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Forensic Files (HD) - Season 13, Episode 38 - Cold Feet - Full Episode

March 05, 2021 / 21:15

This episode covers the unsolved murder of convenience store employee Julie Estes, the investigation into her death, and the eventual breakthrough using forensic evidence. Key discussions include the timeline of events surrounding Julie's disappearance, the discovery of her body, and the challenges faced by investigators in solving the case.

Julie Estes was last seen working a late shift at a convenience store in Jacksonville, Florida. Her husband, Rod Estes, did not report her missing after a small argument, which raised suspicions. Police found her car abandoned and her body later discovered in the woods, leading to a complex investigation.

Investigators initially struggled with a lack of evidence, but years later, a cold case unit reopened the investigation. They connected Julie's case to other crimes in the area and identified a potential suspect, James Ellman, who was already incarcerated for a similar crime.

Forensic advancements eventually led to DNA evidence linking Ellman to Julie's murder. Despite his denial of involvement, he pleaded no contest to the charges and received a life sentence without parole.

The episode highlights the importance of forensic science in solving cold cases and the emotional impact on families affected by unsolved crimes.

TLDR

The murder of Julie Estes was solved 17 years later through DNA evidence linking James Ellman to the crime.

Episode

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[Music] up next the murder of a convenience store employee goes unsolved for years the case always
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bugged me we wanted to find the clown that did that police couldn't understand why the
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victim's husband didn't report her missing every time i hear them i didn't call it
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in because we had an argument i always wondered how can anyone believe this could new forensic testing solve
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a 20 year old case you got to treat every single case like it's the crime of the
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century [Music] [Music] when rod and julie este started their life together in jacksonville florida
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as husband and wife they had to figure out like most couples how to support themselves rod drove a
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truck for a plastics company but the only job 21 year old julie could find was working the late shift at a
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convenience store near their home she had graduated from high school but she was a recent transplant to the
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jacksonville area and needed that job to put food on her table convenience stores and gas
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stations were really the only things at night that were open that people would rob i imagine sitting in
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that convenience store without any kind of modern day surveillance or protection or panic button that
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she must have been fearful julie normally worked afternoons and evenings and closed the store
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at 11 pm but one night a customer noticed the store was closed at 10 30 a half hour earlier than the closing
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time posted on the door police were asked to check it out we shined our lights in the windows
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there was absolutely no signs of foul play nothing was disrupted nothing was overturned it just looked
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like somebody left the store so we went back to work and went about our normal shift
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the next morning the daytime clerk opened the store and discovered it had been robbed the
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floor safe had been open and appeared to be empty and and that the power appeared to have
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been cut off the night before according to the owners around 500 was missing from the safe
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police tried to find julie but she wasn't home surprisingly julie's husband said she
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never came home from work and he admitted he hadn't reported her missing he told
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me at that time that they had had a small argument before she left for work and i'm like well you didn't call the
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police when she didn't come home for you know eight hours every time i hear that story of somebody
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saying well i didn't call it in because we had an argument i always wondered
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how can anyone believe this later that morning four miles from the convenience store
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police found julie's car in the woods stuck in mud the key was still in the ignition
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one of our helicopters spotted blue camaro not a long distance away but in a wooded area that's known for
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vehicles dumped or parked or whatever out there they saw what they perceived to be drag
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marks leading away from the vehicle and then they followed the drag marks a few hundred feet from the car under
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some cardboard was julie's body julie's body was found with her arms tied
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behind her back with her very own shoelaces her shirt was pulled up with her breasts
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exposed her pants and panties were pulled down to her socks the details of the crime just really go
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right through you they make you realize how you know how much she really went through
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there was a 21 year old woman who on one hand wore a high school class ring on the other one her wedding ring
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julie's husband said he had an alibi one police had heard dozens of times over the years
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rod estes had explained that he was by himself all evening had watched a football game
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and had fallen asleep and no one was with him all night not the best alibi in the world if a
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policeman thinks you might be responsible for your wife's disappearance but that's all he had and investigators
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had another problem they suspected julie had been murdered elsewhere as investigators search for julieste's
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killer they began by looking for clues inside her car which was found stuck in mud in
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the woods near her body and the evidence told a story julie herself was a tall girl she was
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approximately five eight five nine the seat had been moved all the way up as if a shorter person
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had been driving it and so it was apparent that someone other than julie had been the last
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person to drive that car and in fact that that person probably was shorter and they also found blood drops in the
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trunk tests showed it was the same blood type as julie's an indication she was injured
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elsewhere placed in the trunk then driven to the woods initially they weren't sure
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whether that was the scene of the murder or that was simply a dump site that type
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of development makes investigation that much more difficult because now you've got two crime scenes
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to worry about unfortunately there were no foreign fingerprints found on or in the car and investigators found
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no usable footprints in the mud and dirt julie's purse was discovered at the
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scene with no money inside the convenience store's money bag was there but it too
