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Hey weirdos. I'm Ash. And I'm Elena. And this is Morbid. Okay. Did you guys catch that? That
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actually was not Big Red. I mean, I do a pretty good impression if you ask me. But guys, Big Red is feeling not so not
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not big good. She's kind of feeling big bad, I would say. So, I'm here to introduce this episode on the ones and
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twos all by myself. I actually feel probably the weirdest that I've ever felt. I think I recorded one episode by
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myself like way back in the laundry room days. And it's very weird to just stare
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at your computer and not another person. So all you solo um podcasters out there,
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I really give you a lot of credit because how do you do it, honey? Okay, before we get into today's case, which
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is going to be a little revisit, I believe this one is the med uh medieval torture episode, which like wow, we're
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really throwing it way back there, dolls. I think this might be when I asked if eagles had what did I say?
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Cubs. If eagles had cubs. So, the good news is I'm more educated now. They don't have cubs in case you're not as
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educated as me back then or the same level of educated that I was apparently. Anyways, uh before we get into today's
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episode, we have two pieces of exciting news for you. Numero Uno is if you're not on the social media, you don't know
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the big cool news. We partnered with Huntter Killer who was one of our actually not one of our very first
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sponsor on this show. So that is like the coolest thing ever that like this is just such a full circle moment. We
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collabed with them and we've been working for the past like I don't even know how many months but months and
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months and months of work has gone into this and we developed a game with them called the Salem Slicer. I mean can you
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think of a more perfect name for a game? The Salem Slicer like that has Elena and
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Ash and Hunter Killer written all over it. So that is our new game collab. It's available right now for pre-order at
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Walmart, which is really freaking cool. Never did I ever think I'd have a game in Walmart. It is a very, very fun game.
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There's all these clues. You have to solve this murder. It's from the 1980s. It's obviously based in Salem. So,
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basically, the game starts with this young woman named Abigail. She finds this box of evidence basically in her
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father's attic. And all of this evidence and like all these newspaper clippings and these kind of just like weird
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snapshots, I guess you could say, are in this box in her dad's attic and they're
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all tied to the Salem Slicer. And she's like, "Hold up. Is my own father, my my flesh and blood father the Salem Slicer?
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Like that would change our lives because this case is way back in the 1980s." So
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Abigail starts investigating and now it's your turn to start investigating because you need to solve the case of
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the Salem Slicer. And if you think that that sounds like the bee's knees, if you
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think that's just the coolest thing in the world, which like you definitely should, then you need to head over to
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Walmart to pre-order the game. Elena and I are so stoked about this. So that's that. That's one piece of incredibly
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exciting news. And guess what? It's not over, doll faces. I got more for you. I truly feel like I'm hosting my own radio
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show just like in the dark right now. It's really weird to talk to you guys completely by myself. But I love you. I
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feel close to you like this. So, second piece of news is Nicholas. Listen, listen. I know Nicholas is a
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controversial figure, but most of you love Nicholas. And if you say that you don't, I think you're maybe a little bit
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of a liar. Maybe a little bit of a liar, honey. I don't know. Or maybe you just don't know how to have fun. I'm just
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kidding. If you don't like him, it's fine. But if you do like him, this is really good news for you. There is a new
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shirt on the Morbid website officially, and it is a Nicholas shirt. It is dedicated to our boy in the afterlife.
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So, go check that out. Go pre-order the Salem Slicer and wish my [ __ ] big E. I
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never call her my [ __ ] Why did I just say that? My sister. She's my sister. Um, wish her healing vibes. wish her
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healing vibes and so that she gets better soon because I don't really want to cut your stomach bug and I also hate
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staying away from her and most of you are probably sick of hearing me alone. So maybe you're not. Maybe you love me.
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I love you. All right, without further ado, let's get into the case. Hey weirdos, I'm the iron maiden
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>> and I'm the brazen bull >> and this is morbid >> medieval. Pass the mutton. Huzzah!
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>> Burn some heretics. >> Is this a competition? >> No, I won. >> Woo! Ka and our sound's a little better.
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>> Yeah. Do we sound crisper? >> Shout out to our bro Aiden. >> Yeah. >> Does he listen?
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>> I think he does. Okay. >> I'll make him listen for this one. >> Yeah. My nephew Aiden. He's amazing. And
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he let us take his fancy pants microphone >> and his microphone is way cooler than
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our $30 one. >> So, we're going to buy this microphone. >> We are going to buy it and you'll never
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have to hear crappy audio. >> Exactly. So hopefully from now on we're going to have crisper, cleaner,
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beautiful audio. Well, there was another kind of exciting true crime update this
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week >> for a real bad guy. >> You know that you always say he was a bad guy. >> He was a bad guy.
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>> A real bad guy. >> Real bad guy. I do say that and it makes me laugh every time you say it
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>> cuz the bad guy. >> I'm just very simple with my descriptions. I'm like bad dude, man.
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>> Bad boys. Bad boys. What you going to do, dude? Oh, we might get sued for singing that. Let's not sing that.
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>> Well, I didn't finish it. I didn't finish it. >> Well, this bad guy is a real bad guy.
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>> He's a bad Larry. >> And he's the one that we premiered our podcast with. >> Joseph D'Angelo, the Golden State
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Killer. >> E, >> who is also officially the Vaselia Ransacker, too. They've officially said
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that he's that guy. >> I mean, we did that. >> And one of the big things this week was
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that he was charged with a 13th murder. We had mentioned in the episode that he there was a possibility that he was
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involved in the killing of Claude Snelling who was shot while he was stopping the kidnapping of his
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16-year-old daughter. >> Oh my god. >> And he died. Um he was a community college teacher. He's officially charged
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with that now. So that's good because that family deserves >> When does the trial do they have a date?
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>> I don't know. I >> I want to watch it on TV. >> I'm waiting with baited breath. But
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>> do you think that it will be televised? Um, I don't know. >> That's all >> to be honest.
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>> Well, it'll be on like a snap or like something later. >> Yeah, we'll find out about it later for
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sure and we'll hear all the updates. You know, Nancy Grace will be on that [ __ ]
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>> Oh god. >> But >> that gives me anxiety. >> I mean, he unfortunately can't be
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charged with any of the burglaries or rapes because there's a [ __ ] statue of limitations on rape,
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>> which >> So, he can't be charged with any of the rapes. >> He's not charged with any of them. The
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statue of limitations But it makes >> it just makes me so angry every time I see it cuz he's charged with more than
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50 rapes >> and he's just >> I know he's going to go to jail until he dies, >> but it's like and he's like 400 now. But
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it's like I want him to be charged with those. And I'm sure those victims of the
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rapes would want him to be held accountable for him. >> They should give them at least some
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recognition. Hopefully the judge says something like, "If I could, I would." >> Like a ceremonial charge. Sometimes they
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do like you know what I mean though like judges can say like >> oh yeah >> if I could I would.
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>> If I could I would. >> Like there was I forget what case it was but she was like if I could I would
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sentence you for life but I'm not allowed. >> Yeah. I can't remember. >> And she basically was just like
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>> oh in the Joel Riiffken case remember he the judge was like you're a disgusting
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monster. >> Mhm. And I want to make sure I think he said like I want to make sure that you
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never see freedom in this life or the next or something like that. Like it was something very poetic
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>> and very like >> Yeah, boy. >> I I'm not thinking that one though. I'm thinking of a different one and I'm like
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watching it in my head right now. >> Are you thinking of the woman judge from the um
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>> Yeah, I know exactly where I'm Larry. >> The doctor. >> Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. remember she
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went on like this big long rant and it was like through the letter that he wrote that was bitching about how fair
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it was. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, I hope something like that happens. >> We're talking about the the US gymnast
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doctor who is charged with like a billion sexual assaults and rapes cuz he's a monster.
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>> Sad [ __ ] guy. >> But yeah, so that's exciting true crime news. >> Hell yeah. But for today, we're going to
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bring it way back. We are taking a trip in the way back machine, >> which always says that she would not do
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if she had a time machine. >> Oh, I would never go back to the Middle Ages. That is not That is not If you
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were like I don't even think it's safe for like dudes to go. >> Well, do you know what I was going to
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say? It's really not safe for >> I almost just said I would only go back if I was royalty, but then sometimes
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even royalty >> sometimes your head gets chopped off in Yeah. >> Yeah. Especially if you're a woman,
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you're really Women are really not safe. >> Yeah, I wouldn't go back there. I also
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wouldn't go to the future. >> No, I don't I don't know what to expect. >> No, >> I'd go to like the 70s and the 80s.
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>> I'd go back to like the '9s. >> Yeah. I feel like we're in the '9s. >> I'd go watch like Are You Afraid of the
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Dark? >> Yeah. >> And just chill. >> Actually, realistically, I'd just go back to when I was like 10 so that I
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wouldn't have to work anymore and I would just stay there for a while. >> Just chill for a little while. or I go
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to the future because maybe someday like I'll just like have my partner. >> You just said you weren't going to go to
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the future. >> No, I just But I was reing your plan. >> I would take a sneak peek.
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>> Yeah, there you go. >> And then if it was real bad, I would go real >> step out.
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>> Yeah. >> Sniff around, see what's going on, and then get right to >> But if I could be lazy in the future,
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I'm all about it. >> Oh, yeah. I think everybody would be all about that. >> Take me there.
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>> Who doesn't want to be lazy? >> Yeah. >> Yeah, >> I want to be lazy. mail. >> The mailman just came and scared the
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[ __ ] out of me. >> Okay, >> so there's that. >> Yeah, guys, we're actually um recording
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in the middle of the day, which is weird cuz we never record in the daytime. >> And I love that we're like more spooked
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out during the day. Like at night, >> we're very much like moon dwellers. >> We are like the sun's out. I'm like,
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what's happening? Why is it so bright? >> I'm in all black currently. >> This is the worst. Sabrina, the Teenage
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Witch is on the television as per us. >> Literally. Should we should we jump on in to
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>> so in 57? No, I'm just kidding. >> Today we're going to be covering various methods and devices used in torture.
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>> Oh, yeah. So, this is kind of we're going way back cuz these aren't >> not that I know of at least used.
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>> And if they are, I don't want to know. >> Except maybe one of them, but we'll
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cover that later. >> I kind of have animals. >> Just do it. Actually, it went away.
