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hey weirdos I'm Ash and I'm Elina and this is more [Music] bid this is morbid it's at Ash's house
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in the it's all different remix remix fre fre remix we have some construction happening in my house so luckily we have
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a second recording location now yes I need to work on getting this like a little more soundproof but all the sound
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proofy things that I found I don't like like they're ugly I don't like the aesthetic of them the aesthetic so I
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have to I'm going to work on it yeah you just got to get some like bookshelves in
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here yeah yeah exactly there's actually going to be some construction going on at my house in like November so
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hopefully they're done with your construction yeah we'll be switching back over to the other house all the
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construction mucho construction guys still spooky season it's still spooky season we went to our first haunted
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house of the Season yes Barett it's always barretts you're wearing your sweatpants I am I'm wearing my Barrett
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sweatpants they're really comfy Barrett they're so comfy Barrett's an Abington it's an Abington right I think so yeah
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yeah it's like behind the Abington Ale House it is it's topnotch the best haunted house on the planet I believe it
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really they do they tear the [ __ ] down every year and rebuild it to completely
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new yeah and they do a [ __ ] phenomenal job this year the theme is gameplay and there's all these rooms
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like like little like gaming areas yeah it's super it's just so well done they and I think they spend like months
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getting these sets together and you and you can tell yeah and all the actors like the makeup they do it's all like
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top the process is just really impressive so if you're looking for A Haunted House in the New England area
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that's your that's your guy bar man you got to go yeah we're going to do a couple more we were a little laxidasical
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this this year we were well we got like you know sidetracked with Co we got sidetracked with the book tour happening
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and uh now we got to make up for it we only got a couple more weekends I know we only have I guess we have three
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technically I feel like we never go on Halloween weekend yeah we really don't I feel like it's too crazy but maybe we
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will this year maybe we'll change it up it be CRA where we going to go yeah I also went to a cat show this weekend you
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sure did I took the kids to the cat show and me my cousin Drew and all the kids I
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was like let's go to a [ __ ] cat show and I fought every single urge within my body to not bring home another cat
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because I mean yeah like if you have four cats go off I can't go off I can't live a four cat life can't do it and my
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cats will not live a four cat life I think Franklin would just eat another cat if we brought one home but they had
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those um those like Scottish like smooshy ones oh those are so cute yeah they are I think they have a lot of
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health problems CU oh no they're like an English bulldog yeah I think they're like inter breeded so they're like like
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it's not cool actually it's not cool you're like they're super cute but it's not Co but I'm like I I want to save you
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I know yeah exactly I was like I was waiting for you to pick that up I just scream in the cat's face me scream this
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in corporate song into a cat's face that that's Ash energy do that today if you haven't pour one out for Scottish cats
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and sing in your own cat's face I think this Something Corporate Tor just ended actually I just saw that our friend
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Connor posted and said we did it we love Connor I said you did [ __ ] do it you did [ __ ] did all of it yeah you you
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made our lives hell yeah I know we need to like there there's things to be done still yeah there's work to be done
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there's work to be done there's guests to be had guests to be booked but we don't want to tell you no
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shut up shut up imagine if I was serious that'd be so sad I would never tell you
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guys to shut up I actually don't like the the phrase shut up you don't rude yeah um this a little rude if you hear
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my ice for a second it's we're all alive and we're drinking iced coffee I made us
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it's actually really funny to see you drinking coffee out of a mason jar cuz it's not you aesthetically aesthetic uh
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Mason jars are kind of my vibe right now I love this is good iced coffee oh you're
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welcome oh you're welcome I do I do make a pretty good iced coffee except I realized this morning that literally all
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of my creamer was expired that's true luckily I didn't realize it in the bad way I said oh check those dates and I
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checked and I said wh oh three out of four you got to be in the trash yeah I know well I think it's still spooky
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season um sure it we'll never really know for sure when these when these published never going to know when
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episodes are coming yeah sometimes sometimes we look at Mikey and say what what day is this coming where what day
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is uh what's going on where am I hello but you know someday we'll know well hopefully it's still spooky cuz I put a
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spooky case hopefully it's still spooky either I think it is me and Dave davio worked on this davio davio exactly this
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is Latoya amens and the Demon House the Demon House the demon house this is um if it's starts to sound familiar to you
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at all this is the case that the movie The Deliverance was based off of it's Glen Close yes it's that one scene that
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you're all thinking about right now and if you're not thinking about it go Google it if you're not thinking about
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it you you can't have the internet yeah like you you don't have the internet you
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don't have the internet but yeah so it all started in January 2014 when a strange article appeared in the
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Indianapolis Star about Latoya aens an Indiana single mother of three who claimed that for more than a year she
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and her kids were absolutely besieged by demons in their rented house oh damn she
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claimed among other things that the house was constantly infested with black flies so right off the bat you're
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haunted oh yeah the kids were levitated from their beds oh [ __ ] her 9-year-old
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son became possessed and walked up a wall backwards oh my which like you might say that's silly that didn't
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happen multiple people saw this happen that were like I don't know how to explain what happened there and we'll
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get it we'll get to that point uh and that was just the beginning by the end of just one year in this house the
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family claimed that they were terrorized by all manner of Supernatural assaults from ghostly apparitions to straight up
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demonic entities oh my yeah things were popping off got Rachel stavis in here Rachel Rachel we need you Rachel could
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have cleared this [ __ ] up in a minute 100% in a minute yeah that's our girl that's our girl Rachel so her story
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might have gone completely unnoticed if it wasn't for the surprising number of witnesses that actually saw these things
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that's what takes this apart yeah like family friends police officers social workers it kind of reminded me of the
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House of flying objects that you just did cuz like people were like people that you wouldn't expect to sign off on
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this were signing off but still Latoya obviously wasn't without Skeptics or critics people accused her of
