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hey weirdos I'm Elena I'm Ash and this is [Music] morbid it's morbid and today I'm being
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bullied in the office everybody honestly I can't even like say that's not happening no I'm I'm getting actively
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bullied by not only my sister but also my employee and friend Mikey I burped and you know people burp okay and let me
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just no hold on I she's saying it like she burped oh I just burped once no I wasn't finished yet but you're just
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still bullying me no we always burp a lot in here it's kind of our thing and Elena burps all the time and it l feels
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like it sprays blood at people because they feel so sharp coming out of her [ __ ] face it's like you're like oh my
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God ducking cover somebody call someone she's bleeding out of every orice and then I burp and you know
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they're a little liquidy I like like they're not liquidy like I taste liquid this is so gross but like it's fine but
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they they sound a little yucka Elena has told me for all of my life that they sound like the bog of Eternal stench but
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today everyone decided to go deeper it's like an episode of the vile files in here we're going deeper and Mikey said
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to me Mikey said to me you know actually I feel pity for my mouth is my jaw un clicked from
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the top part and it's on the floor pity you you pity me's he PES your birth which are part of
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me which are part of me and so I got upset with him and then he was like no no no let me backtrack except dig my
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hole even further and he said you know what it is and I looked at him and I said don't [ __ ] it up don't don't dig
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this hole and this [ __ ] got a power shovel he said I used to work in a hospital what the [ __ ] does that have to
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do with anything I sound like a hospital this is like Mary Cosby telling me that
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I smell like hospital so anyway I'm upset um here's the thing you guys didn't think this episode was going to
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start like that all of that was correct it's true what she says is true true true statement thank um except what um
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she sounds like she's going to vomit every time she burp but we needed to take we needed to really describe them
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the reason is not like oh there's liquid involved it's like no you're going to throw up and so we all brace like she's
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going to puke I'm not every time and it's SC yours are scary yours come out of nowhere and I agree and sometimes
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they sound like a like a shot yeah like a I'm like here and here and lies the difference I know I know too I'm not
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dispelling I'm not dispelling that that description of my burps I'm not dispelling it but it hurts my feelings
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you just don't have as many feelings as I do okay and the pity I feel is cuz I love you I don't want you to feel gross
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you're making me feel gross get out of here scram she doesn't want to talk to you I'm getting fired
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M I usually fire Mikey on the rewatcher go listen to that but today he's fired from every job all of it no just kidding
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please please continue working for us don't leave don't leave oh my God anyways I bet you never thought you
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turned on morbid today that we'd be depicting each other's burps sorry guys it's been you know it's sometimes it'
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just be like that yeah today's a Loosey Goosey episode anyways I feel like it's going to feel a lot like OG morbid it is
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today I think uh I think we're we're we're feeling a oh now you're going to cough during my episode I pity
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you I pity you is that a little cough you have today I'm screaming just oh my God I'm
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literally crying um we have we have like a like today's like a spooky episode but
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also a true crime episode yeah for both of us um there's full true crime in here
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this isn't just spooky Yuki uh but there's also spooky Yi there's a little part of mine that I think like I'm going
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to give you like a preview like a a brief overview of what happened but I actually think I might cover part of
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mine on like a full-blown app like in depth and another and mine is like there's only so much information about
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it so I got as much as I possibly could and I told the whole story mhm it would have been a mini morbid had I not
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stepped up it it's true it would have been a mini morbid but but you know what come back but you know what maybe
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they'll come back maybe maybe maybe wink wink nud nudge maybe 2025 is a is a wild
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year here mhm so maybe we'll see mini Mor bids again someday maybe the theme song will come back maybe I'm not making
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promise I'm just saying it's possible we have to find the file do we have do we have that maybe we'll have to do it
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again I'll do it again an updated version oh maybe I maybe I'll like add a little flare on to it if that happens
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we're just like you know uh I'm going to get back in the studio yeah back in the
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stud you know the stew really I like that forgot the Pod lab I'm in the stew I'm in the stew
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uh yeah so maybe I don't know that's something to chew on but uh gross but other than that um it's
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we're we're trying to Spring is almost here everybody it's like 20 days to Spring and uh in New England over here
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uh it's been [ __ ] awful this winter it's been [ __ ] freezing and so godamn dry that I've been sick the entire
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winter uh I just got the neuro virus in fact like luckily knock on everything we
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were able to contain it to to just me which is always the goal uh but but yeah it hasn't been a
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banner season for me so so I'm I'm getting on my uh supplement game and getting myself out of this I'm telling
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you you got to start drinking armor colostrum I think it has saved me this winter cuz I did I got neuro virus but I
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didn't get any of the colds that you guys were all getting I didn't get one cold this season I know not one
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yeah it's crazy and it tastes like watermelon yeah that's true that's a win-win right there no colds plus
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watermelon well I've been drinking liquid IVs liquid IVs are also great we love a liquid Ivy we do um and I've just
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you know I've been doing some turmeric and Alber and zinc and vitamin C she got me on the turmeric all the all the good
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things just trying to boost that immune you know immune system you got to but uh
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going into cuz I want to go into spring and summer and fall and all the fun Seasons healthy healthy th you know but
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I've been reading a couple books that are really good yeah and I figured I'd just like quickly share them with you
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guys in case you're looking for something to read do so so I just read fantastic Land by Mike
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Boven uh it's really good and the audio book is [ __ ] phenomenal nice it's super fast-paced it's like um it's
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basically about a bunch of people getting stranded in a um amusement park during a hurricane and having to survive
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and it gets super gnarly I said nice but nice you're like fun that's great that's