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I really had to. >> All right. So, should I start? >> Yeah. Where Ash is going to do hers and
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then I'm going to do a list of mine >> because guess what, weirdos? Ash did some research this week.
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>> Ash researched. She's serious. >> At the top of the page is the brazen bull. >> The brazen bull.
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>> That's my first um what's it called? My first like >> torture device. >> Device. My first torture device. And it
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was invented somewhere between 570 and 554 BC. >> BC. >> So like way way back. >> Yeah.
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>> It was invented by Perilos of Athens. >> Perilous is a great name. >> Perolus. Perilos.
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>> Perilos. >> Perilos. >> It's like goatee. >> He's just like periling. >> It sounds perilous. So it sounds like
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>> Well, just wait. Actually, >> you're dangerous. >> Dangerous. Dangerous. >> Perilous. So, Perilous was a bronze
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worker and he designed the Brazen Bull to execute criminals in a super chill way.
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>> Yeah, sounds pretty chill so far. >> Actually, I'm kidding. It was really [ __ ] up.
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>> Oh, that's weird. >> Yeah. So, the Brazen Bull was a legit statue of a bull and it was hollow but
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made of bronze. >> That's pretty. >> So, I read an article on all that'sinteresting.com
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and the article was really interesting. >> Yeah, that you know what, that website
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has all that is interesting. >> Yeah, it actually does. >> Yeah. But it was described as a human
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crockpot >> on this on this website. >> That sounds delicious. >> And potentially the most [ __ ] up
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torture device in history. >> Yeah, cuz I use a crockpot often >> for humans, >> but I don't normally put humans in.
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>> Yeah, it's just like a like celebratory. >> Usually I throw some like chicken, some
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veggies in there, >> right? >> But after this, maybe I'll give it a shot. >> Yeah. I hope it's not with me though cuz
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you need a podcast host. >> That's true. >> Okay, cool. Bye. Yeah, it won't be for
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you. >> All right. So, basically in ancient Greece, there was a colony which is a
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Craig or Krogus. >> I love it. >> Um, it's not Sicily. So, >> I like that better.
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>> Just Sicily. >> I'm just going to call it Sicily. >> Yeah. And it was ruled by a tyrant named
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Faris. So, don't get yourself mixed up. There's Perilous. There's >> Faris. It's a lot of peas.
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>> All right. He ruled with an iron first. >> Wait, wait, I just got confused. >> Not too far. Okay.
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>> Perilous foris. According to Aiden, we don't need a pop filter on this. So >> So that's exciting.
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>> Hopefully we'll pop. >> Yeah. So we can go and it's not gonna piss you off. >> Your eyes got wicked wide, which is kind
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of terrifying. >> So Faris was a giant [ __ ] >> I felt like he would be, >> but Perilos was like, "Oh my god, I'm
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going to make this brass ball torture vice and my master is going to think it's super dope
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>> because he's a big dick." Yeah, he's a dick and I'm gonna make him a dickish invention so that he thinks I'm looking
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cool. >> Yeah. >> So, >> I see his train of thought. I'm with him. I smell what he's stepping in.
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>> So, how he designed it is that the person gets put inside the bowl and then a fire is lit underneath.
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>> Ah, the crockpot aspect. >> Yeah. So, basically the poor mofo just like burns alive.
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>> Fun. >> Yeah, it's it's really chill. I wonder if they have like a low and high setting
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like a crock pot where you can like simmer them on low for a little while. Well, I think in that case you would
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just make a small fire. >> Oh, there you go. >> And then you could just keep adding wood
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to >> fire. So then you would get you would get more tender meat. >> You know, this was BC. It was like they
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had to just work with what they had. >> Yeah. >> But I feel like they were on it.
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>> No, this is like some like modernday [ __ ] Like I was like, Perilous, how did
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you come up with this? >> Who you be paralyzed? >> Like how'd you know this? So he designed
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it so that the pipes and whistles that he like put inside the bull convert the screams of those inside to sounds of a
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bull snorting and grunting. So this poor like so is like but the people on the outside are like
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like that's what it sounds like. Is that what a bull sounds like? >> The bulls just walk around going
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>> well. Can you do your best bull impression then please? >> I like that one to be honest. I'm just
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picturing bulls walking around being like, >> "Well, bulls are mad. They're just like
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grunting." >> [ __ ] you. >> I like that he foned it though. Like he made it fun.
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>> He did. >> He literally added the bells and whistles onto it. >> Well, so you know, he made it really
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fun. >> Yeah. >> But supposedly he was the first victim of it. >> Oo, saw that coming, I feel.
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>> Yeah. He told Farisaris, sorry, I just totally lost my train of thought. That's
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fine. Um, so supposedly he told Fararis, "Goodbye." >> He told that guy. >> So he said to this guy, "His screams
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will come to you through the pipes as the tenderest, most pathetic, most melodious of bellowings."
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>> Ooh. >> And Faris was really disgusted by that because he was messed up, but he was
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like, "That's messed up." But he was like, "I have a line." >> Yeah. And you just went way past.
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>> Every tyrant dictator person has a line. >> And this was part of Fellaris' line. So
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he was so disgusted that he threw him inside. He threw Perilous inside. >> And in my notes I wrote, Floris was so
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disgusted that he threw Faris inside. >> But he threw Paralos. So he just jumped
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right in there. >> He just threw himself. >> He's like, "You know what? Goodbye,
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cruel world. Light that fire. >> I hate that people like you exist. I'm just jumping in here."
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>> Yeah. No, he threw Paralyos inside to test out the sound system >> just to just to test it out.
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>> He wanted to know. We're just going to give it a shot, >> but >> we just want to adjust the sound.
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>> Yeah. Just like >> adjust the bass and the tempo a little bit, >> right? >> Jump in there real quick.
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>> You know, just like let's let's see what we're working with. >> Yeah. >> So, it's unclear if he got pulled out
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before he died inside or if he was killed after. But either way, Flores had Perilous killed.
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>> I imagine he probably did it in the Brazen Bull because they were like poetic as [ __ ] back then and they were
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like, "Oh, you made this, so we're going to burn you in it." Well, either way he
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died because >> I just thought of something really gross. >> The smell. >> Well, that but also, can you imagine
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being the person that has to like clean inside of it between people? >> Do you think they even did that?
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>> Probably not, but it's like when you open that thing, it's probably just like
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people juice all up in there. >> Yeah, >> that's nasty. Maybe they just like emptied it out into like I mean the
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person who wants to empty that [ __ ] out. >> They just throw their poop in the street
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back then. But it's just like >> I just >> you just like turn your head the other
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way and toss it out the window. >> You know what it is? I have like this weird thing where I don't like wet food.
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>> No, that's not a weird thing. >> Like when you know how when you put a plate in the sink like someone will put
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a full either and food gets soggy. >> Yeah, >> that >> like the stuff that gets caught in the
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drain for a long time. >> Rips me out. I can't. So, I just imagine like soggy people and that's that's real
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bad. >> That's kind of like how raisins remind me of old people. >> Exactly. Yeah, it's exactly the same.
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>> I just I don't know. You said soggy people, so I thought of just like really old people.
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>> You thought of saggy people. >> Yes, >> I see where the connection was made. >> Okay, so the next one is the Iron
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Maiden. The Iron Maiden. >> Not the band. >> So metal. Is that one of their songs?
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That's definitely one of their songs. >> I don't know a single sounded just like
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it. >> I'm sure. >> Yeah. >> Asha did a really good air guitar up by her shoulder.
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>> Well, I'm really >> It was like an air violin. >> Oh, it was like one of those people that
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you watched. Two cellos. >> Yes. I love two cellos. >> Yeah. I bet they could cover an Iron
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Maiden song. Now I'm just itching my >> They probably have covered an Iron Maiden song now that I think about it.
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They've covered an AC/DC song. Thong. Oh man. All right. Well, we're not talking about the band. This is the
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torture device. >> Yeah. And it comes to you straight from the likes of Miss Trumbles the Chokey.
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>> Oh snap. Bringing it back to Matilda. >> And if you don't get that reference,
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then get out of my face. >> I also thought that you were going to say it it comes straight to you. Like it
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>> Yeah, it just somebody throws it right at you. >> And I was like, well, at least it does
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that. No, it doesn't. So, it's an upright sarcophagus to get started. >> Oh, okay.
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>> With spikes. >> Already. This sounds okay. >> Yeah. It's like comfy. Yeah. >> You just go and take a nap inside.
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>> And you just avoid the spikes. >> Yeah. Except >> But once you're placed inside and the
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doors are closed, the strategically placed spikes placed spikes pierce several of your vital organs.
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>> I mean, was there an ant on you or something? >> No. I thought there was something. It's
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Things are happening right now. We're in the daytime. We don't know how to do >> We don't function in the daytime.
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>> I need the moon. Yeah, I need some bats fluttering by. I feed off the energy of
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the moon. I feed off the energy of the moon. >> We have an exciting announcement and now
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you have to listen to the whole rest of the podcast cuz we're going to announce it at the end.
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>> Okay. So, it like your vital organs. >> Is the moon coming on your podcast? >> Yes.
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>> We're having an astronaut on the podcast. >> The actual moon is coming. >> What's that guy that your cat your kids
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like? Scott Kelly. Scott Kelly is going to be on the podcast. >> My two and a half-year-olds are obsessed
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with Scott Kelly. >> Yeah. >> So, there's that. >> But, um, vital organs, spikies.
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>> Yeah. No good. >> But, >> no good. >> The spikes weren't long enough to make your organs shut down immediately.
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>> That's unfortunate. >> So, you just bleed out. >> Oh, >> yeah. >> Yeah. >> No, I'd just rather it all be boom.
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>> Yeah. It would take like I mean I'm sure you know how >> you just stand there
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>> bleeding >> slowly have your [ __ ] organs poach >> shut down >> and like >> well you know juice floating out of your
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>> well you know like when you >> floating like it's floating in front of you >> when you go to like like when something
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hits you you move back so then you probably just you're back into another one and then you try to move forward so
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every >> claustrophobic >> yeah I just took a breath >> so this might make you feel better. Oh,
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good. Sometimes people argue with the Iron Maiden as fact or fiction. >> That kind of bums me out.
