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Hank Azaria Talks Conan, Walken, Pitt, and Springsteen

May 07, 2026 / 01:05:19

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my agent forbade me from doing.

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>> Oh, really?

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>> This is where the question for you cuz

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like you don't want to do that. It's

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crazy over there. You're going to enter

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a situation that is crazy political and

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you're going to be like a lamb at the

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slaughter in there. I wanted to act not

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just cuz I enjoyed the voices like we

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were talking about earlier, but it was a

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deeper darker like I really wasn't too

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comfortable being myself. I preferred

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being other people. And so to get up and

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act, like Royy's whole thing was if you

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want to really act well on stage or film

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or TV, you have to be willing to expose

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yourself to like really be yourself in

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front of people,

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>> which I absolutely could not do. I

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couldn't do it. I showed my 16-year-old

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son the godfather for the first time. So

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I've been working on my veto profession.

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Oh

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>> god.

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>> It's good for disciplining a boy. His

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name's Howor.

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Come over here.

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Hankazeria. Hankazeria is in most things

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you see.

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>> He's in a lot of movies, lot of TV

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shows, and of course,

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>> he's the he's the full course, the full

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monty of 800 episodes of The Simpsons.

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He's in each and every one since 198.

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>> Very good. He did a show Brock Meyer

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that was very wellreceived. Um

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>> he's been in and out. I've seen him over

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the years. What a cool dude. And what a

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great time we had just blowing it up

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with him.

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>> Yeah, he's got a great ear and he's he

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just throws his voices out and it's uh

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from some of his characters. It's really

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fun fun to watch.

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>> Oh yeah, I did a lot of impressions.

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>> Yeah, impression impressions, too. We

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got We'll get into the old timey

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impressions.

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>> Oh yeah, that's right.

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>> I'll just say I'll say two words for you

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people who were born in the 50s. Boris

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Carlo.

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>> Oh, that's right. That's right.

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All right. Well, have a good time with

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them. You'll have some laughs. Hank

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Aeria.

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>> Hello.

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>> I got pitched a script once where

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>> it was

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I think it was a Japanese woman who was

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a uh thought that maybe I was her dad in

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the script.

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>> I like that.

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>> In the script.

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>> The script. I I She was seeking me and

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thought maybe I was her dad. I don't

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know.

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I have a story. We should roll because I

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have a story along.

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>> We're officially We're

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>> once I pop on. It's

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>> It's on.

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>> We were riveting. We had some pretty

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cool stuff going.

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>> I know. I'm like I don't I'm feel bad

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they're going to waste it,

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>> but I think we're still locked and

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loaded. Hank,

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>> hello, gentlemen. Um,

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>> thanks for coming on our show. We're

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really happy to see you. I I feel like

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you're a brother from another mother.

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Why are you apologizing?

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Did I apologize? I thought you said they

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interrupted you.

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>> Oh, no. It's a

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>> my brother from another mother because

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when I I hear you and I see you do these

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things and you inhabit them and I just

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totally relate to how much fun it is

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>> and that certain voices make you really

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happy, you know, more than other voices.

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>> Yes, I that's a tremendous compliment

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coming from you and uh yeah, I know you

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I've you know enjoyed your your voices a

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lot over the years.

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Thank you.

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>> Absolutely. Yeah. Incredible.

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>> What about this voice?

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>> That's a good voice. Well, that that

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leads me to a story. Do you remember

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David? We used to run into each other a

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lot back in the day and um

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>> you used to say to me

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something.

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>> You used to say to me, um, hey,

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you go, hey, could I do voices on the

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Simpsons? Listen,

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>> that's good.

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>> That's good. That's good. You need that.

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I By the way, what a dumb thing to say

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to the guy. Everyone's like, "Can I have

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that?"

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>> I don't think you really were.

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>> I think I was kidding.

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>> I think you were just having a little

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fun.

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>> Even though The Simpsons is still on. I

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don't know if you know this. Still on.

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>> I knew that.

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>> Right.

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>> And still funny. That's the hardest

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part.

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>> Yeah. The The writers do an amazing job.

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They really do. I don't know where they

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they they reach for some strange

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storylines these days, but you can't

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blame them after like 800.

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>> They have to. I think when Conan left, I

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think he was secretly hoping it would

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all collapse.

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>> That was the craziest thing like that

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he, you know, left to to host a late

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night talk show. I mean, he had never

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even done standup.

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>> I know.

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>> Yes. Yes,

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>> it was a pretty out out of the blue.

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Even though we knew him, we knew he was

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funny, but for Lauren and like who's it

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going to be and Conan and to have it

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work?

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>> Yeah. It was who was the head of NBC

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that just decided was it Warren

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Littlefield? I was very

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>> Littlefield. It wasn't Tartar Sauce. He

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was gone. Brandon Tarter Sauce.

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>> Brandon Tarter Sauce. Yeah, that I know.

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They they had

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>> that that was his birth name. They

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covered it up. fun fact. But um yeah,

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Conan and I were writing Hans and Fron's

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The Girly Man Dilemma, a movie, and they

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were considering me to do that job and I

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was completely conflicted, you know, at

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that time. And and then when Conan got

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it because I you hung out with them

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enough, it kind of made sense. And then,

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you know what I mean?

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>> Yeah. Yeah, I mean he was he was the

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only writer at the Simpsons that would

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like sort of work the room

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>> with the with the voice act like you

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know you knew Conan was hilarious

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>> whereas the other guys it was sort of a

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Harvard hasty putting you know almost

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MIT vibe to to the way they approach

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things

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>> kind of slightly tortured. Yeah.

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>> Yeah. Sort of on the spectrumy and uh

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you know uh but Conan was just

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hilarious. But remember do you guys know

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Jake Hogan? Remember, do you guys know

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Jay Cody, writer?

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>> Was he Was he on SNL for a while or

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there were a couple that came from SNL?

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George

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>> George Meyer.

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>> George Meyer. Yeah. Which Robert Smiggle

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used to say because George was very hard

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on the show itself. And I I was there my

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first year. And so he would kind of go

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around kind of as a joke and go show

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dying.

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Do you know that?

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>> That um that became famous. We knew that

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at the Simpsons.

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>> Oh, it metriculated over there.

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>> Yeah. I think there were another couple

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of SNL writers that came to the Simpsons

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and they sort of said that

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>> they busted George on that.

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>> Yeah. And we would we picked it up as

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sort of a catchphrase. Show dying.

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>> Farewell show.

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>> Conan get up and act out like the voices

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or does he just pitch ideas?

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>> He wouldn't do he's not a voice guy

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really, but no, he would just nei

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neither. He would just kind of break

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into comedy, you know, uh, while we were

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recording. He just would just be

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hilarious.

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>> Um,

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>> now it's wait,

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>> he would violently convulse. I mean,

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Conan would be standing in there and

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he's just doing and he's likely convuls.

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>> Yeah. It'd be like the guy's like,

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"What?" You know, it's like a sudden

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convulsion.

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>> Oh, he would snap his head a little bit

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like

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>> Yeah. Yeah. Uh, was it from SNL to the

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Simpsons or the other way around?

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I think Conan is SNL to the Simpsons for

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Conan because then I think he went

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straight from the Simpsons to his late

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night show

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>> the show. Oh, okay.

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>> Conan would do things like

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maybe when he do this at SNL he would

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just kind of yell out nonsequittors um

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>> Sure.

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>> in the writer room and then they would

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actually then he'd like

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it was like a game to turn it into an

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actual bit like he he would kept he kept

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saying jump.

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People was like what what are you

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saying? And he just would say and then

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that became like the name of Patty and

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Selma's pet lizard or something, you

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know? He just would like free associate,

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turn them into bits.

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>> Yeah. He'd grab me and go, "What do you

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think you're doing on the side of the

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show, dude?" Like, you know, everything

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was like bitsy stuff, you know? But it

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was funny because also I was new and he

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knew he could push me around.

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>> Did he Did he Was he

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>> Well, it's always 225. He could push a

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lot of people.

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>> 6123.

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>> He's just under 7 feet. 302. And

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>> well that brings me actually to a

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question I want to ask you guys if I can

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interview you.

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>> We love questions.

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>> See I I really do admire you both very

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much and I love SNL. You know I think I

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was 11 in 1975 when SNL premiered.

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>> Yes.

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>> Um yeah

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>> and it premiered very close to when PBS

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first aired Monty Python as well. They

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were like right next to each other.

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>> Yep. I remember that whole era. those

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two. Yeah.

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>> Yes. And it which totally blew my I

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couldn't believe adults could be that

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silly and smart and funny like gave me

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hope for the world literally those two

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shows.

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>> And uh so you know SNL to me it still

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has this like mythic it's it's the apex

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of comedy to me and you know always

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wanted a I never auditioned. I don't

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know why I never got myself together to

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do it. I think partly it's because I

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didn't start writing until much too late

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into my life, you know, to like figure

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it out. Um, and then I was dying to host

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like, um, I was supposed to host. I had

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this NBC show a long time ago and then

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the show got cancelled like right away,

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>> so they canceled it. And I was like, um,

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I was I I do these charity poker things

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sometimes and I was playing in a game at

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the table was like Brian Cranston and

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John Ham and Amy Schumer and Don Cheetel

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and I can't remember who else. and

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they're all talking about they're all

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trading stories about when they hosted

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SNL. And after about 10 minutes, I went,

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"Yeah, I uh I think I'm the only one

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here that that's never hosted the show."

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And so then for the rest of the game,

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every time I lost a hand, it was maybe

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if you'd hosted that hand might have

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gone better for you.

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>> Um but but then there was a time when

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that was

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>> that was John Ham, right?

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>> That was Ham.

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>> Yeah, because that's his sense of humor,

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you know.

