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hey weirdos I'm Ash and I'm Elena and this is psychological damage this absolutely is psychological
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damage [Music] with a with a little dash of psychological damage I would say it's a
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lot it is this is part two of Jane toppen who is known as Jolly Jane um she doesn't live up to that name though uh
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that's one of those nicknames that you're like yeah okay yeah I can't think of like any other person to compare it
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to but I know exactly what you mean but oh no I'm making sounds sorry son of a bit yeah we're chaotic right now but you
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you love us for that and we love you back yeah but in part one I mean she was unhinged yeah that's not even the word
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to say the least yeah she ended up killing her own sister um and delighting in it and then trying to go [ __ ] her
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mans trying to go [ __ ] her mans she's not even done with that so she she hasn't even given that up I had a
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feeling cuz then she [ __ ] killed the then she killed the the helper that her brother-in-law had hired to help him in
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the house after he was grieving the death of his wife meanwhile this man is like in his 70s yeah and just like
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dealing with all of this um she has killed countless patients she has killed elderly couples her landlords
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she has killed her friend she has killed I mean there's no bounds to her and she
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does it with a smile on her face and she ends up hugging the person and caressing
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them as they die I hate the part where you say caress yeah it's not great it's pretty horrible it's not great but what
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is great is Ash has found a new passion and before we get into part two which h you need this right now because I'm not
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kidding you I don't think anybody realizes how [ __ ] brutal Jane toppen is but so scared it's going to get worse
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in part two and you you need to be ready so Ash has found a passion and here it is my passion is called sound baths get
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ready that was a good one wasn't she absolutely brown cow stunning you feel healed I always feel healed I'm in a I'm
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on a healing Journey you are on a healing journey I just I put down the sound bath and picked up my French FY
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french fry palis [Laughter] Santo every I have it like a little like chunk of Palos Santo on my chair and I
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keep thinking it's a french fry because that's who I am as an individual and I keep seeing this really this look of
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pure joy on her face when she walks by and I can almost see them like oo a rogue french fry and then she realizes I
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need it right off the arm of my chair she realizes it's not and it's always severe disappointment it makes me
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feel bad but you know what are you going to do that's where we are today we're we're in a place you're welcome for the
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sound bath Mikey went out and bought a sound bath cuz the energy was weird in here should I wait should I quickly tell
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my story yeah tell your story before we get into don't worry we'll get into it but this is a very interesting story and
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it's paranormally so you guys will appreciate it I actually like I've never ever had an experience like this and I'm
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ready to talk about it it happened like it was this week wasn't it yeah it was literally coule days ago and we should
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preface this by saying like um I've been dealing with some [ __ ] [ __ ] lately and
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um it's I've been in a place of of Rage in in this room in particular outside has been like
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very heightened lately will say so I went to go to the bathroom the other day and there wasn't any toilet paper in the
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bathroom so I came in here to be like hey [ __ ] there's no toilet paper in the bathroom but I walked into the
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bathroom experienced the fact that there was no toilet paper went to turn around
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and I'm like about to walk out the doorway of the bathroom and I see Elena like very like I see her and it
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registers like oh that's my [ __ ] sister who didn't fill the toilet paper and you're wearing I saw you wearing a
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white sweatshirt like you're always wearing a white sweatshirt I'm wear one right now literally is wearing one right
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now and I went to say something to you and then I was like I had this like wave of confusion wash over me and this is
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all in like like two seconds yeah but like I experienced a wave of confusion and then you were gone and I was like
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wait that like what that's what and then I walked in here and it was like the one
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[ __ ] day where she wasn't wearing a white sweat chirt and she's just sitting on the couch in the office and I had not
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moved mik was in the room with me and you would have been like I would have seen you like dive onto the couch if you
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were like [ __ ] with me for if you were able to to shift time like that that would have been funny I it was so
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cuz it happened so quickly that I saw you but it wasn't like a oh I just saw something out of the corner of my eye or
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like oh I saw like a reflection in the mirror I literally saw you and you were there for like two three seconds and
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then I I think the wave of confusion that washed over me was like wait no like that's not her but I was and I like
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opened my mouth to say something to you before I was like no that's not her so I
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was literally just standing there with my mouth open just just in an empty room with your mouth open and then I ran in
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here and you saw I was like she was like flushed and like slightly shaking and I
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could I could essentially see her heart beating out of her chest yeah like it was very real fight ORF flight reaction
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that was happening there that I could witness just from looking at her I'm actually surprised I didn't pee my pants
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I am too and then my the [ __ ] that was it's true my walk in the bathroom I'd like to be escorted
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everywhere now it's yeah I don't know what it was but I'm like we were like maybe my energy is so [ __ ] up that
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something's going on I don't really know how that works but we so that's why actually Mikey went out and got the the
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sound bowl and it's my new passion now and even though it stresses me out hates it yeah I hate it I love it but I think
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but Mikey said today we think you hate it partially because you don't like loud noises for sure's but also cuz your
