pickup and took her there I took her home and uh
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anyone look into that so he would just they'd be like oh you know like that Mary Hogan thing is pretty wild huh Ed
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and he just be like oh yeah she's at the farm now but he'd be like grinning like
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so they thought he was joking yeah we should always look into these things guys I'm just gonna say and knowing that
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he'd always been a little odd and he kind of said some weird stuff and everyone kind of thought like he's so
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shy nobody knew like I think a lot of people assumed he was also unintelligent because he was so quiet and a little odd
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that they didn't think he really they were like oh he's just saying things like you know you know what they say
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about assuming yeah so everyone just kind of brushed off the comments that like crass attempts at humor because
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they were like oh he's not really socially inclined well and also you were saying that the night she went missing a
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pickup was spotted in the area and he's literally saying like I put her in my pickup and took her home so like hello
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so that wasn't the only time Ed seemed suspicious to others there was also the time that the teenage son of local sto
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store owners Irene and Lester Hill told his parents of horrifying things that he
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had seen at gan's house oh Bob Hill was probably the closest thing Ed had to a friend when he was much younger than him
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um and he was one of the very few people who had ever been to the Gan Farm ever uh before or after Augusta's death so
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this was like a big deal wow and according to sheer um whose book we have Linked In the show notes it was one of
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those it was on one of those visits that Ed showed Bob quote a pair of Pres D human
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heads now come again the thing is Ed claimed these were genuine South Sea shrunken heads sent by a cousin who had
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fought in the Philippines during the war so he's saying like these are collector
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items kind of thingk question mark question I don't know how to even explain that like he's not saying like
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oh look at these heads that I took off people like it's like he's like oh these are like artifacts kind of thing um and
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Bob wasn't the only plain filled child to have seen the heads and he wasn't the only one to report having seen them in
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gan's house but like Ed's comments about Mary Hogan few if any of the residents really thought much of these reports as
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sheer points out in the book quote a set of shrunken heads from the South Pacific
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was exactly the sort of collectible you'd expect someone like Eddie Gan to own okay so this is
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weird but when you look at it like that when they're just kind of like yeah he's
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a weirdo like I would kind of you know like people are kind of like yeah sure like he would collect weird artifacts
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like that you can see why it might have been written off as him just being a weird guy yeah the only thing that I can
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say is I really don't understand thinking that it's just a joke that he's like Mary Hogan's at my farm no someone
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should have called him been like maybe this is a joke Ed's a little weird but like you guys might want to go check
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that out yeah that thing not being included cuz that's that's not just a weird guy like I'm always going to call
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someone I'm always going to ask about that when someone says like yeah I killed that lady but the quote unquote
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artifact kind of thing like or thinking it's an artifact I can sort of can see why that would be attributed to him just
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being a little weird and like odd and he likes strange things he's always talking
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about those weird you know fiction stuff he reads in non-fiction that's like very
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dark and scary and if you're at the house you're probably seeing those kind of things you're also seeing like the
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disarray that the house is in exactly so it just all like he's just a strange guy and that's
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a weird thing and I'm just going to move on but again the Mary Hogan stuff like we always say overreact check it out
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just overreact call some no one's going to get upset if they go out there and they say you know what we didn't find
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anything all right well at least we checked you know what you they probably would have found something they would
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have found a lot of things as we'll see uh in hindsight like we just said the residents of planfield probably regret
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not taking these things seriously uh but in 1957 like we're saying it now in 20 what
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is it four now what year we like where am I but in in 1957 very few Americans in the midwest or really anywhere else
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cuz remember this is the Midwest too um would very few of them would have believed their nebor neighbors to be
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capable of murder at all much less any of the other crimes that he ended up committing uh in fact the shocking
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murder and this will kind of put it into perspective a little more like TimeWise
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this helped me the shocking murder of the Clutter family in hcom Tech Kansas um you know detailed by Truman capote's
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book in Cold Blood that was still nearly 2 years away from happening wow that hadn't even happened yet and most
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believed murder to be something confined to you know on it like what they thought
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was the morally questionable or morally gray cities on either Coast not in the center of the
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country [ __ ] um but still I'm sure a lot of people look back and were like E I
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wish I had said something there like you know I don't know of course but again that's probably where their minds were
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we in the mid center of the country where it's supposed to be safe it's supposed to be quiet again the inkle
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blood clutter family murders haven't even happened yet which set off like you know Panic everywhere so you can see why
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people are just like that doesn't happen like people just murder people yeah what
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are you talking about this is a quiet town where nothing ever happens Keith Morrison is not voicing anything over he
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isn't yet now November 16th marked the beginning of deer hunting season in wasara County
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um and this was a time when nearly every man and boy ventured out into the woods
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hoping to bag the first deer of the season and with so many people headed out to the woods Ed figured the town
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would be virtually empty so it was the perfect time to put his plan into motion oh after he finished his breakfast
