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Forensic Files - Season 9, Episode 23 - Saving Face - Full Episode

January 01, 2022 / 21:47

This episode discusses the mysterious disappearances of three women in Austin, Texas, including Olivia Estrada, Maria Flores, and Sylvia Garcia. It features insights from forensic experts and law enforcement about the investigation into their cases.

Olivia Estrada, 54, went missing in 1998 after an anonymous caller warned her family to check on her. Investigators found blood in her home and evidence of a struggle outside. The investigation led to a man named Martine Gonzalez, who had a history of violence and was linked to Olivia's disappearance.

Forensic anthropologist Dr. David Glassman and forensic artist Karen Taylor played crucial roles in identifying remains found in connection with the cases. Taylor's facial reconstruction helped identify Sylvia Garcia, who was married to Gonzalez and had filed for divorce before her disappearance.

After further investigation, the remains of Olivia Estrada and Maria Flores were also found, leading to Gonzalez being charged with three counts of first-degree murder. The episode highlights the use of forensic science in solving these cases.

Ultimately, Martine Gonzalez was convicted and sentenced to life in prison for the murders, with authorities believing there may be more victims linked to him.

TLDR

Three women disappeared in Austin, Texas, leading to Martine Gonzalez's conviction for their murders through forensic evidence.

Episode

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[Music] a woman in austin texas mysteriously disappeared without saying anything to
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her friends or family and she wasn't the only one two other women had also disappeared under similar
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circumstances a tooth a single hair an anthropologist and a forensic artist implicated a man
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who had killed before in another country [Applause] [Music] [Music] in 1998 54 year old olivia estrada was
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going through a very difficult time she had recently been divorced and was unemployed the only bright spot in her
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life was her family she was funny heart as big as texas or even bigger she just had compassion
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for everyone one night out of the blue a woman who refused to identify herself called
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olivia's family with a warning she said to go and check on your mother that something was wrong with her
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so family members went to investigate her car's there her keys are there her
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house is locked something happened that was against her will the type of door it was you had to lock
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it with a key when you went out so whoever left last locked it with a key her keys were inside by the time i
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got here my cousin who lives next door he had broken into the house to see if my mom
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was here and when i looked down the carpet was soaking wet like why is the carpet wet
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detective bob merrill found traces of blood in the water-soaked carpet an obvious sign of a hasty clean-up
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so at that point we're going to start investigating it as a homicide until you're no different
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outside in the carport next to olivia's car investigators found evidence of a
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struggle there was a ring by the tire and he says do you know whose ring that is and i said yeah
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that's my mom's ring so what's it doing out here there were traces of blood on the ring
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as well as on the inside of olivia's car but there were no foreign fingerprints
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the few clues we did have there at the house became very crucial the blood in the house the blood in the
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car the blood on the carport the bloody ring that was found in the carport those sort of became
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the factors that determined whether or not we would be able to turn this into a homicide case
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unfortunately investigators were not able to trace the anonymous call made to the estrada
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family it was strange that the woman was never identified who called she must have been
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scared to come forward i don't know the next day investigators took a second look around
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olivia's home tucked away in the bottom of a dresser drawer they found a photograph of olivia
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with an unidentified man and on the back of the photograph was written the name martine
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no one knew his last name no one knew where he was from no one knew anything about the man
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but olivia's daughter recalled speaking with martine on the telephone when she
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called to speak with her mother she said it was a bizarre conversation the only thing i remember he told me was
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that he wanted to marry my mother i don't even i mean she just met him and i said
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my mom will never marry you i said i don't know who you are who you think you are but my mom will never
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marry you investigators released the photograph to the media hoping that someone could identify him
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[Music] after olivia strata's disappearance police released the photograph of the
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unidentified man in the picture found in her home several callers identified the man as 47
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year old martine gonzalez an illegal immigrant from mexico who was working in austin texas as a laborer
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when questioned gonzales said he didn't know anything about olivia's disappearance
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when he was searched however investigators found the house key to olivia estrada's home
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at the time that mr gonzalez was picked up he had the only other key that anybody knew
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existed in his pocket so that was a very strong indicator that he was the last one to leave that house which
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would indicate that he had something to do with her leaving gonzalez said he had dated olivia
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casually but the last time he was at her home he said she was there with another man
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manuel barbosa they ended up getting to a fight emmanuel pulled a gun on him and he left
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and martine left manual stay but a check on barbosa's whereabouts showed this was impossible
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we checked out manuel and he happened to be in federal custody and for a long time
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and was not any anywhere near austin texas during that particular incident investigators searched their criminal
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database they discovered that gonzales had spent time in a mexican prison for murder
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the first murder was a fake deal got a man to meet him out in a desolate area and beat him to death and took his money
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when he got out of prison he killed another person in mexico and shortly thereafter came up here
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to texas and five months earlier gonzalez reported another girlfriend missing maria flores
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so it was really starting to connect that we were looking at more than one missing woman involved
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in his life investigators called what's known as the missing person's clearing house an
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organization that tracks missing persons reports with unidentified bodies found in texas
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and they found something three years before maria flores and olivia estrada disappeared another
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woman's body was discovered in a field just one block away from martine gonzalez's home
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that was a huge break i don't know that that connection would have been made
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without that call so who was this person forensic anthropologist dr david glassman
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examined the remains he noted blunt force trauma to the skull and most of the teeth were missing
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the size of the skull indicated the victim was female and the cranial sutures revealed her
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approximate age there were some of the sutures in the top of the head in the back of the head
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that were already fused on the external surface so from that i ascertained that she
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would have had to have been at least 35 years of age dr glassman also found evidence of the
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woman's race she had a condition which is called wormy and bones which are extra bones
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found in the suture in the back of the skull which we see very often in asians and native americans
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but without someone's dna or dental records for comparison investigators had
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no way to identify her to put a face with the bones investigators turned to forensic artist
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karen taylor since the skull was so fragile taylor decided against creating a forensic sculpture instead she used a
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technique she had developed called two-dimensional facial reconstruction taylor assumed the victim was hispanic
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and over 35 years old using anthropologic data taylor used rubber markers to show the
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appropriate tissue thickness which differs from race to race [Music] that forms a basis of the contours of
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the face so once the tissue depth markers are glued onto the skull then we literally connect the dots to
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develop the contours of the face taylor then photographed the skull and placed a piece of translucent vellum
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on top of the picture vellum is the finest type of parchment available usually made from calves skin
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taylor then started to draw the facial features in life-size the average human eye is about 25 millimeters in diameter
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that happens to be about the same size as the diameter of a us quarter so i'll often take a quarter and center
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it in the bony orbit of the skull and trace around it but the nose caused the most difficulty
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since it's made of cartilage that decomposes i look at the piriform aperture this
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pear-shaped nasal opening i had five millimeters on each side of the the opening of the nose
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and that gives me a sense of the width the angle can often be determined by analyzing the bone called the interior
