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Adam Friedland Joins the Old Boys Club

March 19, 2026 / 52:43

This episode features comedian Adam Freeland discussing his podcast, comedy, and the state of talk shows. Key topics include the influence of Dick Cavett, the evolution of comedy, and the challenges of modern-day political discourse.

Adam Freeland shares his admiration for David Spade and Dana Carvey, expressing how they have influenced his career. He discusses his own podcast and how it blends comedy with political commentary.

The conversation touches on the changing landscape of talk shows, with Freeland highlighting the differences between past and present formats. They also discuss the impact of social media on comedy and how comedians are perceived as modern-day philosophers.

Freeland shares a humorous anecdote about a roast he participated in, illustrating the unpredictable nature of live performances. The episode concludes with a light-hearted discussion about the future of comedy and the importance of authenticity.

TL;DR

Adam Freeland discusses comedy, talk shows, and his podcast with David Spade and Dana Carvey.

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Your mayor has been destroying himself
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as a cocktail waitress at night. I'm
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just I don't I thought that this was the
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old boys club. I thought this was the
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kind of stuff you guys said. I go to one
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of these Korean barbecues. He's like,
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"Would you believe it? They make you
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cook your own food." He's like, "I sure
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hate to go to one of them Korean [ __ ]
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houses." Wait, oh, why don't you come
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over here and suck your own dick? They
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say comedians are modern day
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philosophers, which is offensive to
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modernday philosophers. You know there
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are actual smart people in the world.
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When I if we meet I will go and just on
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my knees and just fate in public in
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private day. Okay.
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>> You know we always say we're not going
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to do these things but let's do it.
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>> All right Dana we had Adam Freeland and
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he's on today. Um
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>> we talked to him. He's got a podcast
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that you know is out there does well.
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He's a funny guy. is actually comedian,
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>> but he does a lot of
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>> some politics, some comedian stuff.
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>> Sort of a mixed bag, right?
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>> Yeah. It's very interesting. He's uh he
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loves Dick Cavitt or his set is kind of
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based on Dick Kavitt, a talk show from
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the 1970s.
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>> I barely remember, but yeah.
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>> And he kind of lays back. He's got a
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really kind of uh likable personality.
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He's kind of pathy. he's a little bit
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political and then he'll say stuff
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that's slightly offkilter and so it's
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very interesting.
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>> Yeah, he kind of catches people off
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guard on his show because they don't
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really know where he's coming from and
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uh but he's a comic at the root of it
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all and uh he knows us and we brought
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him on and we had a good chat with him
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actually some good laughs. You know, you
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never know what you're getting really,
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but if we can get some good laughs.
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>> Yeah. And it it's uh flattering when you
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meet younger comedians who are kind of
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like excited to meet us and asking us a
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couple questions. That was interesting.
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But yeah, he's a very charming young
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man. And I enjoyed here. He is. Adam
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Freeland.
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>> Don't be mad. I have to text the whole
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podcast.
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>> No, I'm done. Okay. Um,
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>> who you texting,
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>> Sam?
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I'm trying to
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>> I'm trying to get spots. No, I'm
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kidding.
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>> Sandler's listening to this podcast. So,
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every time his name is mentioned,
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>> you stop, guys.
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>> I I say
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just as a signal to that Adam.
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>> Yeah.
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>> That this Adam is on.
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>> Anyway,
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>> it's like the the ear tug, the Mary
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Tyler Moore ear tug to her her mother.
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>> Carol Bernett.
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>> Carol Bernett.
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>> Carol Bernett.
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>> Jesus.
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>> We've really gone off track.
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I'm blowing it right now, guys.
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>> We can get out of 45 minutes, we can get
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God,
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>> it's impossible
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exposed to the school. Everyone's
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laughing at me right now.
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>> You guys are uh I I just I'm I'm a huge
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fan. I mean, like, it's it's very cool
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to meet you guys. I uh I do a talk show
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and I meet
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>> I meet people and I'm not I'm not
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nervous around anyone. Literally, I I
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I'm uh I have
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>> I've seen it
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>> delusions of grandeur. I or like I don't
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know. I I I narciss but like around you
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guys is like uh it's it's it is but an
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honor. I I've been a fan my entire lives
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of of the both of you.
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>> Exactly. First time we haven't
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interrupted someone. Thank you. We
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wanted to hear the whole compliment.
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>> Yeah. For the first time we've never
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that we've kept our mouths shut. We
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don't want to interrupt that flow. But
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yeah, I was the same way. We're just I'm
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up the ladder from you. So when I met
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Steve Martin or something, I just
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>> Shecky Green.
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>> Yeah.
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>> When he met Auster Katon,
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>> you know about
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>> Do you know She Green? Who is that?
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>> Oh, Heshy Teshowitz. He was uh he raped
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uh like half of half.
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>> Anyway, we're going to go to a
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commercial and come back.
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>> Adam with Hollywood Rape Stories with
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our guest Adam. was on the set as a
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child when when uh Buster Keaton was
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hanging off the clock.
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>> Oh, BK. Really? Yeah. BK. BK. I said,
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"Man, that's too high."
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>> 1936.
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>> Oh, no. It's all right. I got ring
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lights. I got a mic under here.
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>> Yeah.