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fabricating the story to get out of her lease and others just assumed that she might have been straight up delusional
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yeah but who knows what the explanation was for the cause of events either way probably one of the most terrifying
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paranormal experiences I've ever read of damn let's go let's get into it so in November 2011 Latoya aens her mother
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Rosa Campbell and Latoya's three children 13-year-old Nate 12-year-old shantee and seven-year-old Andre moved
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into their new rental house on this quiet little treelined residential Street in Gary Indiana and that wasn't
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their real name no I'm actually using the names from the movie based on the case uh the
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Deliverance like we were just saying cuz the kids names aren't public yeah but it
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Min super confusing if I was like child a child B child c yeah and if they're not public it's like so I said movie
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movie but so the thing was things hadn't really been like easy for Latoya in recent years she was struggling to keep
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the kids on track in school but and among other things but the new house was an opportunity to kind of start fresh
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and her main goal was to make good use of that opportunity she's like we got a new space we're in a new area like let's
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go Fresh Start unfortunately things did not work out that way in any way shape or form problems with the house started
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almost immediately and it was early December when they started noticing swarms of these large black flies just
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gathering in um the screened in porch which was unusual because house flies can't survive freezing temperatures it
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was like Amityville yeah exactly but real yeah and Rosa remembered thinking this
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is not normal we killed them and killed them and killed them but they just kept coming back which is so gross yeah and
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then other strange experiences followed pretty quickly a week or so after they noticed the Flies Latoya and Rosa
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started hearing just inexplicable noises in the house always after midnight well
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after the kids had gone to bed and it sounded like someone with heavy footsteps was walking up the stairs from
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the basement into the kitchen [ __ ] that which is what we heard our whole [ __ ]
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say that was my parents house you always heard boom and it sounded like work boots walking up the steps MH and
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sometimes it was like I would hear it in the basement like at like late at night
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but then sometimes you would hear footsteps on like the main stairs too which was and you go over there and
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nothing was there literally nothing I wouldn't even go over there I was like way too scared but yeah some they were
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like is somebody breaking in the house like cuz they would literally hear the door open and closed what the [ __ ] but
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they would come out of their bedrooms to investigate like you're brave ass and there was no sign of anybody in the
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basement or the kitchen but they did notice that when they would turn the kitchen light on to get a better look it
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would flicker making a crackling sound for a time and then stop ooh which is like so creepy that's horror movie [ __ ]
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literally a few days later they both decided that they were going to leave their bedroom doors open in the hope
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that they might catch a glimpse of whoever was climbing the stairs cuz they kept hearing it night after night so one
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night a little after 3:00 a.m. of course of course Rosa was woken by the sound of
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footsteps just like all the previous nights and when she looked out into the living room she saw the shadowy figure
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of a man just pacing back and forth no yep nope yep just get get rid of the whole house burn it down Burn It To The
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Ground yeah so the next morning she went out to investigate and uh she went with
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LaToya and they found quote what looked like muddy Footprints from a boot I would assume someone broke in my house
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that's what they thought they 100% thought that like completely concerned that someone might be breaking in they
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ended up putting a lock on the basement door but on subsequent nights they would
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hear the footsteps climbing the stairs they would also hear pounding on the door as if whatever it was was trying to
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get in the kitchen what the [ __ ] yeah I literally have chills just talking about
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pounding on the door like no in the middle of the [ __ ] night so they they're like dealing with all this
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Latoya is trying to keep the kids on track in school and she's also trying to keep these incidents from the kids
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because she scare the [ __ ] out of them yeah they're young but the speed at which things escalated made it
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impossible to hide the fact that something was obviously wrong with this house one day about a month after moving
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in Shante got home from school and she went to put her things in her bedroom but when she tried to open her bedroom
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door it wouldn't open she said it was like as if somebody was holding it shut from the other side oh no so after
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several tries to force the door it finally popped open and there was nobody in the room
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what the [ __ ] she probably assumed it was one of her younger siblings like [ __ ] with her yeah and then no one's
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in there and you're like you're like hello hello in my parents house we would have been like oh the door just swelled
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yeah exactly we the amount of times we blamed like weird [ __ ] on the swollen doors in the house had just swelling
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doors or creaking or just the house settling it's fine don't worry in the middle of winter we're like oh it's it's
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the doors they're swollen they're just swollen but the family also noticed that there were indications of a problem
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seemingly all over the house it wasn't just the basement the kitchen just like one bedroom their cell phones often
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failed to work despite full service the picture on the television was constantly
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getting interrupted and Latoya and Rosa had constant mechanical problems with their cars and the sticks to adjust the
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Venetian blinds always seemed to sway back and forth on their own e which something about that yeah that's I just
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that's ew I don't like it like I don't like it for Latoya the most uh disturbing experience was learning the
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extent of what the children had experienced in the house cuz she's trying to keep this from them um just
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like Rosa had seen shadowy fig that shadowy figure in the living room the kids also saw what they believed to be
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spirits in the house both boys this is one of the scariest things you'll ever hear in your life so buckle up
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buttercups oh God both of the boys reported seeing an elderly lady in the backyard who they described as looking
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like quote walking death with red eyes I got that feeling that like where just like blooms out the chills from within y
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like the chill just came from the center of my stomach and that's a that's a WM yeah that just but it didn't even feel
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like a w cuz to me that feels more warm okay just was a it was cold it yucky I'm
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going to vomit yeah I don't like that at all I think I'm assuming that's probably
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what like who Glen close's character was but I hav seen the deliver when you look
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at a picture of her character yes uh yeah she looks walking death with red eyes yeah and the youngest son Andre
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would spend a lot of time with a what he said was a boy his own age who he would
