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Drew Barrymore.
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>> Drew Drew Barrymore.
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>> Universally loved.
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>> Very sweet. Um, and I've known her since
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the old days right around wedding
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singers when I met her and we talk about
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that and I saw her out the other night
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and I never see her. She's one of the
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ones I just never see. And she was
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>> perfectly sweet and lovely as you would
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think.
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Yeah, she was when I saw her when we
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were vetting our friend Adam Sandler at
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the Kennedy Center honor recently,
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>> right?
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>> I just ran into her and um I'd seen some
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of her show and we'd had her on our
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podcast and I said, "You're really
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really good at this." And she just
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paused and she's very sincere and her
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shoulders dropped and she said, "Really?
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You think so?"
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>> She's very vulnerable and sweet. Uh and
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uh we enjoy talking to her. one of our
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favorite podcasts. She's uh easy to talk
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to and goes anywhere you want her to go
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to. So, I think this is a fun one.
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>> Here, here she is. Drew Barmore.
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>> Bill her has kind of a his voice has a
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treble softness to it, but then when he
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did Daniel de Lewis, it just went
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incredibly deep. So his range is like
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really kind of interesting cuz his
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talking voice is very sort of soft,
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>> you know, up here and we had a great
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time and then he's like, "But I
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>> I like that." I try to do Daniel Lewis
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and you guys both do it and I forgot.
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>> I used to do it like crazy. I was his
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was so great. Um, I feel like we, you
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know, at some point we'll just tell I I
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I was going to say, yeah, that if they
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said you were the best ever, I wouldn't
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slug him in the face, but there's 50
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people that could be mentioned. You
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know, there's it's just people love to
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have lists.
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>> Yeah.
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>> I don't want Maya Rudolph to go, what's
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what's going on?
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>> But he's definitely up there.
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>> Well, he just um it's kind of like Will
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Forte. Hey, that middle knots that early
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to 2010 or 12, whatever.
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>> Knots is the grossest.
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>> I know. Had a lot of It had a a lot of
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talent. That's why I listed all of them
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and I forgot my Rudolph. There's a lot
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of talent.
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>> Where's that lady?
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>> OH MY GOD, YOU GUYS. I'VE BEEN HERE the
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whole time screaming. It was on [ __ ]
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mute.
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>> I didn't want to interrupt you. I was
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like, "Oh, I guess they're going and
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riffing. I'll just sit here."
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>> You thought we were ignoring you the
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whole time on the wall. I was I was
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listening in. You were talking about
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Maya Rudolph and the knots or thes or
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whatever we're calling them. And I
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literally was like, "Oh, I guess when
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they're ready, they'll invite me in."
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But this these are like the high class
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problems of our current world. Um I
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you're on mute. I can't see. Your screen
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is off. This is the new verbiage for us.
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But I actually have been sitting here
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waiting um to jump into the double
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dutch. Um, literally I'm so excited that
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you guys would have me on your show.
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>> Are you crazy?
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>> I love both of you so much. I'm in. I'm
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double dutching with you right now and
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I'm loving.
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>> My wife said, "Oh, Drew's so sweet.
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She's so fun. I have so much energy."
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And I go, "You think?" I don't know.
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I'll tell you what happens. But already
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you're exactly what she promised.
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>> She's Well, she's so kind and she's
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definitely right about the energy part.
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I'm a lot. I'm like a lab Labrador in
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heat.
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>> I like the heat.
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>> Yeah, I've heard people say that. Yeah,
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>> I am. I But like with Yeah.
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>> Well, that was my
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>> Go ahead.
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>> No, go ahead. I'm a Labrador in heat.
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What
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>> then I when I'm happy, when I'm intense,
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I think I'm a whole other metaphor. But
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when I'm happy, I'm like a Labrador in
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heat panting, probably trying to grab
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your leg, you know.
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>> Interesting. Huh. Well, I read I read um
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some things about you last night and it
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was truly impressive and exhausting how
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much you packed in. So I I mean my god
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>> Labrador and Heat. I'm going and how
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young you are from where I'm perched.
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It's like damn you got you where does
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that come from? Where does the where's
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the motor to do all this and then become
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a producer and now this and I don't
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know. I can't even
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>> uh
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>> any maybe a hard question to ask. It's
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more of an Oprah question or Larry King.
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>> I love it. I I'm like I did not expect
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the how do you do it question that's
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traditionally a woman towoman.
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>> Oh well. Yes. And a mom working mom.
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Yeah.
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>> Yeah. I like like that you guys are
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asking it because
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>> Yeah. We're real thinkers, Drew.
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>> Well, we love we love women basically.
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>> I and I love and I love funny men. So,
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this is a match made in heaven.
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Um,
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>> a win-win.
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>> I I I do it by burning the candle at
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both ends. Uh, I actually I'm here
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editing our next issue of a magazine um
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that we're making,
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>> of course.
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>> And I um I I think about it's weird a
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lot people will ask that question and I
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think I've been so passive about my
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answer because my humility wants to go,
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"No, no, no, I don't do that much. Let
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let me turn it back to you.
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>> Yes.
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>> Um and um lately I've been for this
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magazine um and trying to think of uh
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some content for it. I've been looking
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at the how and the we not the how and
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the eye, but I think that it's really
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messy. And I was brought up sort of we
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all lived in that world where we would
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see those articles where people were
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like 8 a.m. I drink my coffee and I do
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this. Okay,
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>> Mark Wahberg 2 a.m.
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>> 10:30 I do this, you know. And I I never
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lived that life and it seemed so type A
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and unattainable.
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And I was more the you never know where
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the day is going to take you whimsical
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or I will burn myself to a crisp and
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then I'll find that pocket of rest and
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wellness somewhere else. Uh, so I don't
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I don't know how anyone does it and if
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they do it in an organized fashion, they
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have my deepest respect. And if they
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feel like it all feels like putting out
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fires and kind of burning yourself out
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and it's all like a higgledy piggledy
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mess and it's super comedic and there
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are chickens running through the frame
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and like rando funny [ __ ] is going on.
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that feels so true
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>> um to our to my experience and um I
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would never preach to anyone that I have
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it together or that I'm a blueprint. I
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am just a work in progress and so far
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I'm I'm I'm shocked uh in some ways that
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like I am a relatively healthy person
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because I feel like I don't live a very
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healthy lifestyle.
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>> Geez. And that's been Drew Barammore
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today. Uh, we appreciate that. Amazing.
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I go ahead. I have a question.
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>> No one argues that she's busy. Her IMDb
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looks like a CVS receipt.
