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hey weirdos I'm Elina I'm Ash and this is [Music] morbid W I don't know it's morning morbid in
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the morning guys I'm so tired I stayed up all night last night Elena and Deb Deb came over and we were watching that
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Sherry Pini documentary I know it was a good one it was good and then you guys left before the last episode finished
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and I said [ __ ] this I'm finishing it it was too late so I finished that and then
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I was exhausted so or no then I wasn't exhausted I was still awake so I watched life after lock up you really went for
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it I had a night watch some crazy ass television you would think that I'd have crazy dreams
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but I don't remember any of them but I didn't go to bed until like 2:30 and then I had to wake up so early and now
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I'm just like why did I do that I you know I I have been like um so I haven't been watching a lot of True Crime the
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last really couple of years to be honest yeah I kind of like I leave it here and
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it's I I got burnt out from it a little bit so in order to not be burnt out for it for my job I don't consume it outside
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of my job yeah and so which has been fine and kind of great because I'm not as burnt out but then last night I was
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like oh I do want to watch this one it's an interesting case and watching that one I was like a yeah like these are the
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kind of ones that are very interesting the ones like where I think though maybe I was just like too burnt out on like
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murders and death you know what I mean like cuz I was also working in like the death industry so it was just a lot but
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things like this which is also the Sher B case is also tragic on a totally different level it's but boggling it's
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more mindboggling and just like what the it's just [ __ ] it's dork sided it is dork sided given Sinister Vibe holy [ __ ]
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and just the way like she fooled everyone in the lengths she went she was just posted up at her ex's house
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the entire time just like running into ho hockey pucks off of her like what the [ __ ] and like literally like running
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into hockey sticks and like the way that they were like one of the ways that they
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were able to catch that she you know had like made the entire thing up you know how she was like literally branded yeah
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she had a like a Pinterest board with all these like like wood burning tools on it shut the [ __ ] up yeah cuz cuz I
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didn't get to watch the last episode you have to watch the last episode cuz it's
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it's how they started kind of like unraveling everything and obviously like the DNA was like the biggest thing but
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then they found like these little things just cuz like they were like we need to
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build this case as much as we can and that I was like you just s you pinned those like you just pinned how to do
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this knowing you were going to Brand yourself like what and then just like you're just like you decided to bring
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your racism into it as well like what the [ __ ] that and also that whole thing blew my goddamn mind well
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because there's like obviously there's the racism in the fact that she was like oh it was two Hispanic women like and
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there were never two Hispanic women ever for her ex like Hispanic people within that within that area where the what
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they faced after she came out and said that is I mean and she didn't give a [ __ ] oh no wasn't her problem because
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then they expose her in this documentary for a whole bunch of other racist views
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I was like girl you're a trash human truly I feel bad for the kids I do too it seems like the dad is like pretty
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chill and like he has like full custody of them and I feel bad I feel bad for the whole yeah I mean he had anybody
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that was involved in this and believed that it was true and dealt with the grief that they felt for those three
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weeks thinking she was gone like her sister her family everybody yeah her best friend he also just looked she also
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just looked at him one day and she was like mad at him about like something and she looked at him and she goes I have to
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deal with the fact that you never found me and like put it on what the [ __ ] basically I think a lot of what she did
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was like a like she sat there and watched as the nation searched for her and like watched her loved ones on like
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film like crying sobbing pleading with her fake ass kidnappers yeah knowing her kids have no idea where their mom is and
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it's traumatized them daily and it was literally the holiday season yeah she doesn't give a [ __ ] was like over
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Thanksgiving I was like what the [ __ ] it's about her but yeah and then she just like she literally sat there and
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watched the entire thing unfold and then when she decided to go back she he said
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she brought it up every single day and then one day she got pissed at him and said that and he was like like you were
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I did the best I could also you weren't willing to be found also you weren't actually missing yeah like you it wasn't
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like this was a big exciting game of hide and seek and I and I lost it's like so God
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girl though yeah and it's like it's so God girl it's and it's also just the resources MH that were expended upon
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this case and it's like people who would you know were in trouble and needed help
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but resources were being put to this case even if it was just like a minute of a delay because of what was going on
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still a delay the money the these people's time these people's you know money time emotions like being away like
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these all of that all the investigators all the like paramedics all the people in the helicopters spending time away
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from their families right because this [ __ ] decided to hold up at her ex-boyfriend's house and make up a a
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racist story yeah wild to get attention and not only that like that in and of itself is all insane like and the fact
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that that happened is so I'm like how you do that and just like not think about every everybody that you're