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like play and talk with and according to Andrea and Nate the boy would typically
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appear in their closet yo yo just the long B yo just silence like in look when a ghost appears in the
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closet uh-uh they have bad intentions no one I'm not appearing in someone's closet in the afterlife unless I want to
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[ __ ] their world up you know who appeared in front of the closet for me in my life she didn't have a body she
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was just made of Bones see and I can still see her in my mind I'm here's the thing I'm horrified that you witnessed
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that as a child it hurts my soul but also it's a cool story though would kill to have the image in my head that you
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have I wish you could project it out yeah I'm not an artist so maybe I could talk to Shawn for mostly Horror oh my
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God describe her in vast detail yes I think I think he could draw it I'm going to text him after this yeah Sean if
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you're listening Sean we're coming for you she had like cotton candy hair like it was like white but it was like that
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texture it was scary yo you got to write this down I don't know why I'm in a place of yo right now but I need to have
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you been hanging out with Cale you need to I know right you need to write all these details down so he can make
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because we all need to see the the actual vision of this woman it's so funny cuz I have so many memories of
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like nightmares from when I was little that when I was little I didn't think were nightmares like I thought they were
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real and then I'm like and now you're like were they real they probably were I have a lot of them like that's scary
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yeah it is but then I'm also like is it like the tra tra I was going to say is it trama is it trama or nightm I don't
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know could be mix of both I know for a fact to the she didn't have a body she was just made of Bones she's she was
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real oh you said that from the time you were little yeah like that was that was a that's never changed I drive by that
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building and I look up out the window and I'm like you're like she's up there there she is I guarantee you interview
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if a [ __ ] kid lived in that they'll see she didn't have a body she was just made of Bones definitely yeah 100% but
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that's the thing I'm like a kid showing up in showing up in someone's closet means you mean business yeah cuz if I'm
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in the afterlife I'm showing up there are some people in my pocket right now that I
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will show up in their closet oh and it will be me trying to [ __ ] their whole world up absolutely so I wonder like how
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that works like how do you decide where where you go do you get to sign in for the day like you're like today I will be
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showing up in this person's closet and you have like sign in I kind of like so everybody knows where you are yeah this
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person's closet covered it's like in Beetle Juice sort of like when they're all like newly deceased everyone's
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hanging out I think it's something like that I think so there's an office for sure and who I'm coming scary well back
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to the aim and haunting cuz it's so scary the for months the activity just continued disrupting everybody's lives
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and before long the Paranormal Activity started affecting the children physically oh no they were experiencing
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this is like so sad they were experiencing regular bouts of vomiting fevers diarrhea things that kept them
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from going to school oh no later Latoya also reported that she would discover blood on their pillowcases frequently
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and she believed it was coming from their mouths oh my God yeah like something was up oh this is so upsetting
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and just like so everybody knows I believe in this one like the we kind of like debunked the uh amville there like
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it's already been debunked so we talked about it this one I believe this is scary it's scary and just the sheer
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number of people who witnessed some like the things that Latoya was saying well that's what that's what's really taking
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me for a ride is like that this isn't you know like the house of flying objects where it's like there's one
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person in the room always like you know you can at least somewhat be like maybe it's a mixture of things or it could
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just be one thing or the other who knows this seems like other people that are in
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higher positions that would go in as a skeptic because they have the best interest of like the children and
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everything in mind are seemingly witnessing this like you're saying so like have social work and like police
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officers yeah so that's interesting like literally writing things in their reports of like this is inexplicable
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that's scary yeah it is and then Rosa her health started uh like a noticeable decline she had three different kidney
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ailments that struck her one right after the other like living in this house up until that point like before then she
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had been fine and then she moves into this house and she starts having all these kidney problems kidney [ __ ] is bad
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yeah whatever was happening in the house had already taken a serous toll on everybody's physical and emotional
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health but things just continued to get worse and worse God how on March 10th 2012 the family was all up late into the
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early hours of the morning um they spent the day mning the loss of a close family
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friend unfortunately and from the living room Rosa heard Latoya screaming mama mama so she went running to her
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daughter's bedroom where she witnessed 12-year-old Shante levitating several feet above her bed completely
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unconscious what the [ __ ] mhm she said I thought what's going on why is this happening and she immediately grabbed
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her Bible and the family surrounded Shante praying over her until she descended back onto the surface of the
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bed what moments later she woke up with no memory of what had happened she had no idea that that just all happened holy
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[ __ ] and people are like praying loudly around her and she didn't wake up until
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she like hit the bed and then like woke up a little bit after according to Latoya the guests who were staying at
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the house that night left and refused to ever come back after the inent yeah so other people saw this and are like [ __ ]
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that and are like I'm literally never stepping foot in that house again my God it turned out that the levitation
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incident was just the beginning of the physical torment that the family was about to endure that weekend Shante was
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sitting on the couch in the living room and she felt something grab her and yank
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her off the couch throwing her to the floor a few hours later so that same day one of the boys was in the bathroom when
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he claimed something grabbed him and jerked him to the floor and this is like aw
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quote pulling on his Limbs and genitals what the [ __ ] yeah like demon demon activity holy [ __ ] according to Rosa and
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Latoya when they entered the bathroom after hearing his screams they could see something pushing outward from the
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inside of his stomach what this is [ __ ] up in every way imaginable it's unreal holy [ __ ] and
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then a few hours later so again same day Shante was targeted again this time she
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was lifted off the ground and thrown thrown into the refrigerator my God insane it turned out that whatever kids
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I know and this poor parents like Jesus just everybody house this happening to their kids and it's sad like and this is
