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so this week is Joe Coy who is a good uh buddy uh we see out uh killing it out
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there in the stand-up World selling out Arenas and yeah just really shaking it up and sometimes what we do on the show
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is we take someone a little out of the SNL box and just you know we want to expand a little bit
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as we move along Joe is a great guy who's everyone's touched in some way by
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SNL or the people on it so he was a perfect candidate for that yeah he's
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become a superstar stand up and he talks about his journey to get the standard
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world to pay attention to him the whole story around Netflix that's you Ted's around us and his success so it's a you
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know it's a really interesting story he's a very likable guy lots of energy yes
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yeah as a big following and uh very light in his feet very fun to talk to
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and great stand-up we think you will like this episode so stick around [Music]
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yeah and I cry and I cried uh that was very uh I know I never forgot that so
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Joe was opening for John Levitt John Lovett in San Francisco yeah and
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Joe was his opener and unknown then basically and then when I met you you
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got very emotional I thought it was really sweet I tried to understand it and take it in but it was like and that
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now I've watched you marching towards super stardom so it's kind of cool could
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you why are you crying I am right now why do you think I have these glasses on I can't even look at them
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I no you know it's uh you know I was just talking about this the other day to uh my my video guy Josh and I was just
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like um you know you meet people like like you know it's hard when fans
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walk up and just say hi to you it takes a lot it takes a lot for someone to just go oh my God I love your work and
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sometimes we don't understand that you know because we're on the other side right yeah but but
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um but to experience that with you now I understand where my fans are coming from
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because what you meant to me is the reason why I'm doing what I'm doing like I when I when I was in love with
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Saturday Night Live and watching stand up just every single day and and watching you make me laugh and going to
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school and imitating you um you know the next day imitating whatever bit that I saw you do uh church
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later yeah you know the everything Hans and prawns everything that you did like
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um but it was my escape from reality and it was also like I was going through such a depression with my family at that
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time you know my mom and dad divorced my brother dealing with you know schizo Supreme and going back and forth in the
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hospital like it was my it was my escape to just enjoy laughter and and I needed
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people like you and and you know Dennis Smith spade and and everybody
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and I'm not just saying that to say that because you're here David it's like for real like in and it meant a lot and and
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when I saw you uh once again like the childhood came back and the emotions
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came back that I didn't know I had inside me so it came out it was just like oh here's my hero uh you know and I
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also and you're you're now on the other side of the fence but when I would meet people like Martin Short who I saw on
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SCTV when I was in college and I'm thinking he's awesome he kind of looked like I could be his cousin and I want to
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do what he's doing so when you see someone who is doing what you want to do before you do it you always kind of are
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tricked out whenever you meet them you know there's like a hierarchy and now you have people coming up to you that
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are getting emotional and you don't understand bro you know and it's very sweet and you have to just take it in
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because as performers were always thinking that wasn't so good or I got to get better or you know we always have
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that self-deprecating side but anyway it was nice but tell me about your divorce and this schizophrenia in your family as
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a uh such a great transition wait I I want to
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say I get Star Struck too and I and Dana we all do and I think that's good that we're not so jaded because whether it's
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in the comedy world of course is Steve Martin's the people you grew up with Eddie Murphy anyone from SNL I would see
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and even like bands that mean a lot and the hardest part is when you do get the balls to say something oh thanks and
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you're you're like no you don't get it when people say to me I try to give them a second or something because I try to
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want them to understand that I get it I don't even but you don't know how to handle it on this end
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um when a McCartney or I remember Jack Nicholson and people have you met him
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and I go well I've met him but it's not met him it's like shook his hand in a group like hey this this and then one
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time got to sit next to him and then if you talk you really ultimately selfishly
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you want them to know you now from something and then like it and then it and if they light up a little bit then
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that's the most fun if they go oh I saw you and you go oh and then it's it feels like a little more even than than just
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like oh thanks it's like oh I think the key and I I've coached people about it
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because they'll ask me what do I do when I meet a celebrity and I said be very specific don't say I liked your work
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you know say uh Joe in your second special when you did your mom in this
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part that oh me and my friend share those rhythms we do impressions of you and we're bonding over your comedy
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that's that's kind of the ultimate compliment right when people are moved by your specials and your comedy and
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just share it and want to talk I love that yeah I love that when I get it from someone that's like in the entertainment
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world as I am and they say stuff like that but I I can care less do you know
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who I am or not like when I met David I I that was the first thing I said to David like I I love you like because I
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mean it like I I I care less if you know my work I don't care it's like you're
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the reason why I'm doing what I'm doing I watched all your stuff when you used to do any of the Improv I watched
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audience I was in Phoenix like that one moved me when you did the one in Phoenix it's just like all right it was just
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like like I don't care I don't I I don't need validation from anybody I'm gonna tell you
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that what you meant to me is special because there's a there there's things that motivate people and there's things
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that inspire people and if without without those things in in this world that there no
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one's going to be motivated to do anything well I was I had the same thing Joe what I was guest hosting for Kimmel
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and David was guest the second night and I didn't plan this but Quentin Tarantino I'd ask for him well who do you want I
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go well Quentin Tarantino so then when he came out and I'm the host and they're all applauding for him I just
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instinctively said I love you because I know you from your work and you're
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you're speaking to me right and uh I didn't know if I was too gushy or embarrassing but to your point I didn't
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care this is just a visceral emotional thing so yeah yeah well I'll do one more
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and I'll stop but no I want to hear I was in New York and we were just shopping and uh and then Chris Rock
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acknowledged me walked had full-on conversation and I know this is your guys's guy but he was my hero too like