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>> Yeah. I I mean either way it like >> it was it >> it was a thing. And if it was a thing
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back then, they used it. >> Well, and we're the worst species ever. >> So, I'm certain it was used because if
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all of these other ones were done, then I mean, this one isn't even as bad as some.
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>> No, it's really not. Okay. Well, these are a few accounts. >> Okay. >> So, in the 1700s, German philosopher
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Johan Phillip >> Johan Senis. >> Woo. You're welcome. I like it. >> Wrote about a coin forger, which I think
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is just somebody that like makes fake money. >> Yeah, that makes sense. Just forges
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coins out of metals. >> Yeah, cuz like if you think like she forged a check, like you write a bad
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check. >> Like you're just like a fake ass check. You're a fake ass house. >> Fake ass [ __ ]
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>> Yeah. >> So he was in >> That's what he was. >> So the guy that wrote about this, Johan.
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>> Oh, motorcycle just drove by. You probably heard that. >> Well, you know, I just can't stop the
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outside. My neighbor got a motorcycle and I'm so happy for him. >> Which neighbor? one down the street.
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>> Okay. Elena has this neighbor. I'm 100% sure he doesn't listen to the podcast.
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>> He is like the nicest guy and he's so funny and his laugh is literally I'm going to
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>> the most contagious laugh you've ever heard >> and it bellows throughout the neighborhood.
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>> He almost Okay, I started watching Dog the Bounty Hunter again the other day because actual trash.
00:23:03
>> I don't know if I can support support it. It's a great show. I'm not going to
00:23:07
support >> I was raised watching Dog the Bounty Hunter. >> Wow. >> Yeah. which says a lot about how I was
00:23:12
brought up, but hi mom. >> Um, so anyways, he sounds just like Dog the Bounty Hunters laugh.
00:23:18
>> I've never heard Dog the Bounty Hunters laugh. >> Well, it sounds like the impression that
00:23:22
sentence correctly. So, how far out of that I >> My favorite part of yesterday's episode
00:23:27
that I was watching was Beth had a necklace on that said Big Daddy. >> I I hate this.
00:23:32
>> It's the most disgusting, horrible thing ever. >> I hate this. >> But she calls him Big Daddy.
00:23:38
>> I hate it. >> Okay, I'm done. I hate it a lot. >> Where were Where was I going with your
00:23:43
neighbor? I don't know. I was saying that I'm very happy for my neighbor who got a motorcycle recently.
00:23:48
>> Yeah. >> And um I don't know if like the sarcasm is registering >> over the podcast waves, but not super
00:23:57
psyched about it. >> All right. So, the coin forger got executed there. >> He got executed in the Iron Maiden in
00:24:04
the city of I think you say Nuremberg. >> Nuremberg. >> Nuremberg. which is >> seems like proportionate
00:24:10
>> punishment. >> Yeah. Like >> like I don't know. >> He probably just could have did some
00:24:15
time in the what's the thing where they put your head and then your >> the stocks.
00:24:18
>> The stocks. >> Just throw them in there for like a couple days. It's fine. >> Yeah.
00:24:22
>> All right. So around that time, iron maidens began to appear in museums around the US and Europe. Bless you.
00:24:29
>> According to one article I read, >> you go bless you. A man by the name of Matthew Peacock, which seems legit,
00:24:36
>> Paulions. Paul Onions and Matthew Peacock write a book. >> They hang. >> They're Yeah. In the 1800s.
00:24:43
>> Yeah. >> Well, Matthew >> I bet Paul Onions has transported through time. >> Yeah. He's seen some [ __ ]
00:24:47
>> Yeah. >> He escaped Ivan Mallet. >> He's had to have traveled through space and time
00:24:52
>> probably. Well, Matthew Peacock spent the 1800s collecting paintings and torture devices.
00:24:58
>> Same. He had a wide variety of uh of interests. So he allegedly pieced an Iron Maiden together from pieces of
00:25:06
other torture devices/random devices and he gifted it to a museum where people went crazy over it because they thought
00:25:13
it was a real Iron Maiden. >> Yeah. They believed it. >> What a turd. >> Yeah. But here's my favorite one. This
00:25:20
one. Okay. You know how like folklore isn't always true? >> Yes. >> I feel like this isn't true, but I want
00:25:26
it to be true. >> Oo. >> It's just a little too advanced for the time of 100 BC. I don't know. They were
00:25:32
pretty They were pretty on it back then. >> All right. So, this account comes from
00:25:36
Greek historian Palibius. >> See, and I know him and he always tells the truth. >> Oh, okay.
00:25:42
>> So, you can believe. >> How do I pronounce his name? >> Exactly how you did. >> Palibius.
00:25:46
>> Exactly. >> Lived around 100 BC, like I said, and claimed that Spartan tyrant Nabis or
00:25:52
Nabis. >> Oh, yeah. I know. I know that guy. >> Yeah. Well, did you know that he
00:25:57
constructed a mechanical likeness of his wife, Aega? >> That is really advanced fur.
00:26:03
>> Um, but it was an iron maiden version of his wife. >> What the [ __ ] >> Supposedly, so if a citizen refused to
00:26:10
pay their taxes, he would like trick them into coming to his royal courts or whatever it was back then.
00:26:16
>> And then he they would think that like his wife was coming to join them. >> But [ __ ] mechanical wife.
00:26:22
>> Yeah. But she had to like wheel over. So I'd be like, um, first [ __ ] giveaway.
00:26:27
She's on wheels. >> It's It sounds like the uh Return to Oz, the Wheelers. >> Yeah. Well, it just sounds ridic.
00:26:35
>> So they would think that his wife was there cuz they're really [ __ ] dumb apparently.
00:26:40
>> But and then somehow basically he would like spring them into her embrace where
00:26:45
they'd be impaled by the iron nails that covered her arms, hands, and breasts. >> I mean, that sounds legit.
00:26:51
>> Yeah. I was just >> I believe it fully. >> When I was reading it, I was like,
00:26:56
>> I don't know. >> Like something is off here. >> Maybe I missed something. >> I don't know.
00:27:01
>> Yeah, it sounds legit to me. >> I believe it. I believe P. You know that guy.
00:27:06
>> Well, maybe they I mean they debate if it's still around, but the [ __ ] crazy
00:27:10
stories are still there. >> That's awesome. >> Yeah. Iron. >> So, that was the Iron Maiden.
00:27:13
>> The metal Iron Maiden. >> Yeah. Uh my next one is the boots. >> Oh, dust boots. And then, okay, so
00:27:21
there's um two methods that I found in both of them. I don't know if it's like fortunate or unfortunate.
00:27:27
>> You don't die. >> Oh, it's never good when it ends with like this is just torture, not going to
00:27:34
die. >> You're going to walk away from or you're going to crawl away from this or slither
00:27:37
away from this. >> Seriously. Okay, so in the first method, the victim has boots placed on their
00:27:42
feet made of spongy leather. >> That just sounds nice. It just sounds like It sounds like soggy food. Oo,
00:27:49
spongy leather. Soggy food. It's like moist. Old people raisins. [ __ ] you. The
00:27:54
word moist doesn't bother me. >> Is that why you keep saying it? Moist cake. That's what I think of. Moist.
00:28:01
>> I think it's just the nasty ass look on your face that ruins it. That That word
00:28:05
only bothers me if people say it in like a yucky way. Like, I'm moist from being
00:28:10
outside. >> Yeah, that's not cool. I don't want people to be moist. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. That really that that brown it
00:28:18
somewhere that I >> Yeah, I just meant sweaty. >> Well, that's what I mean. >> Yeah,
00:28:23
>> that's So, you just brought it somewhere. >> I meant sweaty, too. >> So, the boots.
00:28:29
>> Yes, boots. >> Um, spongy leather. They're then tied up with their feet by a fire. Things get
00:28:35
pretty serious pretty quick is what you're saying. >> No, they're just trying to make them
00:28:38
relax. >> Here's some boots. Warm your feet up by a fire real quick. >> Yeah, just like hang out. Yeah, but then
00:28:45
I'm going to pour this boiling water onto your boots. >> That [ __ ] that escalated quickly.
00:28:51
>> So then that water seeps through the leather and dissolves the flesh. >> And it said it dissolves the bone too.
00:28:59
>> Uh I don't think so. >> It's really hard to get rid of bone. >> And then in some cases, wood was placed
00:29:06
inside the boot, like probably like on the top and the bottom. And then they would pour oil inside to expand the wood
00:29:13
and cut off the circulation to the foot. >> So they like smush it is what I thought.
00:29:17
>> Yeah. That like cuts it all off. >> Yeah. So basically your feet are just real gnarly.
00:29:22
>> Gross. >> From then on. >> And then in the second cut off circulation long enough it'll they'll
00:29:26
die. So you just have like these necrotic nasty feet. >> Yeah. Their feet will die. But they
00:29:31
won't >> Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Their feet will die. >> Oh yeah. >> Gross. Dead feet.
00:29:36
>> I'm just looking at my feet now. Ouch. I know. I'm like cradling my feet right
00:29:42
now. My hand. I'm like massaging it like you still there. >> You're there. You're okay. Don't listen.
00:29:46
Don't listen. I'm not putting you in any boots. Don't worry about it. >> Okay. Well, the second version, cradle
00:29:51
your feet a little and your shins a little tighter. >> Oh. >> So, they would place the victim's legs
00:29:56
between two planks of woods and then they would tie it together with cords. >> Oh, I already know. And then between the
00:30:02
cords, the torturers would place wedges, which they would then violently hammer into the shins of the victim.
00:30:09
>> So, thus creating them wood boots. >> Oh, >> those aren't boots. That's not cool.
00:30:19
>> It's like autistic license. >> That's like hobbling like from a misery. >> Yeah,
00:30:24
>> that Stephen King novel. >> That sounds horrible. >> It's a great movie with Kathy Bates.
00:30:28
>> Okay. Okay. Well, each time a wedge was hammered, a small portion of the shin
00:30:32
bone shatters. >> And then they would hammer at least a dozen wedges up and down the legs.