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>> Everybody everybody happily joined in on

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it. Um, but then there was a time when I

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was like in my mid30s. I was like, you

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know what? I want to like go back. I'm

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gonna audition. I'm just gonna get my

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[ __ ] together. I know I'm old,

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>> but I'm going to just get my [ __ ]

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together and audition. And my agent

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forbade me from doing it.

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>> Oh, really?

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>> This is where the question for you

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because like

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>> you don't want to do that. It's crazy

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over there. You're going to enter a

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situation that is crazy political and

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you're going to be like a lamb at the

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slaughter in there. And

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>> you know, was that around the Chris

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Elliot years? Janine Gar. I wonder when

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it would be because

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>> would it be 95?

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>> Would it be the rep of like

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>> I might have it was like 20201

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2002 in there.

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>> Okay. So Will Ferrell had arrived and

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was about to exit, I guess.

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>> Well, was it as hard as all that? You do

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hear stories about how it could be

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really rough.

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>> Yeah, I would just say it all depends. I

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mean, I think if uh your skill set seems

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perfectly adapted for it. So,

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uh it's kind of like it's still based on

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characters, reoccurring characters,

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voices, you know. So, I don't know. It

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would I it'd be very interesting to see

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you host it. I I put you on the cast

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now. I mean, you know, there is no

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>> that's what this is about for me. If you

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can make a couple of calls, I would

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highly appreciate it.

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>> Cast would be fun for you. Hosting would

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be fun also. But

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>> Lauren, what are you Lauren? What are

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you doing? Oh, I'm just looking at the

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list of

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um show folk that the ones that got

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away. Uh Hank Aeria never uh just really

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really like really wanted him, but his

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agent didn't want him down.

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>> [ __ ] blocked me.

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>> No, I never got that far.

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>> Um, do you Yeah, that's so interesting

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because I thought that I couldn't find

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it because I was looking around, you

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know, Hank's area host SNL. I thought,

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you know, there's something had to have

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been there.

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>> Was there whispers? Was there a point

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where you go, this is the time I

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probably would have?

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>> It was that I had this NBC show.

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>> Okay.

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>> And I was all over it. I'm like, okay,

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I'm on NBC show, so this is a natural

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>> network. Mhm.

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>> So, and they did they had set it up and

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then it got cancelled. Like it was one

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of those we made seven, they aired two

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and goodbye was

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>> [ __ ] I did an animated show for NBC and

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they said Dana's buddy Brad Gay made a

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deal to put on NBC and I'm like this is

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about a deadbeat dad. It's not like a

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family show. It's a cartoon. It's weird.

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I said maybe it's more for HBO. And

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they're like he goes no I got a deal

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with NBC. We'll do it. So it like helped

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him in a weird way. Meanwhile, NBC was

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like, "This isn't really a family show."

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They called me ahead of time. It's

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airing in July. We're going to air two

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episodes back toback and cancel it. I

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was like, "That that

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>> what if it kills it?" They're like, "It

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won't." Anyway, so two and out. I was

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like,

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>> "Oh my god,

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>> I've had two of those. Two of those

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almost exactly."

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>> Everything I ever did failed. Everything

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I ever did failed except the except

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Wayne's World. Every pilot, every

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series, everything. I'm just I don't

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want to I I'm just sort of curious. Was

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there potentially any conflict of

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interest with this person that SAID,

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"OH, YOU DON'T WANT TO do SNL? Are you

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crazy?"

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>> No, I think he was being genuine.

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>> He felt I regret it. I think he felt

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like it would have been a step back in

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my career, you know, and I disagree. I

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should have had more balls instead.

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>> Well, Phil Phil Hartman, the late our

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awesome friend,

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>> you would have been like a Phil. he was

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38 and didn't even mean a thing because

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we're always a lot of times even today's

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cast they're like you know Marcelo's 28

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and he's playing somebody who's 60 you

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know what I mean it's usually you're

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aging up but Phil was just perfect you

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know

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>> used to be they'd go we need a dad type

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we need a younger but now every

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>> game show host dad

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uh straight man to the host also and

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also can do all these other things you

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ask him to do you know So

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>> yeah,

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>> I don't want you have any regrets though

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because you had you've had are having

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such an amazing career in my mind.

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>> It's too it's too late. I I have the

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regrets. I think I think if I wrote more

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at the I would have just done I would

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have said screw you. I'm just going to

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put together something and do it even

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just for fun, you know.

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>> Would you hate it if you auditioned and

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didn't get it?

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>> Well, I mean I'm used to Aren't we all

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used to that at this point? Yeah.

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Actually, you never think you're going

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to get

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>> No, if you never audition, you never

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get, you know, you never lose,

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>> right? You just do it and you walk away

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and and they call and you go, "What's

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this about?

00:15:57

>> Didn't you have an audition today?" And

00:15:58

I go, "Oh, I already wrote it off as

00:16:00

it's not happening." And they're like,

00:16:01

"No, it's happening." I'm like, "Oh,

00:16:03

wait. Let me look. What was it again?"

00:16:06

>> So, no, I'm the opposite. I'm like all

00:16:08

over it to a point where I have to calm

00:16:10

down. When I started, I was like I when

00:16:13

I was in acting class, obviously I

00:16:15

didn't finish all of them, but uh the uh

00:16:17

>> Was I in class with you for a while?

00:16:19

>> Was I was that Ivana?

00:16:21

>> Yes.

00:16:23

>> And Roy London.

00:16:24

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

00:16:25

>> I think that's where you said the

00:16:26

Simpsons thing.

00:16:27

>> Maybe that's because Roy London. I

00:16:31

actually

00:16:31

>> I didn't get Roy London, Hank. I got

00:16:34

passed down.

00:16:35

>> Roy London. JV Roy London because Brad

00:16:39

uh was a Brad Pitt was with our

00:16:41

management and they said go to and

00:16:43

Shanley went to Roy London watched like

00:16:46

he was the best and I go this would be

00:16:48

great and they go great you're going to

00:16:49

go over here in this room and this is

00:16:51

the spillover room and it was Ivana

00:16:54

>> well in fairness everybody started that

00:16:55

way David you had

00:16:58

>> start with Roy

00:16:59

>> you like yeah you had to do like the

00:17:00

farm system and then they would bring

00:17:02

you up

00:17:02

>> I I stayed in TripleA but actually Ivana

00:17:05

was good I liked She was great. Yeah.

00:17:07

>> Yeah. And she got me

00:17:09

>> to do better. Yeah. I agree.

00:17:10

>> So Roy London, how would you describe

00:17:13

his because what I met him a few times

00:17:15

and his philosophy of of acting was so

00:17:18

unique, I thought. And I don't know if

00:17:20

you how will you describe it? I'd have a

00:17:23

way to describe it, but I want to hear

00:17:24

you. Well, well, I was in there for I

00:17:27

really needed him badly because I was in

00:17:30

there for like three years

00:17:32

>> and

00:17:33

>> I I I

00:17:36

went because I was already on The

00:17:38

Simpsons and had done a few things.

00:17:40

>> Um, and Roy like sized me up right away

00:17:44

once I got out of Ivana

00:17:46

>> and said, "Okay, you're not allowed to

00:17:47

do any voices or even be particularly

00:17:49

funny in here."

00:17:50

>> Oh.

00:17:51

>> You're just going to be yourself.

00:17:53

>> And I was like, "Oh, that's terrible."

00:17:55

Yeah. What's that? It's terrible.

00:17:57

>> Well, I didn't even real I re I realized

00:18:00

that I, you know, I'm I'm a mimic at at

00:18:03

heart. That's really the basis of

00:18:05

everything for me. And I wanted to act

00:18:09

not just because I enjoyed the voices

00:18:10

like we were talking about earlier, but

00:18:12

it was a deeper, darker like I really

00:18:14

wasn't too comfortable being myself. I

00:18:16

preferred being other people. And so to

00:18:19

get up and act, like Royy's whole thing

00:18:20

was if you want to really act well on

00:18:23

stage or film or TV, you have to be

00:18:25

willing to expose yourself to like

00:18:27

really be yourself in front of people,

00:18:29

>> which I absolutely could not do. I

00:18:31

couldn't do it.

00:18:32

>> And neither could Peter Sers.

00:18:35

>> Yes, it's true. Imposter syndrome. Yes,

00:18:38

there's certain Do you I mean, you know,

00:18:40

Dana, are you like that at all? Like, do

00:18:43

you

00:18:44

>> Yeah, I was cast in things. I had a teen

00:18:47

face for about three weeks. So, I was

00:18:49

cast in things uh as the straight man

00:18:53

playing myself and I was just absolutely

00:18:56

awful. But the lines were like when I

00:18:58

did a sitcom with Mickey Rooney and

00:19:00

Nathan Lane in New York, I was the

00:19:03

straight man. And the first day at the

00:19:05

readrough, Mickey pointed at me and

00:19:06

said, "You're the straight man." You

00:19:08

know, I'd been doing standup and

00:19:10

everything. You hear me? Bang.

00:19:13

>> The straight.

00:19:14

>> Give him no jokes. So I would just my

00:19:17

question I would ask questions. I was

00:19:19

just the guy going, "What are you doing?

00:19:21

When's he coming home?" This and that. I

00:19:23

And I sucked. I was terrible. But yeah,

00:19:26

it's fun to do a character. I think a

00:19:28

lot of people like Roblo said he would

00:19:30

love to be in prosthetics and playing a

00:19:34

character more than anything else.

00:19:36

>> He's more a version of himself. Yeah.

00:19:37

It's the opposite. I mean, you could

00:19:40

you're so versatile that you could do,

00:19:42

but you've done a lot of things where

00:19:44

you're acting as a as yourself, using

00:19:47

yourself.

00:19:48

>> Thanks to Roy, I mean, I I did have a

00:19:51

breakthrough in there one day. Um,

00:19:54

>> what happened?