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>> This your grandpa's podcast. But anyway,
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let's go back to compliments. Uh, what
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do you what do you like best about what
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what floats your boat about David Spade?
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>> Yeah. Oh, nothing. Nothing at all. I'm
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talking to you.
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>> No, no. I mean, I I've I've seen a
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hundred maybe a hundred probably a
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hundred movies with you.
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>> I mean, I've seen literally every single
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uh every single Happy Madison produ.
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I've
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literally uh it's it's a very important
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thing for me and my group of friends. I
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I had a I had a a Schneider on on my
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talk show. I saw that episode. Loved it.
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>> Yeah.
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>> What are you talking about?
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>> A schnowzer. Yeah. A small dog. He's a
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He's a He's a tall glass of water. That
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boy.
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>> Schneider. I just saw
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>> Schneider.
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>> I had no idea. He was like He was He was
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He's like D. Uh I thought I I was 52.
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>> Yeah.
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>> When
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>> I always thought he was like 6'8.
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>> Schneider looks so huge on camera.
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>> He has a camera. He's a Titan. I'm
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telling you what though, whatever the
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numbers are, the confidence Rob has as a
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person going in the room and he's the
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only one Sandler [ __ ] and stuff.
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>> Yeah.
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>> That confidence makes you taller or
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makes you bigger. It makes you forget,
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>> you know.
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>> Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I went
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to AC to see uh Sandler perform and
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Schneider opened for him uh for my
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friend's bachelor party and I I told Rob
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I really I loved his closer. Uh it
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happened to be one of the one of the
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only uh uh non-political
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>> Are you being arrested?
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>> No. No. I live in New York City. It's a
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hellscape. It's a violent h anti-semitic
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hellscape. So
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>> uh is that garbage on the streets?
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That's what I heard.
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>> So that's not Nick.
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>> Yeah, they don't have alleyways. They
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the city planning, they didn't factor in
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alleyways, so we have garbage on the
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streets.
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>> But you've got Mam Danny now to kind of
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>> He promised.
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>> He's a good friend. He's my friend.
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Friends.
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>> Oh, good. Good. I'm going to say nice
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things. No,
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>> he probably grew up watching you guys as
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well. I mean, he's he's it's the first
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like uh leader that I met where it
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dawned on me that he's like of my
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generation,
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>> right?
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>> And uh it was like Yeah. We were like
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talking about like hiphop and like
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soccer like we suck. I have a question.
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>> We're like the lame. We're millennial uh
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men
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>> that
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>> uh
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>> can I ask you a question? So, this is
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kind of what I gather because I saw your
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uh precursor for your show and you had a
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CRT television,
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>> you know, when you do your little
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preamble up front. And you also, it
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looked like you were filming it from
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something deconstructed from the 80s or
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90s. That segment there was a wash over
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it. It was kind of dull, but it felt
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very retro. And I find that people who
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have
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came through the analog age, the end of
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it, went into the digital age, have
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nostalgia
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for that era,
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>> like when you were a little kid, right?
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So, is that like an emotional touch
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point for you? Like, do we also trigger
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that with you watching us when you were
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like 12, 10, 12?
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>> Uh, you're triggering something and uh
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you can't see you can't see down here.
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Uh no but uh no that that is uh modeled
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after a reference image. So the show is
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kind of modeled after Cavit. So it's
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like a long form talk show, right? So
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it's a it's the attempt was to like
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revive some I I do a talk I don't know.
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>> I've seen it many many times. I think
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you're great at it. I love it and I and
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I love the Dick Cavitt reference. I
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think Dick Cavitt is only gotten shiny
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and brighter as we go forward. I mean,
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his long form interviews with like
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Robert Mitchum, these oldtimey movie
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stars for like an hour. It's so And then
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you're hearing the sirens. You're
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hearing the sirens. Tiny audience. So,
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I'll watch it on YouTube some nights,
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I'll just go on a Dick T Cavitt run, you
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know?
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>> Yeah, they really they age so well. And
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the thing that's cool about it was uh
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because of the format of like long form
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interview uh and it like free flowing
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conversation you could see a famous
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person for who they are as a guy you
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know totally and
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>> and uh talk shows like nowadays it's
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it's so
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>> I don't even know if they make money for
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the networks anymore like it's yeah it's
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like tell me your vacation your story
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about losing your luggage and then
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what's the movie and then this is the
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clip and it's like They're these like
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kind of like weird like legacy like
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products that just exist because they
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have to be there.
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>> It's super surfacey. I I mean in the old
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days I don't even know when they
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invented boredom. It was probably like
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late 80s because
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>> Tom Schneider show was again just a like
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he had Dan Akrid on. They would talk for
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45 minutes straight. It was like no
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commercials
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>> and you would learn a lot. You're right.
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It would go a little deeper than just I
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heard you bought a dog recently and then
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you do your dogs.
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>> Oh yeah. And he he also had Gore Vidal
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and Norman Maylor and really en enemies
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and fights and weirdness would happen on
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Dick Cav and real tension, you know.
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>> But yeah, the talk show's dying. It
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basically late night talk shows took in
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about 485 million pre- pandemic between
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all of them. Now it's like 50% less.
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>> 19.
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>> You know that? How is that crazy? Art in
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his room.