00:30:37
>> Oh my damn. >> So like your whole tibia >> Yeah. Your tibia would just fall. >> It's just done for. Like it's it falls
00:30:44
apart. >> So then your legs are just like jello legs. >> And you just have bone shards floating
00:30:50
around. >> Would you die? >> Which you'd eventually get an infection >> and die? probably cuz anytime they got
00:30:55
an infection back then got real >> because they had nothing to fix that. >> Well, so and anyways they were unable to
00:31:01
walk after that so they probably just >> you just slithered away and then died from infection.
00:31:06
>> Mhm. >> Sounds good. >> So that was the boots. >> That's boots. >> Next one is going to piss you off.
00:31:11
>> Uhoh. >> The scold's bridal was a gruesome torture instrument worn to prevent women
00:31:17
from gossiping. >> Godamn women. >> Just like a big [ __ ] you to guys back then. Like I can gossip if I want to.
00:31:24
>> I can talk [ __ ] if I want to. >> I gossip all day every day. >> That's You are a hair stylist. That's
00:31:30
part of your job. >> I mean, you're not wrong. >> So, basically, the term speaks for
00:31:35
itself cuz back in the day, scold was like a derogative term for women >> or like a woman who was constantly
00:31:42
displeased or like nagged too much. So, like you >> I was just going to say, >> just kidding. And then the bridal is a
00:31:49
headpiece designed for a horse. >> I was gonna say, isn't that like a horse? >> Yeah, the bridal is.
00:31:54
>> So already that's that's nice. >> So it's to direct it when you're like riding.
00:31:57
>> Yeah. >> The device is an iron muzzle enclosed in iron framework that would surround the
00:32:02
head of the accused. >> That sounds like that thing and saw. >> So the intention was to prevent the
00:32:08
person wearing it from speaking. And sometimes, well, the brittle bit would like go in your mouth, but sometimes
00:32:16
they would put a spike on the brittle bit or the bridal bit, excuse me, so that >> if the woman tried to talk, like the
00:32:23
movement would pierce her tongue, cut up her tongue >> and like then if you it would just ruin
00:32:27
your whole >> Did they just have like somebody had like a mountain of surplus spikes?
00:32:32
>> You know, there was a spike factory all the time and they were like, "What do we
00:32:35
do with this mountain of spikes?" And they were like, "Let's just make some [ __ ] [ __ ] that rips people apart with
00:32:40
it." >> Yeah. Yeah, >> that's exactly the >> spikes on everything. >> So, if that wasn't bad enough, there's
00:32:45
also a public humiliation part of this. >> I thought that was the public humiliation part.
00:32:50
>> Oh, yeah. But then your husband would drag you in the streets on a leash. >> Marriage.
00:32:56
>> Like, "Hey, let's get divorced, you asshole." Um, where people were encouraged to yell insults, spit on you,
00:33:03
and like inflict more violence on you. >> Maybe that's where they got it in Game
00:33:07
of Thrones. >> That's what I was thinking of the whole time. >> The shame bell. Shame. Shame
00:33:12
>> sounds exactly like it. >> Um, an early record of this practice took place in Scotland.
00:33:18
>> Scotland. >> But like this isn't anything to share about >> in 1567. >> Um, well, it was also the method was
00:33:25
also used in England and Wales. >> See, they did it too. >> Yeah. Everywhere, I'm sure.
00:33:30
>> But Bessie Tifer Bess Bessie um, slandered this guy named Bailey, which is your dog's
00:33:38
>> Bailey. Bailey Hunter because of false measurements in a land dispute. So I think someone was trying to buy land and
00:33:45
he was like, "It's this big." But she was like, "No, [ __ ] it's this big." And then she got that [ __ ] put on her.
00:33:49
>> Yep. Cuz she was a woman and she was sentenced to it for 1 hour. >> One hour. That's just weird.
00:33:56
>> Well, one hour of a reputable damage if it they had the >> tear up your tongue,
00:34:01
>> right? Also in Walton on Fames, which is a town in England. >> Sure. I think um a scold's bridal I like
00:34:08
looked on Wikipedia really fast. That's how I research. Um but a scold's bridal dated 1633 is displayed in the vestri of
00:34:16
the church. That's how we say it. Vestri. You're asking the wrong person about that.
00:34:20
>> Yeah. I like wasn't even baptized. Um the inscription reads >> it sounds like something that would be
00:34:26
in a church. >> I think it's vestri. >> I like it. >> Right in. Yeah. Um, but it says,
00:34:30
"Chester presents the Walton with a bridal to curb women's tongues that talk too idol. Necessary and also
00:34:38
>> poetic. >> Love that it's a poem." >> You know, I didn't realize that until I
00:34:41
said it out loud. I was writing it and I was like, "What a [ __ ] asshole." >> Like, this sounds so flowery. I don't
00:34:45
know why. >> So, the story goes that someone named Chester lost a large fortune because of
00:34:50
a lady's gossip. >> I bet it was Chester's fault. >> Of course it was. nothing to do with the
00:34:54
lady's gossip, >> but he lost some money and then he presented the town with the bridal out
00:34:59
of anger and spite. >> So, he was like, "Here you go. I'm real pissed." And then my last one, do you
00:35:05
want to guess what it's called? >> It's called >> BR is the initials. >> The barnacle repairer.
00:35:13
>> Nope. It's the breast ripper. >> Oh, so close. >> So, it rips off your titties.
00:35:18
>> Oh, I thought it went on your head. Nope. So, it's also known as the iron spider
00:35:23
or just the spider. >> And you guessed it, it's super [ __ ] up. >> Super awesome.
00:35:29
>> But if you were real friended, offended actually by the skull spider. >> If you were friended,
00:35:33
>> if you were friended, >> if you were friended by the school, then that's weird.
00:35:37
>> Delete your Facebook. >> Yeah. >> Um, then this one you should just set it out
00:35:42
because it was Sounds like it's >> Yeah. And they like reserved like special ass torture for girls.
00:35:48
>> Yeah, that was nice of them. So, this one's really short and sweet and to the
00:35:51
point. Uh, it was a claw-like device ended in spikes and they either heated it or left it cold.
00:35:58
>> I don't know which one is worse. >> They would just put it on your boobies and rip your boobs right off
00:36:02
>> or they would like hang it on a wall and then attach your boobies to it and then
00:36:08
like yank you away so that the wall ripped your boobies off kind of. >> And that is all my research on boobs.
00:36:19
and the medieval times. >> I'm still like having a moment about that. >> Are you?
00:36:25
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. My boobs hurt real bad like thinking about that after I like researched.
00:36:30
>> That's a lot. >> And my tongue hurt because of the scolds bridal. >> Yeah. I feel like everybody's going to
00:36:34
walk away from this feeling really sore. My organs hurt because of the Iron Maiden.
00:36:38
>> Yeah, that's not okay. And I felt like I was on fire because of the brazen bull.
00:36:43
Well, I'll I'll start mine off with one that's like the breast ripper in the sense that it just gives you everything
00:36:49
right up front. You don't have to guess what this one is all about. >> Okay. >> It's called the Head Crusher. Like I
00:36:54
said, pretty straightforward. It's back in medieval times, of course. Sorry, >> I was actually throwing things.
00:36:59
>> Um, so what it was was there was a bar that you would place your chin onto. Then on top of your head was a cap-like
00:37:08
device. There was a little screw on top that they would twist and twist and twist and eventually it was like a vice
00:37:17
and your head would go crunch, pop, boom. It was pretty awesome. So your head would basically pop and it would be
00:37:23
crushed. And this happened super slowly, super painfully. And the first thing that would happen stresses me out a lot.
00:37:31
>> Was it your teeth? >> Your teeth would shatter in your mouth. >> Oh, [ __ ] I hate teeth things. Yeah. And
00:37:36
then after that your eyes would pop out of its sockets. >> No. >> Yeah. >> No. Goodbye.
00:37:42
>> And then boop, dead >> pop goes your head. Except once in a while if cuz a lot of these were like
00:37:49
elicit confessions or just for punishment. So if they were doing this to elicit a confession, they might stop
00:37:56
after they've popped your eyes out of your head and or like have halfway have popped your eyes and your teeth have
00:38:02
shattered and been like, "Okay, thank you for confessing." Like the guy from Harry Potter.
00:38:05
>> And then you walk away with no teeth and your eyes are like garbage. >> Yikes. Yeah,
00:38:10
>> that reminds me of the guy from Harry Potter with that big old eye. >> Yeah, that's exactly the same.
00:38:14
>> Oh, and a lot of these Now, a lot of the ones I'm going to go over were done for
00:38:19
such heinous crimes like homosexuality. >> Bye. >> Blasphemy, bye. >> Bye. >> Witchcraft. Bye.
00:38:28
>> Yeah. So, >> I'm going to have my head cov. No, I don't think any anybody would do
00:38:35
great. So, the first big one I'm going to go over >> is called the Blood Eagle. >> Oh, this great name.
00:38:44
>> [ __ ] up. I know about this. >> Great like hard like dark metal band name. >> Oh god.
00:38:48
>> So, it's probably the most nightmarish thing I've ever heard happening to a human.
00:38:55
>> It was popular among Vikings. The Vikings are just [ __ ] up. They're known as a very mellow bunch. So, this
00:39:02
is a departure. And it's believed by some scholars to be something done as an offering to the Norse god of war Odin
00:39:09
before and after battles. So, like for good luck or something like, you know, some people
00:39:14
>> like maybe just wear your lucky socks. >> Yeah, it's it's the same. >> Rub a rabbit's foot on the day.
00:39:20
>> And according to 12th and 13th century scholars, it was most popular in Scandinavia because Vikings.
00:39:26
>> Uhhuh. And it was reserved when it wasn't being used just as like a pump up thing for battle.
00:39:32
>> This is just like a pregame as a pregame for battle. Then it was used for literally the worst of the worst people.
00:39:38
I don't think anybody deserved this, but >> No, I don't think so. >> So basically the blood eagle went a
00:39:43
little something like this. >> No, >> the unfortunate captive would be kneeling or laying on their stomach from
00:39:50
there. >> Yeah. Not a good position to be in. >> Just try to get up. Obviously, they
00:39:54
would be restrained in some way to prevent them from getting up or breaking free or trying to get the [ __ ] up out of
00:39:59
there cuz something bad's going to happen. >> So, first the back was carved. >> Nope. Sometimes it would be carved in
00:40:08
the shape of an eagle, but that was not necessary. But either way, >> back carving,
00:40:12
>> the thing that was the most important was that they opened up your back in some way. That was the main purpose.