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energy is like no no don't heal me don't heal me with sound maybe I think that's
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what it is I'm open I'm an open book but genuinely I don't think like I've seen actual ghosts before like in front of me
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and I haven't been that that wasn't a ghost that wasn't like a a glimpse of like something out of the corner of my
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eye that was something I've never [ __ ] experienced I really want to know what the [ __ ] it was I when we
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looked into it it seemed like it possibly could have been like a a glitch in The Matrix but it didn't I don't I
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just don't think it was that I feel like it was like a trickster like when we had
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Rachel stavis on we need Rachel back we need Rachel to F we need Rachel here we need her at least on a zoom with us not
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for a recorded thing but like something's up we just got a bring her here and then my little sister was
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texting me today and telling me like a bunch of [ __ ] [ __ ] that's going on like
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spiritual [ __ ] [ __ ] in her house I think maybe I mean we got a clipse energy and
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like I think there's you know there's all kinds of [ __ ] going down in the airwaves right now yeah and like in the
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cosmos it's like energy in general like this in this year of 2024 that we've never experienced on Earth before so I
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think it's just a bunch of [ __ ] [ __ ] happening to be quite honest so let's continue the pattern and you can tell me
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the [ __ ] [ __ ] of uh Jee toppen to to well that's I mean we're going to get into it now
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that we've we've made you wonder about space and time we've bathed you with sounds you know we've bathed you with
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sound we've done all that yeah and now I'm going to take you to a really terrible end of the story I'll sound
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bath you at the end of there go sound bath you B you sound B you um what we're going into right now is her final
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Killing Spree um throughout much of her adult life Jane had found professional success
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and had somehow dodged suspicion like we were talking about and arrest she nobody
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even suspected her and it was due in large part to her ability to place herself into the good graces of powerful
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and influential people that she needed to she was able to manipulate able to charm that's her thing and in fact it
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was the letters of recommendation and other support from Physicians and surgeons that were very well respected
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that had continually got her employment at hospitals and in private nursing her entire life which is wild when you think
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about that yes cuz it's even after so many patients had died under very confusing and unexpected circumstances
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around her and families like going to her being like hey it's weird that this happened and then also all of my loved
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ones things were missing do you think she had something to do with it and they're like ABS [ __ ] lutely not no
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way and then it's like your own sister died violently and unexpectedly on vacation with you yeah weird and then
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your your brother-in-law's housekeeper like your brother-in-law's housekeeper like all these people around you
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yeah it's weird but unfortunately for one of those influential benefactors placing their trust in Jane toppen would
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prove to be a a very poor decision oh no so in the summer of 1901 Jane returned to the Cape Cod Cottage where she had
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murdered her sister just two years earlier oh God Jane had been vacationing there with Elizabeth and oramel since
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1896 and in that time they've gotten to know the owners of the rental property pretty well their names were Alden and
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Mary Davis the davises had always been impressed with Jane's professionalism and success in the nursing realm and
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they were always happy to have her at the cottage for the weekend so they were really nice in fact Jane had so
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ingratiated herself that the couple was willing to let her live in the cottage at a seriously reduced rate of $250 for
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the entire season wow of course as a single person of limited means Jane didn't have that much that much money to
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begin with but accepted the offer anyway of course cuz she just figured I'll just you know I'll just murder
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people if I need to steal it um she figured she would find some way to pay that's part of her illness is she
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believes she will always get out of a jam no matter what cuz she's smarter than everyone and because she has yeah
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she's had no honestly nothing to tell her the contrary and it turned out Jane was right to think the davises cared
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enough for her that they would believe whatever excuse she gave about why she couldn't pay that price that she had
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agreed to pay year after year the couple invited Jane back at the same discounted
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despite the fact that Jane almost never paid what she was owed wow what she owed
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excuse me but eventually however Mary Davis had finally reached the limits of her generosity and she decided she wore
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out her [ __ ] welcome she's done with making exceptions for little Jane top in there so in June after receiving a
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letter from her daughter saying she would be stopping in Boston for a few days Mary thought you know what that's a
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good enough reason to go to the city and finally collect the debt that Jane had owed them Fair yeah way more fair than
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most people would exactly and in the weeks leading up to her plann trip to Boston Mary had actually been in kind of
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poor health on account of her diabetes that she was dealing with which wasn't helped by what at the time was a
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record-breaking Heatwave in the Northeast uh for that reason and more Alden Davis her husband had tried to
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convince her to abandon the trip to visit Jane but Mary was she wasn't taking note for an answer she was like
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nope I am she was firm in her resolve and on the morning of June 25th Alden accompanied his wife to the train
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station cuz she said [ __ ] it I'm going to get that Deb she's a brave [ __ ] when
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Mary Davis finally reached Cambridge that afternoon she wasted no time going straight to Jane's boarding house on
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Wendell Street and she got there just as Jane and her landlords were sitting down
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for dinner so she announced her reason for being at the house and immediately Jane invited Mary to sit down have a
