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Once Bieber ended, we took an hour to
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find my daughter and her friends.
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Finally found them, got them in the
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cars, and then it was 2 and 1/2 hours to
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leave the parking lot
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>> just to get out. So, we didn't get to
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bed till like 5:00 a.m. I remember the
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very first church chat. I remember
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exactly where I was. You
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>> serious?
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>> 100%.
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Can we talk about Carcenio really quick?
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>> Sure.
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>> Sure. Because Carinio,
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that was deep into your run, but I
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remember being like, "Holy shit." And we
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realized we were both big YouTube fans
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>> and no one else really wanted to talk
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about it with us. Like our wives were
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sick of hearing about YouTube. I
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remember shooting a scene uh at a dinner
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table and John C. Riley and I kind of
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started improvising and going back and
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forth and it just started sort of
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flowing and it was really fun, really
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funny. And after cut, I remember we
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looked at each other and he was like,
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"See there, that was fun, right?"
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Okay, so we had Adam Scott on Dana and
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uh
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>> pretty cool dude. Very interesting. Uh
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obviously the big one is severance right
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now
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>> which you have watched and I tried to
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explain him. I thought it was like the
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office. It is not.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Yeah. He he he breaks down severance for
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us in a way that David and uh others of
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his ill.
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>> Yeah. I said tell me let's say I'm a
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two-year-old.
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>> Yeah. Let's say I'm a baby in a baby
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creat.
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>> Tell me about seven. How would I get it?
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Uh, also obviously famously in some
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biggies like Step Brothers, um, does
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comedy, does drama,
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>> does good-looking.
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>> Yeah, he's a he's an uh extra extra nice
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person, very humble, and uh likes to
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laugh a lot and and he asked us some
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questions, too. So, we always like that.
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But yeah, he's an absolute delight and
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we talk about Big Little Lies. We talk
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about obviously what
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>> Parks and Wreck. We We try to get him to
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make fun of Rob Low.
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>> Yeah. And his new scary movie that
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sounds really cool coming out. Yeah. And
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we talk about Rob Low and his
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handsomeness effect and stuff like
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>> what's his new movie?
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>> Hulum. Hulum. So anyway, I hardly knew.
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Enjoy this podcast.
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>> Yeah, it is very scary. The trailer is
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scary. The movie's scary. We try to
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break down what it's like to do a horror
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film.
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>> Uh here he is. Adam Scott,
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>> are you in witness protection right now?
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>> I mean,
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>> it's fine. We've had it before, Adam,
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but uh you're you're definitely on the
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run, right?
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>> I am.
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>> Are you on the Are you doing re-shoots
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for Hokum? I thought it
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>> Thank you for joining me. This is great.
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>> Hold on. I have to turn on a light.
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>> Yeah, let's get Let's light you up. How
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about that?
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>> Well, let's get the union. Grievance.
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Grievance. more time to fix my hair.
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>> You know, Dana, if you move something on
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the set, it's a grievance to the union
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if they don't do it.
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>> Ah,
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always yell grievance on set. It's
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funny. I like get the curtains open.
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>> Let's wake it up.
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>> There we go. Isn't this nice?
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>> Wow.
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>> What? You have earphones in or I can't
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see what you got in.
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>> I have uh AirPods.
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>> He's a pro.
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>> Have you seen those before? They're
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>> They're really cool.
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>> I'm not always out at the parties. I
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don't know what AirPods are.
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in a pod. You know when you fly and you
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have a pod. That's my pod.
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>> By the way, I went to Coachella.
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>> I brought my daughter to Coachella.
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We in the first weekend. Did you guys
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didn't go, did you?
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>> Wait, this Coachella was
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>> I want to hear about this. Yeah, I
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didn't go.
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>> Oh, cool. What happened?
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>> It is I hadn't been in 23 years or
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something. Dude, it is a nightmare. H.
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>> That's exactly what I thought it would
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be.
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>> Oh, a a nightmare.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Anyway, it just way too old to go to
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[ __ ] Coach.
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>> It's like Burning Man with music kind
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of, but that has music. It seems like
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what? How many ouses? How many outouses?
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Five.
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>> So many like fleets of toilets.
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>> Okay, let's tell the audience. Coachella
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is at a polo field three hours out of LA
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already starting on an inconvenient
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foot.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Then when I went
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>> I went to actually Old Chella which was
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remember
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>> Oh, you did see I went with Paul
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McCartney and Bob Dylan and Neil Young.
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>> Rolling Stones. That sounds good.
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>> Unrealc.
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>> Rolling Stones.
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>> But but your the one I went to was three
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nights were McCartney, Stones, and The
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Who and then they did it again.
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>> Um but it was the walking alone. I don't
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know if it's still that way, but you
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can't get near the [ __ ] place.
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>> No. And we once Bieber ended, we took an
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hour to find my daughter and her
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friends, finally found them,
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>> got them in the cars. And then it was
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two and a half hours to leave the
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parking lot
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>> just to get out. So, we didn't get to
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bed till like 5 a.m.
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>> Just after just so people know, it's not
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hyperbole. 2 and 1/2 hours. You get in
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your car, it's 2 and 1/2 hours before
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you exit the parking.
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>> Two and a half hours till we inching out
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like out of
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>> I know. I get it. But you think an hour,
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maybe 90, but three hours sitting still
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for an hour and a half and then inching
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along for another hour
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>> and that was like the VIP parking or
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whatever, which is gross.
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>> Best of the best of the best. That's the
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funniest part. What about Did you stay
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>> in uh Madison Club? Where do you stay
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even out there?
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>> We stayed we had like an Airbnb
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house that we actually it was like a got
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through a friend or something. So we had
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like a a house for you know bedrooms for
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my daughter and our friends and
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it was and then the nights we just went
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to pick them up and didn't even go to
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the show. We only went one night because
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we were like forget it. Just the even
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that was impossible just going to pick
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them up.
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>> How would you ever meet someone and find
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where they were?
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>> No. And no phones work because
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everyone's trying to use their phone. So
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phones do not work. So there's no way to
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communicate.
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>> Yeah. They just completely shut down
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on everybody.
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>> Doesn't it sound fun?
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>> Did you It does sound kind of fun. But
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did you have any moment where the hair
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stood up in the back of your neck like
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this is worth it? Look at this [ __ ]
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show.
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You know,
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>> I was there. I I was really happy to see
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The Strokes and really happy to see
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David Burn and
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>> he was great.
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>> Um
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>> Yeah.
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>> And then the Justin Bieber show was very
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was impressive the set and he was
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charismatic. I just you know my daughter
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and wife and all my they love him. So
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>> sure. Uh that was uh it was uh I mean so
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many people like
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hundreds of thousands of people.
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>> It's too much. It's worth
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>> [ __ ] nuts.
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>> And they love Bieber. Did he come out in
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his boxers or did he put a hoodie on or
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what did he do?
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>> He had uh like these shorts, leather
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shorts, and then boots. So there ended
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up being about this much leg between the
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shorts and the boots.
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>> Yeah, I saw I've seen that look.
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>> Uh yeah, he did it. I thought he did a
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great job actually.
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>> Did you know how many songs roughly
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>> for Justin Bieber?
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>> Yeah.
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>> I don't know.
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>> I don't know how many I knew.
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>> I I Oh, that that I knew.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Oh, two maybe.
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>> Lots of low pieces.
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>> He's got his own charisma now. That's
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sort of like
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>> there was this troubled time, I guess,
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or he's been around and there's a sense
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like you don't know what he's going to
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do. Yeah, like exa exactly like what he
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did at the Grammys or whatever. He just
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came out. So there's something about him
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that's very brings you in. You're like
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what's going on with this?
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>> It was fascinating too cuz he's like a
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legacy. It's been like 20 years now. So
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all these people the audience just had
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feelings, you know, like these people
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grew up with him. So it was
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>> and he he was really a good performer
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and really kind of disciplined and
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charismatic. I thought it was really
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interesting and really good.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Yeah. I thought what he did was a cool
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idea and also with all the crazy stuff
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in quotes going on with the record
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industry and all the things and
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>> all the people involved and he was in
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the middle of it like everyone has a
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sort of pulls for him going
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>> what what have you been through like
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what is the life of Bieber even though
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he's got all the money in the world and
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>> and all the fame and
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>> the girls still love him and you think
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you'd grow out of that and he he hasn't.
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they still go crazy for.