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affecting then she there was like $30,000 I think it was raised for her for like like through like Victim
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Advocacy work and like that kind of thing just good people yeah just like people raising money to help her with
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like hospital bills and stuff like that she like stole $330,000 from everybody it doesn't give
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a [ __ ] it's like what the [ __ ] and then she also the girl that went missing like
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I think it was like a few years years before Sherry like staged her own abduction um Tara Smith they like went
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to high school at the same time and people were like drawing a lot of parallels cuz they're like both blonde
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women they look a lot alike like that's weird yeah she went to Tara's family and
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sat down with them and like talk to them about like everything that she had quote
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unquote gone through that's the deepest kind of psychopath I've ever heard like sat there in front of a girl who
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actually went missing and was never found in front of her family claiming that you you know what the experience
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you know what she's experiencing or that she did experience and like her husband
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actually thought that he could like somewhat relate to these people because like he had gone through he had thought
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he had gone through a similar experience and very much like kind of did in a way
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yeah and he was he was in an interview on the documentary and he was like I can't believe she knew and put him in
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that position and literally put me in this position to go stand and like we were in those people's home yeah like I
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feel like an idiot now yeah [ __ ] wild you guys it's the perfect wife on Hulu it's and this isn't even an ad it's such
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a good it's not even an ad we just happen to watch it it's like a three-part um three episode documentary
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it was so so just so [ __ ] chilling so Bleak mindboggling and I feel bad for those kids because like those kids are
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going to grow up mhm knowing that their mom is Sher [ __ ] Pini it's like that's that sucks cuz they didn't ask
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for that they didn't ask for you to be a blazing [ __ ] they went through things
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of their own that you should definitely watch the documentary it's awful allegedly but
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definitely watch the documentary because it isoo uh it was a wild one for it was a
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wild one to jump into after a while so highly recommend it but now that we've gotten through that uh we're gonna
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continue with part two of Peter Manuel True Crime all the time except outside of this room uh oh true crime all the
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time yeah yeah and I think it's a good one yeah I was going to say that is the name of it correct I was like wait a
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second I know that name yeah I used to actually love that I haven't listened to it in a long time because again I I've
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like pulled away from like consuming True Crime outside of here um it's not because they're not good it's just
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because of my own brain yeah but I used to listen to them all the time yeah they
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were delightful all the time all the time true GM so um so yeah so when we last left you
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um Peter is another blazing [ __ ] yeah uh and he's been I mean he's been labeled an aggressive psychopath who
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never never be you know helped helped and can never be helped there is no chance for Recovery several
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psychiatrists have said this what do you do in that situation cuz there's no there like you can't just like hold
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people because what you do you let them out of prison and then this all happens you let them out of prison in October of
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1952 I don't want to yeah it's not great what happens after he comes out of prison either so we're now to it's so
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it's easy to understand why so many me members of law enforcement immediately suspected Peter Manuel in the murders of
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an neand and the watt family yeah like we've we talked about it in part one he was like top of their heads when you
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talk about his previous crimes escalating he's also talking about it all the time and like knowing all these
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like key details and both of those crimes had a lot of the same like signature like Hallmark things from his
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previous crimes leading up to them like dragging an neelan into the wooded area he did that to that woman the wife of
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the man that he was coming the staff member that he was coming to hurt or do whatever he dragged her into a wooded
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area but he stopped before he did anything there because he wasn't escalated why and then the trashing of
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the Watts home and the trashing of the home nearby the Watts the watt house he had done that already like throwing the
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food everywhere putting the cigarettes out like It All Leads lines up you can't deny it no now but
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unfortunately Peter at this point had evolved into for lack of a better word a better and smarter criminal at this
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point because like I said before he was just not was a dumbass before so he left
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a ton of evidence he would always get caught he had evolved unfortunately and he had evolved into a more cunning
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criminal um and so detectives you know did before detectives were able to build really strong cases against him really
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quick right but now it's becoming harder and harder they can't get anything on him and his dad keeps giving him an
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alibi yes after his release from barin Manuel wasted no time getting back to his criminal ways and he was going to go
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bigger than ever and he set into motion a horrifying series of events that fortunately in the end would
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eventually lead to his downfall but it's [ __ ] terrible that all this had to happen for it to happen cuz it should
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have happened a long time ago now on the morning of December 9th police responded
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to a call and this was a strange call it was a call about an abandoned taxi out in the Moors in Newcastle on Ty I looked
