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hey weirdos I'm Ash and I'm Elena and this right here in front of your face in your ear holes is
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morbid [Music] oh foreign [Music] hey everybody it's morbid in the afternoon hey guys yeah we had a we had
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a morning dealing with like some some Dicky people dealing with some [ __ ] [ __ ]
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per year dealing with some [ __ ] [ __ ] not not any of you don't worry about it
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works not um it was never that oh sorry I did just rip my sweatshirt in my anger
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in my anger but yeah we were just dealing with some [ __ ] [ __ ] so it's gonna be morbid in the afternoon today
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because we meant to do this earlier but then we got pissed off and we were like I don't want to do an episode pissed off
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because my friends don't want to hear me when I'm pissed off they want to hear me
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when I'm happy and guess what we're happy because we're happy Elena found a new song on Tick Tock by the raddest
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girly that's ever graced this place yes her style is unmatched it's unmatched her voice is a heathen I felt like in
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the best way yeah she is chinchilla music and I think it's chinchilla underscore music you you might if you
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are awesome you might have already seen this sound come across your for you page
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on Tick Tock and you are awesome so you probably have so I feel like you've heard it but if you haven't go search it
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out I'm not kidding you this song I think the full song doesn't come out until like April 21st I think it is yeah
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but she has been like promoting it with this snippet of it oh my God it will every time she posts it people are like
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why why am I feral right right now like it makes you just want to go like [ __ ]
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[ __ ] like catch us on April 21st like roaming around town just beaming out the
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[ __ ] sunroof do you know that about me so good that I love to like sing out the sunroof it's my favorite
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thing ever but Drew gets so mad at me usually it's because I after it's like after a couple of drinks when we're on
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our way home from somewhere and he's like get your head in the sunroof you idiot it's like that or say that to me
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but like you know but I want to sing this song out the sun room hell yeah I wanna we are gonna blast that song in
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this studio every day we're gonna like we're gonna [ __ ] [ __ ] up you are covered
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in rainbows right now in fact may I take your photo of course you can may I take
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your hat sir you want to get that SpongeBob um hold on I have to smile for a photo
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excuse me if you could please hold you look so magical so we got oh my God some or I should say
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oh my God I am I'm so ranked check you out oh and Billy's in the photo Billy Loomis of course um I'll post it so
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Mikey got these new like window clings for our skylights because our skylights are always just like a menace they're
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always bathing us in a very harsh light and we're always like ow ow so much he was like let me fix that and he got
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these clings that make rainbows all over the room when the Sun hits it and it is
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so wondrous and magical and Whimsical and it makes me so happy it's iconic and now when they're even when the light is
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coming in harshly it doesn't feel harsh because it's like well it's a rainbow because it's a rainbow so I mean some
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people would be mad at that but not me but not that not the kind of people we want to hang out with no doesn't matter
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I'm about to go buy all the Bud Lights with the rainbows I [ __ ] love Dylan Mulvaney I don't even like beer and I
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would literally go buy all of them exactly the end so there's that rainbows chinchilla chin
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those are our our recommendations for the day are rainbows and chinchilla music and Bud Light and Bud Light and
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Bud regular too I was gonna say it doesn't have to be light I don't think it's it's like the blue cans though are
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those the light ones I don't know nor do I whatever they supported them by the rainbow ones just buy the rainbow ones
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why the [ __ ] not what are you gonna talk about today Bish so we've hit some gnarly ones some gnarly cases lately and
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we've also um got some lined up that are gonna blow your socks off so our anniversary is
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coming up our five year anniversary and we've got quite we got something planned we have a
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couple things and it's something a lot of people have asked for for five full years and mama has been holding on to it
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waiting for the right time and it's a great time but we've got so even before that we have some really gnarly intense
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yeah pretty Bleak cases but ones that for sure need to be told of course but we figured we
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would kind of do a quick little little mind reset here yeah this is still pretty gnarly but like in a different
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way yeah uh we wanted to do an episode about random curses yay so do you ever just wake up and say I want to hear
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about random curses you know who doesn't and you know the first one I will do has
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murder in it it has ghost stories in it it has a curse in it has apples in it it's called multifaceted looking yeah
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but it's got a true it's got several True Crime elements to it actually and then the second one I'm gonna do because
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this is just going to be two random you know stories that have to do with curses
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is the curse of the movie The Omen which you might have heard that there's a curse with the omen but when you really
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dig into it that [ __ ] is wild good gnarly yeah super canarly so the first one we're gonna do is the curse of Micah
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Rood Micah or Mike but it's Micah Micah but yeah but it got turned into Mike later
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down the road oh because that's what we do you know that's weird we just make everything shorter I like the name Micah