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>> Yeah. And he he was so young when he
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started that I can't even imagine going
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through all of that at that age. But
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then also the the YouTube thing where he
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went on a computer and
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>> like kind of surfed YouTube with the it
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kind of brought this like intimacy and
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kind of I thought it was pretty pretty
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smart way to do it. That's charismatic
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because you was playing a YouTube like
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we all do at home and yet there's
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100,000 people out there. Hey, listen
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this one, you know, and so that's also
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very makes.
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>> He and I have had the same sort of
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>> career exact
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>> trajectory. Yeah.
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>> Yeah. I I sometimes call him beeps part
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two, you know. It's just a friendly name
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of my boxers on stage when I do stand
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up.
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>> That's right.
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>> Can I a keyboard?
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>> Yeah.
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>> My 20 second Bieber story. Yeah. So, I
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think I was either hosting or whatever,
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but Bieber was maybe 14 or 15 and he's
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somehow on SNL
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>> and Lauren, we should have a church chat
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with Bieber. But his mom was very
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religious. So, we had a meeting in
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Lauren Michael's office with Justin and
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myself and Lauren and and his and had to
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kind of convince her that it's not
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satanic because the church lady gets a
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little hot and bothered in her PG-13
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way.
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>> She sure does. Cute. She does. That's
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what we're all waiting for.
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>> We want that, Adam.
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>> I am a man in a dress, you understand?
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>> But we want it's why we tune in.
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>> But Bieber was so good at it. He his
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acting was fantastic and he was funny
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and Yeah. Anyway, so that's my Bieber
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story.
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>> You know, Adam, when I watch church
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chat,
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>> Yeah.
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>> And I wasn't on SNL, but I'm at home.
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I'm always thinking, I hope this guy
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[ __ ] up and says something that will
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irritate the church lady.
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>> Oh. Oh. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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>> So then the church lady will start to
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get mad and bring up Satan.
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>> Oh yeah. That's that's what
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>> almost always happens.
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>> But also I remember the very first
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church church chat. I remember exactly
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where I was.
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>> Serious 100%. because it was so clear
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this was a brand new era of SNL
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starting. It was so crystal clear. I was
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in middle school and we were watching
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the brand new Was it the very f your
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very first episode? The very first
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episode of the cast. Yeah.
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>> Yeah. And Phil, we had Phil Hartman in
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there and Sigourney Weaver was the
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>> uh the host. So, and Victoria Jackson
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>> came out and did this whole and I try
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and Jesus and this and that. Pause,
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pause, pause. Well, isn't that special?
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First time I said it on TV and I got a
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big laugh and went,
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>> "Yeah."
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>> But, uh, that was just lucky because it
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was at home base and it involved a lot
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of the cast. So it was like a a perfect
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thing for our show, you know, because
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guests were coming on. Sean Penn and
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tried to beat me up and I beat him up,
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you know, stuff like that. So it was a
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moment in time, but I guess you were at
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the age where you could see it from
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young eyes.
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>> Well, it it was it was immediately that
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Monday at school, everyone was saying,
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"Isn't that special?" And Satan did did
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you say did was say Satan was in that
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first
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>> Yeah. Yeah. Church chat, too. Told you
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that Satan something like that, right?
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>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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>> Yeah. I don't know. Lauren thought the
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reverb was a bit much. I don't know why
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>> the reverb is key. It has to echo. It
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has to echo back.
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>> And for a while, Lauren, shouldn't she
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have a a proper name, you know? And so,
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for one episode, she was Enid Strick. No
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one knew what that meant. It took and
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then that went away and then it was
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right.
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>> I don't remember that. the church lady.
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Like I thought the cone heads, the
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church lady. I don't know.
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>> I like they wind up and go.
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>> Well, I wonder where you acquired that
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information. I thought
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>> Well, could it be is the wind up?
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>> Yeah. Well, could it be? And then the
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leap
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>> jump in.
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>> Yeah. You lurch.
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>> Yeah. There's kind of a turn towards
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them, right?
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>> Oh, yeah. Wind up. Wind up. and then
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lurching. You know, it's hard on the
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director to get that properly. You know,
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that timing of that.
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>> Let's run it again and dress.
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>> Anyway, welcome to uh Church SL Church
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Chat the podcast where we go over every
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episode of Church Chat. My guest today
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is
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>> uh what would you like to talk? Okay,
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I'll give you topics.
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>> There's obviously severance. I've heard
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of it. I guess it's doing well. Uh
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>> oh, good, good. Go ahead,
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>> Dana. Let me tell him that I'm so I
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naively
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and stupidly and adorably thought
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Severance was going to be like The
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Office.
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>> Oh, like a like a comedic sort of
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>> Yeah, like a goofy comedic. And I was
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watching it going,
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>> "Sure."
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>> Huh?
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>> Wait a second.
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>> This is different. Severance has a great
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weird book. It's a smart show. I'll
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leave it at that.
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>> Satan. Dana, what are you doing?
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>> Yeah. Is it Satan? I was doing
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>> you're doing me watching it.
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>> I love it. I mean I was you know look
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looking at the origins of it and just
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one of the co-producers are he was
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working in a cubicle on a show and sort
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of the sort of life suck of that of what
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am I doing and
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>> and it sort of came from there in this
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work life balance there's all this a lot
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of interesting things beneath the actual
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characters acting and stuff. So
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>> yeah, I think also it it came out in
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February of 2022, right, when
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>> sort of everybody was just getting back,
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you know, kind of going back to work or
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staying home and kind of that whole
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culture was defining itself as the show
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came on. So I think it also struck some
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sort of a chord with people figuring out
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their work life balance as we were
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>> because they there was everyone took a
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year off kind of in the peak of co it
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was a shutdown and then you and then you
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sent you. It's called Flying the Wall.
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Can you explain sort of that hook of
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when you go to work in the elevator?
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>> Yeah,
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>> I know. I was any any and audi and
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implants. Anyway, go ahead.
00:17:43
>> Yeah. Um, any Audi implants. That should
00:17:46
have been the tagline. Any Audi
00:17:49
implants.
00:17:52
Um
00:17:53
the uh yeah the it was like it was it
00:17:56
was January in 2017 when Ben Stiller you
00:18:01
guys know obviously he called me and
00:18:03
just sort of told me the basic idea of
00:18:06
it which is there's a procedure you can
00:18:10
have done where you get a chip in your
00:18:11
head and when you go to work you have no
00:18:14
idea who you are in the outside world.
00:18:16
Uh, and then when you leave work, you
00:18:18
have no idea who you were or what you
00:18:21
did at work. So, your lives, your life
00:18:24
is split into
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>> two separate tracks.
00:18:27
>> Great setup.
00:18:28
>> Yeah. It's
00:18:29
>> Yeah. It's such a great simple idea.
00:18:32
It's like a great Twilight Zone episode
00:18:34
or something like
00:18:35
>> Yes. And you understand it easily.
00:18:38
>> Yeah.
00:18:38
>> And uh and when he So, he calls you
00:18:41
which is must be very flattering.
00:18:44
>> Yes. very um you know I think I remember
00:18:48
he called me and he may have been on a
00:18:52
trip with you David. I think you guys
00:18:55
were January 2017. I think you guys were
00:18:59
like on a trip with like Sandler and
00:19:03
those guys doing I don't know. I I
00:19:06
>> we might have been at the Netflix skiing
00:19:09
thing where we all went
00:19:10
>> Oh, maybe that's what it was. Maybe
00:19:11
that's what it was. Um, which uh I just
00:19:16
remember because I was at Sundance and I
00:19:19
had to step outside to take the call and
00:19:21
I was standing in snow while he was kind
00:19:24
of telling me this weird idea
00:19:26
>> uh of this uh Dan Ericson's idea and uh
00:19:30
so I just and I remember the Muslim ban
00:19:33
had just happened so that was on TV
00:19:35
inside which is why I had to stay. So
00:19:37
anyway, it was just like a marker in
00:19:38
time. I remember exactly
00:19:41
uh what day it was.
00:19:42
>> I remember because I saw him and I said,
00:19:45
"Do you have any show ideas?" And he
00:19:46
said, "No, by the way, do you have a
00:19:48
phone? I need to call Adam Scott."
00:19:50
>> That's right. So, you're just an
00:19:52
integral part of it
00:19:54
>> from the very start.
00:19:55
>> Nothing on your mind for anything we
00:19:57
could do together. He goes, "No."
