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Hey weirdos. I'm Ash. I'm Elena. What's up? And oh, it's it's morbid. [Music] >> It is morbid. I I say I'm Elena, but am
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I? I don't >> I don't know. >> Guess what happened today. >> So, I had to do So, I don't have a
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Facebook page and I needed a Facebook page for something. So, I was going to make like a dummy page.
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>> Yeah. >> But I haven't tried to make a Facebook page in years. I don't know what the
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[ __ ] it entails. So, I went on and I look I I put in all my [ __ ] and then Facebook is like, "Hey, you need to do a
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selfie video to prove you're a human before we can accept your account." And I was like, "That's
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>> wild meta, but okay. I did it and it immediately was like, whoa, whoa, we don't we don't think you're a
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human. Back it up. Like >> that's so that's so rich coming from like the lizard people of all lizard
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peoples. >> Mark Zuckerberg doesn't think you're human. >> He does not think I'm human. So he
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literally put a suspension on my account before it was even created because it was like step back. You're an alien.
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>> Try again. >> And then it was like, do you want to appeal? And I was like, I guess cuz I
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need this for this thing. I guess considering I'm a [ __ ] human. >> Yeah, considering I'm standing here a
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human. So, I hit appeal and they were like, "Yeah, we'll let you know within like 48 hours." Within an hour,
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>> I get a um absolutely not. And it literally says, "Let me read to you what it cuz it it's in no uncertain terms."
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>> It says, "No, [ __ ] We know about you. I will not be getting this account." >> It said, "Your Facebook account has been
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permanently disabled." >> [ __ ] you. So, and it says, "You requested a review of this decision, but
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we still found that you suck ass and you're not going to be part of this." And then they said, "You can't request
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another review." And I said, "Don't even try." >> I didn't want to be on Facebook anyways,
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you [ __ ] So, I'm not going to request another one. >> I don't need to. >> Not because I can't. Because I don't
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want to. >> I didn't want to anyways. So, I'm not human apparently. Damn. >> And that's going to be my excuse for
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everything now. It's kind of like a high compliment though because maybe I thought you were just so gorge.
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>> I love that you are you say that because my initial thought was okay I know I
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didn't put on makeup >> no today and my hair is a little greasy. >> No, but I am a human.
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>> Your hair doesn't even look greasy from me. >> Like what a roast. >> No, I would take that as like you're so
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gorgeous that you look like an AI robot. >> I'm an otherworldly creature. >> Yeah, you're a siren.
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>> I'm going to take that. >> I wouldn't ever let Facebook call me ugly. >> Yeah. F [ __ ] Mark Zuckerberg.
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>> Yeah, [ __ ] them all >> for not letting me prove my human being status. >> Yeah,
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>> but how do you moral of the story is I was right. I didn't want to be on Facebook anyway. So,
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>> who does? >> Who does? >> So, that's that was my morning. >> Damn. Anything else new in your neck of
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the woods? >> Um, what else is new in my neck of the woods? Um, I'm going to the Ghost
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concert. >> Oh my god. And so it begins. >> Yep. the first concert in the United
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States. >> She's going to go to two and she's going to be like, "It wasn't enough."
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>> 100%. >> I need to go to Bore cuz we're going to that one and then like 11 days later
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we're going to the Boston one. Oh my god, I love it. I'll take your kids for both
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>> and I'm very excited. I know. They're very excited that they get to hang out with Tiki.
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>> They're having a puppy sleepover. Um I have a new family me member named Dolores.
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>> Family member. >> I have a new family member named my sweet dog tur. Dolores.
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>> Dolores is a queen. >> Yep. Dolores Katana Cisacic. >> I love her so much. >> She loves you a lot.
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>> She does. We bonded immediately. >> She loves you and she loves Aiden, my cousin, and she loves her parents, of
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course. She's the best. Having a puppy was going to be so hard and like there are, you know, hard like things, but
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>> that [ __ ] sleeps through the night. >> I know you got I think Drew said like we
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got a pre-programmed one. We literally He thought that was like the best way to describe it.
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>> He was like, I've had I think he's had three dogs. This is his third. And like
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obviously he loves all his dogs, but he said Dolores is the best dog he's ever had.
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>> I mean, yeah, she's easy peasy lemon squeezy. >> And I think she was sent to us because
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there's like all these weird like signs that go along with how we adopted her and I'm not going to share them all cuz
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they're like personal, but >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I love her and I'm obsessed with her and she's better than everyone in
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the world. >> Yeah. And I think um Bailey might have sent her along to you as well.
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>> I definitely think that's >> I think she had a hand a paw in it. >> Yeah. You know,
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>> I know cuz she has Bailey tendencies. >> She does. >> And actually, she's doing really well
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with the cats. We did like slow introductions and, you know, we're still working on it, but she's getting along
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with her brothers. >> She's killing it. Really? >> Yeah. Lux wants to know everything about
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her. >> Yeah. Lux is just like, "Please tell me your life story." >> He He He said that to her the other day.
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>> I heard it. >> Yeah. So, now I have four livestocks and >> four live animals.
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>> I'm living. We are living over here. >> We are living in these streets. >> Um, yeah. Do you have anything else?
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>> Um, the paperback of the butcher game is out. >> Get it. >> Uh, you can go get it anywhere. Um, or
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pre-order it, I should say. It's not like out out, but the pre-order is available.
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>> Yeah. Can you um Can you be specific, please? >> Sorry. Sorry, girl. I'm not human. I'm
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new here. >> Kind of actually very human of you. >> But yeah, you can pre-order it. Go to
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the butcherame.com or you can pre-order it on Amazon. You can pre-order it at Barnes & Noble. any of the indie
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bookstores that you like, you can try to pre-order it there. Um, all fun. Please
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do it. It's awesome. The paperback, like a lot of you have >> said to me that you know where that that
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back pocket paperback thing came from. It was just Mariano. It's the first one that comes to mind.
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>> I thought Gilmore Girls. I thought you said just Mariano Mariano. >> It was Mariano. And a lot of people have
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been tagging me in like videos on TikTok where somebody will talk about putting a
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paperback in their back pocket. They're like, "See, it happened." >> I love that a lot.
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>> So, yeah, you can put it in your back pocket if you want. And it's worth it. It's small enough that it can go in a
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bag. It's just real It's real nice. >> Hell yeah. >> It's real nice. >> I'm team Logan, but I feel he would put
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that in his pocket, too. >> I'm 100% team Logan. Always have been, always will be. But
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>> I still got to give Jess the easy transportation of paperback books. >> Facts. I miss saying tinyurl.com/theb
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butcher in the red. >> I know. I'm sorry. >> Fake that one of those anymore. >> We just made it easier.
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>> I know. >> But yeah, so get it so that you can be ready for anything else. You can be
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ready for everything. >> You can just be ready for the future. >> Can we tell them what happened the other
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night? I think >> What happened the other night? >> Um, we were the most connected that
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we've ever been. >> Oh, yeah. That was wild. >> The weirdest thing ever. So, we spent
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time apart, which was like super weird. Yeah. >> Not for like it was just because she had
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family and like I was at home with my dog >> and I had like a [ __ ] crazy dream. It
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was like very scary. But within my dream, Elena had come out with a book and it was on the back of something else
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that I saw. And I was like squinting trying to see the title and all I could see. First of all, before I got to the
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title, all the cover of it was Elena like in like she looked like a medium. Like
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>> a seance table. >> Yeah. At a seance table. And your arms were just like spread wide like come to
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the seance table. Let me read your future. which is obviously the cover of whatever book I write next.