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I do too so Micah Rood also referred to as Mike sometimes in several literatures
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everybody has a nickname you know he was a farmer in what is now Franklin Connecticut in the 1720s it's my cat's
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name so New England head place you know what I'm saying while he was alive this place his farm
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was known as Nine Mile Square or Norwich West Farms Micah was the youngest of at
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least nine children too many so he came from a little bit of chaos um he himself was known for at least a
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time to be a very nice man but he developed some issues later that maybe explained when you take a look at his
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family oh okay so Micah's father his name was Thomas Rood I'd like to give a quick little trigger warning we
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are going to mention incest oh horrible he Thomas rude so Micah's father was charged and convicted for incest oh he
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allegedly impregnated his own daughter Sarah and she told the town officials herself
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they'd become a little sus when they saw that Sarah being unwed in the 1720s had
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a new baby and so she was asked about it and she confessed and admitted that the
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baby was biologically her father's child and I guess technically his grandchild as well oh my God that poor poor girl
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and this wasn't even in the 1700s this was 1600s late 1600s when this happened um in 1672 they arrested Thomas Rood and
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actually hanged him good and hanged him for the crime of incest and interestingly he is the only person in
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America to ever be executed for the crime of incest not the title you want to go down with like damn wow yeah it
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was wild and according to Stephen gencarella who wrote spooky trails in tall tales Connecticut a way like that
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he said quote it was the only official execution for incest and what would become the United States Sarah was spare
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death but publicly whipped and so they agreed that she had been raped like she did not participate in
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incest as most people do not but this is what the original texts say about her sentencing because I was like excuse me
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yeah what it says the sentence of the court is that she be severely whipped on the naked body once at Hartford and once
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at Norwich That Others May hear and fear and do no more such abominable wickedness
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so they said don't get raped don't get raped why a family member wow especially yeah and got whipped on the naked body
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publicly twice for being raped that's like a whole other section that she suffered the trauma sandwich there I
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can't even handle like that is I my brain won't even compute it like publicly in front of people oh my God so
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it's like now that you've been raped and are having to deal with that let's strip
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you naked in front of people and whip you ah yeah so um Micah how did he he got far away from that
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situation he didn't want anything to do with that led you know that Legacy and so he decided to start over as a farmer
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in Franklin alone he was like I'm gonna bye bye so he set up his farm in 1699 and he was respected he was moderately
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good at farming Stellar I wouldn't say he was gonna win any blue ribbons no you know but like
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like he wasn't as good as I am at keeping a house plant alive it's been a couple weeks which I will
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say I have done for a couple of weeks and so I feel I feel as though I can speak on this subject as a farmer myself
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I planted this weekend and within 48 Hours killed two hydrangea plants you know I usually I'm I'm one to to
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slaughter house plants but like but I'm doing really good and mostly because John said he doesn't think I can keep
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one alive so I'm like now I'm a challenge accepted and prove it to that [ __ ] and I'm doing good her name
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is Lisa Vanderpump and she's thriving I also have one named Rupert Giles he's also thriving so fingers crossed
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everybody what's the other one I don't the other one I haven't named yet because uh he came to me a little worse
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for where so I'm gonna he though okay we're gonna it feels like a he Billy Loomis
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he works for where he came to us a little worse for wearing you know yeah uh but back to Micah he was moderately
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good like I said he was all right me too and he was said to be someone who helped
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people he was social he gave people food and stuff from his farm a good dude someone you want to have to round that's
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the story you hear but then the other story oh there's two is a bunch of people who say he was weird strange and
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mean so either history has failed us here with a shitty game of telephone or he just pissed off some people and they're
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loudly telling everybody about it I was gonna say maybe yeah I feel like that might be it maybe it just depends who
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you ask like you can't please everyone no you can't I mean if you asked like about me you'd get a lot of different
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viewpoints I would say she's Grand she's Grand but like I'm sure Micah is like dealing with the same fate I mean at one
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point Micah um you know he does something that like you really can't argue with saying he's
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kind of a shitty person but like we'll get there okay so one thing that was not disputed by anyone was the fact that he
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may not have been the best all-around farmer or all-around human but he had the greatest and most beautiful
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and thriving apple orchard in the Galaxy the Galaxy the Galaxy this one yup and the next in the night we don't know
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about that no we know we know there is not more thriving apples on another guy like they did it's just not possible I'm
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not putting my money on that his apples were juicy they were beautiful they were
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[ __ ] huge they were all in a neat line all the trees and they had white blossoms and every fall they would all
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pop out and he would sell them all it would pop off they would just pop off and everybody would just like lug them