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not a family that can just like pack up and go to a hotel for like that's the thing it's not like that's not you know
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an option for for of people like that's the thing like to just be like oh well [ __ ] that I guess we'll just go right
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pay this rent and also pay for something else exactly and this is a bigger family
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too like this is five people that's a lot damn so it turned out whatever was harming Rosa Latoya and the children
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also wasn't limiting it to just the family later after family and friends left the memorial that they had at the
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house several of them reported that something quote followed them home giving them a heavy feeling or headache
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that took a couple weeks to finally dissipate what and this is multiple people who said this and we'll get there
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in a little bit but a police officer also claimed this holy [ __ ] yeah it's interesting again this isn't just this
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family being like Oh yeah when no one's here all the [ __ ] is happening and you're like yeah no people would come
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over and see [ __ ] and be like I'm never going back to that house and then they'd
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go and have their own follow them oh my God crazy that's terrifying so it got to
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the point where no one wanted to come over and a lot of people weren't even down to like associate too closely with
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the family cuz they were scared yeah so while Latoya and the kids had already endured various forms of unexplained
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phenomena and forms of Supernatural harassment I guess you could call it the incidents that occurred on or around
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March 10th were much more aggressive than any of the ones before God how Rosa Campbell told her daughter we need help
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we need to talk to somebody who knows how to deal with it but neither woman knew precisely what it was they were
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pretty convinced though that it was Supernatural in nature so they went to the church to try to rid their lives of
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this yeah which honestly I'm not even a believer and I think if all of this was happening to me might find a church I
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don't even know like that's and especially if you're already religious Rel of course like that's going to be
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your that's where you go your outlet mhm so they started with the leadership at the church they attended but they were
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pretty disappointed to discover that while the clergy at their Church were sympathetic they didn't really take them
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very seriously and [ __ ] up it is it is [ __ ] up and they said like sorry we don't know what we can do to help it's
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like these are members of your congregation that are coming to you and isn't that like the whole point of you
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yeah you're supposed to offer in times of need you're supposed to offer your assistance you would think and aren't
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like demons your thing say you're passing that donation basket around sure like come on this poor family like this
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Mother with three children that she's taking care of by herself with her mother living with her you're not going
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to try to help no like just come in and do a blessing that's just bless the house you don't need to do an exorcism
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you don't need to do anything crazy just come in and say most churches like I think a house blessing is pretty
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standard standard I was going to say I feel like every paranormal case that we like talk about where the church does
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get involved they at least come down and do a blessing a lot of times they're like yeah I don't know what we can do
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but we'll do the blessing yeah I don't it doesn't even sound like they did that for real that reminds me if you guys
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haven't read the September house yet by Carissa Orlando read it nice especially this spooky season yeah read it okay
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it's a real [ __ ] good book and this made me think about it a little bit oh okay yeah so they were even more
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disappointed to find out that this was the case with all the other churches in the area they went and talked to
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multiple officials at multiple churches and all were sorry to hear about what was going on but they said they weren't
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in a position to assist with paranormal we can't come and just bless your house for you make you feel better we can't
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and we won't we we can't make you feel better sorry sorry like um and that's [ __ ] you believe your whole life in
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something like yeah and they don't help you in your time of need they turn their
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back on you and this seems like a [ __ ] demon isn't that the whole thing like the whole thing is like demons suck
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let's get rid of them I think so isn't that the whole shebang so it's like I'm pretty sure can't just come in and toss
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some holy water around at least to make maybe this will help make that family feel better yeah exactly like you know
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even need to be like a you know an official ceremony or anything just come in bless doesn't have to be anything
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crazy yeah do anything literally anything but after failing to find literally any help within the churches
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in their area Rosa called her mother Ruth and explained to her what was going on and it just so happened that Ruth had
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a neighbor who quote belonged to a church that dealt with Deliverance more than Rosa and Latoya's Baptist Church so
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the neighbor offered to speak with the pastor at her own church to see what they could do to help now while she
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waited to hear back from Ruth's neighbor Latoya and Rosa took the advice of one local church and they cleaned the house
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from top to bottom with ammonia and then they used olive oil to make the sign of
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the cross on every door and window okay and they also performed a similar blessing on the children pouring the
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olive oil on their hands and feet and making the sign of the cross on their foreheads so desperate for any kind of
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answer Latoya also re uh reached out to two local clairvoyants who informed her that quote the family's house home was
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besieged by 200 demons and the best thing they could do was move 200 demons which when you hear that
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you're like what the [ __ ] that's insane but also I feel like it kind of makes sense with the level that they're able
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to assault like it takes a lot of power like even we were talking about the house of flying objects and that sounded
00:26:36
like a poltergeist like that takes a lot of energy to build up it takes like weeks and weeks and it seems like this
00:26:43
started happening to them like almost immediately 100 demons 200 demons and that these people are like the only
00:26:50
thing you can do is get the [ __ ] out of here and like ultimately yeah pretty much uh the explanation of the Demonic
00:26:57
infestation made sense to Latoya and Rosa because they were both Christians but they were barely scraping by as it
00:27:03
was so moving just wasn't financially feasible at that time so instead they set up several altars around the house
00:27:10
draping end tables and white fabric and adorning them with religious icons statues Bible uh passages and they also
00:27:17
took the advice of the local clairvoyants and they burned sage in each room of the house from top to
00:27:22
bottom until the smoke was so thick that it became difficult to breathe I mean that's not good like they're desperate
00:27:30
like that's that's not good everybody also if you're saging you're supposed to have the windows open I was going to say
00:27:34
is it's not supposed to like build up in there no cuz the whole thing is like you're saging something out so the I'm
00:27:41
pretty sure like the smoke carries it out also like and again like I've always said it like I'm you practice whatever
00:27:46
religion you feel I would never sway you against that or anything like that um but as someone who doesn't practice that
00:27:54
religion or a religion uh the idea of this like demon infested home and now all these altars are set up going to
00:28:01
piss them off well no it just it it is so chilling to think of I'm like this must have been the scariest mhm setting