00:40:18
When they did that, the victim's rib cage was then cut away from the spine with an axe and subsequently pulled out
00:40:26
one by one away from the spine and out through the back. And the rib cage was then pulled up to slightly resemble
00:40:34
wings, which I have not seen a bird flying around with a rib cage shot out of its back,
00:40:42
but I'm not in Scandinavia, so I don't know. Um, >> maybe birds are different. Listeners,
00:40:47
>> take a picture. >> Scandinavian listeners, let us know. >> I'm spooked. >> Do you have crazy skeleton birds
00:40:54
floating around? I don't know. >> I want pictures. >> I'm not going to guarantee it's not a
00:40:58
thing. >> Picture. It didn't happen. >> So, you would really have to like suspend reality or give a lot of
00:41:04
artistic license for this to resemble an eagle, but we're going with it. So to make the wing look, you know, because
00:41:10
this this looked like a bird obviously, but we could get it more authentic, right? So to to take it to an entirely
00:41:17
new level of suffering. >> Oh no. >> The victim's lungs were then pulled out one at a time and laid over the ribs
00:41:24
because what are wings without fleshy air bags draped over them? I mean, I'm in a dark place.
00:41:34
A dark place. Who hasn't seen a bird flying around with flushy airbags? >> Ready razor attached to them
00:41:42
>> with sand. >> Who among us? >> Who? >> I don't know, bro. >> So, obviously, if the victim managed to
00:41:49
somehow live through this torture, which who knows, stranger things have happened, they would just slowly
00:41:54
suffocate to death after their lungs were pulled out through their back. On top of that, they would rub salt in the
00:42:00
victim's wounds because >> throughout the whole time or just after at the end? >> Throughout the whole time. Because like
00:42:05
if you don't season as you go then the end result is >> and you can't throw them in the crock
00:42:10
pot. >> Yeah. It's not any I watch a lot of Food Network and they are always saying
00:42:15
>> EE >> season that meat. >> Ew. >> So it's important. >> So what was this for? Like what did you
00:42:21
have to do? >> You're just a bad guy. Probably >> it's a real bad guy. >> He's being a real bad guy.
00:42:26
>> Oh >> gal. I don't know if they've I don't see any records of it happening to gals but
00:42:31
Vikings man. >> Major yikes. So that's the blood eagle. >> Oh man. >> Now let's take a little trip over to the
00:42:38
strapido. >> Strapedo. >> Strapedo. Also called corda. Not sure why. >> Corda. >> Yeah. I like strap better.
00:42:45
>> Yeah. >> Um it was used to torture heretics, witches, and anyone else that stepped
00:42:50
out of the very fine line of living in medieval times. >> Yeah. Like what could you do?
00:42:55
>> Basically, it's like you had a bad day and now you're >> in the strap. It was used a lot during
00:43:00
the Spanish Inquisition. That was a [ __ ] up time. It was It was a time. It was a moment.
00:43:06
>> It was a day. >> There were three main ways in which this was administered. The first one was the
00:43:12
victim's arms are tied behind their backs with a rope. >> Also never a good position.
00:43:16
>> Yeah. No. And then the rope is attached to a pulley system and the victim is lifted into the air with their arms
00:43:21
inverted, which they then dislocate violently behind them. Now, the second method is basically the same as the
00:43:28
first, except the victims would be stopped in midair several times to increase the pain and suffering. They
00:43:34
would also cause the victim to jerk around so that they would effectively break the shoulders cuz who needs
00:43:39
shoulders? >> Shoulders like that. >> Yeah, that's no joke. >> That's pain. >> And then the third method was kind of
00:43:44
the same as the first two, except this time they, you know, just add a weight to your ankles so that you'd really get
00:43:50
your joints ripped apart. >> Oh my god. So that's fun. Now, usually this torture was completed within an
00:43:56
hour and it was not used to cause death. So, these people were then let down and
00:44:00
away you go. Come again soon. >> And then you're just going to have rotator cuff problems for your whole
00:44:05
life. >> Yeah, that's exactly the issue you're going to have. Busted rotator cuff. So,
00:44:10
that's a strap. The next one is called the rack. >> Oh, no. I know about this [ __ ]
00:44:17
>> This one's fun. So, in the rack, a victim would be secured to a board of some sort by having their wrists and
00:44:25
ankles cuffed to it. >> No, >> it's never good when you're secured to a board, as you will see when we cover
00:44:30
John Wayne Gayy. It's never a good place to be. Nothing good happens attached to
00:44:35
a board. >> He's so weird. >> Also, Dean Coral, I think, used a board. >> Oh, a lot of boards.
00:44:41
>> This was This was along the same lines. It's real bad. So then chains would be
00:44:45
attached to the cuff and the other end of the chains would attach to a wheel. There was a crank that would then turn
00:44:51
said wheel and this would cause the chains to slowly tighten. >> Oh no. >> Now as this happened, it was pulling
00:44:58
your arms and legs and stretching them. >> Goodbye. >> But not just stretching. The joints,
00:45:03
sockets, ligaments, tendons would all completely snap and crack. Ugh. Now, sometimes they would even go way past
00:45:11
stretching and just pull the [ __ ] limbs right off your body. >> [ __ ] you. Now, if they didn't take it
00:45:17
that far, the muscles would completely lose the ability to contract. And at some point, this person would be
00:45:23
completely unable to move and likely unable to control like basic bodily functions like their bowels.
00:45:31
>> I feel like at the end of this, they probably just like left them to die. Like, you know what I mean? like they're
00:45:35
just like I'm not going to totally kill you, but I'm just going to leave you here
00:45:39
>> cuz you're going to die anyways. So, it's like it's going to be slow or it's going to be relatively quick. So, there
00:45:44
were other variations on this method that were common. Like along with the stretching, sometimes the rack would
00:45:50
include a bed of nails or spikes. >> So, the person would lay upon these sharp objects while they were being
00:45:57
stretched. What if they just had any spikes left over from everything else? >> If they were next to a pile of spikes,
00:46:03
they would just throw a few on there and they were like, "Let's do this." >> Oh, and there were spikes everywhere in
00:46:07
that we don't want to waste spikes. >> No, they had a surplus back then. >> Those
00:46:11
>> Now, this clearly caused a lot of [ __ ] up noises. >> If you've ever cracked your knuckles,
00:46:19
cracked your back, heard anybody else do it. Um, I broke my pelvis when I was like in summer going into 8ighth grade
00:46:26
>> and that pop that you hear, people like across my summer camp said that they heard it and it was like gross.
00:46:32
>> I can like still hear it. >> Yeah, it's a disgusting and that's just like a small portion of what you'd hear
00:46:37
here. >> Oh god. Cuz so many things would be crackle lacking. >> Well, this for this reason, torture
00:46:44
wasn't only used for the unfortunate person attached to the rack. It was also used as a method of eliciting a
00:46:50
confession from accused heretics by having them watch someone else be tortured on the rack. The sound inside
00:46:57
of someone's tendons, ligaments, and joints just [ __ ] tearing apart and popping all over the place was actually
00:47:02
enough torture >> that it turns out that this was a pretty effective method >> for eliciting a confession. Because if
00:47:09
you think about it, you're [ __ ] watching somebody pulled apart >> slowly. So messed up
00:47:13
>> and the sounds would drive you mad. >> Yeah. So yeah, that's the rack. That's
00:47:19
the rack. >> That's the rack. And that's a wrap. She should be called the ripper.
00:47:25
Ripper. The rack ripper. >> Ouchie. That's what the breast ripper should have been called. The rack
00:47:31
ripper. >> Oh, that's funny. >> Oh, that's funny. >> Oh my god, that was that was funny.
00:47:38
>> Good job. >> Incredulous. >> You're like sometimes hilarious. >> I am sometimes only a little bit. On to
00:47:45
the next. >> On on to the next one. >> This one's called the wheel. It's also called the Catherine wheel or the
00:47:50
breaking wheel. >> My Catherine >> because [ __ ] you know Catherine, you know what she's all about.
00:47:57
>> I know this was used during the Spanish Inquisition. >> Okay. >> It was the cousin of the rack.
00:48:02
>> Zeraka. >> And it was intended for the purpose of capital punishment or for torture to
00:48:08
elicit confessions. >> Good. >> Samesies. >> Sameies. So there would be a large wagon
00:48:14
wheel where the accused would be stretched out all over hanging out. >> They would be attached to it some way
00:48:20
restrained and then they would be severely beaten with clubs, thick branches and you know stuff like that.
00:48:26
>> No thanks. >> And because they were stretched out on a wheel with open spaces between all the
00:48:30
spokes, their bones would [ __ ] break >> because of all the off angles. >> God.
00:48:35
>> And it was used for the purpose of torture. And then while the tor after the torture was complete in that
00:48:43
respect, it would continue because the person would then be either removed from the wheel before death happened or you
00:48:51
would be straight up bludgeoned to death and left on the wheel for everybody to see. And then there's other ways where
00:48:59
you weren't bludgeoned to death, you were just left on that [ __ ] wheel to die after they broke all your bones.
00:49:04
>> Wa. How long do you think that would take? They said they could leave a beaten, broken body on that wheel for
00:49:10
days and they would just slowly infection would set in >> and they'd go starving and hungry.
00:49:15
>> Yeah, but they honestly they'd probably die from the infection to like quick >> cuz all those broken bones and [ __ ] and
00:49:21
I'm sure bones were popping through skin and stuff. >> Oh god, that's nasty. >> Yeah. So
00:49:28
>> if they were going to if they were using it for cap like to kill you >> then they basically would leave you up
00:49:34
there and just keep administering beatings until you finally just died. >> Nope. From the trauma.
00:49:39
>> I'm not interested. >> And no matter what you were on public display during all this
00:49:44
>> people like to watch [ __ ] like that back then. >> [ __ ] was mayhem back then.
00:49:47
>> Like people used to like join in on stones and stuff. >> On stones. >> Stoning.
00:49:52
>> They just stoned back then. >> Yeah. They were just joining. I think they needed to be stoked.
00:49:57
>> They did because they used to bring like kids to like public hangings and guillotine.