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great for them good for them uh it was really good though I thought it was really fun if you're looking for
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something really fun really dark really [ __ ] up hell yeah and right now I'm reading this wretched Valley by Jenny
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kefir oo and so far it's really good really spooky I'm very intrigued by it nice um and and we're just I'm trying to
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get more Leisure reading in done this year so I'm also trying to do that I we try to share our recommendations yeah I
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was I told Elena about story graph it's like where you can log all your books and it's women own which I love love
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that um I read what have I read so far I did so thirsty by Rachel Harrison I thought it was pretty good it's like a
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quick read it's fun yeah just like like a fun Vamp tale and then I just started our book club book me and Elena have a
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book club with the two girls one ghost girlies Sabrina and Kar our brother colon coven hell yeah um and we're
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reading god of the woods I just started it I think you're going to like it yeah I'm excited to start that one it's
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really good and I've heard really good things about it yeah so yeah I have a bunch on my Tob red yeah my
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entire entire bookshelf is Tob red I have a whole space on my bookshelf that is me and Drew went on on Bens a& Noble
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date the other day and I was like damn I'm just buying all these books when I already have like 400 that I haven't
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even read yet oh I have a problem with books it's a fun thing to buy it is I love books I will never regret buying
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too many books and something about Barnes & Noble I'm like I just want to buy everything here I just want to buy
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all the books all the books mhm it's true it's great great I'm also on a yellow jackets kick me and Drew have
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literally flown through each season within like I think it took us maybe two weeks yeah it was actually like very
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impressive there how quickly you were able to we took some time off um you and I for February vacation for the kids and
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there was a couple nights that Drew and I just stayed up until like 3:00 a.m. like weren't tired like just stay Stayed
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up and so we watched like a ton of yellow jackets and now we're up to like current your yeah we're caught up and we
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got John and Elena to start watching it it's true we're only on episode two because we can maybe only get one
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episode Done a night like we have to skip nights in between and stuff so it will get there eventually it'll take us
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a while but so far I really I I like it yeah I'm I'm intrigued I think so far it
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really pops off in like the middle to the end of the first season and then season three so far I think it's only
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been three episodes the fourth one I think comes out tomorrow fourth episode it's season 3 is like I'm like oh [ __ ]
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it really goes there yeah I couldn't watch the plane crft scenes because it's a little too yeah I told her too
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visceral I was like tell tell John like the end of the first one told me when it
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was fine to watch again and then they do like the flashback that's a [ __ ] scary ass plane crash I'm sure I'm going
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to be talking a lot about playing crashes today cool yeah that's fun yeah it's part my Lake it's part of your your
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Lake lore my Lake lore correct yeah and honestly that brings us right to it that
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we're going to be talking about some spooky Lakes today spooky lakes and like kind of for me like National Park cuz my
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lake is in a national park yeah there you go I like that go visit national parks and support them right now yeah
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support them yeah hell yeah and keep them clean cuz a lot of people just got fired who were keeping them clean yeah
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so go take care of them yeah and support them yep good call yeah um so do I can start with mine if you want better you
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better [ __ ] you better I was going to say you better start [ __ ] you better start [ __ ] you want a listener tail not
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a listener tail you want a spooky Lake this is a spooky Lake but it's going to start with a very real and very tragic
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murder oh um from 1906 okay so this is the story of Grace Brown's murder and it is a very tragic one uh let's start at a
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great place which is the beginning I love starting there uh Grace grew up in South o atelic I think it is in Chenango
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County in New York uh when she was young she grew up on a dairy farm and she attended school and graduated at 16
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years old she had a very like normal upbringing on a dairy farm very cute Farm upbringing nice um all was well
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until she moved to Courtland and lived with her sister aah now living with her sister she needed to find a job and she
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found a good one it turns out she ended up working at the Gillette skirt Factory
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in courland and a on beginning her employment there she quickly became acquainted with the owner's nephew
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Chester Gillette H uh he also worked there with her he was from a wealthy family um but he was kind of all over
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the place like he was a little bit of a mess he could never hold down anything steady and he was kind of just living
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the high life with no responsibilities fun um so and he was also like very much like macking on all
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the girls there but he really focused in on Grace M so his uncle had tried to get
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to help him on the straight and narrow and he offered him a job at the factory that's how he got the job it was good
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pay it was full-time so he was fine to take it because also there was a lot of women working there that's kind of his
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ideal sitch it really is um and he also probably like the power he got from being like the nephew of the owner like
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it's the Gillette skirt Factory and his he's Chester Gillette like and you don't
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have to do like anything probably yeah so it wasn't long before 20-year-old Grace and she was 19 when they met but
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20 um when she died okay um she was 20-year-old Grace and 23-year-old Chester began dating uh it was a Tor
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Affair as all workplace Affairs tend to be a love a Tor Affair uh but it was all
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secret of course it was all very secret not just because they worked together but because she was a dairy farm girl
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who came from a farm background he was a wealthy man about town socialite who was
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sought after by every girl in the upper class in the area and every girl in every class in the area MH um he was
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essentially ashamed to be dating a young woman who is considered to be lower class like lower social scale than he
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was what a douchebag he was a douchebag he didn't want people knowing he was dating a factory farm girl okay then
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don't date a factory farm girl because she can probably do better than you anyway so don't waste her [ __ ] time
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she could have done so much better than him I guarantee you he's scum between a Troll's
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toes Not only was he Keen to keep this thing under wraps but he was also free and openly dating and sleeping with