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around 8:00 a.m. he loaded a large gas can into his 194 7 Sedan and he headed into town stopped at a gas station to
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fill the can and from there he headed over to his destination which was warden's hardware and implement store
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now wardens had been a planfield institution since the 1890s and in 1957 it was owned and operated by 58-year-old
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Bernice Warden who was she was the daughter of the original owners um she would occasionally be assisted by her
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son Frank because Bernice herself had expanded the business so much H yeah that she needed help running the place
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cuz she was such a badass business lady love that um and like I Bice was a badass all around she was a business
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Beast like I said expanded the whole business needed actually extra help and she was a loving grandmother a uh she
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was known to be and said to be a little sharp tonged quote unquote love it but I
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think that's code for people not knowing how to handle an assertive woman who speaks her mind so they use like nasty
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verbage to describe her yeah because like they can't handle the Keat the heat so like get out of the kitchen exactly
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get out of Bernice's kitchen she doesn't want you there she doesn't want you there she was also an avid fisher woman
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fisher woman there you go Fisher person I was like Fisher person love it she loved to fish she was real good at it so
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she was like a a really well-rounded lady yeah people liked her she was really well respected she ran a badass
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business that everybody needed now also little tid bit about Bernice in 1956 she
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was the first woman ever to be presented on the front page of the local paper as
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the citizen of the week in Playfield wow yeah that's really cool yeah now like most of the men in the town Frank had
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gone hunting that morning her son yeah leaving Bernice alone to run the store that morning now Bernice probably wasn't
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surprised to see Ed g walk through the door that morning for the last several weeks he had been showing up pretty
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regularly to kind of just like annoy Bernice essentially and that day Ed explained he had stopped in to buy some
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antifreeze so Bernice filled up The Jug Ed had brought with him before taking his money and she wrote up a handwritten
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receipt then stuff the carbon copy into the register yeah so that transaction was done Ed left the store she was like
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cool that was easy peasy by but then moments later he returns and he's no longer carrying a jug of antifreeze this
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time though he said you know what I'd like to take a look at the new rifles that you have displayed on the wall and
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he was like I was just thinking today like I I might want to upgrade and he was like you know like can I see this
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one here so Bice handed him a 22 caliber Marlin rifle and he was like I just want
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to take a look at it and she was like for sure go for it for sure Eddie like why not like everyone called him Eddie
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oh really yeah and he so she walks away and she just walks over to look out the front store window into the street so
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her backs to him she's just looking out the window oh man according to Harold sheor Ed had recently come to believe
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that quote the 58-year-old Widow was a wicked creature deserving of divine punishment the evil antithesis of his
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own sainted mother yes such a saint Augusta of course Bernice had no way of knowing this uh and she didn't know that
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he was right behind her fishing in his shirt pocket for the 22 bullets that he had brought in with him to the store now
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that's this is also like to be clear because it's like he was aware of certain things that he was
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doing because later there's a lot of like sanity being called into question and for sure this man is sick for do not
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believe he is not sick but there's there's something very wrong here like there's there is some premeditation
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that's happening absolutely D I fully believe that he needed to be like put away and uh you know for help in like a
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hospital later because there was so many layers to his sanity and like you know beyond MH but these like moments of
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premeditation are what are very confusing you know and what confus a lot of people about him it's like what are
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you a monster truly and it's like how sick are you how sane are you like you really it's hard to judge uh so like
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again he came back asked to see this rifle knowing that he had brought the correct bullets in his pocket for this
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so she didn't even notice that he loaded the bullet into the Chamber of the Marlin rifle and he had aimed it at the
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back of her head oh my God so she didn't even get to turn around before he fired
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the shot right into the back of her head she's just looking out the window in her
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own store no idea that this she just thinks it's like odd odd Eddie yeah she would have no way of like thinking he
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brought his own ammunition why would that ever cross your mind why would she ever think that no one heard the sound
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of the rifle firing inside the store that morning but across the street at the Philip 66 station Bernard machinski
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I think it is did see the warden's truck pull out of the garage and the warden had wardens had like a pickup truck for
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the store um and that was a little before 9:00 a.m. he said he couldn't see who was in the driver's seat but he
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thought it looked like a man and it wasn't Frank Warden MH so it seemed a little strange to him that Bernice would
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have left for the day without turning all the lights off inside the store and so Bernard told Frank Warden all of this
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later that afternoon when Frank came back from hunting he was like I saw some weird stuff um and Frank was very
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confused he was like what do you mean like what no she wouldn't have left like and that wasn't me so as far as he knew
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his mother had intended to keep the store open all afternoon and hadn't mentioned any of these plans to go
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anywhere to him so he went to grab the keys to the store and then he returned to check on things as soon as he walked
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into the hardware store he knew something was very wrong obviously the store looked as though it had been
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partially ransacked the cash register was missing and there was a large trail of blood leading from behind the counter
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to the back door he followed the trail to the back door where he discovered that the truck was indeed missing from
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where it was parked um very concerned for his mother's safety Frank called Sheriff Arch Le and reported the scene