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away because they were so giant and amazing I love it and one night in December on his farm so everything's
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going great for Micah he's just selling these apples he's like I may not be great at this other farming but you
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better believe I can give you an Apple so one night in December a Salesman came through the area
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and he was like those kind of salesmen like the one in Sabrina the Teenage Witch I can always bring it back there
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uh when that salesman comes through the linen closet portal and sells Sabrina tomorrow ball against her aunt's wishes
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um that one uh he it's just like that he had everything and he was even tomorrow
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boss he had Tomorrow balls and he was a regular in that area so he had told it he had told sold a ton that week and he
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had a lot of cash on him so in those days this was risky business yeah if you just listened to our episode
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with red-handed um about the uh about La Vina Fisher you know that being a highway man or a
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highway woman was like an actual thing back then and any salesperson or Merchant that was walking around with
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tons of cash was just like a giant bullseye on their head I mean it's Ricky risky business so the risk of
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being robbed or Worse was really high but he was known there so he felt safe he had done that before he somehow that
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night ended up like in or near rood's farm and no one is really sure how but he ended up going inside the house okay
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I don't he must have been invited something happened he liked apples he wanted to get some but then he went
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missing yeah no one knew where he went he never returned home search parties went out
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and then there was a tip that came in saying they that somebody had seen him in the rude Farm area they searched the
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property the salesman was found they found him I can tell by the look in your eyes
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he was buried under an apple tree with his head shattered open and all of his money gone okay that's not quite what I
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was expecting but damn yeah um of course it's a very 1700s investigation followed so everybody was
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invited by Hannah yeah and everything was totally fine very up to standards oh man um Micah was definitely the prime
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suspect since it was his farm and he was the only one there that makes sense but
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he denied denied denied and they couldn't really gather any more physical evidence other than the body being found
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under a tree on his property so they had to let it go for the time being oh my God
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so even though this guy was found buried under an apple tree with his head smashed open yeah and all his money gone
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there was really nothing that could tie it directly to Micah the yeah so he was just kind of let go and spring
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came his trees thrived again wow but one tree came back completely different this time
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around it was the tree the body of the salesman was found under and it came back with
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bright red blossoms and remember I said he would get these bright white blossoms yeah as if that
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wasn't strange enough once Harvest Time came at the end of the summer he huge yellow apples grew and when they were
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cut open they contained a red circle in the center that looked like a stain of blood do not all of those apples all the
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apples on that one tree had this and no others in the orchard did that's strange
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like a totally different kind of apples and after this so he found this and he knew so after this he started to lose it
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he was like it is it's very much like that so everybody said his demeanor completely switched out of nowhere he
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was depressed he withdrew from everyone he never came into town and people near his farm said he would just scream late
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into the night alone and pace around and around all evening I want to start doing
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that like just to see what people just to see if people are like she just screams at night alone maybe that would
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be a cool Legacy yeah I think it would but he wouldn't eat or tend to his farm and everything just completely died he
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let everything go but that one tree everything except that red apple tree oh my God every season it came back even
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though he didn't tend to it [ __ ] there is a story in legends lore and secrets of New England by Thomas
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D'Agostino and Arlene Nicholson and it says he told a few townspeople that he was being haunted by a ghost and he said
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that it attacked him any time he tried to work on his farm oh so people think it was the Ghost of the salesman back
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for revenge and it also says there's a story of one season a young boy stealing apples from that red tree and when Micah
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caught him he told him to take the entire tree of apples because he was so frightened of it and he wanted them gone
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he was like just take them all wow and the boy was like no no I was just like I'm sorry I stole one he was like no I
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want you to take all of them I don't want them that's not terrified that boy just ran away
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yeah it's insane so he continued to deteriorate and at the end of his life the townspeople believed he had either
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been falsely accused of murdering the salesman which that is a possibility yeah and that the body had been placed
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under the tree by someone you know the killer to frame him or that he had done it and lived a life of guilt being
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haunted what do you think I don't know because it sounds like Micah like wasn't a bad guy you know so it is a little
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strange that he would suddenly lash out right you know but I don't know that tree was definitely the symbol of
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whatever had happened here and they the people of the town did come together when he became too frail to take care of
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himself in his old age and they paid two shillings to volunteers to watch over him for two days at a time