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>> And And if you could see her zoom, it's
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like it looks like house and garden. Me
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and Dana look like we're in a bunker in
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Kabool.
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>> Yeah, we're her place looks gorgeous. It
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looks like
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>> she looks fresh as a daisy.
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>> Yeah, fresh as a daisy. Gorgeous. And
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>> only because I have hair and makeup
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because I'm at the show. And by the way,
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on my headstone will for sure say death
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by inspo because I'll have inspired
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myself into the grave. Like I can't even
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look at a woman's shoe without going,
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"Do you mind if I take a quick picture
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of that?" Because that color tone would
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just be so great for the packaging on
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the next thing I'm making. Like it's I I
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cannot I can't stop. And sometimes I
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feel like I wish I could just like have
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like quick temporary,
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you know, I I think that's probably why
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I drank so much back in, you know, most
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of my life. What do you mean? You had a
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problem.
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>> Just shut it down. I was like, just shut
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up,
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>> dude. At seven, you were like, I can't
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take it anymore,
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>> dude. You know what? Yeah.
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>> Yeah. At seven, I was paying the rent.
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And that's a lot of stress.
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>> That that Yeah. Fairly uncommon thing
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for a human being in America to be uh
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paying the rent at seven.
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>> Drew, I can relate. Dana, I didn't tell
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you this. I was a child star, too. I
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when I was uh my dad was in advertising.
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He was like a madman type of guy. And
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when I was
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>> I was five, I was pretty cute. I had a
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good run from five to eight. So when I
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was five and my brother
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my my dad goes, "Why don't you be in
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this like Taco Bell commercial that
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we're filming?" Cuz they were part of
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it. He goes, "They need some kids. We'll
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throw you in. We'll give you 10 bucks."
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And I was like, "Holy shit." So they
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they put 10 $1 bills out for me on my
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desk. I probably got a thousand, but
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they kept it, you know. And they go,
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"Here's your 10." And then I And then
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they took nine of it. And I go, "So you
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already took a cut, I'm sure, before
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behind before I saw it." Then I get 10.
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And then you go, "We'll hold it." And I
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go, "Wait, what's going on?" And then I
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had a dollar left. Like they go, "Go
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nuts."
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>> You guys Drew's like, "I hear that."
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>> I was still I didn't put down my waiters
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apron till 23 and a half. You guys start
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right out of kindergarten. Like what a
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start.
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>> Uh, can I ask you a question, Drew?
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because you kind of thought talked about
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like Reese Witherspoon, okay, she's
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another
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>> like how did she do all that and I heard
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her kind of own it like in the way men
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can sort of own it like okay I get out
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of my way I can do anything basically do
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you is it difficult for you to have that
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gear because people would say I'm nice
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they say you're nice and but you know do
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where do you have that part of you that
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has a ego like can kind of give yourself
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give yourself a pat on the back.
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>> I don't.
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>> So that's why you just keep going.
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>> Yeah. And I hate those. And I know
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Reese. Um so I I you know, she's just
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incredible that she is a good like hot
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question mark of how the hell does she
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do it? Um I um I I feel like I had uh so
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much opportunity because of starting as
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a kid that the gender effect never
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>> um had me. It never had my attention. It
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was squandered early because I started
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working as a baby and kept working. So,
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I never had the um anything other than I
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I could do all these things and they're
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my opportunities to screw up or make
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something of
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>> and um there were men and women giving
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me those opportunities. Um I just wrote
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the forward to the new ET book because
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it's the 40th anniversary and I was
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talking about Kathleen Kennedy and
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Melissa Mat. You know, I I saw women at
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work. Um, so, uh, I I just really didn't
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have that I need to be aggressive or act
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like a man to get anything done. I
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always felt permission to check in with
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my idols, the Go-Os and Pippy
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Longtocking, who were all girl all the
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time, but they did everything that boys
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did. And it became my ethos on making
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Charlie's Angels was why do women have
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to pretend to be men in order to look
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strong and capable because the truth is
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in my world if I was kicking butt with
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my girlfriends we would totally be
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talking about last night's date while
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taking the bad guy down. And bad guy
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could be again bad guy or bad girl. I've
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never been affected. Luckily, I've not
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had the unfortunate
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anenu treatment of being held back or as
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I started a production company at 19 and
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we was really in the era of the
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powersuit woman, I was like intimidated
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by that and just felt like screw it. I'm
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going to be a girl with my corduroys and
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my transport backpacks and the work is
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going to speak for me and no man has
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ever kept me down. They've only helped
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give me opportunities as women have. And
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I'm just I'm a girl. And I I think the
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one thing that's always stuck out for me
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about men first and foremost was that
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like a lot of my comedy influence when I
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was young came from men.
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>> There weren't a ton of female comedians.
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>> Um there's so many more now. I feel like
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the playing field is so much more equal.
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Um, so I identified men a lot with funny
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and that was a good thing. I didn't
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think of men as my bosses or anyone who
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was going to hold me back or I had to be
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like them. I've had fortunate liberation
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my entire life like that.
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>> And I hate boss [ __ ] I hate it. Boss
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lady, it sounds like you're hanging a
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pair of balls on you um with a
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bitterness and I don't like that cuz I
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don't have one bitter bone in my body.
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However, if people have to put, you
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know, metaphorical balls on or a cape or
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do any mechanism to empower themselves
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that I stand back and do not judge
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because everybody has their process of
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how they get to bravery. Mhm.
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>> She has the best answers.
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>> Oh my god.
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>> They're unreal.
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>> Oh, David Spade, I love you so much.
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>> I mean, my god. Uh, we have to talk
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about SNL. By the way, I back to ET to
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have two women that high up in the
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chain.
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>> Must have been nice back then. And they
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must have had an even keel about them
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because you look up to them and you
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don't see them. I mean there is equal up
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there with everybody that are running a
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huge huge movie. That's good. That's a
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good influence early on.
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>> And Stephen Spielberg was flanked by
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these two women, Frank Marshall was
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there, but
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>> Kathleen Kennedy and Melissa Mat and
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>> uh so
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>> Melissa wrote it just for our viewers.
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>> Melissa wrote it. She was married to
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Harrison Ford at the time.
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>> Um they were very close. Uh they had the
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script for years. They were making the
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Indiana Jones movies. They were all a
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tight-knit group. And um she had this
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script. It was called A Boy's Life. And
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um and yeah,
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>> that's what ET was called.
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>> Yeah, it wasn't called ET until after
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the film was made. I guess it maybe in
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marketing. I'd have to ask.