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>> I know. Sorry to spoil it. >> Yeah, you spoiled it. >> What the [ __ ] >> Thanks a lot.
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>> Even in my dream, I was like, "That's not my sister." But then I was squinting
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in the title, all I could see that it started with was >> So I texted her to like tell her even
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more about the dream. And right before this, before we talked, I that same day, I had a had a conversation in the car
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with John where I was talking about what I would want to name a book that is may
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or may not come out in the future. And it was a book that was going to be one word as a title
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>> and that this that begin with. >> Yeah. And it's way too [ __ ] weird because I have never discussed this
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title with anyone. I have never said anything. >> She had not said this to me at all. And
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the in the dream it was like one word. >> Yeah. >> Which is And I couldn't see the full
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word. All I could see so clearly was an >> That's it. When she told me this, I was
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like, "This is so [ __ ] weird cuz I just talked to John about this." >> And then there was a few other weird
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things like that that happened. Some weird ones. >> Um Yeah. So, you know, no spoilers here.
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We bleeped over that. But >> hell yeah. >> Crazy. >> Yeah. >> Weird. It's all I could see.
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>> I know. It's so crazy. >> Yeah. >> It's like you knew. >> I know. I do. I know. All
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>> like you knew. >> Well, I think that's all our bid nasty. >> Yeah. >> For right now. I have a very sad case
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for us today. Um but also an very interesting case. >> The person who committed this crime is
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[ __ ] disgusting and it's just absolutely insane what they did. And uh it's a good thing that they got caught
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because this could have happened many more times I think. >> Oh boy. >> And it's very sad. So we're going to be
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talking today about the murder of Stephanie Scott. Uh Stephanie Scott was born on October 14th, 1985 in Canoindra,
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New South Wales. She was the fourth of five children born to Robert and Marilyn Scott. In the Scott family, she was said
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to be the most thoughtful of the children, which also included her two brothers, Gordon and Stewart, and her
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sisters, Robert and Kim. Her sister Kim said that Stephanie was always think of thinking of others and noted all the
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small things that she would do to make other people smile. Like she'd send them a text after midnight on their birthday
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like just to be the first one >> or she'd randomly share pictures of things that made them happy just just to
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brighten someone's day. >> It was probably that thoughtful, caring side of Stephanie's personality that
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made her want to become a teacher to enrich the lives of young people in the first place.
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>> Um her father also was a teacher, so I'm sure he inspired her path, too. And after graduating from high school, she
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applied for and was accepted into the teaching program at Charles Stewart University in Wagawaga, New South Wales.
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Wales. I said that with a ridiculous accent. >> Um, but this was one of the nation's
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more competitive teaching programs. So, this was a big deal that she got into this.
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>> Okay. >> She was so excited to be setting off on her own, pursuing her own dream of
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becoming a teacher. But at the same time, she was also very anxious because she was leaving behind her boyfriend of
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several years, Aaron Woolly. Stephanie and Aaron had actually met in high school where he was a star athlete, but
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they didn't really get to know one another until they started working together at a a local grocery store.
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>> Mhm. >> So, now faced with the option of breaking up or trying to navigate long
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distance, they decided on the latter, and they weren't going to let the three-hour drive between Kenowindra and
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Wagawaga stop them from being together. >> Okay. You always hear people say that
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high school romances aren't going to last and just like, you know, when long distance enters the chat, it's going to
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get even harder and blah blah blah. >> But Stephanie and Aaron really proved themselves to be the exception. They
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stayed together and to everybody around them, they actually made it look pretty easy.
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>> According to author Mon'nique Patterson, and we'll link her book in the show notes, uh, Stephanie and Aaron quote
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spoke often and never complained about the long three-hour drive to see each other.
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So within a month or two of her first semester, Stephanie's warm and very outgoing personality had won her
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countless new friends and especially after she joined the woman's football team, the Talland Wolves, which if
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you're listening in America, that's soccer. Ah >> her coach uh years later still said that
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Stephanie lit up a room when she walked into it. He was Stephanie's coach for three seasons and he said Stephanie was
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always the kind of player who gave her heart and soul on the field and always finished with a smile win or lose. Oh,
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like just a good sport. >> Her teammates also shared the coach's perspective. A friend, Ruby Scandlin,
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said she was just beautiful. Everyone loved her. >> In fact, Stephanie was so beloved by her
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teammates and even members on other teams, too, that in the years after her unfortunate death, the football clubs in
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the Wagawaga area created Scotty Day after her last name. >> And on that day, it's a remembrance of
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her. Julie McClean, the assistant coach and team captain of the Riverina Lions AFL women's team, told ABC News, "We
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forged great friendships and have many great memories of her at our club. We wanted to make something positive rather
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than a sad day. So, we wanted to honor her." >> A that's really nice that they did that
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though. >> It is. >> And especially creating it like in a positive way. >> Yeah. And it says a lot about what she
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meant to them. And just the fact that like not only her own team got together and did that, but members on other teams
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as well get together who she was. That's huge. So, she had a great experience obviously at Charles Stewart University.
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But after graduation, Stephanie was really excited to go home and put that long-distance aspect of her relationship
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with Aaron behind them. >> Yeah. >> That enthusiasm enthusiasm dwindled a bit when not long after completing her
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studies, she actually got offered a position uh teaching English and drama at Leon High School, which was a
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three-hour drive from her family and Aaron >> again. But this time, Aaron said, "You
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know what? I'm gonna move with you to Leon. Like, we'll do this together this time because we're both way too excited
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to let this go." >> So, he found a job there at the local meat packing plant. [Music]
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Just like she had in pretty much every new endeavor she ever went through, Stephanie wasted no time making new
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friends at school and she became a very active participant in her new community.
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Her coworker and her friend Owen Mclofflin told reporters Stephanie was involved in so much at school. She loved
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her sport and her drama and was just an absolutely wonderful girl. Whether she was in the classroom, she was on the
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field where she coached the school's football team, she wasted no time just establishing herself as a positive force
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in the school's community. One of her 12-year-old players said, "Miss Scott is an amazing and beautiful lady that would
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just help you out no matter what." >> Oh, that breaks my heart. >> I know. So, now that they struck out on
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their own and really established themselves in Leon, Stephanie and Aaron decided to take a celebratory trip to
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Thailand in 2014. and her sister Kim said, "I remember sending her a message saying, "I don't know why I'm sending
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you this, but I feel like something really special is gonna happen." Like talking about the trip.
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>> Yeah. >> Kim's suspicion turned out to be spot on because while they were away in
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Thailand, Aaron proposed one night after dinner. And of course, she accepted >> in Thailand.
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>> I know. How a gorgeous place. >> Truly. So, they got home and Stephanie got right to work planning the wedding.
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She was so excited. They set their date for April 11th, 2015. just one week after Easter. The guest list included
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over a hundred names and she was so excited that she hand wrote and addressed every single invitation cuz
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she was just so excited to be planning the wedding and getting married to Aaron.
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>> Author Mon'nique Patterson wrote, "It was her way of savoring every minute associated with what would be the
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happiest day of her life. >> But unfortunately, she was not going to get the opportunity to experience that.
