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Forensic Files - Season 8, Episode 30 - Flower Power - Full Episode

December 16, 2021 / 22:08

This episode covers the murder of Pamela Sweeney, the investigation involving her boyfriend Larry Fleck and co-worker Patrick Walsh, and the forensic evidence that led to Walsh's conviction.

Pamela Sweeney, a secretary from Minneapolis, was found murdered in her home in 1991. Her boyfriend, Larry Fleck, discovered her body and called the police. Simultaneously, Patrick Walsh, a co-worker, also called to report something was wrong, leading to a complex investigation.

Both men had unusual stories regarding their presence at the scene. Fleck claimed he ran from the house after discovering Pamela's body, while Walsh stated he drove by and wanted to check on her. Investigators found bloodstains on both men, but evidence pointed more towards Walsh, who had a history of harassment against Pamela.

Forensic evidence, including a candy wrapper and vegetation found on Walsh's clothing, linked him to the crime scene. The investigation revealed that Walsh had planned the murder after Pamela rejected his advances.

Ultimately, Patrick Walsh was convicted of first-degree murder and sentenced to life in prison, with the evidence against him being overwhelming.

TLDR

Patrick Walsh was convicted of murdering Pamela Sweeney after forensic evidence linked him to the crime scene.

Episode

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[Music] two different men called police to report the same murder apparently neither one knew that the
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other had called the investigation uncovered even more unusual circumstances but a few tiny seeds and a discarded
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candy wrapper were more than just insignificant clues they told a story of revenge
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[Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] like many divorced people pamela sweeney
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hoped she'd find someone to share her life with construction worker larry fleck was the
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man she set her sights on we were planning on getting married we're talking about probably moving out
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of minneapolis at one time i don't know we're just just having a good time the two of us
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she was a little kid full of life and uh i don't know how really how to explain
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it she just made the house light up pamela worked as a secretary for a computer company outside minneapolis
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the most important thing in her life was her five-year-old son tony on the friday before memorial day in
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1991 pam told her parents she wasn't feeling well and asked if they could take care
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of her son overnight she told them she was just going to take a bath and go to bed but before she did
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she spoke with her boyfriend she says what time are you getting off tonight i was well i got to work pretty late
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it's going to be late she says well i want you to come over i said it's going to be really late
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she says i want you to come over tonight flex says he arrived at pam's house
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around three o'clock in the morning when he looked into pam's bedroom he
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knew something was terribly wrong i seen [Music] spot of blood up on the headboard
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uh oh my goodness and and the bed she was laying across the crossways all wrapped up rolled up in a
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blanket i didn't want to do it but i took the covers i rolled him back and there she was
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laying fleck ran to a neighbor's house to call police she's cut all the hell
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okay hold on just a second less than two minutes later as police were on their way they got another
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telephone call this one from one of pam's co-workers patrick walsh okay what's the problem
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[Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] we had two males calling in stating that
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a female they had known something terrible had happened to her and they needed the police
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when questioned both men had unusual stories to tell larry fleck said pam invited him and
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that he ran from her house because he thought the killer was still inside [Music]
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patrick walsh said he drove by pam's house on his way home from a local bar he said the lights were on and he wanted
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to check on her because she had been out sick that day at work police now had a dead woman and two men
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at the house at three o'clock in the morning [Music] investigators hope forensic evidence
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would sort through what was to become a very complicated tale when pam sweeney was found murdered in
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her own bed police had to deal with a highly unusual situation two men were at the scene they didn't
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know each other but both knew the victim everybody's a suspect and when they got
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out there they had patrick walsh he's a suspect he's secured he's handcuffed
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they processed the scene larry fleck was at the neighbor's house another officer
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went there to secure him pam sweeney had been shot four times stabbed four times
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and her clothing had been partially removed you go numb you just you a thug like your heart hits the
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bottom your stomach and you don't know what's you it's just like there's a humming
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going on in your head you don't know what's going on around you pam's parents were asked who they
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thought might have killed their daughter and they had a ready answer you know i thought her ex-husband was
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the one that done it he had 30-something weapons in the house he tried to he tried to be a big gun
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collector and he had some big guns so we i first thing i thought was well since it's pam it's got to be mike
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at pam's home there were no signs of forced entry and there was another clue
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that pam knew her killer we believe after he completed the final blow and she was dead and he saw the
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dead body he in an act of contrition covered the body completely it was completely covered we think he did that
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so as not to see what he did to cover it up out of sight out of mind the murder weapons could not be found in
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the house but as the sun rose investigators saw a path in the dew that had settled on the
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lawn it led to a wooded area behind the house officers got on their hands and knees
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and went through that backwoods inch by inch back there was found a knife which had
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been stuck into the ground right to the handle and a small revolver was found lodged
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under some loose boards that were laying behind the shed the knife matched a set of kitchen
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knives inside the house the pistol was the same caliber as the one used in the crime
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both had been wiped clean of blood and fingerprints in front of pam's home investigators found the clue first
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thought to be insignificant in patrick walsh's truck police found a candy wrapper the same
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candy was found in pam sweeney's kitchen but this brand of candy had a lot number
