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RE-RELEASE - Molly Shannon

May 20, 2026 / 01:06:16

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So, I just saw Molly recently, Molly

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Shannon. Um, and she is on the show. We

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we had her a little bit ago and she is

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always such a bright light. When you see

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her, she always smiles. She lights up.

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She has something to say. She asks about

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me. And I think she's starring now with

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Will Frell in his new show, Hawk,

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>> cuz he was at the golf tournament. And

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yeah, Will Ferrell's a golfer

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>> and

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>> I think she's the ex-wife, which is

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perfect. Those two are so funny from

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SNL.

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>> Yeah, they've done a lot of things

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together over over the years. They're

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very

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>> And a lot of people I know, she is

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definitely an SNL one and especially

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women come up and go, Molly was so great

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and she's such a good vibe and she had

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and she's kind of quiet in real life and

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then she has these, you know, big

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characters. So, lot lot to go over with

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her.

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>> Yeah. Yeah. You'll see. We talk about

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what she does for working out. That's

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very funny. It really surprised me. And

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uh she's just kind of in the running for

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as nice a human as you could kind of

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interact with that, you know, this is

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just for me. I was on a flight American

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going to New York and this woman was

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kind of like asking me questions and

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this and that and she said that Molly

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Shannon went up and talked to her for

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two hours about her life and her family

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and you know just the nicest.

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>> I know. She's like, "Oh, really?" She

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really gets into it and you go, "Oh, is

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this person actually listening to my

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story?" Yeah.

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>> Yeah. So, I decided to try to go up

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there longer than Molly did because I

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was just competitive. I'm kidding. No,

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she's she's very nice, really funny,

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super talent, and uh just a great hang.

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So, I would check this out if you didn't

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hear it the first time. And if you did

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hear it the first time,

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>> do it. Do it again.

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>> Uh here she is. Molly Shannon.

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>> That's amazing. This is such a great

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idea. Congratulations, guys.

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>> Thank you, Molly. And um you know,

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Molly, uh a bunch of high school friends

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and I chipped in and we bought a

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Bitcoin. So, I'll let you know how that

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goes.

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>> Okay, great.

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>> I like how we're very quiet.

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>> Yes, I have a card.

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>> You know, I like when people talk this

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way, like sometimes if I if I like if a

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if a fan comes up and it's like, I just

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wanted to say that, you know, I'm like,

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h I feel so relaxed by your voice. So,

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I'll keep talking to them if I like the

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voice. I think that you I think I relate

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that to you because maybe you talk like

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that in sketch or something or maybe

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we've talked about that's where you

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>> talked we've I've talked about this in

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interviews but I actually have something

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called ASMR for real which is like a

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type of response to certain voices where

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you feel really relaxed.

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>> So it's not it's it's real. I've had it

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since I was a kid. So store the game

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that we used to play David is kind of

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based on that but it is really real.

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Like if a certain if I ask like a

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stranger for directions and say they had

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a certain voice where they were like

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okay let me just get the map and then

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they touch the map and they have a

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certain type of voice it puts me in a

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very relaxed state. So is it like Zelic

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Woody Allen that you start to become

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them in a way like hi Molly I'm just a

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really big fan you go thank you so much

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I love that she just keeps asking for

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direction it's not like that

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>> I love that for you

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>> it would it's a feeling of like it feels

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almost like getting a massage it's like

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>> I did it too it's like when you were a

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kid and people would read you stories if

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you got the right voice to read you a

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story that's what you wanted some

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teachers had it

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>> sometimes cute someone read you go to

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sleep you know when you're little and

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You just go lock into it and you go,

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"It's the best." And then you s teacher

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would read the story

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>> and I'm in second grade and the teacher

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was like 25 and had like nylon stockings

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on and a short dress. It was just sort

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of it made you feel funny.

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>> Oh boy.

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>> It made me feel funny like when I used

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to climb the rope in gym class or where

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that came from. Anyway, I don't know why

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I went there but

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>> wait wait wait. So you're saying that

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she would have stockings on?

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>> Well, just first time I'd seen an adult

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woman and they they were very beautiful.

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They were second grade teachers. This is

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the ' 60s. Anyone could be a teacher

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now. And they were pretty young women.

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And they would have just a normal skirt

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on and crossing and uncrossing their

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legs. And I'm seven, eight or nine. I

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just sort of got a little tingly. You

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start noticing women and you go, "Oh, I

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like this." And then they're not doing

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anything wrong and everything is sexual

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to you.

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>> Yeah. They're just they're just living

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their life and you're like, "Whoa."

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>> Yeah.

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>> She's walking. That's great. It's like

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when you love the fell in love with the

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lifeguard. Remember in seventh grade? I

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just made this up, but you know what I

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mean. I was like

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>> I like there's so much in her book and

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it's the only thing that isn't in her

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book about the lifeguard. I have a

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question from Molly about your book.

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>> Okay. Oh, great. David,

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>> you

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>> worked it. Cravings. Is that in sense

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right here?

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>> Yes, it's right near here.

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>> Is it still here?

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>> Uh, no. It closed down.

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>> That was here forever.

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>> It was here forever. The best grilled

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lemon chicken salad and really good

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pastas. I worked there for about four

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and a half years.

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I read all that part of your book and

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then I started in the beginning this

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morning. It's really compelling. Thank

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you.

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>> It wasn't like oh we got a book we got

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to okay what Dana one was like very well

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written

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>> and I wanted to ask how old were you and

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how long did you go at cravings and when

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did you leave craving? How old were you?

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That's the only thing I didn't

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>> Yes. I worked at Cravings for four and a

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half years and um I I got Saturday Night

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Live when I was 30. So, but I had left

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cravings I think a couple years before

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that.

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>> So, from 23 and a half to 28,

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>> something like that. Yeah. About about

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like that. Yeah. But we had fun. It was

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It was a He Ibrahim, our boss, hired

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really good people. So, we would have

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parties at night and dinners. We We had

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a blast working there.

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>> That's right. In that strip where there

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you can sit on the street at Sunset.

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Right. Now, you It said here um that you

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were was it improv? And you would call

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people to come to your shows like a

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bringer show like you'd say. Is that

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true? you you made a bunch of phone

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calls. It said like 500 to get 200

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people to show up.

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>> Yeah. I would use um I was it was before

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email, so I would um tell my customers,

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"Oh, I do this comedy show called the

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You got to come see my show. What's your

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name?" And they're like, "Oh, Ben." I'm

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like, "Oh, what's your girlfriend's

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name?" Melissa. Okay, Ben and Melissa.

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Give me your number. So then when I did

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a show in Santa Monica, I would pack the

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house with like 200 people and I would

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just invite one industry person per show

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and make it like this hot show. But um

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really I was calling everyone myself

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like, "Hi Ben, I met you at Cravings.

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Can you and your girlfriend Melissa come

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to my show?" "Yes." "Okay, great." And I

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would make all these calls. And when I

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got Saturday Night Live, I took that box

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of name and phone numbers that I'd saved

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from all my waitressing days and threw

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it in the dumpster cuz I didn't have to

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call anyone anymore to invite them to my

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show.

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>> That's nice. Like a robo light dumpster

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on fire or whatever. Sounds very

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dramatic. It

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>> does. at you. Sorry.

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>> So funny. No, I I didn't light it on

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fire, but it was dramatic in that I took

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that box and I was like, you know, all

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the little papers went flying.

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>> By the way, it worked. All that work

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paid off. So, you were a gogetter then.

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>> You got Marcy was who? Now, where did

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Marcy see you? Marcy Klein, talent

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coordinator for SNL.

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>> Marcy Klein came flew out. Thank you so

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much. Thank you. Oh,

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>> she's you almond milk. Can I get some

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biscotti? Molly some almond coffee in an

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Ellen mug.

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>> Yes, with almond milk. That's so nice.

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Um I

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>> just fill that anywhere, Molly. It

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doesn't matter.

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>> I Marcy Klein came out to see my stage

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show,

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>> the Saturday Night Live producer

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with management. Well, she wasn't a

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talent manager, but she was in charge of

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talent or something. Well, we had a

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couple of headings. Marcy.

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>> Yeah. She was the um producer, talent

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coordinator, but she came out to LA and

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saw my show and loved it. And then she

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was like, I'm bringing you to to New

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York to audition for Saturday Night

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Live. So

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>> fun. Yes.

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>> Marcy was a big part of all that because

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>> Yeah.

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>> She was there when I was there. She was

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in on my audition. She was in on yours

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probably, huh?

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>> Nope.

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>> Whoa.

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Was at Dana's audition. Go ahead,

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>> Dana. This is a 30 second story about

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me.

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>> Okay.

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>> Uh I was on SNL. I played Brown

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University.

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>> Wow.

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>> And um there was a woman in front that

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was kind of heckling me or friendly or

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whatever. and she had gigantic hair. So

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I did a comedian's trick of calling her

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big hair woman that became a runner.

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It's an old comedian. So hey big hair

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woman. What do you say?

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>> So it ends up that was Marcy Klene. And

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then Marcy the year next year comes to

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SNL and I remembered her from Brown

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University. So when we have her on this

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podcast I'll I'll call her Big Hair

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Woman. Oh

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>> she has an incredible

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performance.

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>> What famous singer was at your audition?

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>> Well that was I did it at in Santa

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Monica as well. a little club called

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Igbies. And Rosie O'Donnell was playing

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there and I had to ask her. I didn't

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even know Rosie O'Donnell. She seemed

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like the most confident person I ever

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met.

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>> Yeah.

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>> Could I lean in on your show and I'm

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going to bring Lauren Michaels? And then

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she said, "Okay." And we flipped the

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coin. I went on first, but Lauren walked

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in.

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>> Brandon Tardikoff, head of the network.

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I go, "God, I'm getting really nervous."

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And then Sher settled in. So that was my

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trio. Three shot. Here is your life. I

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if I didn't make it that night, I I

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think I'd be working at what was it?

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Car's car. Where'd you work? Cravings. I

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know it's gone, but I'd reopen it so I

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could work there.

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>> And how many minutes did you have, Dana?

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>> I I was actually doing the standup thing

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route. So, I had an hour, hour 10 of

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standup.

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>> Amazing.

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>> But you would audition at the comedy

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store and you do 5 minutes. Well, isn't

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that special? Get off. Didn't work. I

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bombed every time. I followed Kenisonson

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once.

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>> Dead silence. So this time I had 45 in a

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real club.

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>> Yeah.

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>> And I was just scared out of my mind.

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When when Marcy saw you

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>> Wow.

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>> Did you How was your nerve level at that

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point with your act? Did you were you

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getting really confident or a little

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Were you nervous when Marcy was there or

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she you didn't know who she was really?

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>> Let's see. She came to my Yeah. So she

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flew out and came to see my stage show

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which was about an hour, the Robin Molly

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show. And I was definitely nervous. I

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was Well, I was very excited that we got

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her to come see my show. So I was just

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thrilled. So we kind of I had kind of

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taken off a year from doing the shows

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because I was like I just I don't know

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if I have the heart to stay in this

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business. So really a year before that I

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really thought I might quit cuz and

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become a real estate agent or I don't

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know. I I but then I heard Marcy was

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coming to town. So I whipped together a

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show for at the last minute and I paid

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for the band and asked my partner Rob. I

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said do you mind could you do one more

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show please and I'll I'll take care of

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everything. I'll invite everyone. I'll

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just is all you have to do is show up.

