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hey weirdos I'm Ash and I'm Elina and this is [Music] morid this is morbid post Halloween
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morbid Merry Christmas everyone happy Hanukkah happy holiday happy holidays holidays they're coming
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I'm a little bit in my post Halloween like man sad I'm sorry I have joy not that Halloween is over I'm not joyful
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about that cuz I [ __ ] [ __ ] so heavy with Halloween but I became in November 1st girly this year you did I'm never in
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November 1st like everything gone Christmas decorations up let's [ __ ] go girly but I feel that way but this
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week you said I am yeah I started my Christmas shopping I am going to I decided also this year I'm switching it
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up I'm going to get a fake tree this year that's that's a move it's a huge move for me it is I never got to I never
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got to have a real tree growing up because we always like lived in apartments and stuff so it was difficult
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and my mom was like I'm not going to get a [ __ ] fake tree like I'm busy and um
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so when I me and Drew first got or when I first moved in with M and papa they always got me a real tree because I was
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like please cuz we always got real Tre yeah and then when me and Drew got together I was like we must have a real
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tree except for the one year that we were in an apartment but this year I was like Drew asked me he was like can we go
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back to like a like a fake tree like it's a pain in the ass to have a real tree and I don't do anything for it so I
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was like no no we have to have a real one and then yesterday I was thinking I don't know you can buy them pre-lit and
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[ __ ] yeah and I'm always cleaning up the pine needles which drives me insane and
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then you can get that fze that smells like the Christmas tree it's true I'm going to get a fake one this year I
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don't know I was just feeling I'm a real tree girly you're a real tree yeah I I can't I can't relate I usually um I'll
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see how I like this and then if I don't like it I can always just like bring it to Sabers and get a real tree yeah I
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love the I love there's a different smell it is different of a real tree to like a chemical smell yes of pine one
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thing that I don't love well our cats are [ __ ] annoying a little bit cats though and also um I don't like the
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stickiness when you're taking out the tree when it's all done yeah and like you look and like the wall is sticky I
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don't like that yeah and the floor gets sticky you're like I'm going to convince
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myself that that's kind of what I'm doing not a real I don't know I don't it's just it's just a feeling actually
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it it hit me over like a freight train yeah just said fake tree I mean good for you man I support that for you thanks I
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think the girls would kill us if we didn't get a real tree they love the process of picking out a tree it's very
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fun and like the whole shebang yeah yeah I feel like when we have kids we'll go back to that yeah it's like the process
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of picking out a tree is such a yeah it's aute family day thing yeah oh I think you're now you're making
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me second guess how I feel it's that's the thing I just couldn't give up is the process of picking it out I know going
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to pick it out fun but also I was thinking too I'm just in the mood to put my tree up now like I want to put up a
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tree you can't do that and you can't you only get like two weeks out of that bad
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boy maybe three you get more than that I don't know I was going to say you get I
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havea you definitely get more than how much time do you get out of your tree 3 four weeks you get a few weeks yeah and
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then we always keep it up until the new year so yeah I don't know yeah trees trees you know we also have I mean the
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holidays are coming so like get ready we have get ready if you're listening right
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now I think it's November 14th that's what Mikey told me and because we never know we never know someday we'll know
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right it is not November 14th right now it is someday we'll get this right but um yes if you're listening right now on
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wondery plus we have some new merch that went live we got like a fun fall holiday
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collection going on whoop we got lots of cute new shirts one of them says malevolent deity so I'm like pretty
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obsessed with that that one I love that one's really cool uh there's a new hat that also says malevolent deity I like
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the stay weird with like the moth on it that's a new one that we've got going we
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got it in cropped and regular very cozy too very cozy we were very adamant about
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the feel of so like we're we're very much trying to get our hands on those things so that we want soft [ __ ] we want
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soft [ __ ] cuz I'm very I'm a texture person same if I have a like scratchy sweatshirt or t-shirt nope scratchy
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t-shirt I I'll like the thought of it makes me want to scream I'm like cringing at the moment I don't like it
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yeah um and then one thing that is also really exciting is the holiday sweater there's a morbid holiday sweater it's
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like our take on a holiday sweater it's like an ugly sweater yeah but it's like so ugly it's cute yeah exactly and
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there's like lots of cute little the details and then one thing I am so [ __ ] excited about I was like like I
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needed this is the charm bracelet oh I I love the charm bracelet the charm bracelet is very cute fun if you are
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listening right now on wonder plus had your booty over to our shop and go grab that stuff and if you're listening wide
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do it retroactively go back go back go back in time do it go do it see you yay um yeah I think that's all like the the
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biz nasty that we have going on yeah you have you have anything what's up no um one thing this is just a random thing it
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has nothing to do with really anything I love but it's just um Ash had brought up
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because we covered uh pan Labyrinth on Scream oh recently and uh I love GE mod deloro and Ash had mentioned and I
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remember seeing this a long time ago I just never watched it and Ash brought it back to my attention that geod Del Toro
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had done this Netflix Anthology series called Cabinet of Curiosities it's like eight episodes all a different different
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director that he has his hands in that's that he like curated and it's all a different like a less than an hour long
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like mini movie each one and so far [ __ ] delightful I love it oh good guys so if you haven't jumped on like
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I'm telling you it's a fun thing to jump into the autopsy is the my number one so
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far it is that's what I figured [ __ ] awesome I'm telling you everyone go watch the autopsy cuz you're mind is
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going to be [ __ ] blown yeah I haven't seen I like didn't watch any of the episodes but I was scrolling for
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something to watch on Netflix and I saw gam Doro and I was like oh I was to seen
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this [ __ ] and then I looked at like what the like what it was and I saw like the
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witch the autopsy and I was like oh this [ __ ] has got to see this it's real good
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so if you guys are looking for something to keep the spooky season alive forever
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I love that it's definitely a good one to do and if you're an ash I started rewatching Grace and Frankie there you
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go so two polar opposite girlies up in this room very different I am obsessed um so we're going to talk today
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about the suspicious super suspicious kidnapping of Sherry Pini suspicious is a very kind way to say it so suspicious
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so she jogged out of town like don't be kidnapping is also a kind way of saying it yeah I don't really know what else
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you'd call it the hoax the great hoax Cherry absolute scam folks that cherry Pini in you know terrible terrible woman
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yeah truly terrible woman complete [ __ ] complete [ __ ] douchebag of the century truly so let's get into it
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if you don't know this story you're about to so when 34-year-old Cherry Pini did not show up to pick up her kids from
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daycare on the afternoon of November 2nd 2016 everyone was immediately alarmed the the teachers at school her family
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her friends they were like that's [ __ ] weird yeah cuz who would willingly not pick up their children
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from daycare oh yeah Sher Pini yeah cuz she literally chose to leave her children at daycare to perpetuate this
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yeah incredibly [ __ ] whoa Alena's just throwing up her finger every time she does she like whoa but up until that
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point everyone just knew her as like this lovely doting stay-at-home mom like that's so scary all her energy went to