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>> It was called Little Gross Monster for a
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little bit. I heard
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>> cute little alien.
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>> Uh okay, go ahead. So ask Dana, ask her
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a question about SNL. What are you
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doing?
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>> I I know. I'm I'm so I'm so uh I'm a
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little starruck. I'm starruck, too.
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>> I'm fascinated by your life. I I I think
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it's so cool that
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>> I'm starruck by you guys. I mean,
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literally, you're about to bring up SNL.
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And I I don't know where your question's
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going to go, but boy, did that show
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change my life in so many ways. Mhm.
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>> Uh but in no way did I participate the
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way that you guys have.
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>> For people who don't know it, you've
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hosted six times, which is a record for
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>> I'm tied. I'm tied right now. I think
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>> with Candace Bergen or No.
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>> Nope. She's five. Uh, I think I'm tied
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with ScarJoe, who I really pretty sure
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is going to beat me because
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>> she's great on Oh, yeah. She's married
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to Colin.
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>> She's got a fast track. We're going to
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book her for three a year.
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>> Oh,
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>> yeah. She makes, you know, big movies
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that are going to, you know, I I I'm
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sure she's going to beat me and I love
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her so much and we just did the show
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together. Um, and if anyone's going to
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beat it, but here's a record I do hold
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that I I think I will be. It will be
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bittersweet when it happens. Um, I am
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still the youngest
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>> host in 1982 at 7 years old.
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>> Yes.
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>> And that one's going to hurt.
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>> That's going to be a tough one. That's
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in really no danger. I don't know.
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Unless
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>> I wonder how has it not been taken? How
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the hell has that not happened?
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>> Well, cuz it's child abuse.
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>> Hey kid, you're going to I can't even
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handle I was crying when I hosted and
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I'd done 200 shows. It's like you go
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back there and you're like, wait, what
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do I do? And the band's playing. It's
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terrifying.
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>> I'm 47 and I can't even. But did the Was
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the monkey a surprise?
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>> Yes. Yes. A total surprise.
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>> It was a nonsequ for David. Yeah. Go
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ahead. explain that because that
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>> Jim Kasarinsky
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um who I had just an adorable crush on.
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I just thought he was the greatest thing
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since sliced bread.
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>> Um they didn't want me to have to deal
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with an opening monologue. Um and they
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sort of addressed that in the monologue
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and they say instead we're going to do a
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Q&A with Tim um and Drew. Uh weird to
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say your name. And um so he asked me
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questions on little index cards and I
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>> adorable.
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>> And then at the end he says, "We have a
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surprise for you." And they bring out
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this monkey. I
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>> chimpanzee. Yeah.
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>> I don't know what the point of it was
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other than to
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>> Well, your reaction
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>> cutest thing and the most delightful
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surprise for anyone, let alone a
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seven-year-old girl.
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I remember so many different emotions.
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Uh Stephen Spielberg came and he is very
00:18:34
much a probably the only father figure
00:18:36
I've really had in my life and he was
00:18:38
very parental and uh on the show night
00:18:41
he brought Robin Williams which scared
00:18:43
me to death because I was so
00:18:46
obsessed with Robin Williams and
00:18:49
>> um that felt very intimidating uh to me
00:18:53
and um um
00:18:55
>> who's blabbing?
00:18:56
>> Yeah, somebody's auditioning back there.
00:18:59
>> Sorry. Sorry. Um,
00:19:01
>> tell them you don't want to get spayed
00:19:02
mad. They're all like,
00:19:03
>> "Exactly." Um, so, um,
00:19:06
>> Robin Williams.
00:19:07
>> So, Robin Williams. Um, and it was such
00:19:10
a weird mixed bag because the there I
00:19:14
was in the opening scene, which I didn't
00:19:16
realize until way later how hard it is
00:19:18
to get in the scene before the credits.
00:19:22
Um, like I spent my young adulthood
00:19:25
fighting to get in that opening scene
00:19:27
and it's really the cold open and I was
00:19:30
in it and they all circle around me and
00:19:33
I'm sad about something and they are
00:19:36
rallying me up and then they said, you
00:19:38
know, would you like a glass of milk?
00:19:41
And I remember my line was milk. I'm a
00:19:44
Barrymore. Uh, I want to drink and make
00:19:48
it a double.
00:19:50
And um
00:19:51
>> seven years old.
00:19:52
>> Seven.
00:19:54
>> Boy, little did I know how true that
00:19:57
would end up being.
00:19:57
>> You were like, "All kidding aside, make
00:19:58
it a double."
00:19:59
>> Was there was there a family history of
00:20:01
of that at all or
00:20:02
>> Oh my god. I mean, literally, they all
00:20:05
died of consumption. Literally, my
00:20:08
grandfather died of consumption. Um, I
00:20:11
think Ethel and Lionol were a bit more
00:20:14
put together, but yeah, total hedonists
00:20:16
and um and artists um and a long line of
00:20:21
alcoholism and uh and yeah, I So,
00:20:25
>> it's highly genetic. Obviously,
00:20:27
>> it is highly genetic, but I'm going to
00:20:29
be the one who breaks that in our chain.
00:20:32
>> Break it.
00:20:32
>> Yeah.
00:20:33
>> I haven't I haven't had a drink in
00:20:34
almost three years, and um it's it's a
00:20:38
really good feeling. What's your happy
00:20:40
place? How do you calm down then? Do you
00:20:42
meditate? Do you take a bath? Do you run
00:20:44
around the block?
00:20:45
>> How do you calm that that thinking brain
00:20:49
without alcohol?
00:20:51
>> Um,
00:20:52
>> yeah. And I'm not sober. I don't work a
00:20:54
program. It's just I realized my
00:20:57
relationship with alcohol was the most
00:21:00
toxic one in my life. And one I'd been
00:21:02
trying to master since I was nine years
00:21:04
old and did start drinking. Um, and that
00:21:09
yeah, I had to find a way uh I had to
00:21:12
find a different way to live and I can
00:21:15
sort of trace every negative thing back
00:21:17
in my life. And there's probably alcohol
00:21:20
dancing in there somewhere. Um, and it's
00:21:23
like the best breakup I've ever had in
00:21:25
my life. And it's so confident and
00:21:27
quiet. And I have a bar in my house. I
00:21:30
serve people drinks. I have no hang-ups
00:21:33
about it. I'm just like so psyched at
00:21:36
this choice to finally cut this like
00:21:38
cancer out of my life. It's something
00:21:41
excuse me.