00:19:56

>> What happened? What was the

00:19:57

breakthrough? you know, he finally like

00:20:00

I was there for like three years and he

00:20:02

started everybody in that class would

00:20:04

have their turn maybe two three times a

00:20:06

year where you were sort of the focus

00:20:08

>> you know uh it wouldn't be like you'd

00:20:10

spend they spend he'd spend the whole

00:20:12

three by the way I was in class when

00:20:13

Brad Pitt had his breakthrough that was

00:20:15

an unbelievable thing to see

00:20:16

>> oh it was like one day one class

00:20:19

>> he didn't come much but yeah he was like

00:20:21

sort of having a little trouble and then

00:20:24

Roy just kind of said this or that and

00:20:26

all of a sudden you saw Brad Pitt that

00:20:27

appear before your eyes. Same I saw

00:20:30

Sharon Stone have a similar breakthrough

00:20:31

in that class.

00:20:32

>> Wow.

00:20:33

>> Uh Sharon Stone was almost the point

00:20:35

where she was in there for months and

00:20:37

you you know you that person in class

00:20:40

you want to kind of pull him aside and

00:20:41

say maybe you shouldn't do this because

00:20:44

I don't know that you're getting the

00:20:45

hang of this.

00:20:46

>> It's not getting better. Yeah.

00:20:48

>> She was like in my opinion she was kind

00:20:50

of one of those people. And then one day

00:20:53

she just like had this breakthrough and

00:20:55

she was unbelievable

00:20:58

um in this scene and like ever after she

00:21:00

was incredible. But Roy, so I'm up there

00:21:02

in front of Roy and I'm doing we're

00:21:05

doing a scene from a play a Lanford

00:21:07

Wilson play called Burn This

00:21:09

>> Malovich actually the aforementioned

00:21:12

made made famous on Broadway

00:21:13

>> and um doing the scene and he goes there

00:21:17

right there. I do a line he go what

00:21:18

happened? you're going along fine and

00:21:20

then it's like you jump out of your body

00:21:22

like what happens to you? I was like to

00:21:25

be honest I hear myself give like a tiny

00:21:28

line reading. I think in my mind I was

00:21:30

trying to do like my version of how I

00:21:32

imagined Malovich would do the scene

00:21:34

because that's my stickick, you know?

00:21:36

Not like I was imitating him, but

00:21:38

>> it's still not exactly genuine, right?

00:21:40

>> That's how Nicholas Cage works, you

00:21:42

know.

00:21:42

>> Is that right? So I didn't like that. He

00:21:45

just says in this next scene, I'm going

00:21:46

to do Daniel D Lewis. I go, really? And

00:21:50

so it's kind of a wide shot with a

00:21:52

woman. He comes in, he drops to his

00:21:53

knees. He's going to do Daniel D. Lewis

00:21:55

from the name of the father. And he

00:21:57

doesn't tell the director or anybody. He

00:22:00

just comes in, drop to HIS KNEES. WHY?

00:22:02

WHY? WHY? TOTAL COMMITMENT, you know.

00:22:05

Yeah. So that's how he does it. He just

00:22:07

thinks acting should be should be an art

00:22:09

form rather than just realism, you know.

00:22:12

>> Well, I'm kind of with him on that. like

00:22:13

I'll you can do that to play around or

00:22:16

try a thing or a weird take or

00:22:19

>> you know sometimes just having another

00:22:21

actor in mind,

00:22:23

>> you know, Woody Allen used to say that

00:22:25

he thought he was doing such a direct

00:22:27

Bob Hope impression that people going to

00:22:29

bust him on it.

00:22:30

>> Yeah.

00:22:30

>> You know, but Bob Hope in his mind

00:22:33

through a Woody Allen filter is quite a

00:22:34

unique thing. I didn't even I I get the

00:22:37

connection. But I know that Woody was it

00:22:40

was different. But it was this this kind

00:22:42

of

00:22:43

>> pause, you know, right before because I

00:22:46

Why aren't we quietly humping, you know,

00:22:49

>> it's it's and Bob Hope is like, "Yes, I

00:22:52

got to go." He's sort of scared.

00:22:53

>> The nervous coward character.

00:22:56

>> Yeah. And and halting speech before the

00:22:58

fear comes out. It's just the fact that

00:23:00

I'm terrified might get in the way, you

00:23:03

know, all that stuff.

00:23:04

>> Exactly. I have a good Woody Allen story

00:23:06

too that I could tell you. But so

00:23:08

anyway, Roy said,

00:23:10

>> please

00:23:10

>> uh he gave this amazing thing. He said,

00:23:13

so I I heard myself give a bad line

00:23:15

reading and I like froze and I basically

00:23:16

wanted to quit acting in that moment,

00:23:18

let alone the scene. And Roy tells me

00:23:20

this story. He goes, "Look, when I was

00:23:22

like 15 years old, this is Roy talking.

00:23:25

I'm at the my my I love my dad very much

00:23:29

and I was having lunch with my mother at

00:23:32

our country club and I see my dad coming

00:23:35

into the 18th hole in the golf green and

00:23:38

he's finishing his round at golf and he

00:23:40

we me and my mom see him grab his heart

00:23:42

and fall to the ground on the 18th green

00:23:46

and by the time we got to him he was

00:23:48

gone. He was wow he was dead.

00:23:51

>> And he said, now that was 35 years ago

00:23:53

when he told the story. He said,

00:23:54

"Sometimes when I tell that story,

00:23:56

>> I'm filled with emotion as if it just

00:23:58

happened, you know, and sometimes I'm

00:24:01

just reporting a thing that was really

00:24:03

painful for me, but um I don't have much

00:24:07

emotional connection to it because it's

00:24:09

been a long time." And he said, he said

00:24:11

to me, "That's what acting is." He said,

00:24:14

"You're not some takes or some nights on

00:24:16

stage, you're going to really feel it

00:24:18

and just be in there." And he said, "In

00:24:21

some nights, you're not." He said, "But

00:24:23

instead of like listening to yourself be

00:24:26

in it or not, if you just," he said,

00:24:28

"Sometimes when I every time that I tell

00:24:30

that story though to somebody, they

00:24:33

understand how devastating it was for

00:24:34

me, whether I'm filled with emotion or

00:24:36

not." He said, "As an actor, if you

00:24:38

don't feel it, just make sure your scene

00:24:40

partner gets where you're coming from."

00:24:42

And it's a way to completely relock back

00:24:44

into the scene. It's okay to report on

00:24:46

life as an actor on stage, too. And

00:24:49

after that, I was to totally freed up to

00:24:52

like,

00:24:53

>> you know, even when I felt like I

00:24:54

sucked, I felt like I could still stay

00:24:56

in the scene and make something that

00:24:58

worked.

00:24:58

>> Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. It's good. You

00:25:00

picked up a lot and it really really

00:25:01

helped.

00:25:02

>> Oh, I I I couldn't I couldn't do I

00:25:06

couldn't have done anything really. It

00:25:08

it made all my Simpsons characters

00:25:10

funnier because I felt like I

00:25:12

>> like instead of Jeff just doing Chief

00:25:14

Wiggum, which was such a fun voice, this

00:25:16

is just my impression of Mel Blank's

00:25:19

impression of Edward G. Robinson, you

00:25:21

know, and

00:25:23

>> Wigum and but then all of a sudden I was

00:25:26

like, well, what if I really were a cop?

00:25:27

how would I really hand I felt like I

00:25:29

could put myself more into these even

00:25:31

stupid characters and it made things

00:25:34

funnier and and better which was

00:25:35

something I think you do naturally uh

00:25:39

Dana in in these voices did you ever

00:25:42

have to like feel like you had to step

00:25:43

up the acting or once you got the voice

00:25:45

you just clicked in?

00:25:46

>> Um kind of depends on the character. I

00:25:49

mean I think uh for me like with George

00:25:52

B senior I was just trying to learn it

00:25:54

with the audience. I didn't have a very

00:25:56

good one when I first was assigned it

00:25:59

because my character won the election

00:26:01

and so I was very, you know, and then as

00:26:03

I went further, I was more playful with

00:26:05

it because I was in a oneshot and the

00:26:08

studio was quiet. There wasn't any

00:26:10

editing where I met throw anyone else

00:26:12

off. So I said that area that thing and

00:26:15

then I would start taking it and then it

00:26:17

became it literally became probably two

00:26:20

years before we're not going to do it

00:26:22

before I he left it was like nah got to

00:26:26

do it and it it worked because the

00:26:29

audience was coming with me but if I

00:26:31

when I was doing Jimmy Stewart in it's a

00:26:33

Wonderful Life parody I was just trying

00:26:35

to be a really good uh Jimmy Stewart

00:26:38

actor completely channeling him as much

00:26:42

as I

00:26:43

And and sometimes you just feel it when

00:26:45

you're doing a character. You feel their

00:26:48

their s earnestness is in Jimmy

00:26:51

Stewart's thing. Everything is just

00:26:53

sincere, you know, at least in It's a

00:26:56

Wonderful Life.

00:26:57

>> Every everything is just sincere. Well,

00:26:59

we have Hank Aera on here. So, and a lot

00:27:03

of people are saying a lot of nice

00:27:04

things about him. So, I don't I don't

00:27:06

know. I mean, do you ever do like just

00:27:09

Why don't you you do a special uh with

00:27:13

where you do sketches?

00:27:15

>> I get I did I I've written a oneman

00:27:17

show. I've actually become one of those

00:27:19

people. And uh

00:27:21

>> yeah,

00:27:22

>> well that's kind of close what he's

00:27:23

saying anyway. That's not bad.

00:27:25

>> And um

00:27:27

>> actually it's pretty kind it kind of

00:27:29

talks about what I just told you about

00:27:30

that acting class thing. And I go into a

00:27:32

lot of uh kind of, you know, as one man

00:27:35

shows will sort of darker things about

00:27:38

um how it was like things that were

00:27:40

funny weren't so funny.