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her children like so you never think she would do something very cookie cutter white picket fence Vibes so her husband
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Keith told anchor on Good Morning America every who knows my wife knows there's no reason for her to leave she
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was definitely taken against her will and he was not in on this I'll tell you from the jump Keith was blindsighted and
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why would he have any reason to believe that somebody that is like you would never think no he thought he had like a
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great life like there's several layers of this story yes that you go in no world would I ever believe that someone
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would go this far or do this kind of absolute non sense and it just keep it piles on the
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more that adds into this you go no no no one would do that for what like Sher what did you I mean she got money out of
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it like that's for sure but I don't even think that was the not nearly enough not
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enough to do what you're doing and I don't really think that was the ultimate goal like at least in my opinion just
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like knowing about the case I don't I think the goal was like attention there's a lot of mental
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illness was a factor for sure for sure like there H it has to like this is beyond comprehension like there's a
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documentary about it yeah it's called Uh I think it's the perfect life on Hulu hold on I wrote it at the end of my
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notes it's a this documentary will blow your mind it's so good I think it's three episodes it's perfect wife the
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mysterious disappearance of Sher Pini and there was things in the documentary that I hadn't even heard about just like
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watching the case fold out oh yeah like the end of it I was like oh wow yeah you're just awful yeah in every way you
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could be that's the other thing this isn't just like you know some mental health issues going on she's just a [ __ ]
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person to the core like when you find out like the the details of who she is yeah she's an [ __ ] so it's like yeah
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it's wild I feel so bad for her family I do too I really do so let's go back to the start so earlier that day Sherry
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left her home and ring to go for a jog something she'd done countless times before it was her routine just before
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leaving for her jog she texted Keith to ask if he was going to be home for lunch
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and he said no so she went out when Keith got home from work that night a little after 5: he was surprised to find
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the house completely empty Sherry at that point was a stay-at-home mom and with the exception of a few days a week
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that the kids were in daycare she was always home with them in the afternoons and she always went and got them from
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daycare so by the time Keith got home everyone was home now according to uh Shasta County Sheriff Tom bosenko Sherry
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was last seen by a neighbor quote in the area of the old Oregon Trail and Sunrise
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Drive about a mile and a half from their home so not far at all sheriff's deputies were able to trace Sherry's
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phone to the intersection where she was last seen using a find my iPhone with Keith's help and it was there they went
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out to that intersection and they found her phone her earbuds and several strands of blonde hair which Sherry was
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a or is a blonde her mother-in-law Suzanne said of the discovery I would say my personal reaction is that it's
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twofold one is that it's good to have some sort of clue but the other portion is that it
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really points to she's been taken I mean she wouldn't just drop her phone if she
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was running away no you wouldn't think no the hair is like yeah again when you know like what's going on you're it it
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reminds me of um scream four yes when Jill is tearing out chunks of her hair yes so true and people also always
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compare this to Gone Girl y yep which I I want to say Gone Girl came out before this
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I think it was yeah because I think it was called a lot of people said it's like the Gone Girl case yeah I think
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you're right um fact check me I'll continue and you can interrupt me yeah so Sherry had she'd always been a
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dedicated wife and mother up to that point she rarely deviated from her routine she didn't have any physical or
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mental health conditions that anybody knew about at that point and she had never had any interaction with law
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enforcement so simply put she was the last person that anybody would have ever expected to just disappear Without a
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Trace Honkers initially sheriff's deputies fanned out across the area where she was last seen looking for any
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evidence that might Point them in the right direction but with the exception of the phone the earbuds and the hair
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evidence the search really didn't turn up anything else as far as Clues so a few days later nearly 150 friends family
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and neighbors spread out across reading to help search for Sherry and many others handed out flyers or posted on
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social media like the community was very active in this case it was one of those
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cases where you actually see the best of a community like banding together yeah everybody kind of bands together to help
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someone yeah that they think needs help that they think needs help and they spend resources and money and time
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looking for this person Gone Girl the book came out in 2012 and the uh the movie came out in 2014 oh okay so like
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the movie came out like right before someone took notes somebody absolutely took notes not a doubt in my mind so
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there were local businesses even offering their services or aiding in the search themselves and local
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organizations like Shasta support service or Shasta County Guardian Angels were helping to coordinate different
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searches these poor people they put that's the thing like this community really was amazing yeah deserve fall the
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praise yeah and everything you would hope would happen when somebody actually [ __ ] disappeared yeah they all did
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their job and above it Sherry's sister Sheila told a reporter I was just overwhelmed with all of the community
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involvement like couldn't believe it within a few days of of Sherry's disappearance a massive Facebook group
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was generating a large number of tips but at that point none were particularly useful and meanwhile in Reading
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investigators started questioning the known sex offenders living in the area but all had aliis that quickly checked
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out so they were ruled out as suspects and in an effort to encourage more tips from the public secret witness a
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community- based organization to help with missing persons cases offered a $10,000 reward for any information
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leading to sher's safe return damn a day later that reward was raised to $50,000 thanks to a huge number of
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private donations unbelievable and those who couldn't donate money seemed more than happy to donate their time people
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were literally driving to reading from other parts of California having been just absolutely moved by the growing
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number of articles about this woman that everyone at that point was referring to
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as super mom wow than of how big California is yeah and people were driving from all over just to go
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particip IP at in the search because this woman was so like such an inspiring mother to them an inspiring wife that's
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what's so scary is it's like this that's the thing like people were not wrong to
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to be taking that from her cuz that's what was being portrayed yeah exactly and it's like damn there's a lot of lot
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of um compartmentalization of personalities here yeah definitely so despite the truly remarkable Community
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effort and countless man hours from local law enforc a week passed and there was still no sign of Sherry or even the
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slightest hint of where she could have possibly gone by that point the Sheriff's Office had to consider the
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possibility of Foul Play obviously but they still weren't willing to confirm anything just yet uh Lieutenant Anthony
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berain told reporters on November 8th just based on the way this investigation kicked off we're still handling this as
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a missing person at risk we're investigating all avenues right now we're not set on one particular
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direction now the lack of news from local law enforcement was obviously frustrating for the family and for the
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community who were starting to feel like all their efforts weren't getting them any closer to finding Sher I can't
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imagine that uh her sister Sheila said at the time the frustrating part is we feel like we're going on nothing I think