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By the time the first week of April 2015 arrived, Stephanie was pretty sure she had taken care of every single detail
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for the upcoming wedding and the honeymoon too that was going to follow. But still, she was a fidious worker and
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she wanted to make sure that everything was just so. So on the morning of Sunday, April 5th, she decided to stop
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by her classroom at the high school and go over her lesson plans and her other coverage documents just one last time
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that she was going to leave for the sub. So Aaron had actually gone to Canoindra
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the night before to go to a party. So she texted him that morning and said she was going to school for a few hours, but
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she was going to be home in time for them to make an 8:00 p.m. dinner reservation. So on his way back to Leon
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that afternoon, Aaron called Stephanie a few times, but every single call went unanswered and he was texting her and
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those weren't getting any answered. >> So that was so stressed out. He was stressing out, but at the same time, he
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kind of assumed, you know, like maybe she got caught up in her work or maybe she met up with a friend and her phone
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died. Like, you don't know. So, he was like, I'll just talk to her when I get home.
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>> But then he got back home to Leon a few hours later and there was no sign of Stephanie at the house. So, now he
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really was getting even more anxious than now there's an empty house, unanswered calls, unanswered texts. So,
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he got in his car and he drove over to the school. But at that point, the school was locked and there was no sign
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of Stephanie or her car anywhere. >> That's horrifying. >> So from there, he just started driving
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around town trying >> at that point. >> That's the thing. And like you always, I'm sure, feel like you're going crazy.
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>> Yeah. >> It's like when you like, have you ever like lost somebody that you were with in
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the supermarket or something and you're like, "Oh my god, like what if they're not there?" And then you're like, "No,
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that's crazy." And then you find that person >> and you're like, "Did I miss something?
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like did they tell me they were going somewhere and I just didn't hear it or what's going on,
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>> right? >> Yeah. >> So, he's driving around. He's like, I'm I'll find her. >> But he's driving around. He's driving
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around. He's not finding her. So, he realized pretty quickly it was going to be a long shot finding Stephanie this
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way. So, on his way back home, he started calling her family and her friends to see if they had heard from
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her, and nobody had heard from her or seen her that day. So, he really had nothing left to do. He called the police
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and reported her missing. >> Yeah. The next day, while uh Aaron and Stephanie's parents spoke with the
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police, the rest of the Scott family took to social media to spread the news about Stephanie's disappearance. Um the
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post where they shared that news was shared more than 1,500 times. >> Wow. >> But somehow failed to produce any
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credible leads. Damn. >> None whatsoever. >> Later that day, Aaron spoke to reporters
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and asked anybody who might have seen or heard from Stephanie to get in touch with him or someone in the family, the
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police, anybody. He told reporters it's really out of character. Someone said they saw her at Woolworths, which is a
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grocery store around 1:00 p.m. on Sunday, but no one has seen or heard anything since.
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>> It's so wild when people will think they see someone Yeah. >> in these scenarios.
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>> Yeah. >> Like you'll hear hear these reports later of people being like, "Oh, I
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thought I saw them at this place or this place." >> Yep. >> Yeah. Not always. >> By that afternoon though, it seemed like
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the entire Leon community actually joined in on the search for Stephanie. Like this was all hands- on deck kind of
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thing. >> Community effort. >> Yeah. Big community effort. The high school football team was involved. Aaron
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and Stephanie's co-workers. Aaron's own touch football team. Like anybody who was connected to them was trying to
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help. >> Yeah. >> But not everybody was convinced that Stephanie had disappeared so much as
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she'd run away. Obviously, it wouldn't be the first time a bride to be would run away because of
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like cold feet or stress or, you know, maybe they feared that they were going to make some kind of mistake by getting
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married. But Aaron was like, "No, she didn't run away. We're one week out from our wedding and she's very much looking
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forward to it." >> Well, that's all accounts was that she was unbelievably excited for this.
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>> There was not one person who said otherwise, >> who said like, "Oh, she seemed like she
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was a little >> No, >> like it seemed like she was like psyched. >> She was super psyched." and he said,
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"I've been with her for five years, her disappearance is out of the blue. It's out of character for her."
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>> Yeah. And he knows. >> And he does. And her family knew, too. >> But because they had to start somewhere,
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and obviously because it's unfortunately pretty common for people to have been involved in the disappearance of their
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spouses and partners, police did initially suspect that maybe Aaron had something to do with her disappearance,
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>> which you can understand. >> Yeah. Luckily, they actually were able to rule him out pretty quickly. Yeah.
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But there was still a segment of the public that remained skeptical of his story and you know
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>> Oh, yeah. >> armchair detectives, the whole nine. >> Well, there's you could have every shred
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of proof and there's certain people that just don't want to hear it. They want their own opinion to be right.
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>> Yep. So, looking back on some early suspicions of his own, actually, local journalist Steve Mud said it was school
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holidays. She had a wedding later that week, and being a bit of a cynic, I wondered if maybe she was just taking a
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little time for herself. There was chatter about it in the newsroom, but when the family really came out as
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concerned and the hours dragged on and on, it became more and more clear that something sinister had occurred there.
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>> The shift in the press toward taking the story more seriously seemed to come on
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the third day without any word from Stephanie. And that was when her parents really started to express a deep concern
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that somebody had done something to prevent her from coming home. >> Her mother, Marilyn, told the press,
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"It's the worst thing I've ever been through. I think today if we don't find her today, you can't let yourself think
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about it, but you do. It's cold and we're running out of days. >> Oh my god. And her poor mother.
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>> I can't imagine. >> I can't fathom this. >> No. And just the days are turning into
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like the hours are turning into days. It's like >> and having to start coming to this
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realization that like there's a real possibility you're not going to find her or that you are and it's going to be the
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worst case scenario. >> I truly cannot imagine. But Marilyn Scott also addressed the occasional
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suggestions that her daughter had run off to avoid her own wedding. She said everything was pointing toward the
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wedding and that Stephanie could not have been more excited. >> Yeah. >> Her sister Robin also e echoed her
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mother's sentiment and said, "I spoke to her on Saturday night and she was over the moon. She was so excited. She had
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been to Griffith that day shopping and getting ready for her honeymoon." >> Yeah. So, it's like I don't that this
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doesn't make sense. >> No. So, by the afternoon of April 8th, those uh hopeful of finding Stephanie
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safe were dealt a major blow that would quickly break the case wide open. The friend who had told investigators that
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they saw Stephanie at the grocery store on Sunday afternoon, the day she went missing, changed their story when they
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realized that they had the wrong day. And it was actually most likely the day before, Saturday, that they had seen
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her. >> Oh, come on. So that meant that the last time anyone had seen Stephanie was at
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Leon High School. But the biggest break in the case came a few hours later when investigators announced that they had
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arrested Leon High School janitor Vincent Stanford in connection with Stephanie's disappearance,
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>> which seemed abrupt to everybody. >> Yeah. And the news of Stanford Stanford's arrest was accompanied by the
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grim news that police had also found Stephanie's car earlier that day >> and it was being treated as one of two
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crime scenes. >> Oh no. >> The other one being a quote residential property in Leon. Superintendent Michael
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Rowan told the press, I can say her vehicle has been located. It was located at a property at Wamoon earlier today
00:22:35
and is presently being secured as as a crime scene and will be processed during the day. The next morning, April 9th,
00:22:42
24-year-old Vincent Stanford was formally charged with the murder of Stephanie Scott. Investigators at this
00:22:49
point actually still hadn't found her body yet, but they initially started looking into Vincent after finding some
00:22:54
holes in his alibi. And when they were able to search his property, investigators found a quote
00:23:01
number of items linked to Miss Scott's death, >> including a cell phone evidence that
00:23:06
contained what they said was photographic evidence. >> Oh. where they discovered photos of what
00:23:12
appeared to be a burnt body. Yeah. Oh, this is awful. Yeah. So, while investigators interviewed Vincent at the
00:23:21
Leon police station, a second set of detectives used a helicopter to locate Stephanie's car, a red Mazda, which they
00:23:27
ended up finding in an abandoned wheat field about 5 miles outside of Leon. Inside the car, they found blood stains
00:23:34
and additional evidence that 100% suggested foul play. The arrest of Vincent Stanford came as a
00:23:41
surprise to Stephanie's friends and family, mostly because, as far as anybody could tell, he was a complete
00:23:46
stranger to her. Like, she did not have any connection to this man other than the fact that they worked at the same
00:23:51
school. >> Oh, that's scary. >> Yeah. He had only moved to the area with his mother and his brother just one year
00:23:57
earlier. And the weirdest thing was that neighbors actually reported this family
00:24:01
to be a very polite one. They said they were I hate that. Super polite, kept to themselves, but were pretty normal. One
00:24:09
neighbor said they would always say hello in the street just like everyone does when you live in a tiny town like
00:24:13
ours. And another neighbor went as far as describing them as beautiful people. I literally hate that.