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so to me it feels like the community kind of believed he didn't yeah and that he was falsely accused I don't think
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they would be going through this trouble if they thought he just killed a Salesman In Cold Blood yeah they're not
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going to write him under an apple tree anywhere near him yeah so there's I mean to me I'm like that's some good
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Community right there yeah especially since there is a possibility he was a brutal murderer totally like but I I
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would love to believe he isn't so yeah I kind of believe he's not and he ended up
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dying in December of 1728 looking over that red apple tree you sitting in his chair looking out over it that's so sad
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what's crazier is that tree stood and thrived until 1938 what and it was blown over by a
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hurricane that's how it was finally gone but before it was still up 1930s and people were still eating the apples yes
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and people took pieces of the branches and tried to replicate the apples but they never could and there are some
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legends that say there are traces of red in some of these strains though and especially in the Franklin Connecticut
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area that's so interesting and they would call them like Mike's apples or Micah's apples I want to go apple
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picking next year in this area and find one of those apples until I find we got those apples and there is a movie on
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Prime right now I don't know if you can still get it on Prime but I saw that it was on there called The Curse of Michael
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rude it's from 2014 and it's about this whole story oh [ __ ] yeah so there is a
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curse in the apples if you find the Apple I don't know exactly what happens to you that you can't say I think it was
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more Micah's curse than anybody else's but I don't know I want to believe I both want to believe that he was
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falsely accused and I don't want to because I feel bad agreed you know like it's like that would suck if his whole
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life was him being like not a murderer also treated like one I feel like the thing would be did he come into like a
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lot of new things after that salesman was killed like did he spend the money that's the thing is that the reason
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right or did he just kill this guy but all his money was gone I know like that seems to be the motive yeah I don't know
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it's very strange it is it makes a lot more sense to me to be honest that like some Highwayman
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or Highwaymen found this guy on his way robbed him killed him and then buried him under the tree thinking no one would
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find him yeah that makes more sense to me too than Micah just like randomly snapping and killing this one man who
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was well known in town that's the other thing and it's like if I know Micah right I don't think he did that that's
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exactly how I feel like despite him coming from a father that was like whoa yeah he's executed as the first person
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for getting executed for incest yeah charges some people's parents are [ __ ] terrible and they're well that's
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the thing you know it's like you know and they're great you know what I mean so I mean I don't know that's the curse
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of Michael rude in the apples I thought it was an interesting one it's a nice New England d one which is always fun uh
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but the next one I'm going to talk about because um I want to watch this movie essentially uh is the omen you know I've
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never seen it usually it's a great movie it's a it's a really really great horror
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film what year did it come out um in 1976. okay never mind so I think there was like a remake okay yeah it was
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remakes yeah one of the remakes came out when I was little and I remember being [ __ ] terrified of the preview and
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like crying about it I saw that remake I think with my ex-boyfriend in the theater terrible yeah was it good it was
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good but at the original movie though it can beat the uh yeah the movie so yeah um religious like scary movies to me are
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like the scariest and you always say that too yeah I feel like that whenever you bring religion into a horror movie
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it just brings an element of like uncomfortability yeah to it no matter what an uncomfortability in like the
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best way for me like I love it because it scares me on a whole different level that's it's so funny because I agree
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with the latter part of that it scares me on a whole different level but to a level that I don't want to be scared on
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oh yeah yeah you see you don't like it I love it and it's weird because I'm not like I mean we all know like neither of
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us are very religious no at all I was gonna say very but it still scares me yeah it scares me because like it
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usually when they use it in a horror movie it's used in a really [ __ ] up way it's just the idea everything that
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they'll do like um like that the scene in Hellraiser when he's in the church I love that scene and he like does the
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like the fake Stigmata kind of thing yeah one of the I love that scene but because it is so uncomfortable it's like
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such a wildly I don't know what it is about it I don't know I think maybe it's because I feel the same as like like
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paranormal movies like it's just like it's unknown to me it is and I don't want to [ __ ] with it and it's very like
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there's a lot to it that's a thing yeah because like I don't care what you practice religious wise like I don't
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give a [ __ ] as long as you're not hurting anybody that's how I feel like so that this
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isn't to be like you know a knock on religion not at all I literally don't give a [ __ ] but it's if because I'm not
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religious I think it does make me uncomfortable and like a scary way yeah I watch it I don't know what it is I
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just it's it freaks me the [ __ ] out also did anyone see ghost release in the EP
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of course I did because I essentially live with you and it was so good the whole the whole