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And he said okay. So, I was just really

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just excited that she was there and it

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was a great feeling in the audience and

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um so but yes, I'm sure I was nervous.

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But then for my actual audition flying

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to New York, I had 5 minutes at Standup

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New York with um Oh, wow.

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>> and I got to do characters and uh let's

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see. I'm trying to think. Yeah. So, that

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I was definitely very very nervous.

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>> Stand up. Well, I'm just interested, you

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know, if anyone's hearing this and

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they're like at a theater group in high

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school or something that you only

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Shannon was thinking maybe I gonna quit.

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Maybe I'm not going to do this. Of

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course, I think we all

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>> and then 18 months later or something,

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you know, a talent coordinator from SNL

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and then you're on your way. So,

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>> yeah,

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>> um we had reinforcing mechanisms being

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standups. That's how I made a living.

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So, I couldn't quit. But I I quit

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several times uh in college. I mean, I I

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bombed so bad. So, how did you deal with

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that? Were you Did you feel like you

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went into kind of a depression?

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>> Um,

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I wasn't like I never really got

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depressed for a long period of time, but

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I remember I had an audition

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um on a lot in the valley. I forget if

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it was CBS Radford. And I remember not

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being asked to stay. It was one of those

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things where you could see the girls who

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were they were going to say, "We're

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going to go straight to producers at

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5:00." So, you kind of know

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>> they hang around.

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>> They hang around. kind of know

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>> and you say you can go. They go, "Yeah,

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and you get to know the girls on the

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circuit, kind of the comedy girls or

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groundlings girls." And I went and did

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my thing and they were just like, "Thank

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you, Molly." You know, like next. And uh

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and then I walked out to the room and

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you could see the girls who were being

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asked to stay and I was just like, "Bye

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everyone. Good luck." My heart melted,

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you know,

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>> crushed. And I went out to the parking

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lot and I saw this great actress named

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Katherine Lenasa and she's just so

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lovely. And she she was like, "What were

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you auditioning for?" And I I I I think

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I forget what it was, but

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>> she was just so casual. And I remember

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she was like doing stretches by her car,

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like ballet and stretching her leg. And

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I was like, "Oh, I wish I could be easy

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breezy like Catherine Lassa, not

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caring." And and I was feeling dark,

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like, uh, this is so so much rejection.

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And I think I'll just go to Gellson's

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and get a half a chicken and go home and

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close my shades and call it a

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>> chicken. That's so nice. It kind of

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sounds delicious though in a way.

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>> It's delicious. Yeah. And that is what I

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did. But um I just in that moment was

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like

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>> I don't think I have the heart for this

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anymore. This is just too hard. So much

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rejection. And so um that's when I gave

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up for a year.

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>> I would be sitting in auditions and it's

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so depressing with Brad Pitt next to me

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and going like, "Are you reading for

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Hunk also?"

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>> Well, let's see who gets it.

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>> Uh let's stay friends after though if I

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get it. Anyway, I read for Paul Newman

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and Joanne Woodward.

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>> Did you really?

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>> They gave me a scene partner and I

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sucked. You've seen my movies. I mean, I

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didn't know what I was doing. So, Paul

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Newman's there and I'm in awe of Kooland

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Luke

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>> and he had these red socks on and John

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Woodward had a little dog and I just got

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confused and I'm with the scene partner

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and she was really good, but we just

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[ __ ] it up and we went outside the

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room and I go, "Man, that went bad." She

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goes, "You [ __ ] me, man."

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And Robbie Benson got the part. Robbie,

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if you're listening, you actually Benson

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really did.

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>> Robbie, Harry and Tanto, it was called.

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Robbie Benson was is a badass actor. But

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yeah, I felt bad that I took her down

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with me.

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>> I apologize. I apologize to Sherot Terry

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years later. No, I'm kidding. That's a

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joke.

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>> Were you just cold reading the scene?

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>> Yeah, you'd get it and you'd have you'd

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hold the script and you had a few

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minutes to look over it. That was a

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terrible Were you a good auditioner, do

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you think, and just had bad luck? Or

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were you I was

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>> Let's see. I think Well, what about what

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do you about you? So, I can't imagine

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you messing that up, Dana.

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>> Um, I was terrified of acting. I was

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good like doing my own comedy,

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>> but I to me actors were it was I never

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took any acting lessons. I never did any

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theater group. So, it was like what? I

00:14:36

got to sound like someone else. It seems

00:14:38

very easy now to me. Like I can really

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act good now,

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>> but I'm a little late to the game.

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>> But you know, sometimes people look down

00:14:46

on you like if they hear you're a

00:14:47

standup or maybe impro if you're with

00:14:49

with actor actors and I've been in

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auditions

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>> and they go, "Oh, so you're a stand-up."

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And I go, "Yeah." And I see them going,

00:14:54

"Oh boy." Like they know they think

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you're already they're already winning

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>> and they kind of are cuz it is harder.

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>> Yeah.

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>> I had I thought I was so naturally good

00:15:03

and I heard Eddie Murphy never took a

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class. So when I moved out here, I got

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some auditions right away cuz I was like

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blonde. When I was 20, I looked 15 and

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then I was like, I'm so naturally funny.

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So I I didn't know what I was doing, but

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I'm just like reading and I was then

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they're like, he's horrible. Like they

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just go, he doesn't know what he's

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doing. I go, no, I'm naturally gifted.

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And I wasn't. And then I had to do two

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years of class cuz they they wouldn't

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bring me back for auditions. They said

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he's too green.

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>> Oh my god.

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>> And it was such all my heat went away. I

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got to town. I had some heat

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>> and then it went away. And then two

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years later, I'd start again from

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scratch

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>> of like I know a little more. are like,

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I don't know how to hold the side. They

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don't look up or look down. I

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>> And you just need to have a little

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confidence to go in front of an acting

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teacher say when you walk in, do you do

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this? And she goes, no, that's a red

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flag. Like, so then I just learned, oh,

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so if I just go in and I don't do these

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things, at least I'm in the mix. I I

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read for Brandon Tardikoff.

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>> Did you?

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>> And right before, he's going to give me

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a holding deal. It was already all set.

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And I walked in and this [ __ ]

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Dennis, somebody, head of casting, I'm

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in the waiting room. I got a coach. I

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went over my [ __ ] size. I didn't know

00:16:04

what I was doing. And he walks in. And

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he goes, "Oh, I think we're going to do

00:16:07

these."

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>> And he switched it, took out of my hand,

00:16:10

put in a new thing. He goes, and I go,

00:16:12

"This is a new scene." They go, "Yeah."

00:16:14

They go, "Ready for you." And I go, "No,

00:16:15

no, I didn't have the balls." They go,

00:16:17

"Give me a second." I walked in, I just

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read it off the page. And they go,

00:16:20

"Thank you." And they go, "And my

00:16:22

manager Ges, how'd you [ __ ] that up?"

00:16:24

>> I go, "What do you mean?" He goes,

00:16:25

"There's no development deal. He he

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said, "You're too green." I go, "Well,

00:16:29

they did the old switcheroo on me." He

00:16:30

goes, "Well, no one's going to remember

00:16:32

that part." I read a love scene with

00:16:35

Lynn Stallmaster in a room in a dark No,

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it was a guy, right? Lynn Stallmaster.

00:16:40

>> He's a man, but it was just me and him

00:16:43

alone reading a love. I'm with this guy

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in a room. It's all and the lights are

00:16:47

down. I care about you so much.

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>> Don't you understand?

00:16:52

>> Yeah. Well, I like you, too.

00:16:55

My name's Judy, as you know. You know, I

00:16:57

mean, it's like So,

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>> it's so hard to Let's get back to our

00:16:59

guest. We do like to talk about

00:17:01

ourselves.

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Wait, I have to ask one question. David,

00:17:08

how old were you when you came to town?

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>> 20.

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>> 20.

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>> But he looked 15.

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>> But you could play.

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>> I tried to audition uh with your uh I

00:17:16

had a box of props. Gross. And I and I

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waited to improv.

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>> And you know what's funny? I had a

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Batman sweatshirt on to sort of signal I

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liked comedy. Like this is kind of like

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>> a good idea.

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>> So gross. But I was like, I'm kind of

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funny already, right? It was just a bat.

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I was like, huh? And like I crowd and

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go, you don't even need to audition. I

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know you got something going on.

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>> That's funny.

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>> And so I go out and then and then Dana,

00:17:41

you might have done this. They go, every

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3 minutes they pull it out of a hat. But

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I think it's all rigged because it's

00:17:47

even worse cuz you don't get sickened by

00:17:49

your audition. Every 3 minutes you're

00:17:51

sick cuz they go, "Is this it?

00:17:54

Jim Squankm. Nope. Nope. Got three more

00:17:56

minutes." And then every that's all

00:17:58

until midnight. Then they go just go

00:17:59

home. That's it, folks. And I was like,

00:18:01

"Oh, I never got picked." So I gave up

00:18:03

again for a year and then I came back to

00:18:05

LA. See, everyone quit.

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>> Try again. Everyone quit. It's just the

00:18:08

way it is. You have to check. I want to

00:18:10

hear what happened when you walked into

00:18:11

audition room cuz when I walked into it

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and I'd see all these versions of myself

00:18:15

like really young

00:18:18

men with no chins and and just sort of

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like So I'm like, "Oh, this is me. I'm

00:18:23

part of this tribe." So when you when

00:18:25

you walked into a Molly's channel,

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of Molly or was it

00:18:30

>> I mean I definitely when I started to

00:18:32

get further along there were definitely

00:18:34

like you know you probably oppos

00:18:36

audition opposite groundlings girls like

00:18:38

really talented kind of that those

00:18:40

really fantastic comedy girls.

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>> Um but before that no I don't think so

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but I would usually audition for like

00:18:47

the best friend or whatever that type of

00:18:49

thing.

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>> When did you get really when did you

00:18:51

kind of or did you always have it cuz I

00:18:52

was reading your book last night but I

00:18:54

just your internal confidence I'm always

00:18:56

fascinated by that. Is it?

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>> Cuz I would say mine would go up and

00:19:00

down. Do you have do you have I mean is

00:19:02

there there's a Molly in there that

00:19:03

goes,

00:19:04

>> "Fuck these people. I'm [ __ ] great,

00:19:06

right? Get out of my way, you know, or

00:19:09

or how do you process your talent and

00:19:11

and what happened to you? How do you pro

00:19:14

or is it just surreal to you?"