00:19:58
Anyway, I got to make this call.
00:20:00
>> That's right. And uh but how how how fun
00:20:03
to first of all Ben who's a super smart
00:20:04
guy and proves it again because the show
00:20:08
I feel like immediately was a kind of an
00:20:11
interesting hit.
00:20:13
>> Yeah.
00:20:14
>> Oh yeah.
00:20:15
>> Yeah. Which was a a huge surprise to us
00:20:18
because it kind of felt like you know
00:20:21
you never know if something's gonna
00:20:24
>> work or not um
00:20:27
>> at all. And this felt like it was really
00:20:31
weird and we made it in a bubble during
00:20:34
the pandemic. So,
00:20:35
>> we had no sense of how people were going
00:20:37
to react to it or if critics would hate
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it. I just assumed people would make fun
00:20:43
of us and it would no one would watch
00:20:46
it. I feel like that's a good default
00:20:48
position and then you're just pleasantly
00:20:50
surprised if anything happens with
00:20:52
>> Keep your low low expectations going in
00:20:55
in Hollywood and then when when it's a
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hit, it's magic.
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>> If I've ever had anything work, you go
00:21:01
people say,
00:21:02
>> did you know it was going to be a hit?
00:21:04
You go, there's no idea at this point. I
00:21:07
know anything is anything. And also,
00:21:09
it's not edited and you're just shooting
00:21:11
scenes and there's so much trust in the
00:21:13
director and then the what edits they're
00:21:15
going to pick and how they're going to
00:21:15
put it together, the music and the
00:21:17
marketing.
00:21:18
>> There's so much out of your
00:21:20
>> control. So, if something works, it's
00:21:22
almost a miracle because and when when
00:21:25
things come together like that, it's
00:21:26
it's such a gift because you're doing
00:21:28
your job very well and then you see the
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cast acting, you're like, "This seems
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cool. Everyone's good."
00:21:35
>> Yeah. It still means nothing
00:21:38
>> because you just don't know.
00:21:40
>> No, I've been a part of things I've been
00:21:43
a part of things where it's just like,
00:21:44
"Oh man, this is this is really
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clicking. This feels
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>> this feels great." And then nothing.
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>> Nothing.
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>> Just complete silence.
00:21:55
>> Do you want to name that project or No,
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>> we all have them. And and there's even
00:22:01
like the indies you do where you don't
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even hear from those people ever again.
00:22:06
>> Like you the movie never even comes out.
00:22:08
Like you just never hear from them. That
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happened.
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>> Always good news travels fast in this
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business. Bad news travels very slowly.
00:22:15
You don't even know if it's coming out.
00:22:17
Oh, it came out a week ago. Oh, it did?
00:22:19
Yeah. Really? It was good. I think with
00:22:21
severance, you know, the the consistency
00:22:24
of tone from the brain trust, whoever
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the, you know, obviously it's Ben and
00:22:28
the brain trust kept it really
00:22:30
consistent. Hey, should we speed it up a
00:22:32
little bit here? I don't know if you got
00:22:33
notes, you know. Uh, could we get the
00:22:36
plot going a little further because
00:22:38
right now, you know, but it stayed in
00:22:40
its lane. It never patronized you. It
00:22:42
never tried to. So, that created this
00:22:45
mystery that was so compelling, the
00:22:47
smallalness of it, you know.
00:22:49
>> Yeah. Ben really I mean Dan Ericson uh
00:22:52
yeah is a brilliant writer and and Ben
00:22:55
really was sort of we were kind of
00:22:58
finding those first few weeks or first
00:23:01
month
00:23:01
>> producer too by the way sorry to
00:23:03
interject but you're a producer so
00:23:04
continue
00:23:05
>> you can say you these stories
00:23:06
>> yeah so you're with Ben and you're
00:23:08
you're part of that whole
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>> Yeah there's more than just Ben I didn't
00:23:11
mean to just say
00:23:11
>> yeah but but at the beginning it was
00:23:14
really Ben spearheading like figuring
00:23:17
out the tone of this place in this world
00:23:20
and not quite knowing and we were just
00:23:23
kind of
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>> it was just sort of trying stuff out
00:23:25
until we kind of found it and it started
00:23:27
feeling right and couldn't quite
00:23:30
>> articulate it but it we knew it when we
00:23:32
saw it and kind of felt it and just kind
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of continued
00:23:36
>> once we figured it out. Because
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sometimes you get you get hit with a
00:23:38
good idea like that and then the really
00:23:41
fun is you know when ideas stick with
00:23:42
you and you get excited and then you
00:23:44
want to talk about it and I'm sure now
00:23:47
you're all running with a great idea and
00:23:49
that's one of the most fun things even
00:23:50
in comedy is like
00:23:51
>> oh this is the setup okay go we all oh
00:23:55
what what if we did this what if we did
00:23:56
this and someone's kind of got to steer
00:23:58
it make the final call but that's the
00:24:00
real fun and then when it's working it's
00:24:01
so fun
00:24:02
>> and then you're getting drawn to Turo
00:24:04
and and Christopher Walk and you Crazy.
00:24:08
>> It's crazy.
00:24:10
>> Crazy. Don't know what I'm doing.
00:24:13
>> I still can't believe Christopher
00:24:15
Watkins and and John Turo. It's so
00:24:19
>> Yeah. I mean, these are like iconic. Did
00:24:22
you have any uh lunches with
00:24:24
Christopher? Any exchanges with him?
00:24:25
Because we all we all love Chris and
00:24:27
we've all had funny moments with him
00:24:29
because he's he's a one oneoff in
00:24:32
acting.
00:24:33
>> I just Yeah. just the the great I mean I
00:24:37
didn't really have a ton of scenes with
00:24:40
him. We had scenes where we were both
00:24:41
there and
00:24:44
I just I'm I uh I'm just so afraid of
00:24:49
saying or doing something that he would
00:24:50
think is lame
00:24:53
>> of course I would too. I've done it.
00:24:55
>> [ __ ]
00:24:56
>> But you guys have worked with him. He's
00:24:57
such a sweet person.
00:24:59
>> Oh yeah. SNL a lot. I I saw him last
00:25:03
year. I was doing Biden on SNL.
00:25:05
And I ended up at a wardrobe fitting
00:25:08
hanging out with him on a couch. He was
00:25:09
just there and I got to talk to him for
00:25:11
an hour. And at one point I just said,
00:25:14
"Um,
00:25:15
>> do you paint?" And he goes, "Of course
00:25:18
all old actors paint.
00:25:20
>> We all paint."
00:25:21
>> That's great.
00:25:21
>> You know, stuff like that.
00:25:23
>> He He didn't He looked at my phone.
00:25:25
Don't have one. You don't? And he
00:25:28
doesn't watch TV. I go, "What do you do
00:25:29
at night with your wife? She watches."
00:25:32
What do you do? when he says magazines
00:25:36
every night. I mean you have many are
00:25:38
there
00:25:39
>> magazines. How many
00:25:40
>> magazines magazines that was
00:25:43
>> time
00:25:45
national inquirer National Geographic
00:25:48
you name it I'm looking at it
00:25:51
>> reading opening to issue time
00:25:54
>> table of contents
00:25:56
>> pages
00:25:56
>> moving turning pictures
00:26:00
>> words
00:26:04
>> what about when you got someone like
00:26:05
walking and you go I feel like he's
00:26:08
giving me a break I'm starting at 100%
00:26:10
coolness and everything I say to him,
00:26:12
I'm dropping to 92%.
00:26:15
>> You're going to go to lunch today and
00:26:16
it's 84. And I'm like,
00:26:18
>> he's losing cool points. So, I'm just
00:26:19
going to stay whatever thinks he can't
00:26:21
really hate me yet.
00:26:22
>> That's right. I I would
00:26:25
>> I if I say nothing, maybe he'll hold me
00:26:28
in. Maybe he'll just remember me. I
00:26:31
remember Oh, I remember one thing. In
00:26:33
season one, I had a scene that he was in
00:26:36
where I had a big speech that I had to
00:26:39
like rally the troops and he was
00:26:41
standing there and I asked if I could
00:26:43
go. There were a bunch of people on the
00:26:45
scene so they're going person by person
00:26:47
to shoot the coverage, right? So, we're
00:26:49
doing it all day and I asked if I could
00:26:51
go last cuz I wanted to get as much
00:26:55
practice as rehearsal or whatever as
00:26:57
possible at while they shoot everyone
00:26:58
else. And um I remember jump to Turo
00:27:02
being like why are you going last?
