How the U.S. Can Get Its Debt Under Control
Episode Description
ABOUT THE EPISODE Kent Smetters, Boettner Professor and Professor of Business Economics and Public Policy at the Wharton School, says U.S. debt has topped $38 trillion, driven by rising interest costs and entitlement spending. He notes the U.S. already has one of the most progressive tax systems but collects less revenue than other major economies. Fixing the imbalance will require both new broad-based taxes and gradual increases in the retirement age. Tariffs, he adds, are an inefficient way to raise money and hurt growth. Real progress depends on long-term, bipartisan fiscal reform, rather than short-term politics.
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Brief Summary
Kent Smatters discusses the US national debt crisis and potential solutions, including tax reforms and adjustments to entitlement programs.
Key points
- US National Debt Surges. The US national debt has climbed above $38 trillion, raising concerns about fiscal sustainability.
- Urgency on Social Security. Experts warn that Social Security issues may come to a head in about a decade.
- The Tariff Revenue Debate. The efficiency of tariffs as a revenue source is questioned amid ongoing legal challenges.
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Episode highlights
- Urgency on Social SecurityExperts warn that Social Security issues may come to a head in about a decade.“It's probably about 8 years or so.”4:34Nov 7, 2025
- The Tariff Revenue DebateThe efficiency of tariffs as a revenue source is questioned amid ongoing legal challenges.“Tariffs are an extremely inefficient way of raising revenue.”7:24Nov 7, 2025