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and he explained everything that he had found inside the store and so Sheriff art was still new to the job so he
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wasn't really sure what he was going to walk into here so we called this Chief Deputy Arie Fritz and the two men rushed
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over to warden's store now while he waited for the sheriff to arrive Frank looked around the store just to see if
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he could find anything else and eventually he saw the receipt that his mother had written after Ed had bought
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the antifreeze I wondered if that was going to come back yep it was all the evidence that he needed to say Ed did
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this something happened Ed Ed was last last receipt he was like he's weird like and he's been coming he had been coming
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around more frequently kind of like almost like harassing her in a way like now once the sheriff and deputy arrived
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Frank showed them the blood and explained his theory uh Ed Gan had been hanging around the store kind of bugging
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his mother for the last few weeks and just one day earlier he had actually asked whether they sold
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antifreeze while he was there apparently Ed casually asked and this was like a day before Ed had casually asked Frank
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whether he planned to go hunting the next morning oh which obviously in hindsight Frank is like that's how he
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was confirming that Bernice was going to be alone that morning exactly although they weren't quite as
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convinced of Ed's guilt cuz remember Ed's just like the weird dude he's the babysitter of the town like everybody's
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just like he's I don't know he's weird he's shy like I don't think so even when they found all this [ __ ] people were
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like what like that guy like he just cuz he was so quiet right and like unassuming like he wasn't aggressive he
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wasn't like he's just weird like just like a weird Oddball so they were like I don't
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know about that but they trusted and the seat did confirm that Ed had been one of
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the only other people in the store that morning so they thought it best to go out to the gain Farm to talk to Ed Now
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by that evening a large crowd had gathered downtown and the deputies had rallied a team of local men to help find
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Gan uh cu the large crowd like they had heard about The Disappearance and you know this is a small town yeah so Ed
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wasn't that hard to locate when officer Dan Chase stopped into Irene Hill Store Irene Hill is the mother of Bob the kid
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who saw the shrunken heads in yes um she told him that Ed was at her house getting ready to drive Bob her son down
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to see what was happening in town oh wow cuz apparently Bob was like a teenager so he was like oh there's like some [ __ ]
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going down downtown like I want to go see it and he was like can you drive me and he was like
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sure wow yeah now a companied by deputy and I think his name is pokey Spees I'm pretty sure okay uh Chase made his way
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over to the hills house and found that Ed was just sitting in his car in the Hills driveway waiting for Bob to come
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out of the house so they approached the car and they asked Ed if he could just step out and talk to them for a second
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in the Hills driveway Chase asked Ed to maybe just provide them a quick little blowby blow account of his day up to
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that point so he explained he'd gone down to wardens that morning for antifreeze uh then he recounted his
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movements afterwards you know until he arrived at the hills house a short time earlier seemed like a normal day uh when
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he finished Chase was like can you go through that one more time and that was like a customary thing it was to confirm
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whether you're telling the truth like tell that same thing over again so the second account was a little different
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differed yeah and at least like one or two ways there was some differences which is weird so he said to to Ed now
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Eddie you didn't tell the same story come through there that second time and Ed stared at the two men blankly for a
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moment and said somebody frame me oh and Chase was like framed you for what yeah like we haven't said anything
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yet yeah he was like what are you talking about and he said well Mrs Warden she's dead ain't
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she and they were like uh how do you know and he was like oh well I just heard about The Disappearance while I
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was downtown and I assumed somebody was going to try to pin it on me cuz I'm like the town
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weirdo and they were like huh come with us you want to come with us real quick so they took him into custody now still
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hoping to find Warden alive at this point uh sheriff schle and Captain this is such a hard name to say Scherer I
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think it is Sherer yes the captain will say okay uh they decided to check the G Farmstead for any evidence of where
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berinice might be M like most people in planfield and Beyond neither of them had
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ever been to the G farm and they were shocked by the state and this is at night by the way they're they're coming
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to the G Farmstead at night no not for me so they try the front door it's locked so they
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start making their way around the side of the house trying to find a door or window that they could get into and they
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make their way to the door in the summer kitchen and it was hard to see much in the dark and there was Grime on all the
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windows so it kept the Moonlight out even oh that's really heinous and they had only their flashlights so they're
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navigating these piles of trash just debris that's cluttering the floor and they're only using flashlight like it's
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pitch black yeah and they step back to the sheriff steep back and like steps back and just sweeps his light across
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the room just to get a full SC feel and he bumped into something heavy as he backed up behind him and so he jumped he
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thought it was a person standing behind him it felt like that and he shines the light at what's in front of him now that
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he's turned around and it fell across the stark white body of a woman hanging upside down from the ceiling oh my God
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so Shea wrote quote the body was hanging upside down by its feet its front had been split completely open so that its
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trunk was little more than a dark gaping hole the carcass had been decapitated as
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though someone had sliced the head off for a trophy and they had been butchered like Mah heer or a dressed out
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deer oh so like an animal my God horrified by the sight of what he knew at this point was the body of Bernice