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we exhausted the resources that we have out here to search for her we feel that it's moved to where she's been taken
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from this area and everyone in the nation needs to be looking so they were thinking she was beyond cnia at that
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point yeah and that must be the scariest thought CU thinking she could be anywhere yeah literally anywhere and
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like how are we going to find her in this like entire [ __ ] country how do we narrow this down at all exactly now
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while the family's concerns of a kidnapping were understandable they also were entirely plausible because less
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than a month earlier on October 12th 51-year-old Stacy smart disappeared from her home in Leon which is only about an
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hour from reading and with Sherry's disappearance happening so soon and with the two women sharing pretty similar
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features many in the community started to worry that maybe there was some kind of seral offender operating which was
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probably the the aim probably so with no new evidence and a growing fear that something truly truly nefarious had
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happened to Sher suspicion of course fell on Keith Pini particularly among the Facebook group that was dedicated to
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finding Sherry and this is where it can get dangerous this is where it can get dangerous exactly because sure it
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happens a lots are involved but there are also cases where they are not involved and they are just dedicated to
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finding their wife it's when it starts happening on like particularly Facebook I feel like like any kind of social like
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any kind of social media where it's like people are just getting kind of roasted
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on at the you know like at the stake for for just like theories it's like that's
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when it can get bad because well and also anybody can go on Facebook and say anything lit on any social media and say
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anything about anybody so it's like that's dangerous yeah and then it can compromise the investigation especially
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when it's an active investigation yes exactly so on November 9th Sherry's father actually Rod Rodriguez took to
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Facebook to defend his son-in-law saying we recognize that in 80% of The Disappearance cases the spouse is
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responsible but conversely that means in 20% of the cases that the spouse is not
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involved this case falls into the latter category that's a big thing right there
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for her father to be like I'm not even going to entertain that idea he knows the guy that's huge like he knows the
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guy more than anybody on social media knows the guy you know yeah exactly and as evidence of Keith Ence Rodriguez
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pointed to the fact that Keith had fully cooperated with law enforcement and noted that his Alibi checked out he was
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at work at the time his boss confirmed that he had been at work at the time and the police even checked the cell and GPS
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data recovered from his phone on the day of The Disappearance and that also checked out with his it's like you've
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got like a fully like a three-pronged way of telling that he is not involved exactly but if he wasn't responsible who
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the [ __ ] was this was obviously the question that the Sheriff's Office was grappling with once they cleared all of
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the more likely Suspects on their list because I can't I feel like obviously clearing suspects is a good thing but
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the more and more you cross people off that list and their aliis are checking out you're losing you go from there Ste
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like that's the thing like once you cross people off it's great cuz you're saying cool that the husband didn't do
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it that's a plus that's reiring and like you know other people it's like yeah you're narrowing it down but sometimes
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it gets too narrow and then it's like you got nothing left yeah like what AV where do we go from here right so
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investigators searched this is where they went from here they search state and local databases for cases with
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details that were matching cherries but they didn't even find any connections damn in fact they even ruled out
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non-human attackers like mountain lions sometimes in that area mountain lions wander down into town and they can pose
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a threat to the public I the fact that they even went that far yeah to narrow that like that's pretty big they were
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doing their due diligence for sure the sheriff said there were no signs of blood or struggle and tracking dogs also
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never picked up the scent of a body it seemed like Sher had literally jogged out into that intersection outside of
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town and just evaporated into the air leaving behind only her phone and that like the earbuds and the hair as
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evidence that she was even there so despite the incredible CommunityWide search effort and the considerable
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reward for information which at that point had reached nearly $100,000 damn three weeks passed with no
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new leads no new evidence nothing then in the early morning hours of November 24th 2016 a driver on Interstate 5 in
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Yolo County spotted what appeared to be a young woman standing on the side of a rural road trying to flag him down and
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this was about 150 mil from Reading wow so the driver pulled over and was stunned to find that the woman who was
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still bound at the wrists and a looked like she had been severely beaten was none other than Sherry Pini I remember
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this it's so weird I don't remember this at all and I was like out of high school
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I literally don't remember this in any way remember I remember it and I remember everyone probably including
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myself at the time thinking when I was watching it like the husband did it yeah I mean like immediately thought it you
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do automatically thater an [ __ ] for thinking that damn but yeah it was it was a wild news story
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yeah cuz when she was found it was like whoa and then and you were like what is going on that really never
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happens like obviously like very rarely does it happen you and far between and then when somebody does get recovered
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and like they still can't find the people that did it and it was how it was her immediate uh and we'll obviously get
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to it but her description of her attackers immediately I think went huh huh that's weird her immediate
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description of her attackers and then they dig into her past and her opinions and that's why it went huh yeah we'll
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get there H yeah trigger warning right up here for racism yeah so the driver immediately obviously called the
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California Highway Patrol to report the discovery and officers were at the scene
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within minutes they quickly requested backup for what they described as a woman who was quote unquote heavily
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battered and she was yeah in his statement to the press the sheriff said we are very ecstatic to report that
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cherry Pini has been located and has been reunited with her husband and family on this day of Thanksgiving
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I happy to say that Sherry is now safe and that she has been treated at uh at an area Hospital outside of Shasta
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County for non-life-threatening injuries so at the time the Sheriff's Office had little to say in the way of
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details telling reporters just that Sherry's injuries were non-life threatening authorities were now on the
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lookout for a quote dark colored SUV with two Hispanic females armed with a handgun H in the days that followed
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small details about the case started to emerge via the Sheriff's Office Sherry had been discovered a quote short amount
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of time after being dropped off by her captors according to the sheriff but he added there is sensitive information
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that is being withheld at this time that I'm not able to put out and please respect this until such time when we're
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able to make an arrest and bring these criminals to Justice and Cherry's abduction so there was a lot that they
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were working on at this point that they were keeping close to the chest yeah but
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by the end of the month the family had put out a press release detailing some of the information yet to be released to
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the media in the 3 weeks since her abduction Cherry had dropped to 87 PBS wow and was quote covered in
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multicolored bruises severe burns red rashes and chain markings which sounds [ __ ] horrific absolutely and you
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would never in your mind think that somebody would be able to create those injuries on their own yeah just like
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willingly yeah but according to her husband Keith Sherry had quote suffered incredibly through intense physical
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Agony and severe mental torture among other things her hair had been cut off she had been branded with the word
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Exodus like genuinely literally branded and she told police that she believed it