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nasal spine we use that to measure and determine the projection of the nose there's a formula of three times the
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length of the nasal spine that is used for that projection since most of the teeth were missing
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taylor relied on the principle known as the facial triangle there is an equilateral triangle created
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between the two corners of the eye and the middle of the bottom of the lower lip and i thought aha that's going to
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help me to project how the mouth might have been positioned in that blank space on the skull
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taylor chose an appropriate hair color and an approximate weight then put the finishing touches on her work
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the incorporation of the proportional arrangement of features in a face is very important to the recognition
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factor taking place investigators released the forensic drawing to the media hoping to learn her
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identity and in so doing help solve a mystery just days after the forensic drawing
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appeared in the austin newspapers a family member called from mexico to say it looked like his mother 48 year old
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sylvia garcia she was none other than martine gonzalez's wife we got a call from sylvia's family
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saying that their mother had married him and had come up here and they'd never seen him or heard from her again
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or seen her again court records indicated sylvia garcia had filed for a divorce from gonzalez
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shortly before her disappearance when questioned gonzales denied having a wife and denied even knowing sylvia
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garcia he just perfects ignorance and it was unbelievable but inside gonzalez's home
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investigators found a photograph which bore a striking resemblance to the forensic drawing
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and that's when i really got excited because everything did seem to fit it was what i would expect to see
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the proportions were correct uh things did seem to fit once we got pictures we were we were convinced
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that that was sylvia is just proving it was the next problem to find out scientifically whether the
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skull was sylvia garcia's investigators discovered that sylvia mailed letters to her relatives in
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mexico and those letters might have sylvia's dna profile we looked at the envelope and saw that
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in fact the flap had either been licked or that the stamp had been licked and so
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i attempted to extract dna from the flap and from the stamp and i was able to generate a dna profile
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from the flap of the envelope i think it's very fascinating and also that her family would have saved those
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envelopes i mean how how many people save letters that somebody sent a couple of years ago and who would have thought
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that it would help solve a police investigation it's just it's just unbelievable
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for comparison criminalist jody kohler used tooth pulp found in one of the few molars still in the skull
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tooth pulp can be a rich source of dna a pcr dna test revealed the skull matched the dna extracted from sylvia's
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letters damn that was good you know you just never expected that to happen you hear
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it can happen it just had never happened for me until then i was very excited that we had actually
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identified this person because the skeletal remains were fairly old and so it was it was really a shot in the dark
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to be able to do this it was great when investigators re-examined the bed sheet that covered sylvia's body
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they noticed a single strand of hair in the knot since there was no root material
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investigators decided to perform a mitochondrial dna test now the unique difference with
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mitochondrial dna is it's only inherited from your mother and so men don't pass theirs on to their
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children this means that siblings in the same family or all maternal relatives in
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a family for example will share the same type the hair was first cleaned in an ultrasonic water bath to make sure no
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cells from another source adhered to it once the hair is thoroughly cleaned then
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we grind it up in a small glass grinder that is almost like a mortar and pestle apparatus
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this powders the hair into a liquid buffer and to this are added some chemicals that effectively purify the dna
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away from everything else in the hair and this same procedure was repeated on a hair sample from
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martine gonzalez the result the hair found with sylvia garcia's body belonged to martine gonzalez
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if you find a type that's never been seen before as was the case in this case
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you would be able to eliminate at least 99.96 percent of north americans as having that type
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his hair being with the remains was crucial to show that he was involved in her ending up in
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that vacant field with with trauma to the head martine gonzalez was arrested and
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charged with sylvia garcia's murder but the question remained where were the other two missing women
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olivia estrada and maria flores when martine gonzalez was in prison awaiting trial for the murder of his
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wife sylvia garcia investigators received a telephone call the farmer actually is a retired
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detective was clearing some area for a fence and he stumbled onto some bones in bastrop county
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dental records confirmed the remains were those of olivia estrada the 54 year old divorcee who was dating
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martine gonzalez around the time of her disappearance the skull showed signs of blunt force
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trauma as well as a gunshot wound i mean i still didn't really believe it and i said detective morrow is it her is
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it really her and he says yes and he and he had a tear in his eye less than a mile away
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in another deserted field investigators found the remains of the third missing woman maria flores
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she had also been dating martine gonzalez and it was he who reported her missing
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her skull showed evidence of blunt force trauma to the head martine gonzalez was charged with all
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three murders we had mitochondrial dna which had never been used in texas at that point we had
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other kinds of dna forensic anthropologists forensic dentists a multitude of civilian and law enforcement witnesses
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many of which were spanish speakers and the logistics of putting that case together were
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astounding prosecutors learned that gonzales frequented bars where he met vulnerable
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women some were illegal immigrants with no family or connection to austin others like olivia estrada were
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emotionally vulnerable she still loved my father i think she was just down on herself
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i really believe when she met him she was at her lowest that is the only way i could see that
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she would ever let a person like nothing in her life this man had a history of abusing women
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and charming them and choosing isolated women or most of them isolated and and then lying to them saying he owned land
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and becoming jealous and possessive [Music] prosecutors presented evidence that the
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motive in these murders was anger after having been rejected gonzalez refused to accept that these
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women no longer wanted him in their lives [Music] gonzalez's telephone conversation with
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olivia's daughter revealed he wanted to marry olivia but olivia told her daughter later she
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wanted no part of him i said mom what is he talking about he says he's going to marry she goes he's
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crazy i said i'm telling you what he just told me she says no he's crazy don't pay
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attention to him he doesn't know what he's talking about i'm like mom what are
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you doing it wasn't long after this incident that olivia disappeared in september 2000
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martine gonzalez was convicted of three counts of first degree murder and sentenced to the life in prison
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you left her you threw her away like she was garbage she wasn't martin she was not
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she was my mother his eyes are just void of any kind of human anything there's nothing there nothing
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that's human anyway to me it's just a monster he's just a truly evil person with no
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conscience i wish he was sitting on death row instead but he needs to be behind bars
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for the rest of his life to this day texas authorities remain convinced there are other victims linked to martine
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gonzalez victims they have yet to find without the forensic drawing investigators wouldn't have identified
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the skull found in the field i don't think he had any any perception of forensic art in
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his entire imagination but i bet he wishes he did it's just amazing that we can combine
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those types of science where she can do the facial reconstruction and then we can confirm her facial reconstruction
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using this type of dna technology an anthropologist friend of mine dr william maples was fond of saying
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patient and silent while we live our skeletons shout to heaven and posterity after we die and i think that's a
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wonderful um a wonderful quote it it says the same thing the dead can speak through facial reconstruction through
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forensic art [Music] [Applause] [Music] you