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Warden oh God so he stumbles out of the house and it's snow is outside and he just drops to his knees and begins
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vomiting uh yeah I would think so and this is like he's like new oh I forgot you had said that he like so he's like
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great a moment later the captain followed equally horrified like they were both and they're and he's like
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seasoned the captain yeah well number one imagine first of all you're going into this sh nasty place where there is
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Grime covering every single surface and there's trash everywhere so it already smells like a trash they were probably
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already nauseated and then you see that what like is a human and there's obviously crime scene photos of this and
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they are oh God brutal some of the most horrible you'll see I mean this is what he did to that woman is that's so sad to
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think that she was just like somebody's Grandma yeah she's just somebody's Grandma somebody's mom running a great
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business in town that's so scary yeah and just so like animalistic oh it's such an he treated her like an like a
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like a deer that he was dressing that he had hunted yeah yeah it's horrifying so
00:27:42
they radioed the station to report what they found and then they had to go back inside to start securing the scene which
00:27:47
I was like d and how do you secure that scene how now back inside The Summer Kitchen it was even worse than they
00:27:55
thought what is a summer kitchen I think it's like a Sunport PR like something like that I imagine
00:28:01
not positive but it's a farmhouse so that's what I see it as I'm going Google it um Bernice
00:28:07
warden's headless body was hanging by the ankles from a crudely handmade crossbar secured to the ceiling strung
00:28:15
up as one would butcher an animal and soon other officers arrived from the police and Sheriff's Department as well
00:28:22
as state troopers and the men from the county crime lab um and most of the men at the farm that night like we said like
00:28:30
a lot of them are seasoned law enforcement professionals and see they some seen some [ __ ] at this point but
00:28:36
none of them were ready for what they encountered in this house how could you ever be ready for that and what's Wild
00:28:43
is Bernice warden's body was only the beginning of it yeah so with only flashlights and kerosene lamps to light
00:28:52
their way again remember this is in the middle of the night like this is nighttime barely Moonlight coming in
00:28:57
this is the most ghoulish scene I could possibly imagine and there was no electricity at that farm I don't think
00:29:03
so holy [ __ ] that makes it even [ __ ] scarier and they just made their way through the door in the summer kitchen
00:29:09
and found that the interior of the home was even worse by the way a summer kitchen is a small outdoor building that
00:29:16
you can use like in the warmer weather interesting I'm glad you looked that up me too um cuz I always pictured it as
00:29:22
like a sun porch but it's sort of like it it's a different building I think it can attached to the I don't know it's
00:29:29
very confusing either way well every inch of the floor seemed to be covered in just Debris Boxes empty bottles old
00:29:37
newspapers magazines like trash debris a moldy magazine just all kinds of [ __ ]
00:29:45
there were also things that were just like even strange like everything was just kind of gross but like things that
00:29:51
are like weird too like there was a coffee can full of Wads of chewed gum ew like what what is the meaning of that
00:29:59
and that's where it kind of comes into the like are you something you know like something's going on M he's not sane
00:30:07
like there's no way this man is in his proper mind like it's just and I think he maybe had moments of clarity and he
00:30:15
himself kind of says he has moments of clarity yeah but he will say he doesn't like and and we'll see eventually that
00:30:22
the investigators do believe parts of what he's saying eventually because they like I really do think he black out
00:30:28
sometimes yeah because he would say he would like get these urges to go like rob a grave cuz we'll get into that
00:30:34
don't worry but and he get these urges and he said he would try to pray it away and sometimes it would work and then he
00:30:40
CU remember who he was brought up by that's what he learned yeah and so he said but sometimes it wouldn't work and
00:30:46
I would wake up and I'd be in the middle of digging into a grave and he said and
00:30:50
that happened a few times and I would just put the stuff back and I'd leave and go home wow and so they were like I
00:30:58
think that he like which is by no means justification for anything ABS but I don't think he's I don't think he's sane
00:31:05
he's not all there some some stuff is very wrong here he's a very sick man but you don't get to a place like this no
00:31:13
and have these kind of artifacts being found in your house without something being desperately wrong defitely there
00:31:19
something wrong definitely so there was like the coffee can of you know chewed up gum there was a shelf that just had a
00:31:26
bunch of yellowing and cracked Dentures all over it e and then there was a sink full of
00:31:34
sand that's weird yeah it was did he ever explain any of these things not like those things in particular but any
00:31:42
of like the weird [ __ ] that they found I think he was just like I just this is my
00:31:45
stuff sink full of sand yeah I wonder if that was like for like preserving I don't know things but either way this is
00:31:53
so this was already like what the [ __ ] is going on but then they stumbled on the real horse yeah so they sweep their
00:31:59
lights around the room some more and one of the officers spotted what appeared to
00:32:03
be a very odd shaped soup bowl that was sitting on a table and when he got closer and looked at it he said oh
00:32:11
that's the soff top of a human skull that's a skull cap that he's using as a bull I did not
00:32:20
know that like eating out of no yep oh my God and as they go through the house the investigators start making a list of
00:32:29
all these horrible [ __ ] ghoulish things that are scattered around his house and in the kitchen they found a
00:32:35
bunch of other skull caps being used as as Bulls wow um they also found several complete skeletons in the house
00:32:45
including two that had been stuck on Ed's bed posts quote as decorations what and those are from the grap Robin yeah
00:32:55
full skeletons my my God this is like that's oh it gets even worse okay elsewhere in
00:33:04
the house they found five heads full human heads flesh and all wrapped in plastic bags nine death masks made of
00:33:16
human skinned heads like so just like human faces y nine of them yeah drums made out of bone
00:33:25
and human skin several bracelets and belts made out of skin and hair and quote preserved female
00:33:34
organs okay hours later more men arrive at the farm and they bring like a large generator and some lights now because
00:33:42
they want to be able to see what the [ __ ] is going on at this point and or they have to be able to yeah they have
00:33:47
to unfortunately um and it somehow became more nightmarish in there because remember he's being fueled we talked
00:33:55
about this in part one by fantasies like wild fantasies yeah and also Nazi crime
00:34:01
literature right because remember we talked about that in the first part he's being fueled by a lot of [ __ ] up [ __ ]
00:34:07
here nightmare stuff and so he had fashioned his own lamps and other items from human skin yeah and in one drawer
00:34:16
officers found nine shriveled vulvas oh my God one had been painted silver and trimmed with red ribbon and
00:34:27
another another had been covered in salt what yeah there was also a Jar full of noses and an old Quaker Oats container
00:34:38
that H held various pieces of human head and face skin oh my God you would never be the
00:34:47
same like how do you just go back to your house after working this scene and eat dinner with your family I do I'm
00:34:54
like I wonder so much for these investigators truly I'm like you guys weren't okay after this no way and no
00:35:02
one was [ __ ] going to therapy back then no one was going to therapy back then so these men just left and went
00:35:08
home they probably just put that in the darkest place of their mind somehow and never Revisited it we talking about it
00:35:15
you can picture in your mind and you're sitting there going oh my God like it can turn your stomach just even thinking
00:35:20
about it being there is incomprehensible truly Inc is I can't imagine seeing that
00:35:28