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>> I'm curious. I love these machines. I
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love to research stuff. Yeah, I love
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money. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, I know
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nothing. I know nothing about money. I I
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don't know. The objective really was
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just to like do not I did a podcast for
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so long that was like quite successful
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and
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>> town
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Nick Mullen who's spirit I think he's a
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great
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>> improviser doing characters and
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impressions and I thought you guys
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played all
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>> the greatest guy ever. Yeah. Yeah.
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>> And Sav Savro. Yeah. There was a break
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chemistry between you three.
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>> Yeah, it was it was kind of like a just
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a friendship simulator, I guess, for
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people because it's like you don't see
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people listening to a podcast. So,
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you're kind of in a living room and then
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like once you stop recording, then you
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start having the argument about what to
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have for lunch. It's It's kind of like
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it feels like you're in a living room
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with friends hanging out. It was it was
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either overtly performative when Nick
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would do impressions or it was so lowfi
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and the way you guys would even dress in
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your whole body language and sometimes
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you get really tight on the mic and kind
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of talk really soft and so it it drew
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you in. But my question for you is this.
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You didn't do ads, right?
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>> We did. Yeah,
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>> we did ads and Patreon.
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>> We do the worst ads. Yeah.
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>> Okay.
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>> We do the absolute worst ads ever. Like
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we had boner pill companies which are
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like literal pharmaceuticals. We'd make
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really just irresponsible claims.
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We had no idea why they were like
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signing up still. But I think because
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the ads became part of the show, they
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become
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>> you know they're in a meeting one day
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going, "Did you know these guys from
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Come Town are goofing on our
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>> spying on town?"
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>> No, no, seriously. Uh, I think because
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people skip the the reads, right? Like I
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hate ads. I hit the 30 second skip.
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>> Yeah, we love our our advertising, but
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go ahead.
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>> No, I mean you're you guys I mean some
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of the worst I mean you barely know how
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to read.
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>> Yeah.
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>> No, I mean no but genuinely uh we were
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working two hours a week and then Stav
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was still doing the road. Nick and I got
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really lazy. Uh
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>> lazier than two hours a week.
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>> Well, yeah. I mean, I I I didn't have to
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work. I mean, I stopped doing standup
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kind of. It's just like Yeah, I thought
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I sucked also. Uh I was kind of like the
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like like Nebish of the show, you know.
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Nick and Nick is like the funniest guy
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ever. Sav is one of the funniest guys
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ever. Like, you know, I was like, "Oh,
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I'm just like the the the gay like the
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gay Jew, you know."
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>> And then with this with this show, it's
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like a kind of was just a series of
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accidents. I think it started off as a
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joke to make me into like
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>> a public intellectual
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>> like and re Stewart they said
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>> oh
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>> who's they
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>> I'm not I'm going to blow it I'm going
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to I like literally I'm just wearing
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glasses I mean they they think I'm
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something that I'm not wearing really
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>> I'm a stupid guy like but beyond that
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like uh yeah this is this requires a lot
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of effort and like the scary thing about
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trying is that if you try as hard as you
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can you can find out that you have no
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talent. Yeah.
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>> And uh what's ended up happening is that
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it's gone really well.
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>> I just have to tell you, Dana, there's
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something I'm excited about.
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>> Now, you remember we talked about Jury
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Duty, the show.
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>> Oh, yeah.
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>> Season one. Yeah.
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>> Yeah.
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>> And that one I saw it on TikTok
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>> and then it was kind of a word of mouth
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thing. It It blew up. It was funny
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>> and uh it actually all pulled together
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which I was shocked they pulled that
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thing together.
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>> Uh and I was like I will they do it
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again and they did
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>> and cool. I think that's very cool.
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>> It it was set in the courtroom the first
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time and uh
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>> this is going to be a company retreat.
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>> H yeah.
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>> Yeah. Jury duty presents company
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retreat. It takes this groundbreaking
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social experiment out of the courthouse.
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Stay with me, Dana. I got it. And drops
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it into the most relatable setting ever,
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the company corporate retreat. And if
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you've ever survived that awkward team
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building exercises or a trust fall with
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co-workers,
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>> you you know the vibe.
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>> Yeah. I mean, this is an inspired idea,
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I got to say, after jury duty to put it
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in a company retreat. This season
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follows Anthony, a real temp hired by
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Rocking Grandma's Hot Sauce for their
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annual retreat.
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>> Right there. They should figure it out.
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rocking grandma's hot sauce.
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>> Yeah, I know. It's except he has no idea
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the entire thing is staged around him.
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It's it's a workplace comedy meets
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hidden camera and uh it's unpredictable.
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It's authentic. It's so full of heart.
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The stakes are higher. The laughs are
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bigger and it still celebrates the
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goodness in people. And here's the wild
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part. Rock and grandma's hot sauce.
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They're actually making it.
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>> Okay.
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>> And the flavors will be available on
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Amazon.
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>> Oh my god. But I wonder if they started
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that first or if they they just made up
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that name and then it sounded funny and
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but it's going to get a lot of
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attention. But you know this thing
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>> I'm kind of glad they didn't do it in
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the courtroom again cuz someone would
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figure that out. I would think
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>> Oh, I don't think they could do it in
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the courtroom. I think that company
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retreat is uh the next best one. Yeah,
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>> it's hard to think of where to do it but
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they did a good job. So looking forward
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to that.