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was a reference to the Bible and uh in addition to her other injuries the bridge of her nose had been broken damn
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so she like she had any part of her body that was visible was injured and just and also like her hair being cut off
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like that's so psychologically [ __ ] like yeah horrifying in his statement Keith said nothing could have prepared
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me for what I was about to see upon my arrival at the hospital nor the details of the true hell I was about to hear the
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mental prison I was in over the past three weeks was shattered when my questions of my wife's reality became
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known that's like I can't imagine seeing the person you love like that and thinking about what they've gone through
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for three weeks and think about in the three weeks that Cherry's been gone I'm sure all Keith is doing is imagining
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what's happening to her and where she is and who has her and his mind is probably
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coming up with all these [ __ ] up scenarios while trying to be a parent while trying to still take care of his
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two little kids by the way these kids were little and then he walks into the hospital and sees her and it confirms
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like probably his worst nightmares were true yeah so I can't imagine horrific so
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while most people were happy to learn that cherry had returned home safely some found her safe return to be a bit
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suspicious for one thing there appeared to be no motive for the abduction to hear the the story as Sherry told it and
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as it would be repeated by the sheriff and family members she was abducted by quote two Hispanic female adults Who
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quote spoke uh Spanish the majority of the time of her captivity and concealed their faces in an attempt to hide their
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identities from her so according to the Sheriff's Office these were the only known abductors but when it came to a
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motive the sheriff said we still do not have a motive as to the reason why Miss Pini was taken we do not know if she was
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a specific Target or if this was a r random abduction because it's like they weren't asking for ransom they weren't
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asking for ransom so they just abducted her to hold her and beat the [ __ ] out of
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her for a few weeks and then Dr on the side of the road like why and like not like that's like that's I'm not saying
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that like people aren't [ __ ] and people don't just do things to do them we cover cases all the time where people
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do things just to do horrible things there's a case that I'm going to reference uh in a minute here where like
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that very thing did happen so I think that's also by the police weren't really saying like Okay this is impossible well
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they can't like they they have to explore every Avenue and you're right they have there's got to be at least a
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slight precedent to be like okay this is possible Right is it a little out of the
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realm of of you know likely yeah definitely but we got to look at it we can't investigate it like it didn't
00:26:50
happen because again what if that is what happened you don't want to be sitting there being like hm you're lying
00:26:56
like you know what I mean and find out that this is is really what happened and this person is traumatized from it the
00:27:01
police in this case absolutely did their due diligence like absolutely but lack of motive was not the only reason people
00:27:08
were suspicious there was also what many people perceived to and you kind of hinted at it earlier to be an
00:27:13
overemphasis on the kidnappers race yeah and a case surprisingly light on details
00:27:18
and evidence and one where the kidnappers wore masks or obscured their identities otherwise there was an
00:27:25
unusual focus on their racial characteristics mhm through the course of their investigation reporters
00:27:30
discovered multiple blog posts apparently written by Sherry in 2007 where she quote made racist comments
00:27:37
about Latinos among other things ding ding in one post she wrote I used to come home in tears because I was getting
00:27:44
suspended from school all the time for defending myself against the Latinos the chief problem was that I was drug-free
00:27:50
white and proud of my blood and Heritage this really irked a group of Latino girls which would constantly Rag and
00:27:57
attack me that right there tells you everything but wait saying I was drug free white
00:28:07
and proud of my blood and Heritage that screams a certain grouping of people who
00:28:15
believe that well and she's about to call them out yeah post went on to say being white is more than just being
00:28:21
aware of my skin but standing behind skin heads who are always around in spirit as well and having Pride for my
00:28:29
country yeah if you were wondering whether she's an [ __ ] uh ding ding ding there you go [ __ ] yeah who the
00:28:38
[ __ ] takes to a blog post to write that well and what's very interesting to me
00:28:44
is like you were you were so open about how racist you are and then you went and
00:28:51
did this and decided to take it a step further and it's like B babe their job is to investigate your past they're
00:29:00
going to find out that you're racist against this group of people y you don't think they're going to question y why
00:29:06
you might be emphasizing the race of and women women specifically because she specifically says this group of of girls
00:29:15
yep but it's definitely girls and then it happens to be two women of that particular group of people that which is
00:29:24
not likely that two women abduct another woman exactly it's like could it happen
00:29:30
totally nobody's saying it couldn't but we do have to put on our like logic hats
00:29:35
here and say this doesn't happen a lot at all like the the precedent for this is tiny tiny tiny minim of course if it
00:29:43
ended up being true then you go wow stick that in that precedent bucket and holy [ __ ] we'll reference that later but
00:29:48
it's like they are looking at this and going hm the fact that it's two women and she's already talked about girls
00:29:56
like a group of girls that were like being mean to her and that she didn't like and she's so proud of being white
00:30:02
and [ __ ] like come on come on saying you're proud to be white is crazy I I I just have to say that it it goes crazy I
00:30:11
just have to say that's a [ __ ] insane thing to say weird and I'll move on now okay it's
00:30:17
weird okay like just be proud to be a good human I'm proud to be a good have I ever been proud to be a white person
00:30:25
like what it's we it's it's weird I'm proud of my Irish heritage I'm proud of my Scottish Heritage I'm not proud to be
00:30:33
a white person that's the thing that's exactly how I feel I am super proud of having
00:30:40
Scottish Heritage and Irish heritage um I I'm proud of my 1.4% Italian Heritage I'm jealous of your Italian Heritage but
00:30:48
like to be like I am proud to be white like crazy I'm just proud that I have this very interesting Heritage that I
00:30:56
can look back on and discover and research and take you know recipes from and like you know like cool Legends and
00:31:03
folklore to each their own to bring like it's just a Str it's a strange thing to
00:31:09
like point at and be like I am proud I don't understand I do not understand also very weird saying that skin heads
00:31:18
her always around in spirit [ __ ] does that mean Sherry I don't understand the [ __ ] does that mean
00:31:24
Sherry I understand Sherry I hope not I'm glad I don't understand Sherry I don't ever want to understand her yeah
00:31:32
but anyway she said so she said all that and then in her post recovery interview
00:31:36
with the FBI she's continued to seem very focused on the ethnic aspects of her abductor appearance she told one
00:31:44
agent the smaller one had dark curly hair that's kind of short and so curly that if she didn't put product in there
00:31:50
it would probably be really frizzy wow wow what the [ __ ] is that going to mean to that arrested officer
00:31:58
out for a girl with frizzy hair who uses product so it's not I love that she's literally like it wasn't frizzy but I
00:32:05
bet if she didn't put product in it it would be a [ __ ] mess so look out for that girl like what are you talking
00:32:10
about okay [ __ ] like cool microaggression yeah she also described their clothing in racially coated and
00:32:16
overtly classes terms saying their quote brown shoes looked like guest knockoffs
00:32:20
wow and they wore quote those big hoop earrings and had thin almost drawn in eyebrows wow like you're an [ __ ] a
00:32:28
true you know how many things we could say to describe you Sher well that's I'm like bold really bold of you bold of you
00:32:37
I won't say [ __ ] because I'm not an [ __ ] but I'm thinking it but bold of you super duper bold that's all I'm
00:32:44
going to say anyway given the lack of evidence and the uh overtly racist comments that cherry had made in the
00:32:50
past some people suggested hey maybe this entire kidnapping was a hoax deliberately planned to demonize the the
00:32:57
Latino community in Northern California maybe and that's the that's the thing here it's like in situations where it's
00:33:05
like somebody has had like you know a mental health break and there's been like some thing that you're like okay
00:33:12
they perpetuated this idea or something like this and and they went too far like
00:33:16
we've had cases like that of course I can't point to one right now cuz I haven't had enough coffee jumbled but
00:33:20
you know where like you can sit there and you can look at it and go okay like I can at least have some sympathy for
00:33:26
what this person was going through at some point yeah this case you just I can't find sympathy in my heart one for
00:33:34
a racist and two I can't find sympathy in my heart for someone who wastes the resources of an entire Community yes and
00:33:43
traumatizes her own young family yes for what her family her sister I can't find
00:33:50
sympathy for that her husband so that's why we are like she's such an like she is in my opinion I think she's an
00:33:57
[ __ ] I think this entire thing to traumatize your family and loved ones like this and again to suck on the
00:34:04
resources of a community that needs them that needs these resources bigger fish to fry and to like to take money from
00:34:12
people and time from people and emotional like allowances from people who are like putting them into this
00:34:18
whole thing because they care right and just because they're try they're a good type- nit Community that's so [ __ ] it
00:34:24
is [ __ ] and I that's so like you're an emotional vampire shitty and like we'll get there but
00:34:30
spoiler alert if you somehow don't know this case she was like watching the news
00:34:34
she saw she watching her family on television I can't like that's how I could like even just think I could never