00:27:04
You're crazy. You're gonna be exhausted.
00:27:07
And and they're go but I was so I didn't
00:27:10
by the time I did it it was going to be
00:27:11
in front of Christopher Walkan and John
00:27:13
Zuro. So I didn't want it to suck. And
00:27:15
so and and I was having trouble with it.
00:27:18
I couldn't quite didn't feel like I was
00:27:20
you know when you're doing doing it and
00:27:22
you're just like something isn't
00:27:24
slotting in. It's just not. And then
00:27:26
finally, by the time they got to me, I
00:27:28
felt like I had at least found the shape
00:27:31
of it. And afterwards, we were we were
00:27:35
just hanging out, chatting, and Walkin
00:27:38
was walking behind me to just to get by.
00:27:40
And as he walked by, he grabbed under my
00:27:43
elbow and just gave it a squeeze and a
00:27:46
shake as he walked by, which
00:27:50
may have just meant, "Would you please
00:27:51
move out of my way?" But to me, it
00:27:54
meant, "All right." Yeah,
00:27:56
>> good job.
00:27:56
>> You got it.
00:27:57
>> Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:27:59
>> Absolutely. It meant that. And I'm
00:28:01
getting chills from that.
00:28:02
>> I want less like that. I want those
00:28:05
compliments.
00:28:06
>> He wanted the same after we did a sketch
00:28:08
at SNL. He got me to headlock and
00:28:10
between the slats and it was painful.
00:28:12
What are you doing? Ruined it.
00:28:15
>> But my We all have stories. I have a
00:28:17
very quick one I've told before, but you
00:28:19
might appreciate because it's very
00:28:21
Christopher Walkin. So, we're playing
00:28:23
aliens on SNL and it's a Jack Handy
00:28:26
sketch and every time our trapoor comes
00:28:29
down to say hello to the Earthlings, we
00:28:31
kill one of them accidentally, but we
00:28:33
don't know. So, so we come out and
00:28:35
there's farmers. What are you doing? And
00:28:37
we try to go, we come in peace and then
00:28:39
he has a line where he says like almost
00:28:41
like a cartoon. He goes, "Let's get out
00:28:44
of here." And and then we run back up
00:28:47
into the cardboard spaceship and he's in
00:28:50
my face laughing. so hard. He's almost
00:28:53
crying because he said, "Let's get out
00:28:55
of here." So last fall when I was
00:28:57
hanging out with him, I brought that up.
00:28:59
Let's get out of here. And he was like
00:29:01
just kind of like, "Yeah, I remember
00:29:02
that." So then when we're saying
00:29:04
goodbye, he's like 20 ft away
00:29:06
>> and I say, "See you, Chris." And then he
00:29:09
turns and he goes, "Let's get out of
00:29:12
here." God.
00:29:13
>> And then he did his head back and
00:29:15
laughed his ass off. Oh, that's crazy.
00:29:18
>> Laughing his ass off as he walked past
00:29:20
someone.
00:29:21
>> God, I love him no more.
00:29:22
>> I just want to insert something here cuz
00:29:24
you know, you're you're an incredible
00:29:26
actor. I just heard you tortured about
00:29:28
that scene. I mean, you're
00:29:30
>> Big Little Lies. I mean, you are you're
00:29:32
Thanks. You're like a A+ actor. I mean,
00:29:35
that's why you work a lot. You're I got
00:29:38
exhausted reading your Wikipedia page.
00:29:40
Christ sank. This guy's been in more
00:29:43
movies than Chaplain during the World
00:29:45
War II era.
00:29:48
>> Oswald and the prison transfer.
00:29:51
>> See, I can't do I can't do it. Yeah.
00:29:53
Yeah.
00:29:54
>> Christ sings. Give me a topic. I'll try
00:29:55
I'll try to fill like that since the
00:29:58
Oswald prison transfer.
00:30:00
>> That's right. That's what it is.
00:30:02
>> Okay.
00:30:02
>> Okay. Here's the guy who owns a local
00:30:04
strip club. He's got a gun. You let him
00:30:06
through. Who are they turning away?
00:30:08
>> Yeah. You're you're bringing you're
00:30:10
bringing the Scott kid into the flying
00:30:12
the wall perennialism.
00:30:15
Yeah. He's done a couple little chunks
00:30:17
in that career. Getting up in Reese
00:30:20
Witherspoon's face on occasion as the
00:30:23
grumpy husband. All right.
00:30:27
Bros.
00:30:28
>> Oh my god, that's incredible. I remember
00:30:30
the Off-White album. Uh
00:30:33
>> yeah, dude. He's a genius. That album
00:30:37
was everything. Talking about the big
00:30:41
gulp and 32 ounces of any fluid. Like
00:30:44
you could only you would only have that
00:30:46
if you walked directly off the surface
00:30:48
of the sun. Would you need that much
00:30:50
fluid in your life?
00:30:50
>> 44 o you can park your jet skis.
00:30:54
>> That's right. Oh my god.
00:30:55
>> Only drink with an undertoe.
00:30:58
>> That's right.
00:30:58
>> If you talk to him, we'll have these
00:31:00
conversations on the phone and he is
00:31:04
>> just like that. really. Ah,
00:31:06
>> yeah. He doesn't have to practice. It's
00:31:08
reference that special he did. I opened
00:31:11
for him.
00:31:12
>> Did you really?
00:31:13
>> And I was
00:31:16
there was that
00:31:17
>> ended up being Off-White album.
00:31:18
>> There was black and white, I think, was
00:31:20
one.
00:31:21
>> But what was on was that the one was the
00:31:23
Off-White album recorded?
00:31:26
>> I don't know if an album and a special,
00:31:27
but Black and White and Mr. Miller goes
00:31:29
to Washington. Is that one?
00:31:31
>> That's one. Yeah. And uh so I opened one
00:31:33
because he's my favorite comic at the
00:31:35
time.
00:31:36
>> Yeah.
00:31:37
>> Uh just mostly from the writing. And
00:31:39
then I and he was nice to me. And then
00:31:41
he had Schneider open one
00:31:44
>> and and then after that I started going
00:31:46
on the road with Dana.
00:31:48
What?
00:31:49
>> Oh, how fun. God, that must have been so
00:31:52
fun.
00:31:52
>> Well, I got to watch these guys [ __ ]
00:31:54
crush it all the time and I'm like turn
00:31:56
into a research paper of all of them.
00:31:58
Well, it just we you get into these when
00:32:00
you're on the road or even a movie set
00:32:02
or something, you get punchy and you get
00:32:04
into these rhythms. But Dennis Miller
00:32:07
and I both hated flying. So, I'd be in
00:32:09
front of him, he's behind me flying. He
00:32:11
goes, "Carvey, if you see or hear
00:32:14
anything, I want to be I want to be the
00:32:17
first to know." Okay? And then he had
00:32:20
this thing that he would do. You know, I
00:32:22
want to tell you guys without a doubt,
00:32:23
you're the ragiest muffin, bunch of
00:32:26
knuckleheads I've ever had the pleasure
00:32:28
to command. You know that trope from
00:32:30
movies.
00:32:31
>> And he would do that endlessly. But we
00:32:34
would laugh at the driest
00:32:36
>> weirdest stuff on when you get punchy on
00:32:38
those roads.
00:32:39
>> So, so you guys would was it just on
00:32:42
your off weeks you would go on the road?
00:32:44
Is that or was it just summer?
00:32:45
>> Summer time. Summer mostly, you know. I
00:32:49
don't you know for us we I did a tour
00:32:51
with him and Kevin did a lot of dates
00:32:53
with David.
00:32:53
>> Kevin Nean's great man.
00:32:55
>> Kevin Ne Dennis and Dana did this watch
00:32:58
sponsored tour and I was so [ __ ]
00:33:00
jealous. I'm like how fun these three
00:33:02
guys go hang out
00:33:03
>> and they play like where I'm from in
00:33:06
Arizona.
00:33:06
>> Really cool watches.
00:33:09
>> I'd go I'm sorry. I'd go watch swatches
00:33:11
get a bad rap but they're really but um
00:33:15
actually so they were killing it and
00:33:17
making good money and I was like a
00:33:19
summer you're on SNL and then your
00:33:21
summer is fun. I couldn't believe that
00:33:24
situation
00:33:25
>> 20 cities
00:33:26
>> but also you guys were just like that
00:33:30
was in the midst of SNL so people must
00:33:33
have been going nuts everywhere you
00:33:35
went. Not that they don't still, but it
00:33:38
must have been so fun and and electric.