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rest eat something and she insisted that Mary must be thirsty after such a long trip n so she disappeared into the
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kitchen and reappeared with a glass of water for their guest I'm not thirsty at all no after they had eaten Jane said
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she'd be she'd be happy to pay what she owed of course like I'm never I'm not going to stiff you such a good-hearted
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woman I am of course I will and then she said you know what Mary why don't you and me we take a walk to the bank and
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I'll get that money out right now but when Mary stood up from the table she was suddenly very dizzy and felt week
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despite this Mary was determined she was like I'm getting that [ __ ] money and so she was like I'm fine but as soon as
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they stepped outside into that sweltering heat Mary collapsed to the ground June in the middle of Boston is
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not fun and this was a record-breaking Heatwave right so Jane's land Jane's landlord Melvin Beetle rushed outside
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and with Jane's help they were able to get Mary upstairs to a vacant bedroom as Melvin attempted to make Mary
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comfortable Jane disappeared into her own own bedroom where she grabbed a hypodermic needle Mary was clearly very
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uncomfortable and was trying to speak trying to say something and Jane said so I gave her another small dose of
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morphine another remember another uh this quieted Mary for a long time uh the following day Jane sent word to Alden
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her husband to let him know what had happened and Alden sent their daughter geneveve to Cambridge to check on the
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situation although Mary hadn't been in the best health recently Genevie was very
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surprised to find her mother was in such bad shape by the time she got there and
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despite Jane's protest she called the doctor to come immediately good Dr John Nichols came a short time time later and
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was given a thorough explanation of the symptoms by Jane who explained that Mary
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was a bad diabetic who against Jane's advice had eaten a large piece of cake after dinner the previous evening what a
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[ __ ] to to act like this is her diabetes and like her negligence and handling it and she's like and I tried
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to tell her not to but you know she decided to have the cake recognizing that Mary's symptoms were similar to
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that of someone in a diabetic coma the doctor had really no reason to doubt M Jane's assessment yeah I mean she knows
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that she's a medically trained person nor did he have any reason to doubt that the woman was already in the capable
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hands of a trained nurse who had worked at massgen in Cambridge hospital and as a private nurse so he left the house
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with a plan to check periodically over the next couple of days in the week after that Jane spent day after day
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injecting Mary with varying doses of atropine and morphine pushing her to the brink of death then pulling her back oh
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my then repeating the cycle pushing her to the brink of death pulling her back this is like misery
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it's I like diabolical I mean this is this is sadistic and she was angry the fact that Mary was trying to make her
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pay for her [ __ ] which is wild that she's want to exert control over this woman very much so and she was punishing
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her absolutely um as Harold sheer points out in his book this method was quote a
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calculated effort to make the old woman's death seem like the result of natural causes right but she was also
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there was an obvious level of sadism involved in prolonging this death and the agony involved in it uh it was like
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Jane was reveling in the power had and again not o just over Mary's life and death but also the power she had over
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Mary's loved ones who could only sit by helplessly as she died horrifically wow and finally on July 4th Jane
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administered one final dose of morphine and killed Mary Davis just for collecting a debt this is
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like scary the people who year for years had allowed her to live there for like no money and just took care of her yeah
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and then eventually we're like you got to pay your debt and she was like I'll just kill you and not only kill you but
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punish you slowly while there was a certain element of sadism in the murder of Mary Davis Jane's reason for killing
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this woman was mostly because she didn't want to pay the debt yep and she she didn't want to deal with it but in the
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wake of Mary's death for the re for reasons that were never made clear Jane decided pretty immediately that she was
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going to kill the entire family oh like she wasn't stopping at Mary do you think it's possibly so that the that
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house that property they owned couldn't be left to anybody else and she could still go there I don't know that's the
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thing there would be nobody around to question her motives at all cuz they were like you said they were all sitting
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by watching helplessly as Mary died she just got mad and I think she wanted to punish them
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all this is nuts in a few weeks after 's funeral with their father in declining help and health and deep in the throws
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of grief at this point of course geneveve and her sister Minnie invited Jane to stay with the family in katet in
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near the cape at least until Alden was well enough to care for himself again because she's a nurse so they're like
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this is how much they trust her you helped our like they think you helped our mother in her dying days so come
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help our dad when you tortured our mother to death but we have like the fact that they had no idea at that point
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and it wasn't long after Jane had gotten settled in the Davis home that she set the house on fire intending to kill
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everyone inside so whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa what the [ __ ] yep moved in with the family set the house on fire
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so she goes from like slowly methodically poisoning people and getting some kind of sexual thrill out
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of that to literal arson just like to kill kill an entire family what the [ __ ] yeah you said that
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like yeah just like and then she set the whole house on fire and then she set the
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house on fire what set the house on fire thinking she could make it look like an accident
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sure did it work fortunately Alden Davis had been suffering from insomnia since his wife's death he was not able to