00:28:10
of just this demonic chaos with all this religious paraphernalia around cuz like
00:28:16
religious horror to me I was just going to say is the scariest like because it just the the lay yeah it just brings a
00:28:23
different vibe to it I love it like it's it really like really brings it to a place yeah and this to me is like but to
00:28:30
think that this is real life like cuz I'm like this is religious horror right here like setting up all the altars and
00:28:35
[ __ ] then I'm like oh my God this was someone's existence yeah and like three children and like that's so scary and
00:28:43
imagine just like going to sleep for the night yeah just like wrapping up the day
00:28:47
in that house in that house what's going on in that house how it's all set up now
00:28:52
and you're at your like most vulnerable Fu and they're all just desperate as hell and it's like I would living at my
00:28:58
friends houses at that point and be couch surfing yeah seriously but it's like again but your friends have
00:29:04
distanced themselves because they're scared that they're going to have things attached to them and there's five people
00:29:08
here like you can't just show up on somebody's doorstep five people like most most people don't have friends that
00:29:13
are like yeah all five of you can say inde definitely you know so to Latoya surprise the rituals performed around
00:29:20
the house actually seemed like they worked for three days things in the Aman's house were finally peaceful no
00:29:26
incidents no activity but the peace they experienced in the wake of the cleansing
00:29:30
did not last long after 3 days The Assault on the family worsened considerably so I think it like pissed
00:29:37
them off the demons according to Latoya the demons like I'm speaking of the Demons the diamons according to Latoya
00:29:45
she and each of her children experienced demonic possession she said the kids eyes bulged evil Smiles crossed their
00:29:52
faces and their voices would deepen every time it happened no yeah and she said she felt weak lightheaded and warm
00:30:00
whenever a demon overtook her body she said you can tell it's something different something Supernatural I hate
00:30:06
this soon after Andre took to spending his afternoon sitting in the closet with the ghost boy who often told him what it
00:30:14
was like to be murdered oh my God I have chills that just will not evacuate I like literally
00:30:24
I'm like what the [ __ ] yeah like my littlest had skeletone that you all know but skeletone was just sitting there
00:30:32
being like I got a family yeah and I'm going to go visit my family he said I'm going to leave and he never came back he
00:30:37
just left and that's great and he never Never Scared anybody never said like hey
00:30:42
I was murdered he just hung out yeah you know this little boy if she told me like
00:30:46
he was telling me what it's like to be murdered no I don't know what I do no like I say I'm like oh I would do no I
00:30:52
don't know what I would do I I think I just start crying yeah for a long time that is such an upsetting thing to think
00:30:57
about crying and never stop yeah oh my God and eventually The Entity started moving from one child to another so
00:31:04
quickly that Latoya and Rosa wouldn't have time to react before it moved from one to the other like if she was trying
00:31:10
to get three kids in the car she said one would run to the car and start kicking it one would be rest restraining
00:31:15
the other would be and the other would be thrown to the grass then one would start cussing or saying it's time to
00:31:20
kill do or doing some sort of demonic chant where one would stop and the other would pick up just where the other left
00:31:26
off what the [ __ ] like no and she's just trying to like get them in the car to go somewhere for
00:31:34
the day no no no no no no you know how hard it is to get three kids in the car son's possession yes like they
00:31:45
essentially are possessed like no matter what're and you Conant state of needing
00:31:50
an exorcism trying to get them into the car yes and then to add actual possession into it no no uhuh no thank
00:31:57
you mm-m holy [ __ ] and then when the entity would leave them they would just immediately
00:32:02
fall asleep like they were exhausted oh that's so upsetting it is sad yeah so by
00:32:07
early April the kids are missing school on a regular basis and the administrators actually became concerned
00:32:12
about their well-being so out of options and with literally no help coming from the church Latoya took the kids to their
00:32:19
primary care physician in the hope that he might know what to do which I think to me proves how desperate she is she's
00:32:25
going to the kid doctor the doctor Dr um Jeffrey anaku I believe it is said 20 years and I've never heard anything like
00:32:34
that in my life I was scared myself when I walked into the room wow so like it was visible what they were going through
00:32:41
a reporter for the Indian Indianapolis Star was given access to the doctor's clinical notes from the visit and he
00:32:46
describes quote delusions of ghost in the home and quote hallucinations among the children and describes all of them
00:32:53
as delusional I mean which he's looking at it from a point of view of of like I can't just sit here and be like yeah you
00:33:00
have ghosts I'm sure that's what's happening he's seeing these kids going through it
00:33:05
he's thinking child abuse exactly and that's got to be his first concern it was of course unfortunately like you can
00:33:12
understand and I understand that this was probably [ __ ] horrifying from both sides you know like but you can
00:33:17
understand the doctor's that he's looking he's thinking of these kids and yeah you know he's not in the house and
00:33:22
unfortunately um Child Protective Services had they had a history with this family they been involved before so
00:33:29
the doctor's notes are clear that he believed them to be a family experiencing a mental health crisis the
00:33:35
statements from medical staff but so he thinks that but the statements from the medical staff in the office that day
00:33:41
actually painted a different picture really according to one member of the staff who was later interviewed by I
00:33:47
think they're DCS now department of children's services according to one of those workers during an interview Latoya
00:33:54
told the intake staff many stories quote regarding demons and spirits and that her home has various demons and evil
00:34:00
spirits due to somebody dying in the home but regarding the children's Behavior staff reported that during the
00:34:06
examination Latoya's youngest son was quote lifted and thrown into the wall with nobody touching
00:34:13
him like medical staff saw this happen medical staff who worked I don't know if they were all doctors or nurses but like
00:34:20
the staff the staff working at this office like literally saw this with their own eyes and wrote it down whoa
00:34:27
yeah and that's that's the thing that makes because those are the things that make me just go what because like you
00:34:32
know there's some parts of this where you go like is is there a severe mental health crisis happening here and like
00:34:37
some like religious delusions and all that stuff like is that happening yep and then you see something like that and
00:34:42
you go what the [ __ ] is that right cuz how do you explain that how do you explain that cuz you if he like stumbled
00:34:48
into the wall yeah I'd be like okay that's probably a mental health crisis he was lifted and thrown into the wall
00:34:55
and there's a crazier thing that happens later that's just inexplicable other medical staff reported that this the
00:35:02
specific child was quote making growling noises and his eyes rolled into the back
00:35:06
of his head what which that I feel like you could kind of do on your own but still still yeah the situation finally
00:35:13
ended when Latoya wrapped her arms around him and he became limp and was placed on the bed at which point the
00:35:19
medical staff actually called 911 yeah cuz what the [ __ ] is going on yeah they
00:35:22
requested emergency services so several minutes later an ambulance arrived along
00:35:27
with seven or eight police officers and the children were taken to the Methodist
00:35:31
Hospital in Gary according to Rosa when the boys came to in the hospital Nate acted rationally but Andre screamed and
00:35:39
thrashed like resisting the medical staff this is so sad it is it's awful at the same time an anonymous call was
00:35:46
placed to DCS and requested that the state open an investigation into the possible abuse of the aiman's children
00:35:53
for possible child abuse or neglect M the caller indicated their belief that Latoya was suffering from symptoms of
00:35:59
mental illness and quote the children were performing for her and she was encouraging their behavior which is
00:36:07
awful but you can understand why somebody might somebody might have thought that if they're not seeing
00:36:12
everything going on in this house like all of this is behind closed doors and then they're just hearing reports of
00:36:18
this that's the thing their job is to keep children safe and I can understand somebody calling worried about the kids
00:36:26
100% so DCS case worker Valerie Washington met the family at the hospital that day and opened the
00:36:33
official case into the alleged abuse and neglect at the same time all the children were physically examined and
00:36:39
found to be free of any outward signs or uh of abuse no bruises or anything like
00:36:43
that meanwhile Latoya was examined by staff at the Methodist hospital and determined to be of sound mind see this
00:36:50
is the stuff that makes me go what the [ __ ] is going on here it was only in her
00:36:54
interviews with the children that Valerie Washington started to think something actually strange was happening
00:36:59
within the family if not the house itself M according to interview notes from a discussion with Shante the girl
00:37:06
told Washington that quote at times she has weird thoughts and unnatural events take place in the home during the
00:37:11
evening time she also reported being thrown across the room and grabbed by Dark Shadows a few nights ago that's
00:37:17
horrifying so scary and for a child to be saying this is so disturbing and shant is older I think um I think I said
00:37:23