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like story that you were telling me like behind the video that they released yeah
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it was like cool yeah they did go watch the video because it's it's wild ghost family but um it's like yeah ghost fans
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go watch the video like everyone else don't um but I'm just kidding but they did a
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cover of Genesis like Phil Collins of Genesis um Jesus he knows me it's a great cover and I think they have like a
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whole EP of covers coming out in May I want to say covers covers um but it goes with the video and they
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released it on Easter and it was just like a really good cover and the videos like really wild I love that so it was a
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nice little Easter treat and it kind of goes along with all this like religious talk so there we are
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let's talk about it because it definitely has some like you know Satan and all that in the Antichrist things in
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it uh it was like I said came out in 1976. it's directed by Richard Donner and it was written by David seltzer
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The Omen is pretty [ __ ] and is a classically terrifying and disturbing horror flick it's one of those
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masterpieces of horror just the way it is done in my opinion I'll say um but it starts out with a guy named
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Robert Thorne who's played by Gregory Peck and his wife Catherine Thorne played by Lee Remick
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um they're in Rome and about to give birth to a little boy when things go horribly wrong and the baby is actually
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born deceased oh so obviously Robert is distraught and he has to be the one to tell his wife this she doesn't know but
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before he can do that the hospital chaplain comes in and it's like hey a baby has just been born a few doors
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down and the mother died during childbirth he's like um I'll take it you should just take
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this baby and just tell your wife it's yours easy peasy like nothing can go wrong
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with this I think that's why this all went wrong that's funny that's called kidnapping and it's a crime and I love
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it because Robert's like that sounds great what luck like he's just like all right let's go men and he does and they
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name this boy Damien and Jesus uh they don't name him Jesus I mean like can I say and also Jesus I'm saying like whoa
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Jesus and I say Jesus with like a GES g-u-s just in case you're wondering um but as this Damien kid grows up [ __ ]
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goes awry yeah lots of bad stuff happens to this family people die horrifically uh their Nanny literally hangs herself
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during his fifth birthday oh my God yeah Damien we find out is the actual Antichrist oops for some reason the term
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Antichrist to me is hilarious well I think of it um in Donnie Darko when he's like um I think you're the [ __ ]
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Antichrist insane so I have two thoughts we're going down a path here I think Donnie Darko would be that whole scene
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which makes me LOL yeah and then I also think of the anti-feries from Fairly OddParents which you won't understand
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but other people will yeah and then like now that you think of that you're like oh wow like they were definitely
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inspired by the Antichrist and that's hilarious and it's just like a wild term the Antichrist the Antichrist like
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okay and it's like that Damien is just is the Antichrist it's like okay yeah what does that mean but like I don't
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understand or Patrick Swayze yeah and apparently they tell they tell you what it means because like they're like oh no
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Damien is the Antichrist like whoopsie I don't know what to tell you and I'm putting a priest close to the family
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father Brennan is like yeah he's the son of Satan so that bold move you took in the hospital there like did not that
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wasn't a good move that that woman [ __ ] the devil well that's thank you because that's the
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thing um that would that would make the most sense that uh you know what I I'm not
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gonna give spoilers right now I'm not gonna give spoilers right now but watch the movie you'll get the answer and it's
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wild you want to watch it together yeah I think we should watch it because who boy oh no that's all I'm gonna say uh
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but yeah so you know he's the Antichrist Son Of Satan okay oopsie poopsie um but then Catherine becomes pregnant
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again yeah and the priest UPS the bad [ __ ] level when this happens and says oh
00:28:09
yeah since Damien is the son of Satan he's gonna be hell-bent pun intended on murdering that unborn fetus and both of
00:28:17
you so you gotta kill him but I'll like 100 look the other way like this priest is like don't [ __ ] worry I feel like
00:28:25
can you kill him for me and father Brandon's like no I cannot but I will absolutely not report you to authorities
00:28:30
oh my God so [ __ ] goes down again I won't spoil it in case you haven't seen it it was from 1976 so you have had the
00:28:39
time plenty of time I would be very justified in spoiling but I love you all so much that I won't do it to you okay
00:28:46
watch it it's nuts so many more twisties but we just we're not here just to talk
00:28:51
about the movie plot where to talk about curses so let's go so obviously it involves a
00:28:59
lot of really dark [ __ ] this movie plot all of that you know very like um historically dark [ __ ] yeah Satan demons
00:29:09
murder Antichrist dark religious topics and all the like so right away everyone making this film was like a little weary
00:29:16
that they may be messing with some forces that like could potentially be dangerous so that's the thing like yeah
00:29:23
I I would feel that way a bit I wouldn't no I know you wouldn't yeah yeah I wouldn't feel that way
00:29:32
you but I know you would yeah but it's weird because I don't believe wholeheartedly in any of them yeah but
00:29:39
like a little piece of me would be like I'm not my whole goal in life is to not [ __ ] around to find out you know I think
00:29:45
that's a very smart way of going about life I'd like to quite honestly find out certain things but I'm not gonna [ __ ]
00:29:50
around to find them out honestly I'm smart thanks very smart I I'm fully on board with that way of thinking too many
00:29:57
inexplicable things can happen in the world and I'm not trying to figure it out like that I mean it's there's a lot
00:30:05
going on there is but it a lot did go on really during this so an advertising exec and an Evangelical Christian named
00:30:14
Robert Munger was the one who helped birth the idea of this child Antichrist he had said to producer Harvey Bernhard