00:21:41
>> Well, you feel better, too. I mean,
00:21:42
there's a lot of positives if you can
00:21:44
get through it. It's a lot of
00:21:46
>> energy upside. And so, how did you
00:21:48
manage all these movies and this massive
00:21:51
career while h embibing? Was it sort of
00:21:54
binge drinking or would you how did you
00:21:56
>> people look the other way? Um, I think
00:21:59
you know when you do burn the candle at
00:22:02
both ends and you are prolific, that's
00:22:03
part of the fooling yourself like but
00:22:06
I'm doing all this work so I'm
00:22:07
functioning.
00:22:09
>> Yeah.
00:22:09
>> Um, and that was definitely my
00:22:11
justification.
00:22:13
But I was more of like when I partied I
00:22:16
was the crazy one. Um, like I can think
00:22:18
of another SNL alum, Chris Katan, whose
00:22:21
nickname and I for each other is
00:22:22
rooftops cuz we would get wasted and
00:22:24
jump off my roof into the pool. Um, and
00:22:28
I had a lot of fun with it. And
00:22:31
>> there there
00:22:33
it it wasn't all bad. Um, and then I
00:22:36
think when kids came into my life, I
00:22:39
realized that this was
00:22:40
>> no longer sustainable and I made a hard
00:22:43
choice and it's the best one I've ever
00:22:44
made. When it was just me and my life, I
00:22:46
guess I didn't matter to myself enough
00:22:49
to find the balance. my kids mattered
00:22:52
more to me than I did and I found the
00:22:55
balance and it didn't come easy and it
00:22:57
wasn't pretty and we all wish we had
00:23:00
done things sooner but I'm here and I'm
00:23:02
so happy to be here and that in itself I
00:23:06
think has replaced a ton of meditation
00:23:09
and jogging and newagy stuff and
00:23:11
self-help and self-care just being uh a
00:23:16
person who hasn't corroded with guilt
00:23:18
and dysfunction and blame. Like I had a
00:23:22
bad girl narrative growing up. So every
00:23:24
time I did something wrong, I went
00:23:26
straight back to, "Well, you're a bad
00:23:27
girl, so what the [ __ ] else do you
00:23:29
think? It's you. You're the bad girl."
00:23:32
>> And if it's kind of your your thing,
00:23:34
like she's the drinker and the fun party
00:23:35
girl. Then you're like, it's already
00:23:37
sort of factored in, so no one's going
00:23:40
to get mad. That's kind of what they
00:23:41
want.
00:23:42
>> 100%. I'm the good time girl. Um, and I
00:23:45
did have a good time. I wasn't willing
00:23:47
to give it up for a long time. I was
00:23:50
balancing it in a way where I was
00:23:53
working my ass off. I work hard. I
00:23:56
played hard and that was okay for 30
00:23:59
years. And then I I I think growing up
00:24:04
is an overrated. I'm totally into it. I
00:24:07
really um I I am I'm I feel so lucky to
00:24:11
have arrived at a more peaceful ser
00:24:15
place. I'm 47 and I don't know if it I
00:24:19
just only know my own journey. I started
00:24:22
so much younger than other people in in
00:24:24
many ways, but I think a lot of my
00:24:26
wisdom came later. Um, and that's okay.
00:24:30
I don't even ask people what their age
00:24:32
is because I don't give a [ __ ] I don't
00:24:33
think it's going to tell me everything
00:24:35
about you. You're going to tell me. If I
00:24:38
have to ask people what their age is,
00:24:40
I'll literally say, "What's your
00:24:41
number?" because it's not indicative of
00:24:45
your journey. There are people who have
00:24:48
clawed their way through life at such a
00:24:49
young age and been dealt such strange
00:24:52
cards. And there are people who just
00:24:54
can't seem to mature no matter how hard
00:24:57
everyone around them is trying. They
00:24:59
won't.
00:25:01
>> Did you say David? No.
00:25:03
>> That was a joke. Look at him in his
00:25:04
mansion. He's very He's very successful.
00:25:08
But
00:25:09
>> listen, I was when I when I my when I
00:25:12
was 9 years old, my mom would say,
00:25:14
"You're not drinking till you're nine."
00:25:15
Like Drew Baron.
00:25:17
>> And I go, "Right. That's a weird We had
00:25:19
a tough rule." Um, no. I've got my [ __ ]
00:25:22
together, Drew. Um, no, I don't.
00:25:24
>> Do you?
00:25:25
>> Drew, no. We're We're about you.
00:25:29
>> We're damaged little clowns, you know.
00:25:31
>> Yeah, we're little clowns.
00:25:33
It was a it was an interesting lesson
00:25:35
growing up being such a lover of male
00:25:37
comedians. Um, you know, so many wake-up
00:25:41
calls on who
00:25:43
used the sort of torture as an excuse
00:25:46
to, you know, behave a certain way or be
00:25:51
kind of an intense person or, you know,
00:25:54
talking to me or Dana
00:25:55
>> and those who didn't, you know, and
00:25:58
>> I would definitely gravitate towards the
00:26:00
ones who didn't. But I it I and my mom,
00:26:04
by the way, when I was a kid, not only
00:26:07
did I get to do SNL at 7 years old, but
00:26:11
my mom worked as a waitress in the
00:26:13
comedy store. So, I now have a character
00:26:17
that I do for the digital on our show
00:26:20
named Mity Banana Mo, and it's all
00:26:22
dedicated to Mitsy Shaw. Really, she's
00:26:25
the inspiration for it. And I get to ask
00:26:27
questions that I can't get away with on
00:26:29
daytime television. And I got a wig and
00:26:32
a look and a whole thing. And I, you
00:26:35
know,
00:26:35
>> that's great.
00:26:36
>> Sounds so funny coming out of you.
00:26:38
>> Do you have a lot of Mitsy stories? Cuz
00:26:40
I, we have stories about Mitsy. You
00:26:42
know,
00:26:42
>> Polly sure was my babysitter.
00:26:45
>> Oh, yes.
00:26:47
>> Sorry. Was everything okay?