00:24:20
>> Yeah, >> because I hate the fact that you can sit there and go, "Wow, I said hi to them
00:24:25
every day and they said hi to me." >> And it just goes to show when something like this happens. It could be anyone.
00:24:32
>> Yeah. You can't tell. No. >> Like, you can't be like, "Oh, I bet that person's a serial killer." Cuz nine
00:24:37
times out of 10, you're going to be wrong. >> You look this guy up, he looks like a
00:24:40
pretty normal guy. Like, if that was my neighbor, I'd be like, "Oh, hey." Like, "What's up?"
00:24:43
>> He has a face that you want to punch so hard, he would go flying into the sun.
00:24:48
>> Yeah. Knowing what you know about him now. >> Knowing what you know about him now.
00:24:51
But, >> but if you didn't know, he would just be random guy on the street. >> You'd probably just be like, "Hey."
00:24:55
>> Yeah. You would just be a very normal dude. >> You'd have normal interactions. like I
00:24:59
wouldn't cross the street if I saw him coming or anything like that, you know. >> Yeah.
00:25:03
>> So, after the announcement that Stephanie might have been abducted by someone who worked at the school, Leon
00:25:08
High School officials were quick to distance themselves and they explained that the school's janitorial staff were
00:25:13
contracted through an outside agency like we didn't do it. They said you can talk to that outside agency
00:25:19
>> and that uh agency was Colin Josing Company. When Colin Joss was contacted for comment, the manager for the company
00:25:25
did confirm that Vincent Stanford had been employed with the company since 2014 and had actually quote undergone
00:25:32
standard criminal checks before he was employed. >> That's even scarier. >> Even scarier. The manager also confirmed
00:25:39
that he actually wasn't supposed to be scheduled to work at the school that day,
00:25:44
>> but they weren't able to confirm if he had uh keys to the school or not. >> Ooh.
00:25:49
>> Which like you should know who has keys to a high school. >> To a school. >> Yeah.
00:25:53
>> Yeah. >> Everybody's worst fears though were confirmed a few days later on April 10th
00:25:59
when the burnt body of a woman was discovered in Coco Perah National Park about 40 miles away from Leon.
00:26:06
Superintendent Rowan said, "The investigation is ongoing, but in terms of our searching and things like that,
00:26:10
we certainly believe the remains are those of Stephanie." Oh, >> that's awful. >> He told reporters that they focused
00:26:15
their investigation on that area after somebody reported seeing a man throwing something into an irrigation ditch on
00:26:22
that Monday evening. >> Uh in in that area, investigators also found an iPad belonging to Leon High
00:26:29
School in the irrigation ditch, and that was not far from the burnt remains. But
00:26:34
basically that confirmed the body to be Stephanie at that point and then they could do forensic testing.
00:26:40
>> That is horrifying. >> Yeah. Now after his arrest for Stephanie's murder, Vincent Stanford was
00:26:46
held without bail in a jail cell in Leon where investigators were just trying to
00:26:50
piece together what happened on that Easter Sunday at Leon High School because remember it's Easter Sunday.
00:26:58
>> Damn. >> She's planning this wedding. She's one week out from the wedding. just popping
00:27:03
in there to make sure everything's taken care of. >> That's the thing. Making sure her
00:27:06
students are going to have what they need while she's gone. That the sub has everything they need.
00:27:10
>> Just being a good colleague, a good teacher. >> Yeah. Just being a good [ __ ] person.
00:27:15
>> So Vincent started working at the school in early March of 2015 in what was supposed to be a temporary position that
00:27:21
would have ended a few weeks after his start in March. >> [ __ ] >> But for some reason, his contract was
00:27:27
extended. Per his contract, he was authorized to do his cleaning before and after school hours, specifically from
00:27:34
3:30 a.m. to 8:30 a.m. and 3:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. And he was not authorized to be on the property during weekends.
00:27:42
>> Oh [ __ ] >> So he never should have supposed to be there. >> No. And despite that, there were times
00:27:47
where he quote was witnessed entering and leaving the girl's toilets during school hours, which given his role in
00:27:54
the school didn't raise red flags because he's a janitor until after his arrest. But like, are we not like is he
00:28:01
only coming out of the girls bathrooms? Cuz that would that should raise a red flag.
00:28:05
>> That's the thing. >> That should at least at the very least somebody should be like, "What's going
00:28:10
on there? What are you doing there?" Like, if it seems weird to you, it's probably weird. Check it out.
00:28:14
>> Just check it out. >> Check it out. And had you checked it out, you would have
00:28:18
>> someone, you offend someone. Who cares? You might have saved someone. >> You would have realized that he wasn't
00:28:21
supposed to be there during those times anyway. >> Which by no means is this anybody's
00:28:25
fault that like you know this I'm just saying like >> that's why you check things out.
00:28:28
>> That's why don't feel stupid just saying something if something seems wrong. >> That's all I'm saying. You got to trust
00:28:35
your gut. >> Yeah. [Music] But once the mistaken grocery store sighting had been corrected as having
00:28:55
occurred the day before Stephanie disappeared, investigators shifted their focus to the school where she had last
00:29:00
been seen. and working their way through a list of people who would have come into contact with her throughout that
00:29:05
day. Detectives ended up paying a a visit to the home Vincent shared with his mother and his brother under the
00:29:11
guise of just making standard inquiries. >> He told investigators that he had definitely been at the school that day,
00:29:17
but he did not see Stephanie while he was there. So, they were like, "Okay, like, thank you for your time." They
00:29:22
start leaving the house and suddenly he called after them and they said with an odd smirk on his face, he told them,
00:29:29
"Good luck finding her." Oh, [ __ ] this guy. Yeah. [ __ ] this. I That right there would have
00:29:38
been I'd be like, "Wow." So my entire life's mission is to make sure that you never see the light of day again.
00:29:43
>> Pretty much. >> That would have sealed it for me. >> That's pretty much what happened.
00:29:47
whoever these investigators were that were there that day. >> Something about the way he said that and
00:29:52
the way his face looked, they their spidey senses started to take >> cuz that's not him. There's a very
00:29:59
specific wording there. Yeah. >> It's not I hope you find her. Good luck >> or wishing you the best. It's good luck
00:30:05
finding her like I hit her far enough that you won't find her. Like good luck. Exactly.