at the top she's 12 yeah so she's like not like a little little kid just like making up a story you know what I mean
00:37:30
well that's the and also it's like for Latoya to be you know you're going to be looked at as possibly abusing these
00:37:39
children or that you're going through a mental health crisis so if this is really happening you're going out of
00:37:44
sheer desperation because like you know what you're going to face absolutely and
00:37:49
she's already faced it but she was so desperate that she went for help when she could have just kept it to herself
00:37:56
if that was what was really happen you know what I mean the abuse was happening I completely agree so it does tell you
00:38:01
something that she was so desperate that she opened herself up to this KN cuz she
00:38:06
had to know yeah you know this was going to be the the first thing they were going to think of and she still opened
00:38:11
up to it to be like help please like I don't know what to do which so devastating and that's it is absolutely
00:38:17
and that's what's so sad about the fact that she went to all the churches she did first I think she was like can we
00:38:22
please like find some help here so I don't have to go this other so I don't have to go somewhere else and get
00:38:27
thought that I'm hurting my children yeah like that's awful I can't imagine how that would feel because you hope no
00:38:32
parent would ever do something like this to their children no knowingly sometimes
00:38:36
DCF does invest or DCS they're like called a different thing a lot um I think here it's DCF I think so people
00:38:43
call in cases to be [ __ ] when like abuse isn't happening and people are investigating yeah for sure like you
00:38:51
they have to but they're mandated reporters it's she she's going through it and she
00:38:57
knew exactly so by far the most unusual event and this is [ __ ] crazy by far the most unusual event that day occurred
00:39:04
while Andre was being interviewed by Valerie Washington he told Hospital staff that quote ghosts were attacking
00:39:10
him and his brother but before he could finish his statement he had a quote weird grin and walked backwards up a
00:39:18
wall to the ceiling he then flipped over his grandmother landing on his feet there were multiple people in this room
00:39:27
in including the casew worker Valerie Washington who saw this happen Okay I can't explain this I can't
00:39:34
explain this according to those in the room he never let go of his grandmother's hand so he held her hand
00:39:42
walked the wall backwards onto the ceiling and flipped over her body I'm and it if this again if this is just
00:39:55
the family saying that this happened and no one else was was there and you're like I would be like that is the dumbest
00:40:00
thing I've ever heard like I that would be akin to the idville story where it's like too far you know Kathy Lutz got
00:40:07
levitated up off the bed and then just levitated towards the closet for no reason I'd be like no one else was there
00:40:13
except for you know George Lutz like w we say and y'all are trying to make money on this seeing that a social
00:40:19
worker was in that room witnessed it and wrote it in the report yes which puts their own job in danger because it makes
00:40:28
them look a little cooky cooky and there was medical staff in the room who were like what the [ __ ] yeah no one Els and
00:40:35
people aren't going to be putting their whole [ __ ] careers on the line here no to keep up with some hoax for no
00:40:40
reason and even like police officers were involved at this point later in an interview with the police officers asked
00:40:46
maybe if the boy had run up the wall or performed some kind of like acrobatic you got it you're they were like yeah
00:40:52
but they everybody in the room insisted no he walked up the wall backwards and flipped over one of the nurses at the
00:40:59
hospital said he walked up the wall flipped over and stood there there's no way he could have done that and when
00:41:08
this happened both Valerie Washington the case worker and the nurse who was attending to these children ran out of
00:41:14
the room in fear like ran out of the [ __ ] hospital room okay something's there's 200 demons in this house like
00:41:21
I'm 100 there's a lot of demons like it's happening so when Washington and the nurse they literally ran out of the
00:41:27
room terrified and grabbed a doctor and was like I don't know what the [ __ ] going on just walked on the ceiling like
00:41:32
let's can we backwards let's fix this so they reported to the attending physician
00:41:36
what everybody had just seen and the doctor was like yeah [ __ ] off that didn't happen cuz like how do you I
00:41:42
would say the same thing he's a man of science like this man is being like there's no [ __ ] con I'm going to fire
00:41:48
both of you like how could you like he's like one of you doesn't even work here and you're fired fired he told the nurse
00:41:54
okay so if Andre walked up the wall backwards then he'll do it again but he was not only unable to repeat the move
00:42:01
he had no memory of what even happened the first time he told the doctor I didn't walk up a wall I can't walk up a
00:42:09
wall what the [ __ ] and when he tried he was unable to get his foot like his footing or balance because like who can
00:42:18
walk up a it's one thing to like it would even be shocking if like he ran up the wall and onto the ceiling and down
00:42:25
like that's an acrobatic move of like someone show me how to do that yeah show me to be walk backwards slowly up the
00:42:33
wall and onto the ceiling where gravity makes that impossible y like and he's 9 years old that's the thing like I'm
00:42:40
pretty sure I said at the beginning he was 9 years old I'm trying to keep everybody's ages in check holy [ __ ] but
00:42:44
he's like he's a he's a b he's a b that would be like one of the girls just walking up the
00:42:49
[ __ ] like that's just let me know if they do that anytime it's the ceiling that gets me the fact that he walked all
00:42:54
the way up the wall and onto the ceiling and then flipped back down yeah like gravity my friends yeah but despite
00:43:02
having witnessed the wall walking and generally believing the story of demonic possession the nurse still admitted that
00:43:08
the children's Behavior was likely due at least in part to mental illness she was like something's a foot here but I
00:43:15
also think mentalness is playing into this ding them to this like whatever is happening in this house might be
00:43:21
literally making them mad absolutely so that night Latoya spent the night in the
00:43:25
hospital with her youngest son while her mom returned home with the other children the next day was Andre's
00:43:30
birthday and he's in the hospital like going through this so Rosa and the children came back to the hospital to
00:43:36
celebrate but the celebration was shortlived oh no not long after they gathered in Andre's hospital room Latoya
00:43:43
got a call from Valerie Washington informing her that DCS decided it was in the best interest of the children to
00:43:49
temporarily remove them from the home until the situation was resolved and there was a plan for their safety moving
00:43:56
forward and that's on his birthday on his [ __ ] birthday which I'm like you couldn't have done it one [ __ ] day
00:44:02
later that's the thing like what the f I get it I know there's a m like I was involved in DCS as a kid like I get it
00:44:08
but I don't know and it's just like and you can see why they came to that conclusion because obviously they might
00:44:17
this might not even like be against Latoya you know what I mean they're saying that home is unsafe it's just
00:44:22
yeah it's the saf we watch something happen in that home that we can't explain they need to be out of that
00:44:27
house and you can't remove them from the house right now so it's just such a it's
00:44:32
such a sad situation it is a situation like getting so sick in that house that they can't even go to school like this
00:44:38
is affecting every part of their lives yeah and right but my goodness but to be separated as a f like it's just so sad
00:44:46
and on your child's birthday on your young like your baby's birthday and he's in the hospital he one has to spend his
00:44:53
birthday in the hospital and two he gets moved to like a foster home on his birthday Latoya must have just been
00:45:00
yeah so Latoya later told a reporter it was obvious we were a team and we were beating it whatever it was we made it
00:45:07
through together as a team and they separated us oh that like breaks my heart yeah she was like that like really
00:45:13
bre heart Mom that's a mom that's a single Mama right there being like this family is a [ __ ] team makes me want
00:45:19
to cry oh like that like breaks my heart it really does anything hearing about like DCS and foster care and stuff and
00:45:25
like it's traumatic having to be separated just like it's such a sad yeah and obviously that has to happen it's
00:45:31
necessary like like some in many cases it's the best thing that can happen but like when you hear about it it's never
00:45:38
it's always devastating no matter what it's traumatic well that's the thing even if you coming from this [ __ ]
00:45:44
awful environment mhm that's still devastating that one you had to live that and now you have to live in the
00:45:50
unknown right as a kid no who had no [ __ ] business having to deal with that I know I actually like like I just
00:45:57
said I was involved in DCF and luckily I never had to go to foster care because I
00:46:01
had like you and Ma and papa yeah but I think about fostering sometimes just to like give back to just just to that's
00:46:08
like that that that's them hofers if you didn't hear in the other episode yes I'm
00:46:13
I'm on the Hofer train this year I [ __ ] love the Hofer they're just like they're a perfect shining example of you
00:46:19
know a lovely Foster family and it takes like just just a sidebar here it takes such a specific human to to be able to
00:46:27
do that because yeah if you're a foster parent [ __ ] Kudos billions and billions of Kudos cuz
00:46:33
they will get like a newborn in the middle of the night and then you bond with that baby and then sometimes and
00:46:40
you know what they're coming from and sometimes you have to give that baby back and obviously the the goal most of
00:46:46
the time is to reun for DCF is to reunite the M goal which in my opinion is not shouldn't always be the goal but
00:46:55