00:26:50
>> I I think so. Him and Don Him and
00:26:54
Donovan Leech used to like look after me
00:26:56
sometimes. like our parents didn't I
00:26:59
mean my mom is an extreme case and you
00:27:02
know but like a lot of people were in
00:27:05
that time like we did not parent back
00:27:08
then the way we do now and
00:27:11
>> it's crazy the scrutiny and the
00:27:13
helicopter parenting and the guilt and
00:27:15
the books and the rights and the wrongs
00:27:17
and the dos and the don'ts. Yeah. My mom
00:27:19
just left me with Polly and Donovan uh
00:27:21
while she and Mitsy were off at work. It
00:27:24
it was fun. I I loved it. And my mom
00:27:28
gave me such a rich history on who each
00:27:31
and every comedian was. Um, and what
00:27:36
their body of work was and what Steve
00:27:38
Martin meant and what Robin Williams
00:27:40
meant and who these people that came and
00:27:43
did a set that night or here's the
00:27:44
person up and coming.
00:27:46
>> It's very in my DNA. And so for me
00:27:50
getting on this podcast with you guys,
00:27:52
like I'm the one freaking out. I don't
00:27:54
know what so much of my life would be
00:27:57
without the things that you both have
00:27:59
put into the world. And comedy is a very
00:28:02
healing thing. I call it medicine
00:28:05
always. And I've been trained like a
00:28:07
little seal to appreciate and understand
00:28:11
the power of when someone makes you
00:28:14
laugh, they take away your pain and
00:28:17
stress. They give you a respit from your
00:28:20
trauma and your damage and your worries
00:28:24
and the things you got to do and the
00:28:26
things that have affected you. You are
00:28:28
liberated and free in that moment
00:28:32
>> because you your chemistry changes.
00:28:34
>> You can't laugh and worry at the same
00:28:36
time.
00:28:37
>> I I mean, and by the way, the more
00:28:40
you're worried, I hope the more you are
00:28:42
laughing because it's the only way
00:28:44
you're going to survive it. Well, this
00:28:46
leads me to a question because uh you're
00:28:48
given a background what comedy meant to
00:28:50
you and and learning this in real time
00:28:53
with you. Um what does it mean to have
00:28:56
hosted SNL for you? Cuz then you go into
00:28:59
America's comedy palace basically and
00:29:03
you host it six times. I mean, what does
00:29:04
that mean to you? And and and how
00:29:06
thrilling was it for you to then be part
00:29:08
of it after the age of seven and then
00:29:11
you're an adult, mature, funny person on
00:29:14
that show? Why does it what does it what
00:29:16
is it? I don't know. You have six
00:29:18
minutes to answer that question.
00:29:20
>> I I really feel like um that show is an
00:29:27
institution
00:29:29
and it's a living breathing tree. It's a
00:29:34
giving tree that new leaves come out of
00:29:39
its branches and these leaves are these
00:29:42
people, these artists. Such good answers
00:29:45
so far.
00:29:45
>> Yeah.
00:29:46
>> And so poetically we you you speak like
00:29:49
a poet through
00:29:50
>> Yeah. It's unreal.
00:29:51
>> Have you written a book of poems? You
00:29:52
have, haven't you? I don't I think
00:29:54
>> I Yeah, I do write poetry. I love
00:29:56
poetry. I read
00:29:57
>> I read a lot of poetry growing up. Um I
00:30:02
and we get to bask in the shade and the
00:30:05
light of that tree. And it's like
00:30:10
it's it formed me so much as a human
00:30:13
being. And I'm happy to say whether it's
00:30:16
successful or not, I don't know. I'm not
00:30:18
objective about myself. Um I never want
00:30:21
to be. Um but
00:30:24
when I was lucky enough to get the show
00:30:26
that I'm doing now,
00:30:28
>> um which is a talk show, it has my name
00:30:30
on it. I actually asked for it to be
00:30:31
named something else. They said that's
00:30:33
not how this works. I said fine.
00:30:35
>> Um Uh,
00:30:38
>> we'll go with a household name.
00:30:40
>> You have a great You have a great name.
00:30:42
>> Yeah, it's a cool name.
00:30:43
>> One syllable and then three syllables.
00:30:45
It's just It goes Drew Barrymore. It's
00:30:48
just a cool name.
00:30:49
>> That Thank you, Dana Carvey. Actually,
00:30:53
>> Dana ends in a sm that ends in a smile.
00:30:57
Um, I think, um,
00:31:00
>> I had never thought of that.
00:31:02
>> Um, it's true. Um, I I leaned in so hard
00:31:09
to my SNL training for this show.
00:31:13
>> Um, and a couple examples are that when
00:31:16
we launched in a pandemic in 2020, it
00:31:19
was a very scary time to find a voice. I
00:31:23
felt like it was
00:31:25
>> um
00:31:26
>> in order to be quiet and be a good
00:31:28
listener and be a student and learn. And
00:31:30
so that was really intimidating.
00:31:33
But I tried to tap into bravery to be
00:31:37
funny and have a show that really
00:31:40
celebrated comedians and go hard on
00:31:43
comedy. Um, it was
00:31:45
>> go hard. I love it.
00:31:46
>> It was scary and it I think it confused
00:31:50
a lot of people. Um,
00:31:53
and especially in that moment like what
00:31:56
the hell is this
00:31:58
>> pandemic? Here she comes again. Yep. and
00:32:01
um the Drew's News segment of the show
00:32:05
from which I fought for since the pilot.
00:32:08
Um I kept trying to explain it to
00:32:10
everybody and um obviously there is this
00:32:15
section of a magazine called The Week
00:32:18
that's called It Wasn't All Bad and it's
00:32:20
just these tiny babysized paragraphs
00:32:23
that are so funny and uplifting and
00:32:25
weird. Um, and then Weekend Update and
00:32:30
then, you know, I just kept saying I
00:32:33
just like Weekend Update to me is is a
00:32:38
drug.
00:32:39
>> I I'm on that feeder. I watch it every
00:32:42
week. I've I've never I never I don't
00:32:45
miss it. I I I
00:32:49
love
00:32:51
finding out information in a funny way.
00:32:55
Um, you could call it satire, you could
00:32:57
call it pop culture, you could call it
00:32:59
comedy, but like that news desk, I had a
00:33:03
picture of Walter Kankite, the weekend
00:33:05
update desk, and like the week magazine.
00:33:09
And
00:33:10
>> it I think everyone was really scared
00:33:12
because they were like, well, that's
00:33:14
very written. And I was like, no, I
00:33:17
know. I'm not going to write it. We're
00:33:19
gonna report stories that give people
00:33:23
hope because there is good news out
00:33:25
there and there are lifeaff affirming
00:33:27
things and there are weird happenings
00:33:29
and interesting findings and we're going
00:33:31
to be an aggregator for that and then we
00:33:33
can do commentary on it.