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you know I mean was such a big special in my life and uh and when he
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acknowledged me I didn't go to him he came to me and was like acknowledging my
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work and what I do and I was just like wow I was floored I was like you're the king man like what are you what's going
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on right now so that that was a special moment that does mean a lot though it makes it all in your head you're like
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[ __ ] so people do see this [ __ ] I do yeah because you sometimes just do it and you get nervous and you move to the
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next thing yeah and it's lonely it stand Stan is lonely like they don't understand what
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how many hotel rooms we've seen and how we
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stick gratification like like the Applause break and the laughter that that means oh okay you like that you
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like that and then and then for some reason in the industry we don't get like the same type of Love or acknowledgment
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right away it's it's weird so when you get like you get somebody like like you
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or or Chris saying hey I like your work it it means a lot to us yeah because emotionally with the people around you
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handlers agents managers whatever you could do the craziest special and get
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booked on two Arenas tour just stuff happening to in the last few years and
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then it's like oh yeah yeah well now we gotta work on the next thing and go wait a minute yeah I'm playing the chase
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Center [ __ ] can we toast so two two can we just take
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a knee for a bit because the first time I got a million dollar check or something in the 90s all right so that's
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that I go wait a minute can we just like say a prayer you know Dana used to tell
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me when um I would uh talk about like gigs or if money was coming in and he was saying
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you know when we go to the Improv you do these shows and sometimes they'll kick you 200 bucks or you know you you grew
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up getting cash like I drive your gig I get 20 bucks in Arizona then I got older I got like 75 for a gig and then you get
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cash and sometimes you do a whole week at a club and you get like three grand cash but that meant so much but now Dana
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was explaining because it's not as much fun with everything it's a number on a monthly statement and some numbers are
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just moved around you're like does that mean anything like I just want to have it in my hand I don't really get it anymore you don't you don't get it I did
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Comedians in Cars right Cold Hard Cash give me Jerry Seinfeld understands this
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if you do the car show with him he hands me an envelope accounts with all cash and I felt like
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that was the highest paint thing I'd had in 30 years I put it in a box I used it for months tips it feels real yeah here
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it is and he goes close the envelope they're looking it was the film crew don't don't let them see it come on
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but anyway Joe Coy is our guest today
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[Music] let's tell Joe because we know uh obviously people know Joe Coy from all
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the stuff but we do talk about SNL we talk about comedy in general but was there any time growing up I don't know
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where exactly you were in the world but did you do you remember seeing SNL and feeling like that was something that
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clicked with you uh yeah it was it was my life uh it was everything it from you
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know especially when they they switched their hands over when it slowly went over yeah so the young guys when it went
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to uh to David and that whole that whole so you were there you were sort of in the Dana
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Dennis Miller love it that's where we started watching I go way back to Piscopo oh [ __ ] okay oh my God that was
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such a huge fan of uh SNL and SCTV yeah yeah and there was another show called
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Fridays yeah I don't know of course I remember that yeah totally and and then of course you know Kids in the Hall that
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came you know that was like oh yeah but it was just I was so like in love with the freedom that you guys have with your
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sketches like I loved sitcoms but I love what what you guys were doing with sketches like I I was just enjoying uh
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the the God how do I say it but you would get a you would get away with a lot like now that's fine what we thought
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was risque back then is like G-rated now it's nothing but back then it was like I
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can't believe they're doing this like right could you picture yourself would you ever think that's something you'd
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want to do or we I I when I watched SNL sort of what you were saying about an escape earlier I'm from a divorce family
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I think we're all pretty beat up um with childhoods and comedy in general but I had I don't know if I realized it
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then but maybe looking forward to happy days or sitcoms at night or this or
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or watching us now was an escape because it was fun people having fun and there was no problems yeah
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it was all happy yes the church lady just like like or or when you did
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Wayne's World it was just like what is this you know what I mean it was just like I I knew what Public Access was and
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then you guys did a sketch on public access television it was just like this
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is crazy like I was so in love with uh that idea like it even made people think like oh well then maybe I could do like
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a public access show you know what I mean well the the the emotional underpinning of that thing because
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people have asked me and I've thought about it is that the two uh kind of two guys in a town live with their parents
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have an AMC Pacer and they're like the happiest people in the town because they're ritualizing
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everything so it's such a feel-good thing I want to be Garth I want to be the loyal best friend of the guy who's
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Like Bugs Bunny he's smarter than everyone in the town you know yeah so uh and you reflect people watching it
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because I'm like in the basement watching a shell going oh my God that's like me and my stupid friend so people
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watching go that's cool that's us that's so true and that literally those two characters were at height you know they
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were in high school with me I knew those two guys and it's just yeah I also loved how how the intro came on where it was
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that Public Access yeah oh yeah yeah yeah I think it was Phil Hartman yeah you're watching Public Access yeah it
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was so good and then like Spade like everything that you did man with with Farley and of course Sandler it was just
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like this chemistry that you guys had was like it was like friends it was just like I
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was it was like you were in on something you know what I mean and it was like this school it was like you you felt
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like you were a flying on the wall is that the name of this that is I think it is yep we we give away prizes for people
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to say flat if you work it in yeah good job crazy um yeah
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let me get you a Rolex and a Gucci bag yes I did research you last night I
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appreciate that because you earned it um but no I really felt like oh I'm watching something cool here the way you
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guys would laugh you know break character every now and then even though John didn't like it when people break
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character John Lovitz would always say that yeah they sometimes they great character and I don't get it I don't
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like it I don't and I don't get it it's not funny
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when did John Lovitz come from what is that race like from 1930. I know I'm
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trying to figure out what is he laughing at he's always genuinely perplexed
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what's so funny what's so funny you know why they didn't put the sketch on don't