00:30:22
that he believed the Antichrist was walking around in the form of a child because that would be the thing no one
00:30:28
would expect he really believed not to be true I beg to differ this as do all parents
00:30:36
I'm sure because like No One's Gonna expect a child to be the Antichrist I think everyone's okay
00:30:44
who are you yeah who are you yeah so I get it but whatever so this idea you know this idea is obviously
00:30:53
pretty [ __ ] terrifying like at its core and it's also pretty brilliant as like in a horror sense to have a child
00:31:00
walking around as the Antichrist so they started working with it they're like what an idea
00:31:05
some religious ideas in the film were created and not taken directly from the Bible like the idea that the Antichrist
00:31:12
is the son of Satan himself I don't know what he actually is but that wasn't I guess that's not what the Bible says
00:31:19
Okay um David Seltzer created that idea for the movie but it really does work really well that's the son of Satan
00:31:25
that's way scarier to people you hear the son of Satan it's like you're that works like you know what you're you're
00:31:33
coming with here so so yeah they made up a lot of that stuff but people think that it's that it's these kind of
00:31:39
changes that angered something dark like the real Antichrist was like that's not
00:31:45
my authorized bio like why are you doing that maybe heinous lies but then I here's my thinking I'm like well why
00:31:54
would the Antichrist give a [ __ ] first of all that you're not going by the Bible
00:32:00
what are the dark forces that are mad that you're not going by the Bible like that gets a little that gets a
00:32:07
little hairy let's get a little hairy scary no comments yeah I'm like that's I don't know I feel like another side
00:32:13
would be angrier that you're not going by the Bible but again I don't know I don't know if there's pieces of the
00:32:18
Bible that would turn that on its head you know I don't know much about the Bible no no but before he even got the
00:32:29
film started or green lit he pitched it by telling producer Harvey Bernhard that
00:32:34
he believed the devil didn't want them to make the film which seems like a pretty bold pitch to me wait wait the
00:32:41
the guy who like made this whole idea said the devil doesn't want to do this yeah like he was like I'm pretty sure
00:32:46
the devil doesn't want us to make this film the devil doesn't want screen time which I don't and I'm not saying it's a
00:32:52
bad pitch because I don't believe that's a bad pitch I think it's a bold pitch that's one of those like risky I gotta
00:32:58
hit the right person with this pitch because you're being like hey I'm pretty sure the Devil Himself does not want us
00:33:04
to make this film it's like you're gonna get some person that's like oh then we shouldn't and you're gonna get somebody
00:33:09
else who's gonna go Dan and and in there and they're gonna be like let's make this film and you're all gonna do like
00:33:14
devil horns together and rock out so I think I would be the former and you would be the latter I would just pull
00:33:21
out an electric guitar literally like she's like hovering above the land but yeah he got someone to be that did
00:33:28
the daring in here one more time they do that on um last podcast on the left like whatever yeah whatever they'll
00:33:36
say something like super Metal they're always like shout out uh shout out to last podcast on the left um one of the
00:33:42
first podcasts I ever listened to yeah remember when we went to their live show yeah that was fun I got vertigo you guys
00:33:47
are funny but it was great uh but later in interviews they both repeat this idea
00:33:52
like they they tell this story and that this was a true story that he pitched it
00:33:56
that way that they were like yes and Monger is quoted as saying I said if you make this movie you're gonna have some
00:34:02
problems if the devil's greatest single weapon is to be invisible and you're gonna do something which is going to
00:34:08
take away his invisibility to millions of people he's not going to want that to happen
00:34:13
so the devil is invisible I guess okay that's what I took away from so Bernhard recalled the devil was at work and he
00:34:20
didn't want that film made so here's where I sit again I'm going to keep telling you where I sit from here
00:34:26
please do imagine the devil like if that is an actual thing which like I don't I
00:34:32
don't know uh but imagine him what the icon iconic that we think he is like that whatever we see him as with like
00:34:39
the horses and all that imagine him being so mad about a Hollywood horror movie see so here's where I'm at I
00:34:48
picture the devil like the one in um Sabrina but like the new Sabrina did you get to that season where like sure did
00:34:56
he's like yep he's with me right now because Mikey just fanned himself that man made me question so many things
00:35:03
about my identity anyways yeah I pictured that devil and I forgot where I was going because I was just thinking
00:35:11
about him too much sorry are we just picturing that double right now is that all we're doing here's where I was going
00:35:16
with that I picture that handsome man that handsome devil and I would think that that devil would want to want the
00:35:24
pr thank you that's kind of what I don't see him being pissed no like that's just
00:35:31
me because people are also going to be [ __ ] terrified and isn't that the devil's whole thing is like terrifying
00:35:37
people that's the thing I'm like I feel like that's kind of like a schtick and oh my God I'm looking at the Devil now
00:35:42
now Sabrina the Teenage Witch one I had to refresh Mama Marie I'm looking at the
00:35:48
doctor look at the Devil right now uh yeah if it's that one he would definitely be down for it but I don't
00:35:56
yeah I don't down for what I don't know what you say no I don't I don't know but
00:36:02
then when I think about it I'm like that's my interpretation so there's a vast number of and Mikey's bringing up
00:36:11
pictures of the devil of that devil the one from Sabrina and I'm just um it's getting so much to look elsewhere uh
00:36:18
that's good because I can't but there's they call him daddy Satan uh but yeah you know watch that show by
00:36:28
the way that's a great show also now all I can do that show I know what the [ __ ]
00:36:32
all I can hear in my head right now is that Jack Black song where it's like oh my God the tenacious D's songs
00:36:40
um does that stand for devil tenacious devil I have no idea um but either way I was gonna say sorry there's several
00:36:47
different ways to interpret the devil whether he exists how he exists who he is what his beliefs are what his
00:36:55
motivation is what his personality is this is just mine you probably you probably do have a different
00:37:01
interpretation because we're all different here that's okay and maybe your devil that you're thinking of I
00:37:07
mean and it doesn't have to be your devil just the devil you think about doesn't want baby he doesn't want the pr
00:37:12
maybe he does want to be invisible so I think my idea visit that he wouldn't give a [ __ ] about a horror a Hollywood
00:37:20
horror film I feel like that's uh that's small potatoes to a Damon to the devil TM but maybe your demon does so I'm I'm
00:37:29
not here to stomp on your idea here but that's just how I feel we digress so filming is about to begin
00:37:36
in London and the cast is heading on to set and [ __ ] already is going really awry and this is the part where when you
00:37:45
enter into this you're like okay yeah curse like the devil what are you talking about shut up but then when you
00:37:50
hear the [ __ ] that happened you're like what was going on there because it's a
00:37:55
lot so I've heard like some of the things that I know are definitely not man-made accidents do you think any of
00:38:00
these accidents were man-made to like add to the hype honestly I no I don't know if I can come
00:38:07
up with one that is man-made a lot of these are too big and too out of everyone's hands okay for them to happen
00:38:14
and you'll see why so Gregory Peck was on his way into London to begin filming and the plane he was on was struck by