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sleep cuz he was so upset he smelled the smoke and began yelling for help at this
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point Jane appeared and was like oh my goodness you roused me from my sleep I had no oh no that is on fire and the two
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put out the fire with minimal damage in the days that followed though she repeatedly tried to burn the house down
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with everyone inside but every time her attempts were thwarted by neighbors who who managed to extinguish the Flames
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before any harm could be done and at what point were they like hey weird that you're here and our house keeps catching
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fire well that's the thing So eventually the family was like it's a little suspicious you're you're kind of the
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common denominator here has never caught on fire before and now that you've moved
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in with us it is um a regular occurrence perpetually catching on fire like it it
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can't stop won't stop catching on fire at this point like they're like this seems to be a pattern that like you are
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here and this is what's happening so they were like Jane this is a little weird like we can you can you stop maybe
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explain what's going on so she made up a story about having seen a stranger lurking around the house just before the
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fires all started sending rumors of an arsonist around the small town and seeming to satisfy the Davis's
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suspicions that they were being targeted oh no and also scaring the [ __ ] out of
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the entire town everyone there a rogue arsonist yeah oh that was extra for I bet that fed her for days now very often
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Jane would find a way to justify her actions so as not to appear psychotic in the case of her elderly and infirm
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victims for example if she would say they were suffering you know they' be better off dead but so what she was
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doing was in their best interest like who gives a [ __ ] if I'm actually torturing them in the case of geneveve
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Gordon Alden and Mary's daughter a similar rationale was applied although she had attempted to appear strong in
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order to support the rest of the family geneveve had in fact been extraordinarily affected by her mother's
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death she was course deep in the throws of grief struggling sometime in Late July Jane pulled Minnie aside to tell
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her you know what I noticed geneveve seems a little melan col and you know what I did see her in the garden shed
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and she was looking at a small bottle I think it was poison essentially being like hey Minnie I think your sister's
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going to kill herself what now the story was a complete fabrication that was a lie of course but the bottle of poison
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was real yeah because Jane planted it there it was Fifer strictly Paris green which was a popular insecticide
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containing high levels of Arsenic and copper both of which are toxic at even small amounts yeah with the of concern
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planted it didn't come as a total surprise a few days later on July 28th when geneveve became violently ill and
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started vomiting uncontrollably geneveve was taken to bed and watched over by Jane the next morning Jane roused Minnie
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to let her know that her sister had died in the middle of the night oh my God a doctor was called and
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the usual evaluation was made after which Genevieve's death was declared the result of disease though no death
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certificate was ever made up that's weird privately Jane told some of the neighbors that she'd found a syringe
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next to Genevieve's bed and believed who have she had taken of her own life so she walked around and told all the
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neighbors that geneveve had killed herself which is clearly untrue this is even worse ready oh no later after her
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arrest Jane said I went to the funeral and felt as Jolly as could be and nobody suspected me in the least
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felt as Jolly as could be at a funeral at her funeral as the killer after killing This Woman's young
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woman's mother in an agonizingly torturous way for trying to collect a debt this is truly unlike any other case
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that we've covered and she's so open about just like whatever and just like she's so open about getting so much
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enthusiasm and like Glee from this yeah now with her sick yeah with her plan to completely eradicate this entire family
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in motion now Jane wasted little time moving on to her next Target on August 8th after returning from a trip to
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Boston Alden Davis returned home to um to the cottage suffering the effects of another record-breaking heat wave that
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was happening this is an awful time for all of them after getting Alden settled on the couch Jane went to get a glass of
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water and Alden was like oh thank you so much I'm going to go to bed and rest but
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I'm going to drink this water first the next morning when Alden didn't come down
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for breakfast one of his grandchild was sent to check on him no and the little girl returned a few minutes later
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frightened because her grandfather wouldn't wake up alarmed Minnie and Genevieve's husband Harry rushed to
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alden's bedside where they found him dead oh my God so she's killed mother father and one sibling and she's not
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done no she's not done and and somehow it gets worse alden's doctor Dr Leonard ladder was summoned to the house and
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Jane explained her theory that after all the stress and grief of the previous month you know what his heart just
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simply gave out like you piece of [ __ ] like he died of a broken heart she's trying to say
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which is yeah legit like that does happen but oh my God and Dr ladder knew alden's history and his recent condition
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so he was like you know what I guess so Janes assessment seems right and he concluded that Davis was known to
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experience weak spells that invariably followed any great excitement or nervous strain and his death was caused by
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apoplexy oh my God now in the past Jane's murders like most serial killers were followed by like a cooling off
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period yeah where she would let things stabilize chill out let the suspicions subside and then she would ramp up again
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but she appears now that she's in the grip of like frenzy this is absolutely frenzy and she was finishing this job
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she wasn't stopping there she was not done less than a week later on the morning of August 12th Minnie and Harry