00:34:43
look at Drew on television like begging me to come home and be like and just feel like oh my God hilarious you want
00:34:49
to throw another hockey my face let's wait a couple of days like no and again if you somehow find sympathy for this
00:34:56
person in your heart that's like toally yeah you're a better person than you're prerogative and you're probably a better
00:35:01
person and like you know that's fine yeah but everybody's allowed to have their own opinion yeah I don't and and
00:35:07
I'm not going to and you're allowed to give your sympathy where you see fit yeah exactly I have sympathy for the
00:35:12
fact that like I'm sure she's very mentally ill like I absolutely have sympathy for like whatever is going on
00:35:17
in her mental that's [ __ ] yeah for sure but it's like when you talk about Insanity versus mental illness I don't
00:35:24
think she's insane I think she's mentally ill I still think she knew was doing was wrong and she's racist she she
00:35:30
literally did all this like partially to demonize an entire community of people exactly that's like not mental illness
00:35:36
that's just evil 100% evil the that's why I can't find the I got nothing I don't blame it I feel like the mental
00:35:44
illness comes into play with like the injuries like I think you have to be mentally ill to do what this woman did
00:35:50
something yeah but it doesn't take away the but no absolute evil [ __ ] that's going on around there I completely agree
00:35:57
with you completely agree with you I agree with you I agree with you so uh sorry like good point hell yeah
00:36:05
yeah support So in response to uh everybody saying this was a great hoax Keith papini told a reporter those
00:36:12
people should be ashamed of their malicious subhuman behavior we are not going to allow those people to take away
00:36:17
our spirit love or rejoice and our girl found alive in home where she belongs I understand why people want the story
00:36:23
pictures proof that this was not some sort of hoax plan to gain money some fabricated race war and it's like you
00:36:30
understand why he's saying that's disgusting of because it would be disgusting if wife that and he can't
00:36:36
fathom that she did that exactly of course why would you you would hope and pray that the woman that you married and
00:36:43
procreated with could not be that evil yeah exactly could not be capable of something like this and the Sheriff's
00:36:49
Office was similarly supportive of Sherry and the Pini family at that point saying we currently have no reason to
00:36:55
disbelieve Sher pini's story she was assaulted and had injuries which she's been treated for I think that was the
00:37:00
main thing that everybody held on to that you couldn't fathom somebody allowing themselves to be hurt that way
00:37:06
yeah or hurting themselves that way you're like there's no way branded broken nose hair cut off bruised Beyond
00:37:14
like if you see pictures of her she like she beat the [ __ ] out of herself and had
00:37:21
help beating herself it's crazy it's unbelievable she and and like she was wasn't eating so she lost weight like
00:37:29
when I say drop down to 87 lbs that you can't even picture that no you think of like your tiniest friend they are not
00:37:36
that tiny exactly that's crazy yeah so while those who question the legitimacy of Sherry's claims were far outnumbered
00:37:43
by her supporters skepticism did continue to grow in the days that followed particularly as information
00:37:49
remained vague and everyone involved was very tight lipped the investigation then
00:37:53
was further hampered by Keith papini who in an effort to dis Pro the Skeptics released details to the media Sheriff
00:38:01
basenko said I did not know he was going to release this until a short time before I did a med media interview I
00:38:07
think with some of the details he has provided it could affect the Integrity of the investigation oops which is not
00:38:13
great yeah because the sheriff had hoped to keep the few details that they did know about the abductors quiet until
00:38:18
they narrowed in on a suspect and they felt that ke's rush to defend his wife pretty much compromised their case if
00:38:26
luckily they didn't technically have a case yeah luckily it really wasn't looking for anybody but if they were it
00:38:33
could have [ __ ] it up yeah but you also understand why he wants to rush to defend of course you can see both sides
00:38:39
but despite the sheriff's attempts to quell the growing interest and debate over the legitim legitimacy of the
00:38:43
claims skepticism about Cherry's kidnapping just kept on growing yep in certain ways experts on the matter found
00:38:50
this to be entirely reasonable if not expected given the lack of details and the outrate just [ __ ] strangeness of
00:38:56
the being made for instance there aren't that many reasons why an adult would be
00:39:02
kidnapped and if any of them result in the abductor just letting the person go without having achieved some kind of
00:39:08
objective a ransom of some sort or something yeah like we don't really see a case where they just let you go to let
00:39:15
you go it happens but it's but like maybe once to find a handful of cases like that I don't even think there is a
00:39:23
handful that I know about at least um but also Sher had said that she was abducted by two women which is an
00:39:30
extremely like I said rare occurrence former FBI agent Mary Ellen ool said women don't commit these kinds of crimes
00:39:37
because it involves an element of predatory behavior but those same experts also caution the media to keep
00:39:43
an open mind about the case oul also told a reporter I've had some pretty bizarre but righteous cases where people
00:39:49
look at it and say that didn't happen even when it did and yeah absolutely happens all the time and Kenneth Ryan a
00:39:55
professor of criminology at fres State echoed OU's sentiment saying I know of no other cases like this but that does
00:40:02
not mean it's not legitimate exactly there's always precedent comes from somewhere yes so and speaking of
00:40:08
president in addition to the handful of experts who also cautioned people to remain open-minded several members of
00:40:14
the press were quick to point to the 2015 kidnapping of Denise huskins in Vallejo California there weren't many
00:40:21
similarities in the details of the cases but in the huskins case her kidnapper abducted her from from a home she shared
00:40:28
with her boyfriend held her captive for several days and then just released her yeah and that's shocking which was crazy
00:40:34
and initially the police concluded that the entire kidnapping was a hoax and they actually treated her and her man
00:40:40
terribly like it's rough to watch but they then had to retract their statement once evidence conclusively proved that
00:40:48
she had in fact been kidnapped and sexually assaulted by Matthew Muller a former lawyer suffering from a very
00:40:55
serious mental illness at that point holy [ __ ] really good um docu series on the case it's called American Nightmare
00:41:01
it's on Netflix jarring that's horrifying genuinely terrifying it will have you buying a security system
00:41:08
immediately do you know anything about that case yeah [ __ ] mhm so but so to point that that can happen you know
00:41:17
where the there's details that vary with Sherry having been abducted by two women
00:41:21
versus like a man who could overpower her well that's that's the other there's like differences here where it's like a
00:41:27
man abducted some a woman sexually assaulted her and let her go also the middle of the night yeah and it's like
00:41:34
but this is two women yeah and like then they just like beat the [ __ ] out of her
00:41:39
and let her go right like I don't know exactly you know now the other bizarre part of Sherry's story was the
00:41:45
surprising sum of money that had actually been offered up in exchange for her safe return even though the
00:41:50
kidnappers never asked for money mhm in addition to the original sum offered as a reward in the early days of the
00:41:55
investigation an Anonymous donor offered $100,000 as a reverse ransom for sher's
00:42:02
safe return damn the donor refused to identify themselves and Comm uh communicated only through an
00:42:07
intermediary uh who was Cameron gamble a local security contractor but like that
00:42:12
was that's crazy that's huge hug that a one Anonymous donor put up that much money $100,000 like that's a lot of
00:42:20
[ __ ] money family friend Lisa Jeter said I mean who offers five or six figures to find someone they've never
00:42:26
met yeah yeah uh yet she and others were still convinced of the donor's intentions being good and as he put it
00:42:34
quote the hands of God had been put on my heart to find pepini so that's just like a good ass person yeah Cameron
00:42:40
gamble even went on television to announce the offer of money to the kidnappers but as it turned out the
00:42:45
offer was unnecessary because Sherry soon showed up in Yolo County and no kidnappers ever contacted anyone to set
00:42:52
up any kind of money drop or anything like that yeah who in their right mind abducts a woman period but then abducts
00:43:01
a woman tortures her for a few days and then doesn't collect a reverse Ransom of
00:43:08
$1,000 yeah you would at least think that some kind of money drop would be set up or at least attempted you know
00:43:14
what I mean like I can understand if they were like freaked out cuz they were like this could clearly be a a sting to
00:43:19
get us but to not even not even have any any kind of communication about it I don't know not I I don't know that just
00:43:26
doesn't yeah happen in my mind I don't know so by the end of the year the public was eager for any details on the
00:43:33
case but both the family and law enforcement officials had nothing more to give in January 2017 Cherry sister
00:43:40
told a reporter we would just appreciate our time to heal and privacy and the Sheriff's Office also had little to say
00:43:46
to the press in the months that followed other than the standard response bosenko
00:43:50
insisted to the public that quote the investigation is still ongoing it's a priority case we're still being assisted
00:43:56
by the FBI in the case were waiting for some evidence to be processed by the California Department of
00:44:02
Justice now by the end of 2017 little had changed but skepticism surrounding the whole ordeal had grown somewhat
00:44:10
stronger we're getting more and more Skeptics on this in October 2017 the sheriff's department released a sketch
00:44:16
of the suspects based on Cherry's descriptions as well as a recording of Keith's call to 911 to report Cherry
00:44:22
missing and they hoped that these would generate some kind of new lead or evidence but l literally nothing came
00:44:28
from them cuz they weren't real people because they were not real people and the same was true of the surveillance
00:44:33
video released a month later showing Sher emerge from the woods along the side of I5 in Yolo County which also I
00:44:39
want to live in Yolo County and I just Yol County yeah that's hilarious in late December law enforcement officials
00:44:45
released a statement to the Press saying we're still reviewing stuff with the case and then obviously if appropriate
00:44:51
and if it's going to help identify the suspects then we'll release more information but we have no plans for
00:44:56
anything to be be released in the coming months so frustrating so everybody was like okay like I guess we'll just never
00:45:02
[ __ ] know what happened here because eventually one year passed to the next and there was never any additional
00:45:08
information never additional details released about the case and then the family just receded from the public
00:45:14
Spotlight but that which would make sense which yeah you would expect that to happen they would want their privacy
00:45:21
but that didn't stop the speculation and of course the online arguments about the
00:45:25