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you why because it's funny they don't like it because it's too
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funny it's a bit of May West almost and sort of a 1940s type announcer voice
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it's so funny where did he come from yeah he's the greatest I always thought I always thought that was an act you
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know we're doing stand-ups stand up at the lap factor I was like oh he's doing
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like this character yeah he does on SNL and then he and then he called me I
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didn't even know he got my number and he called me he goes I'm going on sure and I want you to open for me and
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I'm like oh [ __ ] they really talk like this oh wow did you do it yeah you're
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too funny that's a problem I remember I'm talking about you you know he's opening for me don't you Joe Coy No no
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no and I'm not even disagreeing he goes no no he's really funny he's really going to be big you know
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oh that was sweet that's awesome I thought you were so strong that night and John was still new to stand up it
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was almost like he had to pull up his socks it's hard to follow a polished good act yeah because you were already into your into your you were you were a
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kick-ass stand up this is like the early knots or something I don't remember not 2000 can I give you my favorite John
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Lovett story we would love nothing more he's a friend of the podcast okay you're gonna love this one okay I'm opening for
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him in Hawaii he loves Hawaii that's the worst place
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for me we're um opening up for Hawaii and he goes let's go to the beach I need
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it because he's got he's got psoriasis right I know yeah he does I need to tan
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let's go the beach
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and we're laid down and uh and this guy walks up to us right I don't know who he
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is he's like an assistant or something he goes hey John um Casey from Casey and the Sunshine
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Band he's a huge fan of yours but he's so scared to come up to you and talk to
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you and he's performing on the island as well is there any way you can say hi to her and John's like of course I love
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Casey in the sunshine of course who doesn't right so we walk up we walk up
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the best story man and here's Casey and he's like hey John I really love you man
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I I was just so nervous to say hi and he goes oh I'm a huge fan of you this is Joe cool
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you ready this is this is the first thing he says to Casey
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this is Joe Coy he does a really good impersonation of me
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Get Away Joe what do you want me to say he goes exactly it's epic that was it that was
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we have to reboot I mean love it's let's if Ted surrandos is listening maybe Joe you could produce it David John Levitt
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should just be in a cartoon as John lovetts on Netflix walking around doing exactly what you just said I don't know
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what do you want me to say he goes that's exactly what I want you to say and I'm like now I'm in a sketch with
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them yeah last time I saw him he goes me he goes
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David I'm sorry about your attitude I heard about it it's so funny but he says hey he always
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buys a new car and he pulls up and he steps out of it and he goes how can I get you in this car he's trying to sell
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it to me you know you little pixie how are you that's what he calls me you
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little pixie how you doing yeah are you jealous God he is he is funny as [ __ ]
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and he's got his little dog Jerry brookheimer his trustee trust his dog is not cute I hate to tell I hate to break
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it down I tell him personality is adorable but the under like every dog yeah
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I love all dogs so Joel yeah I asked Joe real quick so
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this um so your mom is your biggest fan and really wanted you to go into show
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business or just got a sense nope not at all she wanted [ __ ] Wikipedia I don't
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know so she wanted like you know Filipinos are you know have a lot of
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talent in the family I don't know how this happens but there's always a lot of talent there's always a singer there's always something a dancer
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and the parents love to Showcase that talent and it's just like whenever there's a party it's like all the
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parents got their kids and they make them all perform and and that and they and they and they brag about it it's
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like it goes on for years like I I I was really good at impersonating Michael
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Jackson but like whatever Michael Jackson wasn't even doing Michael Jackson anymore but I was and she would
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make me impersonate Michael Jackson all throughout High School and that she would brag about it but the
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minute you get your diploma it's like okay enough of the talent now you need to think about life that's about to say
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where's the impression it's a talent show for all your childhood all the way through high school and now that's over
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career there's is no such thing as becoming an Entertainer that there's no money to be made there Joseph and wow
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and that's a reality I swear it's pretty true though I mean she's not wrong the odds are stacked against us but what was
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your response to that I'll show you or what what yeah I just I I was in low
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with stand-up I couldn't get enough with of it I love the I I I knew I was going to be a comedian when did you get up on
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stage what age were you 18 I right out of high school in Vegas oh no Joe no no
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Joseph what are you doing my mom would kick the bed and go did you
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give your uh applications out today did you walk into the applications I go I go
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and she goes are you doing stand-up you have to focus on something I go as soon as you go to Baskin Robbins I go
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I win and no one's hiring mean while everyone's hiring I go she was go again I don't think I don't believe you went
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go show me your filled application I go gosh you were like in the day what are
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you doing whatever I want John get out of here this is my room Napoleon Dynamite so 94 uh and you dreamed about
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it like as a little kid then basically like 9 10 11. you started yeah I I was
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in love with it at like 9 10 and I saw Eddie Murphy he's good Coliseum yeah oh
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you're a Seattle guy 27. at the Seattle concert I bought the tickets with my mom's credit card and I and I went to
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that show and I saw live Eddie Murphy and what did that do to your brain when you saw Eddie up there okay so I knew
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stand up usually the biggest would be a theater yeah like you know you see Carlin in a theater big theater yeah
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theater and then here I am in an arena where the SuperSonics play and I
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remember sitting in the seat with my friend and looking up at the 300 section going wait a minute what like there's
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people up there too yeah yeah one guy with a mic one man it was crazy and I
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don't know if you saw went to Raw but there's a the beginning of raw he stands behind this red screen right I saw it in
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New York yeah oh you went to Raw you saw yeah yeah yeah would you remember the beginning of that it was all the
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highlights of what he's done and then it turns red and he's standing behind it and it's like to explain that to kids
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now it's unreal nothing but in 1987 that was it was incredible like my mind blew up
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like I couldn't believe I just saw a real like that with his body of work in front of me and then
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now and he's right there and then he comes up in your city is not explainable
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yeah at 19 or 20 he's a fully born Superstar on Saturday Night Live