no and then just having to go about your daily life after that yeah I mean you think about how scary it is when you're
00:35:34
in like a like a Haun like a Halloween haunted house that's exactly what this sounds and you're in the dark and you
00:35:39
bump into something and you're like H and then they shine a light on it and it's like this ghoulish little thing
00:35:44
hanging or something you're like oh my God that scared me and it genuinely scares you like your heart is beating
00:35:48
like crazy and you're like holy [ __ ] I had a fighter flight response in a h this is real life that man standing in a
00:35:56
pitch black filthy kitchen full of [ __ ] backing up to get a better View and backing into
00:36:04
Bernice warden's body like in a in a farm in the middle of nowhere yes in one of the worst possible positions you
00:36:12
could ever find a human body oh my God I just can't even fathom that no this the
00:36:18
fact that Ed Gan was a real human being is is really a thought it really is and they finally made their way
00:36:28
this is when they made their way into Ed's bedroom and found the skeletons attached to the bed post and probably
00:36:34
horrible other things and as sheer wrote uh wild as it seemed some of G gan's Lo
00:36:40
loathsome Creations were obviously meant to be worn there were several P pairs of pants
00:36:47
and leggings made from human skin oh my God as well as quote a garment fashioned
00:36:52
from the upper torso of a middle-aged woman which could be dawned as a kind of the most disturbing to the investigators
00:37:02
were the nine human masks which appeared to have been carefully removed from each skull and
00:37:11
left on display that's so scary a bunch of them were dried and almost mummified others looked like he had
00:37:20
tried to keep them fresh because he had rubbed oil on them and some still had lipstick and
00:37:26
makeup on oh God because they had like lips and right their cheeks had Rouge these are real human people were oh my
00:37:35
God that's like there's not even words but then he had cut the eye holes out so they were just like these gaping eye
00:37:42
holes that's so scary that's the I'm like I don't know how you leave this place and ever sleep again no you would
00:37:49
have that's how do you I didn't even think of that I'm like how you sit with your family how do you go to bed yeah
00:37:54
you close your eyes what the [ __ ] are you dreaming about that must haunt you truly truly haunt
00:38:00
you cuz sometimes I'll have nightmares about like cases that we cover yeah like if I think too you don't even see Brady
00:38:07
and Myra Henley yeah that [ __ ] me up for a long I had horrible nightmares about that and that was just me hearing
00:38:13
a description or seeing horrifically like seeing like a picture of somebody you know what I mean
00:38:20
like I which again like I'm doing that my can I need a quick little side note just to take us away from this for a
00:38:27
second why not just to travel cuz I also want to know if anybody else feels this way I
00:38:31
wish I had this ability I have this thing where if I have an image in my head or visual in my head that I don't
00:38:38
like and I want to stop thinking about it I just in my mind like a dry erase board or like an etcha sketch almost
00:38:46
like just wipe it away and I visually see the image get wiped away that's really interesting with an eraser and
00:38:54
then I can pretend it doesn't exist B just has the paint tool in her brain it's not there anymore that image that I
00:39:00
just thought back to from the Ian Brady and Myra Henley case it's gone I don't have that and I can just like I can like
00:39:07
literally like like um kind of compress it into a different part where I don't I
00:39:14
I'm not going to it's not going to pop into my head anymore unless I call it back the more I think about like wanting
00:39:21
to get rid of an image in my head like that the more stays I think that's a that's common I think I don't know when
00:39:28
I started being able to do this but I that's interesting it's helpful I mean it's a coping mechanism for sure it's a
00:39:34
it's a helpful thing to have because like those kind of things I I just can't yeah luckily I can't remember that one
00:39:40
particular thank God cuz that ruined me for a long time it's gone anytime like it gets brought up I just
00:39:45
go yeah and I don't have to think about it anymore wow we even we took a minute away but I was still there yeah right
00:39:52
like that was just this is a gnarly one um yeah so in his bedroom as well Arie Fritz found
00:40:00
a large motheaten horsey robe hanging on the back of the door wait what like horse skin
00:40:07
robe oh um when he took it off the hook on the back of the door he discovered that inside of the folds of this robe
00:40:16
was a horse skin yeah like a horse hiide robe I guess um it was there was a brown paper bag
00:40:25
and it had something inside of it this was like full folded into the robe okay so he looks into the bag and and he just
00:40:31
kind of like shines the light in there and he said he saw what looked like a mass of Long human hair connected to
00:40:37
what looked like skin so he reached inside and he grabbed what it was by the hair uhhuh and pulled
00:40:44
out whatever was in the bag and it was revealed to be the desiccated head of Mary Hogan oh the
00:40:52
tavern now that was shocking oh my God yeah and that specific would change you fundamentally as human on a molecular
00:41:01
level you would be a changed human I can't even imagine now a large team of men work through the night and well into
00:41:07
the next morning going room by room Excavating what truly felt like just an endless infinite amount of human bones
00:41:18
maob trophies any manner of Horrors you could think of they were finding and they must
00:41:24
have had to take like shifts like you need to go take a minute yeah just emotionally physically
00:41:32
spiritually exhausted like and how are you calling out what you're finding you how do like exactly like I okay I found
00:41:44
like especially the guy who opens the drawer and is like um I've got nine vulvas in this drawer like how do you
00:41:50
communicate you don't just yell that like you're just like am I seeing what I think I'm seeing can somebody come look
00:41:55
at this and make sure and then did they have to have people come out and confirm
00:41:59
what was what no they just kind like they that's when they go to the crime lab too to like you know all the testing
00:42:05
on it and make sure yeah so early the next morning they finally made their way to the boarded off section on the first
00:42:12
floor of the house and that's early the next morning they finally got to that boarded off section totally boarded off
00:42:18
and that's Augusta's room right well that's so they Pride the boards off and they open the door into what have M it
00:42:26
must have felt like to them and they described it this way that like it felt like a portal yeah like cuz it was just
00:42:33
like because unlike the rest of the house which is a [ __ ] nightmare right Augusta G's parlor and bedroom it was
00:42:40
like her bedroom in a little living room which was always called The Parlor back
00:42:44
then um pristine condition right cuz she was super clean she was super clean there was a thick layer of dust covering
00:42:51
everything obviously but they said that you would have thought that he had just organized the space before they got
00:42:57
there like it was brand new like never touched and they didn't know it at the time but they were the first people to
00:43:04
step into that room since Augusta's passing wow he had boarded that thing up exactly how she left it and never opened
00:43:11
it up it was just preserved it's so creepy and they said they walked in and it was just like what the [ __ ] is this
00:43:19
that's where the Norman baits of it all comes yeah like the preserving Mama kind
00:43:23
of thing especially that being the backdrop to what you've just been through that it's like it's [ __ ] up
00:43:30
these people are going through this house like we just talked about go seeing the worst [ __ ] you could ever
00:43:36
conjure up in your darkest imagination then to pry that thing open they probably thought they were going to go
00:43:42
into something even gnarlier even gnarlier in the dark sense like that they were like oh [ __ ] like what are we
00:43:48
going to find in here and then they opened that up and it must have been so [ __ ] unsettling cuz you're just like
00:43:54
what is this like why is this un perfect like why is this boarded off and like what is going on yeah so Elsewhere One
00:44:04
of the lead criminologists had set up a workstation and started photographing and cataloging all the just gruesome
00:44:12
items that were found in the house it's also really fun to me side little Trek that it's like the 50s to hear like a
00:44:19
criminologist it that I don't know I'm like just like wow look at look at look at I SC yeah when you said the lab I was
00:44:26
like damn what 1957 I think I mean it was it was like in its infancy infancy but it's
00:44:32
still like wow like that's wild that was like still a thought process um so he started photographing to Bernice