case with many people now more convinced than ever that the kidnapping had been a
00:45:29
hoax cuz when you're not finding the people and there's no leads whatsoever none like obv motive obviously cases go
00:45:37
cold like of course that kind of thing but there's no motive you can't find any suspects where's the evidence there no
00:45:45
you got that that racist connection like yeah that's the thing something's wrong
00:45:50
here and that was sitting heavy with investigators they were like they really clung on to that rightfully so if you're
00:45:55
not finding these people sounds like they're made up and that's when you go back to that blog post and
00:46:01
you start digging for some more [ __ ] so while supporters and Skeptics sparred with one another on social media because
00:46:07
that is the way of life the Sheriff's Office continued investigating the case but after repeatedly coming up empty
00:46:13
they actually passed the case to the FBI in early 2020 by that time Sherry Pini had received more than $30,000 in aid
00:46:22
from the California victims Compensation Board damn the fact that this this [ __ ] collected and that wasn't the
00:46:30
only amount of money that she received she got money from gofundmes and other like you know charity organizations but
00:46:36
this one from the victims Compensation Board $30,000 and you just accept that and
00:46:42
spend it yep thinking you're entitled to it this is the same person that sat and
00:46:47
watched her family beg for her safe return and still sat there and let it all go do you have a conscience I think
00:46:54
some people just don't that's the thing I'm like there's something wrong there that you don't have any kind like that
00:46:59
you were able to perpetuate this for so long yeah so fortunately with their Superior resources and larger reach the
00:47:07
FBI was able to achieve what the Shasta County Sheriff's Office had and they managed to get to the truth and that's
00:47:13
why we're sitting here today talking about this FB [ __ ] eye that's why we're calling Sher an [ __ ] don't
00:47:18
worry if you don't know the case you will soon find out what an [ __ ] she is I mean already there was some pieces
00:47:24
of uh evidence we've given you that that be showing you that yeah exactly but but
00:47:29
even more of an ass go CRA in the absence of any new evidence FBI agents turned to sher's past and they
00:47:36
discovered that she wasn't always the super mom she was described as in the wake of her Disappearance in an
00:47:41
interview with her first husband she'd been married before uh she married him in 2006 so she could quote qualify for
00:47:48
health insurance they learned that cherry had a long history of lying and fabricating stories and many referred to
00:47:56
her as being quote unquote attention hungry ah there it is the ex-husband also told investigators that Sherry had
00:48:03
quote fabricated stories about being the victim of abuse according to another friend from her past Sherry was quote
00:48:10
good at creating different realities for people so that they would see what she wanted them to see which got her really
00:48:15
good attention o and while the kidnapping case might have seemed like a pretty extreme length to go to in order
00:48:22
to get some kind of attention many people who knew Sher and knew her especially when she was younger wouldn't
00:48:28
have been surprised to learn that she had gone that far which is unb if if people are saying they wouldn't be
00:48:35
surprised if you would go this far whoa that like who when you think of every like how far she truly went and people
00:48:43
she branded her she was branded for people to be like be like yeah she probably could have done it's like whoa
00:48:49
my God you have a history my friend she sure does in 2003 she ran away from home
00:48:55
and filed a police report falsely accusing her own parents of physical abuse yeah so this is a it was
00:49:00
determined this is a pathology here MH and she had also said that past boyfs were violent with her when like they
00:49:07
were not there was evidence to prove that they were not she she lied about being a victim of abuse many many times
00:49:15
which is [ __ ] up which is [ __ ] up so the deeper agent dug into Sherry's history the more they started to
00:49:20
question just how happy this supposed super Mama really was according to phone records she had been keeping in regular
00:49:27
contact with her ex-boyfriend Shawn Ray as recently as 2015 and they frequently used phone cards and burner phones to
00:49:35
communicate that's not as [ __ ] sketchy as [ __ ] it was through an interview with
00:49:40
race that the real story of Sherry's quote unquote kidnapping finally came into Focus this shows you you don't
00:49:49
know any like damn you don't know anybody like the whole Community saw her as the super mom happy wife everything
00:49:58
yeah I'm tell and in the age of social media you speciic don't know anyone remember that you don't remember that
00:50:09
you are seeing a curated version of everyone you're seeing a character 100% And that's I've seen so many instances
00:50:16
of that recently on social media where like things are happening and like people find these slay are like oh this
00:50:21
person is not what I thought they were yeah and it's like yeah you don't know anyone no if you don't know people
00:50:26
personally and deeply you don't know and the sooner you realize that and like are
00:50:31
happy with that boundary being there the better this will all be because I think
00:50:35
people are putting way too much into social media I think so definitely that's my little soap box I'll get off
00:50:41
it now but according to Ray Sherry called him on November 2nd 2016 and asked him if he could come pick her up
00:50:47
and if she could stay with him for a while in a statement to the FBI ry's cousin confirmed that he had seen Cherry
00:50:53
at at Ray's apartment on at least two occasions race told agents uh Sherry said that quote her husband was beating
00:51:00
and raping her and she was trying to escape and that she had filed police reports but the police were not doing
00:51:06
anything to stop her husband's abuse which sounds horrific so of course he was like yeah you can come stay with me
00:51:12
now while she was there staying with him she concocted that fake kidnapping hoax
00:51:16
in order to avoid having to explain where she had been and the entire time she was there she quote harmed herself
00:51:23
to support her false claims wow while she was there she like stopped eating like she ate very minimally and he was
00:51:30
like oh like can I make you can I make you anything didn't she have like a banana she would yeah she would
00:51:35
literally just have like a banana she he uh she asked him to like hit a hockey puck off her face at one point B a
00:51:42
hockey puck off her leg it literally that's exactly how they said it in the documentary Bank a hockey puck off her
00:51:48
leg and this guy's just like okay and I think the way they broke her nose was I think a hockey stick was involved I
00:51:54
think you're right yeah and like a closet door or something like that there was yeah I mean wild sh talk about Folly
00:52:00
ad do wild damn yeah so after about three weeks of just staying there doing all that wild [ __ ] Ray had a friend rent
00:52:10
a car for him and he drove Sherry out to that rural spot on I5 where she was found on the morning of November 24th
00:52:17
2016 a check of the rental cars odometer log confirmed that the vehicle had traveled the distance between Rey's
00:52:24
apartment and the drop off spot and YOLO County it's those little things when it
00:52:29
comes down to these little things I'm always like damn damn forensics and his story also explained the unidentified
00:52:36
DNA on Cherry's clothes when she reappeared which was tested and later confirmed to belonged to Sea wow so she
00:52:45
was just having a grand old time so she to be clear she bullshitted this entire thing the entire thing to hang out with
00:52:56
a boyfriend yep an ex-boyfriend an ex-boyfriend yep remember she has two young children literally two little like
00:53:05
young young babes like teeny tiny babes left them at daycare unable no I can't imagine and then
00:53:15
watched on TV as her husband cried and begged for her safe return her parents parents her sister her friends everybody
00:53:22
that loved her watch the community go to all these links watch the cops talk about how much resources they were
00:53:27
putting into it watch that dollar amount go up and up and up of people donating out of the goodness of their hearts and
00:53:33
somehow like fed off of that like it wasn't like oh [ __ ] what have I done but what you should take from this is not
00:53:40
wow people are the biggest [ __ ] in the entire world no one person is the biggest [ __ ] in the entire world but
00:53:46
look at the other side of it an entire [ __ ] community of people showed everybody what humanity is like that's
00:53:55
the thing to take from this is and they all said we do it again yeah like we thought someone was missing we thought
00:54:00
one of our own was missing our community that's our community it's like that take
00:54:04
that away from it that like most people in the world are going to do that yes like these are the ones that you just
00:54:10
sus out and you say [ __ ] off and you and you sit there and you wonder how people
00:54:15
are even capable of existing yeah like Sherry Pini like the the toxic waist stump that must be her soul yeah like
00:54:22
talk about A trashed Soul like it's she is a trashed Soul she scares me what scares me is I also feel like I like
00:54:31
know people like her yeah and she's not happy nobody who does this kind of [ __ ]
00:54:35
as a happy person no not at all like nobody who's an [ __ ] being a dick to other people and like taking up other
00:54:41
people's time like ruining people's days doing whatever is a happy person they're
00:54:47
always miserable so in August 2020 agents interviewed Cherry again and laid out the evidence that they discovered
00:54:52
and warned her at the top of the interview that it was a crime time to lie to the FBI so they're like here's
00:54:58
your time however Sher quote did not retract her kidnapping story and in and instead continued to make false
00:55:05
statements about her purported abductors and denied her ex-boyfriend's involvement they sat there and they said
00:55:11
we tested the maale DNA that they found on you it's Sha's and she sat there and acted shocked and said Shawn would never
00:55:17
do that to me it can't be him and like literally started to cry like she was just having a revelation about like oh
00:55:23
my God it couldn't have been him no no way no meanwhile she had been staying with him for weeks she literally sits
00:55:29
talking to him on Burner phones you can wa you guys got to go watch the interviews because they're so deeply
00:55:33
disturbing and I feel so bad because her husband is with her when they confront her and if anybody ever thought that he
00:55:40
was involved in it seeing his reaction when they tell him when they tell Sher coming out hello he is blindsighted I
00:55:49
feel so bad for that guy it really is sad but unfortunate oh and then another thing and if you watch the documentary
00:55:55
on Hulu you'll see it she had uh perfectly described where she was being contained and it was this very
00:56:02
specific closet that she kept talking about and when they went to her boyfriend's her ex-boyfriend's house he
00:56:09
had that exact closet and they were like nobody else would have had the closet that she it was like a very specifically
00:56:15
made like there was certain like pipes and wires and stuff that went certain places and they were like what are the
00:56:21
[ __ ] odds that that's the exact closet system the in the fact that she described his Clos
00:56:27
didn't even something you lied about everything else why are you giving the exact closet like I'm glad that you did
00:56:32
it got us to hear and also she and this is the scary thing about Cherry Pini she
00:56:37