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Harry is um Genevie husband right uh Minnie and Harry were planning to go to Woods Hole for the day when Jane
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convinced Minnie to drink a glass of cocoa wine to build up her strength for the trip it wasn't long after that
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Minnie began to feel very badly and by the time the pair had returned from Woods Hole Minnie was exhausted dizzy
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and listless barely able to move from the couch feigning concern Jane rushed off to the kitchen to get a glass of
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water into which she dissolved a tablet of morphine and a tablet of atropine the drugs took hold very
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shortly and Jane made Minnie comfortable on the couch then went to bed for the night knowing that she was going to be
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agonizingly dying on the couch oh my God and also Dave's Dave said that cocoa wine is wine with cocaine in it yeah so
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she now has cocaine in her system mixing with whatever the [ __ ] Jane put in for
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water yep atropine and morphine like your heart is going to blow out of your [ __ ] chest this next part is going to
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really get you it got me so that evening while the few remaining members of this
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family slept Jane crept back down to the Parlor Where Minnie had slipped into a coma she ejected her with one additional
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dose of morphine just to make sure this would have been the point usually where she like with her other
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victims that she like gets into the bed with them and does some weird [ __ ] but
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this time she did something in my opinion that's worse she didn't lay with Minnie she went upstairs woke up
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Minnie's 10-year-old son Jesse and quote brought the little boy into her own bed
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and held him close while his mother lied dying on the couch downstairs that's tell me that didn't
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that like my that made my stomach sick no that actually like like that turned my stomach that is
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woke that 10-year-old child up and took him to with him so she could have him near her while she knew that she had
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murdered his mother and she was agonizingly dying downstairs that's that was like her next
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level of like what she was going to derive out of this that's Twisted on so many levels because she claims that she
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gets sexually aroused when these things happen and this seems like it was another way to do so because it's her
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knowing that that's happening downstairs and him not knowing that and she has that woman who's dying's baby in her
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[ __ ] bed that's ew I want to I'm like actually filled with rage all the sudden
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no literally like it turned when I say it turned my stomach it turned my stomach oh
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my I hope something really [ __ ] awful happens to her she's not done no you got
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to tell me at the end that like I never want to hear that like anybody got sentenced to death but this woman
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sentenced her to [ __ ] death she's [ __ ] awful that's heinous that she like that that just sent me yeah it as
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it should Minnie's nearly lifeless body was discovered the next morning August 13th by her cousin Bula Jacobs who
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notified Harry Gordon um that's Jeni's husband yes her brother-in-law yeah for the second time in less than a week Dr
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ladder had to come to the Davis house to attend to a dying person and he was immediately met by Jane again who told
00:28:46
him about the trip the woman had taken to Woods Hole against Jane's advice yeah Dr ladder explained examined Minnie and
00:28:55
prescribed regular drinks of cocoa wine to stimulate her cuz remember we're in the time of we're in the time of you
00:29:02
know living where it was a doctor would just say like do some cocaine about it and like that's like a legit like the
00:29:07
people joke about that but the fact that that's like a legit fil yeah uh it was to like stimulate her and then he left
00:29:14
insisting that he would come back to check on Minnie under the circumstances it seems the decision to give this
00:29:21
patient more alcohol like laced with cocaine before leaving would make us be like what the [ __ ] yeah but it's truly a
00:29:27
test to how thoroughly Jane had convinced everyone of her competency and innocence
00:29:33
that he was like okay just continue the course and we'll she'll be fine right of
00:29:37
course by that point Minnie was far too sedated to drink anything so Jane created a poison
00:29:44
enema what you heard that right a poison enema by dissolving a morphine tablet in
00:29:52
whiskey what then she administered it to Minnie a poison enema yep I'm so I yeah no words
00:30:07
I what the [ __ ] when Dr ladder returned a few hours later he was surprised to find that Minnie's condition had
00:30:14
severely worsened so he called for another doctor who happened to be vacationing nearby the two men tried for
00:30:20
literally hours to get Minnie back to stable but she was almost completely unresponsive by this point a little
00:30:27
after 4 p.m. that afternoon after having been subjected to every treatment and medication the doctors could think of
00:30:34
mini Gibbs died from what Dr ladder would later describe simply as exhaustion exhaustion
00:30:44
mhm and a poison enema is nowhere near where I ever thought we would go your mind can't conceive of it a
00:30:54
poison enema you can't conceive of what this woman does like you really can't the [ __ ] thinks of that Jane toppen and
00:31:02
that that's also like weirdly yeah this just weird [ __ ] like that's [ __ ] weird she's
00:31:10
[ __ ] [ __ ] oh my God and just like to to violate her like that like like she's already completely out of it and
00:31:19
you're just performing a [ __ ] enema like that's like another level like obviously you're killing her that's
00:31:24
[ __ ] violation of anybody's yeah it's an enema that you know is going going to
00:31:28
prolong this torture and make it worse oh my God that's that's beyond that's beyond and obviously right now it seems
00:31:36
like nearly impossible to believe that an entire family could die unexpectedly and under mysterious circumstances in a
00:31:42
six week span without raising significant suspicions it sure does but in 1901 medicine and biology were still
00:31:50
emerging as modern fields of study so diagnosises were sometimes like they were rudimentary and really poorly at
00:31:58
best and very few people would have suspected much less ever believed that a woman especially a nurse would be
00:32:06
capable of systematically killing four people who she had known for years and claimed to have loved for years she
00:32:14
claimed to have loved this family I'm just like but like hey everyone in town like this woman shows up their house
00:32:22
starts as Elena said perpetually catching on fire always after one of them died then a bunch of them die and
00:32:29
like weird circumstances the fire and and the numerous numerous deaths to me I'm like
00:32:39
it's really hard to think it's hard to understand especially from this this place time where we are but the
00:32:46
residents of katat just Chuck chocked up the death of the Davis family as an act
00:32:50
of God and said it was very tragic but what can we do and it's likely no one thought much about
00:32:58
you know Jane at all no one ever ever bothered to ask any questions when she packed her bags and returned to Boston
00:33:05
they were just like okay bye Jane sorry and it's not even like she kept going back to that house so she didn't
00:33:12
even do this not that that would make it any better she house she didn't even do
00:33:16
it for that that's why I think she just did it cuz she wanted to demolished her entire family satisfaction out of it and