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other women right in front of Grace uh Grace was not pleased about this and expressed this displeasure often but he
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didn't give a [ __ ] he just didn't care how she felt great and it devastated her
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cuz I think this was like she was young and she had grown up on a farm you know like this was her big first big job and
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I think this was like the first time she had actually been in a big relationship
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well and also like you think about the this you know Vibes here like it's like the big shot nephew of the owner of the
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company that you work for takes an interest in you like she must have felt so special but then he's acting like a
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dick yeah he also convinced her to be with him unchaperoned which was Scandal at the
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time U because he didn't want anyone knowing they were together so they couldn't have a chaperon right uh and
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honestly this was a big deal and obviously now you're like woo but back then this risked her entire reputation
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yeah like he did not give a [ __ ] that he was putting her entire social reputation
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at stake here because he would have been fine yeah he didn't care at all um he also and he just never took her in
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public ever he would never take her sad and that's so sad that that's the treatment that she felt she like was
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supposed to be taking at time it must have felt so demeaning yeah absolutely things got worse though near the summer
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of 1906 when she told Chester she was pregnant oh no and it was definitely his because she was not seeing anyone else
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he panicked and she was also very anxious simply because it was 1906 it's not like unwed young mothers were
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treated like mag magical beings creating life no they were treated like [ __ ] who were unfit to be in proper Society
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like this in fact at um from what I've like you know all the things that I was reading and seeing about this it was
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literally like the amount of women young women who who uh ended up killing themselves because they felt it was a
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better outcome than the social ostr what is it atiz yeah that's why did I like I
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totally blanked on how to say the word it's the it's going from the T to the that's what it
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isation there you go good call ostracization oh I was kind ofation ostracization that's hard to say yeah it
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was better than being ostracized by Society is what is what I'm thinking here I love that you're like you know
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what we're going to just say that's hard to say so uh anyway yeah so this was like a big deal it's not great so she
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knew she had to hide out but she couldn't be around everybody she went back to her family's farm and she
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communicated with chester through letters um it was Chester who encouraged this in fact telling her to go hang out
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with her family and everything was going to be fine basically go away get out of
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my face like you [ __ ] dick he's a total dick he was very negligent with her feelings very much still sleeping
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around and very uninterested in the idea of being a good partner or father yeah uh but he was also a liar and a very
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good manipulator he had to have been you got it's it's that kind of guy so he had
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to keep her on a leash a bit because he was a guy who wanted to have his cake and eat it too before she left he had
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been ignoring her and making her feel just awful but when the letters began she basically found herself desperately
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begging him for attention or any kind of Hope or hint that they would be married
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because she it's also like he's got this like all this money and everything it's
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like she doesn't have any resources to figure this out so she's relying 100% on him to figure out their situation that
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they got themselves into that's the thing and she's like so she's basically like give me any hope
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that you're going to marry me so that I can go out into society again right I can't go out with this child until we're
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married and like and so you know and she started getting the attention that she was looking for he started telling her
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yes he would marry her and they would have a life together and just wait it's going to be fine like he started
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promising what he knew she wanted I feel like that's not going to happen no then
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one letter changed that he told her he wanted to whisk her away for a romantic getaway and she was probably so happy oh
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yeah he told her he wanted to take her to the ader Onex in July and this felt like the moment that he was going to
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propose she thought this was the wedding trip either proposing or we're actually
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getting married M and sources say grace was just over the moon excited so they left in July and stopped at the hotel
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Glenmore at Big Moose Lake and they ate at ala Cliff Cottage and they checked in
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with him using an alias so that's [ __ ] weird he used the Alias Carl Graham and she used her real
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name so that was already I'm surprised he didn't have her use a fake name I well I think he's also a [ __ ] idiot
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that's good um as we'll see so I think that was part of it uh according to the evening Courier a waitress there named
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Grace green wood said she witnessed them having dinner the evening before Grace was killed and she said Grace was quote
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unquote hysterical at dinner oh apparently Chester was trying to console her trying to tell her you have to eat
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and she said she just couldn't oh God I wonder what happened what the conversation was exactly now the next
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morning this waitress saw her again and described her as quote unquote depressed
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like she said she looked devastated you wish that she was just able to like whisk her away I know that's thing come
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here girl we'll get you in a separate room now on the the way to the hotel they took a bus and the driver asked
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where they wanted to go and this will just give you another little like inight into like Chester's way of like it
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sounds like he was just being a dick so the bus the driver was like where do you
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guys want to go and Chester just gruffly answered any old hotel oh nice Charming
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you're romantic getaway and you're just like whatever dump you want to bring us to cuz he didn't care that's so shitty
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so the next day he told Grace he was going to bring her for a romantic picnic and they were going to take a boat ride
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oh no despite her telling him in a letter that she didn't know how to swim oh no they rented a row boat from a
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man named Robert Morrison uh they got on the boat and he brought them to the and apparently like
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Robert didn't come on the boat with them he just rented it to them um but Chester
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brought them like rode them to the deepest and most isolated part of the lake she was probably getting more and
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more scared as this was happening exactly or even worse could be that she had no idea and just thought he was