00:27:42

>> Um and how it was equally my desire to

00:27:46

be anybody else but myself that drove me

00:27:49

uh to do characters and voices.

00:27:51

>> Yeah.

00:27:52

>> You know,

00:27:53

>> uh

00:27:54

>> so yeah, I did that. I hopefully put

00:27:56

that up in New York uh this year.

00:27:58

>> Let's put it up.

00:27:59

>> Oh, really?

00:28:01

Yeah.

00:28:01

>> What's the Do you want to give us the

00:28:03

title of it or

00:28:04

>> Hank?

00:28:04

>> I I think it's called Listen, never

00:28:06

mind, which is what my mother used to

00:28:08

say to me all the time. Listen, never

00:28:10

mind.

00:28:11

>> She say, "Listen, never mind."

00:28:13

>> Yes.

00:28:14

>> That's funny. That's

00:28:15

>> Well, she was the most dismissive person

00:28:16

I ever knew.

00:28:17

>> I'm dismissive.

00:28:18

>> And she had a dismissive catchphrase,

00:28:20

which was, "Listen, never mind.

00:28:22

>> Oh, never mind. It's not worth it, isn't

00:28:24

it?"

00:28:24

>> Well, it was like, "Uh, mom, I'm really

00:28:26

hungry. Listen, never mind. There's

00:28:27

people starving." But they also didn't

00:28:30

make any sense. Like, mama, I think I

00:28:32

might have twisted my ankle. Listen,

00:28:34

never mind. It's almost Yam Kapora,

00:28:35

which doesn't make any sense. But

00:28:38

>> I like young people are starving. You're

00:28:39

like, do I have to join them?

00:28:42

>> Can can I eat? And then they're still

00:28:44

starving.

00:28:44

>> Exactly. You're going to play a lot of

00:28:46

different characters in the play or

00:28:48

>> Yeah. Well, it's it's it's really like a

00:28:50

life story. It's like a lot of the

00:28:52

origins of the voices. this was that guy

00:28:54

and that was that person and

00:28:56

>> and you know stuff like

00:28:58

>> I was I you know I do a young young

00:29:01

Alpuccino impression you know Godfather

00:29:03

Al

00:29:06

>> I'm dying here everybody's coming down

00:29:08

on me here that

00:29:10

>> love it

00:29:10

>> I was doing a play in West Hollywood

00:29:14

when I got the Simpsons audition I was

00:29:16

playing a drug dealer doing that voice

00:29:19

so I auditioned for Mo the bartender

00:29:22

with this voice and they want they said

00:29:25

can you make it grally we like the and

00:29:28

so to me grally is Bruce Springsteen

00:29:30

which I've been imitating since I was 15

00:29:33

years old that's fantastic

00:29:36

>> if you if you take young alino one end

00:29:40

>> and Bruce Springsteen in the other and

00:29:41

you mix them right in the middle there

00:29:43

that's motor bartender he's a mash up

00:29:45

there

00:29:46

>> so it's a lot of that kind of relaying

00:29:49

little origins of voices like that love

00:29:52

that stuff.

00:29:54

>> The kids do enjoy that.

00:29:56

>> I in the early days of of when Trump

00:29:59

came out, I was on some talk show and I

00:30:02

said it's really it's Regis Filman and

00:30:04

Brando coming together, you know.

00:30:08

Anyway, you ready for this? And then I

00:30:12

got to you know, I mean, you can see how

00:30:14

those two together.

00:30:15

>> I showed my 16-year-old son the

00:30:17

Godfather for the first time. So, I've

00:30:20

been working on my veto caron

00:30:22

impression.

00:30:22

>> Oh, good.

00:30:23

>> It's good for disciplining your boy. His

00:30:26

name's How's Helvator? Come over here.

00:30:31

>> Me and Dana were just talking about

00:30:32

Brando in the field at the end when he

00:30:35

like the kids playing

00:30:37

>> when he dies

00:30:39

>> with the teeth

00:30:41

and you're like, we were just saying I

00:30:43

don't even know if they knew what they

00:30:44

were doing. That tay Copel is like do

00:30:46

whatever you want on this one, you know.

00:30:50

And when you

00:30:51

>> in your mind, is Brando the greatest

00:30:54

film actor or or you have another

00:30:57

favorite?

00:30:58

>> Good one.

00:30:59

>> Well, he was so all over the place. You

00:31:03

know, there were some that were just

00:31:04

baffling. I mean, Veto Corleone is

00:31:07

definitely one of the best ever, and he

00:31:09

was to me like in Street Car and and On

00:31:12

the Waterfront, he was way ahead of his

00:31:14

time. Um, so was Jimmy Stewart actually

00:31:18

in my opinion like his performance in

00:31:19

It's a Wonderful Life was

00:31:22

>> breathtakingly realistic

00:31:24

in an era when they all sounded like

00:31:26

this. They all sounded like, you know,

00:31:27

>> Oh, that's right. Yeah.

00:31:29

>> Oh, and the darkness before his nervous

00:31:31

breakdown with the with you was saying,

00:31:34

"Why do I have to have all these kids?"

00:31:36

I mean, the movie is way heavier than

00:31:38

people think. And the theme of the movie

00:31:40

is so evergreen. I mean, just

00:31:43

>> it was a flop, too. No, it was so ahead

00:31:45

of its time. Nobody liked it when it

00:31:47

came out.

00:31:48

>> Capricorn, they called it. Yeah.

00:31:50

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

00:31:51

>> Yeah.

00:31:51

>> What? It's a Wonderful Life you're

00:31:52

talking about.

00:31:53

>> Yeah. Yeah. Bombed basically. It wasn't

00:31:56

>> Yeah. Just get it out of here.

00:31:58

>> Then they sold the movie out of my

00:32:00

theater.

00:32:01

>> I think it only really had its life by

00:32:03

the time it became public domain. I

00:32:05

think

00:32:06

>> TVs or

00:32:07

>> where everyone could just see it. I

00:32:08

think they Yeah, they're burning it off

00:32:09

at Christmas or something. I maybe I

00:32:11

heard this too. And then everyone got

00:32:13

into it.

00:32:14

>> Yeah.

00:32:15

>> You know, the Grinch never worked again

00:32:16

after that one.

00:32:19

>> All right. Whatever.

00:32:20

>> Oh, the Boff Grin.

00:32:22

>> No, just the Grinch.

00:32:24

>> Just the Grinch him. There have been a

00:32:25

lot of Grinches. Let's face it.

00:32:27

>> I do a bit laid.

00:32:28

>> I like those old timey actors as Bill

00:32:30

her calls him. Um, but I do a bit about

00:32:35

the world's first sociopath. Did people

00:32:37

know they had mental problems in ancient

00:32:39

times? And I I'm just using Peter Lori

00:32:42

and no one has busted me on it, you

00:32:44

know, like just just like where's

00:32:47

where's that Steve? I don't know what's

00:32:50

that hand coming out of the ground. It's

00:32:52

Steve. I killed him. Am I weird? I don't

00:32:56

know. But you got to stop that. So

00:32:58

anyway, it's just you can use those

00:33:00

characters and no one really reme

00:33:06

I was

00:33:08

still a movie. are now at the museum

00:33:11

tour.

00:33:11

>> Oh yeah, where you were evil shadow that

00:33:14

was as a joke. I just went should I do

00:33:16

Bord calloff? He was the original mummy

00:33:19

>> and Ben cracked up and said no you have

00:33:21

to do that

00:33:22

>> like really.

00:33:23

>> Um

00:33:25

>> so yeah and yes Peter Lori you can use

00:33:28

for sure.

00:33:30

>> Professor Frank is just uh was just a

00:33:32

nutty professor. Uh the Jerry Lewis

00:33:35

version of course. Yeah, they're so old

00:33:37

that nobody they think they're original

00:33:38

voices. Nobody recognizes.

00:33:40

>> I know. That's that's a really great use

00:33:42

of your your gift.

00:33:44

>> Lou the cop is Stallone. Is that what

00:33:46

you said?

00:33:47

>> Yeah. Lou the cop would

00:33:50

a bad Stallone, you know, and a little

00:33:53

toned down Stallone. Yeah.

00:33:55

>> Yeah. Very nasely there. When I you when

00:33:57

you do people like that like Boris

00:33:59

Caroff is it kind of informed like what

00:34:01

was in that guy's brain that somehow he

00:34:04

decided to talk like that because it's

00:34:06

almost feminine or and bizarre

00:34:08

>> wings back then

00:34:09

>> like what is where is who is that person

00:34:12

that's talking I mean

00:34:14

>> I think that's just the way he talked. I

00:34:17

really do very compelling.

00:34:19

>> A lot of those guys had very distinct I

00:34:22

mean they were Lori and Carlo I'm big

00:34:25

fans of both them. They were

00:34:26

unbelievable actor. They were just Oh,

00:34:28

yeah. Talk about,

00:34:29

>> you know, free to be themselves on

00:34:31

camera. They were just like and they

00:34:33

they brought a lot of, you know, reality

00:34:36

and grit to these weird oldfashioned

00:34:38

things.

00:34:39

>> Yeah. I mean, there's it's it it's sort

00:34:42

of I don't know if it's a trope at this

00:34:44

point, but doing for young

00:34:46

Impressionists doing modern movie stars,

00:34:49

I I just make a joke that I I do a

00:34:51

Timothy Shalom, but I just go, "What's

00:34:53

up, man?" And you know, I'm not with him

00:34:54

at all, but uh there was a cavalcade,

00:34:57

you know, between John Wayne and Kirk

00:34:59

Douglas and all of those old movie

00:35:01

stars. They just had really weird

00:35:03

voices. Who do we have? We do. We have

00:35:07

the same amount of

00:35:08

>> Who's today that's got a very

00:35:10

interesting

00:35:11

>> Who's Carrie Grant? Well, who's the guy

00:35:13

who talks like this?