00:33:42
>> Yeah, that was right after my first
00:33:43
season. So, it was
00:33:45
>> we did 20 20 cities. And I remember we
00:33:49
were getting 5,000
00:33:51
>> dollar or something. We we when we
00:33:54
finished 10, we had made $50,000. So, we
00:33:57
called it and we threw a little party at
00:33:59
the hotel. what we call halfway to a big
00:34:01
bill cuz to make a h 100,000 over a
00:34:03
summer was unbelievable. Halfway to a
00:34:07
big bill, Carvey. The way we're going,
00:34:08
just remember, show business is one
00:34:11
thing. It's all about securing
00:34:14
rectangular green back.
00:34:18
>> Is that real? Is that
00:34:19
>> That's dead real. Even if he said it
00:34:21
once, he said it a thousand times. Why
00:34:24
are you turning down this commercial?
00:34:25
Why aren't you doing this, Carly? This
00:34:28
This town will eat you up and spit you
00:34:30
out. Nobody cares about you. All right.
00:34:32
>> Oh, God. It's all about securing
00:34:34
rectangular brink. Thank you.
00:34:38
>> All right, back to the story.
00:34:39
>> Good advice.
00:34:41
>> Uh, yes. I would just I said it to
00:34:44
Marcelo. I said, make sure you have a
00:34:46
wall of money that can spit out passive
00:34:48
income at a certain point. So, you're
00:34:50
still working, but you don't do anything
00:34:52
for the money anymore,
00:34:54
>> you know? Right. You do it because you
00:34:56
want to. Yeah. There you go. Dana, he
00:34:59
was on Parks and Wreck. Is there any any
00:35:00
way you can make fun of Roblo?
00:35:04
How good looking? Was Rob Low better
00:35:06
good looking when he came out of the
00:35:08
makeup trailer or did it didn't matter.
00:35:11
>> No, they had to they had to when he went
00:35:14
in the makeup trailer, they had to
00:35:15
somehow take it down.
00:35:18
>> Take it down a little bit. 10%.
00:35:20
>> That's right.
00:35:21
>> Give him some.
00:35:22
>> It's a different trailer.
00:35:24
>> Tommy boy say bring it down about 30.
00:35:26
I'd whisper to the makeup.
00:35:28
>> Yeah, if you could take the
00:35:29
handsomeness.
00:35:29
>> A little ruddy would be nice. He really
00:35:32
is a beautiful looking person.
00:35:37
>> Unbelievable.
00:35:39
>> Yeah. Uh yeah, he is. He's He's Yeah, he
00:35:42
and um he loves comedy. He would love to
00:35:46
put prosthetics on and play some weird
00:35:48
character. Um
00:35:51
>> you know, he loves everything we do. He
00:35:54
loved being on SNL all those times.
00:35:56
>> Yeah. And in Wayne's world, he loved
00:35:58
being in Wayne's world.
00:35:59
>> He was so He was so perfect. and he's
00:36:00
just fun to hang out with. He reads a
00:36:03
lot. He wrote that great autobiography.
00:36:05
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was great. Uh I
00:36:07
love his line in Wayne's world when he's
00:36:09
kicking you out of the office and and
00:36:12
telling you you can validate your
00:36:13
parking. Uh
00:36:16
uh just what such an [ __ ] Um uh but
00:36:20
also speaking of the prosthetics,
00:36:22
remember him in that Soderberg Liberace
00:36:25
movie? He's so great. He plays the
00:36:28
plastic surgeon and I don't know how
00:36:30
what they did but they pull his
00:36:32
>> face back and he can barely speak
00:36:35
because his face is pulled back so
00:36:37
tight.
00:36:38
>> It's a great one. I like that. Instead
00:36:41
of going to makeup where they try to
00:36:42
make me look better and then I take it
00:36:43
off at the end of the night and start
00:36:45
crying what I look like. Rob gets to go
00:36:47
make me ugly but only for eight hours
00:36:50
and then I get to take it off and go
00:36:53
>> back to my beautiful self
00:36:56
person for a while.
00:36:57
>> When you have makeup on and you kind of
00:37:00
catch yourself in the mirror throughout
00:37:01
the day, you can convince yourself that
00:37:05
>> oh [ __ ] you know what? I actually I'm
00:37:07
I'm like those red spots and like and
00:37:12
then you and then when you wipe it off
00:37:13
you're like oh yeah,
00:37:15
>> [ __ ] Yeah.
00:37:16
>> Didn't Didn't Ben Stiller I think I I I
00:37:18
think I read this somewhere. Uh but uh
00:37:21
Ben Ben Stiller said about you that you
00:37:25
can with your physicality and your act,
00:37:28
you can play the regular guy or you can
00:37:30
play kind of the sexy handsome guy. You
00:37:32
can just through your you can change the
00:37:35
way you look and carry yourself and
00:37:38
transition from those two types of
00:37:39
roles. Did you do you remember that?
00:37:42
>> No. But that's very kind of him to say
00:37:47
if he did indeed say that. Um
00:37:50
>> uh yeah, I don't I don't I don't know. I
00:37:53
I I don't um I maybe that's a that's a
00:37:58
very generous uh st
00:38:02
pretty stout range. You've done a lot of
00:38:04
things, you know. Um, and you know,
00:38:08
sure, you know, no, you're terrific to
00:38:10
just u, you know, we want you to play
00:38:12
the uh, you know, the sexy, you know.
00:38:14
Sorry, I I I don't know why I'm punchy.
00:38:17
It's early here. I'm sorry.
00:38:18
>> Wait, wait, wait. The Carson, can we
00:38:20
talk about Carcinio really quick?
00:38:22
>> Sure.
00:38:23
>> Sure. Because Carcinio,
00:38:26
that was deep into your run, but I
00:38:29
remember being like, "Holy [ __ ] this is
00:38:33
like a brand new angle on you'd been
00:38:36
already doing Carson for a few years and
00:38:38
it always
00:38:39
>> scored." I mean, it was always
00:38:42
>> and then Carino with the fingers and
00:38:45
that was a brand new angle and
00:38:49
>> Yeah, that was
00:38:51
>> a comment and he he got pissed off. Is
00:38:53
that right?
00:38:54
>> Um, it was later. You know, that one he
00:38:57
was like, "They're making fun of our
00:38:58
senior as much as they're making fun of
00:39:00
us." So, he kind of was okay with that
00:39:02
one.
00:39:03
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good.
00:39:04
>> Hey, did you know that, Ed, a crib is
00:39:06
called a bed and a bed is called a crib.
00:39:09
Did you know that?
00:39:10
>> All right. Oh my. That was what I might
00:39:12
be my favorite thing I've ever done
00:39:14
because um I literally I had no sense of
00:39:17
trying to be funny. I was just
00:39:19
inhabiting the earnestness of you at
00:39:22
home and Phil was just this hysterical
00:39:24
laugh button.
00:39:26
>> My god, he's so
00:39:27
>> those kind of things. And um that that
00:39:30
was at the time, you know, this this is
00:39:32
a great escalatory
00:39:35
uh chapter for Carson and call him
00:39:37
Carcinho and do the
00:39:39
>> thing. What a funnier matchup name to
00:39:41
fit perfectly. Michael or someone to go
00:39:44
Cario and everyone like oh my god how
00:39:47
funny. Yeah.
00:39:48
>> And the the title card and more to come
00:39:52
except it's all like neon and and like
00:39:55
they're trying to hip everything up.
00:39:57
There's no death
00:39:58
>> turtle.
00:40:00
>> Yeah.
00:40:01
An oil painting of a of a mongoose. They
00:40:05
have
00:40:07
neon lights and stuff.
00:40:09
>> The one that got him upset was when um
00:40:12
Susan Day was on and it was I didn't
00:40:15
think it landed anyway. I tried to get
00:40:17
it cut, but he Johnny didn't know that
00:40:19
the Partridge family was off the air
00:40:21
>> and that kind of bothered him. So, how
00:40:24
many she what she Well, we've been off
00:40:26
for 10 years. Yeah, you never know. But
00:40:28
over time,
00:40:29
>> that's so weird.