00:19:15

>> Um I think sometimes if I felt like I

00:19:17

remember auditioning for a commercial

00:19:20

and uh I was a waitress at the time. I

00:19:22

didn't have a lot of money, but they

00:19:23

were just like kind of rude. These like

00:19:26

producer writers were all there and kind

00:19:28

of blaming the actors and no, you know,

00:19:31

and it and uh I was just like and all

00:19:34

these really cool actors were

00:19:36

auditioning and and then I went and did

00:19:38

it and I think they weren't really

00:19:39

paying attention and they're just like

00:19:41

acting disinterested and they were

00:19:44

making everybody wait for a really long

00:19:46

time. And uh I then I think when I was

00:19:50

finished I said you know the the problem

00:19:51

you have is the writing. The actors are

00:19:53

all really good. These people are

00:19:53

talented. You got to fix your script.

00:19:55

This writing is not good enough.

00:19:56

>> A good one

00:19:57

>> because I was just like I I just so I

00:20:00

could be tough that way.

00:20:02

>> Um and just not care. If I knew that

00:20:04

something was right, I would get I think

00:20:07

sometimes that's a good

00:20:09

>> you know sometimes if you feel angry

00:20:11

that can be healthy, you know, standing

00:20:12

up for yourself. I definitely did stuff

00:20:14

like that where I was like, I don't give

00:20:15

a [ __ ] You know,

00:20:17

>> they start treating you so shitty

00:20:18

sometimes in those auditions. You go,

00:20:20

they don't even look up. They don't do

00:20:21

anything. They know they're not taking

00:20:22

you. They look at you, look down, and

00:20:23

go, "Oh, yeah. You're they're out." And

00:20:25

then they go, "Go ahead." And they go,

00:20:26

"We're not doing the other scenes."

00:20:27

That's the worst. Cuz the person before

00:20:29

you is there for 25 minutes and they're

00:20:31

laughing and chuckling and really

00:20:33

clicking the heels. And then I read one

00:20:34

scene, they go, "We're just doing one."

00:20:36

I go, "That last person did nine." And

00:20:38

then they go, "Well, we're just doing

00:20:39

one with you." And I go,

00:20:41

>> "Yeah." So I was so good I got it just

00:20:44

from that

00:20:45

>> they're like we'll explain in the

00:20:46

parking lot and get them out of here.

00:20:47

>> Exactly. And and I and understand I was

00:20:49

working with the public all the time as

00:20:51

a waitress and so I was always polite

00:20:54

and so I just thought it's Yeah. It's

00:20:56

disrespectful to treat people that way.

00:20:57

So at any level I don't think that I

00:21:00

think supplanting anger for fear is just

00:21:03

a nice move.

00:21:04

>> You know like I have a fear of flying

00:21:06

and sometimes I'll just manifest anger

00:21:08

to myself. [ __ ] this thing. Let's

00:21:10

[ __ ] light this candle. You know,

00:21:12

it's just a good way to get aggression

00:21:15

out, you know. Um,

00:21:17

>> wait, you mean that you So, you'll be

00:21:18

>> fearful, anxious,

00:21:20

>> to fly, and then you'll start saying

00:21:22

like, "Fuck this plane."

00:21:23

>> Yeah.

00:21:24

>> [ __ ] this. Let's light this candle. You

00:21:26

know, I don't know. A date is never me.

00:21:28

I never see you mean to anyone though.

00:21:30

>> Um, I

00:21:32

>> unless it's really really

00:21:33

>> people like me. I'm a nice guy, which is

00:21:36

kind of It could be also what an

00:21:38

obnoxious passive aggressive guy, you

00:21:40

know. Uh, depends what song you like.

00:21:43

But, uh, I had horrible anger issues in

00:21:45

my 20s and I would be nice until I

00:21:47

wasn't nice. Never make a nice guy mad

00:21:50

cuz then they have all this suppressed

00:21:52

anger stored up and I would go zero to a

00:21:55

thousand with a bank teller or a

00:21:57

director

00:21:58

>> and I never had a middle gear. Then I

00:22:00

figured out I have all this anger from

00:22:02

my childhood so I've been better.

00:22:04

>> It's like Molly said if you're bullied I

00:22:05

get that. I get bullied all the time. So

00:22:07

all my whole life. So if you get pushed

00:22:08

around, you get this or someone's very

00:22:10

disrespectful. I snap on a dime.

00:22:13

>> David, did you get bullied when you were

00:22:14

a kid?

00:22:15

>> Oh my god. Non-stop.

00:22:16

>> You did. What? When you were in grade

00:22:18

school?

00:22:18

>> I was a bit of a pipsqueak. I wasn't

00:22:20

this strapping athlete you see today.

00:22:22

>> And I was always pushed around and I

00:22:24

didn't have a dad, you know, and I was

00:22:26

mad my dad wasn't there. So one time I

00:22:28

fought back on this kid in sixth grade

00:22:30

and he kept pushing me and hitting me

00:22:32

for no reason and it was so humiliating.

00:22:34

>> That's awesome.

00:22:34

>> And then I'm like it just came out like

00:22:36

my dad left me. you want all this anger?

00:22:38

And I just went bananas on him. I'm sure

00:22:40

you and he went down his back and I

00:22:42

started beating the [ __ ] out of him and

00:22:44

the whole school was watching and they

00:22:45

and he crawled up and he goes, "The

00:22:47

coach is coming." And he ran. The coach

00:22:49

was not coming.

00:22:50

>> What was his name? I love

00:22:52

Oh yeah. Sandler brings him Ronnie

00:22:54

Carrasco was my last fight.

00:22:57

>> Ronnie Carrasco, you know, called me out

00:22:59

in seventh grade. We're terrified all

00:23:01

day. They then this kid was like in

00:23:03

fourth grade go, "We could hear the

00:23:05

punches, man. We could hear the punches.

00:23:07

>> You just get them in a headlock. We you

00:23:09

know. Anyway, by the way,

00:23:11

>> I had boys in high school. I should say

00:23:14

all of their names right now because

00:23:15

they deserve it. When when I would walk

00:23:18

by, they would nay at me like

00:23:20

>> and it really hurt my feelings.

00:23:23

>> Um all the time. I was like, what are

00:23:24

they? Why are they doing that? Do they

00:23:26

think that I look like a horse? And um

00:23:29

it was humiliating. And I wish I would

00:23:32

have spoken up or told, you know, the

00:23:34

the head of admissions or the

00:23:36

headmaster, but I never did. I would

00:23:37

just take it every day. And then I heard

00:23:40

that it was because there was a horse

00:23:42

named Molly in Animal Farm

00:23:44

>> and that was annoying. But every day

00:23:49

so mean.

00:23:50

>> God, if we can call those guys right

00:23:52

now, get it out.

00:23:53

>> They were twins.

00:23:55

>> [ __ ] Twins.

00:23:57

>> No, no, I won't say.

00:23:58

>> All twins are on standby right now. new

00:23:59

twins and another one and they were such

00:24:01

dorky twins.

00:24:03

>> Sandler bullies me cuz we I told him

00:24:05

that story one night 10 years ago and

00:24:08

then now we're like we're doing a gig in

00:24:10

St. Louis and he looks out of the crowd

00:24:11

and he goes I think Oscar's here and I

00:24:13

go get the [ __ ] out. Oh, he kind of he

00:24:15

knows it drops my heart. But is that

00:24:17

like was he

00:24:20

>> So you So you talk about him a lot cuz

00:24:23

>> I just did like to those guys just

00:24:27

Oscar who just was rabbit punching me

00:24:29

which is legal. I'm talking to some

00:24:31

people at little league and he just

00:24:32

starts rabbit punching me in the back of

00:24:34

the head. I'm like

00:24:34

>> that's a

00:24:35

>> and then immediately a circle around me.

00:24:37

No, no, there's not a fight here. Wham

00:24:39

in the face. I'm like I don't know. I

00:24:40

can't get mad. I don't know what we're

00:24:42

fighting about. And if you'll explain it

00:24:43

to me, I'll gladly.

00:24:45

>> Yeah.

00:24:45

>> Well, at least it was outside the house.

00:24:47

I got I got beaten in the house and

00:24:49

outside the house.

00:24:50

>> No, but I kind of ran, which is

00:24:52

>> You did. Why, Dina?

00:24:53

>> Well, Daddy liked to get a little He

00:24:56

likeical throw things around a little.

00:25:02

>> There's plenty of people had a couple

00:25:04

whoopins and I'm not sort of the drill

00:25:07

back then,

00:25:08

>> but my childhood that's a whole other

00:25:10

issue.

00:25:11

guest to do that. If you don't start a

00:25:14

podcast, you're the most curious guest

00:25:15

we've ever had. We can't even get to

00:25:18

>> Jana, you can't let that slip by me

00:25:20

because now I have so many questions.

00:25:22

Wow.

00:25:23

>> I know. Well, we'll we'll talk

00:25:24

afterwards.

00:25:25

>> Okay.

00:25:26

>> When we interview rolling,

00:25:28

>> we're going right.

00:25:29

>> I want to talk about

00:25:30

>> Yeah, it is a lot of No, I have to ask

00:25:31

you about a standup comic named

00:25:33

>> I don't like

00:25:33

>> you did a character, right? I don't

00:25:35

remember. I think I remember Darcy and

00:25:37

it was don't get me started. Were you

00:25:39

very like um

00:25:41

>> very monotone? Is that what you're

00:25:43

saying?

00:25:43

>> Yeah, she's kind of like um on the

00:25:45

spectrum maybe, but trying to get into

00:25:47

stand of comedy, has a lot of dreams,

00:25:49

but really not gifted, but she's like,

00:25:51

"Don't get me started. Don't even get me

00:25:54

started." And she does comedy that's

00:25:56

about dating, but she's probably like,

00:25:59

you know, very out of touch with

00:26:01

herself, but uh so she does, uh but that

00:26:04

I love doing that character. I did it at

00:26:06

the very end of SNL and I purposely did

00:26:08

it to not get any laughs because I was

00:26:10

kind of sick of always you got to make

00:26:14

that I did the opposite where I just and

00:26:16

I really just did

00:26:17

>> the jokes not really nailing it right.

00:26:18

They're they're probably bad, right?

00:26:20

>> Yeah. Intentionally bad. I did intent

00:26:22

and I did it to kind of make Jimmy

00:26:24

Fallon laugh and Will Ferrell laugh. It

00:26:26

was really kind of just for them and the

00:26:28

audience did not get it at all which was

00:26:30

perfect cuz I wanted it to be like dead

00:26:32

silent crickets and it took a while to

00:26:35

get it on cuz you know if you put

00:26:36

something through once and it doesn't

00:26:37

get on you really shouldn't push it

00:26:38

again but I pushed it through again and

00:26:41

it finally got on update and um

00:26:45

>> and uh it was great. And then

00:26:46

>> Were you with Jimmy?

00:26:47

>> I did it yes I did it with Jimmy. Yes, I

00:26:50

did it with Jimmy and then I did and

00:26:51

then Scott Wayne wrote a version where I

00:26:53

was performing at an old age home and

00:26:56

like don't get me started. Don't even

00:26:58

get me started.

00:26:59

>> Yeah, I remember that. You know, when

00:27:00

men leave the toilet seats up and she

00:27:02

would do this dorky comedy about men

00:27:04

versus women and um and um basically in

00:27:07

the sketch there were people dying in

00:27:10

the old age home being wheeled out who

00:27:11

would die. Their pulses stopped and I'm

00:27:13

still doing my stand up and I have no I

00:27:16

don't the character has no sense so she

00:27:18

doesn't care if people are laughing or

00:27:20

it was the most fun.