00:35:14

>> We don't have one. We don't

00:35:16

>> Carrie Grant was great with that. Well,

00:35:18

I don't do in my I used to do uh Eric

00:35:22

Roberts.

00:35:23

>> Oh, yeah. That's a good one.

00:35:25

>> [ __ ] Greenwich Village, man.

00:35:29

>> They cut off

00:35:33

[ __ ] dumb.

00:35:36

>> I used to do uh Mickey Rock, too. I used

00:35:39

to like to do

00:35:40

>> Oh, really? I know what you're doing.

00:35:42

Counselor, but don't do it. It's from

00:35:43

Body Heat.

00:35:44

>> Yeah, Body Heat.

00:35:45

>> Body Heat. You know, Paul Greenwich for

00:35:47

Diner. Great movies.

00:35:49

>> Yeah, let me do it. I do it for you for

00:35:52

your counselor. And then this thing he

00:35:54

kept using in all his movies, right?

00:35:57

>> But now Mickey sounds like Why do all

00:35:59

the Why do old actors end up sounding

00:36:02

like this? What is this? You know, like

00:36:05

Pacino was like this, you know, and now

00:36:07

Al sounds like this. What is that?

00:36:10

>> Maybe they're projecting a fainter voice

00:36:12

or something. I have a theory that that

00:36:14

as the testosterone goes down and

00:36:16

they're older gentlemen, they make their

00:36:18

voice super alpha. You know,

00:36:21

>> hey, I'm 97.

00:36:26

How are you doing? You know, it's like I

00:36:29

guess that's great ass.

00:36:31

>> Exactly. I I hope it doesn't happen to

00:36:33

me. That's all I

00:36:35

>> Here's another thing I want to ask you

00:36:36

about.

00:36:37

Does it seem like

00:36:40

most actors get more theatrical movie

00:36:42

stars like Alpacino which I I love

00:36:44

Scarface? I'm possessed by it actually

00:36:47

as a as an oporadic movie

00:36:50

man you know all that stuff. Um, and

00:36:53

then Christopher Walkin also, if you see

00:36:55

him in the Woody Allen movie and where

00:36:57

he kind of made a character out of him,

00:36:59

but those are sort of recent times big

00:37:02

big time big voice actors

00:37:06

>> theories.

00:37:06

>> I don't know. Do they I mean Daniel um

00:37:09

Jeff Goldblum sort of similar.

00:37:11

>> Yeah, some of them do. I mean, some of

00:37:13

them get more subtle.

00:37:14

>> Oh, you asked me. I mean, Daniel D.

00:37:16

Lewis is amazing. I personally think

00:37:18

Robert Downey Jr. is maybe the American

00:37:21

genius of our time. I mean, I know he's

00:37:23

Iron Man and everything and that's what

00:37:25

we think of him as now, but

00:37:26

>> I don't

00:37:27

>> there's nothing the guy can't do really.

00:37:30

>> Yeah, he's he's he's freaky good. Freaky

00:37:32

good.

00:37:33

>> Um, but yeah, Chris Wong, I don't know.

00:37:35

He's amazing. Like some of these guys

00:37:38

just real Shatner, they realize that

00:37:40

they're sort of bigger than life and

00:37:42

they lean into it. Like Nicholson sort

00:37:44

of did the same thing later in his

00:37:46

career. Once people pick up on it, they

00:37:48

almost turn into that more. They turn

00:37:50

into the impression more.

00:37:51

>> Yeah.

00:37:52

>> Well, the rhythm of what Christopher

00:37:54

Walkan did is just so effective.

00:37:58

I don't know. Waiting for the wood. I

00:38:02

mean, it's like it's a brilliant song. I

00:38:04

I look at him as musically just

00:38:06

brilliant.

00:38:07

>> He talks in haikus,

00:38:09

>> which he is gifted that way. He comes

00:38:11

from musical theater. I really wonder I

00:38:14

worked with him once. I wanted to ask

00:38:16

him, but I never got up the nerve. I'm

00:38:17

like, do you plan this [ __ ] or is it

00:38:20

just what comes out? You know what I

00:38:21

mean?

00:38:22

>> Yeah.

00:38:24

>> Or does everyone expect this is how

00:38:26

we're hiring you? We want you to sound

00:38:29

like this because it's so

00:38:30

>> But was he improvising, you mean, or

00:38:32

just doing the rhythm of that voice in

00:38:35

such a

00:38:36

>> He would I mean, I didn't work with him

00:38:37

much. Uh, but he No, he was he pretty

00:38:40

much stuck to the script and

00:38:42

>> yeah,

00:38:42

>> it was kind of a little different each

00:38:44

time. But it just that delivery I I just

00:38:47

I wondered uh if he planned it on

00:38:49

Although did you see him in Severance?

00:38:52

>> Yes. Yeah. It was very small.

00:38:55

>> Very small.

00:38:56

>> Yeah. He can do whatever he wants.

00:38:58

>> Yeah.

00:38:58

>> I love him.

00:39:00

>> I did I was he was in Wayne's World 2

00:39:02

and that was kind of a thrill at the

00:39:04

time. I'm dressed as G and then he would

00:39:06

come up and his first line was Gar and

00:39:09

the way he would say it was so like he

00:39:11

was going to kill me. Goth

00:39:14

long long pause, you know. So I I

00:39:18

decided to do Luc Costello and then Mike

00:39:20

and I both went,

00:39:23

you know, one of the

00:39:25

>> that thing of fear. But Goth is like a

00:39:30

Yeah, it's got three syllables

00:39:32

>> that kills me. Whenever I run into him,

00:39:35

>> if I run into him, he says he sounds

00:39:38

like him to me in the brief times like

00:39:42

that. It's not like only when he's on

00:39:45

camera. He he was asking me if I ever

00:39:48

worked with an actor dog and um

00:39:51

>> Oh yeah,

00:39:52

>> remember he caught me off guard. But but

00:39:54

he was doing pauses. It was an odd

00:39:58

question and then he continued to ask

00:40:00

questions and I was like this is great

00:40:03

and I wish this was shot. Everything

00:40:06

he's saying is funny.

00:40:08

>> He does he is really he does have that

00:40:11

rhythm in real life.

00:40:12

>> Yeah.

00:40:12

>> He asked you did you ever work with an

00:40:14

actor dog? Is that what he was a lot of

00:40:17

stuff? We were waiting for a scene and

00:40:19

we're in the dark

00:40:20

>> and there's about four characters in

00:40:22

there waiting for action and they're

00:40:23

like holding

00:40:26

and uh there's a pause and he's in the

00:40:28

dark and then he goes, "David, I can't

00:40:31

really do him." He goes, "Hey, did you

00:40:34

ever work with an act dog?" And I go,

00:40:36

"Uh, weird."

00:40:39

>> I go, "I have there is

00:40:40

>> that's the funniest part." I go, "There

00:40:42

is one in this movie some other scenes."

00:40:45

>> And he goes, he goes, "They're good.

00:40:47

They they really they know what to do.

00:40:49

They're well trained. I go, "Yeah." And

00:40:51

then he paused and he goes, "Hey, have

00:40:55

you ever worked with an act cat?" And I

00:40:58

go, "An actor cat?" I go, "No, I don't."

00:41:00

I mean, then we're all kind of giggling

00:41:02

going, "Is he serious?" I go, "I don't I

00:41:05

don't think so." Because he goes he

00:41:07

goes, "They're no good because you tell

00:41:09

them what to do and they don't do it.

00:41:12

But if you yell or something to an act

00:41:14

catat, they jump." But that's that's

00:41:16

every cat would do that.

00:41:17

>> He'll go into the details

00:41:18

>> and I go, "Yeah." And then he goes,

00:41:20

"Ever work with an at the mouse."

00:41:23

>> No.

00:41:24

>> And I go, "I don't think there are that

00:41:26

many." And he goes, "He's making it up

00:41:27

at

00:41:27

>> there." I did mouse trap. Remember mouse

00:41:30

trap?

00:41:31

>> Oh, yeah. Nathan Lane was

00:41:34

uh

00:41:35

>> who was the other guy in that?

00:41:37

>> It wasn't Broadick, was it?

00:41:39

>> Matthew Broadick. No. So he goes, "You

00:41:42

tell a mouse

00:41:44

>> to go up, take a beat, and go to the

00:41:46

right, and they do it. They're smart."

00:41:49

He thinks they're smarter than cats,

00:41:51

which they maybe are. And then once he's

00:41:54

getting into how smart the actor mouses

00:41:56

are, then they go rolling.

00:41:59

And then we never never came up again.

00:42:01

>> Did you ever work with Anthony Hopkins?

00:42:03

He's another character. I never did,

00:42:06

>> but I know people um who uh collect

00:42:10

Nathan Lane stories. It was Lee Evans,

00:42:13

by the way. That's

00:42:15

>> Oh, yeah. Mouse Hunt with Nathan Lane.

00:42:18

>> Mouse Trap. Yeah, Mouse.

00:42:19

>> Uh

00:42:21

>> Oh, yeah. Yeah.

00:42:22

>> I just forgot. What did you say?

00:42:23

>> Nathan Lane stories. Oh, I just Anthony

00:42:26

Hopkins is also

00:42:27

>> No, never. Oh, he's on Yeah, he's got to

00:42:29

go up there. read reads the script 200

00:42:32

times, does no research, nothing. Reads

00:42:34

it, he said 200 times. He has the entire

00:42:37

script memorized. He had a Polaroid,

00:42:39

this is in the early 90s, of his

00:42:41

character, and he take it out of his

00:42:43

pocket. It was kind of crumpled up

00:42:44

Polaroid shot of himself and they're

00:42:46

going speed. And he would just put it up

00:42:48

against his face, look at it, and then

00:42:51

put it on his face and go

00:42:54

and then put it back in. And then he

00:42:56

would be the character. So he's got his

00:42:58

own way of doing

00:42:58

>> that's like Hannibal Lectctor like

00:43:00

>> I know there was a little bit of uh that

00:43:03

Dennis Hopper movie. What was that?