00:40:30
>> I I didn't like that it dinged him, you
00:40:33
know, cuz love Johnny, but I think for
00:40:36
the most part, he liked it. For most of
00:40:38
them, he thought it was funny.
00:40:39
>> Oh, that's great. That's great.
00:40:41
>> So, now is Ruben Concaid a regular cast
00:40:44
member now? No, he's that's over. He
00:40:46
died five years ago. That's we don't do
00:40:48
that show anymore, sir.
00:40:50
>> Okay. And now you have the buff.
00:40:54
>> Gentleman joined us, Adam Scott. He's
00:40:56
had success with a show called
00:40:57
separates. You know that they uh they
00:40:59
have dual lives.
00:41:01
>> I don't know where they pay channels.
00:41:05
>> Anyway,
00:41:08
>> back to our incredible guest,
00:41:10
>> Steph. And then we'll get to Hocom.
00:41:12
>> Yeah.
00:41:14
Rose first because is it called Hulum?
00:41:17
>> Hulum.
00:41:18
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hulum.
00:41:19
>> I I watched the trailer. Of course it's
00:41:21
good when it says nightmare fuel.
00:41:25
>> Yeah.
00:41:26
>> Of course.
00:41:27
>> That just gets you running out to the
00:41:28
theater.
00:41:29
>> Well, it does because the people that
00:41:31
like scary movies are getting immune and
00:41:34
they got a goose. But I got scared when
00:41:37
it goes deep in the woods. I go, "Uh-uh.
00:41:39
I don't know. I don't know."
00:41:41
>> Yeah. Why is someone walking in the
00:41:43
woods more than 10 feet?
00:41:44
>> Right. Anything that in the woods is
00:41:47
scary. It really is frightening. It's it
00:41:51
and I'm in it and I found it super scary
00:41:54
which is
00:41:55
>> when you read it, do you get scared
00:41:56
>> while you were shooting? You got scared?
00:41:58
>> Yeah. I'm two questions. When you read a
00:42:00
script, it's a horror movie. I don't
00:42:01
read them.
00:42:02
>> Is it scary? And you kind of like the
00:42:05
idea. Of course, it's got to all kind of
00:42:07
come together. And if you picture it the
00:42:09
way you read it, you probably go, "This
00:42:11
will be great if we can do it like I'm
00:42:12
picturing it."
00:42:13
>> Yes.
00:42:14
>> Yeah.
00:42:15
>> Yes. When you're reading it, if it it's
00:42:17
it's you. It's more an intellectual
00:42:20
thing, like, "Oh, I can see how that
00:42:22
would be super scary if all the pieces
00:42:25
come together." But I had seen this guy,
00:42:27
Damen McCarthy, the filmmaker. I had
00:42:29
seen his
00:42:30
>> previous movie called Oddity, which is
00:42:33
super weird and super scary. So, I knew
00:42:36
he would be taking
00:42:38
a side door into it and and and making
00:42:41
it scary in a in a in a strange way or a
00:42:45
different way. So,
00:42:46
>> uh so that that really helped kind of
00:42:49
ensure that this was going to be
00:42:51
interesting and scary.
00:42:53
>> By the way, uh right before we came on
00:42:56
air, I saw it's at 97%
00:43:00
on Rotten Tomatoes.
00:43:01
>> Oh, that's great.
00:43:02
>> Already.
00:43:03
>> Yeah. And I think the by line is a kind
00:43:06
of movie I'd want to see. I love the
00:43:07
idea of a writer is mourning his
00:43:09
parents' death and he's going to Dublin,
00:43:11
right? Ireland. Yeah. I mean, just that
00:43:14
feels like interesting, you know?
00:43:17
>> Yeah. That's part of what's cool about
00:43:19
it is it's a real story and a real kind
00:43:22
of character piece, but then it
00:43:24
>> takes a turn and it and it's super scary
00:43:27
and
00:43:28
>> uh so yeah, I think it's I think it's a
00:43:30
it's a really fun
00:43:32
>> ride. It's it has a lot of, you know,
00:43:34
jokes and stuff, too. So, aim to you
00:43:37
because again there's a lot of people
00:43:40
out there and you get like a guy luckily
00:43:43
I mean a horror movie would be fun for
00:43:45
me if I just read it and go if they just
00:43:46
did it like this I think it'd be work
00:43:48
but when you already see a blueprint
00:43:49
this guy's already done this now he
00:43:51
knows what he's doing.
00:43:53
>> Yes.
00:43:53
>> So you're half more than halfway there
00:43:55
and then you read it you go I like it
00:43:57
too
00:43:57
>> and then you so it's
00:43:59
>> not like you're an odd choice it's just
00:44:01
it's got to be someone then you do fit
00:44:03
kind of a writery that kind of thing.
00:44:05
So, good casting, good setup, and then
00:44:09
you've seen it and it's good that it's
00:44:10
scary. I mean, that's what everyone's
00:44:13
looking for these.
00:44:14
>> I would predict that right now in
00:44:16
Hollywood, there's people in rooms
00:44:19
uh working on projects and someone is
00:44:22
saying, "Hey, do you think we could get
00:44:26
Adam Scott?"
00:44:28
>> Oh, [ __ ] That'd be great.
00:44:31
>> He's really busy. I'm just saying if you
00:44:33
look at all your stuff, the range of it
00:44:35
and you're hitting it, you know, between
00:44:37
all these shows and uh I mean obviously
00:44:41
Big Little Lies was a a smash, you know,
00:44:43
it was one of those
00:44:45
>> everyone has to see it. It was so well
00:44:46
done
00:44:47
>> and your character was just kind of just
00:44:50
heartbreaking and it's just it's you
00:44:53
know human human. Yeah, that was one
00:44:56
where I was like Parks and Wreck had
00:44:57
just ended and I was having trouble even
00:45:01
being considered for anything that
00:45:02
wasn't comedic and I just wanted to try
00:45:06
something different. So,
00:45:07
>> yeah,
00:45:07
>> I heard about that and and just went and
00:45:11
auditioned and really wanted to to be a
00:45:14
part of it. So, I had to kind of prove
00:45:15
that I could do that to to to get the
00:45:19
the role and was happy I happy I did.
00:45:22
So, were you typ cast after Step
00:45:24
Brothers or anything where like he's a
00:45:26
comedian, he can't act?
00:45:29
>> Well, it was it was funny because before
00:45:31
Step Brothers, I hadn't really been in
00:45:34
hadn't really done a lot of comedy. I
00:45:37
was a comedy nerd since I was a little
00:45:40
kid, but
00:45:41
>> but had never I always kind of thought I
00:45:44
would be like a dramatic actor or
00:45:46
whatever. And but then step brothers and
00:45:48
the way those guys work after that
00:45:51
finished I was I kind of felt like I
00:45:53
never wanted to go back. It was so fun
00:45:56
>> and uh Will and Adam and John C Riley
00:45:59
and those guys. So uh that kind of
00:46:02
changed
00:46:03
>> me and it also kind of gave me a career
00:46:05
like I was able to finally like piece a
00:46:08
career together after
00:46:09
>> well that's a big one in the alltime
00:46:11
comedies. It comes up a lot. Do you uh
00:46:15
do people know you a lot from Step
00:46:17
Brothers or is it more Severance and
00:46:19
other stuff?
00:46:20
>> It's these days it's Severance, but and
00:46:22
there's always a Parks and Wreck, but
00:46:24
definitely Step Brothers a lot. Like
00:46:27
people love they just keep watching it
00:46:30
and uh on a lot of tour buses like
00:46:33
athletes and musicians watch Step
00:46:36
Brothers a lot.
00:46:37
>> Yeah. Yeah,
00:46:38
>> that's up in the rotation for sure.
00:46:40
Yeah. I feel like if I wasn't in it, I
00:46:42
it would be one that I had seen like 30
00:46:46
times, you know.
00:46:47
>> How much did they uh allow you to be
00:46:50
playful? Were you
00:46:53
>> obviously Will they'll put a camera on
00:46:54
Will and for 10 minutes or whatever?