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was empty julie's killer had removed the laces from her shoes to tie her hands
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but her shoes were missing julie's shoes were distinctive even back in 1985 because they were
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purple the next day investigators got a potential lead police got a call from a man who had
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been kind of scrounging around behind another convenience store when he came upon a purple pair of shoes
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the purple shoes were almost certainly julie's the laces were missing a bowling
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bag and some receipts with julie's name left no doubt the items were hers the site was just a half mile from the
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convenience store where julie was last seen alive we found evidence that things were taken out of the trunk of
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her car she was probably forced into the trunk then she was driven five or six miles away
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from there where her body was found normally the evidentiary value of the items would
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be significant but not this time the civilian that had found those items had at first
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taken them home this meant all the evidence at what may have been the murder site was compromised
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somebody's been there moving things around and it just makes the investigation a lot more difficult there
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was no physical evidence that at that particular time that could identify a killer
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in the meantime it didn't take long for investigators to eliminate julie's
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husband as a suspect when he was perfectly willing to take a polygraph examination
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kept in contact with the officers trying to work this case i think all suspicion was erased
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but julie's autopsy did provide some important information about the killer the medical examiner found
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evidence of sexual assault a rape test kit recovered biological evidence presumably
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of the perpetrator unfortunately dna testing wasn't yet available crimes in 1985 were a lot harder to
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solve just based on technology they're just certain things that we could yield dna profiles from today
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you wouldn't be able to get back then as the weeks went by and the number of leads started to
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dwindle investigators continued to search for julie's killer knowing full well they had no forensic
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evidence to identify him but it didn't stop them from trying at this particular time when this
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incident occurred some weird things were happening in that area seven months before
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julie's murder the body of a missing 15-year-old girl was discovered just three miles away
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her body was so badly decomposed the cause of death couldn't be determined and two months before julie's murder a
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ten-year-old girl was found dead hanging in a tree in the woods just two miles from julie's convenience
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store since these crimes happened within a radius of only three miles investigators had a hunch
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they might be connected we really wanted to find the clown that did that investigators wondered whether
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julieste's murder might be connected to several other crimes committed in the area
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unfortunately investigators had no evidence to link them right now by today's standard physical
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evidence is one of your your top factors in reviewing a case it's very significant very important
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they make the case with no leads no evidence and no suspects the trail of juliet's killer
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turned cold julie's family started to believe her murder would never be solved
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after a couple of years i just gave up i said well we're up here and they're down there and
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you know nobody cares the case always bugged me you know she went missing on my watch
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[Music] and it bugged me i mean every time i drove by that store i thought of her
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and it bugged me after a few years patrolman frank mccasey was promoted to chief of detectives
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with the power to recommend cases to the cold case unit mccasey had always had a strong desire
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to solve this case this is a case that had stuck with him and stuck in his mind through his whole career so when
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the cold case unit got involved they broadened their search they looked at every sexually motivated crime in the
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region and got a break just two months after julius d's murder 30 miles away in
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another jurisdiction there had been another convenience store crime almost identical to julie's except
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in this case the victim survived a 19 year old convenience store worker carla nobles had just closed the store and
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given a ride to a young man she met in the parking lot she voluntarily let him in the car
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having no idea what he was capable of she did a quick drive to the post office where he said he wanted to go
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before they got there the man pulled a knife [Music] forced her to drive to an isolated field
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and sexually assaulted her he then forced her to drive away she was sure he was going to kill her
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because she could identify him but then she saw the only chance to escape a police officer directing traffic
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what are you doing [Music] she just literally tries to run up there and get the officer's attention
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practically hitting the officer when he got to the car the abductor had a knife to carla's throat and so he pulled
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his revolver and the abductor dropped the knife the man was identified as james ellman he was convicted for the
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crime and was currently serving a 22-year sentence in a nearby prison and cold case
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investigators learned another startling coincidence ellman had a close connection to the ten-year-old girl
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found hanging in the tree near julie's store two months before julie's murder
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the ten-year-old was a half-sister of elman investigators now wanted to test the
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biological evidence collected from julie's rape test kit to see whether james ellmann
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was her killer but there was a risk the test would consume all of the evidence unfortunately sometimes you have to make
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a choice you might have to run the entire bit of sample but at the time you're thinking this is
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the best technology available investigators decided the gamble was worth it they consumed
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all of the semen that was contained in those slides trying to get results results that unfortunately never showed
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who the killer was this was a devastating setback it's just shocking it feels like you're hit with a