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>> Me too. streaming on Prime Video March
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20th. Come Town is still around or is it
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for sure?
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>> No, it's
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Come Town is gone. You like it? You
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should
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>> I like the Come Stain sounds. So,
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>> it's so cool that you you you know about
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Nick. It's so cool. I had young people
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turn me on to it and say you should go
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on this show and so you can riff with
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Nick, you know.
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>> Wow.
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>> So, he's great.
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>> So, that's awesome to hear. Yeah. Yeah.
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Uh straight straight up is they say
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absolutely. Um I mean no cap dude.
00:15:43
>> I don't say that kind of [ __ ] 38.
00:15:46
>> That's you and Madani over there like no
00:15:48
cap Mandani.
00:15:50
>> No me and Madani are we're we have we
00:15:52
have plans.
00:15:54
>> We have plans. We go to
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>> Soviet style. Yeah.
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>> Soviet style plans. Yeah. What kind of
00:16:01
apartment like could I get as kind of a
00:16:04
casual acquaintance of the mayor now
00:16:07
through you?
00:16:08
>> If I wanted a onebedroom in the village,
00:16:11
nice, you know,
00:16:13
>> um, what could I get it for? If we
00:16:16
connected through M, Danny,
00:16:19
>> I I don't think the mayor does real
00:16:21
estate.
00:16:21
>> Okay, that's an answer. I was probing.
00:16:24
>> I was just probing in case we know
00:16:26
Lauren Michaels. Here's a question I
00:16:28
have for you. It'd be funny if he had a
00:16:30
side he had to get a side job.
00:16:32
>> He still does open houses.
00:16:34
>> Yeah,
00:16:34
>> he's a real estate agent.
00:16:36
>> The mayor's been destroying himself as a
00:16:38
cocktail waitress at night.
00:16:39
>> Yeah,
00:16:40
>> he's in trouble. Yeah, that's funny.
00:16:43
>> Would you have aspirations for SNL or
00:16:46
ever thought about it that or were you?
00:16:48
>> I mean, as a kid, it's it's it was the
00:16:49
coolest thing in the world, but I think
00:16:51
I'm too kind of too old probably now.
00:16:54
I'm 38. I kind of have a thing going,
00:16:56
but I'm very close with like like
00:16:58
Sarah's and uh Sherman. She's like one
00:17:00
of my good friends.
00:17:03
>> I know you guys you guys are friends,
00:17:05
right? That's so awesome.
00:17:08
>> All she does is yell at me around.
00:17:10
>> How don't take that [ __ ] from her. What
00:17:12
the [ __ ] does she know? What has she
00:17:14
done with her life? Just like you my
00:17:17
boss.
00:17:19
>> No, I mean she's like one of that's
00:17:20
that's like f
00:17:22
>> We love her. Can we talk about her
00:17:24
special a little bit? I watched it the
00:17:26
other night.
00:17:26
>> I was there. I was there for the day.
00:17:28
>> You were there.
00:17:28
>> It's the wildest thing. And it's only
00:17:31
her could do. I was just
00:17:33
>> Her commitment to being bananas is so
00:17:35
good.
00:17:36
>> Yeah.
00:17:36
>> And attacking the audience. Go ahead.
00:17:38
>> Yeah. I think women can I think women
00:17:40
could do it. I think they could do
00:17:42
comedy. I for a long time we doubted it,
00:17:45
but I thought, you know,
00:17:46
>> Yeah. This is just a recent thing. Yeah.
00:17:49
>> Like the last male or female. This is an
00:17:52
X-rated haunted house.
00:17:54
>> Oh, come on. How many of them are funny?
00:17:56
>> What?
00:17:58
>> How many,
00:17:58
>> Adam? Don't even get us
00:17:59
>> Oh, women. Oh, women.
00:18:01
>> A thousand million.
00:18:02
>> I'm just kidding. They're funnier than
00:18:03
us. Of course, they tell great stories.
00:18:06
No, no. I'm just making fun of Sarah.
00:18:07
>> No, no, we had to we had to give it up.
00:18:09
I We were in that mode back in the 80s
00:18:12
for, you know, Nord Dunn didn't think
00:18:14
they were represented. And then all of a
00:18:16
sudden Sher O Terry and Tina Fay and
00:18:20
Christine Wig and you know that the
00:18:22
women kind of took over the show.
00:18:25
>> I'm just I don't I thought that this the
00:18:28
old boys club. I thought this was the
00:18:30
kind of stuff you guys said. I don't
00:18:31
even believe that. I think women are
00:18:33
fabulous
00:18:34
>> uh and so funny and their stories. They
00:18:37
really go somewhere and they're really
00:18:39
interesting and they're and they went to
00:18:41
CVS.
00:18:42
>> Are you are you reading a lot? Where are
00:18:44
you getting this point of view from?
00:18:46
>> He's just talking off top of his head.
00:18:48
>> I co-sign all that. I mean,
00:18:51
>> I'm teased. I I don't believe that. So,
00:18:53
>> no, I'm too I'm in your frequency right
00:18:55
now. I get that. No, Sarah. But Sarah's
00:18:57
special is disgusting and revolting and
00:19:00
it's it's so fun and she's she's so uh
00:19:05
>> she's so she's a singular voice and
00:19:07
she's she's a lovely friend and uh
00:19:10
>> when you're genuine, it's kind of
00:19:12
sickening.