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actually being like romantic right um and that's apparently the South Bay Area is like the deepest point in the lake
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once there nobody can really tell what exactly went down because it was only the two of them in the middle of the
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lake right uh but once there what did eventually happen was he beat Grace brutally with um a horn handled umbrella
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in a tennis racket Jesus and then threw her in the lake and mistress yes wow yeah Robert Morrison
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the guy who had rented them the boat said when they didn't return the boat around dinner he was suspicious of
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course but the next morning he and a few others went out to try to find them cuz
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he was like I hope nothing happen like and they found the empty boat in her coat and then came across her body oh
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and she was dead uh he had fled believable he hid out at the Arrowhead Hotel in Inlet and meanwhile during the
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3 days hid like the coward that he was he also called to get an advance on his pay and received one so he was planning
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on taking off yeah dipping and I love that later this [ __ ] will pretend and be like oh no I'm innocent I didn't do
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it and it's like why were you hiding out nothing about how you acted said you were innocent if this was an accident or
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something which obviously it's not cuz she was beaten brutally like they can tell that you dumbass but it's like even
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if it was an accident why would you leave your pregnant girl friend like almost fiance dead in a lake and leave
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the boat and then just hide out and ask for an advance on payment yeah like none
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of that makes any sense now when they came to CU they immediately they talked to her family and they were like oh
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she's with this guy like just so immediately they went to find him and when they did find him he actually tried
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to First claim he didn't even know Grace come on he is the father of her unborn child and he claimed he did
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didn't even know her also like I'm sure if they went to her house they would find a pile of letters exchang between
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the two of them when I say this guy is a [ __ ] idiot he's a [ __ ] idiot you also worked together yeah like are you
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[ __ ] Ser there's literally no way you can claim you don't know her he was arrested and immediately charged with
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her Murder She was covered in bruises and had a good head wound and lacerations to her forehead and her
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mouth when she was discovered and she was also discovered to be four months pregnant four months four months so she
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sat around for 4 months waiting for him just to like thinking he was going to come around that's so awful because he
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was also making her believe that he was going to come around exactly know that's
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so sad to think that it that long went on yeah his claim was that she first that she killed herself but like after
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beating herself up no one believed that according to the evening Courier they found the broken bloody tennis racket
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buried on the shore dude there was a lot to be made about whether she was dead before she hit the water during the tra
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um but the consensus did seem to be that she likely was he had beaten her to death and thrown her in the water he
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also claimed at one point that she jumped in willingly can't swim remember well she might have jumped in to get
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away from him exactly and he said he tried to help her and the boat tipped over but he arrived at the hotel he had
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out at with all dry clothing huh so imagine that the trial was Bonkers everyone was there he's a big name I
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mean very wealthy family like this is a well-known Bachelor the media went wild uh no one even knew he was dating this
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woman because they had kept it so Under Wraps never mind that he was the father of her unborn child and now he was a
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murderer of her and a child his own child on December 5th 1906 the jury deliberated for 5 hours and found him
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guilty of first-degree murder good uh he was sentenced to die in the electric chair fantastic uh he spent a couple of
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years at Auburn correction facility and apparently got some spiritual guidance along the way and sources say he
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confessed to the murder to many of them yeah to clear his own conscience exactly
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he was executed March 30th 1908 he did he exhausted all his appeals he tried to get out of it I think his mother even
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wrote a a letter to the governor trying to get that's sad a stay but she couldn't um that's sad for his mom
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because he put her in that position of course it is she didn't ask that she's a victim too uh I'm pretty sure his grade
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he was in an unmar grave and I'm pretty sure it got paved over by a road so there's
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that and no comment brother no comment on that according to atar around.com the murder of Grace Brown influenced the
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1925 ader onac folk song The Ballad of Big Moose Lake oh uh cuz that is the lake that she was uh drowned in and
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there's also a 1951 movie A Place in the Sun that is based on this story um uh and there's also a 1925 novel an
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American Tragedy that's based on it and a 1926 play about it and a 2005 Opera by
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the same name and that's just a few of things that have been influenced by this that's crazy now A Place in the Sun in
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an American Tragedy apparently take Chester's side a lot and basically say what side is that U they basically show
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Grace to be um what Robert Stack on Unsolved Mysteries said was they called her a woman of easy
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virtue basically a ho so we're [ __ ] chaming in the 20th century and that she should be murdered while pregnant
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because of that oh good fently so like [ __ ] those two things yeah [ __ ] them um
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now that isn't the end of the story because people keep seeing Grace oh that breaks my heart that she's at the lake I
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hate that she's stuck there yeah she's stuck at the lake uh people keep seeing a complete Apparition of a glowing woman
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walking the shores of Moose Lake um or across the surface of the lake that's really cool yeah and also see her
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walking down the halls of the Big Moose Inn where she stayed uh if she's not wandering the shore people will have
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seen her struggling in the lake trying to get help like almost like a repeat of what's Happening sometimes she's seen at
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the Cottages along the lake and like the lodge there and apparently she likes to
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turn off the lights all the time she doesn't like lights on um and I wonder if that's because it's like the 19 19 6
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you know6 of it all she's like I didn't live with electricity what is this kind of think it's too bright according to
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weird New York sometimes people recall feeling intense sadness around the lake almost like an uncontrollable dread uh
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they theorize that she and her child being killed trapped her there and she's somehow unable to continue to move on
00:27:19
makes so sad I know let's go I want to I hate that she's trapped there with all this like sadness around her yeah she