00:33:36
>> Um I think Chelsea lately honestly was a
00:33:39
really interesting
00:33:40
>> Oh yeah. you know, she she did a format
00:33:42
where they really commented more on like
00:33:44
gossip and pop culture and but it was so
00:33:47
much fun and no one had done that show
00:33:49
>> and she had a panel of comedians and it
00:33:52
was delicious and nobody had done that.
00:33:56
>> Um
00:33:56
>> and you know Drew during your during the
00:33:58
pandemic it's even harder because it's
00:33:59
an uphill battle. Everything on the news
00:34:02
is bad. It was so pessimistic and so
00:34:04
rough that you're fighting through that
00:34:06
clutter. And if anyone would just turn
00:34:07
to the channel and see you, they're
00:34:08
like, give me a breather here for a
00:34:10
second.
00:34:12
>> I didn't know if I would ever be one.
00:34:14
But I knew that I wanted and I thought,
00:34:17
I want to be a bright spot and not a
00:34:19
blind spot. I want you to come here and
00:34:22
not think that I don't understand what's
00:34:24
happening all around us. But there is
00:34:27
beautiful things. There are wonderful
00:34:29
people. There is that good. And if we
00:34:32
have to be reminded in life affirming
00:34:34
ways that this battle is worth it,
00:34:37
great. Then that's what I want to do.
00:34:40
And how do I take us out while not
00:34:44
seeming like I've lost the plot or I'm
00:34:47
not in and aware and civic duty-minded
00:34:51
of everything that is really happening
00:34:53
in reality. And it was the weirdest
00:34:56
seessaw ever to balance. But I would say
00:34:59
that Saturday Night Live has been my
00:35:02
biggest influence
00:35:04
um
00:35:06
in my life.
00:35:07
>> Mhm. Jesus.
00:35:09
>> Uh and now that it I got to do a show
00:35:12
that's not a movie or not a script or
00:35:14
not a romcom, but probably involves a
00:35:17
lot of people from the SNL alum. Um, you
00:35:22
know, you can you can see that love and
00:35:24
that honoring and that adhesive sort of
00:35:28
admiration I have for male comedians
00:35:31
because I've spent so much time, you
00:35:33
know,
00:35:34
>> how about Sandler and Fallon and you did
00:35:36
movies with both those guys? Like, how
00:35:38
crazy.
00:35:39
>> And I I got to be in Wayne's world as
00:35:42
Burgan Kieran for
00:35:44
>> Burgen Kieran. Can we hear a little bit
00:35:46
of Burgen Kiran from Wayne's World too?
00:35:49
By the way, I really feel like that was
00:35:51
the I like I'm I I was worried sweet
00:35:54
like anyone was going to be mad at me.
00:35:56
Like I made a a real joke out of the
00:35:58
accent cuz I didn't really study enough
00:36:00
for it and I didn't I sort of went for
00:36:03
the broad comedy and I was like offend
00:36:06
people with that.
00:36:07
>> Oh god.
00:36:08
>> People's got to stop being offended. But
00:36:10
it was I'm vegan and
00:36:12
>> all I do is Greta Thmberg. I don't know
00:36:15
what country she's from. How dare you?
00:36:17
>> How dare you? That's it. It's just three
00:36:20
words.
00:36:26
>> What is it like to be able to have that?
00:36:30
Like Jimmy Fallon came on the show the
00:36:32
other day and he's married to my
00:36:33
partner. They fell in love on Fever
00:36:35
Pitch. Um so he's like we're family. Um
00:36:38
but we did one episode together here on
00:36:41
this show where we were like let's try
00:36:43
impressions. And
00:36:45
>> like I suck at impressions. Like what's
00:36:48
it like to have that kind of access in
00:36:50
the snap of a finger and be able to do
00:36:53
any voice? Like I have to study and like
00:36:56
take it so seriously that I almost lose
00:36:58
the freedom and the whimsy. I got to
00:37:01
learn it so well that then I can play
00:37:05
cuz I've got it so [ __ ] down that now
00:37:08
I feel liberated and free because I've
00:37:10
held on to it so tightly. What's it like
00:37:12
to just be like, "Ha, here. Play
00:37:16
fingertips access."
00:37:19
>> Well, I I don't know exactly what you're
00:37:22
saying, but I think I've got a bloody
00:37:24
idea about something you're trying to
00:37:28
everyone.
00:37:29
>> Michael Kane, if I had to say it, I
00:37:31
didn't know. Listen, you're tremendous.
00:37:33
Everyone says, "Excuse me." Many people
00:37:35
Drew Barrymore, you your your show's
00:37:37
terrific. It's terrific. Many pe Excuse
00:37:39
me. Many people are saying
00:37:40
>> it's a it's a it's it's all inflection.
00:37:43
>> Yeah.
00:37:43
>> Yeah. And I just have fun with it. I'm
00:37:45
in awe of like there's certain people do
00:37:46
certain impressions and I just love it
00:37:48
and I'm on awe of it. And Jimmy Fallon
00:37:51
his his Neil Young, you know, it's like
00:37:53
insane.
00:37:54
>> His Neil Young is so good.
00:37:56
>> He has so much talent. Uh, you know,
00:37:59
I've talked to people there like he's
00:38:00
with Justin Timberlake and they're doing
00:38:01
they're choreographing something and
00:38:03
they go Jimmy just one time he's got it
00:38:06
and then he can sing and he dances and
00:38:07
he does all these voices and he's such a
00:38:10
great great uh talk show host because
00:38:12
he's he's so such a great audience.
00:38:14
We're all so influenced by that
00:38:17
renaissance variety
00:38:20
>> human
00:38:21
>> um that can pull out of the ether or
00:38:26
have a premeditated uh approach to it or
00:38:30
access to both.
00:38:32
>> Um
00:38:33
>> well, what's one that you learned? You
00:38:34
talked about learning one and really
00:38:36
owning it.
00:38:36
>> Yeah. Do you have a good one? Load it
00:38:37
up.
00:38:38
>> Do you do Chloe Fineman?
00:38:39
>> Sorry, I had to burn.
00:38:41
>> Jesus.
00:38:41
>> Um I'm sorry. That's my favorite thing.
00:38:44
>> Who is that? Awesome.
00:38:45
>> We've done We've done dozens of these.
00:38:47
That's my favorite moment. Thank you,
00:38:49
Drew. That's the most real moment.
00:38:52
>> Thank you. I'm sorry. I'm not
00:38:54
>> Now you're definitely the coolest one.
00:38:57
>> Oh, good. Oh, good. Um I um
00:39:01
>> All right, that one's getting to my
00:39:02
house now. It's just getting to me. O,
00:39:04
>> I uh Let's see. What have I eaten today?