00:43:05

>> Blue

00:43:07

sniffing this [ __ ]

00:43:08

>> Yeah.

00:43:08

>> Um

00:43:10

>> yeah there's people who collect Chris

00:43:12

Walkan stories you know.

00:43:13

>> Yeah.

00:43:14

>> Like you know that actor Titus Welliver

00:43:17

>> uh Titus played that great detective

00:43:20

series um

00:43:21

>> sounds like a fake

00:43:22

>> in the books. Mhm.

00:43:23

>> Uh anyway, he does an unbelievably good

00:43:26

walking impression and uh apparently

00:43:29

like when he and Grace Jones were

00:43:31

shooting that Bond movie where they

00:43:32

played like villains together, you know,

00:43:34

he had like Grace Jones had like blonde

00:43:36

hair and

00:43:37

>> Yeah. They're shooting uh like in the

00:43:40

Swiss Alps or something and he and Grace

00:43:43

Jones walked into some, you know, local

00:43:47

little tavern or whatever. And you can

00:43:50

imagine and he had like white hair, I

00:43:52

think, and she had

00:43:53

>> and uh so the locals all kind of turned

00:43:55

around and stared at them,

00:43:58

>> as you might imagine.

00:43:59

>> And apparently Chris Walkan broke the

00:44:01

ice with cold slaw for everyone.

00:44:08

Oh, there's no story you could you could

00:44:09

say where you'd have to say which one is

00:44:11

real and which one is a fake walking

00:44:13

story.

00:44:13

>> No, it's Yeah.

00:44:15

>> indistinguishable.

00:44:17

>> Also, I think Titus happened to him

00:44:19

person. He was doing some film with him

00:44:20

and it was their day off. No, this is I

00:44:23

got this from the person though. This

00:44:25

wasn't like a secondhand story and

00:44:27

they're shooting somewhere and it's the

00:44:29

day off and

00:44:31

Chris is uh

00:44:35

they're walking somewhere and Chris is

00:44:36

like waiting. He's in the river like

00:44:38

he's in a creek or something. He's just

00:44:40

standing in water, you know, like a a

00:44:43

pool or I don't know where he was, but

00:44:46

it was odd. And they said, "Hey, Chris,

00:44:49

are are you okay?"

00:44:52

Because he was just standing in there.

00:44:54

>> Yeah.

00:44:54

>> And he apparently went, "Today I am an

00:44:58

alligator."

00:45:01

>> Today I am an alligator.

00:45:02

>> Yeah. All right, we're back in five.

00:45:06

I was hanging out with him for this

00:45:08

photo shoot in New York. He just ended

00:45:10

up on a couch with him for like an hour

00:45:13

and he was just interesting. He saw my

00:45:15

phone. Don't have a phone. No,

00:45:18

>> you know. Well,

00:45:19

>> do you have TV?

00:45:21

Don't watch it. No.

00:45:25

>> You don't watch TV. I mean, what do you

00:45:26

what do you do? What do you do at night?

00:45:28

He goes, "Magazines.

00:45:31

Magazines. Every night you read like

00:45:36

And then I asked him, "Do you paint?"

00:45:38

And he goes, "Of course I paint. All old

00:45:40

actors paint."

00:45:42

>> That's funny.

00:45:45

Some of the probably the most

00:45:46

uncomfortable moments of my life have

00:45:49

been spent like that. Like in between

00:45:51

takes with legendary actors or

00:45:55

>> you just run out of small talk after

00:45:57

like two or three days and then you know

00:45:59

like Jean Hackman for example.

00:46:01

>> Oh wow. What a

00:46:02

>> Oh, is that a bird cage? Yeah. Oh,

00:46:05

that's right. Birdman.

00:46:07

>> That incredible move. Perfect movie. You

00:46:09

were great in that.

00:46:10

>> Thank you very much. Mike Nichols is

00:46:12

amazing. But yeah, Gene Hackman

00:46:15

um you know, he just doesn't

00:46:19

suffer fools really, which you turn into

00:46:21

around I get very like wound up around

00:46:24

>> Oh, yeah.

00:46:25

>> people I admire, you know.

00:46:27

>> I He's intimidating. Go ahead.

00:46:29

>> He's a big He's one of my favorites.

00:46:31

>> He is amazing and he was very nice. And

00:46:33

then but he just doesn't once the small

00:46:36

talk was done he just didn't feel the

00:46:37

need to

00:46:39

>> you know but you know I like how you're

00:46:40

like you just said with Chris what

00:46:41

you're but you're there together for

00:46:43

many minutes like waiting for action or

00:46:45

whatever you're doing.

00:46:46

>> Yeah. Yeah.

00:46:47

>> By the way this is a world of no phones

00:46:49

so it's not like people go back to their

00:46:50

phones. It's like sitting in silence

00:46:53

>> and sometimes you just got to let them

00:46:55

just sit there. Well, you're just

00:46:57

thinking what could you say to Jean

00:47:00

Hackman at that moment in time that he

00:47:03

would sit up and go, "Yeah." and start

00:47:06

you like like turn him on basically like

00:47:08

get him really excited.

00:47:09

>> I did a movie called The Ultimate of

00:47:11

This. I did a movie called Mystery

00:47:13

Alaska. It was this hockey movie.

00:47:15

>> Hockey and uh uh Bert Reynolds was in

00:47:18

it. Okay. Okay. And I had this one scene

00:47:20

with Bert

00:47:21

>> and

00:47:22

>> Bert Reynolds uh absolutely had like an

00:47:26

oldfashioned movie star freakout

00:47:29

meltdown

00:47:31

>> like just screaming at the top of his

00:47:34

lung.

00:47:34

>> Really?

00:47:35

>> Yeah.

00:47:36

>> Why? Or just tell the story.

00:47:38

>> He uh Oh my

00:47:41

>> It was Oh, it was the weekend he was

00:47:43

nominated for Boogie Nights. Okay.

00:47:46

>> Oh, Boogie Nights. Yeah. shooting in the

00:47:48

in the Canadian Rockies near Calgary in

00:47:53

like the middle of the

00:47:55

middle of nowhere and we had to get

00:47:58

shoot him out so that he'd get back to

00:47:59

LA and do press, you know, for the

00:48:01

Oscars that

00:48:02

>> Yeah.

00:48:03

>> And so, uh, we rehearse, uh, the scene a

00:48:07

little bit and, uh, Bird also had one of

00:48:10

those old actor voices at that point. He

00:48:14

says to the director, which was uh Jay

00:48:15

Roach,

00:48:17

>> oh, Austin Powers. Yeah.

00:48:18

>> Yes. If you like, I can uh stand up on

00:48:21

this line.

00:48:23

>> Jay says, "Yeah, maybe." So, I just

00:48:25

might save your shot cuz because that

00:48:29

[ __ ] over there said it's GOING TO BE A

00:48:32

LONG [ __ ] NIGHT. IT'S POINTING AT A

00:48:34

producer who I guess it said it's going

00:48:36

to be a long night.

00:48:36

>> Oh, because Oh, because Bert just made a

00:48:38

suggestion kind of. No,

00:48:40

>> I think just cuz we were night shooting

00:48:42

and I guess Bert was feeling codependent

00:48:44

because we had to shoot him out by

00:48:45

midnight

00:48:46

>> to get on a helicopter to go to the

00:48:48

Oscars.

00:48:49

>> Yeah.

00:48:49

>> And he he literally he like flipped out

00:48:51

on the guy. Just absolutely flipped up.

00:48:54

Bert's a scary

00:48:55

>> That was pretty intense what you just

00:48:57

did.

00:48:57

>> Sorry. I didn't mean to scare you.

00:48:58

>> No, no. I mean, use that the next time

00:49:00

you're in a movie. I go, "Oh, well, do

00:49:02

what you did on Flying the Wall."

00:49:03

>> Well, thanks to Roy London. I I didn't

00:49:04

commit. I can relay it. Yes, it was

00:49:07

terrifying. But the point is he flips

00:49:08

out. We calm them down and we're

00:49:11

waiting. They're setting up the lights

00:49:12

and we couldn't go anywhere because

00:49:14

we're it was a snowstorm and we're in

00:49:15

the set and all of us were together, the

00:49:18

crew and the cast, the producers,

00:49:19

everyone. And I sat there for 20 minutes

00:49:21

and Bert sits next to me because we're

00:49:23

waiting to shoot and I racked my brain

00:49:25

for like what do you possibly say to

00:49:27

somebody

00:49:28

>> after?

00:49:29

>> Yes.

00:49:30

>> Okay. I want to know David, what would

00:49:32

you say? Then we're going to find out

00:49:33

what happened. David, what would you say

00:49:34

in that moment? It's like a game show.

00:49:36

I'd say, who do you think the Cardinals

00:49:38

are gonna pick in the draft?

00:49:40

>> I would say, you know, Bert, that guy

00:49:42

over there. You're right. [ __ ] that guy.

00:49:44

>> Prick.

00:49:45

>> That's what I would have done that.

00:49:47

>> That prick was talking [ __ ] to me

00:49:48

earlier, too, Bert.

00:49:50

>> Yeah. So, what happened?

00:49:52

>> I thought many things like that, and I'm

00:49:55

sitting there literally just I I can't

00:49:58

get up and walk away because I'm

00:49:59

terrified to make him angry. I don't

00:50:02

know what to do. And finally, he broke

00:50:04

the silence. I swear to God this is

00:50:06

true. He leaned into me very quietly and

00:50:09

he said

00:50:12

>> I uh

00:50:14

I never told Sally I loved her.