00:46:57
Were you given some license to try
00:46:59
things? Because that is pretty heady
00:47:01
stuff for
00:47:02
>> on film, you know, that playful
00:47:05
>> completely. and they they gave that
00:47:07
license to everybody. And that's part of
00:47:10
what freaked me out is I had never
00:47:12
really done that before. So, it took me
00:47:15
a while to figure I remember I would
00:47:17
come to set with like jokes written on a
00:47:19
piece of paper that I had in my pocket
00:47:21
and I would pull it out during scenes
00:47:23
and during my coverage just cuz I wanted
00:47:26
to get and uh just didn't know like and
00:47:29
then you know after like three months or
00:47:32
so towards the end of the shoot I
00:47:34
remember shooting a scene uh at a dinner
00:47:37
table and John C. Riley and I kind of
00:47:40
started improvising and going back and
00:47:42
forth and it just started sort of
00:47:44
flowing and it was really fun, really
00:47:47
funny. And after cut, I remember we
00:47:51
looked at each other and he was like,
00:47:53
"See there, that was fun, right?" Like,
00:47:55
like I had finally kind of at least
00:47:58
started to figure it out. Um, and uh and
00:48:02
so like I said, after that, I just kind
00:48:04
of didn't didn't really want to go back.
00:48:06
And then parks and rack there is
00:48:08
improvisation and stuff too.
00:48:09
>> A lot of people stick to the word of the
00:48:11
script and they just say that's it. Cut.
00:48:13
Move on. And it feels like you're being
00:48:16
greedy. I've been on comedies where I
00:48:17
don't even want to be greedy. Even
00:48:18
something like grown-ups when it gets to
00:48:20
your you don't want to go I'm not trying
00:48:22
to take over here. You know,
00:48:24
>> everyone's kind of throwing each other
00:48:26
jokes. But especially if you're new to
00:48:28
their situation, you don't want to go
00:48:30
>> here's my 18 things I'm going to say
00:48:32
when you got to me. But you at least you
00:48:34
start to be prepared going if they cut
00:48:36
to me I guess I'm allowed to try stuff
00:48:39
or at least say do you guys mind if I
00:48:41
say this on this one or whatever
00:48:43
>> and then you get more relaxed about it.
00:48:46
>> Yeah. And then also Adam Mccay would be
00:48:50
yelling jokes from the monitors like
00:48:52
right
00:48:52
>> if there was anything they would always
00:48:54
have a bunch of great jokes to throw you
00:48:57
and
00:48:57
>> alts and Yeah. I would just say that,
00:49:00
you know, um, before digital, it was
00:49:03
kind of, you know, it was hard to, you
00:49:06
know, can I do more takes or could I do
00:49:08
a five minute take and it would run out
00:49:10
and stuff. It seems like 1922 in the old
00:49:13
once digital came in, you could
00:49:15
>> I I just think that and I don't know if
00:49:17
Brando created a way for him, the
00:49:20
greatest ever I suppose, to discover it
00:49:23
while the camera is rolling. In other
00:49:25
words, you're not rehearsing over there
00:49:27
and you, oh, we nailed it. You're like,
00:49:29
"No, right now when you were improvising
00:49:31
like that, it's new to you." And and how
00:49:34
do you like the high of that right now
00:49:37
it's happening? You don't have to act in
00:49:39
a way.
00:49:40
>> Totally.
00:49:41
>> Yeah. So,
00:49:42
>> that was the thing that turned it all
00:49:43
upside down for me shooting Step
00:49:46
Brothers was watching these guys and
00:49:48
their lack of preciousness that they're
00:49:50
just they'll do a take or two scripted
00:49:53
and then they'll just screw around. And
00:49:56
the thing that clicked for me, I was
00:49:58
like, "Oh,
00:49:59
>> these guys, they don't have to use all
00:50:01
of this. They're just gonna play and use
00:50:04
all the good parts. That's all it is."
00:50:07
For whatever reason, that hadn't I was
00:50:09
so like dead set on getting it right.
00:50:11
And
00:50:12
>> probably because I had such limited time
00:50:14
and small roles where I was always like
00:50:16
wanting to So watching these guys, it
00:50:18
was like, "Oh, you just [ __ ] around and
00:50:20
then cut together all the stuff that
00:50:22
works, all the great stuff, and then you
00:50:24
have the great thing."
00:50:25
>> Yeah. I never got to do that. I I think
00:50:27
it's I think it's such a great thing.
00:50:30
No, not really. Not like that. Not
00:50:32
because I didn't do a movie on digital
00:50:34
where there was time time just let it
00:50:37
run.
00:50:38
>> But yeah, you can really feel it. And
00:50:39
comedy is uh exciting in the way that
00:50:42
what you think is just a throwaway and
00:50:44
then you go to the preview and it gets
00:50:46
this gigantic laugh, you know. So
00:50:49
totally or a year after it's released,
00:50:52
you go
00:50:53
>> now I'm hearing that these are their
00:50:55
favorite jokes because now they've seen
00:50:56
it 10 times,
00:50:57
>> right?
00:50:58
>> And they like the minutia and all these
00:51:00
throwaways.
00:51:01
>> But I I agree. It's so much fun to do
00:51:03
that. It's very hard for the director
00:51:04
like McKay. The harder thing is what to
00:51:07
throw away because you're throwing away
00:51:09
a 100% great joke. There's sometimes
00:51:11
when it's like there's three
00:51:13
>> and you go, "This is funny for this
00:51:15
reason. This is better. This is more of
00:51:17
a weird one. Two of these got to go and
00:51:19
that's must kill you. It's tough.
00:51:22
>> Well, I remember I went to a test
00:51:23
screening of Step Brothers which was a
00:51:26
couple months before it came out and it
00:51:28
didn't totally work yet. Like this the
00:51:32
singing in the car scene wasn't in it
00:51:35
and it was just different and different
00:51:37
jokes and they were just trying
00:51:39
different things out and then a few
00:51:42
adjustments and it it totally works.
00:51:46
David, I'm curious with it like with the
00:51:48
wrong Missy, which is so great. Um, was
00:51:52
it were you guys improvising a lot on
00:51:55
that?
00:51:56
>> Yeah, especially Lauren who played Missy
00:51:58
because there's Schwarz and there's all
00:52:00
these people and it's an Sandler movie.
00:52:02
So,
00:52:03
>> at least we're all from that world of
00:52:05
let's do weekend and
00:52:07
>> the best is just she's more the crazy
00:52:10
one. So I was have to be more
00:52:11
restrained, but I would try to pitch her
00:52:13
jokes to be and she didn't need much
00:52:15
help. I mean, honestly, to get
00:52:17
>> someone to come in sort of out of the
00:52:19
blue, she' done a lot in LA,
00:52:21
>> a lot of improv, which really helped.
00:52:23
When the first day we shot, we were in
00:52:25
the first scene of the movie really, we
00:52:26
were on a date,
00:52:28
>> and she's yelling at this guy,
00:52:30
>> "Quit eye [ __ ] me." And it wasn't in
00:52:33
the script. Everyone and then when they
00:52:35
cut, we all laugh. And then the director
00:52:37
would go, "How about a little drunker?"
00:52:39
And then she go, "Uh, okay."
00:52:41
>> But that's where you have to be good
00:52:43
because
00:52:44
>> it isn't a line.
00:52:45
>> It's just play it like you're more Now
00:52:48
defend spade
00:52:49
>> now. And then she goes, "He'll come over
00:52:51
there and beat the [ __ ] out of you."
00:52:53
That's right.
00:52:54
>> I would I don't even know this girl like
00:52:56
But it's always fun cuz
00:52:57
>> it's a fun way to react against a crazy
00:53:00
person.
00:53:01
>> Totally.
00:53:01
>> So there's like two things going on. But
00:53:03
thank you for saying that, Ed. That was
00:53:04
really fun. all those movies hopefully
00:53:07
uh especially with Happy Men just you
00:53:10
try a lot when you can and like Dana is
00:53:12
saying I'd been there in movies where
00:53:14
they go can I try something they're like
00:53:15
we have 30 seconds of film left you
00:53:17
everyone's like if you want and you're
00:53:19
like sucks
00:53:20
>> we got to cram it in
00:53:21
>> that's different than just going you
00:53:24
know let's just keep going and but we
00:53:25
got to move on at some point
00:53:26
>> that's you know I think that stood out
00:53:29
because you know people say well you
00:53:30
know if you look back it's uh step
00:53:32
brothers and uh Tropic under and the
00:53:36
hangover and and there was sort of a
00:53:38
shift and that R-rated comedy with her
00:53:41
just popped and sometimes it just
00:53:43
happens.
00:53:43
>> Great.
00:53:44
>> Just like any Rated ones out there.