sat there in that interview room when they said we ran the DNA testing and it matches your ex-boyfriend Shawn Ray's
00:56:44
and she said no no no it can't be him you have you have to check it again there's no way it could be him y she
00:56:50
thought that she could get the upper hand there and convince them otherwise on DNA she wanted them to rerun that's
00:56:57
like saying can you crunch those numbers again no it's DNA like if it's hitting on a person that's involved it's the
00:57:05
person we didn't crunch the numbers wrong like it's a [ __ ] like what this is forensics [ __ ] this is DNA hello
00:57:13
this is deoxy ribo nucleic acid you're not going to get out of here what the [ __ ] like what but just the fact that
00:57:19
she thought she that diabolical that she was like let me give this a show cuz she's gone her whole life manipulating
00:57:26
and I think she was like well this is my magnumopus and I can definitely keep this going I just have to try harder and
00:57:32
it's like no babe no babe DNA does not lie you cannot manipulate DNA it's just not going to happen no and we got the
00:57:41
[ __ ] odometer telling us the exact distance the odometer the closet the they even found and if again if you
00:57:48
watch the documentary you'll find this out she had saved to her Pinterest board wood like wood burning tools oh my God
00:57:56
yes you're right which she then used to Brand herself with the word Exodus she had saved those to her [ __ ] Pinterest
00:58:03
board this this [ __ ] pinterested her own kidnapping hoax literally that's a level of diabolical and also just
00:58:13
completely like dulu that you can't even comprehend and the malice a [ __ ] for there to plan your own branding the most
00:58:23
hello yeah hello is right hello oh actually goodbye is right goodbye Sherry goodbye but not goodbye yet so
00:58:30
unfortunately the onset of the covid-19 pandemic really really hampered agent's ability to aggressively pursue this case
00:58:37
Rona really [ __ ] us yeah but don't worry we got there and early March 2022 they were able to get a warrant for
00:58:44
sher's arrest based on the evidence and statements from her boyfriend Shawn Ray there her ex-boyfriend thank goodness in
00:58:51
addition to being charged with lying to the FBI Sherry was also charged with mail fraud stemming from her receipt of
00:58:59
more than $30,000 in Victim Assistance money from State agencies which carried a combined sentence of up to 25 years in
00:59:07
prison if she were to be convicted damn she should have got that yep on March 3rd 2022 Sacramento FBI agents were
00:59:15
staked outside of sher's neighborhood hoping that they'd be able to stop her when she drove like maybe going on some
00:59:21
kind of errand without the kids they were really hoping to not get her in front of the kids were trying to avoid
00:59:27
that and they thought that they had her when she peeled out of the neighborhood and she started toward downtown reading
00:59:33
but then they realized that the kids were with her and they were headed to some kind of music class like she was
00:59:37
dropping them off so once they were sure that they they like had to redo their plan really quickly so once they were
00:59:44
sure that Sherry was inside the building they sent an agent in to tell her that somebody had hit her car outside oh yeah
00:59:50
hoping they could get her outside without alerting the kids so she like lost her [ __ ] and ran out and
00:59:58
unfortunately when she ran out her kids followed her because she had made such a
01:00:02
scene she like screamed about it so they they witnessed the arrest take place which is really sad she screamed no and
01:00:10
actually tried to run away from the agents which I was like where did you think you were
01:00:15
going one thing Sher has it's self-confidence she believes in herself in audacity in abundance like where are
01:00:23
you going where you going where you going hide in the piano the whole world knows who you like where you going
01:00:28
literally the entire world luckily she was quickly subdued and handcuffed before being put in the back of the
01:00:33
agent's car and luckily also the kids piano teacher stayed with them and called Keith to let them know let him
01:00:39
know what was going on she was like Hey you have to come get the kids they got Cherry a few days later the family re
01:00:46
released a statement expressing outrage over the way in which the arrest was handled saying we love Sherry and are
01:00:51
appalled by the way in which law enforcement ambushed her on Thursday after afternoon in a dramatic
01:00:56
unnecessary manner in front of her children I can understand I can too that's their children you know I mean
01:01:03
that's that family's babes I would be really upset if any kid that I love winess absolutely so I can fully
01:01:10
understand that and they also didn't know that there was a completely different plan and that it just didn't
01:01:14
work out so I'm sure thinking they just did this to do it and I'm sure knowing that like retroactively they're probably
01:01:21
thankful that at least they tried to not involve the children I can totally understand why they were same pissed
01:01:26
100% yeah like outside of the kids music class that sucks yeah that really does suck but the news of sher's arrest
01:01:32
shocked friends and family and those around the country who were following the story but not everyone was surprised
01:01:38
by by the arrest a lot of people were shocked but most there there was a large group of people that were like reading
01:01:45
local Tim Scarboro said there was so much that questioned the validity of her story I didn't believe it for a moment
01:01:51
good for you Tim he had actually covered Cherry's story on his blog but in the week of in the wake of her mysterious
01:01:57
return he started to get suspicious of the inconsistencies and the various aspects that didn't make sense and his
01:02:03
public skepticism actually he got a considerable backlash from people to the extent that he received like threats of
01:02:10
violence to person cuz it's it's hard it's like you're publicly being suspicious of something
01:02:17
that could go the other way yeah and it's like that can be a obviously that would be awful if you were saying like
01:02:24
this is a hoax and then it turns out it's not and they catch the people and you know she went through this whole
01:02:28
thing right exactly that's [ __ ] up it's never okay to threaten violence against someone though that's the thing
01:02:33
you can disagree with someone people who do that disagree with normalize disagreements without saying I'm going
01:02:40
to hurt you physically it's cool it's cool if you don't agree it's fine it's the way of the world stop threatening
01:02:46
everyone my God people are just we different day age everybody's just so angry we got to calm down everybody is
01:02:55
real angry calm down you need to calm down what did she say after that yeah it's Taylor Swift oh yeah yeah you're
01:03:02
being too loud yes damn 7 a.m. Elena loves to say damn it's 7 a.m. it's true the swifties are going
01:03:14
crazy right now it's I I love that song it's a great song I think it's funny so other community members were outraged by
01:03:20
the racist undertones of Sherry's story um Arelli Gutierrez a business consultant who works that's a pretty
01:03:26
name Gorge relli is really pretty I actually I looked it up I think it means something means something but it means
01:03:34
something pretty I was pretty sure you know there while you look it up there was this uh Ash and I I remember true
01:03:40
life on MTV it was like where it's at I miss life all the there was that um respect my sect yes thing or no it was
01:03:47
I'm a witch that's what it was it was like I'm a witch or respect my SEC one of those yeah and it was it had that
01:03:53
vampire cult that was in the other one it again I think they were in at least two I think you're right and uh cuz I
01:04:00
think it was like I'm a vampire or something true life I'm a vampire or something yeah and there was a girl
01:04:05
named arel Araceli I think it was who was a witch but also was like a vampire as well oh you're right I remember that
01:04:13
episode she seemed like such a like such a sweet human I just like putting it up
01:04:18
I remember hearing her name and I was like oh that's a beautiful name it's beautiful and it has a beautiful meaning
01:04:23
it means altar of the sky Al of I love that and it comes from the Latin uh Latin words ARA meaning Altar and C
01:04:32
meaning Sky oh that's beautiful it just like Fe every as soon as you hear it it's just like o feels very like
01:04:37
Whimsical it does it's certain names and like words just like when they come out
01:04:42
you feel like they like they twinkle when they come out that's crazy cuz I can see it I'm like I just feel it
01:04:49
twinkling she like wiggled her fingers and then I said twinkle at the same time that was awesome
01:04:56
your name twinkles your name twinkles and me and Elena share a brain cell about it that was wild that was crazy
01:05:01
that's been happening a lot lately yeah that go crazy no I'm just kidding don't go away uh but relli Gutierrez she was a
01:05:08
business consultant and she works with the Latino community in Northern California and she said saying these two
01:05:13
Hispanic women kidnapped her and all the lies that came out of the story it's just too much it absolutely is I agree
01:05:19
arisi and you think of like there is a huge latino population inali you probably you [ __ ] up their businesses
01:05:25
as well oh my God you put out this [ __ ] and now all these people are probably being victimized because of your racist
01:05:31
lies they absolutely were there was like an uptick in threats and violence against the Latino commity like and
01:05:37
these like Latino run businesses these women Latino loves run businesses they're they're the ones suffering from
01:05:44
for your [ __ ] and that's why she wanted to do it oh it makes me so mad she literally like that was part of it
01:05:49
it was so far-reaching the [ __ ] that she committed it really was and given the timeline and the tone around the
01:05:55
country Gutierrez told reporters the Pini story just gave a lot of people reason to believe in Trump's rhetoric it
01:06:01
really sewed Division and it's like nobody should be sewing division no especially at that time like come on
01:06:07
like it's just Unity my friends Unity exactly we're all people let's just try to get it together let's just try to do
01:06:14
the best we can and don't [ __ ] up other people's businesses don't [ __ ] up other
01:06:17
people people's businesses RAC like support small businesses lift up communities that are like you know
01:06:25
oppressed like come on yeah come on it's so much easier to do that and how much we've seen in history what happens when
01:06:32
you're shitty to marginalized communities when you so Discord like why do we just continue to do it and it's
01:06:39
also just kind of like I know we're just we're like guys stop being dicks I feel
01:06:42
like people who listen to this show are beautiful souls so they're like I'm not being a dick yeah tell everybody that
01:06:49
that's being a dick don't like you're trashing your own soul by doing that you're trashing it it's true it's a
01:06:54
waste dump trash your own soul you want to twinkle like aisi yeah you got to bring this soul to your next lifetime
01:07:01
it's got to be like clean and [ __ ] it's like the older you get the more you realize that it's just like damn I've
01:07:06
said that to everybody needs to chill I'm like you know approaching the old age of 30 and I'm I I'm realizing time
01:07:13
is limited no it's true and I'm not trying to do [ __ ] [ __ ] with the time that I have here and you get you know
01:07:19
you get more with honey yes it's true exactly honey is a cureo I love honey and it tastes good and she laugh last
01:07:25
like so long there you go anyways honey we're really getting a we're getting a little off topic here morbid in the
01:07:31