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ton of bricks then you've got to start over it's like going starting from scratch again but
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investigators refused to give up ellman has a rough history and people around james ellen tend to
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die unfortunately if elman was julie's killer there was no longer any dna to prove it
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they used up all the evidence and and found nothing uh that that brought them any closer to
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a suspect after years of searching for julie este's killer investigators were convinced they found
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him he was serving time in prison for a similar crime committed 30 miles away [Music]
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his name was james ellman ellman was the worst of the worst we talk about he's the poster child of
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eddie social it's a clue when the public defenders are afraid of him when the doctors are afraid of him when
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the people at the medical treatment facility are afraid of him but investigators wanted to be sure
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ellman was responsible for julie este's murder why because if he wasn't julie's killer was still on the loose
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no it's not always a hollywood ending sometimes you don't get any results
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cases still go unsolved so 16 years after julie's murder the jacksonville police department sent
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julie's clothes to the u.s army crime lab in forest park georgia one of the most sophisticated labs
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available the items evidence included socks and her shirt and jeans as well as other items from
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her sexual assault kit which included like fingernail scrapings and other swabs scientists there were discouraged all
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but one of the items had been analyzed and tested the socks had never been tested probably
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because nobody expected to find anything useful on them the idea that forensic evidence
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could have transferred onto julie's socks was remote nevertheless analyst brian higgins examined the socks
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with light sources that cause genetic material to fluoresce i was kind of like wow
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you know could these be actually semen stains i was kind of surprised actually because
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it's not one of the more common places we would find semen the areas were removed then analyzed
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with the new dna test that needed only a very small amount of genetic material when dna first started out you needed a
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lot of dna and they needed to be high quality dna nowadays it can be very degraded
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and we could have very limited quantities and still yield good results miraculously the test generated a
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mixture of two dna profiles one female and one male one was julie's dna the other
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was the dna of the killer they were able to identify that dna profile as the exact match
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to james ellman we were all ecstatic i mean it was unbelievable feeling and you know that's
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that's the reward of cold case when you have that piece that you never had before
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and you're able just to put that one thing together and you know you've got
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the entire case investigators confronted elman in prison with the evidence and i'm telling you that your dna is in
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the murder scene of this this this this murdered girl i'm telling you i wasn't there i don't
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know anything about this girl if you're not there how do you how does jen how does james helman seem to get in
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to get in the damn crime scene [Music] is a monster that now sits behind bars i always knew that there was going to be
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a day that they were going to say we got it this case is solved based on the dna
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evidence prosecutors believe james ellman was probably walking by the convenience store where julie estes
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worked around 10 30 and noticed there were no customers inside he shut off the store's electricity
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held juliet knife point forced her to open the safe then he made her drive a half mile away
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to an area behind an unoccupied store he used her shoelaces to tie her wrists then raped and killed her
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he removed items from julie's trunk to make room for her body elman drove to the woods where he hid
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her body under some cardboard the biological evidence from the attack was embedded in her cotton socks
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elman probably wanted to keep julie's car but it got stuck in the mud and he had
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to escape on foot authorities had plenty of suspicion but no evidence to charge element with his
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half-sister's murder but after 17 years there was plenty of dna evidence to charge him with julie
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estes rape and murder it just was unbelievable that it would be the socks that would
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hold the true identity of her killer and how would you want me to say what you really want me to say i guess i
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just asked for an explanation i mean you know how forensics works i can't give it to you
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well the only reasonable explanation is that you're involved in the murder no that's not true
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that's not true that's definitely not true faced with a possible death penalty ellman decided to plead no
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contest to julie este's rape and murder in return he was sentenced to life in prison
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with no possibility of parole the lesson for criminals would be no matter how long ago you did
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the crime the forensic has a capability of solving it if it wasn't for forensics in this case
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i you know the dna and everything i i don't think that they would ever solve
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it we always talked about if we ever got out we were just going to have to we'd
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be counting bodies he was we believed he was that bad you got to treat every single case like it's the crime of
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the century and what i mean by that is you got to make sure that you you don't take
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any evidence for granted

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Episode Highlights

  • The Unsolved Murder of Julie Estes
    Julie Estes, a convenience store employee, goes missing and is later found murdered. Investigators struggle to find her killer for years.
    “The case always bugged me, you know?”
    @ 10m 19s
    March 05, 2021
  • Breakthrough in Forensics
    Years later, DNA evidence from Julie's socks leads to the identification of her killer, James Ellman.
    “It was unbelievable feeling... you’ve got the entire case.”
    @ 17m 13s
    March 05, 2021

Episode Quotes

  • The case always bugged me, you know?
    Forensic Files (HD) - Season 13, Episode 38 - Cold Feet - Full Episode
  • Every single case like it's the crime of the century.
    Forensic Files (HD) - Season 13, Episode 38 - Cold Feet - Full Episode

Key Moments

  • Missing Person00:15
  • Discovery of Body03:30
  • DNA Breakthrough16:49
  • Arrest of Suspect19:49
  • Life Sentence20:34

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