00:27:21

>> So do you feel like you're more

00:27:23

confident like that? I feel like I was

00:27:25

the most confident the day I stepped off

00:27:27

SNL. I kind always have a part of me

00:27:29

like maybe two more seasons cuz I

00:27:31

finally didn't give a [ __ ] in the best

00:27:33

sense of of that expression. Did you

00:27:37

feel like at that point

00:27:39

>> you're making Jimmy Fallon laugh? I mean

00:27:40

you must have evolved in terms of just

00:27:43

you know after doing you did a 100 shows

00:27:45

you just feel different about doing SNL

00:27:47

right at that point there's a

00:27:48

confidence.

00:27:49

>> That's true. Well I think Lauren's world

00:27:50

is so different than Hollywood. Like

00:27:52

Lauren doesn't care what anybody thinks.

00:27:53

He's like I like them. He'll take

00:27:55

somebody and he doesn't care. He does

00:27:57

his own thing. That's what I found

00:27:59

refreshing. Whereas maybe I felt the

00:28:01

town of Hollywood before I got SNL was a

00:28:03

little more like kind of people

00:28:05

following people or you know Lauren just

00:28:06

decides what he wants and he doesn't

00:28:08

care and they leave the world. They

00:28:10

don't fight him on everything.

00:28:12

>> Yeah. He's so good. So I really liked

00:28:13

Lauren's world and um yes I felt like it

00:28:16

was like a comedy boot camp. I felt like

00:28:20

I I got to a point there where I really

00:28:22

started to enjoy it. I was like you know

00:28:23

what? I'm not going to worry about if I

00:28:24

get something on or not. I'm just going

00:28:26

to enjoy it like a creative arts camp.

00:28:28

Like like I'm working with these amazing

00:28:30

writers and tal and such talented people

00:28:33

that if I start to look at it more as

00:28:34

like an arts camp, like a fun, you know,

00:28:37

that then I could enjoy it more. I mean,

00:28:38

look, we all know it's competitive, of

00:28:40

course. But I I changed my philosophy

00:28:43

about it like threearters of the way

00:28:45

through through there and just started

00:28:46

to really enjoy it, like pretend like

00:28:48

it's like like a summer camp for

00:28:50

creative people.

00:28:51

>> Did people calm you down? Because when I

00:28:52

I was battling nerves when we've talked

00:28:54

to Bill her and others around the nerves

00:28:56

of SNL and then I'd come out and I would

00:28:59

see the church lady said and I would see

00:29:02

Phil in his costume Phil Hartman and I

00:29:05

would see Jan and they would call me

00:29:07

down. I'm like these are my people and

00:29:08

love it.

00:29:09

>> So good. It's so much fun to have people

00:29:11

that are pretty much whatever damage why

00:29:14

we do this who we are in this little

00:29:16

tribe against the world. It's nice,

00:29:18

isn't it?

00:29:19

>> That is so cool. So what it sounds like

00:29:21

what you're saying is that you would

00:29:22

just feel like you're just with them and

00:29:23

you could like tune out the

00:29:25

>> Will Frell there and you're walking into

00:29:27

the set or Anna you got somebody does

00:29:29

kind of calm you down a little bit.

00:29:31

You're more excited and you're in it

00:29:33

together.

00:29:33

>> Exactly. I I actually Will and I wrote

00:29:36

this sketch once where we were two

00:29:38

characters. We did it center stage so

00:29:39

there's no excuse to not get a lot of

00:29:41

laughs because it was easier. And we

00:29:43

were played two characters who'd

00:29:45

recently lost 100 pounds and the sketch

00:29:48

tanked. Not a laugh. But Will and I made

00:29:51

a deal when we went out there. We were

00:29:52

like, "Okay, if if it's just crickets,

00:29:55

we're just going to commit harder."

00:29:57

>> See, I love that.

00:29:58

>> And we were looking at one another and

00:30:00

like a twinkle in our eye like, "Oh

00:30:02

[ __ ] we are bombing." And then we just

00:30:05

performed it harder and harder like,

00:30:07

"Can you believe it's 100?" And nobody

00:30:10

was laughing. I wish I could have a copy

00:30:12

of this sketch. And it was just exactly

00:30:14

like you say, Dana, like such a bonding.

00:30:16

It's like all I cared about was me and

00:30:18

Will. Will and me, nobody else matters.

00:30:20

And this might be the most fun I have

00:30:23

ever had. And I feel like you have to

00:30:25

embrace the bombing as much as the

00:30:29

scoring because they really go together.

00:30:31

You know,

00:30:32

>> it might be a clever bit because

00:30:33

sometimes the audience doesn't if they

00:30:36

don't get it, they they sometimes feel

00:30:37

like they're missing it and they go,

00:30:38

"This is good." Because in the old days,

00:30:40

you do a sketch like Cheburger

00:30:42

Cheburger. They don't know why it's

00:30:43

funny. And then they go, "Remember that

00:30:44

great sketch?" And Dan Akroyd goes, "Oh,

00:30:46

Conan's bombed three times." It's like

00:30:48

they would just keep doing it and then

00:30:49

finally it clicks in that and people go

00:30:51

I love this one

00:30:52

>> and it takes a while to get why it's

00:30:54

funny and and some it's not so easy

00:30:56

where it's just like joke jokes jokes or

00:30:57

I'm a crazy character and they go I get

00:30:59

that

00:31:00

>> but when you're doing something very dry

00:31:02

that's fun and if if they stick with it

00:31:04

sometimes by the end of the sketch or

00:31:05

the next time

00:31:06

>> you know you did all all these styles

00:31:08

you do this sort of very subtle acting

00:31:10

and uh

00:31:12

>> and then you you're doing u

00:31:14

>> Mary Katherine

00:31:16

>> Yeah

00:31:16

>> Gallagher you And and so that would be

00:31:18

if the sound broke at a bar, they're

00:31:20

watching SNL, the sound was off,

00:31:22

>> that was still going to get laughs and

00:31:24

then it was also funny with the sound.

00:31:26

It was like a atomic bomb of comedy,

00:31:29

right?

00:31:29

>> Oh yeah. Oh, that's so sweet. That

00:31:31

character was so fun.

00:31:32

>> I mean, yeah.

00:31:33

>> Did you not audition for that or am I

00:31:35

crazy?

00:31:35

>> I didn't audition for that because there

00:31:36

was a woman who around town who was

00:31:38

calling herself kind of the unofficial

00:31:40

talent scout who I won't say her name,

00:31:42

but she was like, "Whatever you do,

00:31:44

don't do that little character, Mary

00:31:45

Katherine Gallagher. when you audition

00:31:47

for Lauren because if you do that you'll

00:31:49

never get hired. So I listen to her.

00:31:52

>> Yeah. Isn't that crazy?

00:31:53

>> What a brain.

00:31:54

>> I had it with church church lady. I had

00:31:56

managers that that said uh you're doing

00:31:58

that too much in your act my stand up.

00:32:00

You're coming off gay. You know this is

00:32:02

the 80s. So worst case

00:32:04

>> scenario. I would only do five minutes

00:32:05

out of a 75minut standup set. I'm only

00:32:08

doing five minutes. Nah, it's too much.

00:32:09

You're coming off gay kid.

00:32:11

>> Interesting. And did you do it for when

00:32:13

you had that standup audition when

00:32:15

Lauren Michaels was there with Brandon

00:32:17

>> Yes. Yeah, that was in my

00:32:18

>> quiver. And I bet Lauren loved it.

00:32:21

>> Um Lauren was he said he knew at that

00:32:24

moment, you know, I I went through a

00:32:26

further audition and I was terrified,

00:32:28

but he he said he'd already decided at

00:32:30

that moment. And you had me at Lauren. I

00:32:33

love that Lauren. You know what thing is

00:32:35

great about Lauren cuz you're bring

00:32:37

making me nostalgic for him

00:32:38

>> is that he loves funny people. He loves

00:32:41

us.

00:32:42

>> We bomb him. He loves this. He just

00:32:44

loves that we're doing this.

00:32:45

>> Yeah. Yeah. He really does. It's so

00:32:48

sweet. He's

00:32:49

>> He is truly a legend. And the thought of

00:32:52

him not being there is just h or I can't

00:32:55

even imagine it. It's his show.

00:32:57

>> You mean this show?

00:32:58

>> It's his show.

00:33:00

They've integrated

00:33:01

>> and and he has so much love. You know,

00:33:03

people don't know that about him. And uh

00:33:06

he's such a deep thinker and loyal and

00:33:10

funny and so intelligent. And

00:33:12

>> you still talk to him or do you ever

00:33:13

>> Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah.

00:33:15

>> Well, he's fun to talk to.

00:33:16

>> He sort of has this this uh you know

00:33:19

he's a little intimidated at first cuz

00:33:21

he's so like but he's he's so vulnerable

00:33:23

underneath all that.

00:33:24

>> It's still your boss always forever.

00:33:26

It'll be like that's my boss.

00:33:28

>> Yeah. But he's sentimental. I mean now

00:33:30

that I'm after I turn 60 I just tell

00:33:32

people I love them and stuff really

00:33:33

casually. Sandler did it when he was in

00:33:35

his

00:33:35

>> coming off gay. You're coming off gay.

00:33:37

That's what Sandler said. So funny.

00:33:42

>> Your agent calls you out of the blue. I

00:33:44

heard you told your friend you loved

00:33:45

him.

00:33:46

>> You're coming gay. ARE YOU STILL THERE

00:33:48

ON THAT LADY CHARACTER? DOUBLE GANG.

00:33:50

>> GET OUT OF MY SIGHT.

00:33:51

>> THAT'S WAIT, WHO'S THE MANAGER who said

00:33:53

that? You can't say.

00:33:54

>> Oh,

00:33:55

>> no. That's okay. You don't have to say.

00:33:57

You don't have to say it.

00:33:58

>> Yeah. Uh, it was a, you know, look, they

00:34:02

>> it was the it was the '8s and, you know,

00:34:05

whatever. I don't I don't want to say it

00:34:06

was a big talent agency. And I I don't

00:34:08

think they were trying to [ __ ] with me.

00:34:09

They really believe that because

00:34:11

>> if you're not listening to the

00:34:12

character, well, well, well, it just

00:34:14

sounds like,

00:34:15

>> you know, you could say, you're

00:34:17

stereotypical. I'm playing some

00:34:19

affeminite character instead of a church

00:34:21

lady. So, a clever church lady

00:34:23

character.

00:34:23

>> So, it's very clever.

00:34:30

We should talk about the injuries you

00:34:31

took because that was a big part of your

00:34:33

book as I am.

00:34:34

>> I am okay.

00:34:36

>> All right. Orthopedically

00:34:37

>> cuz I remember you threw yourself around

00:34:38

like barley and he would be really in

00:34:41

pain and uh I think I remember when I

00:34:44

was still there we had overlaps cuz we

00:34:46

did play store. Dana, you guys were cast

00:34:48

members together, but and lovers. And

00:34:51

you weren't

00:34:52

>> Were I know you wrote, but were you also

00:34:54

paid as a writer or not?