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I was a much longer journey and so in your case you got on stage could you
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tell us about your first night your first night going up my first night growing up you remember your first set
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oh yeah I know exactly where the the venue is it's on Tropicana and Eastern in Vegas and it was a it was a talent
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show I was 18. I had to grow I remember it took me about two weeks to grow just a little bit of hair on my upper lip and
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then I colored it in with my mom's little eyeliner thing I made it really dark I swear because it was it a 21 and up
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place or could you get in it yeah it was a bar oh so you had to pass for 21. yeah it looked like one of the Marx Brothers
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man it was just like this obviously painted mustache and uh and uh yeah I
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went up I bombed um it was so funny because when I wrote the routine I thought for sure in my
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head what I was visualizing me on stage and like the the bar manager calling
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someone from Hollywood like I think we found it this kid
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holding the phone I'm telling you we don't have enough
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alcohol to serve the people they bought the bar listen he's getting an encore first three minute set yes he's doing
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six minutes instead of three this is unbelievable so God three minutes was an
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eternity it was lit literally everything that I wrote disappeared in my head right when I got on stage I forgot
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everything I wrote and then I didn't want to get off stage I just kept bombing for three minutes the guy kept
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like get off I wouldn't get off awful and then uh I did this stupid joke about
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a condom not fitting you know that's all I knew because the size of the organ is
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too big or too small if it doesn't yeah but you know it's the obvious right got it got it sure and then now my tongue is
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sticking to the roof of my mouth and uh my mouth is dry and I and I and I say to the crowd I go you ever uh your mouth
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ever gets so dry your your tongue sticks to the roof of your mouth and the lady at the bar goes put a condom on it and
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crushes so the crowd is flashing absolutely
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destroys the joke I bombed on and then I
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walk off stage sit down next to the guy that did Lionel Richie he did a Lionel Richie song and he sounded just like
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Lionel Richie and I'm sitting right next to him he won that night by the way and then uh literally he looked at me he
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goes he goes yeah he goes hey don't be too down on yourself he goes I just want you to know you had really good stage
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presence that's what he said to me and then uh and if he didn't say that to me I probably would have quit comedy so
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dramatic honestly wow oh wow I had a similar situation that's so true how was yours Dave well just quickly this is
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supposed to be about you but whatever David likes to talk about himself I do I'm gonna go back 40 minutes before this
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I've only heard this 11 times so I know what it was was I did my it was at Chuckles and Tempe which Dana might have
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played they always have funny names and uh yeah I like my they call a girls a
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day comedians chuckle [ __ ] because it's the funniest term and I never had any but there were zero chuckle [ __ ]
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there that night anyway so I go on to do my three
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chuckle [ __ ] so I go and do three and I'm bombing and
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then in between like I did one about mustard and I go I don't even know why I eat mustard anymore and then I go blah blah and I do my and so I get off
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completely bomb and of course some extra from the movie is like a you know skinny
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Thai manager but just it's like whoever you run into Stage man but he just manages the bar and I happen to walk
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over and stand next to him and he goes that was tough and I go yeah uh that's first time though and he goes yeah and
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then he goes he's like looking away and he goes actually the stuff you say between the jokes is funnier and then he
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walks away wow and I go wait a second and that was my now that's my whole style for the rest of my life things
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between the jokes that's a comedy album because I would I would I would comment on what I just said to myself yeah and
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then you get it and then I thought oh it just made me think like so there's something like you said so there's
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something there yeah you should have you should actually go back and give that guy some money hey he kept me going like
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you said yours kept you going Lionel Richie knockoff yeah he kept you going but that was nice anyone take a second
00:27:52
but that guy but David I hate to interrupt you but but that note right there on you is like that's that's
00:27:58
golden I mean stage presence that's kind of like okay you look good on stage yeah he
00:28:05
saw you there it's a generic thing it was actually very good
00:28:10
I died I I agree he wasn't throwing that around everyone it's it's a stage
00:28:16
presence to Lionel Richie forgot for sure no but that but that note on you
00:28:22
you that's a great note because yeah that is you that's your whole act it's like I think every time you just say on
00:28:30
your whatever's on your mind David is so funny man it's like spot on it's always
00:28:35
been you but it made me think like what what is he talking about and then the longer you know like you get it now and
00:28:41
we all understand that that's even in movies I was sort of what I I was in
00:28:46
Coneheads my first or second movie and they had me just with Michael McKeon and
00:28:52
I would just kind of repeat what he said or say something back under my breath and he would keep talking and I go that
00:28:57
is kind of it because sometimes the joke you're going for that you think is the big one and then use and then you say something
00:29:04
after like a tagline is funnier you know yeah that kind of stuff yeah so whatever that guy that just made me think of it
00:29:10
because your guy said something to you and we were talking to uh Nick Crawler he had his audition for us now and then
00:29:16
a random stage manager said something but it threw him and that's just someone doesn't realize this is such a big
00:29:21
moment in your life and they're just saying something randomly but you remember look at this years later we both remember I I like that
00:29:32
[Music] let's talk about how you got to get to these five Superstar specials and you
00:29:38
have one out now live from the LA Forum yeah which is
00:29:43
what you can't even talk about that 15 000 seats or something twelve thousand I
00:29:49
I did you're not gonna believe this I I sold it out four times and uh I don't
00:29:54
believe this yeah it's crazy right that's so crazy did they pay you a lot
00:29:59
of money well you know I I do all my I do all my promotion myself so my
00:30:06
promotion team we go in and take we go into these books oh really yeah that's where the money's at you got to do it
00:30:12
yourself especially when it's at that when it's at that level you don't want to go in as a paid act you you lose money that way
00:30:20
really I don't even understand when you take in on all the risk yeah you're gonna make you make more when you do it
00:30:27
that way I played the form Dana and what happened is it wasn't selling and so he curtained it off so it only held about
00:30:33
200. but if you have the all the curtains up and everything it's still you can say it's I played the bar I
00:30:39
played the bar at the Forum they put a little stage in the corner it's about 45 people but I I four walled the whole
00:30:45
thing because it's a long way but Joe you're okay so where did you get
00:30:51
this business Acumen because they said my research on you is that you couldn't
00:30:58
get a Netflix special yeah so you said I'm going to produce one in Seattle I'm
00:31:03
going to take pretty much all my savings put into it produce it I guess that quality that you would know they would
00:31:10
accept and then you sold it to Netflix very you know what's rare and I hate to
00:31:15
interrupt you dude that's all I wanted to say do it but but not only did they say no to me they said no to me the
00:31:21
whole year this is the year that they were gonna make original specials right they work in a license anywhere they're
00:31:26
gonna make a and they made this huge announcement that they were gonna do a special every week and and they were
00:31:32
going after everybody you know and and uh but they didn't even approach me and I was like I didn't get it because I was
00:31:37
I was killing on the road doing well right yeah yeah and I just like this hour is hot like and I and I kept
00:31:44
inviting them to come watch the new hour they never came and and then finally like they just said we're gonna go ahead
00:31:50
and pass and I was like what and then they go our calendars pool and we already got everybody but we'll look at
00:31:55
to you next year for the year after that and I'm like I need to get on now I'm 45.