00:19:13
I know. It's disgusting. Really? It
00:19:15
sounds like I'm like trying to molest
00:19:16
you or something when I'm being nice.
00:19:18
Yeah. I'm like molesting with
00:19:20
compliments. Yeah.
00:19:21
>> You're like mullet stand is kind of
00:19:24
boring a lot of the time. I don't know.
00:19:26
You know when you Hey everybody.
00:19:28
>> I hate it.
00:19:29
>> God masturbated in front of my cat and
00:19:30
the elbow's on the mic and and Sarah
00:19:33
never is boring. She walks out and goes
00:19:35
to this guy. You act like you don't have
00:19:36
a butthole.
00:19:38
>> That's like I'm like, "Okay, she's she's
00:19:40
already got us. She's doing stuff that's
00:19:42
very different. Very hard to find
00:19:44
different.
00:19:44
>> Well, I like that with she took the
00:19:46
Seinfeld riff and she would press a
00:19:48
button and do a little
00:19:51
>> I didn't know you could do that. Like I
00:19:53
thought Seinfeld go you can't have it.
00:19:56
No.
00:19:59
>> Oh, she doesn't get in trouble for doing
00:20:00
that, right?
00:20:01
>> Would you have to clear that, Adam?
00:20:04
>> I I had to talk to Jerry and and uh
00:20:07
Netanyahu. I had to talk to both of
00:20:09
them. They're fine now. Did you hear my
00:20:11
joke that I was saying that all my exes
00:20:13
got a podcast now? It's called Didn't
00:20:15
Come Downtown.
00:20:17
>> Really?
00:20:20
>> Don't Don't say that. I'm sure they were
00:20:22
five.
00:20:26
>> Yeah, I'm going to do the Seinfeld bass
00:20:27
for the rest of the time we do the
00:20:29
podcast.
00:20:30
>> I saw a video recently of how they did
00:20:32
it and it was a synthesizer. I thought
00:20:34
my entire life was a slap base. Yeah.
00:20:38
>> Don't Okay. Yeah,
00:20:40
>> there's a YouTube video of the the
00:20:42
composer
00:20:44
>> doing the music. Yeah, it's all Yeah.
00:20:46
And he's doing it live to the episode.
00:20:48
>> No.
00:20:50
>> Yeah.
00:20:51
>> But it blew my mind. It was like I
00:20:52
thought uh Yeah. I thought
00:20:54
>> Dude, I'm so old. I was on the lot at uh
00:20:56
CBS Radford when we were doing Just
00:20:58
Shoot Me. Oh, a couple people remember.
00:21:00
And also they were doing Seinfeld and uh
00:21:03
I'd see him on his bike. It was the
00:21:05
greatest lot. Of course, just filed for
00:21:08
bankruptcy. a lot. Terrifying in LA. Uh,
00:21:11
thanks Karen Bass. Thanks Gavin. Your
00:21:14
friends. I'm kidding. Whoops.
00:21:17
>> Who is that?
00:21:18
>> I don't know. I'm just trying to put
00:21:19
blame somewhere.
00:21:20
>> The Hollywood industry is dying.
00:21:24
>> He's on your show.
00:21:25
>> Yeah. Yeah.
00:21:26
>> Tell him to be up [ __ ] Hollywood.
00:21:28
Bring it back.
00:21:28
>> Who's going
00:21:31
I say this would this is a great idea.
00:21:33
>> I'll text you some ideas because we'll
00:21:35
get back in track. It's Gavin. Is that
00:21:39
the guess is?
00:21:39
>> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Three next week. Three
00:21:42
big ones.
00:21:43
>> Yeah. The Hollywood studio system is
00:21:45
dying. The amount of productions is
00:21:47
dying and so they have to do something.
00:21:49
So more production comes back and that
00:21:51
starts with negotiating with the union
00:21:53
>> and also subsidizing you know the
00:21:56
industry tax breaks to compete with
00:21:59
>> Romania. Boston, Atlanta, Romania,
00:22:03
Bulgaria, Zanzibar. Could you like put
00:22:06
it in an email or maybe a video? If you
00:22:10
guys are saying it, you guys are
00:22:11
legends. He might be like, "Oh,
00:22:13
>> you should say we have a question from a
00:22:14
couple of constituents."
00:22:17
>> And then
00:22:19
>> hi, I'm D.
00:22:20
>> Listen, you already lost Schneider. You
00:22:22
don't want to lose them.
00:22:24
>> What?
00:22:24
>> They're poisoning our water. No,
00:22:26
>> you were saying his last joke isn't
00:22:28
political.
00:22:29
>> Oh, the the Korean Yeah, the Korean uh
00:22:32
barbecue joke.
00:22:34
I don't sounds like he's like I go to
00:22:38
one of these Korean barbecues. He's
00:22:40
like, "Would you believe it? They make
00:22:42
you cook your own food." He's like, "I
00:22:45
sure hate to go to one of them Korean
00:22:46
whouses." Wait. Oh, why don't you come
00:22:48
over here and suck your own dick? Why do
00:22:51
you come over here and [ __ ] your own
00:22:52
ass? Yeah. It's just It's so stupid.
00:22:57
>> Let's bring up Adam. You ready for Adam?
00:22:59
>> I love fake
00:23:02
so great. They make you suck your dick.