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it up I think that's how you say it Newcastle ontin okay so abandoned taxi on the Moors random so they're like it's
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probably not good so when they come to the area they find that the driver's door was wide open so they go and look
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and they see that there is a considerable amount of blood in this taxi oh no and it wasn't until hours
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later that they finally discovered that the driver they discovered the driver 36-year-old cydney Dunn who was a man
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laying face down about 150 yard away in a in a like a a big bunch of Heather like this big bush and they found that
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his throat had been cut and he had been shot in the head oh my God so it was very violent very violent now normally
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investigators would say okay this is [ __ ] terrible and very violent but it looks like it's a very violent botched
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robbery probably he's a taxi driver you know makes got money on him yeah but Dunn's wallet was still in his pocket
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and the money from his fairs still in there all still there nothing was taken what so whoever had killed CD dun had
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not done it for money they didn't take a dime right from the beginning the investigation into this murder was
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really like an uphill slog uh in addition to the heavy rain and snowfall that had was really making it really
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difficult to process the crime scene there wasn't really any evidence to be collected anyways and there was no leads
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so they were just working from like zero right and they just couldn't move to one
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like they couldn't get anywhere another Taxi Driver Thomas Green did tell detectives that two men who appeared to
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be in their mid 20s had approached he and dun around 4:30 a.m. before the murder um one of them was looking for a
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ride to Edmund buyers and the other to Newburn Thomas took the man going to Newburn and the man going to Edmund
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buyers got into Dunn's cab okay now the man was is described as being 25 years old 5' 8 in tall of swarthy complexion
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what isy yeah with dark hair straight and brushback but that was really all they could get from the witness is that
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really good description but like that's really it that's all he had so by the end of December detectives had become so
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desperate for information that they resorted to actually like boots on the ground door too with questionnaire in
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hand to hope that someone in the neighborhood near the Moors maybe heard something see saw something anything um
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a Coroner's inquest was held but other than confirming the cause of death to be murder the jury came to really no other
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conclusions and the inquest was adjourned on December 31st so they said nothing just absolutely nothing now
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while police and Newcastle were literally like pulling their hair out about this case detectives back in
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lanarch sheer were dealing with now a new case of a missing teenage girl oh no and they saw that this case felt very
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familiar very familiar on the evening of December 28th 17-year-old Isabelle cook
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left home a little after 700 p.m. and she was going to attend a dance no does this sound already like an nean exactly
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17 years old leaving to go to a dance she was going to be going to a dance at the Masonic Hall in nearby eddingston
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and she was going to there was a whole plan in place she was going to be meeting her boyfriend Douglas Brien um
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and the two were going to go to the dance together but 45 minutes passed by the hour that they were supposed to meet
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up and Isabelle still hadn't shown up to meet him so he just went inside by himself I like what the heck which I was
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like I mean I don't know what else you do at that point it's in the 50s it's not like you're pulling out a cell phone
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and calling someone yeah exactly but the next morning when Isabelle still hadn't
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come home her parents called the police mhm police immediately launched a huge search for Isabelle they had police dogs
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they went full tilts and they determined through the police dogs they were able to determine that she had taken a
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shortcut off the main road on her way to meet her boyfriend okay this shortcut went through a wooded area along a foot
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path this foot path was very familiar to them because it was where 11 years earlier Peter Manuel had attacked a
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young woman oh it was the same exact foot path it was on that path that investigators discovered Isabelle
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purse most of her belongings were still in the purse some of them were like shot
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like you know scattered around they also found one of her shoes now a police spokesperson told
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reporters that afternoon we're treating this as more serious than just a girl missing from home yeah and a day later
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the case took a really ominous turn because more pieces of Isabelle's clothing were discovered along the banks
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of a river near The Calder Park Zoo a local diver actually came forward and volunteered to search the river just a
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local diver wow which like a lot this community seems like they tried really hard to help out uh but they didn't find
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any more items in the river now for many investigators in this case the details and for us probably too and you
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listening you're probably thinking this is an Nan's murder this is very similar sounds very similar and they thought
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that too they immediately thought of that and the Press they thought it right away too it's not like anybody wasn't
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putting these pieces together okay like and Isabelle had been on her way to a dance when she deviated a little bit
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from the path and then ran into someone presumably dangerous right unfortunately
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after a week of intensive searching I mean like Full Tilt searching they hadn't found any additional evidence no
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leads so speculation was really all they could do until new information came their way but it was the same thing just
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dead end nothing now while detectives on the cook case waited a new and honestly