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Episode Highlights

  • The Mysterious Disappearances
    Three women vanish under similar circumstances, raising alarms in Austin, Texas.
    “She wasn't the only one; two other women had also disappeared.”
    @ 00m 13s
    January 01, 2022
  • A Bizarre Warning Call
    A mysterious woman warns Olivia's family to check on her, leading to a chilling discovery.
    “Go and check on your mother; something is wrong with her.”
    @ 01m 32s
    January 01, 2022
  • Martine Gonzalez's Arrest
    Martine Gonzalez is arrested and charged with multiple murders after a series of investigations.
    “Martine Gonzalez was charged with all three murders.”
    @ 17m 22s
    January 01, 2022
  • Forensic Breakthrough
    Forensic artists and anthropologists work together to reconstruct a victim's face, leading to identification.
    “The dead can speak through facial reconstruction.”
    @ 20m 59s
    January 01, 2022

Episode Quotes

  • She had a heart as big as Texas.
    Forensic Files - Season 9, Episode 23 - Saving Face - Full Episode
  • You left her, you threw her away like she was garbage.
    Forensic Files - Season 9, Episode 23 - Saving Face - Full Episode
  • The dead can speak through facial reconstruction.
    Forensic Files - Season 9, Episode 23 - Saving Face - Full Episode

Key Moments

  • Mysterious Disappearances00:07
  • Warning Call01:24
  • Chilling Discovery01:55
  • Forensic Breakthrough11:02
  • Arrest of Suspect17:22

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