00:34:56

>> No,

00:34:57

>> not the whole run.

00:34:58

>> Oh, paid as a writer. No, just

00:35:00

>> that crazy. Everyone

00:35:00

>> there. We all wrote

00:35:02

>> I think my They dropped my writing

00:35:03

credit when I went full cast. Um,

00:35:06

>> but it was But everyone still writes for

00:35:07

themselves obviously. And people at home

00:35:10

don't know that if you write it's fun to

00:35:12

write with a writer from the show

00:35:13

because you have to have someone watch

00:35:15

it, you know, like from from the booth

00:35:18

when you're rehearsing. If you write it

00:35:19

yourself and there's no one else

00:35:20

involved, who's watching? I don't even

00:35:22

know who watches it. So, you have to

00:35:24

write to get yourself a writing job.

00:35:26

>> Steve Corin,

00:35:27

>> who did you write the best with?

00:35:28

>> Um, I wrote with so many different

00:35:30

people like Paul Lel and Steve Corin and

00:35:33

um but basically it feels like I when I

00:35:36

first got there I was I was so you know,

00:35:39

oh my gosh, how do you figure this out?

00:35:41

But it just takes,

00:35:43

>> you know, feeling comfortable with one

00:35:44

person in the room. I think you have to

00:35:45

be able to be yourself. But I always

00:35:47

tell people who are trying to get into

00:35:49

writing. Um, if you just have that one

00:35:52

person you can be in the room with where

00:35:53

you don't feel dumb throwing out ideas

00:35:55

and you can really fully be yourself,

00:35:57

that's all it takes, you know, or write

00:35:58

by yourself.

00:35:59

>> And if you're a writer, it's good to

00:36:00

lock into someone else. That's good

00:36:02

because if you can write for someone,

00:36:03

you see these writers that are like Tim

00:36:05

Hurley, he's with Sandler for every

00:36:06

movie. Like there's a lot of people that

00:36:08

are double up and they just do movie

00:36:09

after show after movie.

00:36:11

>> And it really is important to find

00:36:12

someone you can lock into. uh on the

00:36:15

show. I I think what I was saying about

00:36:17

Mary Catherine is

00:36:19

>> I think they were using steel folding

00:36:21

chairs and I remember going are those

00:36:23

real steel folding chair. There's no she

00:36:26

keeps falling.

00:36:26

>> I remember feeling worried for you. I

00:36:28

mean I seen it live like whoa that

00:36:31

looked gnarly back onto whatever you're

00:36:34

falling on. I didn't I was kind reading

00:36:36

your book last night like you you were

00:36:38

like another type of Farley. I mean, I

00:36:40

don't think many people threw themselves

00:36:41

around

00:36:43

>> this the 8H like you did in that

00:36:45

character and you kind of got in a

00:36:47

hypnotic state in a way or you'd be

00:36:48

react

00:36:51

I didn't feel the pain when it was going

00:36:52

on. I would throw myself into metal

00:36:54

chairs and do crazy stuff

00:36:56

>> and I look at that now and I'm like, "Oh

00:36:58

my god, I'm so glad I didn't break my

00:37:00

neck or,

00:37:02

>> you know, my back." Yeah. I wasn't even

00:37:05

thinking about that. But then the next

00:37:07

day when I would wake up, I would be I

00:37:08

would definitely feel like, oh, my

00:37:10

muscles hurt and I would have cuts and

00:37:11

bruises and um so I would feel it the

00:37:14

next day, but I also liked it because I

00:37:16

felt like I worked really hard and threw

00:37:18

myself into the character and I really

00:37:20

did want to perform and be physical and

00:37:22

be like the boys when I started and I

00:37:24

really wanted to do that and then it

00:37:26

also helped me kind of pour my nervous

00:37:28

energy into the character because I was

00:37:29

so nervous. So the physical aspect of it

00:37:32

felt like a release.

00:37:34

>> I got that. Yeah. And so how big how

00:37:36

what was the evolution of that becoming

00:37:38

a movie? It would you did it and then

00:37:40

you did it and then it became a huge hit

00:37:41

and it was exploding when you come out

00:37:44

and you get applause. I mean that feels

00:37:46

great, right?

00:37:47

>> That feels so good. Um I guess

00:37:52

especially because well I uh it took a

00:37:57

while to get on because I put it at the

00:37:59

read through and then um Lauren liked it

00:38:02

right away. He was like, "Oh, let's wait

00:38:03

and save it and we'll do it with Gabriel

00:38:04

Burn." And then

00:38:07

he was Yeah. Perfect.

00:38:08

>> So then Gabriel Burn came. But then when

00:38:10

it for the show order

00:38:13

that that week for the dress rehearsal,

00:38:15

it was on the B. It was at the bottom

00:38:17

and uh I was like, why why is this at

00:38:19

the bottom? Which means it's probably

00:38:20

going to get cut for the dress show.

00:38:22

>> It was late in the show.

00:38:23

>> Um it was late in the show. The dress

00:38:25

schedule is not going to make it. Yeah.

00:38:27

they don't have

00:38:28

>> and so I that but that was kind of good

00:38:30

because like I thought h I'm going to

00:38:31

have to show them and I think because

00:38:33

I'd read it at the table they weren't

00:38:34

understanding how physical it was going

00:38:35

to be and because I'd done it in my show

00:38:37

that character in my show for so many

00:38:39

years I knew what it was when I did it

00:38:41

in my stage show I would climb the walls

00:38:43

and get up on the rafters and they'd

00:38:45

have to pull peel me down off the wall

00:38:47

so I

00:38:48

>> and did you have the outfit sorry did

00:38:49

you have the outfit in the stage show

00:38:51

>> and and no in the stage show I think I

00:38:53

just wore a black skirt she became a

00:38:55

Catholic school

00:38:55

>> that it was very funny look with the

00:38:57

underwear and everything underwear.

00:38:59

Bobby socks. Yeah. So, go ahead. So,

00:39:01

>> so then I thought I'm really going to

00:39:02

have to show them. So, that was kind of

00:39:05

good. So, for the dress show, I just

00:39:08

really went crazy performing it. And

00:39:10

people went crazy. It got such a great

00:39:13

response. And then I went into Lauren's

00:39:16

office between Dress and Air to see what

00:39:19

made it to the live show. And my sketch

00:39:22

got moved from the bottom of the show to

00:39:24

the top.

00:39:25

>> I was number one. That same thing

00:39:26

happened with a church lady.

00:39:27

>> Is that right?

00:39:28

>> Something about these characters. Did

00:39:30

you have the smell the armpits and

00:39:31

superstar on the first one?

00:39:33

>> I did superstar as a joke. I threw it in

00:39:35

for my friend cuz we used to always my

00:39:37

friend Deborah Polmo as a joke. I I used

00:39:39

to always go superstar just so I did it

00:39:42

for her. I threw I exited the stage as

00:39:45

Mary Katherine Gallagher. Then I came

00:39:46

back in and slid on chairs and just

00:39:48

under my breath went superstar for my

00:39:50

friend at home watching to make her

00:39:52

laugh. So it was just thrown back said

00:39:54

then we kept it in as like a

00:39:55

>> ref then it became it's just like a

00:39:57

great exclamation point someone who just

00:40:00

fell all over the place and owning it.

00:40:02

>> Yes. Exactly. And it's also um

00:40:04

>> and so proud of it.

00:40:05

>> Yeah. And it's a representation of my

00:40:08

childhood of overcoming hard stuff and

00:40:11

still having resilience and hope and

00:40:13

maybe stumbling and falling and maybe

00:40:17

looks like they're not going to make it

00:40:19

and then they rise above the wreckage.

00:40:22

It's a repeat dance of those themes.

00:40:26

>> So you you were able to sometimes people

00:40:28

ask me where things came from and all

00:40:30

that and I'm I try to come up with an

00:40:31

answer and sometimes I'm not sure but

00:40:33

you were able for yourself

00:40:35

>> to figure out at some point that that

00:40:37

character was a manifestation of stuff

00:40:39

that happened to you.

00:40:40

>> Exactly.

00:40:41

>> And it was like self-care basically.

00:40:44

>> Yeah.

00:40:44

>> I get to reenact this but be superstar

00:40:46

at the end without what that's so

00:40:48

interesting.

00:40:49

>> It's like healing. So before I was even

00:40:51

in therapy, I would do the character on

00:40:54

stage and I remember a friend came once

00:40:56

and they said, "Oh, that character, the

00:40:58

school girl, or it wasn't a school girl

00:40:59

then, Mary Cathol seems, she seems

00:41:01

angry." I was like, "Angry?" Really? I I

00:41:03

didn't I I thought, "Oh, that's

00:41:05

interesting."

00:41:06

>> But uh because the original scene was

00:41:08

just a girl auditioning to try to be in

00:41:10

a David Lynch movie and we would just

00:41:11

improvise and I'd be like, "No, no,

00:41:13

you're not understanding." And I have to

00:41:14

prove myself and get this person to, you

00:41:17

know, like me and cast me. And so it's

00:41:19

just a little exercise in trying to be

00:41:22

seen and understood

00:41:24

>> and um so yes, so that's where art can

00:41:27

like save people, you know what I mean?

00:41:29

That performance as a release

00:41:32

>> and um does that make sense? So

00:41:33

sometimes you can be in the in like in

00:41:35

so in your in your work and being

00:41:38

creative and not realize what it is

00:41:40

you're trying to express and not be able

00:41:42

to be objective about it till later.

00:41:44

Does that make sense? Yeah, I think uh

00:41:45

you know in a cartoon way I think that's

00:41:47

a really evolved way to think of things

00:41:49

in that character. Um I did a lot of

00:41:51

passive aggressive characters because I

00:41:53

had trouble expressing anger because I

00:41:55

grew up with a lot of anger in the

00:41:56

household. So you you were just taught

00:41:58

to suppress it.

00:41:59

>> So Hans and Fron I don't know you kind

00:42:02

of even looking me and you you know

00:42:05

church lady well you're don't quite know

00:42:07

what you're doing. So all my characters

00:42:09

were kind of angry initially and passive

00:42:12

aggressive. I guess that was healing.

00:42:14

So, let me ask you a question. So, so

00:42:15

you felt so in your house, but you said

00:42:17

that your dad could be really aggressive

00:42:19

and violent.

00:42:20

>> Yeah, violent you had to did you what

00:42:24

how did you survive it? Hey, Charles,

00:42:26

>> I'm going to disappear basically. So, we

00:42:29

weren't like I asked Sandler about that.

00:42:32

Oh, and his family was just like they

00:42:34

could yell at each other nose to nose.

00:42:37

You want to get some ice cream? Okay.

00:42:38

You know, healthy.

00:42:40

>> Yeah.

00:42:40

>> This was not that. Yeah, it was the 60s,

00:42:43

five kids, a lot of independence. See

00:42:46

you later, you know. So, I mean, I I

00:42:47

survived.

00:42:48

>> What was your mom like?