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on the wrapper when police compared the lot number on the candy and pam's house with the
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rapper in walsh's truck it was a match so we drew an inference from that that
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this guy while he was there was calm enough actually to take one of those bags of candy out of the drawer needed
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but this was inconsistent with walsh's story he said after he found pam's body he
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called police then ran outside to his car to try to get help if this were true would he have stopped on his way out of
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the house to grab a piece of candy [Music] perhaps the most bizarre incident in the
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case was that walsh's car was stuck in a ditch next to pam's driveway walt said
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he accidentally drove into the ditch when going for help both patrick walsh and pam's boyfriend
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fleck had what appeared to be bloodstains on their trousers and they both had plausible explanations
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both men said they were close to pam's body when each discovered she was dead
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but walsh's clothing held a possible clue during the time that patrick walsh was
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being processed at the jail they of course removed all of his clothing and his shoes and socks and we
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on the back of his shirt located a leaf and in his shoes we located a number of different types of vegetation
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investigators wondered whether this vegetation was enough to identify a killer while investigating the murder of 35
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year old pamela sweeney police had three suspects pam's ex-husband her boyfriend and her
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co-worker police learned that pam's ex-husband was with friends on the night of the murder
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and was eliminated as a suspect pam's boyfriend also denied any involvement they asked questions like
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how long i knew her if i always come over there that time of night you know why so late in the
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evening i show up this person's house and basically asked me if i did and i said no you know i'm in love with this
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person why would anybody want to do something like that to someone you know [Music]
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when patrick walsh's name came up as a suspect in pam's murder her family and friends said they weren't
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surprised he did harass her on the job he harassed her on the telephone for six months
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night and day she did call the police but there was nothing they could do her pastor thomas braun
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got a call from her a few months before the murder there was great amount of fear in her
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voice she was she was beyond herself she couldn't think straight um emotionally
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physically she was she was a wreck walsh was married and worked as a supervisor in the same company as pam
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she told friends that walsh asked her out on numerous occasions and wouldn't
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take no for an answer he also stopped by her home unannounced and performed various household chores
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without being asked in an attempt to win her affections he had been stalking her
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for months obsessed with her physically and in his mind and his entire being she's never talked to me about she's
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never said somebody was taunting her following her things like that she'd never said a word
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to me pam did however go to the police but they told her walsh hadn't broken the
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law and there was nothing they could do in their search for evidence investigators focused on the vegetation
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found on walsh's clothes and shoes walsh said it probably got there when he walked across pam's front lawn towards
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his car this gave police an idea we did something i had never done before we contacted the university of minnesota
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and we asked for a taxonomist a forensic taxonomist a taxonomist is an expert in living
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organisms dr anita chalowa examined the various bits of leaves grass and other vegetation from walsh's clothing
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there was lawn grass there was crab grass and the oddball things there were some seeds of quackgrass
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quackgrass is a common weed and it rarely produces seed since people usually mow it before it gets to the
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flowering stage this meant that the cracked grass seeds on walsh's clothing were rare and
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unusual dr challawa also discovered another species on walsh's clothes seeds from an
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aspen tree which are called bracts aspen is fairly common in minnesota but it's not the sort of thing that you'd
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see in someone's backyard the combination of an aspen seed and quack grass told dr chalawa that patrick
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walsh had been in a wooded area with high weeds dr chalawood didn't find any quack grass
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or aspen bracks around walsh's home [Music] dr chalowa discovered an area behind
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pamela's shed that was untended and overgrown there was a lot of quack grass in there
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a number of other things too but the quack grass was and it had clearly been flowering and
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fruiting in that woodlot she also found numerous aspen brats the area dr chalua identified was the
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exact spot where investigators found the murder weapons [Music] she was convinced the specimens on
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washer's clothing were relatively fresh it wouldn't have attached itself to him
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for long periods of time that it had to be something real recent in order to still be
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attached to his pants and stuck in his shoes but this was far from conclusive evidence
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so police turned to a more traditional crime science they analyzed the blood spatter at the crime scene
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walsh said he briefly shook pam's body to see if she was alive before he ran
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from her room but the blood on his clothing told a different story the staining was consistent with him
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coming in contact with a large amount of her blood on his pants leg and stains consistent with spatter being found on
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him which would indicate that he had been in close proximity when she was being stabbed
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and the size and shape of the spatter indicated the blood hit walsh's pants from a blood-covered object that had
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been in motion investigators found similar blood spatter on the ceiling above the bed
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these were perfectly circular indicating the blood went straight up from the impact site
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the blood spatters give us a fairly good idea of where she may have been and also
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the nature of the tank and how violent it was how brutal it was and how the knife was wielded i could look at the
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blood stain patterns on the walls and determine the site where this impact took place and this was