00:38:21
lightning so that's not man-made no and now I looked into it and according to Scientific American each airplane in the
00:38:29
U.S commercial air fleet is struck by lightning at least once a year remember when it happened to Miley Cyrus it did
00:38:35
now usually these strikes are light and not really noticed that much don't do a bunch of damage they used to but they
00:38:43
they definitely don't anymore um it happens once a year to each plane on average but December 8th 1963 a
00:38:50
commercial airliner crashed as a direct result of being struck by lightning oh that's terrifying that was in 63
00:38:56
remember before they put in a bunch of different [ __ ] which I will talk about that has made that so it won't happen
00:39:02
again usually but it was panned American World Airways flight 214 and it was a Boeing 7 707 the flight was going from
00:39:10
San Juan Puerto Rico to Baltimore Maryland and then it was taking off from Maryland and going to Philadelphia so
00:39:16
the plane took off from Puerto Rico got to Baltimore then as it was going from Baltimore to Philadelphia the plane
00:39:23
exploded and went down with 73 passengers and eight crew members on board oh my God and the last words they
00:39:30
heard over the black box was mayday mayday mayday Clipper 214 out of control here we go oh isn't that like the most
00:39:37
chilling here we go why the [ __ ] would you say that now everyone on board perished this was directly due to
00:39:45
lightning strikes and it it ignited the fuel tank and that's why it exploded after this though so don't worry after
00:39:53
this planes were ordered to install lightning discharge Wicks or static dischargers on all planes in the U.S
00:40:00
this basically what these are are they're on the wings and they allow the excess electrons of built up static
00:40:07
energy to have a pathway back into the atmosphere so they don't build up and say ignite a plane's fuel tank like they
00:40:16
get shot out into the atmosphere so it's on it's like a way to like ground it and
00:40:21
send it somewhere else kind of thing and it they work like they've tested them out they work that's how it works thank
00:40:27
you for that yeah so just wanted to like detour on that because whoa scary so shortly after this within days writer
00:40:35
writer David Seltzer's plane also was hit by lightning he said it was the roughest five minutes
00:40:41
I've ever had on an airliner I am self-flagellating my fear of flying but this you usually are this is all in
00:40:50
the name of content for you because I love you so if you've ever doubted it right after this producer mace Newfield
00:40:59
New filed I think it is a new field also in the plane headed to production and his plane was struck by lightning come
00:41:08
on that's insane three planes were struck by lightning and you said it only happens it happens once on average a
00:41:14
year no so Harvey Bernhard was almost struck by lightning while standing on the ground while filming on location in
00:41:22
Rome once production began too much lightning yeah and it was literally right next to him see that's why these
00:41:29
are a little weird like how how do you not think like something had to have been at work here something yeah right
00:41:36
like don't you believe that that's like smiting but like I smite you with these like you
00:41:41
believe that something was at work right something weird is happening here I don't know what
00:41:46
I can't put my my little my little finger on it but no but you know something is wrong here I believe a lot
00:41:54
in energy there you go so it's bad energy it is what it is you're talking about like a whole ass kid being born
00:42:00
there's a whole last kiss like gonna kill them all I'm gonna kill them I'm gonna kill my mom I'm gonna kill my dad
00:42:07
that's him another Juice Box bun yeah and you know it it did have some bad energy going
00:42:17
into production because they were immediately setting this up as like the devil doesn't want this so they're
00:42:21
setting the bad energy from the start yeah not manifesting properly now Harvey Bernhard was so stressed that he began
00:42:29
wearing a crucifix on set I might also do the same I would not but he said he's like upside down maybe but he said quote
00:42:38
I wasn't about to take any chances which I get the devil was at work and he didn't want that film made we were
00:42:44
dealing in areas we didn't know about and later on in the picture it got worse worse and worse oh my God so like I get
00:42:51
it you know like you're not going to take any chances you might as well throw a crucifix around your neck it's crazy
00:42:56
that this movie like there was a private plane that was rented for production because they were
00:43:03
using it for like overhead scenes sure and during production like during filming somebody else rented this plane
00:43:09
like they charted it while they weren't using it upon takeoff the engine was hit
00:43:14
by a flock of birds caused the engines to fail and the plane crashed onto the end of the runway skidded into the road
00:43:22
and hit a car oh my God everyone on board and in the car was killed yeah this is true this much is true but in
00:43:32
some sources and I don't I don't know if this is true I can't verify this it's just in some sources sure they say the
00:43:37
car was carrying the Pilot's Wife and two children I really I think that is that's way too
00:43:44
Over the Top If they do cite it in some sources but I found I want to be clear I
00:43:48
found nothing to verify this okay yeah sometimes but you will read that in some sources that's why I want to let you
00:43:53
know like I couldn't find something to verify it if you can then that's even worse but and if you can't I'm like you
00:43:59
know like it's already bad enough that everybody on board died and everyone in the car died you don't need to make it
00:44:04
worse thank you because I'm literally like you don't need to make that like I already carrier and more traumatizing
00:44:10
like people die yeah like I I'm already upset yeah I'm upset that so that happened holy [ __ ] apparently I think it
00:44:18
was a peck who was supposed to be renting one of the planes too and it might have been that actual plane and he
00:44:25
ended up not renting it that day or using it that day to do something and it crashed wow and he was supposed to be on
00:44:30
it there was also an animal trainer who was on set because there's a scene with Rottweilers where Peck's character is
00:44:37
chased and attacked in a cemetery by really angry vicious dogs hell hounds if you will but the dogs the Rottweilers
00:44:44
attacked the stuntman for real and they wouldn't stop oh my God and they bit through the paddings and ignored the
00:44:51
handlers and the animal trainer and I guess the stuntman ended up being okay but he suffered actual injuries from it
00:44:57
wow and it was very unlike these dogs to not listen to the handlers and the trainer yeah were they okay they were
00:45:04
okay okay good um so Richard Donner was leaving Harvey bernhard's office where something else
00:45:10
happens to the animal trainer by the way uh we'll get to it but he was leaving bernhard's office after a meeting and he
00:45:16
was hit by a car oh my God it was okay but like what the [ __ ] he was actually he was hit by a car how do you know how
00:45:23
long this production was like how long it took no I don't know exactly how long it took but it happened quick I'm gonna
00:45:28
try to find out because I'm like all of these things are happening like was this
00:45:31
a couple months exactly an executive producer mace there was staying at the London Hilton with his wife while
00:45:37
filming and it was bombed by the IRA what and on November 12th they were all there executive producers directors
00:45:46
actors all of them were having some kind of dinner at some restaurant and that restaurant was bombed by the IRA minutes
00:45:53
before they arrived oh my God this is um over an 11-week period I was gonna say it was quick 11 weeks all crammed into
00:46:03
this period oh my God and now there's a scene speaking of the animal trainer there's a scene in the movie where they
00:46:08