00:44:39
warden's body while it's and he had to photograph it while it's still hung from the ceiling oh that's horrific um and
00:44:45
then he went on to the other organs which were found all around um her heart was found in a plastic bag sitting in
00:44:52
front of Ed's stove her entrails were later discovered wrapped in an old newspaper and folded inside an old
00:45:00
suit uh it took some s some time but eventually they found Bernice's head yeah uh which had been put in a burlap
00:45:07
sack and was just stuffed between two old mattresses in the corner of The Summer Kitchen weird and awful right and
00:45:15
it's just like no there's no Rhyme or Reason to any of this but like it's but everything is just everywhere why is it
00:45:23
in between two mattresses and aapse out like what was the thought problem which I know we're never going to understand
00:45:28
that thought process nobody's going to understand that but it's just like when you look at it at face value you're just
00:45:34
like what what why did you put her head there but obviously you know finding her
00:45:41
her head was discarded of very callously in a burlap sack shoved between two dirty mattresses like what the [ __ ]
00:45:49
that's bad enough but when they took it out of the sack the technician realized quote what
00:45:56
Ed had done was take two 10 penny nails bend them into hooks connect them with a
00:46:03
twoot length of twine and stick one nail into each of Bernice warden's ears this
00:46:09
way the head could be hung in his bedroom as a trophy or wall ornament like you would hang a deer
00:46:19
head wow so he was planning to mount her head on the wall like that's a person as a trophy that is a person a person
00:46:31
that you saw daily and that was nice to you like kind to you yeah she was kind to like she was totally fine with him
00:46:39
even then even though he was annoying her she still everybody was like she was nice to him like she never treated and
00:46:44
she wouldn't have she didn't she wasn't an un that kind of person and I just can't get past the fact that that she's
00:46:49
somebody's grandmother yeah and like for her son to know what happened to her that's that's beyond you're like you're
00:47:00
never the same after somebody is murdered I can't imagine like knowing somebody that was murdered and
00:47:05
especially having it be like your mom or loved one but like this oh and just mutilated desecrated afterwards we're
00:47:12
sitting here saying and it's still valid how do the detectives move on in the crime scene analysts but her son to know
00:47:19
that this happened to her I can't and then to just have to like raise his kids still yeah it's like what do you do what
00:47:26
do you tell you know like how do you cope I don't know but finally 12 hours after Frank Warden had stopped into
00:47:35
check on his mother law enforcement officials and crime scene technicians had finally finished just the first pass
00:47:42
at the crime scene um there would be more evidence to collect as they went back but for now the sheriff and his
00:47:48
deputies wanted to talk to edgein yeah uh did they honestly nothing he would ever say could really
00:47:58
explain what they saw in that house even a portion of it yeah so it was like I don't really know what we're going to
00:48:04
get here but where do you start so after his arrest in the Hills driveway Ed was
00:48:09
taken to the nearby town of watoma where he was locked in a jail cell in the back
00:48:14
of the county courthouse so the sheriff entered the courthouse hoping that Ed would have
00:48:19
made a full confession by the time he got there but what he found out was that Ed really hadn't said much of anything
00:48:25
since they picked him up he was pretty quiet um still very haunted by what he'd just seen at edgin's Farm shelle entered
00:48:33
the cell and immediately grabbed Ed and started slamming him against the concrete wall three deputies tried to
00:48:41
separate the men and they ended up being able to before any real damage was done
00:48:46
but if the sheriff was trying to which I imagine he was trying to like scare or knock a confession out of him yeah it
00:48:53
did didn't do much because he got even quieter he just after that he just turned complet
00:48:59
because he was pretty quiet before he would like kind of say something every once in a while nothing relevant but
00:49:03
like he was talkative a little bit but after this he just shut right down wow and you know after what shle has just
00:49:10
been through and all of them had just been through at the house seeing the Monstrous things of this man like taking
00:49:16
Bernice warden's head out of that burlap sack finding Mary Hogan's head in that sack and this is a small town like
00:49:22
everybody knows everybody like this whole police force GRE up The Tavern is a place everybody goes
00:49:29
they've seen these women their whole lives like to see what was done to them and and to bump into Bernice warden's
00:49:35
body hanging from a ceiling like that and completely gutted I can't say I blame him for throwing this man against
00:49:42
a wall like I the rage he must have felt the exhaustion the stress the trauma and
00:49:49
the rage that he was probably feeling walking in there and seeing this little [ __ ] just sitting there being like I'm
00:49:53
not saying anything every horrid emotion you could ever feel up into one oh I can't it just
00:49:58
exploded so he's being quiet Ed won't say a damn thing and in the meantime the cor coroner Dr F urger began his
00:50:07
examination of Bernice warden's body um and he was detailing I mean considerable
00:50:12
mutilation that it occurred postmortem thankfully but but a scheme of things um and again it it all happened postmortem
00:50:22
but and it had been done very methodically and with a lot of precision it wasn't like hacking away and like you
00:50:28
know ragged cuts and stuff he was very it was like a hunter yeah um from the report this is what it says uh first
00:50:36
that the entirety of Bernice warden's vulva and surrounding areas were removed and kept in a box uhhuh uh the body
00:50:44
cavities had been completely eviscerated together with most of the diaphragm inspection of the trunk and extremities
00:50:50
revealed how the body had been hoisted by the heels there was a deep Cut Above This is going to be rough cuz I'm
00:50:56
talking about how oh he did it so like just know that yeah there was a deep Cut Above the Achilles tendon of the right
00:51:03
leg and a pointed crossbar made of a rough wooden stick covered by bark had been forced underneath the tendon oh my
00:51:10
the other side of the crossbar had been tied to a cord which was tightly fastened to a cut of the leg above the
00:51:16
heel this cut had severed the Achilles tendon and had necessitated the tying with the cord to hold the body securely
00:51:23
to the crossbar the length of the crossbar was estimated as about 3 ft both wrists had been tied with longer
00:51:30
hemp rope to the corresponding ends of the crossbar attached to the feet thus holding the arms firmly when the body
00:51:36
had been suspended by the heels the thoracic and abdominal viscera had been separately kept wrapped in
00:51:44
newspaper and hidden in a bundle of old clothing these viscera consisted of both
00:51:49
lungs and the trachea the aorta from the base of the abdominal bifurcation the esophagus stomach small en llarge
00:51:57
intestines with mesentary and momentum at the B at the to the lower rectum and block where with this were removed the
00:52:04
spleen pancreas adrenals kidneys with the urits upper half of urine bladder and internal internal genital organs
00:52:12
excuse me separately removed had been the heart without the pericardium and it was put in a plastic bag and her liver
00:52:18
was also separate okay that's a lot of work yeah it's a lot of work that took him a long time to methodically do that
00:52:26
they weren't just torn out like this and why also the medulla alanga which is the
00:52:32
connection between the brain stem and the spinal cord appeared to had been ripped out of her neck and that portion
00:52:37
of the spinal cord was never found interesting so a shocking report to say the least but the most
00:52:46
significant findings that were discovered during the examination um especially of her head um it showed a
00:52:54
round hole at the back of the skull about 6 cm above the hairline um but other than the bullet hole at the back
00:53:01
and the postmortem damages caused by those 10 penny nails there was no additional signs of trauma having been
00:53:07
caused to the Head okay so it was the shot from the right um but the coroner did notice that there was blood in both
00:53:16
nostrils which he said was because of the bullet entering her head right um there was no exit wound and once x-rayed
00:53:24
they found the 22 caliber bullet lock Ed in the skull just above the right eyeball wow based on him his examination
00:53:31
he concluded that the gunshot was the sole cause of death and it was fired from a short distance away and she
00:53:37