00:30:10
>> That's a taunt. That's exactly what that is. It's a taunt. >> Good luck. >> Yeah. And under the circumstances, his
00:30:17
comment seemed pretty [ __ ] inappropriate. Yeah. >> And said in a way that suggested he knew
00:30:21
more, but wasn't planning to ever tell. >> Saying, "Good luck, guys." >> And a quick followup on his statement to
00:30:27
them revealed several quote unquote glaring inconsistencies in his story, including, among other things, the fact
00:30:34
that he wasn't authorized to be on school property that day. They ended up there. As far as anybody could tell, by
00:30:40
putting himself at the school on the day and time that Stephanie went missing, he
00:30:45
jumped to the top of the list of people who were most likely to have seen her last,
00:30:48
>> of course. >> So, later that day, a strike force led by detective inspector Tim Clark and
00:30:53
composed of detectives and uh uniformed officers went back to his house that same day to interview him further. He
00:31:01
wasn't at home when they arrived, but his mother was. And she voluntarily allowed them in the house, and she gave
00:31:06
her written consent allowing them to search the premises. >> Good. >> Queen [ __ ]
00:31:11
>> Queen [ __ ] Cuz there are so many people that wouldn't do that. >> She would have been like, "Not my baby
00:31:15
boy." >> But she said, "You think you have something? Go ahead and check my house."
00:31:19
>> During a search of his bedroom, police found a set of keys matching those reported to have been in Stephanie's
00:31:25
possession when she went missing. And that allowed them to declare the house a crime scene and gave them the power to
00:31:30
prevent anyone from leaving the premises. >> The fact that this [ __ ] loser is going back to his mom's house after
00:31:37
doing this [ __ ] >> Yep. >> I hate this guy. >> It's so messed up. He went back to his
00:31:42
mom's house in her car. >> Holy [ __ ] >> Cuz remember her car was missing when Aaron started driving around looking for
00:31:48
it. it. Not long after the house was declared a crime scene, Vincent Stanford re returned home and agreed to accompany
00:31:55
the investigators back to the Leon police station. He said, "Sure, I'll answer some of your questions." At the
00:32:00
same time, detectives started searching his car and that's where they found the images of a burnt body among the cell
00:32:06
phone pictures in his cell phone. And in the car, they found several spots of what appeared to be blood in the back
00:32:12
seat. The fact that he took pictures of her burnt body on his cell phone >> Yeah.
00:32:18
and just sick. Wait for the comment that he has about that. >> Oh lord. >> When Tim Clark finally sat down to talk
00:32:24
with Vincent, it seemed like he had an answer for everything. >> He said no. He maintained he hadn't seen
00:32:29
Stephanie on the day she went missing. Um when they asked about the scratches on his face,
00:32:33
>> that's always a telltale sign. >> He said, although I just walked into a branch I was out in the woods.
00:32:38
>> That's what they all say. >> They were like, "Okay, what were you doing in the woods?" And I'm sure he had
00:32:41
an answer for that. >> As for the photos on his phone, they had them all wrong. Those came from a
00:32:47
website. Just a website. >> Just a website with a burnt body. >> And the keys in his room, those were his
00:32:52
keys. >> Yeah, >> totally. All the answers. But what wasn't quite so easy to explain away
00:32:58
were the large number of photos on his phone of another young woman, detectives believed that he had been stalking.
00:33:05
>> Jesus. >> Yeah. So, he was definitely planning to do this again. >> Oh, yeah. Given all the evidence,
00:33:09
investigators were pretty sure they had their guy. And with the other photos suggesting he was still a danger to at
00:33:15
least one young woman, >> he was more than a little or they were more than a little reluctant to release
00:33:21
him from custody. >> Yeah. >> But police had yet to discover Stephanie's body at that point that they
00:33:26
were questioning him or her car. While they still would be able to prove or dis prove his claims at that time, at that
00:33:32
moment the evidence against him was pretty thin. >> Holy [ __ ] >> Yeah. But still, Clark's Detective
00:33:38
Clark's instinct told him Stanford was absolutely responsible for Stephanie's disappearance. So, he made the bold
00:33:44
decision right there and then to charge him with murder. >> Inspector Clark. >> Inspector Clark forever.
00:33:50
>> Inspector Clark. >> He just hell yeah. He was like, "No, I know it. My gut tells it. You are the
00:33:56
guy. I love Clark." >> And it turned out that his instincts were pretty [ __ ] good. Yep.
00:34:01
>> And his suspicions of Stanford were well placaced. While he was in custody, Vincent made a monitored telephone call
00:34:08
to his twin brother in Adelaide where he made multiple incriminating statements about having given his brother some of
00:34:15
Stephanie's belongings, including her engagement ring. >> Oh, that's so Oh, that's horrifying.
00:34:22
>> It's awful. >> Just thinking about that and have thinking about her fiance having to hear
00:34:26
that information. >> I can't like >> I can't even imagine. >> Yeah. And investigators learned that the
00:34:33
rings had been pawned for $75, but by the time they were able to track down the pawn shop, the jewelry had been
00:34:41
melted down, so it was never able to be returned to the family. >> That is [ __ ] devastating.
00:34:48
>> It's truly devastating. It's >> I feel awful for that family. >> It's adding insult to injury like big
00:34:54
time. >> [ __ ] >> Yeah. >> He's a piece of [ __ ] >> He's a piece of [ __ ] That's awful. By
00:35:02
the time Stephanie's remains did end up being found in the national park on April 10th, Vincent Stanford knew the
00:35:07
evidence against him was adding up to something a lot more than just circumstantial, a circumstantial case.
00:35:13
And he asked uh to meet with Detective Clark, where he did finally confess to the murder. According to him, he had
00:35:20
quote absolutely no prior plan to murder Stephanie Scott and he didn't know her at all. But as soon as he saw her come
00:35:27
into the school, he said he was overcome with the desire to kill her. >> What a [ __ ] up monster.
00:35:33
>> Just out of nowhere. >> I just saw her and I was overcome with the desire to kill her. You're a [ __ ]
00:35:38
up monster and you should be locked away. >> Oh, just wait. He's super [ __ ] up.
00:35:42
It's good that he's locked away because he would have been he would have done awful awful awful things in addition to
00:35:50
this. So Stephanie had finished her work for the day and stopped on her way out of the building to say bye to him and
00:35:56
wish him a happy Easter. Oh god. And that was when he grabbed her from behind, covered her mouth, and dragged
00:36:03
her into a nearby store room. Um, this is very triggering, so I'm going to go over it very quickly, like trigger
00:36:10
warning for people. Once he had subdued her, he sexually assaulted Stephanie and
00:36:14
then hit her over the head, punching her as many as 40 times. >> Holy [ __ ] and then cut her uh corateed
00:36:21
artery with a knife which caused her to bleed to death. >> Oh my god. >> All out of nowhere.
00:36:28
>> That's so [ __ ] violent. >> All out of completely nowhere. She stopped to wish him a happy Easter
00:36:34
before she was leaving. >> She literally waved to him and wished him a happy Easter.
00:36:40
>> Yep. >> And that's what she gets. >> Yep. He grabbed her and did all of that to her. Like he's a savage animal. Like
00:36:50
savage animal behavior. >> Like can you understand why women are scared to be to exist
00:36:56
>> around men? >> Yeah. >> A lot of the time. You know what I mean? Like this it I mean this that's
00:37:01
terrifying. >> Of course. Yeah. Like that is the most predatory, scary animalistic
00:37:08
monstrous behavior I can imagine. You literally are just like courtesy saying happy Easter. Have a good weekend.