go to a zoo and Damien's presence just his presence there makes all the animals like go crazy they're all screaming
00:46:16
every they're flipping that stresses me out it's a really haunting and very scary scene yeah it's really good and
00:46:22
they come across a group of baboons and the baboons freak the [ __ ] out when they
00:46:27
see Damien and he's just smiling at them it's so scary and so the baboons attacked the car they're in that they're
00:46:34
driving through yeah and according to Richard Donner Lee Remick who played the mom was legitimately terrified while
00:46:42
filming this sequence so her screams and the fears we see are very real and they're what's in the final shot of the
00:46:48
film so they use that animal trainer for these shots as well and everything was fine but the next day that animal
00:46:55
trainer was killed by tigers what the [ __ ] Bernhard later said he was killed the day after we shot there he
00:47:03
was killed by a tiger he grabbed him by the head and killed him instantly oh my God like what the [ __ ]
00:47:10
and what's even worse is it didn't end after filming so special effects supervisor John
00:47:17
Richardson was responsible for a really Infamous scene it's a decapitation scene
00:47:21
in the movie um it the man this man is like really brutally beheaded by a sheet of glass
00:47:27
sliding off the back of a truck it's very final destination-esque yeah um it's really brutal well John
00:47:33
Richardson was in Holland with his girlfriend Liz Moore on August 13 1976. they were filming Richard attenborough's
00:47:41
a bridge a bridge too far in their car crashed he survived very injured but she was decapitated
00:47:49
now really quickly just because like I looked into Liz the girlfriend the victim here she was a really talented
00:47:56
and really respected painter and sculptor she designed and sculpted star child and Stanley Kubrick's 2001 Space
00:48:04
Odyssey oh wow the nude furniture and A Clockwork Orange the C3PO suit in Star Wars oh my God and worked with another
00:48:12
artist named Brian Moyer Moyer I think it is sorry to create the finalized version of the Storm Trooper helmets
00:48:19
holy [ __ ] she was only 32 years old when she was killed wow imagine she did she
00:48:24
could have gone on to do and killed by decapitation that's terrifying now allegedly according to reports he said
00:48:31
he escaped from the vehicle and he saw a signpost they were in Holland pointing to the nearest town and it was a the
00:48:38
town's name was Omen and it was o-m-m-e-n and according to him the kilometer marker where this was was 66.6
00:48:50
I don't know what to say to that another crew member a stunt person named elf joint also went from working on stunts
00:48:59
and working on like The Omen he went to the Richard Attenborough is a bridge too
00:49:02
far too so they both went over to that he had an accident almost immediately as well he was supposed to be filmed
00:49:09
jumping off a roof and he would land on some kind of like airbag obviously he fell from the roof really strangely
00:49:16
according to all Witnesses and somehow missed the airbag he ended up critical in the hospital luckily he did recover
00:49:23
but when he woke up he said he was everyone said he was absolutely adamant he said I was pushed off that roof oh I
00:49:32
just got all the [ __ ] chills and the way he fell everyone was like that was not a stunt manfall like that
00:49:38
wasn't a stunt man fault he was awkward it was like he wasn't ready for it but he was like like someone had pushed him
00:49:44
and he wasn't ready to do an actual Fall Like A Safe Fall oh no they said he was
00:49:50
like super awkward and strange how he fell and he was he he was like I was 100 pushed I felt it and he was out there
00:49:58
alone yeah [ __ ] that no one [ __ ] that and to end it all out the kid who played
00:50:04
Damon Harvey Stevens he disappeared for years after he's a terrifying looking child and the crew of the documentary
00:50:11
about this curse had to hire a private detective to search him down because they thought he was dead or missing what
00:50:17
then when they talked to him he won't speak about the curse literally will not say a word you can't get him to open up
00:50:24
about it what yeah which I'm like is that like what is that is that could that be that you are like playing into
00:50:35
it because like good on you I would play the [ __ ] into that if I could but like
00:50:39
damn I would not play into that like that's why it's so like no because look we're talking about it
00:50:46
well yeah but have people being like oh oh [ __ ] dude I that's why I say a lot of that those are not like man-made
00:50:54
things they're like not bombings of the IRA they're like planes crashing they're
00:50:58
lightning hitting planes there's people getting in like weird strange accidents like yeah sure there are coincidences
00:51:04
but not that many and that's the thing a lot of the people involved in this production were like yeah in the
00:51:10
beginning when you like hear about it you're like sure yeah okay like you can kind of explain away some things but
00:51:16
they're like as it goes you know you just stop being able to explain like who how can you have that much bad
00:51:22
luck I'm not well [ __ ] I am not well [ __ ] but I think it's an interesting I love a cursed movie Set actually
00:51:31
um shutter for a while had like a whole series first movies yeah there's a lot of them it's like Rosemary's Baby
00:51:37
there's Poltergeist there's the exercise and again a lot of them are like religion or like you know Satan based
00:51:46
kind of thing but I think it's one of those things I don't know maybe maybe I mean religion is one of the oldest
00:51:52
things in the world you know like so it's like maybe maybe with and maybe it doesn't even necessarily
00:51:59
have to do with like you know the devil and stuff like that it's like this you're messing with something ancient
00:52:05
that you don't understand an Ancient Forest but none of us understand maybe you know like maybe it's something to do
00:52:10
with that I don't know who will know I feel like I'm gonna be very creeped out the next couple days yeah I know me too
00:52:16
because I love that feeling but like I also hate it at the same time oh the end of my hallway is gonna freak me out
00:52:22
lately I've been freaked out by the end of my hallway oh yeah you might want to like
00:52:26
clear that yeah clear that out yeah it's my spare bedroom too so yeah clear that
00:52:31
out yeah definitely you don't want that being I think it's just because honestly
00:52:33
there's a lot of laundry in there then that's bad energy you're like I just don't want to fold it so that's the
00:52:40
battery no that's why I'm freaking it's dirty laundry like a couple of hampers full of laundry
00:52:45
that I need to get done so maybe that's it that would freak me out too [ __ ] hate laundry yeah that's like that's wow
00:52:51
bad vibes that's bad vibes it's bad stinky Vibes oh man good creepy we love a haunted movie which you know
00:53:00
these are and there was a lot of there's a lot of actual death involved here so it's um True Crime it's not the True
00:53:06
Crime element um we should make this a series and like if you guys know of any cursed movies if
00:53:12
that you want us to look into like cursed movies curves TV shows cursed Broadway shows curse Productions curse
00:53:20
Productions there we go because that might be kind of fun to look into totally I love a good curse every once
00:53:24
in a while we need a little uh I don't want to be cursed no but I also I like to look into a curse but they are very
00:53:30
let me speak clearly yeah give the universe the right word yeah but yeah and go listen to ghosts new You Know
00:53:39
cover single because it's great I heard it you're gonna give but yeah I hope everybody uh had a good
00:53:50
weekend and watched The Omen and we hope you keep listening and we hope you keep
00:53:55
it weird but not so weird that you're the Antichrist or maybe do keep it that weird just up to your preference yeah
00:54:01
whatever you want to do man keep you keep it that weird you're kind of weird hello don't hurt people
00:54:08
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