00:50:17

>> Whoa.

00:50:18

>> I said what?

00:50:20

>> Wow.

00:50:21

>> I should uh I should I said oh you mean

00:50:25

you're talking about Sally Field, aren't

00:50:26

you?

00:50:27

>> Wow.

00:50:27

>> Because they were like famously a

00:50:29

couple.

00:50:30

>> Yeah.

00:50:30

>> But like 25 years before that,

00:50:33

>> right? So why he chose that moment to

00:50:36

break

00:50:37

>> that silence with that statement, I will

00:50:40

never know.

00:50:41

>> It felt like, you know, sometimes when

00:50:43

people have PTSD or redundant things

00:50:46

they need to get out, you were like

00:50:47

fresh meat. You were someone to tell.

00:50:49

And obviously he intuited that you were

00:50:52

a very decent person. Right.

00:50:54

>> Right. So

00:50:55

>> that would be a very positive spin on

00:50:57

that story. I think you're right.

00:50:58

>> I'm trying to be positive.

00:51:00

>> I think it's nice.

00:51:01

>> Here's what I would have said as a

00:51:02

backup. Look, I I I don't I don't mean

00:51:05

to fan out, but your your performance in

00:51:08

Deliverance is one of the greatest

00:51:09

things ever put on film. Anyway, I got I

00:51:11

gota get Can I get you something at

00:51:13

catering? Would that work?

00:51:16

>> Vanity play.

00:51:17

>> Yes, that would have actually worked.

00:51:19

>> They have chili cups. I'll get you a

00:51:20

chili cup. I'll be

00:51:21

>> or some other more obscure movie maybe,

00:51:24

you know. But yeah,

00:51:25

>> Sharkies Machine.

00:51:27

>> Sharks Machine.

00:51:28

>> Smokey and the Bandit 2 with Gleason.

00:51:33

But Jackie,

00:51:33

>> famous story about um apparently James

00:51:37

El Brooks offered Bert Reynolds the

00:51:40

Nicholson role in terms of endearment.

00:51:43

>> That's what I read too.

00:51:44

>> And he turned it down to do like stroker

00:51:46

race or something.

00:51:50

>> I don't understand that.

00:51:51

>> He might have been still upset about

00:51:52

that. That might have contributed to the

00:51:55

>> Well, wait. Last thing. I know we got to

00:51:57

get going. But Sharky's machine,

00:51:59

they cut off his hand. Cut off his

00:52:01

thumb. Am I crazy? When I was a kid, I

00:52:03

saw

00:52:03

>> finger. I think it's pinky.

00:52:06

>> Was he was he a lone shark or a fixer or

00:52:09

something?

00:52:10

>> He was a cop. He was a cop.

00:52:12

>> Oh, he's a cop.

00:52:13

>> And he's getting too close to like the

00:52:14

mob. I've seen this.

00:52:15

>> Yeah. Got too close to the heat.

00:52:17

>> Yes. And it turns out one of his fellow

00:52:19

cops betrayed him.

00:52:20

>> Oh,

00:52:21

>> and they like they they got him and and

00:52:23

uh they need to know where he's fallen

00:52:26

in love with. Who is that gorgeous

00:52:27

actress? Rachel Ward. Oof.

00:52:30

>> And she's this prostitute who knows too

00:52:32

much and he's got her stash somewhere

00:52:34

and they need to know where and they

00:52:36

start chopping off his fingers by the

00:52:39

joint. You know,

00:52:41

>> you know what's funny? This is a side

00:52:42

story, but these beautiful well-known

00:52:44

actresses almost every movie they're

00:52:47

like in this scene you're just going to

00:52:48

be completely naked. And they're like,

00:52:50

"Okay, rolling." It was like, you know

00:52:53

what I mean? It just at some point it

00:52:54

just stopped. But for a while there, I

00:52:56

was like, "Is everyone just going along

00:52:57

with this?" I think it was you couldn't

00:53:00

really

00:53:00

>> fight it.

00:53:02

>> Some actresses drew the line, but yeah,

00:53:04

back then it was sort of standard. You

00:53:07

ever do a scene where you had to be

00:53:09

naked with someone like

00:53:10

>> Yeah.

00:53:11

>> sex scene or

00:53:12

>> whatever.

00:53:13

>> It's one of the weirdest things ever.

00:53:15

>> It's one of the grossest for them.

00:53:17

>> That's weird. Uh

00:53:19

>> I did I did this thing with Kelly Lynch.

00:53:22

Okay.

00:53:23

>> And she had a nudity clause, so it

00:53:25

couldn't be her nude. So, you had to be

00:53:28

the

00:53:29

>> Well, I I mean, they didn't they didn't

00:53:31

>> Your call said you had to be there. They

00:53:32

>> didn't show any my money parts, but no,

00:53:35

but at at one point, we're doing this

00:53:37

scene and it's like a porno. It's like a

00:53:39

porn like, "Okay, now you know they like

00:53:41

the director like yells, "Oh, so now

00:53:42

kiss down her body. Okay, now like he'll

00:53:45

direct you like how to, you know, what

00:53:47

foreplay to engage in really." So then

00:53:49

they call cut and you do that with with

00:53:52

Telly and she goes out and they bring h

00:53:55

they bring in this this body double.

00:53:58

>> Oh. Oh. Oh wow.

00:53:59

>> And they say, "Hi, this is uh this is

00:54:01

Jennifer. Hi. Nice to meet you." And the

00:54:03

robe off. She's naked. And she gets in

00:54:06

bed

00:54:07

>> and and then you do the stuff that now

00:54:10

they can show the nudity. Okay. So kiss

00:54:13

down her body. Okay. Okay. Go back now.

00:54:16

Kiss back up. And now like Okay. Fondler

00:54:19

brass snout and so and you do that for a

00:54:22

take like cut great we got it and and

00:54:24

she's gone and you never see her again

00:54:26

I'm sure that there are prostitutes and

00:54:29

John's who had much more of an exchange

00:54:31

than I have with

00:54:33

>> Did you find yourself hanging out you

00:54:35

know for the close-up so like okay it's

00:54:37

the moment of he's in he's just he's

00:54:39

penetrated you and and you want her

00:54:42

reaction you could tell the the size of

00:54:45

the member but he's like you know

00:54:48

Do you know what I'm saying? Like

00:54:52

>> so you can be there. Go,

00:54:53

>> No, honey. I'm bigger than that. So, can

00:54:55

you react more?

00:54:56

>> Yeah. It's going to be It's going to be

00:54:58

quite a thing. So, could you get a

00:55:00

little bigger in your close up? Like,

00:55:01

>> or the director, it's whatever he's

00:55:03

into, he's like, "Now, kiss up her elbow

00:55:04

and kind of chew it a little bit."

00:55:06

Everyone,

00:55:07

>> well, it was kind of like that, you

00:55:09

know? It was like, okay, that's how you

00:55:10

do that. But the funny thing is the

00:55:12

movie I'm watching, let's say I watch

00:55:14

that movie, I think it's Kelly Lynch, so

00:55:16

she's not really saving anything. It's

00:55:18

like, oh, those are boobs. They don't

00:55:20

show her face, but I guess those are her

00:55:22

boobs. I don't know.

00:55:23

>> Totally. I mean, yeah, but you know.

00:55:26

>> Yeah. I miss the old I miss the

00:55:28

oldfashioned movies where the woman

00:55:29

would pound the guy's chest. You're an

00:55:31

impossible beast. And then they'd make

00:55:34

out.

00:55:34

>> Yeah. Then it's that's four points.

00:55:35

>> You're impossible beast.

00:55:36

>> That's what I like, Dana.

00:55:38

>> I like those. We've never brought up

00:55:40

that subject of reaction shots on

00:55:42

simulated sex before. That's a first.

00:55:45

>> That's a good area.

00:55:45

>> I just wanted uh I wanted to break

00:55:47

ground here.

00:55:48

>> No, no. I brought up the thing of you

00:55:50

being on set going I need a little bit

00:55:52

of reaction, please.

00:55:53

>> Dana, do you need to ask an anything

00:55:55

other than

00:55:56

>> Well, I would just do this real quick

00:55:57

because I I um you're very interesting

00:56:01

to talk to and this is an impossible

00:56:03

thing to ask people, but in no

00:56:06

particular order, top five movies all

00:56:08

time. No particular order because it's

00:56:10

saying one, two, three, four, five.

00:56:12

>> We've talked like I, you know, it's it's

00:56:14

a very boring list.

00:56:15

>> Godfather one and two. There's two

00:56:17

>> Good Fellas for sure. Which I like to

00:56:19

think of as Godfather 3. I replace the

00:56:22

actual Godfather.

00:56:23

>> Yeah. Okay. Those are all

00:56:25

>> It's a Wonderful Life. Absolutely. Is in

00:56:27

my top five.

00:56:28

>> Okay. You can go to 10 if you've got so

00:56:30

many.

00:56:31

>> I don't know. Those are really uh huge

00:56:33

among

00:56:34

>> um ones that I just like um long time

00:56:37

when I I appreciate Jaws a lot.

00:56:40

>> Yeah, it's a great film.

00:56:41

>> I appreciate Alien a lot.

00:56:44

>> Yeah.

00:56:45

>> I love I love um probably the time I saw

00:56:49

it, I was 14 when I saw uh 2001 of Space

00:56:52

Odyssey. I love Planet of the Apes.

00:56:54

>> Boom. I love Redford in the 70s. I love

00:56:58

I love all the President's Men. The

00:57:00

President's Men is definitely in my top

00:57:02

10 at least.

00:57:02

>> We've seen it recently. My wife and I

00:57:04

hadn't seen it in a few years and holy

00:57:06

[ __ ] does it hold up.