00:39:06
Um
00:39:07
>> chili dog. I can tell you.
00:39:09
>> Um no, just only quinoa. like a quinoa
00:39:13
porridge. It's It's pretty boring.
00:39:15
Boring. Um I
00:39:18
>> uh Oh [ __ ] What was the question?
00:39:20
>> Let's make fun of Sandler for the end.
00:39:22
>> Oh, we have a lot of Sandler questions
00:39:24
at the end.
00:39:25
>> We got a little Let's We got Sandler
00:39:27
questions. We like to clown on him.
00:39:29
>> Um I mean, God, do I just I love him so
00:39:32
much.
00:39:33
>> He doesn't.
00:39:34
>> We got some monster movies with him.
00:39:36
Adams made a lot of great movies, but I
00:39:38
think 51 Dates is like one of his very
00:39:41
very best because I it was such a
00:39:44
complete film and it was emotional at
00:39:46
the end. You know, I don't Didn't you
00:39:47
find that to be an extra special one you
00:39:50
did with him? 50 51 Dates. You've done
00:39:52
three
00:39:52
>> 5 Dates.
00:39:53
>> 51 First Dates
00:39:55
>> or 51. It originally uh another title uh
00:39:59
changed. It was called 51st Kisses. Um,
00:40:02
and I think they thought that was too
00:40:04
girly
00:40:06
>> uh in the marketing
00:40:08
>> dates.
00:40:09
>> Um, like dates is more gender neutral.
00:40:12
Now,
00:40:13
>> this actually became a really big study
00:40:16
for me about men and women. This is
00:40:20
where I really did take on gender. So,
00:40:23
Nan, my partner, had found that script
00:40:26
and it was a drama that took place in
00:40:28
Seattle. And funny enough, she like
00:40:31
wanted Reese Witherspoon to do it. She
00:40:33
was like your own.
00:40:35
>> She was like, "You're busy. I'm gonna I
00:40:37
was I believe in Reese Witherspoon." She
00:40:39
was a total fan. We've all been fans of
00:40:41
hers forever. I've known Reese since I
00:40:42
was 14 years old.
00:40:45
>> Um and so she had me read it at a table
00:40:48
reading and I was like, "Oh my god, this
00:40:49
is the best script ever." And we wanted
00:40:52
to to um get attached to it as producers
00:40:56
at Flower Films. and it disappeared
00:40:59
overnight. Like it just someone gobbled
00:41:02
it up and then her and I tracked it for
00:41:05
the next like I mean years, several
00:41:08
years. It went through different big
00:41:11
directors and big actresses. Um and uh
00:41:16
we just Nan and I were like determined
00:41:18
to track where this script went. And all
00:41:22
of the sudden it finally metriculates
00:41:26
over to none other than Happy Madison.
00:41:29
>> Happy Madison.
00:41:30
>> And that is to anyone who doesn't know
00:41:33
is Adam Sandler's company. He's always
00:41:35
done it with the same people. He always
00:41:37
will. He's such a loyalist. And um it
00:41:40
was everybody I knew from The Wedding
00:41:42
Singer. And
00:41:44
>> Oh, another great one. Yeah. Oh, I love
00:41:46
that movie.
00:41:47
>> Oh, another monster.
00:41:48
>> Well, I stalked him. I was like, I know
00:41:50
that you and I are supposed to be
00:41:52
Katherine Heppern and Spencer Tracy,
00:41:55
except for probably through more of like
00:41:56
a Marty Feldman Buddy Hacket lens.
00:42:00
>> Um,
00:42:01
>> I'm not fancying myself, Katherine
00:42:03
Heburn here. I've got purple hair and a
00:42:05
leopard coat on and you're like sporty
00:42:07
sport. You're sporty spice. So, nothing
00:42:10
about us physically says that this is a
00:42:12
match. that I am convinced, Adam, that
00:42:15
you and I are supposed to be cinematic
00:42:18
soulmates.
00:42:19
And uh we did the wedding singer
00:42:22
together. And then I think it was like
00:42:24
10 or 11 years later, I found out the
00:42:27
script went to him. I ran into my
00:42:29
trailer. We were filming Charlie's
00:42:30
Angels on the Sony lot. Happy Madison
00:42:32
was on the Sony lot. And instead of
00:42:35
running over to his office, I thought,
00:42:36
I'm going to type out a letter for him.
00:42:38
So I got on my Oliveti typewriter and I
00:42:40
typed out this um
00:42:43
letter to him hysterically sobbing. And
00:42:46
this I think
00:42:48
>> the power of a letter. I've had multiple
00:42:50
things happen that have changed my life
00:42:52
for the better or in palpable powerful
00:42:56
ways through a letter.
00:42:57
>> Yeah.
00:42:58
>> Don't deny the power of a letter. And I
00:43:01
said, I I know we've talked about maybe
00:43:03
coming back together. We set ourselves
00:43:05
up real well in the first one, which
00:43:09
kind of [ __ ] us up for the second one
00:43:11
because the expectations are going to be
00:43:13
really high for both of us. And
00:43:16
>> we can't do something that is less than.
00:43:19
We have to do something equal or maybe
00:43:21
even more than. And I am convinced that
00:43:24
this is the movie.
00:43:27
>> And I had someone run the letter over to
00:43:29
his office. He showed up at the my
00:43:32
trailer.
00:43:34
door.
00:43:43
>> I love that.
00:43:44
>> HE'S LIKE, "WHY DO YOU LIKE THIS MOVIE?
00:43:47
We're trying to make it into a comedy."
00:43:49
And I said, "Oh my god, really?" And he
00:43:52
goes, "Yeah." And I go, "But okay. Uh,
00:43:56
interesting. Well, damn it. You cannot
00:44:00
lose what is so [ __ ] important about
00:44:03
this movie, which is how do you make
00:44:06
someone fall in love with you every day
00:44:08
and the poetry, like as a woman, I've
00:44:10
never been more [ __ ] moved in my
00:44:12
life. You can't wash that away with
00:44:15
goofiness.
00:44:17
And he was like, "Yeah, but we know
00:44:19
comedy and we know what guys want." I
00:44:21
said, "And you know what? I know what
00:44:23
girls want." He goes, "Well, then
00:44:25
obviously you've got to produce it with
00:44:26
me." And I said, "Well, obviously we've
00:44:29
got to make this movie together." And he
00:44:31
was like, "So, it's happening." And I'm
00:44:32
LIKE, "IS IT HAPPENING? REALLY?"