00:53:46
Yeah,
00:53:46
>> it was really fun watching you play the
00:53:49
straight man in really really well. We
00:53:53
is so you were able to be the straight
00:53:54
man and really score and be hilarious
00:53:57
but also let her have all of this room
00:54:00
to just destroy. It was I appreciate it.
00:54:04
I went off of the
00:54:05
>> Ben Stiller, Jason Baitman, overwhelmed
00:54:09
guy. You know what I mean? Like they're
00:54:10
very good.
00:54:12
>> Meet the parents.
00:54:12
>> Ben going, "What's going Yeah. It's like
00:54:16
so uh it was fun to do something that
00:54:18
was that because usually I'm a [ __ ]
00:54:21
ham bone."
00:54:22
>> Um All right. Thank you. Oh, anything
00:54:24
else for this young man, Dana? Because
00:54:27
he's got to get back to
00:54:28
>> It's just just research.
00:54:32
that you do bands.
00:54:33
>> I did want to mention that cuz I I found
00:54:36
that you and Scott Arian do
00:54:38
>> Yeah.
00:54:39
>> these podcasts. Um are you talking was
00:54:43
the I guess the first one. Are you
00:54:45
talking
00:54:45
>> the first one? The first one was you was
00:54:47
you. Okay.
00:54:50
>> And are you guys deciding together? How
00:54:52
did that happen? Like I love you too.
00:54:54
Let's just do a podcast where we just
00:54:56
talk about you too.
00:54:57
>> Yeah. It was because we had uh on his
00:55:01
one of his podcasts I was just a guest
00:55:03
on it. I made a YouTube reference like
00:55:06
as a joke and he was like, "Oh yeah."
00:55:08
And we realized we were both big YouTube
00:55:11
fans
00:55:12
>> and no one else really wanted to talk
00:55:14
about it with us. Like our wives were
00:55:16
sick of hearing about you. So I was just
00:55:20
like maybe we just go through their
00:55:22
discoraphy together and uh and right up
00:55:26
to because they were supposed to have a
00:55:27
new album coming out. So and then end
00:55:29
with their new album. So we just started
00:55:32
doing that and then eventually had the
00:55:35
actual band on a couple of times.
00:55:37
>> Oh wow. Really?
00:55:39
>> Yeah. It was crazy. We went and saw them
00:55:42
in New York and interviewed them in
00:55:45
their dressing room and then
00:55:48
another time interviewed them at a like
00:55:50
the recording studio. It was wild.
00:55:53
>> Yeah.
00:55:54
>> I remember hearing in the name of love
00:55:56
just probably FM radio early 80s and
00:55:58
went okay.
00:55:59
>> That's how I felt when I first heard the
00:56:01
police as well. It's like this is new
00:56:07
>> you know and the theatricality and and
00:56:10
the
00:56:11
>> you know that you know where Cold Play
00:56:13
they have uh people influenced sort of
00:56:16
by that loose baseline they would do you
00:56:18
know it was kind of a new sound.
00:56:19
>> I love Cold Play too. I think they're
00:56:21
brilliant. But
00:56:22
>> how about the beginning of Sunday Bloody
00:56:23
Sunday went
00:56:25
>> Yeah,
00:56:29
>> it's amazing because it's all pretty
00:56:31
simple.
00:56:32
>> Uh, you know, kind of the post punk kind
00:56:35
of simple. No one's like shredding. It's
00:56:39
just really disciplined, but you put it
00:56:41
all together and there's a magic to it.
00:56:44
>> Do you remember?
00:56:44
>> The bass and the drums are such a great
00:56:46
>> I'll let you go after this.
00:56:48
>> Yeah.
00:56:49
>> Go ahead.
00:56:49
>> I don't need to go. You guys, I'm fine.
00:56:51
No, you you've got to go. They told us
00:56:54
he gets
00:56:57
>> uh but I went to YouTube in Arizona.
00:57:01
I was going after Police Academy 4 came
00:57:04
out. Dana, thank you. Oh, which answered
00:57:08
all the questions from Police Academy 1,
00:57:10
two, and three. And so
00:57:12
>> I was that your first movie?
00:57:14
>> That my first movie and I went and saw
00:57:16
it in a day with my friends in Arizona.
00:57:18
>> Yeah. And then we little sparse in the
00:57:21
theater. Then we
00:57:23
>> drove to UT Arizona ASU Stadium and two
00:57:29
trivia. They cancelled
00:57:30
>> rattling.
00:57:32
>> Oh,
00:57:32
>> they cancelled because it was the
00:57:34
governor didn't have Martin Luther King
00:57:36
holiday.
00:57:37
>> Oh wow.
00:57:38
>> So they we the show was canceled. They
00:57:40
wouldn't go on.
00:57:40
>> I remember that.
00:57:41
>> Then they came back and did Ratt they
00:57:43
did Rattling Hum.
00:57:44
>> Okay.
00:57:45
>> So I was in the audience.
00:57:46
>> Yeah. for Rattle and Hum.
00:57:48
>> Yeah,
00:57:49
>> at Sunundevil City.
00:57:51
>> Part of it like they did like maybe
00:57:52
Streets Have No Name or they I don't
00:57:54
know what they did, but
00:57:55
>> yeah,
00:57:55
>> I think they jumped around in Rattham.
00:57:57
Is that possible?
00:57:59
>> Yeah, but it ends with that big
00:58:01
Sunundevil Stadium show.
00:58:03
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:58:04
>> As far as I remember. the uh can I
00:58:05
mention uh I've mentioned this before,
00:58:07
but we rarely talk about YouTube, but
00:58:10
when I was hosting the MTV Music Awards
00:58:12
where David was writing on the show,
00:58:15
>> um did we did a remote YouTube
00:58:19
>> Yeah. played along with them. I didn't
00:58:21
even know if I was staying on the beat,
00:58:23
but that was quite a thrill.
00:58:25
>> Even better than the real thing.
00:58:27
>> That was right. Yeah. Bucket list.
00:58:29
>> I know.
00:58:30
>> That was incredible.
00:58:31
>> That was amazing. And I got to have a,
00:58:34
you know, a precall with uh Bono and I
00:58:38
kept calling him Bono accidentally. What
00:58:40
a [ __ ] [ __ ]
00:58:42
>> Nervous. It's Bono, man. Cuz we were
00:58:44
doing jokes like you you know, Lucky
00:58:46
Charms and all that kind of thing.
00:58:49
>> It's not I'm not I'm not booed about it.
00:58:52
I'm not booed about it at all. I'm not
00:58:54
booed about it.
00:58:55
>> Booed? Is that something?
00:58:56
>> You mean bugged? No, I'm not booked
00:58:58
about it.
00:58:59
>> Oh, don't boo. I go, "Should we do a
00:59:01
sequel to Wayne's World?" I wouldn't
00:59:03
touch it.
00:59:06
>> Hey, [ __ ] you. We'd love to have him on.
00:59:10
>> So, uh, it's crazy that you were able to
00:59:14
stay on beat via satellite with that
00:59:16
>> via moonlanding.
00:59:18
>> I had a monitor and it was just on a
00:59:19
wing and a prayer. It was kind of just a
00:59:21
basic in the pocket thing, but I I don't
00:59:23
I don't I don't know if I ever was
00:59:25
really in sync with him, but I guess it
00:59:27
appeared like I was. I remember watching
00:59:29
it over and over again. It was cool.
00:59:32
>> Jeez Louise. I'm gonna watch your stuff
00:59:33
over and over again. Okay. Big Little
00:59:35
Live.
00:59:36
>> Watch that again. Step Brothers Tonight
00:59:39
with the Wife.
00:59:40
>> There you go.
00:59:42
>> Um, so Hoko, I It sounds like a great
00:59:44
film. I know that, you know, they're
00:59:45
going to be like, "Did you mention the
00:59:46
movie?" Yeah, we did.
00:59:50
>> Thanks, you guys. Thanks for mentioning
00:59:52
it.
00:59:52
>> It's been a pleasure. I was so thrilled
00:59:54
when I saw your name come up because
00:59:56
it's just I just I just like what I like
00:59:58
what you do. I like the way your your
01:00:00
job as an actor and and you you are and
01:00:03
seem like a perfectly centered nice
01:00:05
person.
01:00:06
>> Thanks. Well, I'm such a massive fan of
01:00:09
both of you guys. So, I'm uh I'm really
01:00:12
flattered to uh to be on.
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