00:32:01
three more years no I need to do this now so wow I I was like screw it I'll
00:32:06
shoot it myself and and uh we were gonna do a small scale but I'm like if we do a small scale then it's gonna look like I
00:32:12
shot it myself I mean if I want them to buy it from me it's gonna look like they paid for it so we went big and I did it
00:32:18
in Seattle at the Moore Theater and uh and I I put on every single Hat Man data
00:32:23
I I did all my research I I scouted my directors I I did everything and here's
00:32:29
the the best compliment I can I can give anybody and it's to you Dana because
00:32:36
I'll take it um I I studied everyone's specials yours too uh David I studied everyone special
00:32:44
uh the one you did in Phoenix was so amazing yeah the HBO one yeah I love
00:32:50
that one and then uh and then so I would study because I was trying to figure out what my stay
00:32:56
like I wasn't looking at it for the content I was looking at it like the set design the light design how they light
00:33:02
up the audience uh you know cameras and the the one special
00:33:09
that made my mouth drop was your special Dana because which one it's the one it's
00:33:17
the one in uh Santa Rosa Santa Barbara Santa Rosa Santa Rosa incredible theater well one you crushed it but your sound
00:33:26
was the best sound wow every single special that I've seen and I watched I
00:33:32
think I watched 100 specials and I and that's the one I I told my director I
00:33:37
told my sound guy and I told everybody I'd go can you please watch Dana's because I don't know what he did but it
00:33:44
doesn't sound like any ever anyone else's special I go it sounds like I'm
00:33:50
in the audience with him laughing so interesting you bring that up because
00:33:55
now I'm remembering that I was disappointed in the sound when I
00:34:01
heard the first cut and I did because I get possessed sometimes about things so I actually did get in the room with them
00:34:09
and I said I wanted I wanted I Love Lucy sound can I get I Love Lucy sound because you can hear the individual
00:34:15
laughs and so they worked with me and I never had got direct feedback from anyone till now about the sound on that
00:34:23
thing because I don't watch it again I'm too self-conscious but yeah I remember it was a thing really frustrated because
00:34:30
in the old days they'd have the One mic down there and then it would create this thing you know like Cosby early comedy
00:34:36
albums just so crackling and then they have all these mics and so they had to turn some of the mics up but they did
00:34:42
work on it and so the fact that you've mentioned it now made my day this many years later because I really really
00:34:48
worked on that that's amazing to get the sound did you copy it or what did you do to get it
00:34:55
what you just said is what I is what I heard and and I didn't hear in any other
00:35:01
special because whenever I watch any other special I would just hear audience laugh just a roar of yours was so like I
00:35:08
was like dude I can hear everyone like I'm hearing everyone it's so full in there and I go what did he do and my
00:35:15
sound we we ended up miking the entire audience all the way up to the roof but
00:35:21
I bought so many microphones and uh and and when you watch live from Seattle and
00:35:27
uh and it's so funny because people go oh he did he add laughter and I'm like no [ __ ] I added microphones yeah yeah
00:35:36
the balcony and you don't hear that laugh you're just getting the floor or you're getting boom mics on the front of
00:35:41
the stage and only getting the first five rows yeah special and that's why it sounds like
00:35:48
that and it's and it's from your special God did you always have this drive because like you're like you you're
00:35:54
shrewd you're clever you're driven I mean yeah I mean at age 45 yeah broke I
00:36:00
mean you were yeah I mean broke as a nationwide Figure World figure really because you were doing really really
00:36:06
well but then that first special um live Seattle just you went up like a
00:36:12
rocket you went to Hawaii and you were selling 20 000 or over yeah you just blew up yeah that was crazy after that
00:36:19
special it was it was over and really so that was it so there was there was a change sorry Joe
00:36:25
so that comes out you sell it to Netflix yeah and then it comes out and how long
00:36:30
does it take it starts sinking in where you're like the the gigs are filling up and you go oh we might have to move to a bigger venue instead of a club or or you
00:36:37
start selling out a club three nights four nights and you go ship I bet we could do 2 000 seats well can I I
00:36:44
you know David don't get mad at me when I say this no we'd love to hear success stories no I might get mad go ahead but
00:36:51
before but before live from Seattle and this is this was my frustration with Netflix I was breaking records at the
00:36:58
improvs I was I was selling like 30 shows out in a row like 20 400 seaters
00:37:04
big improv yeah yeah and I would literally have to stay in a city for three weeks
00:37:11
you know to satisfy your fan base Joe I'm not mad I'm so embarrassed I knew
00:37:16
you were big I just knew that I would be like at the Irvine Improv which is a huge one and they go uh Gabriel Iglesias
00:37:22
is here for the last week and I'm like the last week and there's acts like this like Joe and they were smoking out on
00:37:30
the road and you go holy [ __ ] you know so that's more discombobulating of why
00:37:35
Netflix or any streamer doesn't just say we got to get this guy bottle it and throw it on our place and take credit
00:37:41
for them yeah that drove me crazy I I gotta I have a plaque on the wall at the Irvine Improv it's like a hundred sold
00:37:48
out shows I'm like it's unreal that place is hard to fit that's big did you just get a small apartment down there or
00:37:53
did you yeah any club you play you have to rent an
00:37:59
apartment because how did you sell out Seattle was that a how big was that theater was that easy to sell out for
00:38:06
you the more I just did the more I think yeah I did the more and for the for the taping I just sold two shows out on the
00:38:12
same day just for the taping yeah and uh and uh it it didn't make it did make
00:38:19
sense to me that that they weren't giving me the special and then after uh
00:38:25
after the special aired that's where we noticed that um instead of selling out like uh uh uh uh
00:38:33
shows out in like two months in advance it was selling out the whole calendar year it was gone
00:38:39