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more shocking case came their way at this moment shocking at this moment at least on the morning of January 6th two
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Patrol officers were investigating a call about an abandoned vehicle and while they were investigating that call
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they went to the home of the vehicle's owner his name was Peter smart so not Peter Manuel this a different Peters I
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know there's a lot of Peters in this when they arrived at Peter Smart's house several of Peter's co-workers were
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actually already there waiting for them okay they had gone to look in on him because he didn't show up for work that
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morning and he wasn't answering his phone oh wow which concerned people are like real this is like a community over
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here taking care of each other they're showing up at his house cuz they're like he's not answering his phone and this
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isn't like him they were concerned that something was wrong so they had shown up
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and the officers ended up forcing their way inside the house cuz nobody was answering and that's where they found
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Peter his wife Doris and their 11-year-old son Michael all were dead from gunshot wounds to the Head I just
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saw a picture of little Michael and he's like the sweetest little babe oh it breaks your heart it's so sad it's he
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had like no true victim profile whatsoever it was like whole families and young women yeah like so like
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anybody but then also Sydney Dunn who was in his 30s and a man right like to just like no really no Rhyme or Reason
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and it's also like why did you like why did you kill anybody but like why did you kill Sydney done too like you didn't
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take his car or anything like what the [ __ ] just to kill but it's the same with
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everybody it's like you're not taking anything you're not with with the women it seems and we'll get in we'll get into
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it as much as we can because he doesn't really he doesn't really get into it there is some sexual element there that
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we discussed in part one with the like hiking up the skirts and pulling down the pants displaying in certain ways
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yeah there's definitely a sexual element He was just never willing to touch but there was a point when you know
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there's sexual insult involved in a lot of these and also there was the during his escalation period the wife of that
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of that staff member at the school that he ran away from he was fully intending to rape her when he dragged the woods he
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just St yeah so like The Disappearance of Isabelle cook the murder of the smart family like we're probably thinking
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immediately called into mind a different murder it was the murders of Marian and
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Vivian Watt and Margaret Brown the previous year the watt family it was like a direct par it was like it was
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like an nean Isabelle cook watt family smart family it's like he's paralleling yeah so each member of the family like
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the watt family had appeared to be asleep when they were shot in the head at Point Blank Range oh God that's the
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other thing and given that many of the valuable items they had in the house were in plain [ __ ] sight mhm robbery
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was definitely not the motive he had not taken anything not anything of value he takes things
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but nothing of value little trinkets it's more for him he doesn't go and sell it it's his [ __ ] and did he trash this
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house he did he trash the house um superintendent Murdo McKenzie told reporters during a press conference
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there is no sign of the house being broken into huh yeah and Mackenzie also noted that no gun had been found in the
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house so they ruled out a murder suicide immediately because it's a family Annihilation you have to um the coroner
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estimat that all three had been murdered in the early hours of New Year's Day and
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according to the neighbors the smarts had been planning to visit family that day so no one really thought it was odd
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when Peter Smart's car wasn't in the driveway right and the curtains in the house were all drawn what was odd though
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was that in the days after that the curtains in the front windows changed positions several times over the course
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of several days that that means whoever who they didn't know the time but whoever killed the smarts had come back
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to the house or stayed in the house for several days oh I hate that I and that's
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between the murders on January 1st and the discovery of the bodies on January 6th so
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like week what the [ __ ] later after Peter Manuel's trial investigators learned that someone had tried to break
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into the home of John mcmun and his wife the neighbors who lived just a little ways away from the smarts oh God in the
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early hours of January 4th so he had killed the smart family on January 1st by January 4th he was trying to break
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into one of their neighbors house a family to kill them as well which is so similar to what he had done in the
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previous thing except that family wasn't home yep and this time Mrs mcmun woke up
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in the middle of the night to find a man looking at her through their bedroom window trying to break in shut the [ __ ]
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up luckily she sat up and honestly everybody should do this if you ever see somebody trying to break into your house
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she sat up and screamed for her husband to get the guns yeah like she said out loud like get the guns good and he got
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the [ __ ] out of there cuz he was like well [ __ ] I don't want to be in a firefight F oh my God just picturing
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that is so [ __ ] terrifying up and seeing a man outside your bedroom window trying to break in goodbye goodbye oh my
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God [ __ ] that like thank goodness she had the the foresight to be like get the guns
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because I feel like that's something most Intruders don't want to hear yeah so it's like but what the [ __ ] and thenk
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goodness she did it her whole family would have been gone and up cuz obviously he had a gun too like and
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thank goodness she woke up I don't think he liked when they woke up yeah he liked