00:57:07

>> Totally. More relevant than

00:57:10

>> it's so brilliant and and relevant

00:57:13

everything. Um, Three Days of the

00:57:15

Condor, Butch Casting, Sundance Kid. Um,

00:57:19

>> oh, the Sting I would put way up there.

00:57:21

>> The Redford Newman. Redford got uh

00:57:23

Newman got more subtle as he went along

00:57:26

as an older actor,

00:57:27

>> but Redford was always we haven't had a

00:57:30

blue-eyed wasp held back movie star that

00:57:34

well we just watched the horse whisperer

00:57:35

the other night, you know, and uh he he

00:57:38

just had a he hadn't he's just movie

00:57:40

star. I don't know. I mean, they never

00:57:42

gave him an acting award, but he's and

00:57:44

he was did he not win?

00:57:45

>> He was behind all the movies. Sydney

00:57:48

Pollock and were collaborating and

00:57:50

finally he does ordinary people. So

00:57:52

anyway, he's an interesting God rest his

00:57:54

soul character.

00:57:55

>> No, I I my I did quiz show for him.

00:57:58

>> Oh, that's right.

00:57:59

>> My first big movie that I got

00:58:02

>> and uh thanks to Roy London and I just

00:58:05

ran into um John Terturo who was in that

00:58:08

as well just the other night.

00:58:10

>> Another great great actor.

00:58:11

>> He's incredible. Uh but um yeah, that

00:58:17

they don't make him like Redford and and

00:58:19

Newman anymore or Bur Reynolds. I used

00:58:21

to love Charles Bronson, too.

00:58:23

>> Charles Bronson.

00:58:24

>> Oh, yeah. God, that guy was awesome.

00:58:27

>> In the modern era, who are you? Are you

00:58:30

a Christopher Nolan or or Tarantino or

00:58:33

both? Who's your favorite director? Or

00:58:36

do you like um who's the guy who did um

00:58:39

Sideways and Descendants?

00:58:42

>> Oh, Alex. Um

00:58:43

>> the director.

00:58:45

>> Yeah, Alex. Is it Alex?

00:58:47

>> No,

00:58:47

>> Alexander Payne. Alexander Payne.

00:58:49

>> Alex. It is Alex. Yeah.

00:58:51

>> Uh Nolan at his best. I'm a I'm a comic

00:58:54

book geek and so I love what he did.

00:58:58

>> Well, the reboot that first reboot with

00:59:00

Christopher Reale

00:59:02

for sure. Uh but when when Christopher

00:59:04

Nolan gets too plays with time too much,

00:59:07

it drives me crazy. I can't handle

00:59:09

>> I Well, that's I saw Dunkirk. I felt the

00:59:12

same way. I couldn't deal.

00:59:13

>> I liked it,

00:59:14

>> but but then I saw it a few years later.

00:59:17

there was a reissue and I I kind of knew

00:59:20

what was happening in terms of that. So

00:59:22

then I fell in love with the movie.

00:59:25

>> All those time jumps that you're not

00:59:27

sure.

00:59:27

>> There was Inception and then there was

00:59:29

Tenant, right?

00:59:30

>> Yeah.

00:59:31

>> Those get very Yeah, those are

00:59:34

>> they get meta on themselves to a point

00:59:36

where like you can't going on anymore.

00:59:39

>> Inception. I like Tenant was a

00:59:40

challenge, but I do like Once Upon a

00:59:43

Time in Hollywood a lot. Oh, I Tarantino

00:59:46

at his best is pretty. I loved Once Upon

00:59:49

and I had

00:59:50

>> I saw it 11 times.

00:59:52

>> Un I had no clue. I knew nothing about

00:59:56

it when I saw it.

00:59:58

>> Yeah.

00:59:58

>> And so I'm thinking, you know, this is

01:00:00

heading towards, you know, Sharon Tate

01:00:02

disaster.

01:00:04

>> And my mind was so blown by that like

01:00:07

>> alternate ending of like Yeah. I ju I

01:00:09

just what a great use of a movie star

01:00:11

like Brad Pitt to just like erase

01:00:14

history like that and and save the day.

01:00:17

>> I remember your white little face and

01:00:19

you were on a horsey. Are I'm as real as

01:00:23

a hot dog [ __ ] Yeah, I that whole movie

01:00:26

and you know Leo was so great in that

01:00:30

too. Let's face it. I'm a good goddamn

01:00:31

it has been. Don't cry in front of the

01:00:34

Mexicans.

01:00:36

>> He's incredible too. I always wanna

01:00:39

dislike Leo DiCaprio and then I I see

01:00:42

I'm like I gotta give it up. He's just

01:00:43

He's great. Not good. He's great.

01:00:46

>> He doesn't make sense. Goodlook. Has it

01:00:48

all then he's really

01:00:51

>> Yeah,

01:00:51

>> that's true. Anyway, well, we kept you a

01:00:54

little longer, but I I love talking

01:00:56

about movies and everything.

01:00:57

>> Me, too.

01:00:58

>> Feel feel good about yourself. I I read

01:01:00

that you would be would have been a

01:01:01

therapist, maybe if you

01:01:03

>> Oh, yeah. I was all set to go back to

01:01:04

grad school for psychology and then I've

01:01:06

got the Simpsons basically. So, and I

01:01:09

still have it. So,

01:01:11

>> that's that's that run what you've

01:01:13

talked about. It's just it's it's

01:01:15

incomprehensible that it's lasted this

01:01:17

long and stayed at this quality. And

01:01:19

you're the 89 all the way through.

01:01:22

>> It's extraordinary.

01:01:23

>> Yeah. I took I I took over the crown

01:01:25

from there was a ceremony last year

01:01:27

where I was dubbed luckiest man in show

01:01:29

business. that took the crown away from

01:01:31

Alan Thick who had preceded.

01:01:34

>> Really?

01:01:34

>> Yeah.

01:01:35

>> Alan Thick.

01:01:37

>> Uh well, that's uh Yeah. I don't know. I

01:01:39

Yeah, that that that whole thing. Yeah.

01:01:41

But you're brilliant at it. So, I mean,

01:01:44

it's it's not like they could take Let's

01:01:46

get an actor and have him do a funny

01:01:47

voice, you know? It's a lot.

01:01:48

>> Well, now AI can probably do it, but

01:01:50

that's a whole other story.

01:01:52

>> I know.

01:01:52

>> We have AI on after you.

01:01:55

>> I'm a digital copy of Dana Carby's right

01:01:58

now.

01:01:58

a joke, but could

01:02:01

>> you know the test? Put the hand in front

01:02:02

of the face. You ever heard that?

01:02:04

>> No.

01:02:05

>> They show them on Zooms, these people

01:02:06

that are fake interviewing for things.

01:02:08

>> Really?

01:02:09

>> They go, "Put your hands in front of

01:02:10

your face." And he goes, "Why would I

01:02:11

have to do that?" You go, "Just put your

01:02:13

hand in front of your face." And they

01:02:14

can't go like that. I don't know why.

01:02:16

>> Really? That's

01:02:16

>> And they talk about it. They won't do

01:02:18

it. And they go, "Thank you." That's

01:02:20

all. They can't do it. So that means

01:02:22

>> that's terrifying.

01:02:23

>> They don't want to show. That's weird.

01:02:26

Yeah,

01:02:26

>> they're finding these little glitches.

01:02:28

>> Yeah. Well, the soon they'll fix that,

01:02:30

too.

01:02:31

>> Yeah, that's a that's

01:02:33

>> This is still baby AI. This is infant

01:02:35

AI.

01:02:36

>> Yeah, just wait eight more months. It'll

01:02:38

be a mature.

01:02:39

>> Okay, not scare us. I'm scared.

01:02:40

>> No, it's really true. I don't I'm not sc

01:02:43

I think it's really cool. I read this

01:02:46

thing where like and the odds are better

01:02:48

than I thought. You know, the [ __ ] that

01:02:51

can go wrong is intense, of course.

01:02:53

>> And but there's only like a 20% chance

01:02:56

of that.

01:02:58

>> It's like 80% likely that it will all be

01:03:00

fine and just

01:03:01

>> Yeah. That's a little too high for me.

01:03:03

>> Yeah. I thought it was more coin flip.

01:03:06

>> Yeah.

01:03:06

>> Um

01:03:07

>> Well, when you think about like would

01:03:09

you get on a plane if I said, "Listen,

01:03:10

you got 80% chance of landing."

01:03:12

>> You're not going to Yeah.

01:03:13

>> Well, I get on a plane thinking I have a

01:03:15

1% chance. So, I mean, I'm not I don't

01:03:17

like flying. Where's all the fixing

01:03:19

cancer and everything? AI, come on now.

01:03:21

Let's go.

01:03:21

>> Well, they're gonna give us fusion

01:03:23

energy, unlimited clean energy, and

01:03:25

they're gonna cure all these diseases,

01:03:28

cancer and Parkinson's and all that.

01:03:29

Let's just hope it does that in the

01:03:31

first few weeks

01:03:33

>> when it doesn't see us as the disease.

01:03:36

>> Well, that every science fiction movie,

01:03:37

we had it in 2001. The AI turns on the

01:03:40

humans. Yeah. The only problem with the

01:03:42

earth are humans is we've seen it in,

01:03:45

you know, Isaac and all these science

01:03:47

fiction books and everything.

01:03:49

>> Yeah.

01:03:50

>> My son's named Hal, so I take it really

01:03:52

personal.

01:03:53

>> Ba based on how the computer No.

01:03:56

>> No, it's despite despite that, I just

01:03:58

like the name. I love Hal Ashby and

01:03:59

Halbrook.

01:04:01

>> Oh, okay. I like both.

01:04:03

>> We're looking for an age name. So

01:04:05

>> that's cool. Yeah. Hal.

01:04:07

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