00:23:04
Well, no, they don't.
00:23:05
>> He's like, it's kind of lazy.
00:23:08
>> Lazy.
00:23:09
>> Here's one of his jokes. We just saw him
00:23:11
on uh his first Letterman. We were all
00:23:13
friends.
00:23:14
>> Actually, Sandler, me, Jud, we were all
00:23:17
friends right before we all got on doing
00:23:19
standup in the valley and [ __ ] And and
00:23:22
Schneider was the first one to get
00:23:24
Letterman.
00:23:25
>> We all loved [ __ ] Letterman, of
00:23:27
course, and uh the show. And so, he got
00:23:29
it. And I was on TikTok the other day
00:23:31
and it was so he had such a funny unique
00:23:34
look. He looked like a little cowboy
00:23:35
shirt and he had a big pompador and he's
00:23:38
like,
00:23:38
>> "Did he do Elvis?
00:23:40
>> He did Elvis on a fish hook and he did a
00:23:42
>> Elvis on a fish hook. That got him SNL I
00:23:45
think."
00:23:45
>> Yeah. I think that was so weird.
00:23:47
>> He did how you say dude when you're in
00:23:49
LA. There's different ways of saying it.
00:23:51
He had one where he goes, "My parents
00:23:53
when I uh one time they spilled uh
00:23:57
uh I spilled like No, no, he hit his
00:24:00
knee on the coffee table and he was a
00:24:02
little kid and his mom would hit the
00:24:03
coffee table and go, "Bad coffee table.
00:24:05
Bad." And uh and then he'd feel better
00:24:09
because she goes, "We make it even here.
00:24:11
You were bad." And so he goes to bed and
00:24:14
then his dad wakes him up at 2 in the
00:24:16
morning. Hey Rob, your mom just spilled
00:24:18
some hot oil on the coffee table. Come
00:24:20
on out here. We got to make it even. You
00:24:23
know our policy.
00:24:26
>> So,
00:24:26
>> was he the first like breakout of your
00:24:28
of your crew?
00:24:29
>> Did I say it wrong? There's no laugh.
00:24:31
>> Um
00:24:33
>> uh uh
00:24:34
>> I've worked with him in San Francisco. I
00:24:36
>> maybe
00:24:36
>> No, I mean like when you guys were all
00:24:38
like
00:24:40
>> young guys. Yeah.
00:24:42
>> Spade and Schneider came as like a duo
00:24:45
somehow.
00:24:46
>> We got hired together. We were We
00:24:48
auditioned at the same time. got hired
00:24:50
as writers. Adam, I think, was doing
00:24:52
remote control, so I think he was sort
00:24:55
of known a little bit in that world of
00:24:57
MTV, which is a big world back then.
00:24:59
>> Yeah, he was on M MTV. He struggled.
00:25:02
>> I am poor boy.
00:25:04
>> He struggled for I think it was like 13
00:25:07
weeks when he got to New York and then
00:25:09
he got a TV show. So,
00:25:11
>> Sandler had a lot of stuff going on.
00:25:13
>> Undeniable.
00:25:14
>> Yeah. Undeniable.
00:25:16
No way. I knew Rob and uh well from San
00:25:19
Francisco and then met Spade in LA. So
00:25:22
and Dennis Miller we both knew them
00:25:25
>> and sort of
00:25:26
>> helped a lot
00:25:27
>> tacidly. How about these guys and then
00:25:29
you only had like 10 minutes right at
00:25:31
the time David or 15?
00:25:33
>> Yeah, probably 15. I was not a headliner
00:25:35
for shows. Maybe a middle.
00:25:36
>> They came in as writer features
00:25:39
basically, right? Yeah.
00:25:40
>> Yeah.
00:25:40
>> Wasn't a writer either. Couldn't It was
00:25:42
a
00:25:43
>> We couldn't even get a writer. It could.
00:25:44
>> What did you do for your audition? Just
00:25:46
stand up.
00:25:47
>> You talk on me or Dana?
00:25:49
>> What? Yeah. What What did you guys do?
00:25:52
Like I think I know. What did you do?
00:25:53
>> A I think did Characters.
00:25:55
>> You did Characters, right? Probably.
00:25:56
>> Well, yeah. Yeah. Basically, chatting in
00:25:59
between, but but I I was seen in a club,
00:26:02
which was lucky because I auditioned for
00:26:04
SNL the Comedy Store and a cattle call
00:26:06
and followed Sam Kenisonson with no MC
00:26:08
in between at midnight and bombed
00:26:11
epically. and the SNL people were there
00:26:13
but not Lauren. And then later on Lauren
00:26:15
was the show was coming around. So I
00:26:17
went to a small club on the west side
00:26:19
and Lauren came with Sher. And I got to
00:26:22
do 40 minutes of standup with a regular
00:26:24
audience. But I still had to audition
00:26:27
again. Um Jim Carrey was there too and
00:26:31
Phil Hartman at a studio and stand in
00:26:33
front of maybe five cast members. Love
00:26:35
it. Nora Dunn, Dennis Miller, Lauren
00:26:38
Michaels, some assistants and do kind of
00:26:40
chatty standup, you know, just
00:26:43
character.
00:26:44
>> Did you get laughs? Like the thing is
00:26:46
you get no laughs, right? That's
00:26:47
>> not in that one. Not with Lord and
00:26:50
everybody. You just have to
00:26:51
>> nerve-wracking.