00:33:23
like what happened to these kids yeah she left Terry Harry yeah Harry was the only one who
00:33:30
she wanted to kill all the actual like family like the blood Family Blood exactly yeah and despite and I mean you
00:33:37
think we're done we're not done no despite the passage of many many years Jane had never stopped believing that
00:33:44
with Elizabeth out of the way she could finally have orml Brigham to herself she
00:33:49
wasn't done girly pul she wasn't done in late August 1901 Jane had just returned
00:33:55
home from Cape Cod and given that she had no pressing things to attend to decided she would pay a visit to her
00:34:01
former home oh and when she arrived in LOL to visit Brigham she had expected to find him alone but was disappointed
00:34:08
because when she went there his sister 70-year-old Edna banister happened to be there just like Florence Caulkins on the
00:34:16
previous visit Jane looked at her and said well you're not a romantic rival but you are competing for his attention
00:34:23
and I don't like that and just as before she she resorted to her typical methods of dealing with
00:34:30
problems on the afternoon of August 26th Edna felt dizzy and was generally feeling run down so she went to her room
00:34:37
to take a nap when she awoke later that evening she was already feeling better just a little spell but Jane still
00:34:43
insisted the woman should rest and brought her her classic glass of water that's so scary that it's just something
00:34:49
inous as a glass of water water here's water in the middle of the night as Jane watched over Edna the woman slipped in
00:34:57
into a coma the following morning oramel called for Dr William Bass the same physician who was called upon Florence's
00:35:04
death but the doctor was unable to revive Edna the next day Edna banister was declared dead from heart failure
00:35:12
later when Jane finally confessed to her crimes to the police she said everything
00:35:17
seemed favorable for my marrying Mr Brigham I had put the three women to death who had stood in my way stop it
00:35:24
that when you actually lay that out like that that's first of all how she sees that is that the his wife his
00:35:31
housekeeper and his sister are Rivals who stand in her way yep and I put them to death she killed
00:35:39
them because of that literally said I had put the three women to death who stood in my way I put them to death like
00:35:48
she somehow has the power to sentence them to death it's just so callous like the way she speaks she's so callous now
00:35:56
we we've been sitting here this whole time being like where the [ __ ] are all the people that suspect that something
00:36:00
weird is a funny because again like now this same doctor and poor orl he's like am I just a death magnet like is every
00:36:07
woman in my life going to die like the grief in his life yeah but the thing is throughout her adult life several people
00:36:13
did suspect her of nefariousness but they didn't really know what she had done like they they
00:36:20
couldn't they weren't like hey I think she's murdering lots of people like no one was really thinking that they just
00:36:27
couldn't be sure like they were like something's off here like she's something's up with her I don't know
00:36:31
what it is I think she's doing some bad [ __ ] but people are dying around her but
00:36:35
she's a nurse and a woman I can't imagine she's so nice right taking care of us you know it was one of those kind
00:36:40
of things but after his daughter-in-law Minnie's mysterious death and the death of her immediate family Captain Paul
00:36:47
Gibbs became suspicious that these deaths weren't the result of natural causes let's [ __ ] go Paul Gibbs
00:36:54
Captain let's go Captain Paul Gibbs he had just visited with Minnie the day before her death and she while obviously
00:37:00
deeply in grief everyone was dying around her and her family she hardly seemed exhausted him he was like he was
00:37:07
like he she died of exhaustion the next day was fine she was fine she was just sad then after Minnie had become ill
00:37:14
Gibbs paid a visit to see how she was doing and walked in on Jane giving Minnie an injection huh the scene itself
00:37:22
hardly seemed unusual because after all Minnie was sick and Jane was a nurse yet
00:37:27
there was something that he couldn't pinpoint he was like there's something secretive about her behavior it's it
00:37:33
didn't look like she wanted me to see that right and it made him think that she was doing something she shouldn't
00:37:37
have done he was picking up on the little details and he's a dad like he's a parent like something up he's a
00:37:43
[ __ ] captain of what we don't know but he's a captain of this and after the young woman's death Paul suggested that
00:37:49
an autopsy should be performed like he was proactive he was like let's figure this out wild suggestion and Jane
00:37:56
strongly objected saying there is no need of an autopsy there was no suspicious circumstances I'd be like uh
00:38:02
she's a nurse maybe as far as you're concerned and he didn't want to spread any slanderous rumors so he kept his
00:38:10
concerns to himself for a while because he was like I feel like I'm going to like he's being a decent human and being
00:38:15
like I don't want to like totally smear This Woman's name if I'm like completely
00:38:19
wrong right like she's a nurse like I'm just going to like [ __ ] up her whole life by being like I think you killed
00:38:23
her when I don't have the proof yeah so he was like you know what like I I'll just keep it to myself but it turned out
00:38:31
he wasn't alone in this especially when it came to the Davis Family the day before his death Alden Davis took a
00:38:39
train to Boston to do some business and on his return trip he spoke to a fellow train passenger named IRA Cushing in the
00:38:47
following days Cushing was shocked to learn that Alden had died cuz he appeared very healthy when he had seen
00:38:53
him it didn't seem possible that this man could look and feel perfectly healthy one day than dead the next right
00:39:00
his suspicions were further stoked when just a few days later alden's young healthy daughter died under similarly
00:39:07
mysterious circumstances I'm so glad people are like actually putting things together here yeah like this is [ __ ]
00:39:13
weird because he he couldn't be certain about what had happened but Ira Cushing felt it was important that he at least
00:39:18
share his perspective with someone nice so he sought out Captain Gibbs who he knew had a close relationship with the
00:39:25
Davis Family Cushing paid a visit to Gibbs a short time after Minnie's funeral and explained that he believed
00:39:31
the Davis family had been poisoned and he said probably with arsenic close to his surprise Gibbs agreed he was like oh
00:39:39
my God thank you're saying exactly what I've been thinking and he's like or at least something like that like arsenic
00:39:46
in leveraging their most influential contacts the two men initiated a plan to get the bodies exhumed and to have
00:39:52
proper autopsies conducted to on the Davis family members let's [ __ ] King go these two kings here two kings and it
00:40:02
took some persuasive arguing but eventually Cushing and Gibbs were able to convince the da that there was some
00:40:08
reason to believe the deaths hadn't been natural damn and the da agreed to have the bodies of geneveve and Minnie
00:40:15
exhumed wow on August 30th the bodies were exhumed from their graves and autopsies were performed by Dr Robert
00:40:22
font the medical examiner from uh barnable County with assistance from two doctor s from Harvard Medical
00:40:29
School also based on the two men's suspicions the district attorney assigned state police detective John
00:40:35
Patterson to tail Jane let's [ __ ] go let's somebody go get her go go get her go get her so detective Patterson Trail
00:40:45
Jane from the moment she left katow oh [ __ ] following her all the way to LOL where he took a room in a boarding house
00:40:52
under an assumed name Jane meanwhile had already resumed her plan to marry orml Brigham however
00:41:00
when she realized the man wasn't interested in her Jane then made a disingenuous attempt to end her own life
00:41:06
by drinking poison okay but what she was doing and she admitted this later was she was hoping that it the dramatic
00:41:11
display would just convince briam to give in right the plan didn't work obviously he's like I really just don't
00:41:18
like you no way and Jane was admitted to LOL General Hospital where Patterson also checked in under an assumed name
00:41:24
shut the [ __ ] up discharged from the hospital in early October Jane decided to abandon her plans to marry Brigham
00:41:31
and instead headed out to visit an old friend in Amherst New Hampshire with John Patterson following closely behind