like my whole calendar year was completely sold out and they were like okay wait a minute wow we're like wait a
00:38:45
minute so the whole calendar year so let's add a show and then we would add a theater and then that would sell out and
00:38:51
then and then we go all right let's try Hawaii let's just do two shows in Hawaii and that's sold out in like a minute
00:38:57
like literally like one minute and then and then we added a third a
00:39:02
minute and then now the news is getting involved Joe Coy is coming to Hawaii wow and the computers are coming down and
00:39:08
all this stuff and then adding another yeah and it ended up being like 12 shows in a row it was like 24 000 tickets
00:39:15
and I broke Mariah Carey's record it was like the craziest thing oh they moved to the Big Island because it was the
00:39:21
biggest island that could hold everybody I was in a volcano I purported it out of
00:39:27
a volcano I'm playing a d off of uh Kawaii okay yeah so then you just you
00:39:34
just started no one knew that but that's a big moment in your life that you can't ever get again you go holy [ __ ] I'm
00:39:41
selling out I was doing improvs where I would do and honestly I'm not really as known as a stand-up because I do uh I'm
00:39:49
an international star in other uh areas and um uh no but I do other stupid [ __ ] so but
00:39:56
when I go to stand up I'd always do it as something between a movie or a TV show and so I would go to the Irvine
00:40:03
Empire hold on hold on hold on what what is it I don't know
00:40:14
do-over do-over on Netflix without it I dude I did Benchwarmers so you're what
00:40:20
it is so when you're doing this is an international icon you go to a club and then you remember Joe like and Dana
00:40:28
knows there's this year is the first year I'm doing a theater tour because when I when your eyes on the ball and
00:40:35
you're not a stand-up a thousand percent of the time I'm just like hey I have these two weeks off is it too late to
00:40:40
call like Irvine Improv I love or can I go do uh wherever Club wherever club and they go okay we figured out and we fill
00:40:47
them up but it's not neat records but it's just we film up and I go great and then after all this time I go is there
00:40:54
any like a theater I can do so I just do one show instead of uh more yeah and then they go yeah and then I realize
00:41:00
like Nikki Glazer and Theo Von and uh you know Segura I'd cry all these people
00:41:05
are are filling up theaters and Nate brigazi and I go and you and I go and
00:41:10
you're doing even bigger ones but I go I gotta get in that mix like why am I am I still doing clubs and I go oh well if
00:41:16
you want we can do a whole theater I go yes what I I spent five years too long just they go but you gotta focus and you
00:41:22
gotta do like 40. you got to start with 40 in a row so they can set it up and you book the gig and you put a hold on
00:41:27
theater all that [ __ ] so I'm just like Florida you were way ahead of the game on that you're like getting go bigger
00:41:33
bigger bigger bigger Joe coyp start leap to theaters at 45 what age did you leave
00:41:39
to theaters I never just now so many it seems like we had John Mulaney on our
00:41:45
show and he was very humble and in awe of the fact that he's doing you know Madison Square Garden four nights in a
00:41:52
row and you're how many are there of you that can do do that one two three Arenas
00:41:59
like you did the chase Center twice what I mean there's Mulaney there's Bill Burr
00:42:04
there's you here very select group of Arena Comics right now right I mean yeah
00:42:09
I I think it's crazy too that like um where the Arenas are as well right
00:42:16
like right it's like yeah you know where like I'm doing two now
00:42:21
I'm doing two San Francisco two San Diego Arenas two uh Seattle Seattle yeah
00:42:28
well I did Seattle I did the I did the climate pledge where you know I saw Eddie Murphy at and then now I'm doing a
00:42:34
Tacoma Dome which is 40 minutes down the street and that's that's 18 000 people and um and it's just in the same
00:42:43
calendar year and it's just like and it's also the placement like we're like I'm in Chicago doing the United Center
00:42:49
I'm doing FTX arena in Miami uh it's like I like you do another one
00:42:54
for the people that don't want to drive eight minutes David we'll just pitch this tip Joe it
00:43:01
would be fun to hang out with you now we could be your openers or whatever and next time you're playing like a some
00:43:07
giant Arena uh no I'm just kidding no you know Arenas are but Joe Arenas
00:43:13
aren't they to come out please you wouldn't have to pay me I would just wave and go I'm almost 80. good night
00:43:20
but what I would I wouldn't even put you on the flyer if you walked out that would be incredible you too David I'm
00:43:27
going to put you on the flyer tell anybody if you walked out it would be insane I would love to just get Applause
00:43:33
and leave you love Irvine so much David I'm doing
00:43:38
Honda centers like coming up right away right [ __ ] hot Anaheim yeah Anaheim I'm
00:43:46
doing two centers uh where the Ducks play maybe I'll Bop down I was watching before I knew we had you
00:43:53
on the podcast so I was watching your uh Hawaii one 20 coming in hot yes and I
00:44:00
don't know I mean tayden is reading it no no I wanted to say I got him written here 2017 2019 2020 I mean the amount of
00:44:09
specials in a compressed period of time but uh you're a top you're a high level
00:44:15
Joe as as a pure stand-up do you not want to flip your jokes around though like when I started Joe we would see
00:44:22
like Denny Johnson there's Comics I thought were great dane and knows all these guys you could travel and this is
00:44:27
not a knock to them because it's just the way it is you could do 10 years with your same hour yeah you know what I mean
00:44:34
and just travel different cities and that's someone who's just getting lazy honestly and just saying this works I
00:44:40
have a job this is my job to do this hour and they just do it and they come back that City two years later but
00:44:46
different people come but nowadays when you do a special and then where where are are you on I think I know where you
00:44:52
fall in this of flipping an hour to a completely new hour do you repeat stuff they love or how do you do it no I I
00:44:59
don't once it's on Netflix that's it's done I'll never you throw in the [ __ ] garbage and then you're gonna do this
00:45:05
new hour you got to go to clubs to work I work them in between the sets
00:45:10