00:26:52
>> Well, I done chop and I did something
00:26:55
and then there was a fire alarm. So
00:26:58
there was 10 minutes of nothing
00:27:01
>> and I'm just standing there and then
00:27:03
Lauren goes, "Uh, is that pretty much do
00:27:05
you have anything else or is that just a
00:27:08
song? Is that all?" And I I thought
00:27:12
later that his
00:27:13
>> aloof coldness
00:27:15
was trying to find out can you take live
00:27:19
TV and not blow it because the tension
00:27:21
was I think intentionally he ratchets it
00:27:23
up
00:27:24
>> to make you nervous and see if you can
00:27:26
handle it. I said, "I I got a lot more,
00:27:29
bitch." And then he went,
00:27:32
>> you're like, "I'm just waiting to see if
00:27:33
there's a real fire. Can we leave?"
00:27:37
Sarah, actually, speaking of our friend
00:27:38
Sarah,
00:27:39
>> Jesus,
00:27:40
>> uh, in the middle of her uh, second show
00:27:43
taping, the uh, the lights [ __ ] up and
00:27:47
she she was like she had a ton of
00:27:49
momentum. The lights [ __ ] up and then
00:27:51
she had to come back out cold and I it
00:27:53
was giving me heart palpitations like as
00:27:55
a comic
00:27:56
>> because it's like it's a it's a special
00:27:58
taping.
00:27:59
>> Yeah.
00:27:59
>> And I was like I was like nauseous. I
00:28:01
like wanted to throw up. Then she had to
00:28:03
get the [ __ ] momentum back and I was
00:28:05
like I was so stressed out or something.
00:28:10
>> I said she's dressed as a goer or some
00:28:12
[ __ ] she's doing.
00:28:13
>> She's dressed as some sort of clown
00:28:15
psycho.
00:28:17
>> We on the road. I go, "This is a
00:28:19
literally a clown's outfit." She goes,
00:28:21
"I know." I go, "Do you have any normal?
00:28:24
Do you have a [ __ ] you know pencil
00:28:27
dress?" Pencil dress. He's one of those
00:28:29
people who be like, "You take one day to
00:28:32
know her and 20 years to believe it."
00:28:34
>> You know, cuz that's really that's
00:28:36
really her. Yeah. She's really she's not
00:28:39
putting on a thing. I mean,
00:28:41
>> on stage, that's not really her. She's
00:28:43
an annoying Jewish girl in real life.
00:28:45
But on stage,
00:28:47
>> but that's so her so her in the sense of
00:28:50
>> what she wants to do. It's it's so
00:28:54
humor, you know. But anyway, that God
00:28:57
>> Wait, what? David, what did you what did
00:28:59
you do?
00:29:00
>> Oh, I just uh
00:29:01
>> not much.
00:29:02
>> Just
00:29:04
>> didn't really knock the RTOR scale. I
00:29:06
did supposed to be doing 20 I think
00:29:08
Catcher Rising Star. It was a light
00:29:11
crowd, probably half SNL, right? 10
00:29:13
people and then half 10 other people.
00:29:16
And I did I did 12 minutes I think
00:29:18
because it wasn't going that well. And
00:29:20
then um and then Schneider went
00:29:23
>> SNL from a bad scent.
00:29:24
>> Yeah. Well, they had seen me on the
00:29:26
Young Comedian special, so I was already
00:29:29
foot in the door. And we had the extra
00:29:32
push of being with Bernie Brilstein and
00:29:34
that that company had a lot of SNL
00:29:36
people.
00:29:37
>> Lauren Michaels was a client
00:29:38
>> and they got Dana Dana and a little bit
00:29:41
and Dennis Push. So, that all helped.
00:29:44
And then Dennis was saying they're going
00:29:46
to mostly look at your writing of the
00:29:47
jokes, not really if you're a polished
00:29:50
road act. And so I think they just liked
00:29:53
that it was like sort of a weird act and
00:29:55
I looked a little younger and
00:29:56
>> you know they he said it normal like
00:29:59
that. He didn't say like that that was
00:30:01
like Hannibal crossing the Alps cha. He
00:30:04
didn't say it like that way. He said
00:30:05
>> no he did say before I went out he goes
00:30:07
>> he said it normal.
00:30:08
>> He go I go I'm a little nervous tonight.
00:30:09
He goes
00:30:10
>> well don't worry. He goes he goes you
00:30:11
don't want to kill too hard. They're
00:30:13
going to think you're some polished road
00:30:14
dog [ __ ] act. And I go so don't do well.
00:30:17
And they're like and you're on. I'm
00:30:19
like, "Wait, don't get loud." I So I go
00:30:22
on and uh and then I got off and I was
00:30:27
like, "Oh, [ __ ] it." And then Schneider
00:30:28
went on. Then Tom Kenny went on and then
00:30:30
we got a call a couple days later on a
00:30:32
pay phone, old man alert.
00:30:34
>> And then they were like walking by one.
00:30:37
>> We were waiting for a call like in a
00:30:40
>> The Matrix. Yeah.