00:41:38
while Jane was visiting amher doctors on Cape Cod were examining geneveve and Minnie's remains well the press were
00:41:45
just sitting by waiting to hear what the [ __ ] was going on in 1901 what the [ __ ]
00:41:50
else is going on yeah and given how tight lipped the clinicians were being the Press started speculating that it
00:41:56
was probably all [ __ ] they weren't hearing anything so they were like up so the Boston Daily Globe actually wrote
00:42:02
from Facts gleaned after the autopsies it is inferred that nothing was found to Warrant any suspicions they weren't
00:42:09
saying that because they heard that they were saying that cuz they hadn't heard anything yeah so they just [ __ ]
00:42:13
they're making an inference it's easy to understand why that assumption was made
00:42:18
because the alternative was honestly too hideous for anyone to even comprehend at
00:42:22
that point of course absolutely the truth though was that Dr font and his colleague had found lethal traces of
00:42:29
poison in Minnie's stomach that very much exceeded anything one might consume on accident that finding along with the
00:42:37
growing suspicions around Jane was enough to get an arrest warrant nice on October 29th state police detective
00:42:45
Josephus Whitney Josephus I know Josephus forever Josephus Whitney uh in the company of two other
00:42:55
detectives traveled to Hurst and sought out Patterson who was staying at a boarding house near the home of George
00:43:01
and Sarah Nichols with whom Jane had been staying get those people away from her oh absolutely because you'll hear in
00:43:08
a second the detectives informed Patterson of the autopsy results and together the four detectives went to the
00:43:13
Nickels home to arrest Jane toppen incredible since leaving Calment in late summer Jane had begun to get the
00:43:20
impression that people were uh maybe gossiping about her a little bit I wonder why and that maybe they were
00:43:25
suspecting that she had something to do with the the Davis Family deaths maybe whether this was just paranoia or not is
00:43:31
unknown but when detective showed up with the arrest warrant Jane was not surprised at all when they announced
00:43:37
that she was being arrested for the murder of Min Gibbs Jane was unperturbed started packing her things without any
00:43:43
issue and said I'm innocent and then she said and I'll readily go back with you I'm very shocked by this and it seemed
00:43:50
that they had gotten there just in time because in her confession Jame said Jane
00:43:53
said if the police hadn't shown up when they did I might have killed George Nichols and his sister too the fact that
00:43:59
she says like I might have like maybe maybe if I felt like it that isn't that just [ __ ] crazy that's [ __ ] up like
00:44:06
she didn't even she didn't go there with any intention to kill them but she was like if I if I got around to it like if
00:44:11
they pissed me off I might have if the mood struck you know literally though so Jane was transported back to Barnstable
00:44:18
Barn Barn where she was held on the charge of Murder in the case of mini Gibbs the next day she appeared before a
00:44:24
judge in the Bristol County Court where she pleaded not guilty to the charge and
00:44:28
the case was continued to November 8th and Jane was remanded without bail just as she's always done in the path when
00:44:34
she was accused of wrongdoing she took on the role of I'm so misunderstood I'm a victim told the
00:44:41
press that oh no like in total victimhood oh she insisted she'd knew nothing about the deaths of the Davis
00:44:48
Family excepting that I suppose they all died from natural causes she told the reporter yeah but if Jane was hoping to
00:44:55
keep her name and story out of the paper papers she uh didn't do a good job within days nearly every paper across
00:45:02
the state and honestly the surrounding areas was dedicating multiple pages to this story reporters were seeking out
00:45:09
anyone that could have any facts or any speculation really on Jane toppen uh and
00:45:14
while she was only facing one charge of murder at the time several people started connecting the dots and
00:45:19
wondering whether all those who died under Jane's care had in fact died of natural causes the answer is no and in a
00:45:27
statement to the Press regarding Jane's desire to marry him orl brigam said it is generally understood that she did and
00:45:34
I never proposed to her nor she to me I suppose she wanted to get the money Mrs toppen left and she if she married me
00:45:40
and I was out of the way of course it would be hers wow so he was like she was going to kill me like yeah she wanted to
00:45:46
marry me but I'm pretty sure she would have killed me and taken the money it was just a conquest yeah Jane toppen had
00:45:51
spent years murdering people and went entirely undetected in fact any time a person did voice any concern or any
00:46:00
suspicions you you heard they were shouted down by someone way more powerful who outright refused to
00:46:08
entertain any notion that Jane could be anything other than professional amazing
00:46:14
no way could she have murdered someone to the point where their faces literally became omelets but also now it seemed
00:46:21
like everyone had a story to tell about Jane and her cruel or bizarre behavior I
00:46:26
believe it named classmates from primary school were quot quoted as saying they had always had a certain fear of her wow
00:46:33
while other articles noted any peculiarity as though it was evidence of insanity all of a sudden it was as
00:46:40
though everyone went from believing in Jane's innocent without any questions just blindly to all of a sudden
00:46:46
harboring these deep-seated suspicions that she'd always been capable of Cruelty and murder and it's like where
00:46:51
were you yeah exactly when all these people were murdered exactly because the grand jury had already broken for the
00:46:57
year there was considerable time between when she was arraigned in her trial in that time the Press went crazy trying to
00:47:04
publish anything they could get their hands on about it specifically related to Jane's motives and her sanity by
00:47:10
March the DA's office had assembled a panel of three alienists which is psychologists I also wish we called them
00:47:17
that now alienists the alienists like I think that's such a cool name that's fun
00:47:21
um it was to determine whether she was sane and could even be held accountable for the murders upon their first visit
00:47:27
to Jane she was defiant and she said why how absurd me insane of course I'm not I'll show them that I'm not insane andd
00:47:34
be like I'm good I think you should probably go with the the insane inness the more Jane talked the more the panel
00:47:41
of doctors concluded she was definitely psychologically impaired yeah while Jane
00:47:46
was also always intelligent and always very coherent and never resembled what the public at that time imagined a
00:47:53
mentally ill person to be there was increasing ly little doubt that Jane was entirely capable of murder they said
00:48:01
quote her utter mendacity and disposition to speak slurring of even her best friends and to make accusations
00:48:07
against them almost without exception to praise one minut and blame the next was
00:48:12
very marked and the P that's what the panel wrote in their report and they also noted that she seemed to lie con
00:48:18
constantly making the most outrageous claims seemingly without any regard of whether even someone believed her so
00:48:24
they're like uh altogether we Sur that something's up here that she's wild uh by April after multiple visits with Jane
00:48:32
in her jail cell the alienists concluded quote homicidal Mania is naturally the dominant force in the mentality of the
00:48:38
nurse and Miss Jane toppen is insane huh so they said homicidal Mania which makes sense wow it does also by
00:48:47
that by that time the charges against Jane had grown to include three of the four members of the Davis family all of
00:48:53
whom she was accused of killing with intentionally fatal doses of morine or some other poison and it turned out that
00:49:00
once the three doctors got Jane talking she was more than happy to boast about herself and her crimes so all they
00:49:06
needed to do was sit back and listen to her I wonder at what point she was just like n actually
00:49:12
[ __ ] cuz at first she's like nope I didn't do [ __ ] and I'll prove it to you I think then she was just like whatever
00:49:17
cuz she thought she would get out of it right and she was like I might as well just tell you it's kind of fun to talk
00:49:21
about so I'll get out of it I'm sure God you know or do you think it was when she
00:49:25
realized like oh [ __ ] I'm probably not going to get out of this she never realized that really she didn't realize
00:49:29