so oh okay on the tour and I'm already like I I shot that special in March I
00:45:17
was already working on that before I shot it okay so I had the hour in the bag and I was already working on a new
00:45:23
hour before I shot that hour and now I have a new hour well let me ask you a question which I'm fascinated by like
00:45:29
the idea of confidence yeah and you're like okay you're floating around you could look back and go maybe I was 88
00:45:35
confident but now when you go out there after these specials are out you're you're kind of I don't know what other
00:45:41
word to use like a superstar level or something because you've got your name is 100 feet high behind you which I
00:45:47
think is really Eddie Murphy yeah and you're coming out and they love you so much but I was watching your Technique
00:45:53
and your commitment your theatricality and you're sitting on the stool you're doing a Vietnamese character you're so
00:45:59
in the pocket do you feel like you're the most confident on stage you've ever been or can you get more confident than
00:46:05
where you're at because I I want to cry right now how good it's just that Dana's
00:46:12
studying your special I just I just enjoyed I called my son who's a huge fan of yours and I just said I just saw it
00:46:18
and I don't watch a lot of standard but I go this guy is at the top top tippy top of what a stand-up can be I'm being
00:46:25
sincere I'm just I'm just being honest I love you man that was awesome man you don't know what
00:46:32
that means to me right now but it's kind of true right yeah you're out there
00:46:39
thank you man you're never at a point with these crowds because they're all there to see you like first of all it is
00:46:45
like an Eddie Murphy thing so you must freak out that you you know what it's like to sit in that crowd and get excited someone's coming out you want to
00:46:50
see and everyone's there and you come out lights go down they get all excited that is fun and is there was there any
00:46:56
transition because when we went out with this uh Sandler tour we played some bigger uh venues and it is a little
00:47:03
different as far as some of my jokes are very throwaway and the bigger it gets I started playing bigger and I had to be
00:47:10
careful of like I don't want to change things too much because it's just they sort of it they
00:47:17
wouldn't listen as much if I went too long telling a story or too long
00:47:23
so excited you're like a music crowd you know they were some [ __ ] action yeah that would be
00:47:29
difficult a joke you have a lot of Dynamics Joe when you get them rolling then I see you sit down and you get
00:47:34
their voices and he moves but then you're gonna go explosive and uh you
00:47:39
know it's just a fun to watch I I'm just uh happy for it it's fun to be confident on stage because then it's just that
00:47:46
second voice gets out of your head and you're just in the flow yeah and I and I I tell like other Comics that that I
00:47:52
take on the road that that's the one note I say it's so crazy you're saying all this stuff to me
00:47:59
um one the second voice I always tell them trust it like trust your gut you
00:48:05
know just like what David said about the stuff you say in between it's like that's that's what you bring to the
00:48:11
stage and like I don't care if I already have a set ready uh and we're about to
00:48:16
shoot it um if it comes to me at that moment I'm saying it I don't care and if it fails
00:48:23
it fails and I'm gonna stay confident I'm gonna stay in the pocket yeah and I want to commit completely and um and
00:48:30
when I when I become my mom on stage or if I become my son on stage I become them on stage and uh and and yeah and
00:48:39
yeah that I I always trust like that that's why I'm not scared to like drop the hour I don't care like I really
00:48:46
don't I well it's working enough and you gotta feel for it you're like in a rhythm of like because you're if
00:48:51
something's not right or it's not working it's not going to make the hour because you and your head are going to go that's not strong enough I gotta get
00:48:57
rid of it yeah yep and I and I never do I never want to be in that in in that
00:49:03
zone that I've seen certain comments because like you said when I used to go and watch Comics all the time at the
00:49:10
clubs and and I would see a comic that would come back a year later and they're doing the same act and that would always
00:49:16
frustrate me because I'm like I'm like I would never do that I'm like I would never ever do that it's just I
00:49:23
don't know that was just a thing back then because there was no specials really and then yeah I mean the first specials I remember were raw I remember
00:49:30
uh I think Young comedian specials with Rodney or something or Jim Carrey and I
00:49:35
was like holy [ __ ] Sam Kinison blew my mind all that [ __ ] and then engine carry obviously and then you started to see
00:49:42
like when I got my HBO special maybe there was I don't even think I knew back then it was a really big deal but I knew
00:49:48
it was a big deal but there's probably like four or five a year you know so those resonated like the early like when
00:49:55
we were on SNL especially Dana a little little farther back that that's one of the only game in town where you get to
00:50:00
go oh here's comedy and when you get an HBO special it's only the networks and HBO and that's really almost it maybe on
00:50:08
TV now there's three thousand so it's very hard to make an impact so if you can cut through as a stand-up where you
00:50:15
are and still get to everybody and have these things mean a lot and just keep on a rotation like new material it's unreal
00:50:21
I kind of am in awe of people who can write really great jokes like Dennis Miller when he does this special he's
00:50:27
got to have you know 200 really great one liners you know and if you are have
00:50:33
a theatrical vent to you and you can extend a rhythm with your son or your mom there's just that's more like Jazzy
00:50:41
and all of a sudden you got 10 minutes because you're following yourself down this thought about a character they
00:50:47
follow with you but that being said it's really hard to get a great hour that works every year that's just a lot of
00:50:53
work it is a commitment yeah yeah it is I think the first two were easy with me
00:50:59
with Netflix because I waited so long for a special that I already had the two
00:51:04
hours ready right back to back wow and now this one after this one dropped uh
00:51:10
yeah now I'm like okay I gotta I gotta dig deep in the bag right now for this one but do you stress out or do you go I