00:27:27
doesn't deserve that now this was Al also featured on an episode of the OG Unsolved Mysteries I heard you watching
00:27:33
it the other day that's right with King Robert Stack I heard that intro I heard that smooth but of
00:27:42
voice uh they talked about a group of people in this episode that worked at the covewood lodge in 1988 that's on
00:27:49
that's near Big Moose Lake um one of them Ronda said she stopped at the staff Lodge to turn out the lights and she was
00:27:56
with like a group of three other uh people who worked at the lodge and as soon as she went in she said she felt
00:28:02
like someone was there uh and she said she went up to like the top floor where like there's a balcony overlooking where
00:28:08
her friends were in the lake and she said uh she didn't see anything but she said she just like knew someone was
00:28:14
there like felt her just felt that and she said it was very strange very very unsettling and outside meanwhile her
00:28:21
friends saw a woman standing on the balcony glowing in white like if fully in like a 1906 Garb and she just was
00:28:32
standing there looking out onto the lake and then she and she just stood there and they all three of them said the same
00:28:39
thing that they saw the same thing and they said she stood there and then all of a sudden just dissipated and was gone
00:28:45
the tingli that are happening all over my B imagine seeing that I would the my Goosebumps have Goosebumps and they all
00:28:53
say that she's like has such a sad look on her face and she's just looking out over the lake cuz she just loved him and
00:29:00
he couldn't give a [ __ ] and then he's a piece of [ __ ] killed her in their unborn
00:29:05
child we got to get her out of there she deserves so much better we got to get her out of there cuz she's got to move
00:29:09
on to her next life which is going to be like a million times better with her B with her B with a better a man a better
00:29:15
husband exactly and the same episode tells the story of Linda Lee Mackin and her friend Bridget who vacationed at the
00:29:21
lake around the same time and they had flashlight issues because like I really don't think Grace likes this Electric
00:29:29
like they were going down to the lake and the flashlight kept dimming and then just shut off but the batteries were
00:29:33
like brand new scare the [ __ ] out and they said it kept happening and one night they went down to the lake
00:29:38
together just sitting there and it was like really dark out and they saw Mist coming close to them like over the top
00:29:44
of the lake and they were like wow that's so pretty like so spooky and then they said all of a sudden the Mist
00:29:49
formed into a woman and they said who just looked at them and they literally said it with such extreme sadness that's
00:29:59
all they could get from her and they said and actually Linda said she felt extreme overwhelming sadness herself
00:30:06
like she was like it was literally like I immediately felt just like hopelessness and sadness and she said it
00:30:13
was overwhelming and then the next day they were in the lodge and they were walking through like the lobby and
00:30:20
there's memorabilia about this like like old newspapers and [ __ ] and there's photos of Grace and Chester and they
00:30:27
said you could have knocked them over with a feather because they were like we saw
00:30:32
that picture of Grace and we were like that is the woman that appeared to us last night can you imagine having having
00:30:38
an experience like that jarring that would blow fuing mind like and she just appears to you like sad I'd be like what
00:30:46
can I do to help you I know like I I would not say that in that moment because I would probably [ __ ] my pants
00:30:51
I'm not pretending like I'd be like what can I do to help you be so confident my
00:30:56
[ __ ] would not be wrong like what can I do to help you pass through into help mode no I would not I'm not claiming
00:31:03
that uh but looking back on it you want to be like [ __ ] I want to stand in front
00:31:07
now if she appears you want to be like what can we do to help you Grace how can I get you not here I know cuz I don't
00:31:13
want you be on this Lake it's sad oh my God remember Ghost Whisperer yeah I never watched that oh it was Jennifer
00:31:19
Love huitt right yeah Jennifer Love huitt yeah Jay love Jay love she was so helpful she was such an empath good for
00:31:25
her man that show used to scare the [ __ ] out of me me as a kid though I'm sure
00:31:29
you probably shouldn't have been watching it yeah probably not but I always loved the end though because she
00:31:32
would help them like find the light and cross over yeah I like that I know I want to help Grace find whatever she to
00:31:39
find but that is the story of uh Grace Brown's tragic tragic murder and her now at Big Moose Lake and now her haunting a
00:31:53
Big Moose Lake mine's a little more Wy than that and a little more all over the place let's go all right we're heading
00:31:59
out to Oregon I said correctly I want to say Oregon let's go Oregon Trail we're going to Oregon uh I'm going to talk
00:32:05
about Crater Lake which is located inside of Crater Lake National Park if you can believe it I can't it is the
00:32:12
deepest lake in the United States that's really scary and I don't like that and one of the deepest actually in the world
00:32:18
no I actually hate that same it has an average depth of about 1,500 ft shut the [ __ ] up but that's not even as deep as
00:32:27
it goes that's the average the deepest parts are said to be close to 2,000 ft deep like just think of everything that
00:32:36
would be lurking underneath you as you treaded water I had to say that to you no you actually really shouldn't swim in
00:32:42
this Lake it's not very allowed but don't do it there's like certain parts where you can it's not very allow I was
00:32:47
waiting for that to hit you it's not very allowed it's not very allow it's not very allowed there's certain places
00:32:51
where you can but overall it's too cold and Too Deep like they don't recommend it it's way too deep don't do that yeah
00:32:58
yeah what what's that insane it's like [ __ ] cave diving don't do that well yeah don't do that do it no well the
00:33:09
formation of this lake is crazy it formed over 7,700 years ago badass which is crazy
00:33:17
when Mount Mazama the volcano erupted now the eruption was so large and so cray cray that it weakened the structure
00:33:25
of the volcano itself the volcano emptied its entire magma Reservoir and then it all just collapsed in on itself
00:33:33
and that's what formed where the lake is that's what happened to me when I had neuro
00:33:39
virus you got rid of your entire magma entire mag magma Reservoir and then I collapsed it on
00:33:46
myself iconic it's literally I've never I didn't know how I felt in that moment and that's exactly the description oh
00:33:55
wait just picture that like happening to a land the scariest thing I've ever heard it
00:34:00
literally created a 5 to six mile wide Caldera so like just like a yeah a crater essentially which over time got
00:34:08
filled with rain water and like melted snow and [ __ ] and that's Crater Lake the
00:34:13
fact that it is just an exploded volcano that collapsed on itself like a volcano
00:34:19
that emptied its entire magma Reservoir which weakened the stability of it and then it just like just
00:34:28
in on itself it did in fact and then it's like I I just like looking up at a volcano yeah must be unbelievable like
00:34:37
just the the size that give me the chilly Willies just the massive like the structure in front of you and then to
00:34:46
think of that the other way yeah and filled with water yeah like that is just like my
00:34:53
mind is like bending around that well like Tech I looked it up cuz I was like okay so like could it erupt still
00:34:58
technically it could still erupt oh [ __ ] but it wouldn't be like a typical volcano eruption obviously yeah it would
00:35:05
be a weird ass one yeah I don't think anybody really knows exactly what would happen oh my God Crater Lake is scary
00:35:11
guys it's so scary it's so big it's also surrounded by like all this like like Mountain Area it's beautiful but it's
00:35:19
it's got a Vibe it is it's gorgeous but it is knowing what that is is like yeah so
00:35:26
I'm not even going to be to hit like I'm hitting like the tip of the iceberg here
00:35:30
cuz so many different things have happened I we could honestly probably do a part two of Greater Lake cool let's do
00:35:35
it because it's got all kinds of crazy stuff going on there's some kind of water monster that people have reported
00:35:40
seeing fun like small little Tales but they're fun I love a Nessie situation there's paranormal parts of this y the
00:35:48
biggest thing that seems to be related to Crater Lake is disappearing planes ooh and like like
00:35:54
disappearing oh just like there and then not I don't love that seemingly inexplicable plane crashes have also
00:36:02
taken place all around this area and unfortunately there have been murders oh man now some of this haunted SL morbid
00:36:09
TM activity could have to do with the lakes's origin story so according to the clth tribe who lived on the land where
00:36:17
Crater Lake National Park now stands but like way before it became a national park yeah the god of the underworld who
00:36:23
I believe is Lao I looked it up some pronunciations say Yao but saw La more often okay so the god of the underworld
00:36:31
fell in love with the chief's daughter and when he couldn't take her back to the underworld as his bride he promised
00:36:37
he was going to do something real big to get back at this tribe it's giving Hades
00:36:41
and pan very much yes and that is when the volcano erupted uh massively causing the giant Caldera holy [ __ ] but luckily