00:37:14
>> Yeah. And he attacks you to the point of punching you 40 times and slicing your
00:37:20
corroted artery after sexually assaulting you just for saying happy Easter. >> And why would you ever think that
00:37:26
somebody like that would exist on school property? >> Exactly. You think you're safe there.
00:37:30
>> Yeah. Everybody's been background checked this that and the other thing. >> Yeah. Why would this guy And why would
00:37:35
this guy ever have like the means, the motive, the opportunity >> opportunity to do this to me here?
00:37:42
>> He shouldn't have. >> Holy [ __ ] He shouldn't have. He wasn't even supposed to be there.
00:37:47
>> That's so scary. >> It's horrifying. >> And the fact that he said he had no prior plan and it just an overwhelming
00:37:52
urge is the scariest thing I've ever heard. >> Oh, yeah. Detective Clark asked, he was
00:37:56
like, "Why did you attack her so brutally?" >> Yeah. >> And all he had to say was that he quote
00:38:01
went a little nuts when he saw her. Said, "I just went a little nuts." >> Just I saw her and I went a little nuts.
00:38:07
That's so [ __ ] scary. >> Oh, he continued. He said, "I just felt," this is a quote, "I just felt
00:38:12
like I should do it. I don't know. I've had mental problems in the past. Aggression. I think it just came back.
00:38:17
>> Oh, okay. >> Aggression. >> That's not being aggressive. That's being a monster.
00:38:25
>> And just being like, "Yeah, I don't know. I think it just came back." You think?
00:38:29
>> Yeah, I would say so. >> I would say so. >> Now, once Stephanie was killed, Stanford
00:38:34
took her engagement ring and a ring that she had been given by her parents for her graduation.
00:38:39
>> So, it was those two rings. Those two rings. Jesus. which he later uh mailed to his brother Marcus in South
00:38:44
Australia. After loading her into the trunk of her own car, he used the school's pressure washer to clean up the
00:38:51
crime scene, drove her car back to his house, where he then sat and had lunch with his mother and brother.
00:39:00
This [ __ ] just had the most violent fatal outburst and then drives her car. Which also I'm
00:39:13
like, "Hey, mom and bro, did you wonder where that car came from?" >> That's the thing.
00:39:17
>> What's that about? What's that about? Cuz I'm sorry. What the [ __ ] is that about? Did anyone ask? I'm sure they
00:39:23
probably did. And he had some explanation. And I think that's why the mom felt weird about it. why she allowed
00:39:29
them >> and that's why she let them search >> cuz like come on you got to ask. >> Yeah.
00:39:34
>> Holy [ __ ] >> So yeah, he uh had lunch with his mom and brother after that and then the next
00:39:39
day he drove out to Coco Perah National Park where he burned Stephanie's body and then left her car in the abandoned
00:39:46
field and then just walked back to his house. And that makes sense why his mom probably let them search because he
00:39:55
showed up with that car the day before and then all of a sudden he's walking home without that car.
00:40:01
>> Yep. >> Yeah. And when Detective Clark asked why Vincent had taken a photo of Stephanie's
00:40:07
burned remains, he calmly said, "Maybe I wanted a souvenir. >> Maybe I never want to see you free
00:40:14
again. Maybe I wanted a souvenir is the most disgusting thing I have ever heard in my life.
00:40:22
>> What you had done, what a piece of [ __ ] >> Maybe I wanted a souvenir. You could go
00:40:26
[ __ ] yourself. >> Holy [ __ ] >> So, after his confession, he was obviously evaluated by a forensic
00:40:32
psychologist, Anna Robard, who would prove to be essential to the prosecution's case against him.
00:40:38
>> During his uh confession and subsequent interviews with police, he provided no
00:40:42
real motive for the murder. so scary. >> Aside from just saying he quote went a little nuts, but his evaluations by uh
00:40:50
Robard provided insight into a personality that had always always been headed in the direction of violent
00:40:56
crime. >> So he'd been born in Australia in 1990. He'd been raised primarily by his mother
00:41:02
in the Netherlands and his uh older brother Luke and his twin brother Marcus lived with him as well. But he reported
00:41:08
that he had had violent fantasies as early as seven or eight years old is when they started.
00:41:14
>> Holy [ __ ] >> In her report, Robard wrote he stated he had violent he has violent thoughts when
00:41:19
people cause him stress and his violent thoughts are usually caused when people interrupt his routine and in the past he
00:41:25
has been triggered by teachers. >> What the It's like then why did you choose to work at a school? That's and
00:41:32
in the past he's been triggered by teachers that should have been like but I guess if you don't know about it it's
00:41:38
like cuz he's going to work at a school you wish that had been noted somewhere in his background that like this
00:41:44
triggers him. Don't put him in a school with teachers, >> right? >> I don't know what happened here.
00:41:49
>> In 2003 though, when he was just 13, he was expelled from school after a violent
00:41:54
outburst where he attacked a female teacher, knocked her to the ground, and choked her. I'm sorry. This wasn't on
00:42:00
his record. >> 13 years old. >> I guess he's a minor, but it's like that's nowhere in his record.
00:42:06
>> It this incident also resulted in a monthsl long period of hospitalization for him where he was then evaluated by
00:42:14
psychiatrists there and diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder, which I feel like is just so broad.
00:42:21
>> Yeah. And it's literally being like he's autistic, so he violently attacked this
00:42:25
teacher. It's like I don't like I don't really think those two things are connected, my friend. way more to that.
00:42:30
But until that point, uh Vincent told Robard he had thought his violent feelings were normal, but after his
00:42:36
hospitalization, he realized they weren't. So he quote kept it bottled up. Years after that, he came to understand
00:42:42
that his violent thoughts and fantasies were considered ab abnormal to others, but he was still untroubled by them. He
00:42:49
told her, "This is just the way I'm arranged. I don't think there's anything I can do to get them away."
00:42:54
>> Wow. >> He was like, "Yeah, this is just who I am. So I haven't ever attempted to get
00:42:57
better. I'm just going to hurt people when I get angry. >> Like he is a sick individual.
00:43:01
>> Like he sounds like he's just like I'm not going to diagnose him because I'm not a psychologist or a psychiatrist,
00:43:07
but like he sounds like he's just so dead emotionwise like void of just completely gone.
00:43:15
>> Yeah. Like cuz he's just like Yeah. I don't know. >> Well, and it's there's just no
00:43:20
>> just what I do empathy whatsoever. >> It's not even like, "Oh man, I should have done that." It's literally like,
00:43:25
"Oh, it was just me." >> Yeah. I just couldn't stop myself. >> Deal with it. >> And why do I have a picture of her burnt
00:43:31
body? Maybe I wanted one. >> Like, it's just so dead. >> It's so dead. And it's not a matter of a
00:43:37
fact. >> Yeah. It's not even like like it's it's just so dead. I can't like the flat as
00:43:42
effect of it all is so scary. >> It is very scary. >> Yeah. [Music] So, when it came to the murder of
00:44:02
Stephanie Scott, he was as forthcoming as he had been with detectives, but he didn't offer any straightforward
00:44:08
explanation for the killing during his examination. >> And it was apparent to Robard that he
00:44:12
didn't feel any remorse for this murder whatsoever. >> And in fact, he said he hardly really
00:44:18
remembered anything about it. He said, "This was just something I had to do. I couldn't stop myself."
