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Grit in the Boardroom

  • Jul 15, 2026
  • 1:00:00
  • Full Episode

In this episode of Grit in the Boardroom, Erika Eliasson-Norris, CEO of Beyond Governance, sits down with Dr. I. Stephanie Boyce CBE FKC for one of the most compelling executive interviews on leadership decisions, institutional trust, and what it truly takes to lead when the stakes are highest. As the first person of colour and first black president of the Law Society of England and Wales, Stephanie led one of Britain's oldest institutions through the pandemic, political upheaval, and constitutional reform, delivering a masterclass in high stakes strategy and business resilience.

Together, Erika and Stephanie explore the C-suite insights behind making critical boardroom decisions with incomplete information, the early warning signs of boards losing their judgment and why honest leadership in crisis builds more trust than polished silence ever could.

Drawing on Stephanie's decades of experience across public bodies, regulatory organisations and governance roles, this conversation delivers deeply practical governance lessons on the myths of meritocracy and how boards can either strengthen or erode trust through the voices they choose to include.

What you'll learn in this episode:

Why making executive decision making and boardroom decisions with only 60% of the information requires flexibility, honesty, and the right voices in the room.

How boards lose their judgment when challenge disappears and collective responsibility becomes performative.

Why honest leadership decisions, including publicly admitting mistakes, build more trust than trying to control the narrative.

How corporate governance fails when organisations recruit in their own likeness and ignore cognitive diversity.

The early signs of board effectiveness breaking down and how silence in the boardroom signals deeper problems.

Why the independence of the legal profession matters to every board navigating risk management and ethical accountability.

How personal resilience and four attempts at the presidency shaped a leader who refused to be defined by barriers.

What boards can learn from corporate scandal about values, trust, and the cost of abandoning principles under pressure.

Why company culture change starts with asking who is in the room, who is missing, and whose voice is not being heard, and what that reveals about company culture.

How empathetic leadership and vulnerability can coexist with strength, decisiveness, and growth under pressure.

About the guest Dr. I. Stephanie Boyce CBE FKC DL is a solicitor, governance leader, and public servant who made history as the 177th President of the Law Society of England and Wales, the first person of colour and first black individual to hold the role. She led the organisation through an exceptionally demanding period including the pandemic, post-Brexit transition, and significant regulatory reform. Stephanie currently serves as Chair of The Solicitors' Charity, Deputy Lieutenant of Buckinghamshire, Honorary Professor of Law at King's College London, and Commissioner on the National Preparedness Commission. Her career is a management case study in leading with integrity, challenging assumptions about who belongs in positions of power, and using influence as service rather than self-advancement.

About the host Erika Eliasson-Norris is Chief Executive Officer (CEO) of Beyond Governance and Governance Assessor to the United Kingdom’s Post Office Horizon IT Inquiry.

About Grit in the Boardroom: Grit in the Boardroom is a bi-weekly podcast where Erika Eliasson-Norris sits down with the best in business for executive interviews. She and her guests explore corporate governance beyond the sealed doors of the C-suite. As Governance Assessor for the Post Office Horizon IT Inquiry, the largest public inquiry in UK history, Erika Eliasson-Norris is helping shape accountability, governance reform, and corporate oversight across the UK.

About Beyond Governance: Beyond Governance provides on-demand company secretarial support, governance advisory, and governance training to boards, Company Secretaries, and General Counsel. They help organisations strengthen governance, manage risk, and support critical projects without the need for permanent hires.

Learn more here: https://beyondgovernance.com/

Brief Summary

Dr. I. Stephanie Boyce discusses leadership, integrity, and empathy during crises, emphasizing the impact of COVID-19 on the legal profession.

Key points

  • The Importance of Integrity. Boyce emphasizes the critical nature of integrity in leadership and the legal profession.
  • Leading Through Crisis. Dr. I. Stephanie Boyce discusses the challenges of leading the Law Society during COVID-19.
  • Facing Public Criticism. Boyce reflects on defending the independence of the legal profession amidst public scrutiny.
  • The Importance of Honesty. Being honest can build trust, even when the answer is 'I don't know.'
  • Trust in Institutions. Distrust is overwhelming us, and we must decide the type of society we want to be.
  • Managing Public Perception. Leaders face criticism from faceless individuals online, impacting their reputation.

Tension

60/ 100Some tension

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