that until it was way past this she thought even when she was sentenced she thought there's no way I'll get out of
00:49:37
this spoiler alert um although she stopped short of confessing outright to a large number of murders her quote fond
00:49:47
remembrances of the patients who had met such tragic deaths was a compelling reason to suspect her of killing dozens
00:49:54
of people I would say so in their final report to the DA's office the panel of alienists concluded that Jane had
00:50:00
exercised quote a cool judgment scious and sound when she committed the murders and that she was quote insane and
00:50:09
irresponsible at the time of the homicide with which she is charged the problem though was what do you do with
00:50:15
her Jane's Insanity was not temporary and as far as the alienists saw it it was something that she had always had
00:50:22
and was always going to live with like this wasn't something that was going to be fixed and it was also not something
00:50:28
she could really be treated for and yeah like released into the world they said her disease being constitutional she
00:50:35
will never recover and that if ever at large again she would be a constant menace to the community I love that they
00:50:42
describe it as a menace like I think she was a little bit more than that she was
00:50:45
a a top tier Menace I would say a threat yeah on June 22 a special session of the
00:50:52
Barnstable Superior Court was called to order was called to order in the case against Jane by that time she had
00:50:58
confessed to at least 31 murders damn but was now suspected of many more given the notoriety of the case the
00:51:07
prosecution was led by Massachusetts Attorney General Herbert Parker who presented the jury with Jane's
00:51:13
confession and the many of the important points from the psychological evaluation
00:51:17
concluding that Jane was and always would be a danger to society I mean pretty remarkably but
00:51:23
honestly understandably the defense didn't really bother to refute the claims made and just agreed with the
00:51:28
narrative presented by Parker including their Theory as to the motive which is personal or financial gain means she was
00:51:36
irredeemably insane yeah and opportunity she was a nurse with unrestricted access
00:51:41
to poisons just nuts the trial lasted less than one day and the only testimony presented was the panel of alienists who
00:51:49
evaluated Jane at various points leading up to this yeah and given that Jane who
00:51:54
was only really formally charged with three murders admitted to murdering murdering 12 people and had been
00:51:59
described like at least 12 people at least uh and had been described by three doctors as having quote a degenerate
00:52:05
type of insanity there was little doubt as to what the verdict was going to be and after hearing the testimony and
00:52:11
listening to both sides the jury deliberated briefly and returned a verdict of Not Guilty by reason of
00:52:17
insanity despite being found not guilty it was still understood that Jane was a highly dangerous person who needed to be
00:52:25
permanently removed from Society so she was a sentence to immediate commitment to quote the Taunton insane hospital for
00:52:33
life that's a quote that's not me saying it when the sentence was read Jane seemed completely unmoved and said I
00:52:40
realized that I'm not fit to be free and I think you've done the best thing for me so it was like I don't actually give
00:52:46
a [ __ ] about this so whatever so I guess lock me away whatever cuz she's like I
00:52:51
now from the moment Jame was arrested practically all of New England followed the case daily and we're very surprised
00:52:57
by how jovial and high-spirited Jane had been in the face of all these accusations however just two years later
00:53:05
the Boston Globe reported that in her time at Taunton Hospital Jane had become quote emaciated her High Spirits have
00:53:11
gone and is not believe she can live very long I saw a picture of yeah there there's a photo of her when she was
00:53:18
admitted and then like one or two years in and she looks like a different person
00:53:21
a completely different person and equally shocking to everyone was the ways in which had de had decomposed
00:53:28
mentally yeah um the globe reported the mind that was able to convince so many that it was normal is now palpably
00:53:36
diseased for mental imbecility that means physical de dis disintegration has complete possession of the nurse wow not
00:53:45
surprisingly Jane entered the hospital like I said with the belief that it was going to be a short confinement she was
00:53:52
going to win her release she was going to get out she'll convince somebody and she thought she would convince somebody
00:53:58
I will be able to convince them to let me out I believe it and this of course directly contradicted the Court's order
00:54:04
that she was going to be confined for the remainder of her life but Jane's personality disorder told her made her
00:54:10
believe that she was smarter and better than any other people and would eventually get out of this predicament
00:54:15
she found herself in when it became apparent finally that she wouldn't get out of the situation as easily as all
00:54:21
the others Jane became defiant and uncooperative and eventually she fell back her old habits of pettiness and
00:54:28
spiteful gossip that had plagued her her entire life one report said she has abandoned the careless cheerful frame of
00:54:34
mind in which she has been here to heret for been and is now fretful peevish even
00:54:40
ugly and fearful of eating because of suspected poison which I think how's that is the
00:54:47
funniest like Karma move in the whole world it's also just hilarious that they're like she's even ugly now she's
00:54:54
even ugly now I know I'm like Dam I was like what a damn early 1900s like Jesus she's fretful peevish even ugly yeah
00:55:03
even ugly now she was a lot of things in the year after she was confin started to
00:55:09
be confined but one thing she never was remorseful I believe I'm not even shocked by that ever and while she may
00:55:17
have been unpleasant and been a Relentless gossip Jane's time at Taunton Hospital passed relatively uneventfully
00:55:25
eventually she be became what one staff member described as a quiet old lady just another patient who caused no
00:55:30
trouble on August 17th 1938 Jane toppen died from natural causes at Taunton State hospital at the age of 84 the fact
00:55:40
that she got to live that long really makes you wonder what the forces are that be yeah in writing of her death
00:55:47
many papers could not resist using the statement she made to the Press after she was sentenced and this is it I have
00:55:54
given the alienists and her ber Parker the names of 31 persons I killed but as a matter of fact I killed many more
00:56:01
whose names I cannot recall I think it would be safe to say that I killed at least hundred from the time I became a
00:56:07
nurse at a Boston hospital where I killed the first one until I ended the lives of the Davis Family wow and that
00:56:15
is the story of Jane toppen that was absolutely mindbending she is incredibly prolific and incredible [ __ ] up truly
00:56:28
like wow I was also just looking at pictures of the um state hospital that she was that cuz I I think it got
00:56:35
demolished yeah it did um and it was the second mental hospital in Massachusetts
00:56:41
ever oh yeah yeah that's like one of the one of the the infamous ones you know crazy yeah
00:56:47
um I also think the site is like super haunted I've seen it in one of the New England books yeah it definitely is it's
00:56:54
one of those ones that's always on the list it just like that part of the story just caught my attention for a minute
00:56:58
but holy [ __ ] yeah that the way that that like obviously like murder is terrifying in and of itself and like it
00:57:07
started off so scary but then as it went through she just got so much more unhinged with every last murder like she
00:57:17
just wanted to kill an entire family yeah and in your straight in your rational mind like you're thinking like
00:57:24
there has to be an end game like for why she wanted to do that like I was I was like no she she wants the house yeah
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like when you said that I was like oh just wait but no she never even like she didn't want the house she just she just
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wanted to kill a family yeah she felt like she was justified in everything she did that really was like a a mindbending
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case that one was a wild one yeah so with that being said we hope you keep listening and we hope you keep it weird
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but not so weird as Jane topen because is what the actual [ __ ] what [Music]