00:50:01
>> My first college English assignment back before college. >> Yes. >> Back in the middle ages
00:50:07
>> was like a short story about um somebody getting stoned. And then we were supposed to write a paper about morals.
00:50:14
>> Somebody getting stoned like smoking the >> No, like somebody getting like >> legit stoned.
00:50:20
>> Yeah. Or like No, it wasn't stoned. It was like a book about like one once a year they would have to like pick a name
00:50:28
out of like the town and that person would get like stoned or hung. It's called like the election or something.
00:50:34
>> It's like the Hunger Games. >> Yeah, literally. But we had to write a paper on it and I remember reading it
00:50:38
and I was like, "Why am I in college? Why am I in college?" And then you were like, "Fuck."
00:50:42
>> And then I dropped out. >> Yes. Well, the next one you're like back to reality, unfortunate reality is called
00:50:52
the heretics fork. Forks are never good in torture unless you're eating. >> Now, this was specifically used for
00:51:01
people who spoke out against the Catholic Church during the Middle Ages. >> Bye.
00:51:05
>> You know, witches, heretics, all that good stuff. >> Basically, it was a double-ended fork.
00:51:12
Both ends had two very sharp prongs on them. >> Oh no. >> It would be attached to a leather collar
00:51:18
device that would go around the victim's neck. >> No. >> This created a situation where the
00:51:23
victim could not move their head from a strained upward position. >> No. >> And couldn't drop their jaw even a
00:51:29
little bit. If they did, >> then prongs would pierce their neck and prongs would pierce their sternum area.
00:51:36
And it wasn't like they would just be like, "Boop, that hurts a little." It was like, "No, you're going to get like
00:51:40
impaled by this." And the >> it was very simple but very effective. And the whole thing was very poetic
00:51:47
because it's like you spoke out against the church so now you have to look up at
00:51:51
your god that you don't believe in. Like that was the whole thing. You have to look up to heaven and we're forcing you
00:51:56
to look up into the sky. >> Be like, but it's still not there. I don't see anything except the ceiling.
00:52:02
>> It's like please take this off of me. >> God, are you there? It's me, Margaret.
00:52:06
>> It's me, Margaret. >> Back in the Middle Ages, >> Judy Bloom. That's where it originated.
00:52:14
Well, the next one has a little bit of bit of religion to it, too. >> Oh, it's called the cradle of Judas.
00:52:21
>> Who's Judas again? >> Judas is I know this. Judas is the guy that betrayed Jesus.
00:52:27
>> To be honest with you, I thought that was Caesar. >> Well, it's the same situation. Like
00:52:31
Caesar had Brutus. >> Oh, Judas and Brutus. >> Like etu brute means and you brutus.
00:52:37
Like he turned around and was like, "And you, you are my friend." I thought and so Judith did the same thing. Theatrical
00:52:44
>> I'm very theatrical. I went to theater camp >> and you had fun in high school.
00:52:49
>> No, I'm just kidding. That actually does sound fun. I wanted to be in drama club,
00:52:54
but my mom worked >> so I couldn't be. >> I was in drama club for a long time until senior year high school. I
00:53:00
graduated. >> Yeah, I did cheerleading by >> Exactly. Exactly. See, she's trying to
00:53:04
hide the real root of the issue here. >> Well, I wanted to do drama in middle school. I was only a cheerleader for one
00:53:10
year. Wow. It felt like a lot longer. >> Sure did. You're telling me I'm still dealing with the post-traumatic stress
00:53:17
disorder from it. Not the physical cookie dough. Sell it. Sell it. >> You make the woo sound at the end of all
00:53:25
your cheers. Jesus. >> Remember, you put me through so much hell. >> I did. I really did.
00:53:30
>> It was self-prescribed though. I like I set it up. >> You just made it so easy.
00:53:34
>> But I also played softball. >> Yeah, I did too. But I wasn't good. And the coach was also your coach and he was
00:53:40
like, "Why are you not like Elena?" >> That's cuz that's only cuz I played softball since the time I was like
00:53:45
Whenever you can start teball, that's when I started. >> Yeah. >> And I played literally every season my
00:53:50
whole life. >> Yeah. >> Fun little fact. >> Fun fun. >> One of us was a cheerleader. One of us
00:53:57
was a drama nerd. >> Who's who? >> Who's who, >> but you can't tell. >> You could totally pick us up in a lineup
00:54:04
of who was who. >> 100%. 100%. >> I'm just glad. >> I don't think anyone is confusing me for
00:54:09
a cheerleader. >> The cradle of Judas. >> Oh, where did we go? >> We came out of that.
00:54:16
>> I think this is not going to be a popular podcast. >> Now, this one is a doozy. And I mean
00:54:20
doozy when I say doozy. >> Doo. >> Hold on to your butts, everybody. >> Hold on to your butts because
00:54:27
>> I'm going to start saying >> hold on to your anus. >> Hold on to that rectum. So, this is
00:54:33
another creation from the Spanish Inquisition. >> Keep icing your front bum. >> Oh, I hope someone gets that reference.
00:54:43
>> I'm not going to say where it's from. >> I kind of want to keep icing your front
00:54:46
bum. Swelling continues if you do not ice. >> Don't say where it's from. Don't say
00:54:51
>> don't tell me you know what that's from. >> I want a DM. >> Oh, I want one. Please, please, please.
00:54:56
We're begging. Okay, so continues if you two do. This device is a wooden pyramid
00:55:02
that's raised high on four legs and on top of that pyramid is >> a spike. >> A spike.
00:55:10
>> It's the theme. >> The victim would then be stripped naked >> and weights were attached to their
00:55:16
ankles and then they were hung by their arms and legs high above this device. >> Not interested.
00:55:21
>> When the torture was to begin, they would then be lowered slowly onto the period. Period.
00:55:30
You know what I want to know actually? Cuz in my mind I was just like not interested. Like I'm not showing up to
00:55:35
my torture day. How did they not run away before? >> Oh, they would rip you out of your
00:55:40
house. Like you weren't getting away. >> It's not like they were like on Tuesday
00:55:44
at 2. >> I don't know. Be lowered onto a pyramid. >> The Middle Ages were fooked up. Maybe
00:55:51
people were just so afraid of everything that >> that's why they would never give you
00:55:54
advanced notice >> because in the Middle Ages they were just like bursting into your house being
00:55:58
like you thought an improper thought so we're going to stick you onto this [ __ ]
00:56:03
>> you are wrong sir I'm eating breakfast >> the cradle of Judas for you. So yeah, so
00:56:09
they'd be lowered slowly onto this pyramid, which would cause the spike to penetrate their perennium region, which
00:56:14
is your anus, your butt. Gravity, body weight, and the added weights would cause the person to sink
00:56:24
onto the steak with no resistance. >> Oh god. >> Now, this torture would last for hours,
00:56:30
and usually the victim was left on this thing all [ __ ] night. natural instinct. Like if you think about it, if
00:56:35
you sit on something that hurts your bum, your natural instinct is to like rock back and forth to kind of like
00:56:41
alleviate the >> Yeah. to be like, "Oh, that hurt." >> to try to get yourself off of it. Kind
00:56:44
of. >> Same thing with like the iron maiden like we were saying. >> Exactly. Like your just natural instinct
00:56:48
would take over. But doing that in this case would just rip the wound larger and
00:56:53
sink you lower onto the steak. This is like the hemorrhoid from hell. >> They should have they should have called
00:56:59
it the hemorrhoid hole maker. They should have just called it the hemorrhoid. >> Yeah, it's just
00:57:06
>> Six Flags should come out with a ride like that. >> They Six Flags should not come out with
00:57:10
a ride like that. >> I'm just kidding because I don't want to know the kind of people that would go on
00:57:15
that ride. >> It's like dark tourist. >> Exact. That's real dark tourist [ __ ] >> I just gave that guy an idea for his
00:57:20
horror house. >> I don't even think he's probably like, "No, thank you. I do not want to explore
00:57:25
that." >> E. Um, so these people would often bleed to death or the infection from the
00:57:30
spike. Never being [ __ ] cleaned between torture sessions would definitely kill them.
00:57:35
>> Oh, that's like dysentery, right? >> Dysentery is poopy. >> Pooping a lot. Like you like diarrhea.
00:57:43
Like >> So it would cause dysentery. >> No, it would cause internal damage. >> Death. It's not going to cause you to
00:57:51
have diarrhea. It's going to cause your entire abdomen to explode. Cesspool. Are you just saying words?
00:57:59
What's it? What is it if you get like typhoid disease? Like people just like cuz like their their waist was on the
00:58:09
thing and then it got into other people's little trail of smoke come out of your ears.
00:58:15
>> Something is my brain popped in there >> and you tried very hard to get them.
00:58:20
>> No. Do you know what I mean though? Like you know what I'm saying? >> Like infection.
00:58:23
>> Yeah. Yeah, >> but like poop infection is a different kind of infection. >> I mean, if you want it to be a poop
00:58:28
infection, >> well, it would be. It's your bum, but it's not. This is not like this is a spike that's
00:58:38
ripping into your internal organs. That's where the infection happens. Not pooping. No, I'm not saying they're
00:58:44
pooping. I'm saying it goes in their butt. So, a little bit of poop gets on it and then the poop gets in your organs
00:58:51
>> for sure. So that's where the infection comes from >> for sure. And like other bodily fluids,
00:58:55
too, >> right? >> Yeah. >> That's all I was saying. >> Cespool, >> but I like it.
00:59:01
>> Remember when I told that story of me dropping out of college? >> No, here we are.
00:59:06
>> Here we sit. They're like, "Go back to college, D." >> Oh [ __ ] So that's the cradle.
00:59:11
>> Oh [ __ ] The cradle of Jesus. >> That's the cradle of Judas. >> So that's the cradle of Jesus. I don't
00:59:19
think the cradle of Jesus would be as metal. >> I don't know. >> I don't know, man. So, this Oh, this is
00:59:27
the one that's used today. You know what? I remembered which one it was cuz I looked at your notes.
00:59:32
>> Torture by rats. >> That's the one still used today. >> This one's still used today, apparently.
00:59:36
I don't know where. I'm not going there. But it's used. >> I almost just said where.
00:59:42
>> Where? >> After you were like, I don't know where. I'm not going there. I was like, where?
00:59:48
where it happened. >> Cespool >> typhoid. The victim in this case is stripped naked and lays on a table.