likely had died within seconds to minutes after being struck God now the Corner's report included no unexpected
00:53:45
or shocking revelations after they had looked at the crime scene because they had found all of these body parts
00:53:50
everywhere in organs um but in the original notes on the examination those like um the person that was transcribing
00:53:58
his notes for him was his wife who was also his secretary the coroner yeah and she had jotted down like just kind of
00:54:06
like her thoughts on the report as well which was strange like she wrote sex Slayer and The Battered
00:54:13
Beauty on the back of the notes strange and Sher notes what makes the phrase so arresting is its utter in
00:54:23
congruity in the context of the postmodern report the notaker notation has the shamelessness of a tabloid
00:54:29
headline yeah indeed her attempt to come up with a titillating catchphrase for the crime anticipates the kind of
00:54:35
treatment that the Gan Horrors were about to receive in the Press oh God now given the number of Law Enforcement
00:54:41
Officers out at the G Farm like some having come from far away as Chicago wow uh the local press and residents knew
00:54:48
something [ __ ] massive had happened there but they had no idea the details yet the first news accounts started
00:54:54
trickling out slowly on the afternoon of November 17th which is like mere hours after they left the farm uh it was just
00:55:02
saying that Bernice Warden had been you know abducted she had disappeared and that she had been murdered and her body
00:55:07
had been discovered on the G property yeah there was no mention of the state of her remains or any of the other
00:55:14
[ __ ] horrific [ __ ] they found on that farm though that would come though yeah
00:55:18
once the details were released the town of planfield and honestly the entire state of Wisconsin at that point was
00:55:25
horrible ified by what they were hearing everyone started referring to the home as the murder Factory and like the den
00:55:32
of death uh the rumors went rampant even somehow making a unthinkably horrific situation more horrific I'm like I don't
00:55:42
think you guys need to do that no you don't it's pretty bad on its own in their first press conference on the
00:55:48
story wasara County uh County district attorney fielded questions from the Press but they really didn't have a lot
00:55:55
to say when it came to like motive they were like I don't think there's real like tangible motive here like there's a
00:56:03
lot of scary [ __ ] and I don't really know if we're going to understand why this happened this person is just simply
00:56:08
Disturbed yeah they were able to uh match the uh fingerprints on the Marlin rifle used in the shooting of Bernice
00:56:15
Ward and two edgin so they immediately were able to match him to it um and what they said was he probably picked up the
00:56:22
gun from the rack and shot her as she looked out the window yeah and it's like okay yeah I guess um that's what the
00:56:30
district attorney Earl kylen told reporters um and he had actually been present for Ed's interrogation so he
00:56:37
offered a little bit of insight into gan's Psychology from his point of view psyri attorney um didn't really do a lot
00:56:45
to explain what they found but according to uh according to what Ed said he said
00:56:50
quote he was in a days when he butchered Mrs Warden similar to the blackouts that
00:56:55
occurred while he robbed Gra so he did admit to shooting Bernice and M mutilating her body but he could not
00:57:02
recall the killing or the mutilation that followed he said that he quote only remembered dragging her body from the
00:57:07
store okay so during the initial interrogation Ed had admitted it was possible he had killed others possibly
00:57:16
but then he dropped another strange bomb cuz he said the additional human remains
00:57:20
that they found in their house were things that he had collected at random from cemeteries that's what he said and
00:57:26
they were like wait what like what was that and he admitted for the last 5 years he had been making nocturnal
00:57:31
nightly visits to local cemeteries he said he didn't always Rob Graves sometimes he would just go uhhuh but he
00:57:38
robbed Graves a lot of the time and then he would just leave whatever he didn't want in the grave and cover them up and
00:57:44
according to him he left them in apple pie order no yep he's like I just took what I want put everything back left it
00:57:51
in apple pie order no yep that's it's terrifying now he didn't just open Graves willy-nilly
00:57:59
apple pie order apple pie order that'll change apple pie for you yeah thinking of Ed Gan saying it the way he knew
00:58:07
which Graves to go to cuz he didn't just like willy-nilly open Graves uh he would
00:58:12
read the recent obituaries in the newspaper and he would find the bodies of newly dead middle-aged women or
00:58:20
older like Mama Augusta uhhuh and in fact many of the women he he knew them when they were
00:58:27
alive interacted with them and [ __ ] and now he kept their skull caps as bowls and their skin as lampshades in their
00:58:35
heads and bags and did he admit that like he was going after people that looked like his mom or reminded him of
00:58:41
his mom he admitted it but he didn't see I don't think he himself connected the Deep psychology behind that but he like
00:58:49
he would like oh yeah she looked like my mother or like I wanted like he admits that like he basically wanted to keep
00:58:59
his mother around and that's why he made that like skin suit of like a middle-aged woman yeah cuz wearing it
00:59:04
made him feel like his mother was still there so like he wasn't there when he was wearing it he was his mom he was
00:59:12
mind like his mom was was there again that's How Deeply deeply [ __ ] up this guy is yeah like he is levels levels we
00:59:22
will never get to the bottom of what's happening with him that's okay and they of course asked him because there
00:59:28
was all these rumors of cannibalism that that had gone around out of nowhere those are the ones that like making a
00:59:33
truly horrific situation more horrific yeah I mean he's eating out of skull bowls he is so it's not a far-fetched
00:59:38
thing to ask they asked him did you intend to eat your murder victims and Ed said no and so kylen said on that point
00:59:47
he still has a lapse of memory so he didn't know if he had or not yeah at first like at first he was like no I
00:59:53
don't think so but then I think they push further and he was like and he just like stopped answering it so I think
00:59:59
they were like oh like he he doesn't remember I guess um but even though that like that's what happened so there's no
01:00:07
confirmation in that moment of like whether he was or not cuz at first he said no then he just kind of didn't give
01:00:13
an answer but kylen went in front of reporters and was like it appears to be cannibalism like you what like you need
01:00:21
to find just because it's like why make it even more Sensational you don't need can't 100% say that for fact and it's
01:00:29
unclear why he felt confident enough to claim that as motive for the crimes cuz then he's using it as like that's the
01:00:34
motive to eat people and it's like I feel like that's a jump especially like with everything that was left
01:00:42
and uh like put out for decoration yeah that's the thing and it's like maybe they and I I'll give it to them maybe
01:00:48
they just couldn't figure aut motive what else are you going to come up with that I there's there's really no
01:00:55
boundaries in this case so it's like is that really crazy to think about and as the news spread all over the country
01:01:03
locals in and around planfield struggled with the idea that this man that they had hired to fix their roofs and babysit
01:01:11
their children kids was a grave robbing murderer and now potential cannibal with
01:01:18
a house full of the most horrific things you could possibly imagine there was an
01:01:22
editorial published days after the news all broke and it was marola the planfield son who say stated that he
01:01:29
wouldn't believe the rumors of grave robbing until those Graves had been opened and found empty he said people
01:01:34
are still stunned by the greater crime the killing of Mrs Warden to think much about grave robbing um but he also noted
01:01:41
that people around town were kind of relieved by the arrest of course because they had been pretty like jittery is how
01:01:48
they put it since The Disappearance of Mary Hogan right so they were happy that like there wasn't a killer running
01:01:53
around the streets anymore you know yeah but after his confession investigators took Ed with a gaggle of reporters to
01:02:02
the farm and had him give them a stepbystep tour of everything no thank you where he had disembed his victims
01:02:09
where he had thrown the blood out behind the out house all that stuff wow the photos are available photos of him being
01:02:16
walked around oh okay um they're just weird because everyone's like everyone there was like he looks so small and shy
01:02:23
and just like a country dude with a deer hunting cap on cuz they were just walking him around