00:36:50
the sky Spirit skell stepped in to protect the tribe from what was happening and came face to face with LA
00:36:57
and pretty heated battle the battle is said to have ended when skele killed Lao and threw him into the lake whoa
00:37:04
according to journalist Sarah Crocker who I got a lot of information from she wrote an article for grunge.com it's
00:37:11
called a look at Crater lak's morbid history oo fun uh but according to Sarah LA's body was eaten by monsters who were
00:37:19
living at the time oh it's kind of like the realm of monsters from moama Mo exactly but they left his head untouched
00:37:27
they said no I don't want that so it's just bobbing around the lake so people believe now especially the people that
00:37:33
belong to this tribe that La still haunts the area and the lake specifically that is so scary it's the
00:37:41
scariest and they said what a fascinating like origin story I love that origin story they say that they
00:37:48
don't think anybody should even look at the lake too long wow because it will they believe it will cause quote death
00:37:54
and Lasting sorrow holy [ __ ] [ __ ] so deep and creepy and spooky damn so let's flash forward
00:38:03
to the spring of 1944 for our first bizarre instance during World War I two I think it's groomman TBF torpedo
00:38:11
bombers were flying over the lake most likely running a drill of some kind there was a Navy a military base nearby
00:38:17
okay it was said to be a completely clear day as they were flying over the lake each pilot was keeping track of the
00:38:23
other the pilot who survived this drill said suddenly he looked over and just didn't see the plane that was
00:38:29
supposed to be flying with him it he like looked below him he didn't see it like falling out of the sky or anything
00:38:36
like that it was just gone just disappeared Into Thin Air what the [ __ ] now there's a lot of mystery surrounding
00:38:42
this particular case but it's a story connected to the case that's been told for decades some people even say they
00:38:47
saw a plane flying low that day and then disappear around the area of the lake really but not really there's like never
00:38:56
been any names associated with it it's never been like confirmed or denied to have happened it's just been like very
00:39:01
hush hush and a lot of people think it's so Hush Hush because the government didn't want to say much about it because
00:39:08
we were still actively involved in World War II I mean that does make sense and it wouldn't have been like a great look
00:39:13
for a bomber plane to just go missing disappear over a lake but it's entirely possible that this happened yeah there
00:39:21
is also a ton of other military planes that are said to have either crashed into or near Crater Lake throughout the
00:39:26
years or just completely vanished in in or around the lake but there's no actual
00:39:31
records to be found so could be Legends based on the lak's history but could be a hush hush thing you know now one plane
00:39:40
in February of 1975 that did in fact disappear near Crater Lake wasn't found for 7 years holy [ __ ] 7 years there were
00:39:50
three people on that plane um and on the return flight the pilot Dave nun and two
00:39:55
student Pilots Jim prior and Matt Perkins who were only 17 years old at the time that's heartbreaking so they
00:40:01
were on the return flight Gan nun had driven her husband Dave her daughter and her grandchild to the airport that night
00:40:08
and she said that she had a feeling for two weeks beforehand that something was going to happen in her family she just
00:40:14
had this weird feeling she couldn't shake but she didn't know obviously what it was going to be what are you supposed
00:40:20
to do she didn't know who it was going to happen to when it was going to happen yeah she just had a feeling but she
00:40:24
didn't think it was going to be her husband now this trip was supposed to to be simple they were going to fly to
00:40:28
Salem Oregon on Dave's private plane a blue cesna 182 and they were dropping off Gan and da and uh Dave's daughter
00:40:36
and their grandchild and then they were flying back to clamo Falls Oregon okay this flight literally should have taken
00:40:42
only 45 minutes oh my God like it's a super quick flight so after dropping everybody off at the airport Jean went
00:40:49
home and she said she felt a chill so she cozied up under an electric blanket and just fell asleep cuz again this
00:40:55
isn't supposed to her husband's not supposed to be gone long she's like all right I'm just going to take a little
00:40:59
nap go to sleep but she said she woke up that night around 9:30 and she felt the
00:41:04
sensation of a hand on her leg and she immediately knew that something had happened to Dave I just got so many
00:41:10
chills she ended up writing a book about it but she said the feeling just washed
00:41:15
over her and she immediately knew so she called the airport and she got as soon as she got on the phone she said the
00:41:21
plane must have gone down at 9:20 and Dave died at 9:30 I know it holy [ __ ] confirmed that they had lost track of
00:41:29
the plane on the radar at exactly 9:20 that night what the [ __ ] it was exactly
00:41:35
what she said now weeks and weeks went by search parties were trying to find this plane anywhere they could find the
00:41:42
wreckage weeks turned into months months turned into years and finally 7 years later in July of 1982 a hiker ended up
00:41:51
coming across the wreckage just outside of Crater Lake National par that must be
00:41:55
the most horrifying thing to come and contact with a plain crash a like you're and you're just out hiking like you're
00:42:02
supposed to have this great day with nature and you just find a plane crash like what the [ __ ] and three people
00:42:08
inside of it like he found three skeletons inside of it who were the two 17-year-old student pilots and Jean's
00:42:15
husband husband but she said she knew she knew all those years wow Jean crazy holy [ __ ] I want to read her book it's
00:42:23
yeah let me tell you what it's called I'm like damn Jean yeah her book is called we fly away oh Jean I know
00:42:30
there's a picture of her with like scrapbooks in one of these articles in the Heralds what is it the Herold news or
00:42:37
something um the Herold news yeah she um it's a picture of like Dave who was a Stunna a stun honey Stunna like that's
00:42:45
so sad and just like how cool to be a pilot and just be able to like fly your daughter in your grandchild home and he
00:42:53
was just trying to teach these two students about flying their about it so sad that makes me so sad but also like
00:43:01
so beautiful in a way that he was able to tell Jean that he had pass and she knew like she was able to like
00:43:08
understand in such a way that was like really comforting yeah probably exactly now another plane that crashed
00:43:15
and then disappeared unfortunately took much longer to find back in December of 1945 there were seven groomman Hellcat
00:43:23
fighter planes that were taking flight over crle uh Crater Lake National Park Park they were on their way to
00:43:28
Washington now it was really foggy this day there was a lot of fog especially lingering over the lake and while they
00:43:35
were going through it some of the pilots couldn't clearly see others so they made
00:43:39
it through the fog and they realized that there were not seven planes flying anymore one plane which was flown by
00:43:45
22-year-old IGN Frank Lup was just completely gone holy [ __ ] like lost track of it now before they went through
00:43:53
the fog a couple of the other Pilots did see him trying to change a gas tank like
00:43:57
while they were still flying but obviously something had happened and a couple of the other planes Pilots saw
00:44:04
lup's Planes start to descend slowly which I can't even imagine seeing that and that's your friend that like you're
00:44:12
out on this Mission with like you know something bad is happening and you can't stop it yeah so Flash Forward almost 25
00:44:21
years later in August of 1970 when a park ranger who was new knew working at Crater Lake National Park Jesus he was
00:44:29
hiking through the park and he just casually stumbled upon a human skull oh yep welcome to the job so obviously he
00:44:38
had to go report that to his head of Department y um he had an interesting way of doing so he told the story and
00:44:44
then just presented the head taking it out of his backpack and putting the skull onto his boss's desk I mean here
00:44:50
none of us know none of us know unless we've come across one definitely like don't move a skull that you find in the
00:44:55
woods yeah like we can say that with uh with confidence defin definitely leave that there but I also understand again
00:45:01
this is a 70 so he didn't have all that information and he was probably freaked out he probably freaked out an he
00:45:06
probably didn't think anyone was going to believe him and he probably didn't want to leave it there cuz an animal
00:45:11
could get it and move it and then he's just this crazy new guy yeah and it's not like he has a cell phone to pop a
00:45:15
picture really quick to be like here it is like let's go find it do exactly so instead he brought it with him and he
00:45:20
popped it on his Box's desk I guess that leaves no doubts it does but after the discovery investig investigators went
00:45:27
out to where the skull was found and they ended up finding the remains of the Hellcat plane holy [ __ ] and they found a
00:45:34
piece of equipment with a serial number on it so they were able to determine that it was lup's missing plane holy
00:45:40
[ __ ] and in a bit of happier happier ending lup's remains ended up being sent to his family so he could get laid to