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to them in a vulnerable position where he could put the gun against their head and do it oh my God that's so [ __ ]
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scary but he he LED and it was only after he had been executed that the mcms confirmed that the man they saw through
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their window was Peter Manuel damn yeah you said executed did you mean to say arrested no he got executed there oh
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okay I was like no no no he got executed spoiler alert um so since his release from barin in November detectives had
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been keeping an eye on Peter Manuel that he was under close surveillance yeah uh
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DCI William Muny who had arrested Manuel several year years earlier for the housebreaking was assigned to lead the
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investigation into Isabelle Cook's disappearance and when he got the case Muny immediately thought of Anne nean
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and Peter Manuel but other than that gut feeling and knowing that there's a connection here somehow there was no
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evidence to connect it so he couldn't really do a lot it was just like my gut is telling me this is it right uh but
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Manuel's name came to mind a few days later when myy heard about the murders of the smart family as well the more his
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name came up in connection with murdered and missing people the the harder it was
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to deny that there is a connection and investigators intensified their surveillance now they really honed in on
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him just waiting for him to [ __ ] up just waiting for that moment CU you know it's
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going to happen and and it happened but their big break did finally come about a
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week later in the course of the investigation detectives had learned they' used some criminal informants to
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try to get more information about Peter Manuel and they learned from one of these informants that Peter Manuel had
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been seen and witnessed by several people spending brand new 5B notes at pubs around Glasgow huh and what they
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had found out was just before the murders they had found out that Peter smart the father of the murdered Family
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Y had withdrawn several new 5 pound Bank notes from the bank because he was going
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to use them on their family holiday right which is really sad heartbreaking and so armed with a warrant and a list
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of the notes smart withdrew from the bank a group of detectives arrived at Peter Manuel's house on the morning of
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January 14th let's go now Peter's father Samuel answered the door and detective superintendent Alex Brown handed him a
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copy of the search warrant and explained that they were looking for any 5B notes
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they were looking for keys and any other evidence potentially taken from the smart home Samuel the father immediately
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got hostile and very very verbally abusive with the office ERS But ultimately ended up letting them into
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the house they got a war [ __ ] had to um when they got in the house they found Peter asleep in a chair in the living
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room I like you [ __ ] bum yeah uh but once he was woken up brown read the warrant out loud to Peter and he Peter
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immediately became abusive and like flipped out hostile like lost his mind but eventually had to comply with the
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whole thing and after getting himself ready he willingly went down to the precinct with two of the officers
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now I'm just taking a detour really quick CU this superintendent Brown I found an interesting article about him
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oh he was apparently like a badass detective [ __ ] and he was one of like two one of a small group of detectives
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in this case that was like very well known to have like cracked this like with hardcore police work right so uh
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they called so his name was um superintendent Brown and he he was known I found this from an article called it's
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in the Glasgow times and it is the story of the cop who caught Peter Manuel hey and it's by Norman Silvester this this
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article I just want to point out a few things about him so he was known to be very methodical in his methods and he
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really had a good understanding of how people ticked that was like his his like his Forte was psychology right and he
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was um so apparently he was known to like also do the most methodical searches of houses like if he had a
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warrant you better hope nothing is in your house because he's going to find it like that man is going to find it one of
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his fellow detectives said if he didn't find what he was looking for in in a house he would strip the paper off the
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walls if necessary [ __ ] like he wasn't letting it if I have a warrant I'm finding this thing and his favorite
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advice to Young detectives was let the other fellow do the worrying huh like he was like the criminal should worry not
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you yeah and then he said use the minimum amount of words and maximum amount of action nice um he was super
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ahead of his time with the psychology stuff he in 1943 he wrote an article for a police magazine titled psychology in
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the investigation of crime huh that was in the 40s yeah that's big that was ahead and he said that the most
00:29:14
successful investigators are the ones who best understand human behavior I mean yeah and which again ahead of his
00:29:21
time with that stuff and apparently when he was investigating the Peter Manuel case he set up an office in the Bothwell
00:29:28
police station and he set up a bed he literally had it installed in the police station because he said he wanted to be
00:29:35
on call and ready to jump into action at any given moment to get this guy or if any new information came up he wanted to
00:29:42
be able to just pop out of bed and just off he goes so he was literally like day
00:29:47
and night on this thing like eat eating sleeping breathing this he was one of the main ones that decided it was time
00:29:52
to strike and get Peter Manuel like go to his house and arrest him they were he was like I'm sick of waiting like to get
00:29:58
this guy he knew that this was the guy and he told Manuel actually that the way they were able to get him um you know
00:30:08
because what we'll see is Peter ends up confessing okay and what he was able to do was he told Peter that they had found
00:30:16
stuff related to another H like um uh I think a reverence home had been broken into the area and he said they they had
00:30:24
found stuff in the manual household from that Breakin so Peter who did it yeah but he told them Brown told Peter we're
00:30:32