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right on the bed where she was found and it indicated that that's exactly where
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she was attacked on the bed she was stabbed in the bedroom but shot elsewhere there was a blood trail leading to the
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bedroom from the foyer and bullets were found in the floor this was where pam sweeney was shot
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we believe she was probably shot first in the lower levels of the house and dragged her carried upstairs
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and then stabbed in her bedroom and died most likely from from the stab wounds not the gunshot wounds
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a blood stain on walsh's pants was consistent with carrying a bleeding person
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the forensic evidence also explained why patrick walsh called police to report the murder
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patrick walsh in a panic attempting to leave the scene of this killing got in his pickup truck
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miscalculated the driveway and drove into the ditch it's now three o'clock in the morning he
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just murdered a young woman and his pickup truck is hopelessly stuck in a ditch what do you do
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a week before her death pam sweeney told her family she couldn't find a set of house keys and was
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considering changing her locks on the day of her murder the keys resurfaced in the front seat of patrick walsh's
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black pickup truck lo and behold was pamela sweeney's stolen keys so there was a direct connection he never really
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explained how it got there police believe walsh stole the keys while he and pam were at work proof they said
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that he planned the attack about a week before the killing he had called up an ex-girlfriend and
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wanted to get his 22 caliber handgun returned he had loaned it to her earlier he
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wanted it back he claimed it was for an elk hunting trip he was going to make but that was
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we found out later not planned for eight months down the road so we believe he was actively engaged in
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planning this well before the day of the killing [Applause] inside walsh's home
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police found a number of 22-caliber shells those were sent to the fbi laboratory
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for neutron activation analysis they were able to identify that the lead compositions in the lead fragments that
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we found in miss wiene's skull matched the lead compositions that were in the shells
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found in mr walsh's apartment a few years earlier walsh was allegedly involved in eight
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assault cases with other women and was a suspect in a previous murder [Applause]
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[Music] prosecutors believe when pam sweeney rejected walsh's advances he sought revenge
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our belief was that that just infuriated him i think he took the view in his sick
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twisted psychotic mind how dare you reject me when i have been doing all of these overtly kind acts for
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you how dare you the evidence suggests walsh entered pam's home around 11 pm
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while pam was asleep but she must have heard someone inside and made her way to the hallway
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where she confronted walsh there was an argument walsh fired twice into the floor
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possibly to scare her the next four shots hit pamela sweeney walsh carried her to the bedroom
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then stabbed her to death causing the blood spatter on the ceiling and on his clothes then
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covered the body a tell-tale clue that the killer was someone pam knew the evidence suggests walsh stayed long
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enough to have a can of soda and grab a piece of candy and when he went to his car
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he left the candy wrapper on the seat beside him but he accidentally drove his car into a
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ravine on the side of the driveway and couldn't get it out walsh then went back inside the house in
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the basement to look for something to get his car free then a surprise [Music] pam's boyfriend larry fleck arrived
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after work when fleck discovered the murder he ran to a neighbor's home for help
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[Music] walsh had to act quickly he tried again to move his car but couldn't so he had
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to remove the evidence the botanical evidence on his pants proved walsh ran into the high grass and
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woods behind pam's home to dump the murder weapons when he returned and knowing police
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would find his car walsh had no choice but to call police himself to make it appear as if he too had driven by and
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found pam dead it was clear to me that the suspect had been in that woodlot i don't see how he
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could have acquired that material any other way based on what the investigating officers
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knew of where he had been at the time of the crime and the previous 24 hours i guess the irony of it is in
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going to that location and and picking up those soil samples and the seeds from the local trees he did put himself right
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at the very spot he was trying to hide evidence that he didn't want to be connected to so
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i think that's that's fairly significant seven months after pamela sweeney's
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death patrick walsh went to trial for first degree murder the sheer volume of forensic evidence
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against him was overwhelming it's amazing when you're prosecuting a first-degree murder case and you have a
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thousand puzzles and you're convinced that you have the right person it is amazing how those pieces of the puzzle
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start to fall together fitting perfectly patrick walsh was found guilty and sentenced to life in prison
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patrick walsh is a psychopath and perhaps the most dangerous man i have ever seen
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i favor the death penalty but then again from what i hear what's happening to him once in a while in
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prison [Music] i think he's probably got a harder time right now being alive
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than being dead [Music] [Music] you

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Episode Highlights

  • The Unusual Circumstances
    Two men reported Pamela's murder without knowing each other had called the police.
    “Two different men called police to report the same murder.”
    @ 00m 09s
    December 16, 2021
  • Pamela Sweeney's Murder
    Pamela Sweeney was found murdered in her own bed, leading to a complex investigation.
    “They told a story of revenge.”
    @ 00m 36s
    December 16, 2021
  • Forensic Evidence Unveiled
    Investigators uncovered significant forensic evidence linking Patrick Walsh to the crime scene.
    “The sheer volume of forensic evidence against him was overwhelming.”
    @ 20m 50s
    December 16, 2021

Episode Quotes

  • I think he’s probably got a harder time right now being alive than being dead.
    Forensic Files - Season 8, Episode 30 - Flower Power - Full Episode

Key Moments

  • Murder Discovery02:26
  • Police Calls03:14
  • Forensic Breakthrough04:17
  • Trial Verdict21:10

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