00:45:48
rest sort of so now onto something very Sinister in 1952 55-year-old Char uh Charles Coan
00:45:58
and 56-year-old Albert Jones were found dead on Annie Creek in the National Park
00:46:04
the area where they were found they were found is only about 6 miles from the lake whoa both men worked for General
00:46:10
Motors and were in Oregon for work but while they were in the area they planed to go on a fishing trip with these two
00:46:16
other guys in the car business Jack vaugh and Frank eberlin so Jack Frank and Frank's 13-year-old son Allan showed
00:46:24
up to the park with plans to meet up with the guys but there were surprised when they only found their car keys
00:46:29
still in the ignition and the front doors both open it was like a little bit weird yeah but they were like maybe they
00:46:34
went to sightsee or something while they were waiting for us like strange but not
00:46:38
like yeah not super alarming so they waited a little bit to see if Albert and Charles would show back up but they gave
00:46:44
it 45 minutes and they still hadn't come back now it's alarming now it's alarming
00:46:49
so the two older men decided to drive down to a ranger station while Allan stayed behind in case the two men showed
00:46:55
up okay now 1 18-year-old Allen is just waiting in the back of his dad's car and
00:47:00
he sees a dark sedan pull into the lot and kind of like slowly pass by and take a he's looking like this driver takes a
00:47:08
look at the the car that's parked that's empty and then speeds off onto the highway huh so he's like okay like that
00:47:17
was weird yeah that was weird so shortly after that Park Rangers made it up that
00:47:21
way and started the search for these two men they enlisted Trail uh trail crew to
00:47:27
join the search effort as well the search went on for a day and a half until finally the two men were found and
00:47:34
there's a lot of strange details about how they were found they had both been shot in the back of the head at such
00:47:40
close range that there was gunpowder residue and burn marks around so it was execution style they both were shot by a
00:47:48
quote 7.6 uh I think it's 7.65 mm automatic pistol of foreign manufacturer okay which was weird and investig also
00:47:57
found two brass C uh cartridges on the ground they were each missing their shoes but it looked like the shoes were
00:48:04
taken after they were killed because their socks were clean huh Albert shoes were found not too far from the scene
00:48:12
but uh Charles shoes are still missing to this day this case is unsolved uh though somebody did try to
00:48:18
pawn a very similar pair of shoes after the bodies were found interesting they both had also been gagged with their own
00:48:25
neck ties and part of Charles's undershirt which is strange because they were both still wearing their dress
00:48:33
shirts so they had to have been like like part of the shirt had to have been torn off in like a struggle or he was
00:48:40
redressed at some point it's very strange yeah and it's like did they take the shoes off after they were killed or
00:48:46
did they take them off after they got them down on their knees right so they couldn't run who knows or they I don't
00:48:52
know possibly yeah maybe that's why their socks are clean yeah now even stranger both men's Dentures were found
00:48:59
in the pockets of their dress shirts huh like what their wallets were emptied they both were assumed to be
00:49:08
carrying around $300 and that was gone and lastly they both were wearing watches previously that were gone now
00:49:15
[ __ ] so it looked somewhat like a robbery but like like a very a bizarre one execution murder robbery right so
00:49:24
later an autopsy would show that Albert had a fractured skull and both men had been hit so hard in their groin areas
00:49:30
that they were bruised oh God yeah so they they put up a fight and they were they went through a lot before they died
00:49:39
it definitely seemed like there was more than one killer also to investigators they were both pretty big
00:49:45
guys too so it was unlikely to investigators that one person alone took them out mhm now like I said the the
00:49:52
case is technically unsolved but there were some good leads that came in after the murders I don't want to go into
00:49:57
every single one and I'm really giving you like a brief overview you want to cover it because I do want to cover this
00:50:02
a little taste there a little taste um but what I will tell you is that afterwards after like this got out to
00:50:09
the to the public a couple reported seeing two quote dirty unkempt men in an old car near the crime scene now
00:50:17
interestingly another man who was working a delivery route in the area had also seen what he described as two
00:50:24
scruffy looking men leading two nicely dressed men into the woods near Annie Creek on the day of the murders [ __ ] and
00:50:32
he said he noticed this and he also noticed one of the nicely uh Dressed guys make a symbol to the other guy like
00:50:39
a hand symbol like that like a gun Yeah so basically trying to tell the other guy like [ __ ] they have a gun or like
00:50:45
okay something like that like trying to like subtly warn him and he said he also
00:50:49
saw a black Pontiac Coupe parked on the shoulder around the corner from the scene which if you remember Alan saw a
00:50:57
so that's interesting now this guy this driver was driving again in the area the
00:51:02
next day and he kept running into those same scruffy men that he saw before and they were clearly making a point to
00:51:08
intimidate him he said they stared him down they ended up blocking him in at a gas station at one point the [ __ ]
00:51:14
driving that same black Pontiac that he had seen on the day of the murders so now he saw the car near the scene but
00:51:19
now he knows they're the ones driving it yeah and they just overall seem to be following him but obviously because of
00:51:25
this he was able to get a look at them one of the men who seemed to be the older one of the two he said had quite a
00:51:31
few distinguishable details that this guy remembered um and the the witness is his name is Lincoln so the man who had
00:51:39
all these like reme memorable characteristics was wearing a beaded belt that said Ralph he had a tattoo of
00:51:47
a woman in a bini and he was also missing one of his fingers oh so you'll remember that yeah you'll remember a
00:51:54
nine-fingered guy you sure will unfortunately the authorities didn't really take Lincoln's story too
00:52:00
seriously like he kept he kept telling them all this information but it seems like some of his uh reports weren't even
00:52:08
recorded at all like there are some that are on record and some like he was like
00:52:11
I also gave additional information and it's just nowhere yeah he said they that he thought the police thought he was a
00:52:16
smart alec cuz remember this is the 50s yeah so they did think he was a smart Al
00:52:21
they definitely did but weird almost 50 years after the murders and Lincoln's experience with two scruffy looking men
00:52:29
somebody new got eyes on the case a woman named Cheryl was taking a class at a local College when she heard the story
00:52:36
about the murders all those years ago and she just got deeply fascinated with this case and like started going down
00:52:41
all these rabbit holes getting every Last Detail together and she ended up writing a paper about the murders for
00:52:48
her class and it was like it was a really well done paper so she ended up giving a presentation later on the paper
00:52:55
at a local Museum in this area Cheryl yeah she's a queen so the presentation was attended by a ton of people who
00:53:03
signed in before joining the discussion and Cheryl's friend told her that the last man to walk into this whole
00:53:10
presentation was suspicious looking and while Cheryl was still presenting some of the paper this man went down and
00:53:18
started looking through the list of names of people who had signed in like like very into it like studying this
00:53:25
list [ __ ] that the other thing that they noticed about this man her friend he was
00:53:32
missing a finger shut up shut the [ __ ] up yep but that's all I'm going to give you cuz I want to
00:53:39
cover it in its entirety oh my God weird though what the [ __ ] now what I will tell you is it's technically unsolved
00:53:48
but there is a good set of suspects for this murder all right or these murders wow that's fascinating not a stange one
00:53:56
now on to the Paranormal apparently Park Rangers at the in the uh Crater Lake National Park will see campfires burning
00:54:03
in areas where they're restricted that's spooky now they'll go all the way out they and they'll say like we see
00:54:09
campfires we see people around the campfires and then they'll go out to confront the campers and be like you
00:54:14
can't have a fire here and they'll get all the way out to where they saw this all happening and there will be nobody
00:54:21
there and no campfires lit that must be so maddening and so [ __ ] creepy because you're like what was bidding me
00:54:28
out here what the [ __ ] was I seeing yeah exactly apparently this happens a lot
00:54:32
around wizard Island wizard Island you heard me Wizard Island was formed way back when the volcano erupted and is
00:54:40
named that because it apparently resembles a wizard's hat if like from an overhead shot [ __ ] yep there's also
00:54:47
another island in the lake called Phantom Island Phantom island phant is crazy this lake is the tits I love it
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Phantom island is named that because depending on what angle you're looking at it from you'll see it and then it's