01:02:27
everybody there was like even the reporters were like it's weird he's just like this mild mannered little guy in a
01:02:33
dear hunting C like he looks like any old guy walking down the street and sheer wrote it was almost impossible to
01:02:39
believe that such a meek-looking fellow was by his own admission and in the strict sense of the term a ghoul yeah
01:02:47
soon after all this investigators felt that there may be a thread to pull for another case to possibly connect Ed G to
01:02:56
the Abduction of Evelyn Harley the 15-year-old babysitter taken from the home she was babysitting at and never
01:03:03
seen again one of the reports said that among and this is horrific among the body parts that were found uhhuh one of
01:03:11
them appeared to have been from a younger woman and not a middle-aged woman and there were clippings of
01:03:17
Harley's case found among Ed gin's things like clippings of like the investigation and that's weird
01:03:24
Lieutenant Vern Weber was the chief of detectives of the lacrosse PD did a press conference where he spoke about
01:03:30
this possible connection um shoes were found at the heartley abduction scene and they were size 11 and a half but he
01:03:37
said gin warn eight so that would be like a pretty big discrepancy like he'd be walking around flopping around with
01:03:43
those shoes yeah um there was apparently a denim jacket left at the scene that had a stripe left on the back of it like
01:03:49
a harness was worn with that jacket on like almost like a painter would use or a logger or something like that
01:03:56
Ed was a handyman and he was a sometimes logger and he would wear a harness to get up into trees um so they were like
01:04:03
that could be his but they never really reconciled that correctly like they were
01:04:08
never to prove if it was him or not it just was one of those things that like it could be it kind of does fit with it
01:04:13
um he also told the Press he would be checking out gan's Alibi about being out doing odd jobs the day Evelyn
01:04:20
disappeared okay they were also sending all the teeth and heads out to be compared to Evelyn's Dental charts yeah
01:04:26
just in case right now along with the Evelyn Harley connection Weber also had to spill some more details about what
01:04:33
was fil found in The Farmhouse yeah he told reporters according to Shear there were 10 women's heads some with eyes and
01:04:40
some without and that a few of them quote were complete with skulls and some were just
01:04:46
skin he said they were found everywhere like behind chairs and furniture and [ __ ] and they were remarkably well
01:04:53
preserved Gan had told them that he cured the heads and a brining solution e uh Weber also said he saw with his own
01:05:00
eyes a chair made out of human skin and he mentioned that Gan had told him he prayed himself out of a lot of his urges
01:05:07
but would sometimes come too and he'd be in the middle of digging up a grave or something and that that was when he
01:05:13
would stop uh he also was very adamant that he never ate human flesh so he told detective Weber I never ate human flesh
01:05:21
okay um and Weber said he believed him okay he did say that he did believe the motive was cannibalism I don't think
01:05:28
there was a motive I don't either I don't know if I believe it or not I mean I guess maybe you who knows but Gan
01:05:36
claimed to him that when he was younger he wanted to be a doctor he had dreams of becoming a doctor and so his grave
01:05:42
robbing was a matter of scientific curiosity he like to dissect human beings to see what's inside uh Weber
01:05:50
ended the conference by saying quote he is a very sincere and meek fellow you'd never believe he would be the kind of
01:05:56
guy to do such a thing you feel like he needs help awful bad yeah I would say so
01:06:01
and for an investigator to say that usually they're like [ __ ] this guy come on like this guy's like he needs [ __ ]
01:06:06
help like there's something wrong here to most people in planfield Ed was known as the not too bright but pretty
01:06:15
harmless guy who helped them out and liked to babysit kids hate which you look back on that now and you go oh [ __ ]
01:06:22
ha that hate that hate that so the idea that he could be capable of literal worst acts that the human brain can
01:06:28
conjure is just Unthinkable reporters seemed eager to track down literally anything that had
01:06:34
any other view of Ed beside like he's just this harmless dope in town kind of thing like everybody just said the same
01:06:41
thing so uh just a few days after uh Bernice warden's body was discovered reporters published an interview with a
01:06:48
planfield local named Adeline Watkins who claimed that she had carried on a 20-year affair with it
01:06:57
she said so she said everything that the papers are saying about him couldn't be
01:07:01
true not the guy that she knows she said he was so nice about doing things I wanted to do that sometimes I felt I was
01:07:07
taking advantage of him okay now described in the papers as a quote severely plain woman with gray
01:07:15
bangs and horned wor glasses that's a imagine being called severely PL not even just plain Jane s Plain Jane she
01:07:24
claimed that she and gan had gone on regular dates weekly for two decades and shared a love of books among other
01:07:31
things she said we never read the same ones but we like to talk about them anyway and she said Eddie liked books
01:07:37
about lions and tigers in Africa and India I never read that kind of book and their relationship according to her came
01:07:44
to an end in 1955 when she said no to his proposal of marriage she said that night he proposed to me not in so many
01:07:52
words but I knew what he meant which I was like m and she said it was very important for
01:07:58
her to make clear to the press that she didn't refuse to marry him because of anything to do with him she said I
01:08:03
turned him down but not because there was anything wrong with him it was something wrong with me I guess I was
01:08:08
afraid I wouldn't be able to live up to what he expected of me huh is there any truth to this so
01:08:16
everybody was just kind of like huh what like like what and a day later Adeline gave another interview to the L field
01:08:26
son where she described the relationship in a little different terms like suddenly it switched a little he wasn't
01:08:33
like the perfect guy it wasn't like this whole thing so now she's being scrutinized of course people are like
01:08:38
wait a second what did and suddenly the story fell apart and was determined to be completely fabricated she just made
01:08:45
that up she just made that why would you ever want to be like yeah I dated that guy she wasn't just severely plain she
01:08:51
was severely [ __ ] up [ __ ] up she uh so what they said later was she had quote Fallen victim to the Ws of the big
01:09:00
city press the city papers were hungry for human interest news so they played up the innocent innocent enough
01:09:06
relations to spin the story the truth is her his relationship with Adeline Watkins was super casual if they had
01:09:15
even met at all yeah like they might not have ever met I believe that um and she
01:09:21
would go on later to claim that the stories reported about her and Ed in the papers were completely false what the f
01:09:27
and was like I don't know where they came from somebody just pulled that out of their ass so that so now we are at
01:09:32
the point where everyone has spun this story like the cannibalism rumors are coming out
01:09:39
making it worse Ed's claiming he never tasted human flesh that was not something he did but the rumor mill is
01:09:48
going crazy now we have people coming out of the woodwork saying that they were in a 20 plus affair with him when
01:09:54
the man never left his [ __ ] Farmhouse except to like babysit and do odd jobs and then would just like rot in that
01:10:01
house we've discovered the hidden Augusta room that has been preserved we found the most horrific [ __ ] in the
01:10:08
world in there we have found Mary Hogan's head but now they need to prove that he murdered her and not that he
01:10:14
just somehow procured her head yeah obviously they believe he did but they need to find proof of it they have the
01:10:20
proof of the Bernice Warden murder right but that's where I'm going to leave you
01:10:25
for now okay for part three because you know what I think everybody needs to digest what just happened here horrible
01:10:31
choice of words yeah I know wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow yep some of yall are just going to go to work now
01:10:42
yeah I'm sorry about that that's crazy I'm sorry about that but we'll be back for part three it's a story it's
01:10:51
certainly a story it's true it's unfortunately true that was morbid uh we hope you keep
01:10:58
listening and we hope you keep it weird but not so Weir that you lie about dating Ed ke cuz that's a weird [ __ ]
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Choice yeah don't do that that's what I got out of that that's all you got out of that
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