00:59:54
Nope. >> Which seems to be just when that happens, it's just >> just kind of your just go to a different
00:59:59
spot. >> Go to your happy place cuz this isn't going to be good. >> Then a half cage with an open top would
01:00:05
be placed on their stomach with the open top facing their skin. And inside that container would be rats.
01:00:11
>> Oh god. >> Next. >> Who thinks of this? >> Not I. >> Like who thought of these things? really
01:00:17
messed up people. >> Yeah, >> some really messed up people. I mean, you just I guess it would kind of be
01:00:22
easy cuz you just think of like the worst stuff that would make you so wrong. You're like, "Let's do this other
01:00:28
do it to someone." >> Exactly. >> This is, you know, serial killer stuff. >> It's morbid.
01:00:33
>> Very morbid. >> Yeah. >> So, >> this was bad enough cuz it was just creepy. >> But then the cage where the rats were
01:00:42
would be heated in some way. >> Oh, disgusting. >> So, the rats would desperately score.
01:00:46
scurry around and try to escape the heat. Well, where's the only place they can go?
01:00:51
>> Inside of your chest. >> It can only go down. So, this these rats would violently burrow through the
01:00:57
abdomen of the victim while they were chained to a table unable to move. >> Oh, goodbye.
01:01:02
>> So, basically, they would like tear through your intestines and once you tear through the intestines, forget
01:01:07
about it. You're septic. That's it. >> Cesspool. You are a >> cesspool. Yeah. You don't want you don't
01:01:12
want to hit the poop pipe, kid. Huh? >> That's a line from a really good movie that you should watch.
01:01:17
>> Pathology. >> I almost just said called autopsy. >> Called auto. Not called autopsy, but
01:01:23
called pathology. I think our listeners would like that movie. >> I seen it. >> It's a good movie.
01:01:26
>> It's a good movie. >> And at one point they're doing an autopsy and they hit the intestine
01:01:31
>> and he says, "You don't want to hit the poop pipe kid." >> And it's a really good motto for life.
01:01:36
>> Mhm. >> So there's a variation on this. And >> sometimes you hit the poop pipe in your
01:01:40
life. >> You do. You Yeah. Everybody hits the poop pipe weak. >> Yeah. And it's, you know, just got to
01:01:48
keep on moving. >> Sorry. Anyways, >> suture that [ __ ] up and keep on moving. >> Yeah.
01:01:52
>> So, a variation on this was instead of placing the rats just directly against
01:01:56
the flesh, they would use a telescopic tube to guide the rats inside the prisoner's body through the rectum or
01:02:04
the vagine. >> Yeah. >> What? >> Yeah. >> They would guide the rats up. So they would like block one end and stick the
01:02:12
other end that way. So the only way they were going was up. And rats will just be
01:02:17
like, "Oh, all right. I'll just burrow through this. I'll burrow through this." Hoo-ha. Yeah. They don't know the
01:02:22
difference. They're like, "It's a dark hole." >> Did the rats die, too? Probably.
01:02:26
>> Uh I don't think they would die right away cuz they they're just going in there.
01:02:29
>> Oh my god. >> They'll be fine. >> So you you would just die with rats inside you?
01:02:34
>> Pretty much. >> Gross. >> Yeah. And they would just like destroy your insides. So, let's see. Where do I
01:02:41
want to end? Because I have like two little ones and then one big one. >> End on a high note. Like a big note.
01:02:46
Okay. So, I'll go next to the um Glascow smile. >> Oh, yeah. >> This is Scotland. Our people. Maybe we
01:02:55
don't want to tell them that right now. Now, if you've ever seen The Dark Knight, you've seen one of these.
01:03:00
>> You've seen some [ __ ] It's also known as the Cheshire Grin among the London
01:03:04
street gangs and originated but it originated in Glasgow, Scotland. Um, basically two small incisions are made
01:03:11
at the corner of the victim's mouth and as the victim was beat or stabbed, muscle contractions in the face would
01:03:17
make those wounds extend upwards towards the ears and make it this big [ __ ] terrifying ear to ear smile. If left
01:03:25
untreated, some people would die as a result of severe infection or exanguination, which is just acute blood
01:03:33
loss. >> Excuination. >> Exanguination. >> Exanguination. >> Yes. >> I like that word, but it's awful.
01:03:40
>> It's a good word. >> Exanguination. >> I mean, it's a bad thing, but it's a good word.
01:03:43
>> Um, one famous example of this is the black dalia. >> Oh, yeah. >> Which and it's terrifying. And some
01:03:50
people, there's actually like actors or directors or something. One of them that
01:03:55
like I can't remember his name, but he was a victim of this in like a bar like fight or bar someone and he has scars
01:04:03
like like Dark Knight. Yeah. I can't remember his name. Of course I didn't write that down.
01:04:09
>> You know what I want to do? >> Um cuz you said the Black Doll. Yeah. I want to do an episode on the Cecil Hotel
01:04:14
and like all the weird [ __ ] that's happened. >> Oh yeah, we'll definitely Yeah, for sure. That's a really good one
01:04:20
because there's all kinds of crazy connections to that place. >> There's so much [ __ ]
01:04:23
>> This one's a quick one. It's another one that's exactly what it sounds like. Saw
01:04:27
torture. So, they would tickle you with a feather. >> I saw a picture of this when I was doing
01:04:32
the research for mine and the people just look so happy. >> Yeah. They're psyched. They're just like
01:04:38
>> like the people doing it. I mean, >> yeah, they probably sung. Uh, the victim
01:04:41
is hung upside down in this case by their ankles and a saw is used to cut them from the groin all the way to the
01:04:47
sternum. Oh, >> sometimes the poor person would stay alive until they hid the mid midsection
01:04:54
or even the chest in some instances >> cuz all the blood's at your head. >> Well, they that's the thing. They were
01:04:59
upside down. So, they did that so blood would rush to your head and so that it cuz when that happens, you're you're
01:05:05
stopping blood loss. >> Oh. >> So, this person would be able to live and if you're hitting certain spots in
01:05:10
the abdomen, you're not going to die right away. >> Oh, god. >> Yeah. So, that's awful.
01:05:15
>> No. >> So, that's awful. Another one. I have two more. One's a big one, one's a
01:05:21
littleer one. >> End on the big one. >> Drawn and quartered. >> Oh, everybody's heard of this, I'm sure.
01:05:27
It's usually reserved for high treason. And it began in 1283 English. >> Good band name. High Treason.
01:05:35
>> High Treason. I like it. >> Hello, Philadelphia. We are high treason. >> We are high treason.
01:05:41
>> I like it. >> Hello, Wisconsin. >> I like how you weren't in Boston. You picked like two other
01:05:47
You were like Philadelphia typhoid. >> So in drawn and quartered victims were often hanged to the point of near death
01:05:57
and then taken down. >> They're already >> like you're still >> Yeah, that's not okay. So that sucks.
01:06:04
And then so they were taken down right before they died and then they were tied to something and disembowled.
01:06:12
>> Oh >> yeah. So really just >> disembowelment is too extra. >> It's a lot. >> You die from that obviously.
01:06:20
>> Well then the endrails would be burned and the victim's limbs were then tied with ropes. The other end of the ropes
01:06:28
are tied to horses and then the horses are just like lightly encouraged to take take off and run.
01:06:35
So boom by limbs. Um the victim would then be beheaded and the head would be displayed. Wow.
01:06:43
>> Extra. >> Now, a famous one of the uh victim of this was Scottish patriot Sir William
01:06:49
Wallace. >> He was killed this way after leading the Scottish resistance against the English.
01:06:56
In uh on August 5th, 1305, he was arrested near Glasgow. Whoop. And taken to England to be killed as a traitor to
01:07:03
the King Edward I even though he never swore an allegiance to him. So, it's kind of
01:07:08
>> so technically he couldn't be a traitor. >> No. So, whatever. >> Stupid. So yeah, that's drawn in
01:07:13
quarter. Now, this one we'll leave we'll leave on a high note or really low note,
01:07:18
however you want to look at it. >> We're going to end on fleing. >> Oh, >> so this is real and it's not just the
01:07:25
sigil for House Bolton on Game of Thrones. >> I thought you were going to talk to me
01:07:28
about Bobby Fle. I love Bobby Fle. So, first in a in flaying, your skin has to be tenderized.
01:07:38
the torture, you know, wants a status. You know how when you like peel off like a face mask and it's like all in one
01:07:44
sheet? >> That's actually like one >> or like when you peel off a sunburn. >> Exactly.
01:07:48
>> I know. It's like >> So that's what the torturer was going for. He didn't want to have to work for
01:07:52
this [ __ ] >> He wanted satisfaction. >> So the victim would either be left out
01:07:55
in the hot sun all day while their skin burned. >> Oh. >> Or they would be dipped into a vat of
01:08:00
boiling water just until they were almost boiled alive. >> Just until they write crispy. This got
01:08:05
the skin nice and loose and it also just like prolonged the experience >> which is always something they're
01:08:12
looking for. >> Uh now when they would start to flay you they would usually begin with the face
01:08:19
skin. So you would have your entire face peeled. >> It's like a super nightmarish chemical
01:08:25
peel. >> Oh. And then cuts would be made around your arms, wrists, chest, neck, and
01:08:31
ankles because this would make it easier for the skin to come off in one satisfying piece.
01:08:37
And you didn't want all kinds of little ones because you wanted to be able to display the full all the sheets and it
01:08:45
would look like a person's skin. So, going back to Australia like we did last week, um I listened once to a case where
01:08:52
like this I'm pretty sure it was Australia and this lady did that to her husband and then hung him up in the
01:08:58
doorway. >> That's [ __ ] >> Yeah, >> that's intense. >> Like he did some real [ __ ]
01:09:02
>> Yeah, he did some >> No, nobody deserves that. That's [ __ ] up. >> But like you have to be real mad.
01:09:06
>> Yeah, she was pissed. But she was also like loco and Kabesa. >> I imagine >> she was. That's a lot of work.
01:09:14
>> Yeah. Well, then the cuts are only extended into the epidermis and stopped where the muscle begins.
01:09:21
>> Oh, >> so that hurts more basically. >> And they knew that back then. >> Yeah.