charging your father and he was like so he's like it's his house we're going to charge him with
00:30:38
it and that's how he was able to get him to crack he didn't want to turn his dad
00:30:42
he knew via psychology that that was going to be the thing that was going to get him Dam that's a smart move and
00:30:49
later when uh the you know the manual case goes to trial and he ends up being convicted for this um the trial judge
00:30:56
Lord Cameron actually did something that never happens he invited Brown and two other detectives back into his Chambers
00:31:03
afterwards and he thanked them personally for their efforts to get manual arrested wow that's amazing and
00:31:10
in 1959 he was given the Queen's police medal before retiring hell yeah he deserved it and later Peter Manuel
00:31:18
himself said about superintendent Brown I could handle the others but I couldn't
00:31:23
handle Brown [ __ ] isn't that crazy I Google this guy that's why I was like when I read that I was like that's that
00:31:29
guy sounds like a badass he the fact that he was that like committed to making this H like he knew that we got
00:31:38
to get him off the streets like what a badass so that's that's cool to to have all that yeah you got to do it so they
00:31:47
took um so at this point Peter Manuel is going to the precinct he's going downtown you know and uh they took him
00:31:54
out of the house and down to the precinct and this wasn't just something they had to do this was a tactical
00:32:01
decision and this tactical decision was made by Brown nice because he was using psychology he's he knew with Peter out
00:32:09
of the way his elderly parents are going to become a lot less defiant and a lot less aggressive Peter's the Peter's the
00:32:17
thing that's the the main component that's making them this way so he said get them out of the house so we can talk
00:32:22
to them and so they were able to search the rest of the house with very little interference and they found items in the
00:32:29
home um that were related to several crimes they found a pair of men's gloves and a camera which had been stolen from
00:32:36
that home of the local Reverend on Christmas Day actually oh my God and at the precinct Peter was included in
00:32:43
multiple lineups while this was going on and uh and during these lineups they had
00:32:48
Glasgow bartenders come in and identify him as the man who was spending all those brand new 5B notes there it is and
00:32:56
the numbers on those notes match the ones that were taken out of the bank by the smart family and it was during this
00:33:03
time that Peter was also identified by patrol officer Robert Smith he identified him in a totally different
00:33:10
scenario uh apparently Robert Smith said that Peter Manuel was the man who gave him a ride on the morning of January
00:33:18
2nd which would be the day after he killed the smart family that's terrifying according to Robert Smith he
00:33:24
had been hitchhiking to work that morning when a man he identified as Peter Manuel stopped to pick him up in a
00:33:31
gray a30 and the two that's Peter Smart's car right and the two men made small talk and Smith Robert Smith
00:33:39
mentioned he was on his way actually to work and he was going to be participating in the Isabelle cook
00:33:44
search and he said Peter Manuel had a very strong reaction very quickly to even talking about that and he had a
00:33:52
very strong interest in talking about the case with him and before he got out of the car Peter said he felt that the
00:33:58
police weren't looking in the right places M he's so gross oh and just the fact that he's driving around this man's
00:34:07
car like how [ __ ] Brazen he's driving around this man's car knowing he's going
00:34:13
to go back to their house and spend time there by the way talking to a man about
00:34:17
a Mur police off about a case of a young woman that he murdered still missing telling him
00:34:26
like you're not looking in the and they still haven't found her and they still haven't found her oh God now Peter
00:34:33
Emanuel has been pretty good up until this point at like avoiding authorities especially since he's inserting himself
00:34:39
into the [ __ ] investigation at this point and so it does seem like at this point you're like you're getting [ __ ]
00:34:44
sloppy right but I think he just was I think it's like you can't hang on to this kind of [ __ ] for that long nobody
00:34:51
can no like he's going he's too Brazen and he's too he's going so hard so fast there's no way he could keep up with
00:34:59
this and the evidence around him seemed to be piling up at this point and detectives were beginning to make
00:35:04
connections between Peter Manuel in several open murder cases in the area um so he became pretty aware that he was
00:35:12
running out of options at this point so on the morning of January 15th Peter asked that his parents be brought to him
00:35:19
at the station and this was after Brown had told him oh okay it's like it's it's
00:35:24
so cool that you're not involved in any of this um but like we're going to your dad cuz he apparently stole sh from a
00:35:30
reverence house on Christmas day like wild thisly man did this but like he's going to jail forever and so he said
00:35:38
after um so Peter told detectives after I have told my parents and made a clean breast of it to them you can take them
00:35:44
away and I will clear everything up for you okay and he said and I will take you
00:35:49
to where the girl cook is buried so apparently he sobbed and confessed to his parents that he had
00:35:58
killed Anne nean Maran and Vivien watt Margaret Brown Isabelle cook and all three members of the smart family what
00:36:05
the [ __ ] so at this point everyone's aware of Peter Manuel and who he is and his history as a compulsive pathological
00:36:15
liar right so the prosecutor was like yeah yeah like we yeah we prob he probably did that but we're going to
00:36:22
need a little more before we accept this we can't just hear that you did it give
00:36:26
us some details tell us what you did now according to Peter Manuel he broke into
00:36:30
the Smart's house through an open window killed everyone inside then stole whatever cash he could find in the days
00:36:37
after that he returned to the house daily to eat the food and relax in their living room and even fed their cats what
00:36:45
the [ __ ] yep he would just relax in their living room and hang out with their cat while they're dead bodies are
00:36:52
just upstairs just like rotting inside what the [ __ ] and just the fact that he
00:36:56
would like do something like like feed the cat like it's like what and he be like eating their food sitting in their
00:37:03
living room what yeah just making food in their kitchen while they're dead in their bedrooms an 11year old and his
00:37:09
parents yeah yeah oh that's so gross he's like next level Beyond and obviously his knowledge of the Smart's
00:37:19
house the layout and everything and what it looked like inside and the details of
00:37:22
the crime could only have been known to the person who was intimately involved in it and the same was true Pro of the
00:37:27
other cases that he confessed to he had details that no one else would have right and after giving a full confession
00:37:33
he was taken to barin for the evening the next day he um he led detectives to a large field near an Old Brick Works
00:37:41
and um so I looked up how to say this and I found several different ways so I'm going to say the way that seemed the
00:37:47
most to me but feel free Scottish listeners to be like what the [ __ ] did you just say at us I think it's Bailey
00:37:55
eston I don't know what that is it's b a i l l i e s t o n I found like three different ways to say it Bailey eston is
00:38:03
the only one that seemed right to me but I could be wrong and I apologize if I am
00:38:09
but he led them to this large field near an Old Brick Works there and directed their attention to what it was like a
00:38:15
like a little ditch like a shallow ditch okay and he told investigators I dug that hole I had her body here but I was
00:38:21
disturbed by a man taking a shortcut out of the brick works and I had to take her
00:38:25
away okay so they were like okay so after taking the detectives on this long circular route around the field and into
00:38:33
the recently plowed fields of burnt broom farm he reached um he brought them over to like a patch of land that looked