00:51:17
want to wait and then maybe wait two years for the next one or or I don't
00:51:22
know this is your fourth yeah in in in fact how close were the first two first
00:51:28
one comes out it's a hit 17 so it changes things so how fast you go I'm putting it was like I think it's a year
00:51:34
and a half and they call you and say now we want to do one right yeah they called me a year after but I
00:51:39
was ready right away because you know I I were like here it is right away yeah I was like there's a zip Drive yeah I'm
00:51:47
just gonna do the stuff that didn't make the first one so that's the stuff Jay Leno always said you know these guys
00:51:53
come on The Tonight Show and they got one they got seven minutes and they do it and then they asked them to come back and they don't they don't even have
00:51:58
another seven you know you gotta go back to back that's what you do you know you never you never record your act because
00:52:04
then people know you're back [Music]
00:52:10
well an hour is a hard to come up with I mean when I did the first uh Joe I got
00:52:15
to do one with Carson and uh I was going over my set and I had like an audition set I would do the Improv you know to
00:52:21
get stuff and then I think Brad gray and Mark irvitz my managers I go uh I don't want to do this joke because I want to
00:52:27
save that for my second one and they go you [ __ ] don't save [ __ ] you bomb you're not coming back give everything
00:52:32
you got and then if you don't have anything you bust your ass to get more but don't save anything so I did every
00:52:39
best joke I had the first time uh out of Las Vegas
00:52:45
made quite a quite a splash on the comedy scene please welcome up Joe Coy everybody
00:52:51
I just wanted you to have that experience in case you never had it uh yeah that was incredible oh wait I have
00:52:57
a question about Easter Sunday Joe just for the people at home I've done movies some are very very hard to get off the
00:53:04
ground is it one of those that was easy or is it people don't know how hard it is just to get a movie going was it
00:53:10
harder or easier okay here it comes probably
00:53:15
comes out right yeah okay my second special comes out yeah we get a call
00:53:20
from amblin wow go into amblin thinking that it's a general right it's a general meeting
00:53:27
Spielberg's company yeah yeah so I go into amblin it's me and my manager we think it's just a general meeting right
00:53:35
when we walk in someone goes Stephen can't stop talking about your special wow oh okay thank you and I hug and then
00:53:42
next person yo Steven loves you next person Stephen can't stop talking about Stephen this Stephen that's even that
00:53:49
then I get to the meeting with Holly and Jeb uh the two execs over there and they're like Steven loves your stuff and
00:53:55
then I swear I do this joke all the time but I'm like are you me you mean Steven from accounting right
00:54:00
because there's no way Mr Spielberg you're talking about Stephen from accounting so it's a Philippines which
00:54:06
is still good and they're like no it's Mr Spielberg he loves you and he wants to do a movie with you do you have an
00:54:13
idea and I pitched Easter Sunday which was uh something that was already with uh you know another producer a great
00:54:19
producer named Dan Lynn it was in the works but we just didn't have anything attached to it so I pitched that in the
00:54:25
room and they bought it in the room wow and literally like
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six oh then the pandemic hit so everything's shut down so I thought oh there goes my dream that I've been
00:54:36
waiting for and they called me and like hey don't worry it's gonna open back up and we're still making this movie and
00:54:42
the minute banged up we were already filming we were we were we hit the ground shooting it was all
00:54:49
because of Stephen wow yeah he does cut through butter a little bit more than most people it's harder to get and he
00:54:57
only made two movies it was a Jurassic world and Easter Sunday and he released them at the same time in the summer he
00:55:04
released against himself sir it was just such a compliment nothing better than
00:55:09
going to see Jurassic world with my son and my trailer is running before oh wow
00:55:14
wow wow it was all because of Stephen what is incredible what a thrill yeah
00:55:19
any more questions David oh that's it Joe was great Joe thank you buddy David
00:55:27
Yeah well yeah Joe will be playing the State of Arizona December 2nd uh there's
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a stage uh 40 miles south of Preston gentlemen he's playing the Grand Canyon
00:55:40
he plays Canada one night only he's in Sasquatch
00:55:45
vertical uh Chopper's gonna hang him up anyway Joe congratulations on all your
00:55:51
success and uh you're inspiring your focus and love of stand up and the level
00:55:56
you've gotten at is very very cool well I'm not going to end it on that note no we're not what about Chelsea Handler
00:56:03
what about that okay thank you David
00:56:10
David for what you guys do on stage because if it wasn't for YouTube there
00:56:16
would not be any of these Comics that you see now not just me all of them you guys did it before anybody else before
00:56:23
Tick Tock before Instagram you guys were the dogs that that paved the way for us
00:56:29
and and you were the best of the best man like you inspired me you made a little kid that was going through a lot
00:56:36
when he was a child smile I remember I heard when you were seven years old seven years old he was
00:56:43
only selling out 400 seaters that's how that's so sad that's so sad to hear that time I don't even like talking about
00:56:49
those only little tiny theaters uh Joe we appreciate it buddy and I'll see you out there and I might see at the Honda
00:56:55
Center I love yes I love you and Dana please we're gonna show up at one of your gigs and just say a low backstage
00:57:01
right before you are about to go on and go on a long story about you on on our
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podcast no we'll see around campus but nice to see you again and I teared up a
00:57:12
little bit you teared up a little bit David did you break one I stayed normal you stayed normal
00:57:19
I teared up a little bit Yeah and uh I realized I'm still playing Club his
00:57:24
nickname is teardrop he doesn't tell you that very often okay teardrop nice to see you love you guys peace out
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