00:42:49

>> Um, she was sort of very sweet but very

00:42:53

dainty and and very much under his thumb

00:42:57

and she was the artsy one.

00:42:59

>> Interesting.

00:43:02

>> These big families, you know, we raise

00:43:04

each other a lot. We scrambled. It was

00:43:07

like if there was sugary cereal, get it

00:43:09

now, you know, that kind of stuff. So,

00:43:11

um, anyway, it's very interesting. It's

00:43:13

always fascinating. Like David, he had

00:43:14

an easy childhood, so it's still he's so

00:43:17

[ __ ] funny, but with just a Oh, no.

00:43:21

>> David, you were raised by your mom.

00:43:24

>> Yes. I'll take this question from Molly.

00:43:26

>> Yes. You were raised by your mom.

00:43:27

>> Uh, my mother, I was saying about Dana's

00:43:30

mother, like it sounds like mine. She

00:43:31

was very like creative and she was a

00:43:34

writer and she loved artsy stuff and

00:43:36

always wanted us to do anything like

00:43:38

that that we thought was my brother was

00:43:40

more artistic, you know, anything

00:43:42

comedy, anything, she loved it. She

00:43:44

loved writing so she would always push

00:43:45

that but that the dad wasn't around. I

00:43:47

think you had sort of

00:43:49

>> uh the reverse of that with your mom and

00:43:52

you had a tough uh I think it's funny

00:43:54

because all these comedians

00:43:56

>> it just always sort of is the same

00:43:58

>> type of story where it's just tough, you

00:44:00

know, and a lot of people have tough

00:44:02

growing up. I mean that's we're not

00:44:03

we're not all

00:44:04

>> and they're not all comedians.

00:44:05

>> It's just that's why we're not that

00:44:07

special in that regard. But I did I was

00:44:10

lucky to have a mom that was very, you

00:44:13

know, she had it dealt some tough cards,

00:44:15

but she tried her best and the dad was

00:44:19

around. But I think the mom really tried

00:44:20

to make up for it, you know.

00:44:21

>> That's great.

00:44:22

>> She was great. She's still around. Thank

00:44:23

God cuz that's a tough one. And uh

00:44:26

>> I think that plays into everything, you

00:44:29

know.

00:44:29

>> Yeah.

00:44:30

>> It only takes one. It's like I think

00:44:32

>> you need something. Yeah.

00:44:34

>> If you have one good parent,

00:44:36

>> I like the figure of sweets. They say

00:44:38

having a champion.

00:44:39

>> Yeah.

00:44:39

>> And when I was reading your book this

00:44:41

morning, uh your dad became your your

00:44:43

champion like you can do anything. My

00:44:45

mom was like that with all of her

00:44:46

siblings, you know.

00:44:48

>> So it was we did we were

00:44:50

>> with all her children or all her

00:44:51

siblings?

00:44:51

>> With all her all of us kids.

00:44:54

>> With all of you kids,

00:44:56

you know, so she was supportive that

00:44:57

way.

00:44:58

>> Did she stay married to your dad?

00:44:59

>> She did.

00:45:00

>> She did. That's so interesting.

00:45:02

Interesting.

00:45:02

>> Oh, 1940s, 1950. It's that generation.

00:45:06

You don't leave. Well, well, let me ask

00:45:08

you this. So, so she um

00:45:12

So, did you feel like you had to be more

00:45:15

like her?

00:45:16

>> No, I kind of I kind of took care of

00:45:19

her.

00:45:20

>> Yeah.

00:45:20

>> Yeah.

00:45:21

>> I was her surrogate husband.

00:45:23

>> That's so interesting. That makes sense.

00:45:25

That's I had that a little bit with my

00:45:27

father, too. There's nothing to be

00:45:29

embarrassed about with a

00:45:30

>> Oh, no. It was It's just normal

00:45:32

codependency. How do How do you get

00:45:33

attachment? How do you get love? And by

00:45:35

behaving this way, you get it. You

00:45:36

don't. I went to therapy, too. Maybe we

00:45:38

went to the same therapist. You are. I

00:45:40

have to say, I don't know how much more

00:45:42

time we have. We've never had a guest

00:45:44

quite like you. You're so interested.

00:45:46

>> You're interested in us and we love it.

00:45:47

Narcissist.

00:45:48

>> So interesting. Well, you guys are so

00:45:50

talented and and I have to say it's so

00:45:52

fun doing the show because I would

00:45:54

rather hear you guys talk.

00:45:56

>> Yes, we would too. We know that

00:45:59

listening to this particular episode

00:46:01

want to hear about Molly Canon, you

00:46:03

know. Well, I like talking about

00:46:05

anything like that because I think that

00:46:06

that's it's helped so much.

00:46:07

>> I like talking about

00:46:09

>> therapy helps so much.

00:46:10

>> Yeah. How long did you go?

00:46:11

>> A long time.

00:46:12

>> Okay. I went five years, but maybe I'll

00:46:14

I'll go back.

00:46:15

>> That's great.

00:46:16

>> She's driving me nuts. Molly's got such

00:46:18

an interesting disposition cuz you're

00:46:20

always upbeat and you're such a good

00:46:22

listener and even we don't have to talk

00:46:24

about it but when we were at that norm

00:46:26

thing the other day um

00:46:27

>> you're such a good articulate

00:46:30

uh speaker and you speak from the heart

00:46:33

about any subject and just when out

00:46:36

>> and you meet people you're just very

00:46:38

locked in. It's very you don't see that

00:46:41

a lot. You think you do but you don't.

00:46:42

And so it's very uh uh and then your

00:46:46

whole upbringing and just to this point

00:46:48

in your comic, it's just we're also been

00:46:50

through the ringer in a weird way.

00:46:52

>> And uh it's funny cuz when you finally

00:46:54

make it, you're like, "What the [ __ ] was

00:46:55

that about?" Like, "Was it worth it?"

00:46:57

But you're very uh I just have to give

00:47:00

you a compliment that when you're out

00:47:01

>> and about, she's got such a good vibe

00:47:03

about it. Everyone loves it.

00:47:05

>> You must have a lot of friends. Is if

00:47:06

you're a curious person, people like

00:47:08

that.

00:47:08

>> That's You know what I was going to say?

00:47:09

Don't you think like sometimes I think

00:47:11

going through that tough stuff when

00:47:13

you're little does give you that kind of

00:47:15

command of an audience, that control?

00:47:17

You have to have some kind of weird

00:47:18

skill to be able to, you know, do what

00:47:22

you guys do like get get up and perform

00:47:24

and know how to like hold a crowd. I

00:47:26

mean, that's not an easy thing. How how

00:47:29

do you think your childhood gave you

00:47:31

that ability to do to have that special

00:47:34

skill?

00:47:35

>> Oh god, these are really good questions.

00:47:37

It's maybe attention.

00:47:38

>> I'm actually recording this. I Yeah, I'm

00:47:41

going to use it for my book.

00:47:44

>> Dana.

00:47:45

>> Hello, Dana.

00:47:48

>> Well, hello.

00:47:49

>> Oh my god, it feels so good to laugh.

00:47:52

>> One thing I will think though is I don't

00:47:54

like I feel like I feel like the

00:47:56

healthier I become, I feel like

00:47:58

>> I don't want to keep going toward those

00:47:59

old patterns of going toward pain or

00:48:02

this or that you're not good enough.

00:48:03

It's like, oh my god. After a while,

00:48:06

>> you know what I mean? when you have your

00:48:07

health and this and that, be happy,

00:48:08

right? It's like, oh my god, give me a

00:48:10

break.

00:48:10

>> It's a great thing.

00:48:11

>> I have to ask you about the the show

00:48:12

where you at QVC. It's called I love

00:48:15

that for you.

00:48:16

>> I love that for you and we talk to your

00:48:18

lovely co-star.

00:48:19

>> Do you know we talked to your lovely

00:48:20

coach?

00:48:20

>> You talked to Vanessa.

00:48:21

>> I actually saw the first two episodes

00:48:23

last night.

00:48:24

>> I saw one. That's so sweet.

00:48:26

>> I love when you do characters and then

00:48:29

the character does a little character

00:48:31

voice.

00:48:31

>> Oh,

00:48:32

>> it's so funny.

00:48:33

>> That's so such a specific thing only you

00:48:35

could say. I love it. Just do a little

00:48:36

bit cuz you're like

00:48:40

whatever you do.

00:48:40

>> Well, she you're for the people at home.

00:48:43

>> Yes.

00:48:44

>> For the I mean in their home.

00:48:44

>> This is on Showtime. Vanessa Bayer.

00:48:47

>> Yes. I love that for you, Vanessa. Such

00:48:49

a

00:48:50

>> I love that for you. It's a really cool

00:48:53

show.

00:48:53

>> You say what it is.

00:48:54

>> Oh yeah. I play a host of a home

00:48:56

shopping network and I'm like the queen

00:48:58

saleserson and I

00:49:00

>> can sell stuff like this is the cutest

00:49:03

little jar of sugar. You see, you know,

00:49:05

and Vanessa taught me how to do it, but

00:49:06

this is what these women do, and they're

00:49:07

very good at selling.

00:49:09

>> Very funny to watch.

00:49:10

>> Yeah. But Vanessa grew up watching it,

00:49:12

so it's based on her childhood. And

00:49:13

Vanessa Vanessa and I are both from

00:49:15

Cleveland, Ohio. And

00:49:17

>> hilarious.

00:49:17

>> Vanessa is another one who she seems

00:49:18

almost like she could be a

00:49:19

psychotherapist, not an actress. She's

00:49:21

very calm and real life. Did you Did you

00:49:23

find that? She's so grounded.

00:49:28

>> You know, and you before Molly, you saw

00:49:30

one and she plays there the uh QVC girl.

00:49:33

And it is kind of funny for you cuz I

00:49:34

like it cuz it's very calming to hear

00:49:36

those people talk like you said and

00:49:38

you're just so happy. I could just drone

00:49:40

on and watch them for a while because

00:49:42

they're very interested in what they're

00:49:43

talking about. They're very interested

00:49:44

in the audience and they're just talking

00:49:45

to you and they don't [ __ ] stop and

00:49:47

it and it and they showed Vanessa going

00:49:49

through the audition process

00:49:51

>> of that show and it seems very hard that

00:49:53

show. It made me scared to be on QVC

00:49:55

because

00:49:56

>> you you just got to run it and then they

00:49:57

have a a graph showing when the sales go

00:49:59

down. Did you say something wrong? And

00:50:02

you go and she accidentally um smells

00:50:04

something and acts like it smells kind

00:50:06

of bad for a half a second and then he

00:50:07

go the sales [ __ ] plummeted.

00:50:09

>> Yeah.

00:50:10

>> Just now half a second cuz you didn't

00:50:11

>> I have a friend who trained for it for

00:50:13

uh his for a shampoo uh line and he said

00:50:16

he was terrible. But they they put you

00:50:18

through training and there's a certain

00:50:19

type of language they have to use but he

00:50:21

said if you talk about like mama or god

00:50:23

the ratings go up like my mama says you

00:50:26

know this sugar is the best. Thank God

00:50:29

for, you know, church on Sunday, you

00:50:31

know, sales tick. So, there's just

00:50:33

certain things.