01:09:27
>> Wow. >> Yeah. And >> science. >> Now, in the the ancient church of Hadstock in Essex actually had a legend
01:09:35
of a Dne who had committed sacrilege and he was flayed for punishment. His skin was then spread out and nailed to the
01:09:41
door of the church. Wow. as a super subtle warning to others. >> That's far too subtle.
01:09:46
>> Now, when the door needed repair later, they found pieces of human skin still
01:09:51
under the nails. So, that's it like actually happened. >> Ew. >> And then at another cathedral uh in
01:09:58
England, I believe it's there's a large slab of human skin like on display and it was of another Dne who was a Viking
01:10:06
who tried to steal the church's bell, which like >> why were you trying to steal the
01:10:10
church's bell? And it's like you tried to steal the church's bell and they flayed you. Like damn. They were like
01:10:15
don't touch our [ __ ] bell. Now the reason I I'm sure all of you are wondering like, huh? What would it feel
01:10:23
like to be playing? >> I'm not wondering that to be honest. >> I'm sure everyone is wondering, right?
01:10:27
>> Well, I thought I was hungry and I'm not anymore. >> I'm actually still hungry. But um
01:10:31
>> of course you are. What's that picture that Bosco drew of you eating a sandwich?
01:10:35
>> Oh yeah, my friend Bosco who's an amazing artist and you should go find him. That's a cool picture.
01:10:42
>> He drew a picture of me during an autopsy eating a sandwich. >> Pretty believable.
01:10:47
>> I'll have to post that picture and tag him in it. >> You should >> cuz it's a great photo.
01:10:51
>> Um, so the reason this hurts like hell is that nerve endings extend really deep
01:10:59
into the layers of your skin and that enables your sense of touch. >> Like it's why your fingertips are really
01:11:05
sensitive. And if you've ever had a paper cut, you know that [ __ ] hurts more than anything. Um, this response is
01:11:11
caused by noceptors. So those are sensory nerve cells that respond to pain. Science. Science.
01:11:20
That was loud. Uh, playing involves tearing the skin away from the muscle, not cutting it.
01:11:28
>> So it's the ripping motion that means your nerve endings are just they're not
01:11:31
being sever severed cleanly. Instead, they're just [ __ ] torn to shreds. So, your nerve endings are just being like
01:11:37
bombarded. >> Yeah. It's not like a clean cut that they can like recover from. Um, you're
01:11:43
going to feel your skin being pulled off every bit of muscle. >> Oh my god. >> And you're literally going to feel your
01:11:48
nerve endings die. Like, you're going to feel every nerve ending die. You're going to feel all of it. So despite the
01:11:55
fact that those administering the torture may also be hitting you or hanging you upside down to keep you
01:12:01
awake and alert, which they often did, you may lose consciousness from blood loss, from pain and fear, or because
01:12:08
your brain is most definitely going to go into self-preservation mode and just start shutting [ __ ] down, right?
01:12:13
>> Which, thank goodness for our brains, >> for real. >> Or you could die from hypothermia even
01:12:19
if it's not cold out >> because you don't have your skin to protect you anymore. Cuz your skin is
01:12:23
the biggest one of the big it's the biggest and one of the most vital organs in the human body and it regulates
01:12:29
temperature. It protects all the other organs and systems in the body. So not only that, but you're exposed completely
01:12:34
to infection. O >> um you will definitely die because because of all that without your skin.
01:12:42
There's you can repair and regenerate skin >> without your skin, >> but once you've lost that much skin,
01:12:47
your body can't regenerate that much skin. Obviously, there's a there's an interesting story that I heard from
01:12:54
another podcast that's amazing and you should all go listen to Lore. I'm sure a lot of people have listened to it.
01:13:01
>> Yes, I love that. >> Aaron Mankey is amazing. >> He has a show on Amazon now.
01:13:04
>> Well, that's what I was thinking of. He has a show on Amazon called Lore and there's a story of Peter Stub and he was
01:13:12
a crazy serial killer and cannibal who was caught after what they what was thought to be a werewolf was killing
01:13:18
men, women, and children in Germany in the 16th century. >> Oh yeah, I remember watching that with
01:13:23
you. So he's called like a werewolf and well >> really he's just a >> So back in 1589 Peter Stub was arrested
01:13:30
and formally accused of being an insatiable blood sucker and evidence was provided that he had quote gorged on the
01:13:38
flesh of goats, lambs and sheep as well as men, women, and children for over 25 years.
01:13:43
>> That's horrible. >> So when he was caught, he was facing torture. So he confessed to having
01:13:49
murdered and eaten quote 14 children and two pregnant women. >> Jesus. >> So he was a piece of [ __ ] Now you would
01:13:56
have thought that he would have stopped there while he was like relatively ahead
01:14:00
cuz he was confessing. Confession. >> He was confessing. >> When you confess, >> you just got to get that [ __ ] out.
01:14:05
>> But uh no. He then declared that he quote extracted a fetus from a pregnant woman's womb and ate their hearts
01:14:15
panting hot and raw. Jesus. >> And he also confessed to having regular sex with his daughter and having had
01:14:21
intercourse with a quote succubus sent to him by the devil. So his execution was prolonged with torture obviously
01:14:29
>> apparently. >> So flesh was torn from his body in 10 places with red hot pinchers.
01:14:35
>> Ooh. >> Followed by his arms and his legs. They also pulled this. So they flayed him.
01:14:41
>> Oh wow. >> With red hot pinchers. Then his limbs were broken with the blunt side of an
01:14:46
axe head on the wheel. So they added in the wheel to this. This is like a nice little
01:14:50
>> They got really crafty for this one. >> It's like a casserole of torture. >> Yeah.
01:14:54
>> Just all throw him in the crockot. >> Thrown in one crockpot. >> And to per that was to now to prevent
01:15:00
him from returning from the grave, they then beheaded him and burned his body on
01:15:05
a p. >> Wow. >> Now his daughter and mistress were also flayed and strangled and burned.
01:15:11
>> Is that fair? Well, it was as a preventative measure against similar wolfish behavior
01:15:16
>> as if they were a wolf. >> So, they thought because they thought he was a werewolf. That was the whole
01:15:21
thing. They were like, "Well, they must be werewolves, too." >> And then after all this was done, the wheel
01:15:29
was erected on a pole with the figure of a wolf on it and topped by Peter Stub's
01:15:34
severed head. Whoa. So, that's the story of flying. And also Ramsay Snow did it on Game of Thrones.
01:15:43
>> Oh yeah. >> Yeah. Remember he did remember he says it about that uh >> Oh, the kid that they hung up, right?
01:15:50
>> Sansa's No, it's Sansa's like nurse. Remember she was like an old woman and he says something like tough old bird
01:15:56
like she was alive until we got to her neck or something like that. And I was like,
01:16:00
>> "Oh, wow." >> Ramsay Snowman. >> Yeah. >> Can we tell them our announcement? Oh,
01:16:05
yay. We have a fun announcement. out. We don't have a date for this yet. We're still in talks, but I'm really excited
01:16:11
to announce it. So, I'm hoping, >> don't yell at us if it doesn't happen. >> So, we were watching Dark Touris.
01:16:17
>> We were watching Dark Tourus and we were watching the episode where he goes to
01:16:22
New Orleans and he talks to people who are um vampires. >> Right >> now, we recognized this beautiful couple
01:16:30
of vampires that are married. >> They're so dope. >> They really are. And we were like, "Wait
01:16:35
a second. Where have we seen them before? >> I literally texted Elena and I was like,
01:16:38
"Are those the people that were on True Life when I was >> And they were they were on MTV like two
01:16:43
episodes." >> Yeah. >> Cuz they were on the episode back in 2014. They were in an episode Respect My
01:16:49
Sect. And it was following Daly, who is the vampire queen of Austin. >> Uhhuh. >> And and her husband, but it was focusing
01:16:58
on her. And then it was in another episode in 2016, True Life, I'm a witch, where like somebody go is part of this
01:17:07
court still. So you get to see Daly and her husband, Logan, who's the vampire king of Austin. They have a vampire
01:17:14
court of Austin where they have like more than 50 members according to the True Life.
01:17:19
>> Wow. >> episode and I'm sure they have more now. >> I mean, yeah, it makes sense.
01:17:22
>> And they are vampires and we were fascinated by it. and they seem like they're just like so in love and I love
01:17:31
their relationship. >> Their Instagrams are like >> it's adorable and also like we were kind
01:17:36
of inspired by the fact that they are just like unabashedly who they are and it's really like it's like makes you
01:17:44
want to know them cuz I mean how many of us can say that we just >> are unapologetically who we are all the
01:17:52
time >> and they found each other which is nice. So >> we were like to them >> and we reached out, talked to Daly and
01:18:01
asked her if she would ever want to speak to us for the podcast and she was kind enough to say she would her and
01:18:08
Logan would love to talk to us. So we are setting up an interview with the king and queen vampire of the Vampire
01:18:16
Court of Austin, Logan and Daily South. And we could not be happier. We are so excited. Your dog is making the most
01:18:25
disgusting noises next to me. I'm really sorry. >> We are so excited. We're gonna have a
01:18:31
date for you guys. We'll let you know cuz I think we're going to do it soon. >> Yeah.
01:18:35
>> So, um Yeah. So, get excited. We're going to be talking to the vampire king and queen of Austin.
01:18:39
>> This is like a big deal. >> We'll do we'll we'll um kind of mesh it in with a whole episode devoted to
01:18:45
vampirism because it's a really fascinating subject. >> Stop looking at my dog. >> I'm so I'm sure you guys are going to be
01:18:52
super into. So, >> it's interesting and awesome. So, yeah. Look forward to that.
01:18:58
>> Uh, check us out on Instagram, Morbid Podcast, and download us, subscribe, leave us reviews, rate us, tell your
01:19:07
friends, shout it from the rooftops. >> Just don't flay anyone. >> Just don't flay anyone. But you can
01:19:14
Bobby Fle someone. Uh, >> hey yo. So, yeah. Hope you liked our our foray into torture.
01:19:20
>> We hope you keep it weird. Bad huzzah. Huzzah. Mutton again. I don't know any other
01:19:32
medieval foods. Potatoes. Gravy. Right. Potatoes are medieval. Just like gravy. Gravy. It's over now.