oh but knowing fight right that knowing as a foster parent that like that's the goal and that you
00:47:02
may have to like you got to be like what a selfless human being you have to be to just be like I want to
00:47:08
make this child's life as loving and beautiful as I can for the time I have them yeah but then I'm just going to
00:47:14
have to put my own like Devastation aside and sever that bond to give them back to like continue their life right
00:47:23
like [ __ ] you have to see be such a selfless person and also there's [ __ ] who completely use the fost it
00:47:30
for the money like we were talking about uh couple cases ago they were foster parents and you're like hello you really
00:47:36
got like the best and the worst yeah I think I would just end up with 45 million kids cuz I just like I'll adopt
00:47:41
this one too adop them yeah 18 kids let's go I couldn't even I don't even think I could Foster an animal and it's
00:47:47
just and it's because I just will end up with all of them like I there's no way I
00:47:52
couldn't no I know it's it's a it's an angel it's a special person truly you're a special kind of person if you do that
00:47:58
I think Sabrina Sabrina Sabrina just fostered some kittens and she's an angel she is a
00:48:04
[ __ ] angel Sabrina and kin are both Angels truly but yeah sometimes I think about it like I'm I'm not at a point in
00:48:11
my life right now where I would do it may later someday in the future I would think about it it's beautiful beautiful
00:48:16
but anyways back to the case in the formal paperwork uh Valerie Washington noted the children's physical or mental
00:48:22
condition is seriously impaired and seriously endangered as a result of Latoya inability to supply education or
00:48:29
supervision which is rough in simple terms the amount of school that the children had missed due to the
00:48:35
everything that was going on was seen as neglect unfortunately that does constitute neglect and the home
00:48:42
environment was not one that was promoting safety no cuz shit's going down but according to Latoya she could
00:48:47
not send the children to school sometimes because the spirits would make them sick or they would be up all night
00:48:52
with no sleep so they couldn't go to school that's horrifying she's in between a rock and a heart
00:48:57
yeah but like I said earlier this was not the first time that the DCS had been involved in the family in 2009 a case
00:49:04
worker was assigned for the same reason but at that point there was no mention of spirits or demons or anything it just
00:49:10
the kids not going to school not going to school and not having enough supervision which also she's a single
00:49:15
mother I'm sure she's working multiple jobs like it's a tough position to be in you know but anyway about a week after
00:49:23
the children had been removed Valerie Washington conducted a home VIs visit to Latoya's house accompanied by three
00:49:28
police officers two of whom just joined out of quote professional curiosity I honestly couldn't blame them on that
00:49:35
friend because you're like what is going on here yeah I'm pretty sure this is like a smaller town yeah you know so
00:49:42
people are hearing this and they're like I want to go so inside they discovered several makeshift altars around the
00:49:47
first floor of the house as well as several Circles of salt which Latoya explained had been put in place to
00:49:53
disuade the demons which walking into that would would be horrifying absolutely and I'm sure these officers
00:50:00
are like okay immediately I'm sure they thought she was mentally ill like 100% there's like some you know religious
00:50:07
mania going on here yes like that's exactly what they thought was happening so good that's what I would think so the
00:50:12
officer officially tasked with accompanying uh Valerie Washington on the visit was Gary Police Captain
00:50:17
Charles Austin he was a veteran police officer with more than 35 years experience and he later told a reporter
00:50:25
that prior to his involvement in this case he always believed in ghosts but he did not believe in demons but after
00:50:32
investigating the case he changed his mind 100% wow among other things he claimed there were unusual and
00:50:39
unidentifiable excuse me Silhouettes and the photos that officers took in the basement that day which actually LED
00:50:46
them to believe Latoya's story of demonic possession [ __ ] and like those who left the house after the family wake
00:50:53
Austin actually believed he was followed home by some sort of entity that day that caused tons of electrical problems
00:51:00
in his house for several days what the [ __ ] this is a policeman with 35 years on the force who didn't believe in
00:51:09
anything like this my God like he was like yeah I think there's ghosts but like no there's not demons and then he
00:51:13
left and he was like oh there's demons and one follow one came to my house no not long after the children were removed
00:51:20
from her custody Latoya was informed that they would remain in the temporary custody of the state until she could
00:51:25
prove that she was responsible and stable enough for them so to her that meant she would have to rid her house
00:51:31
and herself of the demons that was that were plaguing the family for months fortunately help was actually much
00:51:38
easier to find this time around than it had been in previous months after hearing the story of what happened at
00:51:43
the Methodist Hospital the hospital chaplain David Neville reached out to one of his colleagues Reverend Mike
00:51:50
majino the pastor at a church in nearby Merillville unlike many of the other clergy in the area minino was actually a
00:51:58
True Believer in demons and did have some knowledge of exorcism oh we found one we found one we will always find one
00:52:04
yeah you got to find one but he informed Neville that before he could do anything
00:52:09
he would have to speak with the family and then if it was warranted he would have to get permission from the bishop
00:52:14
to perform the right of the exorcism that's such an interesting that that interests me so
00:52:21
much to cuz I you I always thought exorcisms were one of those things where it was like a priest was like here I
00:52:26
come coming to do an exorcism and it was just like yep the fact that there's like
00:52:29
they have to go through like special permissions and like it's like a you have to be like approved to perform this
00:52:37
right and everything it's very interesting yeah you have to like jump through hoops and it's interesting that
00:52:42
like I feel like a lot of the cases that we cover the priest is so insistent on getting The Bishop's permission like
00:52:48
they're like I'm not [ __ ] around without his permission exactly and then you have Ed and Lorraine who are always
00:52:53
calling yeah the arch dases it's crazy and always getting permission somehow always getting permission but then the
00:52:59
arch dases they forget they're like no no permission was made they get quickly get one of those men in black like mind
00:53:05
erase or things and they're like we didn't do that we didn't do that and Ed and luran are like they don't get they
00:53:09
did it wor about totally shut up they Li so in late April minino met with LaToya
00:53:14
and Rosa at their new rental apartment in Gary where they gave him the lowdown on everything that happened in the
00:53:19
previous months everything they told him was compelling but he asked for permission to review any additional
00:53:25
material including any law enforcement or Hospital footage or documentation and they agreed to provide it but it wasn't
00:53:32
until he accompanied Latoya and two Gary officers back into the home that his belief in Latoya's case was absolutely
00:53:40
cemented according to the Reverend when Latoya entered the house for the first time since my interview with her oil
00:53:46
seemed to condense and drip onto the steps from the crosses she made above oh it also appeared all over the blinds in
00:53:52
her bedroom [ __ ] when he reviewed the police footage from from the walk through later
00:53:57
that afternoon there was no traces of oil or any other unexplained phenomena that actually occurred like when he was
00:54:04
visiting what strange despite what he believed was compelling evidence of demonic possession the bishop Dale Mel's
00:54:12
check I think denied his initial request for permission to perform an exorcism the Archbishop said no denied he did
00:54:20
however suggest that majino uh minino excuse me contact other priests in the area and ask them for training in the
00:54:27
right of a minor exorcism oh [ __ ] I didn't know there was different levels of exorcism there are and now I'm so
00:54:33
interested I think it'd be fun to kind of talk about on an episode and like dive into the different levels cuz I
00:54:38
didn't know all this I didn't either so you can do a minor exorcism and that does not require the church's approval
00:54:44
those are the ones I'm thinking about where they just run on in and perform an ex loophole in the case of a minor
00:54:50
exorcism a clergy member will use prayer and religious symbols and other statements to drive out any negative
00:54:56
entities that might be you know in the home or space so after making some phone calls the Reverend did locate a priest
00:55:02
who was willing to provide the information necessary and about a week later majino was back at Latoya's former
00:55:08
house this time to drive out whatever had been tormenting the family so in addition to himself and Latoya the
00:55:14
exorcism was attended by Virginia Washington the case worker the case worker and officer Samantha ilck I think
00:55:21
it is from the Gary Police Department and another unnamed officer um Samantha had been at the previous walkthrough and
00:55:29
was actually somewhat skeptical of Latoya's claims but was willing to give her the benefit of the doubt she was
00:55:34
like I want to see this I want to see this [ __ ] cuz and she's like you know my
00:55:38
captain there has become a Believer maybe I will after leaving the house that afternoon she said she was fully
00:55:44
convinced something evil was in that house damn she said we felt like someone was in the room with you like someone
00:55:49
breathing down your neck oh I hate that yeah so as majino prayed throughout each
00:55:54
room of the house he instructed l to look up the names of the demons that could possibly be inhabiting the house
00:56:00