00:44:23
>> You could. >> It's like no, >> you just chose not to. definitely could have. But in his mind, or at least
00:44:28
according to what was said, the violence was simply a means to an end for him. Something to relieve like a intense
00:44:36
tension and pressure that would build up inside of him and then he would just relieve that by attacking somebody.
00:44:41
>> Holy [ __ ] >> Yeah. Robelard wrote, he stated that he does not anticipate gaining pleasure
00:44:46
from harming others, just relief from his own urge to kill. >> So he gets relief from it.
00:44:51
>> Not Yeah. Not pleasure. >> Pleasure. Relief. So he's not like a sexual sadist per se. I guess
00:44:57
>> according to his own >> according to his own statements and her evaluation. >> Yeah. I was just going to say that's
00:45:03
according to how he's presenting. >> Yes. Because >> stuff. >> Well, to me I immediately was like,
00:45:11
well, he's a sexual satist. >> Well, he did sexually assault her, so he obviously did I hate saying this, but
00:45:17
like obviously he got some sort of pleasure from that aside from just relief. >> Exactly.
00:45:21
>> You know, >> but I don't know. This is it very interesting. >> So that's according to one yeah one uh
00:45:27
psychologist and later he claimed he did not enjoy killing Stephanie but that the
00:45:30
murder did stop the urge to hurt anybody else for several more months. >> And here's where my problem is where
00:45:36
where he sits here and says I didn't enjoy killing her. What's up with that picture?
00:45:40
>> Yeah. Why did you need a souvenir for something you didn't enjoy? >> If you didn't enjoy it, why would you
00:45:45
want to go back to it? >> And he also said the murder did stop the urge to hurt anybody for several months.
00:45:50
I'm like, "Yeah, you can't you know that you can't hurt anybody because you're in
00:45:54
police custody." >> Exactly. >> Like obviously there are times that happens, but Exactly. That's very easy
00:46:00
to say. Then >> in her summary report, Robard concluded that Vincent Stanford had quote deeply
00:46:05
entrenched structural faults in the personality construct and that he had considerable difficulty experiencing
00:46:12
emotions and forming bonds or social connections with others, which uh Yes. >> Yes. Yes. But in addition to that, she
00:46:19
said he also had elevated scores on the sadistic and aggressive scale, which is a diagnostic tool used to access uh to
00:46:27
assess a person's predisposition toward violent behaviors. >> Okay. >> Which is scary that he had very high
00:46:33
scores on that >> on the sadistic scale. Like, holy [ __ ] >> But on the contrary, despite those
00:46:40
traits, he scored relatively low on the psychopathy scale. >> Interesting. >> Yeah. According to the report, he quote
00:46:48
described having one feeling, hatred, which could be a consequence of his perception of exclusion and rejection
00:46:54
and the source of a generalized social animosity that may have triggered his angry, unpremeditated, and overwhelming
00:47:01
urge to kill the victim. He only felt hatred for >> That's in general. >> So scary that people are possibly
00:47:10
>> That's really scary that people are just walking around like that. >> Yeah. and that they could unleash that
00:47:15
hatred at any moment. >> Yeah. >> So that's that's the first evaluation that was done. A second evaluation
00:47:22
conducted by David Greenberg arrived at similar conclusions, but Greenberg differed somewhat when it came to
00:47:29
Vincent's dangerousness and capacity for violence. Greenberg believed that Vincent most likely had a paraphilic
00:47:35
disorder and did derive a sense of sexual pleasure or gratification from his violent fantasies. He said relative
00:47:42
to the general male population, his risk of sexual violence must be regarded as the highest category.
00:47:48
>> Yeah. Because like when when I heard that other one, I was like, so we're we're going with like not sexual sadist
00:47:54
even though he did sexually assault her. It's like that's the thing >> because there's many killers who will
00:48:00
kill and not sexually assault. We've covered so many >> which is like that that like that's what
00:48:06
he was kind of describing. But like the problem there was he did. So, it's like that didn't line up with what he was
00:48:12
saying. So, this >> this makes a little more sense to me. >> It does. And I will say I'm sure it was
00:48:17
probably hard to evaluate him based on the fact that like he did commit one murder and not you don't have
00:48:23
>> you don't have this pathology of of crime scenes that you can analyze. Yeah. because I feel like that must be a time
00:48:30
when you can sit there and say, "Okay, this is clearly something he does every time and this is, you know, he's
00:48:36
escalating in this way and this is the patterns of >> where all this lies." And it's like
00:48:40
right now, like you're saying, it's just one scene, one situation >> and it's like, but and I'm sure, you
00:48:46
know, he sounds like a a [ __ ] word. That's like a dead >> bullshitter. Exactly. So,
00:48:53
>> I tend to agree. I mean, like I'm not a professional in any way whatsoever, but
00:48:57
I tend to agree with the guy the other guy's opinion. >> It rings more true to me.
00:49:02
>> Yeah. So, while Vincent sat in jail undergoing one evaluation after another, detectives in Leon continued to build
00:49:08
their case against him with the understanding that despite his confession, he was still probably going
00:49:12
to be going to trial. Now, in their investigation, detectives also discovered a considerable amount of
00:49:18
evidence that not only confirmed his guilt, but also contradicted several statements he made to the police at the
00:49:24
time, and at the same time supported the findings of both psychological evaluations that had been conducted.
00:49:31
>> Among the evidence collected from his home were email receipts for quote purchases of Viagra,
00:49:36
>> ding ding ding, >> ding, ding, ding, cleaning products, a training sword, and a knife, and flexi
00:49:42
cuffs. Yeah, >> he's a absolutely a sexual satist. Absolutely 100%. >> Searches of of his computer and internet
00:49:50
search history were also very troubling. And another ding-ding moment because they included searches for among other
00:49:57
things, and this is a lot, bride rape, bride kidnapping, and other searches were conducted,
00:50:06
quote, in relation to necrilia and necro rape, as well as a variety of violent pornographic pictures and knives.
00:50:14
>> Oh, he's 100% getting pleasure out of this. >> Absolutely. >> Bride rape. >> Bride rape. She happens to be getting
00:50:21
married and he stole her engagement ring. Yeah. Like come on. There's a lot to that which [ __ ] up monster.
00:50:28
>> Well, that's the thing. It's very It's in my opinion it's too coincidental that
00:50:36
he said he just saw her that day at school. >> Didn't know anything about her. >> I think he stalked her.
00:50:41
>> I also think that especially because he was stalking someone else. >> He was stalking multiple other women.
00:50:46
Actually, >> it's clear that he was doing this. Yeah. He just didn't have the what, you know,
00:50:50
pictures of her or whatever. >> Exactly. >> Yeah. >> Now, perhaps the most disturbing
00:50:55
information they they learned during the investigation was that prior to Stephanie's murder, Benson had been
00:51:01
stalking, like I just said, multiple girls and young women who, given his search history, were almost definitely
00:51:07
intended to be future victims. >> Among them was a 12year-old girl. Oh. Who is referred to as Joanne in court
00:51:15
documents. That is not her real name. When investigators searched his computer, they found more than 1,800
00:51:22
images of this girl along with a quote book full of details pertaining to her schedule and times when she may be home
00:51:30
alone. >> Get us all in a room alone with this man. >> Yeah, get us all in a room alone with
00:51:35
him. >> I want to beat the [ __ ] out of him. On a page inside the book, he also had
00:51:42
written a list of quote stupifying drugs including Valium, chloroform, nitrous oxide, and rahypnol.