00:38:40
like it had been recently Disturbed and he said and I quote I think she's in there I think I'm standing on her oh my
00:38:49
God yep and he was right he was standing on her when investigators dug about 2 feet
00:38:56
into the Earth Jesus they discovered the body of Isabelle cook just so callous I
00:39:01
think I'm standing on her I think I'm standing on her yeah I think she's in here her skirt had been bunched up
00:39:08
around her waist and her underwear was missing cuz he stole underwear [ __ ] Cur her scarf had been forced into her
00:39:15
mouth as a gag and her bra had been wrapped around her neck and was used to choke her to death um she also had a lot
00:39:22
of bruising on the left side of her face like she had been struck several times very aggressively back at the station
00:39:29
Peter drafted formal confessions in writing to every single one of the murders and provided details of each one
00:39:36
he also confessed to several robberies in the area as well and in all his confessions he emphasized that robberies
00:39:43
were the motive for the attacks but none of that made sense because he didn't steal stuff from most of them right and
00:39:50
he just wanted to make it look like he had a reason quote unquote but like we said earlier in each
00:39:57
one there is a very undeniable sexual element here but he would not talk about it and he would not go into it they
00:40:04
could not get anything about it huh yeah like ever no he never would was frustrating now while Peter Manuel sat
00:40:11
in the Cell at barin there was a large team of investigators just Gathering up evidence and collecting any witness
00:40:18
statements they could to build up that case against him and um with the critical evidence collected at this time
00:40:25
there was a Beretta pistol and webly revolver that were used in the smart and W murders apparently Manuel had thrown
00:40:32
them into the river Clyde after the murders and they found them oh [ __ ] yeah at the same time investigators learned
00:40:38
that Manuel had been in the Newcastle area for a job interview the very night that Sydney Dunn was murdered imagine
00:40:46
that yeah and he was identified as the man seen getting into Dunn's taxi oh man on January 29th he was eventually
00:40:54
charged with the murder of Sydney dun as well okay but that crime actually occurred in England so it couldn't be
00:41:01
included in the other charges and the prosecution was going to have to wait until after the trial in Scotland to do
00:41:06
that one move it over now his trial began May 12th 1958 at the high court in Glasgow and his defense team was um had
00:41:15
John ferns Ian dockerty and Lead Council Harold Les Leslie apparently like they're all volunteer Council assigned
00:41:24
by the Scottish bar okay Dave found that they do it a little different there where like here in America you know
00:41:31
there's like public defenders and like you know you're you're given this person if you can't afford a lawyer that's
00:41:38
their job they do that but apparently over there they just like randomly grab people from the barah association and
00:41:46
we'll be like this is yours now like it's just like they volunteer quote unquote like it's like here it is damn
00:41:52
you get like thrown onto this case essentially that must be tough that must be really tough like what if you have a
00:41:58
bias that's the thing it's like you I guess you can't you know like that's your job you just can't damn but in the
00:42:04
months leading up to the trial the case and headlines around the around this whole thing had definitely crossed over
00:42:10
into like Sensational yeah at this point I can imagine and Spectators were lining
00:42:15
up around the courthouse as early as 8:00 p.m. the night before to get a seat in there people were [ __ ] tailgating
00:42:22
this tailgating it damn yeah and the time between Peter's arrest and the start of the trial investigators had
00:42:28
colle collected a lot of evidence at this point sounds like it and that included over 150 exhibits including the
00:42:35
guns used in the murders and pieces of an Nan's skull oh wow uh the witness list for the prosecution had like 300
00:42:44
people on it so before any opening statements had been made Harold Leslie shocked the court by uh making a
00:42:52
statement on behalf of his client oh God this statement said I appear on behalf of the panel the panel would be like his
00:42:58
you know Peter Manuel right who aderes to his plea of not guilty and there are special defenses
00:43:06
lodged okay despite having made a full [ __ ] confession in writing and verbally and giving details of each
00:43:15
crime including leading them to the missing woman right he changed his plea to not guilty and on May 13th in front
00:43:25
of the entire court he said he wasn't the one who killed the watt family but actually it was William watt the father
00:43:34
that was on the fishing trip are you kidding so he's bringing him back into it that's good that's kind yeah we love
00:43:39
that the court went nuts like the judge took so much time to have to restore order here but eventually it all resumed
00:43:45
as it was supposed to go he's just having fun no and this was not the last time that he was going to stun everybody
00:43:52
so in his the opening statement the lead prosecutor Maurice Gillies laid out the
00:43:57
case against Peter in pretty simplistic terms he just highlighted the evidence against him made the connections between
00:44:04
his whereabouts at the times of the murders were that when they were committed his criminal history that
00:44:09
included specific Hallmarks that happened at these crimes the cigarette the trashing the places the dragging the
00:44:16
woman the the method of killing y all that stuff everything and so their strategy was not really to convince the
00:44:25
jury of his guilt because like he's guilty like he confessed um but to it was basically to let the Witnesses in
00:44:32
evidence demonstrate his irrefutable responsibility for the murders so in the days after that one witness after
00:44:39
another came up and just presented compelling [ __ ] testimonies and evidence against him including the four
00:44:46
men on the work site nearby the discovery of an neilan's body okay um this person confirmed that Manuel had
00:44:53
shown up for work the following day with fresh scratches on his face he was like
00:44:56
y yep that was right after right and that same witness also told the jury he had seen Peter Manuel removing a pair of
00:45:03
bloody work boots from the site a day or two after the murder oh yeah that's so a
00:45:09
few days into the trial the subject then shifted from an nean to the watt family
00:45:13
murders and among the first Witnesses in that whole thing was Lawrence dowle this was William watt's lawyer at
00:45:22
the time of the murders and he was the guy who Peter Manuel was sending letters to claiming William watt was
00:45:30
innocent and now he's turning around at the trial and being like actually he did
00:45:34
this well now he's he's the like so he's going to be saying like I got these yeah
00:45:40
the lawyer but Peter sitting there being like no he he's going to turn around and
00:45:43
be like well actually William W did it and it's like this guy's going to sit there and [ __ ] you up though he has
00:45:49
letters so among other things dowle described Manuel as the most vicious psychopath it has ever been my
00:45:57
Misfortune to meet [ __ ] which is wild for a defense attorney to say that yeah cuz they seen some [ __ ] Charles Talis
00:46:07
who was a known criminal and Associate of Peter Manuel also testified and he explained that he had actually given the
00:46:13
gun Peter used G to Peter that he used in the wat murder oh God he said he told me that he had some bullets and the
00:46:21
bullets wouldn't fit the gun but were falling through the magazine and he said that he helped Manuel make the gun oper
00:46:27
irational and he didn't know that this was what it was for oh man but William watt also
00:46:33
testified not only to give details about the murder yeah but also about Manuel's
00:46:38
contacts with him in the months that followed the murders what yeah so according to William watt he and Manuel
00:46:46
actually met in a hotel room in Glasgow and during this whole thing Manuel attempted to convince him that
00:46:52
three people had been involved in the shooting and one of them was was Charles Tal