00:50:34

>> I wonder what we should say in this

00:50:35

podcast to make our ratings go.

00:50:37

>> No, you don't say anything.

00:50:38

>> Hallelujah. David,

00:50:39

>> hallelujah. Hallelujah.

00:50:42

>> Praise. No, I don't want to say that.

00:50:45

>> Um,

00:50:46

>> I don't go for ratings. Yes, I do.

00:50:48

>> Uh, no, I do. Uh, Molly, we

00:50:50

>> So, Molly, how do you uh how uh So,

00:50:53

yeah.

00:50:53

>> Do you like apples?

00:50:55

>> Apples. What's your favorite? Have you

00:50:57

ever

00:50:57

>> I know you like half chicken.

00:50:58

>> Can I ask you a question? Have you ever

00:51:00

at a dinner

00:51:02

>> been to like a group dinner and just

00:51:04

there was like a little bit of a silence

00:51:06

or a lull in the conversation? Just said

00:51:08

something just to fill the air. David,

00:51:10

you go first.

00:51:12

>> That's all I do.

00:51:12

>> That's a good one. That's all you do.

00:51:14

>> Yeah. I go, "Do you like apples?" I go,

00:51:15

"I already asked you."

00:51:17

>> I go to I go to uh what's your net

00:51:20

worth? That gets everyone going. That

00:51:22

gets everyone. Have you ever encountered

00:51:25

anything supernatural besides meeting

00:51:27

me? And then people have ghost stories

00:51:30

and that I did that with Julie Roberts

00:51:32

and Tom Hanks and these people at this

00:51:34

Shakespearean comedy ghost sto

00:51:38

>> Tom would have you would go on you would

00:51:41

do Shakespeare but you could do it any

00:51:42

way you wanted. So I was just doing it

00:51:44

like hey how you doing on Shakespeare?

00:51:45

You know it's like and it's a big

00:51:47

charity event he does and this was 10

00:51:49

years ago. So then Julia Roberts and all

00:51:51

these actors and we're all around the

00:51:53

table and it's be a little bit of like

00:51:54

that small talk. Well, I think so. You

00:51:57

too. And I go, "Have you guys ever seen

00:51:58

a ghost or any supernatural thing?" And

00:52:00

then everyone has a story.

00:52:02

>> Yeah. So Molly Shannon,

00:52:04

>> that's great.

00:52:04

>> I ask you, yeah, do you

00:52:07

>> have you ever encountered

00:52:09

>> a UFO? Something you couldn't explain.

00:52:11

It kind of freaked you out.

00:52:12

>> Um I you I lived in this apartment in

00:52:14

Hollywood that man Ray used to live in.

00:52:16

I like your question, Dana. And um when

00:52:19

I was a struggling actress with my

00:52:20

roommate Brian Donovan and it had

00:52:21

cathedral ceilings and it was across an

00:52:23

El Poo logo on the corner of Fountain

00:52:25

and Vine and I had just like a lot scary

00:52:29

over there.

00:52:30

>> Yeah. A little scary

00:52:32

old Hollywood

00:52:32

>> Franklin Hotel or something. Yeah.

00:52:34

>> Yeah. Yeah. It's just

00:52:35

>> It's a bit sketch though.

00:52:36

>> And um and um we live there together.

00:52:40

And I remember I we had a party and this

00:52:43

guy this like guy who was at the party

00:52:45

was like them's ghosts in here and I I

00:52:49

said really where's he from?

00:52:51

>> He was from Arkansas.

00:52:52

>> Does that scare you though about ghosts?

00:52:54

That would scare me.

00:52:54

>> No, cuz I didn't really believe but I

00:52:56

would have dreams at night. I don't know

00:52:57

if it was sleep paralysis but I would

00:52:59

have a dream where I was being held down

00:53:01

in only in that apartment.

00:53:04

>> Did you have you ever had that?

00:53:05

>> I had it at Sanro Ranch which I made my

00:53:07

wife. We left the hotel in the middle of

00:53:09

the night.

00:53:10

>> Why?

00:53:11

>> I had it twice and I'm like, "What the

00:53:12

[ __ ] is this?"

00:53:13

>> A push down like a feeling

00:53:14

>> you they It's from nightmares. The

00:53:17

feeling of a horse lying down on you.

00:53:19

>> And then I had the house we have up in

00:53:21

Northern California. It's from 1909. I

00:53:23

had it in there also. White noise I had

00:53:25

in there, too. Why is everyone sleeping?

00:53:28

When I was What the Where's that?

00:53:31

>> Yeah. Your brain, but I'm not afraid of

00:53:35

anything anymore really at this age.

00:53:36

That's so good.

00:53:38

>> But what happened? So was this ghost.

00:53:39

Did you meet the ghost?

00:53:40

>> That's all. No, but I would just feel

00:53:41

like I was being held down or I would

00:53:43

feel like there was somebody at the edge

00:53:44

of the bed holding my feet down and then

00:53:47

I would wake up and it was only in that

00:53:48

apartment. When I left, it never

00:53:49

happened again. Isn't that weird?

00:53:51

>> We got a call. We get Dan Akroyd on this

00:53:53

podcast. He loves this stuff. Dan's into

00:53:56

it. Wow. He would really be fascinated

00:53:59

by that.

00:54:00

>> But you weren't I would be scared

00:54:01

shitless.

00:54:03

>> Yeah, I was a lot.

00:54:03

>> When I hear any noises, I'm scared. And

00:54:05

I had another scary thing at that

00:54:06

apartment too where there was in my

00:54:09

bedroom a peeping tom in the alley like

00:54:11

I saw a head while I was changing and I

00:54:13

was like peeping to. And so then I ran

00:54:17

out to the front and called the security

00:54:19

guard. I was like Andrew, Andrew, come

00:54:21

here. Come here. Hurry, hurry. And he

00:54:23

came came into the door and I almost

00:54:26

have to get up and demonstrate, but I

00:54:27

don't want to go away from the

00:54:27

microphone. Walked in and um came in.

00:54:31

What? What? What? And then while he was

00:54:33

in the door, he got in and then he

00:54:35

slammed the door shut with his foot. And

00:54:38

it was within seconds that I realized,

00:54:40

oh no, that was him. And now I just let

00:54:42

HIM INTO MY APARTMENT.

00:54:44

>> OH WOW.

00:54:45

>> ISN'T that scary? He was like this. I'm

00:54:46

going to demonstrate. He was like, what?

00:54:48

Molly standing up and closed the door,

00:54:51

>> kicking her foot back.

00:54:52

>> Scary.

00:54:53

>> And now you locked him in the room with

00:54:56

you.

00:54:56

>> Then he was in the room. I I did quickly

00:54:58

get him out cuz my I just was

00:55:00

>> You figured out

00:55:02

then you realized

00:55:04

>> in the hell I didn't see anything

00:55:06

anymore. You can go now.

00:55:07

>> Yeah. I was like

00:55:10

you think there's a killer.

00:55:12

>> Here's what he should have done, Molly.

00:55:13

He should have closed the door while you

00:55:14

were behind him and he should have gone,

00:55:17

he's not in the alley anymore. And then

00:55:18

he goes, he's in your room and turned to

00:55:22

you.

00:55:22

>> Oh my god.

00:55:22

>> And then you would have gone, oh my god.

00:55:25

>> Oh my god. Did you ever see that movie

00:55:27

when a stranger calls calls come from

00:55:29

inside the house? I don't want you to do

00:55:30

that to me. I can't.

00:55:32

>> Lives alone in a 19,000 foot house with

00:55:35

no security.

00:55:36

>> Are you David?

00:55:37

>> Well, I definitely haven't seen any

00:55:38

scary movies. I would not see it. There

00:55:40

was no I didn't see the exist. I didn't

00:55:42

see any of the biggies. No

00:55:44

>> no. Why am I inviting? I have enough

00:55:46

nightmares. I want to add

00:55:49

more room. Stressful.

00:55:56

All right, Molly, let's let's get Molly

00:55:58

out of here. She's been

00:56:00

great.

00:56:00

>> We have one final question.

00:56:02

>> Yes, she's the greatest guest ever.

00:56:04

>> What did you eat for breakfast? Dana

00:56:07

first.

00:56:09

>> Dana first.

00:56:10

>> Dana first.

00:56:11

>> The same thing I have every day. Molly,

00:56:13

I had uh one egg and and one egg white.

00:56:17

>> Um I had um some avocado I sliced up. I

00:56:22

had a half piece of sourdough.

00:56:23

>> You're gay.

00:56:24

>> Toast. You're gay. You're getting

00:56:28

>> That's the name of the episode.

00:56:30

>> So, avocado toast and those two things.

00:56:32

And then my wife made a thing she calls

00:56:34

a green drink. A little bit of pear and

00:56:37

spinach

00:56:38

>> and stuff like that. And

00:56:40

>> that sounds so

00:56:40

>> What did you have? That sounds exactly

00:56:42

the kind of breakfast I Yeah,

00:56:44

>> I had a Gson's half a chicken. No, I

00:56:47

just had a smoothie. I had a banana

00:56:49

almond milk smoothie right before I

00:56:51

came.

00:56:52

>> David, what did you have?

00:56:54

>> You know, uh, the big story is when you

00:56:57

said that about Kelson's, when I moved

00:56:59

out here to stay with the Funny Boys to

00:57:00

do stand up, I had no money.

00:57:02

>> Yeah.

00:57:02

>> And I just had change.

00:57:03

>> Yeah.

00:57:04

>> And he goes, "You can keep the There's

00:57:05

change up on the counter if you want

00:57:06

it." So, I felt so embarrassed, but when

00:57:08

I went to do stuff, I would scrape the

00:57:10

change and I went to Ralph's on fountain

00:57:12

way down there.

00:57:13

>> Yeah.

00:57:14

>> It was Ralph's or something. And then um

00:57:16

I went and I got the rotisserie chicken

00:57:18

in the thing, same thing. And just took

00:57:19

a lot of food. I ate and they come home.

00:57:24

I go

00:57:26

like

00:57:28

I really went at it cuz I haven't eaten

00:57:29

all day. And then I know if I get a spot

00:57:31

at the improv, you get a free pineapple

00:57:33

chicken where it's like a little breast

00:57:34

with a pineapple circle on top. Woofed.

00:57:37

Yeah, cuz that was it. You don't know

00:57:39

where the next one is.

00:57:40

>> And so but this morning, eggs.

00:57:42

>> Oh, eggs.

00:57:43

>> Eggs. Scram. And uh the only interesting

00:57:46

thing I have well done bacon. That's not

00:57:48

that interesting. And then I have a

00:57:50

little

00:57:50

>> What's your plain oatmeal, sir?

00:57:52

>> A little plain oatmeal. No bread.

00:57:54

>> Yes.

00:57:55

>> Don't wait. I try not to eat too much

00:57:57

wheat now. God, we're so old. Sourdough.

00:58:00

It's the most benign. Come on. It's Joe

00:58:02

Biden. It's sourdough.

00:58:03

>> Okay.