00:51:49
>> Yeah. So, this whole story of him just being like, "Yeah, I don't know. I just
00:51:52
went nuts. I had no plan for it. Go [ __ ] yourself." >> No. >> You've been planning for this for years.
00:51:57
>> Not a doubt in my mind. Get out of here. Not a doubt in my brain. >> This was not a a momentary
00:52:02
>> cuz the other thing is it's like, "Oh, you just randomly went to clean the the
00:52:05
school on a Sunday." >> No, you you were following her. He was absolutely following her.
00:52:10
>> Uh they also found a quote, and this is absolutely [ __ ] disgusting, a laminated photo of a school dance group
00:52:16
that Joanne was a part of. >> He's a piece of absolute [ __ ] >> Parents should have been allowed in a room with
00:52:25
this man. >> 100%. >> Like I just there are certain exceptions to the rule and this is one of them.
00:52:31
>> And this is one of them. >> Yeah. >> And I I will hear another >> This is one of them where you look the
00:52:35
other way. >> Yeah. Later when that evidence was presented in court, he admitted he
00:52:40
probably would have abducted and killed her if he hadn't been arrested. >> And he's he was just like, "Yeah, I
00:52:45
probably get him gone." >> Other evidence collected indicated that he had been stalking more women,
00:52:52
including a young woman who worked at uh the local supermarket and another teacher who worked alongside Stephanie.
00:52:59
>> So, it's like if he's stalking another teacher who worked with Stephanie, he's
00:53:03
absolutely stalking Stephanie. >> 100%. And he probably he might have known that she was coming that day like
00:53:09
ahead of time. >> Yep. Exactly. >> Not long after he met this teacher, he started to monitor her schedule and
00:53:14
record her comingings and going at the at the school. So between the delays, time spent on the psychological
00:53:20
evaluations and requests from the defense for more time to prepare, blah blah blah. More than a year passed by
00:53:26
the time he was supposed to be before a judge. And in that time, his twin brother had also been arrested, charged
00:53:32
with and pleaded guilty to being an accessory after the fact. >> Yeah. Because what the [ __ ]
00:53:37
>> For receiving and selling the stolen jewelry, which only strengthened the prosecution's case against Mincson
00:53:42
himself, cuz now his brother's going to prison. >> Yep. In the months since his arrest,
00:53:46
Stan uh Vincent Stanford indicated his intent to go to trial, but given all the evidence against him, the full and the
00:53:54
full confession, his defense attorneys determined it was for the best that their client plead guilty.
00:54:00
>> What do you do when wasting everyone's time >> and they hoped maybe his cooperation
00:54:03
would earn him a reduced sentence? >> I hope not. >> No. On July 19th, 2016, he did in fact
00:54:09
plead uh guilty to the murder and the aggravated sexual assault of Stephanie Scott. And his sentencing hearing was
00:54:15
scheduled for October 11th, 2016. During his sentencing hearing, his attorney argued that his client's diagnosis of an
00:54:24
autism spectrum disorder and the fact that he cooperated with police should be taken into account when passing the
00:54:31
sentence. >> You be so for real. He very well for real. He very like two things could be
00:54:38
true at once. He very well may be on the spectrum. Absolutely. But there is also
00:54:42
a load of other things that is that are that are pertinent in this case that have nothing to do with that.
00:54:48
>> It wasn't the autism that made it a no. >> It that's that's wild work. >> No. And that like frankly how [ __ ]
00:54:58
dare that guy you try to use that >> like come on. >> No. Not in this case. Wasn't he wasn't
00:55:03
that making him do this? >> No. >> So, Justice Robert Holm acknowledged that under normal circumstances, those
00:55:10
things absolutely would have been considered, >> but he was not convinced that Stanford's
00:55:14
diagnosis was a factor in the murder. And he told the defense team, "But even if it was, the extent would be minimal."
00:55:20
Exactly. Minimal. >> It just doesn't work in this circumstance. He said the calculating
00:55:24
manner in which the offender carried out the various activities following the murder and to some extent before
00:55:29
indicates he was well capable of making well well-considered choices about how to best serve his own interests and
00:55:35
achieve his objectives. >> Exactly. >> Ultimately, Justice Holm uh sentenced Vincent Stanford to 15 years for the
00:55:42
aggravated sexual assault and life in prison without the possibility of parole for the murder of Stephanie Scott.
00:55:49
According to the Guardian, there were exclaims of yes from the public gallery when the sentence was handed down. If I
00:55:55
was there, I would have been one of them. >> Yep. >> And outside the courtroom, Stephanie's
00:55:58
mother told reporters, "The past 18 months have been the most difficult and harrowing time. So much has been taken
00:56:03
away from us. Stephanie has had everything taken away from her. Stephanie embodied all that is good
00:56:09
about humankind. She made a tangible difference to the lives of so many people. Stephanie would want us to
00:56:14
resume our lives. We need to be kind to ourselves and let the music and fun back
00:56:18
in. We need to fade from public view to mourn our beautiful girl and work our way through our grief.
00:56:24
>> Oh, I just want to hug her. >> And the day after Stanford was sentenced was to be Stephanie's 28th birthday.
00:56:30
>> She was so young. >> So young. Her mother said, "This should be her 28th birthday, the second one we
00:56:37
celebrate without her. We'll be having a cup of tea and a mint slice biscuit at 3."
00:56:42
>> Which just like breaks your heart. Damn. >> But it's such a good thing that he's
00:56:48
behind bars. >> Yeah. >> But it breaks my heart that the the loss of Stephanie's life is what landed him
00:56:55
behind bars. >> Yeah. Like it doesn't make it better. >> It's just so upsetting that no one knew
00:57:01
what he was capable of before this happened. >> That was also very bold of him to say
00:57:05
that he would have probably kidnapped and murdered that 12-year-old girl before going into prison forever.
00:57:10
>> Yeah, that was a crazy bold move. I hope that uh >> I hope he's seen the results of that
00:57:15
statement. >> Yeah. I hope that Nate's heard that. >> Yeah. >> Just cuz. >> I hope you know,
00:57:20
>> just because. >> Just cuz. >> It's just a good thing for them to know. >> Yeah, that's good. Just, you know, maybe
00:57:26
let them see some Gen Pop action and see what happens. >> Hierarchies and stuff.
00:57:30
>> Yeah. Let it all shake out how it does. >> It's such a sad case. It really is.
00:57:36
>> I feel so awful for her family. For >> her family went through so much. Yeah.
00:57:40
terrible that whole community really because it seems like that whole community really loved her
00:57:45
>> and she was such a big part of all of them. Yeah, she >> they all lost someone.
00:57:49
>> She was a light in that community for sure. But it's so sad nice that they celebrate her in a way that they think
00:57:55
would have made her happy and even her mom said like we have to let the music and the fun back in our lives
00:58:01
>> cuz she would have wanted that. Again, that tells you exactly who she was that
00:58:05
people looked at it and said that her own mother sitting there being like, she would have wanted us to like party.
00:58:10
>> Yeah, she would have been >> remember her in a happy way. >> That's the thing. She must have just
00:58:14
been the best. >> Yeah. >> But that is the murder of Stephanie Scott by an absolute [ __ ] disgusting
00:58:22
piece of wet lettuce. We're bringing that back for this one. >> Oh yeah. >> And we appreciate you guys listening. We
00:58:29
hope you keep listening. And we hope you keep it weird, >> but not so that you're a piece of wet
00:58:37
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