00:46:58
what so he he had like kept in touch with William watt the man of the family he had killed and sat down with him at a
00:47:06
hotel like what the actual [ __ ] he really is beyond any kind of hope and he really is this shows you he'll go to the
00:47:15
ends of the Earth to be a [ __ ] slimy piece of [ __ ] he just enjoys it he does
00:47:21
and William Watt on the stand said he said that Charles Talis broke into the house they went in and shot my wife and
00:47:28
sister in bed and then he broke down in tears on the stand yeah now most damning
00:47:33
of all though was the confession that Peter had voluntarily given to police very voluntarily multiple people wrote
00:47:42
it down they were detailed they had intimate familiarity with the watt home like he was in that house all these
00:47:49
homes and he was in in the other crimes same thing he knew the layouts of the houses he knew the details that were not
00:47:56
reported yeah and on the witness stand detective Robert mcneel explained the process by which they obtained this
00:48:03
confession from and that included the statement Manuel made just before he confessed he said there is no future for
00:48:10
me oh and Manuel was alleged to have said I've done some terrible things I killed the girl nean at East Kilbride
00:48:18
and I shot the three women at the house at Burnside and following McNeil's testimony Manuel's confessions were read
00:48:24
in full to the jury they were like you're you gave these like we're not taking them out on May 22nd Peter Manuel
00:48:31
shocked the court again cuz he dismissed his entire defense Council and said I'm
00:48:36
going to act in my own defense oh no no honey we always know how this goes after
00:48:42
a brief recess Harold Leslie addressed the judge saying I am no longer in a position with my colleagues to continue
00:48:48
the cause the panel being desirous of conducting the remainder of the trial so he was like peace deuces in other words
00:48:55
he was fired uh the judge allowed the change but he insisted that the other two defense lawyers Ferns and dockerty
00:49:02
needed to remain close by to possibly assist if needed okay uh but it came very clear I'd be pissed i' be like I
00:49:09
was just going to say I'd be like I just got fired in front of everybody [ __ ] this guy yeah see you he can sink his
00:49:16
own ship you can sink your own [ __ ] ship and Peter didn't want their help yeah he made it clear he fired them yeah
00:49:22
and he never used their help he didn't want it so it's like I just have to sit here and watch this now apparently Peter
00:49:27
Manuel had done this before he had defended himself in court before several years earlier he defended himself in a
00:49:33
rape case in airry Sheriff court and he was unsuccessful he went to prison for that one that's great now regardless of
00:49:41
what happened throughout this whole thing apparently he had a lot of confidence he was very Charming in court
00:49:47
and he impressed even the most success experienced lawyers watching the trial according to Joe Joe B Beltrami who was
00:49:54
a very prominent Scottish lawyer who saw the trial he said judge Lord Cameron said he was surprised at the standard
00:50:01
and skill of the accused and so was I his cross-examination was quite skillful and well thought out which is like nuts
00:50:08
but remember Peter Manuel is pretty bright he was bright in school he just really he just didn't apply himself but
00:50:15
he was very bright sounds like um Ted Bundy yeah now confident or not the prosecution's case against Manuel was
00:50:21
just too strong yeah they had built a considerable amount of evidence like he literally LED them to a body it was very
00:50:27
compelling they didn't need to do a whole lot uh but Peter Manuel's defense on the other hand was uh I didn't do it
00:50:34
oh okay which is uh which is strange when You' confess voluntarily uh verbally and in writing so yeah uh but
00:50:44
when he finally took the own the stand in his own defense he refuted everything that he previously stated or confessed
00:50:50
and he fell back on that old habit of just saying it's everyone else's fault oh okay it's not my fault I didn't do it
00:50:56
final arguments were given on May 29th and the jury took barely two hours before returning guilty verdicts on
00:51:04
seven counts of murder six counts of capital murder for the Watton smart families one count of non- capital
00:51:10
murder for Isabelle cook and what kills me is in the case of Anne neand the jury
00:51:15
felt the evidence did not make the case and he was not found guilty that's shitty yeah now when the verdict was
00:51:22
read the courtroom went nuts and there was like 100 plus reporters in the courtroom too and they all just ran out
00:51:28
of there to go type up their [ __ ] thing for you know the next thing but judge Lord Cameron wasted no time
00:51:35
passing uh sentence he said the sentence of this court is that you be taken from
00:51:40
this place to the prison of barin glasgo therein to be detained until the 19th day of June next and upon that day in
00:51:48
the said prison of barin Glasgow and between the hours of 8 and 10:00 you suffer death by hanging which is
00:51:54
pronounced for Doom [ __ ] like which is pronounced for Doom I'm like damn you guys know they got that good [ __ ] you
00:52:03
have a grasp on that language like it just you know how to make it like after passing the sentence Lord
00:52:11
Cameron just dismissed the jury adjoined the adjin the adjourned I was like adjoined adjourned the court and refused
00:52:19
Peter Manuel the opportunity to make a statement love was literally like shut the [ __ ] up you've talked enough yeah so
00:52:26
for several years the crimes of Peter Manuel captivated the attention of the public across UK I mean they were who
00:52:33
wouldn't be right but once the trial ended and everybody was kind of satisfied he had been sentenced he had
00:52:39
been you know found guilty everything he got what he deserved attention kind of like shifted away so like you know other
00:52:46
stuff was happening so they just kind of were like [ __ ] Peter Manuel bye yeah when the day of his execution arrived on
00:52:52
July 11th 1958 the evening times reported quote as the hands of the prison clock pointed to the execution
00:52:58
hour fewer than a dozen people stood silently outside the prison there was no demonstration no protest by opponents of
00:53:06
capital punishment as the final Act was carried out under due process of law at 8:00 a.m. the Executioner pulled the
00:53:13
lever down he went he was gone hanged to death and the people of Scotland were finally free of the Beast of birkenshaw
00:53:22
damn [ __ ] Peter the fact that like less than 12 people were sh anymore they didn't even need to see him die they
00:53:28
were just like whatever Deuces you're gone you stupid [ __ ] oh what a case though he yeah just just the fact that
00:53:37
like there's no reason for murder ever but his was specifically so senseless and no victim profile no just like
00:53:46
killed to kill yeah it was his crimes were so [ __ ] senseless and so brutal yeah and like
00:53:56
you said like the fact that he didn't have a victim profile just freaky like any it was like a Richard Ramirez how
00:54:03
nobody was safe yeah like the break he had no he would go after couples kids women men families like didn't matter
00:54:11
who you were where you were what was going if he could get you he was going to get you and it's like so scary that's
00:54:17
so scary yeah and that um that McLoud source that I was talking about in the first part and this one is um uh Peter
00:54:25
Manuel serial kill and it's by Hector McLoud and we'll link it obviously in the sources but we used
00:54:31
it a lot but um yeah it's a wild case and one of Scotland's worst serial killers I mean yeah yeah he was a lot
00:54:40
and Scottish listeners let me know if I said baleston correctly or Bailey eston I think I think you had said baile yeah
00:54:48
I hope I did feels Scottish it felt good I'm thinking Bailey no Bailey baile baile fromo so we'll see but yeah
00:54:55
horrible horrible case yeah but he got his in the end yeah yeah and with that we hope you keep listening and we hope
00:55:04
you keep it weird but not so weird that you break into people's homes and kill them because wo cuz what the [ __ ]
00:55:12
horrible yeah [Music] [Music] [Music] oh my g oh my God