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like this weird optical illusion where if you move slightly or like you see it at a different time of day you'll see
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the the island and then you won't suddenly like it like literally disappears in your line of vision that's
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really spooky and also wizard Island does look like a wizard hat it does correct and that's where a lot of the
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Phantom fires are seen oh [ __ ] yeah now finally on to the water monster of it all yeah absolutely there have been at
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least two sightings of the wster the wster the wster what the the I was going to say the
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theer the water monster and people say it looks like a dragon kind of like Nessie the lock Nest monster we love
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Nessie here in one instance there was a group of friends who saw the the Crater Lake dragons swim under their robot my
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God what's happening I'm losing it Crater Lake is getting to you in one instance a group of friends saw the
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Crater Lake dragons swim under their rowboat and they were so terrified that they hauled ass back to land and were
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like flagging Rangers down being like we just saw a straight up creature in the lake we just saw a dragon like we just
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saw like what is that and they're like there's fish in the lake I don't know imagine if there's a straight up dragon
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in that I am fully of the mindset that there is at this point yeah fully of the mindset basically nobody believed them
00:56:20
they were like yeah are are you like high like are you good they're like no I'm high on Dragon sighting is what I'm
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high on saw what we saw and yeah now we are high on dragon sightings but they're
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not the only group of people to have seen this of course they're not cuz it's real a woman who was visiting the area
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from Georgia also wanted to do a little robot day of her own yeah you couldn't [ __ ] pay me money but go right ahead
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you could pay me money and I would do it I would do it probably without if you paying money I'll watch from the shore
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yeah watch from Island yeah but she said that she saw the giant sea creature swimming away from her boat like she saw
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it herself too what the [ __ ] and everybody describes it like a dragon likee creature that's the coolest [ __ ]
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I've ever heard I'm obsessed with it you can also buy postcards of it if you want
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to because now they lean in hell yeah if you got a Nessie you better go full Nessie yeah don't don't you dare try to
00:57:09
dispel the Nessie exactly now I have a few honorable mentions there wasn't like a ton of information on these things but
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they happened worth mentioning yeah worth mentioning um many Bigfoot sightings oh we love that Rangers will
00:57:22
smell something real bad investigate it and then just get a barrage of pine cones thrown at them that's the funniest
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[ __ ] I've ever heard I'm obsessed with it I love that big I almost said big face I love that I love that Bigfoot is
00:57:35
just like get the [ __ ] out of here was a bunch of don't look at me get out of here there was also a 1997 UFO sighting
00:57:43
oh hell yeah there was three lights flashed across the sky and then there was like a ton of weird flashes of
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lights and then those three lights seemed to just disappear into the water oh yeah yeah all
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UFOs underwater man I mean it's happening a lot lately that thing's 2,000 feet deep in some spots so many
00:58:04
places to go definitely UFOs down there oh the Places they'll go oh the Places they'll go yeah and finally my favorite
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part of Crater Lake is the old man of the lake it's my favorite part too and I don't I don't know anything about it
00:58:18
he's not a man he's actually a giant 30 foot Mountain Hemlock that just floats around the lake upright
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which like obviously doesn't make sense from a from a gravity standpoint from from a reality stand from any from this
00:58:35
life standpoint he just floats upright in the lake with about three feet it used to be four but you know weather and
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global warming and all that now just three feet of him stick out of the Lake's surface oh there he is isn't he
00:58:48
so cute there he is he just floats around but what the [ __ ] but there's more to him than that apparently he
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controls the weather yeah are you ready course he does he does because in 1988 there was a
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group of researchers who were going to survey the bottom of a lake of of the lake with like a submersible which [ __ ]
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that yeah no you couldn't ever have me do that but they were worried that the submersible might run into the old man
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like in you know break or something yeah so they took him over to wizard island of course yeah of course and they tied
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him to the shore and in no time the weather took 180° turn they were not even able to launch their submersible
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because storm clouds rolled in and it got so bad that it started snowing like the weather was going insane because you
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can't hold him down you can't hold him down don't you dare tether the old man of the goddamn Lake not my man's I too
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would make the weather go [ __ ] Lawless if you would T me to the side of it Lawless that's the old man is Lawless
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the old man of the lake is Lawless he really is he follows no no no rules and he doesn't have to well listen I'm not
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asking him to I'm not either the second they untied him the weather went right back to beautiful yeah that's all he
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wanted like almost instantly that's all he asked for he wants to be free yeah can't hold him down now there's a lot of
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theories as to how old man just like floats upright because again it makes no sense personally I think it's because
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he's the most magical thing that we've ever come across in life some people think his density has increased over
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time because it's the he's been in the water for so long no but I don't think so yeah he's he's a Maverick he's he is
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a Maverick but he's magic as well he is he's a magic Maverick he's a Maverick and that is the tip of the iceberg about
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Crater Lake holy [ __ ] I might do a part two on Lake got to come because there's
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some other disappearances that have taken place there we got a I'm sure I could probably find some more plane
01:00:51
crashes that have G oh yeah we got to touch upon Crater Lake again yeah and I'm very interested to hear more about
01:00:58
that double murder yes because that was shocking yeah me and Dave are going to start working on that one real soon me
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and dve so keep a lookout for that and we hope you enjoyed my rant in the beginning about how being bullied I feel
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a little safer in the office now yeah you know now that we've talked about Crater Lake we got it out yeah the old
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man is there the old man is on my side he's on everyone's side I'll I'll use the old man to cuz we'll never hold him
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down we'll never hold him down I just want to I want to be one with him I just want to like hold on to him and Float
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around Bob around the lake actually I don't because it's too deep [ __ ] that and but I do want to see the dragon I
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want to see the dragon yeah and I want to see grace yeah I want to help her I know I just want to send Grace home I
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know we have so many places we have to go all all the places we'll go yeah yeah full circle well we hope you keep
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listening and we hope you keep it weird but not so weird that you don't check out these leges manom do it yay water
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