00:58:03

>> I don't say inflation. I'm doing Biden.

00:58:07

It's inflation. The Pirates of the

00:58:09

Caribbean.

00:58:10

>> Is it a joke or is it no joke?

00:58:12

>> It's no joke.

00:58:12

>> It's no joke.

00:58:14

No, we're not getting around here.

00:58:15

>> Biden's always

00:58:16

>> final question. Oh, we getting the last

00:58:18

one on her.

00:58:19

>> Yeah, if the decks are clear, the kids

00:58:21

are great, everything. What's a Molly's

00:58:24

super day like your mental health day?

00:58:27

This is Molly's day off.

00:58:29

>> Okay, I like that question. Um, I would

00:58:31

I definitely like to exercise because it

00:58:33

relaxes me.

00:58:34

>> You go for a hike.

00:58:35

>> Run. A run.

00:58:37

>> Yeah, run. I ran this morning cuz it

00:58:40

calms me down.

00:58:42

>> I just can't do it anymore. I hike

00:58:43

though.

00:58:43

>> Oh, hike. Well, hiking is so good.

00:58:45

>> It has to go up a hill though.

00:58:46

>> That's amazing.

00:58:47

>> So, you start out with a run.

00:58:48

>> Running and I will listen to a good

00:58:50

podcast or or interview or you know the

00:58:54

daily or NPR or books on tape. So, I

00:58:58

I'll do that while I'm running.

00:58:59

>> Okay.

00:59:00

>> And then, um I also like swimming. So, I

00:59:03

I a good day would be to swim for 1

00:59:05

hour.

00:59:06

>> Wow. Yes. You're my hero. That's what I

00:59:08

want to do.

00:59:09

>> It makes me feel so happy. I've been

00:59:10

starting to to attempt to do it cuz they

00:59:12

have a little pool at this one house we

00:59:14

have.

00:59:14

>> Oh, that's so nice.

00:59:15

>> So, how do you So, you where do you go?

00:59:16

Where do you swim?

00:59:17

>> I swim. We have a pool in our backyard.

00:59:19

>> So, it's like 40 ft or 30 ft. 40 ft.

00:59:22

>> Um, I'm not sure. Yeah, maybe.

00:59:23

>> So, you get you go back and forth. Are

00:59:25

you switching strokes? You work on

00:59:26

those.

00:59:27

>> I just do the breast stroke the whole

00:59:28

time. And I also listen to interviews

00:59:30

when I'm swimming.

00:59:31

>> Do you get your hair wet?

00:59:32

>> So, how do you do that?

00:59:33

>> I just not getting electrocuted.

00:59:35

>> I just have a speaker. I don't have the

00:59:36

ear pods, but I just have a speaker. So

00:59:38

I'm really like, you know,

00:59:39

>> or you're kind of like this and it's on

00:59:40

the side of the pool. So you come out,

00:59:42

what gets you more

00:59:44

>> just zen down, the run or the swim or is

00:59:46

it just the two together?

00:59:48

>> That's a really good question. I would

00:59:49

say what do you think?

00:59:51

>> I I'm just coming on to the idea of

00:59:53

swimming. So I feel like especially if

00:59:55

it's deprivation where you have earplugs

00:59:57

and it's like people come out of the

00:59:58

pool like whoa. Yeah.

01:00:00

>> In my olden times, my other times I

01:00:02

think hard cardiovascular breaking a

01:00:04

sweat.

01:00:04

>> Yeah.

01:00:05

>> But basically, let's put it this way.

01:00:06

your perfect day. It's 10:00 a.m. and

01:00:08

you're basically blasted in a good way.

01:00:11

>> Exactly.

01:00:12

>> After your run and you're out, so you're

01:00:14

just like this and now what do you do?

01:00:16

>> Exactly. Then I guess if it's like a

01:00:18

perfect day, too, I might go to a steam

01:00:20

get a nice steam or sauna and it makes

01:00:23

me so relaxed and I might bring

01:00:25

>> super relaxed.

01:00:26

>> Well, you're asking like a really fun

01:00:27

day. This is like this would be while my

01:00:30

kids are in school if I have a little

01:00:32

bit of free time.

01:00:32

>> The decks are clear. Then I would maybe

01:00:35

I I mean if it's a dream day, maybe I

01:00:37

would I I mean I haven't done this for a

01:00:39

while, but I would love to go to a

01:00:41

pretty park in nature and sit and do

01:00:43

creative visualization. If you're asking

01:00:44

for a dream day,

01:00:45

>> like a meditative

01:00:47

>> meditative kind of writing,

01:00:49

you know, some part of these things you

01:00:50

do all the time, but now it's loaded

01:00:52

into one day.

01:00:53

>> Yeah. Loaded into one day. But then um

01:00:55

let's see what you go out to dinner with

01:00:57

your husband.

01:00:58

>> Oh my god. Well, that's later. say after

01:00:59

I pick up the kids.

01:01:00

>> Um my husband likes to stay in and cook.

01:01:03

So I don't but but I love going out for

01:01:05

dinner with friends, but he likes to

01:01:06

cook cook dinner and stay in. And of

01:01:09

course my ideal my favorite thing is

01:01:11

just spending time with my children. So

01:01:13

>> they're 17 and 18 and I I'm going to

01:01:16

pick my son up today at school and my

01:01:18

daughter and I are going to get

01:01:19

acupuncture today. So I like stuff like

01:01:21

that, you know, stuff that makes your

01:01:23

body feel good.

01:01:23

>> Yeah. Do everything to make you feel

01:01:24

better. Do you watch any entertain? Do

01:01:27

you watch movies? You watch dramas when

01:01:28

you

01:01:29

>> Yes. I just finished watching the

01:01:30

Dropout Mike Show Walter show with

01:01:31

Amanda Seafed. I loved it. That was so

01:01:34

good. And my husband and I love

01:01:35

documentaries.

01:01:37

>> We're watching um Love on the Spectrum

01:01:39

right now on Netflix.

01:01:41

>> Watching that some high fives in the

01:01:43

room. Love on the Spectrum.

01:01:45

>> Just watch Pam and Tommy. Um was it Did

01:01:48

you watch it? Was so funny.

01:01:49

>> Tommy's sons bought my old house in

01:01:52

Nino.

01:01:53

>> Really? I just saw a picture of that.

01:01:55

Oh, and um

01:01:56

>> they're in my recording studio and in my

01:01:58

pool.

01:01:58

>> Oh my god.

01:01:59

>> But I'm happy for them. Go ahead.

01:02:02

>> And um yeah, but no, yeah, my husband

01:02:04

and I love documentaries. That's our

01:02:05

favorite.

01:02:06

>> Yeah. So, watching TV with your husband,

01:02:08

hanging with your kids,

01:02:09

>> hanging with my kids, jacuzzi,

01:02:11

meditation, park, relaxing,

01:02:14

steam.

01:02:15

>> Okay, I like that answer. That's I'm

01:02:18

relaxed just hearing that.

01:02:19

>> Oh, good. And just hanging out in the

01:02:21

house is so fun with my kids. There's

01:02:23

nothing that makes me happier than just

01:02:25

having a free day where you could just

01:02:27

stay stay in your house and do whatever

01:02:29

you want. I love that.

01:02:30

>> Yeah, I I I love being a dad. I love

01:02:32

love that hanging out with my kids.

01:02:34

>> Is it the It's the greatest. Yeah, me

01:02:35

too. It's my

01:02:36

>> Well, Molly Shannon is her tell me your

01:02:39

book. It's called Hello Molly.

01:02:40

>> Yes.

01:02:41

>> A great title.

01:02:42

>> Yeah,

01:02:42

>> cuz it's just you can never forget it.

01:02:44

>> I love Molly. I don't think it's so

01:02:46

clean. It's not like my journey to the

01:02:48

thing. What was the name of your book,

01:02:49

David? It was

01:02:50

>> stupid. It's not Hello, Molly. I'll say

01:02:52

it was Mine's harder to do.

01:02:54

>> What was it called?

01:02:55

>> I think it was called

01:02:57

>> Oh, one of them was called This is a

01:02:58

good one. A Polaroid guy in a Snapchat

01:03:01

world.

01:03:02

>> But guy in a Snapchat

01:03:06

Snapchat

01:03:06

>> cuz I talk about how the difference is

01:03:08

when I grew up. Now it is now

01:03:09

everything's different.

01:03:10

>> I like that title. So I like it. But

01:03:12

hello Molly. So clean. Boom. And it's

01:03:15

off the title.

01:03:15

>> You sing it. That's what's good.

01:03:16

>> And you're also I love that for you.

01:03:19

She's won awards. She you've worked

01:03:20

consistently ever since you left SNL. It

01:03:23

seems like you're always doing stuff

01:03:24

with Will and you they're hiring you for

01:03:27

this and that. Now you're in this show.

01:03:29

>> Life is good.

01:03:30

>> You're healthy. You can run.

01:03:33

>> You can swim. We learned.

01:03:34

>> Yes.

01:03:35

>> Stroke only.

01:03:36

>> Well, you don't you do you don't get

01:03:37

your hair wet. That's what we we people

01:03:39

want to know.

01:03:39

>> If I have a I know. I like that that

01:03:41

you're asking, David. If it's a nice

01:03:43

blowout, I would probably toss it up cuz

01:03:44

I wouldn't want to ruin it. And then

01:03:46

you're going above the water and just a

01:03:48

very meditative back and forth.

01:03:51

>> Yes. With with some good reading

01:03:52

material. Maybe I would listen to listen

01:03:54

to a New Yorker article on autumn the

01:03:56

hour.

01:03:58

>> I love that about modern digital

01:03:59

technology. You just you're driving and

01:04:02

you can listen to World War II books and

01:04:04

like so Hitler decided it was too late,

01:04:07

you know? I mean, I just can't get

01:04:09

enough of that stuff.

01:04:11

>> That is that right, Dana?

01:04:12

>> Oh, I love documentaries, too. I I kind

01:04:14

of like everything. I'm if wife wants to

01:04:16

watch The Crown, I love The Crown and I

01:04:18

like 2001. I see that every year when

01:04:20

she's not around, you know. So, I like I

01:04:23

like all of it, but I mostly like dramas

01:04:25

and adventures and stuff.

01:04:27

>> Yeah.

01:04:28

>> Did you see the original Staircase

01:04:30

documentary? It's on Netflix now. That's

01:04:32

excellent.

01:04:32

>> About the guy who maybe pushed his wife

01:04:35

down the stairs.

01:04:36

>> Yes.

01:04:36

>> That's a good one.

01:04:37

>> You know what those things If you want

01:04:38

to look for dysfunction, Cowills.

01:04:41

>> Ooh. about a 60s pop band, family band.

01:04:44

It's about their dysfunctional family.

01:04:46

Very reminiscent of mine in some ways,

01:04:49

but it's also their fame and their

01:04:50

trajectory. The Cow Cells, I think it's

01:04:52

called, on Netflix.

01:04:53

>> Oh, that sounds good.

01:04:54

>> Ted Sarandis' um cousin. So, I also

01:04:58

support Netflix on this podcast.

01:05:02

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