00:44:34
>> WOW. What a great story. I love it.
00:44:37
>> We went to work right away and we got
00:44:40
Flower Films, which was me and Nan, and
00:44:42
Happy Madison, which was him and the
00:44:44
boys. And we sat there and we rewrote
00:44:47
the movie
00:44:49
based on what we thought wh like what we
00:44:53
were all looking
00:44:55
>> women's side, boy side. And this was in
00:44:57
the day where as a producer early on I,
00:45:00
you know, I was told,
00:45:02
>> you know, men make the decisions about
00:45:03
where to go to the movie that weekend
00:45:05
and the girlfriend will go with them.
00:45:07
>> And that's a gender stereotype that I
00:45:10
just thought, oh god, that's crazy. All
00:45:13
right. Well, I don't know what to do
00:45:14
with that information, but thank you for
00:45:16
telling me that. And
00:45:19
uh we tried to make it this balanced
00:45:24
seessaw. And I
00:45:28
we met with directors and it was in Pete
00:45:31
Seagull who, you know, I I always think
00:45:35
I I got lucky and had a knack for seeing
00:45:39
things in directors that they hadn't had
00:45:41
in their work before. And with Pete
00:45:43
Seagull, I knew he was the guy. I knew
00:45:45
he got the tone. And this was going to
00:45:48
be such a challenge to straddle like
00:45:52
whale sperm flying in faces one minute
00:45:56
and trying to
00:45:59
connect with the human heart and move
00:46:02
people in the next scene.
00:46:04
And I was like, "This is going to take a
00:46:08
very unique conductor to pull this all
00:46:11
up and make everybody happy." And I knew
00:46:14
that Pete could do it because of our
00:46:16
conversations. I knew he got it.
00:46:18
>> And
00:46:19
>> Pete did another big comedy, Drew.
00:46:21
>> What?
00:46:23
>> Tommy Boy.
00:46:24
>> Oh, he was your director 10 years
00:46:26
before, which is another really, really
00:46:28
great film.
00:46:30
>> Isn't that crazy? Look at your face.
00:46:32
>> Oh my god. I didn't even realize that.
00:46:35
That is a [ __ ] masterpiece.
00:46:38
>> Can you believe I was saying when you
00:46:39
just said Pete Seagull, I go, you got
00:46:41
the right guy.
00:46:42
>> Oh my god, Tommy Boy. I mean, that's an
00:46:46
iconic movie, David. Iconic
00:46:49
>> like history books.
00:46:51
>> Well, love Tommy Boy. And I'm thinking
00:46:54
for you guys to balance that, the team
00:46:56
of you, Sandler and Pete, and then you
00:46:59
throw Rob Schneider in a coconut bra or
00:47:01
whatever he did.
00:47:05
>> Shop.
00:47:07
>> That's a real guy. He was based on the
00:47:08
place we stayed in.
00:47:09
>> Rob Schneider does these great funny
00:47:11
characters. But it's interesting, Drew,
00:47:13
you say that that the bones of it was a
00:47:14
drama because that's still whatever you
00:47:17
guys did.
00:47:18
>> It's kind of what it is.
00:47:19
>> It resonated by the third actor when
00:47:22
he's on the boat. sees you again. It It
00:47:24
got me verclept. I mean, I I took the
00:47:26
ride with it and that's hard to do in a
00:47:28
comedy.
00:47:30
>> It's very hard to do. It's It was my
00:47:33
life and very much with the show that
00:47:36
again I am lucky enough to make and we
00:47:38
fight so hard for it over here. We have
00:47:40
the best time making it, but it making a
00:47:42
show in broadcast daytime in this time
00:47:47
is really challenging. Um and we're
00:47:49
trying to find new ways to reinvent it.
00:47:51
But I I want to be greedy in life and
00:47:56
have all the tones. I think we have all
00:47:59
the feels and therefore there are all
00:48:02
the tones and there are all the life
00:48:04
experiences and no journey is devoid of
00:48:08
tragedy and laughter and love and
00:48:11
heartbreak and death and loss and
00:48:14
ecstasy and sex and you know maybe
00:48:19
children if you choose to go that route
00:48:21
and you know relationship. It's just
00:48:24
it's all the things. And so I don't like
00:48:27
it's music, you know, and it's visuals
00:48:30
and cinema. Like it's books, IT'S IT'S
00:48:33
EVERYTHING. It's everything. And I want
00:48:36
so badly to put everything in a blender.
00:48:39
>> But then I think the trick is you still
00:48:42
have to make it your own. You have to be
00:48:45
you. Um, but I love all the all the
00:48:50
tones and I I 50 First Dates is
00:48:52
definitely a fun tonal example that you
00:48:56
can
00:48:57
>> kind of have it all and do
00:49:00
>> really well done, really well put
00:49:02
together.
00:49:03
>> But I I'm aiming for that for everything
00:49:05
in my life. Can it can it like maybe the
00:49:08
North Stars can be simplified down to
00:49:11
heart and humor?
00:49:12
Maybe you're like Paris that Ernie
00:49:15
Hemingway called it a movable feast.
00:49:17
>> Oh, of course. That's a beautiful book.
00:49:20
>> I Yeah, it's Well, that phrase is just
00:49:23
sort of encompasses kind of what we were
00:49:25
saying,
00:49:26
>> the the magistry and the symphony of
00:49:28
life and all, you know, slings and
00:49:30
arrows and ups and downs and
00:49:32
>> better philosophers than me have spoke
00:49:35
to. But to live is to suffer
00:49:37
>> and have joy every day. And we had a joy
00:49:39
today visiting with you.
00:49:41
>> We did. We got
00:49:42
>> I was a top show host in a previous
00:49:43
live.
00:49:44
>> Ladies and gentlemen,
00:49:45
>> Hemingway perfectly. Um uh it is such
00:49:50
like I was so excited to do this with
00:49:53
you guys. I thank you for choosing me.
00:49:55
Thank you for having me.
00:49:57
>> We're thrilled.
00:49:57
>> Um thank you for everything that you've
00:50:00
done. I I I just love and admire you and
00:50:05
I'm I'm
00:50:05
>> Well, you've you've brought a an energy
00:50:08
and a uh a different point of view and
00:50:10
you're a you know, you're so far sort of
00:50:13
an outlier. It was really great to get
00:50:15
you on our podcast and hear you speak to
00:50:19
all this stuff. Really great.
00:50:22
>> Thank you. Said by Oh god, it's And by
00:50:26
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00:50:29
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