but each time she tried to do so the computer would shut down without explanation that's why you need an
00:56:05
ancient Tome of course no stop using technology nope you need ancient to you need ancient dusty ass to has anyone
00:56:13
watched Buffy you fliping through yeah and it makes that sound and you find your thought you find you find the Damon
00:56:19
it's true that's what it is but the deeper she dug for the right uh the right name the sicker and more
00:56:24
light-headed she got making the process so arduous and just completely unpleasant so finally they discovered
00:56:31
the demons inhabiting the home were Basel buub the Lord of the Flies be elub thank you the Lord of the Flies and
00:56:38
quote other high-ranking demons including lieutenants and sergeants that torture and hurt
00:56:44
kids I didn't know those were things I did not know there were sergeants rankings Among The Damons it's a whole
00:56:52
Community I had no idea it's very militaristic it is I don't like that I'm not into it the fact that be elub is
00:56:58
there like you damn don't say it too many times in my house please you're just like you got like the you you got
00:57:05
the demon I'm quite frankly palosanto in the room after this yeah as you should yeah with the windows open palosanto me
00:57:12
too please before I leave oh I will whenever we talk about demons I think we should start palosanto because I do
00:57:18
think some weird energy is building up in the Pod lab and we're in my house right now and that shit's not welcome
00:57:23
yeah it's not happening thank you so the prayer and ritual went on for several hours during which time Latoya was
00:57:29
becoming more weak more exhausting or more exhausted excuse me she later said I was hurting all over from the inside
00:57:35
out I'm trying to do my best and be strong but eventually she fell asleep which she said was quote the Demon's way
00:57:41
of lessening the rituals effect like knocked her out essentially ultimately majino performed a minino I don't I keep
00:57:49
going to say like making it fancier I love it Mao performed three exorcisms between May and June during during which
00:57:56
time Latoya and Rosa actually had moved to Indianapolis but they drove back to Gary for each ritual cuz I think I I
00:58:04
don't know if she was paying rent on this house and her next house but she's trying to get her kids back you can tell
00:58:10
but finally at the last exercism in June majino changed tactics and quote paraded
00:58:15
the demons in Latin rather than English which he claimed was the key to successfully driving them out and at
00:58:23
hearing the Latin words in scripture Latoya started to convulse and then went slack and seemed to be asleep he said a
00:58:31
prayer of thanks over her sleeping body and when she woke up she and Rosa went back to Indianapolis where they claim
00:58:37
they have not experienced any demonic activity since so in Cabin in the Woods when he
00:58:45
says do not read the Latin he's wrong apparently you read the Latin I think you can only read the Latin if you know
00:58:51
the Latin and what what you're saying yeah you don't want to just read willy-nilly Latin never if we tell you
00:58:57
one thing if you take one thing away from this episode never read Latin willy-nilly yeah don't just willy-nilly
00:59:02
you got to know about the Latin yeah but in November 2012 roughly one year after
00:59:07
this whole ordeal began Latoya did regain custody of all three children and her entire family started participating
00:59:13
in inh home based Therapy Services good according to one report filed with DCS they quote have not experienced any
00:59:20
issues with demonic presences or spirits in the home in Indianapolis and are moving on from that point in their lives
00:59:26
damn the report goes on to say the family continues to attend church regularly on Sunday but the family is no
00:59:31
longer fixated solely on religion to explain or cope with the children's behavior issues whoa so I think DCF
00:59:38
definitely was like there's too much yeah Reliance on religion going on here to a point where it's dangering on
00:59:46
religious mania yes exactly in 2014 a long form article in the Indianapolis Star about the family's experience
00:59:53
generated an unexpectedly large amount of national attention and thrust the family right back into the spotlight
01:00:00
Latoya said I figured that I'd get an uproar from my hometown but I never imagine that it would go viral just four
01:00:06
days later Zach beIN of Ghost Adventures who Zach beIN oh a man named Zack bin I
01:00:13
don't know if you've heard of him he bought the house from the owner for $35,000 and subsequently made a
01:00:20
television documentary about the house which I will be watching today I will be watching that later yep he referred to
01:00:25
it has the next Amityville wow and I added but real I was just going to say I don't know if
01:00:31
you want to throw that one on there you're like the next hoax exactly I I believe in this one a lot more I
01:00:39
definitely like I'll be honest I think there were probably parts of this that got dramati how do you say that
01:00:45
dramatized yeah dramatized I would say dramaticized I feel like that's can you is that a word too dramaticized
01:00:53
dramatized you decide I'll take both I think there were parts of this that got both of them that did both of those
01:00:59
things and I'm sure you know sometimes the kids were like oh I can't go to school I you know
01:01:05
demons I think overall they did experience a lot of what they said there is something very unexplained in this
01:01:12
situation 100% there's something that does not the fact that many people saw a kid walk backwards up a wall and onto
01:01:19
the ceiling and then flip over his grandma while holding her hand you're just never you're never going to tell me
01:01:24
that that wasn't a demon yeah that's the so it there's other things that for sure
01:01:29
you can question and just at least be like huh okay well and then but this next part to me I'm like huh cuz like we
01:01:37
all know Zach beins has an entire [ __ ] Museum filled with the most haunted [ __ ] on the planet yeah when
01:01:43
this documentary was finished he had the house demolished whoa yeah just after the release of the documentary in 2016
01:01:51
he told a reporter something was inside that house that had the ability to do things that I have never seen before
01:01:57
things that others carrying the highest forms of credibility couldn't explain either there was something there that
01:02:03
was very dark yet highly intelligent and Powerful whoa so Zach beIN was like I don't want to [ __ ] with that we're
01:02:11
demolishing that house holy [ __ ] the man who will take like every haunted [ __ ]
01:02:17
thing into his Museum to me was like let's get rid of this that's like I have chills on my legs right now like can not
01:02:24
be like we're going to save this house and they continue investigating he was like nope no we should just get rid of
01:02:30
it mhm completely got rid of it so interesting and several years later Latoya's story was adapted into the
01:02:37
Deliverance this year yeah this year isn't that for some reason I thought that movie had been out for way longer
01:02:42
you're probably thinking of Deliverance I was that's exactly what I was thinking
01:02:46
um definitely different Netflix released it and it was directed by Lee Daniels and it stars um Andre day and queen Glen
01:02:53
Close oh and Glenn I've never had actually seen the movie I haven't seen the movie well I've seen like the stills
01:02:59
of like we're not I'm not seen the of Nana Nana Glenn there Nana Glenn I want to watch it and I want to watch the the
01:03:07
documentary I'm dying to watch the documentary now yeah cuz nothing is more fun than watching a Zack BAC Zack BAC is
01:03:15
such a character or or a Taps I love a I love a ghost hunting yes yes ghost ghost
01:03:21
adventures and Ghost Hunters Ghost Hunters I I prefer Ghost Hunters personally me too uh but there's
01:03:27
something to be said about all of them isn't this an interesting case though that was a very interesting case like I
01:03:34
90 I would say I 98% believe most of what happened there it's funny because we went from like a straight up hoax Tom
01:03:43
like straight up Shenanigans nonsense and then we went to the house of flying objects where you
01:03:49
could be like all right I think there's a little bit of something happening here
01:03:53
but who knows what is it you know the kid going through it and there's like this energy that's building it what's
01:03:58
going on right but you think there's like a little bit of each and then you go to this one and you go a kid walked
01:04:04
up a wall and onto the ceiling and flipped over his grandma and for a whole [ __ ] room of people yeah that's a
01:04:10
differents DCF case workers were writing things in their reports where they were
01:04:15
like yeah some part of some parts of this are inexplicable yeah nurses were like yeah I'm we didn't even mean to do
01:04:22
that either like put them in that order know that they like went into like nonsense like might be real kind of
01:04:29
thing it was a nice way to top off spooky season I don't know if this is the last spooky season episode or not I
01:04:36
have no idea we have an we have a fun guest coming up that's a little bit spooky yeah um but he's also just like a
01:04:42
fun guest to have yeah he's just a wonderful human being he's lovely we going to be recording that tomorrow so
01:04:47
it might be the next episode after this yeah and then we have our fun Halloween episode oh actually that's the episode
01:04:54
after this there you go I don't really know to be honest but you know what Halloween oh the episode is fun I'm so
01:05:01
excited you're GNA you know you're going to get a little Nifty gifty along with it so so look out for that yeah and fun
01:05:08
subsequent gifts to come yeah cuz we're we're excited about this one thing not really gift yeah I shouldn't say gift
01:05:14
like you're not going to hold a gift in your hand no uh a fun a fun thing that we never do yeah exactly but we might do
01:05:20
more of soon yeah uh so yeah look forward to that um and we hope you keep listening and we hope you keep it weird
01:05:29
but not so weird that you walk up a wall backwards and flip over your camera after your grandma after walking on the
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ceiling my grandma my grandma [Music] oh [Music]