morning morid in the morning and I haven't had any coffee according to the FBI affidavit
01:07:37
Sherry's emphasis on her supposed kidnappers ethnicity led to quote years of tips from reading and the surrounding
01:07:44
communities about suspicious looking Hispanic women and that's [ __ ] tragic yeah like think of all the people that
01:07:50
were just stereotyped and and like harassed yeah and turned into a villain yeah when they're not other members of
01:07:59
the community were simply just [ __ ] angry that they'd been duped into expending an enormous number of
01:08:05
resources on a woman who had never been in any real danger family friend Jane Atkins said she had us essentially on a
01:08:12
Witch Hunt there were numerous posts on local Social Media Group pages of sightings of women who looked like the
01:08:18
suspects or similar vehicle descriptions had a lot of women on edge and that's the thing it's like so she really didn't
01:08:25
care because people get Wily in these situations and it's like she didn't give a [ __ ] if these if innocent women that
01:08:33
happen to match that description or God forbid drove a similar car yeah like people can go vigilante on people like
01:08:40
it's happened it's like obviously you don't want it to happen but it's like but people do it and especially when
01:08:45
there's like really big uproar and something like you're being portrayed as this like blonde mom Super Mom housewife
01:08:53
that like just got snatched up by these evil and it's like so people are going to go
01:08:58
crazy and it's like and you just didn't care if innocent women were attacked on your behalf well because she's a racist
01:09:07
like she just doesn't care she part of her wanted that to happen that's that's why she went out here and saiding that
01:09:14
two Hispanic women did this to her that's really mindboggling to me that's [ __ ] and it's like you said she
01:09:19
specifically said women women because she had claimed she had had a problem with girls in the past
01:09:26
all I'm thinking CU she was like because I was drug free and proud to be white like I would for being proud to be white
01:09:32
but also like cuz you were drug I'm I'm not like I have never witnessed an an act of bullying where some girls are
01:09:41
angry because some girl is drug free and white well you know what that was that was another that was her putting another
01:09:46
stereotype like they were drug addicts that's what it is like she's putting all the all the racist rhetoric into one
01:09:53
little little sentence tiny blog post me I'm drug free but they couldn't be nobody gets bullied for being drug [ __ ]
01:10:01
off nobody gave a [ __ ] about you are you [ __ ] kidding me others in Reading echoed the sentiment reading uh resident
01:10:08
Aaron fredman told a reporter I was worried about her and her kids it seemed like such a kick in the teeth of a
01:10:13
community that didn't deserve to be treated like that she stabbed our community in the back with every step
01:10:18
she took yes boom I think I put it perfectly yeah but unfortunately if anybody was waiting for uh any kind of
01:10:25
reasonable explanation for sher's behavior and lies they were sorely disappointed in a statement to the Press
01:10:31
Sherry's lawyer William Port NOA said his client had a quote complicated mental health situation I'll say but one
01:10:38
that has to be confronted and dealt with and that includes admission and acceptance and Punishment as far as why
01:10:44
she did what she did portn NOA did not have that answer he said honestly I don't know if anybody does I don't know
01:10:50
if she even she knows and honestly whatever explanation she would give would not I don't hear it anyway no it
01:10:56
justone of it is is valid excuses for yeah piss poor Behavior the only excuse you you would have is I am devoid of
01:11:05
humanity literally that would literally be the only explanation that I'd be like
01:11:08
thank you I'd rather hear that thank you for telling me that cuz like that's really it I'm devoid of anything good
01:11:14
sorry sorry for that like that would be the only I'd be like okay that's full ownership right there yeah well she
01:11:19
didn't do that whether she could explain herself or not Sherry knew that there was no point in carrying on her protest
01:11:25
still she was like no this really happened no but in early April 2022 she did agree to plead guilty and she
01:11:32
provided a documented confession in exchange for a reduced sentence which I wish was never on the table the fact
01:11:38
that she wouldn't with confronted with all that evidence she's still still wouldn't admit it until she got
01:11:44
something out of it still wow yeah g and a statement released through her attorney she said I am deeply ashamed of
01:11:51
myself for my behavior and so sorry for the pain I've caused my family friends and all the good people who needlessly
01:11:57
suffered because of my story and those who worked so hard to try to help me I will work the rest of my life to make
01:12:02
amends for what I have done good I hope you do you know what I didn't he in there a direct apology to the Latino
01:12:08
Community you literally victimized them I'm sorry to Hispanic women for completely demonizing you she said I'm
01:12:15
sorry to my family my friends and good people yeah who the [ __ ] are you to determine who's a good person how about
01:12:21
you say sorry to the community that you completely victimize for years years years like what the [ __ ] is wrong
01:12:27
with you yep but per her agreement with the prosecutor's office Sher Pini was sentenced to remember she was facing 25
01:12:35
years and I remember watching this and being like are you [ __ ] kidding me she was sentenced to 18 months in prison
01:12:41
to me that is a travesty it is a travesty it really is and it that was to be followed by a 36-month period of
01:12:48
supervised probation and in order to pay back the $39,900 in restitution wow that's what she
01:12:57
received wow in total from like gofundmes and victims compensation boards while she was incarcerated Keith
01:13:06
papini filed for a divorce and the court granted him full custody of their children there is a very interesting
01:13:13
admission that Keith makes about what Cherry may have may or may not have done with their children yeah watch the
01:13:20
documentary I don't want to get too much into it in here because it's just a it's
01:13:24
a detail that I NE or as far as we know but it's interesting but it's what he says so and I'm happy that he has full
01:13:31
custody but definitely watch the perfect wife uh on Hulu but in August of 2023 Sherry was released from prison and she
01:13:38
transitioned to a halfway house as of March of 2024 she has yet to pay any of her fine which with penalties is now
01:13:47
nearly $350,000 what an [ __ ] I love that she's just an [ __ ] from start to finish still not even paying her [ __ ]
01:13:56
retribution yep or restitution whatever it is like she says I'm going to work the rest of my life to make amends and
01:14:02
it's like and all you can say is like yeah I hope you do I do hope you do I hope you work until your last breath to
01:14:09
make amends I hope that doesn't look like you are not you're immediately getting out and not not paying back any
01:14:15
of the money it's [ __ ] up because it's like now you look back on it and you're
01:14:18
like what the [ __ ] like what an [ __ ] that's insane what a crazy story and it's like while this was all going on
01:14:24
the pain and suffering and grief and stress that she caused for several parts of her life and Trauma and communities
01:14:32
like trauma for her family so real and it's like you look back on it now and can at least and can be like wow that
01:14:38
was [ __ ] up but during it it's like damn like the trauma you inflicted it's [ __ ] in about 40 different directions
01:14:45
is and especially especially on your kids that's the thing and it's like lady if you wanted to
01:14:54
disappear write a note disappear and then he can file for divorce he can gain custody of the kids if you wanted to you
01:15:03
want to leave your whole life behind go right ahead it's just the the dulu that she thought she was going to just have
01:15:11
the perfect like Gone Girl it had the perfect disappearance and never get caught and I just don't know how she
01:15:16
returned and looked into her kid's eyes every day well why' you come back oh because she had to come back she had get
01:15:23
doed on and all of the you had like how you didn't think that was going to come out like it's just well and they they
01:15:31
were having trouble in their marriage definitely like obviously she was still talking to her ex-boyfriend they weren't
01:15:36
happy and I think she saw this as her because Keith even says it in the documentary she would bring it up daily
01:15:43
like everything her ordeal that she had gone through and she would make him feel
01:15:47
bad that he didn't save her oh yeah like she would literally be like you didn't save me you and I have to live with that
01:15:53
I have to live with the fact that you didn't find me so it made it so like she had the upper hand in the
01:15:58
marriage wa like you're the [ __ ] meter is it broke the psychological torment because the fact she she did all
01:16:07
the things that we just talked about and then had the [ __ ] audacity to look at
01:16:12
her husband who she tortured psychologically for weeks yep and say well I have to live with the fact that
01:16:19
you didn't find me because you didn't want to be found like holy [ __ ] you made
01:16:23
you went to great lengthly like damn meanwhile you watched him beg for your return search do all the things
01:16:33
like it still wasn't enough while taking care of your children and it still wasn't enough and still you're going to
01:16:37
make him feel like the [ __ ] yep you are the ultimate [ __ ] and I think it was all so that she could come back and
01:16:44
have him do upon her and like like I think she thought he was going to realize what he lost yeah it didn't
01:16:51
quite work out that way is just the case is madic Ming I'm glad they caught her yeah
01:16:58
because if it was still hanging out in the air like is it a hoax is it not a hoax that would be maddening I found
01:17:04
another um I can't think of the name of the case right now but I found another hoax that I want to cover yeah I find
01:17:10
them fascinating they are fascinating I find them disgusting and horrific but I find them fascinating INF that somebody
01:17:16
can go to those lengths and just have no not a care in the world for what they're
01:17:21
doing everybody that's that's the real thing that gets you is they don't care how it's affecting
01:17:27
everyone that they supposedly claim to care about that is void of all empathy of all empathy to take it so far it's
01:17:35
crazy but yeah crazy case I definitely want to cover some more like these I I do like cases where people don't die
01:17:42
like you know yeah that's nice that's pretty nice it's a nice break to have I mean it's horrifying but still
01:17:47
horrifying but in a completely different way yeah I think I'm probably going to take you back to a a dark place yeah
01:17:55
that's what you're here for place I should say oh what do you what do you have cooking in the kitchen I guess
01:18:00
we'll have to see we'll wait and find out that was so ominous I tried Alita still is so thick in spooky season
01:18:06
spooky season for life I love it I'm like merry Christmas happy Hanukkah everyone I'm like still spooky so spooky
01:18:13
well to all our spooky listeners out there and to all our November 1st girlies and guys and these and thems we
01:18:20
hope you have a wonderful day and we hope you keep listening and we hope you keep but not so weird that you go and
01:18:29
you develop an entire hoax kidnapping story of just be an [ __ ] don't do that I talked so much I don't know go
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listen to listener Tales cuz there's a video yeah maybe there will be another one bye
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