00:30:41
>> And they go, "Oh, it was like someone
00:30:43
from Burlstein saying Gerbitz or someone
00:30:46
saying, "Oh, that good news. They're
00:30:47
going to hire you as feature player
00:30:48
writers." I'm like, I don't want to
00:30:50
write. I just want to be a on this
00:30:52
[ __ ] show. And then they go, you got
00:30:54
to write for everybody. Like Dana,
00:30:56
everyone's better than us. I'm like, I
00:30:58
don't know how to write for these guys.
00:30:59
I don't know how to write a sketch. So,
00:31:00
it took a long time, especially for me.
00:31:02
Rob picked up a little quicker. Sandler
00:31:04
picked up very quick.
00:31:05
>> And David would sit behind me in the
00:31:07
read through. We're all reading the
00:31:08
scripts and there's like 50
00:31:10
>> die. And then Lauren would always say to
00:31:13
me just to just to mess with me, David's
00:31:16
ready whenever you fall, David's right
00:31:20
there.
00:31:22
>> Cuz David, you know, we kind of look
00:31:24
like we're from the same tribe or he's
00:31:26
my little brother or whatever. So, it
00:31:28
was a natural thing of like
00:31:29
>> it was like being in the quarterback
00:31:30
room with like Brett Favre and you're
00:31:32
like, "Hey, so you gonna stick around
00:31:34
another year?" And he's like, "I think I
00:31:36
got one more in me." I'm like, "That's
00:31:38
great."
00:31:40
And they got, you know,
00:31:42
>> they're giving great massages here at
00:31:44
the Jets, so I got to stay around for
00:31:46
another year.
00:31:47
>> Remember his wiener?
00:31:50
>> Yeah, I remember.
00:31:51
>> Yeah, I still talk to his wiener
00:31:52
sometimes.
00:31:53
>> No, I'm kidding. He sent his wiener
00:31:55
around. Remember this one time he sent
00:31:57
it to some sports reporter
00:31:59
>> or Yeah. Yeah.
00:32:00
>> Early dickpick drama.
00:32:03
>> Uhhuh.
00:32:04
>> Are you an artist?
00:32:06
>> Not really.
00:32:06
>> Yeah.
00:32:07
>> Oh, him. Oh, I I didn't do this, but
00:32:10
I've No.
00:32:11
>> Well, on a side, I put in Adam Freeland
00:32:12
and then it went to it said tour this
00:32:15
and that and then it showed these really
00:32:18
cool
00:32:20
paintings.
00:32:20
>> He is not
00:32:21
>> Oh, yeah. I'm not. No, during co I just
00:32:24
painted a little bit. Yeah.
00:32:26
>> You have there's a painting of George W.
00:32:29
Bush getting the word about 911.
00:32:32
>> Yeah, I think that was the best one I
00:32:33
did.
00:32:34
>> You did do those two. You had a fire.
00:32:36
And then you did the comedian
00:32:38
>> my coat. Yeah.
00:32:39
>> And you did the comedian crying or
00:32:41
whatever. Which uh
00:32:43
>> which one was it?
00:32:45
>> Uh he hosts
00:32:46
>> Oh, I did the Steve Harvey. Yeah, the
00:32:48
Steve Harvey.
00:32:49
>> Okay. So I thought where where am I?
00:32:51
This is a weird site. So okay. All
00:32:53
right. Hidden talents. Is that
00:32:55
>> I don't even know that that's still up
00:32:57
on the internet. Yeah, too. But
00:32:59
>> I did a I did a deep dive.
00:33:01
>> I should get rid of that. Mhm.
00:33:04
>> Um,
00:33:04
>> is Epstein still alive? 5 seconds.
00:33:07
>> Go.
00:33:08
>> Epste still alive. You have 5 seconds.
00:33:10
>> Well, if he's still alive, then he's
00:33:13
he's quite rudely ghosting me.
00:33:17
>> Quite rudely.
00:33:18
>> He's getting bad press lately. Have you
00:33:20
noticed?
00:33:21
>> He's a, you know, it's just his
00:33:23
anti-semitism has gone out of control.
00:33:26
>> You know what?
00:33:28
If he's alive, he's going to need one of
00:33:29
those crisis PR people. I think
00:33:32
>> he definitely will
00:33:33
>> kind of digging out of a hole.
00:33:34
>> As evil as possible. Yeah.
00:33:37
>> Anti-semitism is out there, man.
00:33:40
>> Yeah. Yeah. Well, actually, I I did a
00:33:42
show and it was like the worst show of
00:33:44
my life recently.
00:33:46
>> Um but it was like Sorry. Um Richard Kai
00:33:50
did my my talk show and then he asked me
00:33:52
to co-host a charity event. I I didn't
00:33:55
know what it meant. And then like 45
00:33:57
minutes before they were like it's a
00:33:59
roast of Richard Kind hosted by the
00:34:02
roast master general himself, Mr. Jeff
00:34:04
Ross. And I was like
00:34:07
a ro I I did I didn't have a set. I like
00:34:10
I'm like I'm freaking out. So I fart out
00:34:13
like a like some jokes and I get there
00:34:16
and it's just 97year-old billionaire
00:34:20
Jewish grandparents.
00:34:22
>> And I'm like what is this for? I like I
00:34:24
was like I don't know where I am. And uh
00:34:28
and
00:34:30
I was like I was told that Jeff Ross is
00:34:32
going to be the roast master. So I was
00:34:33
like I wrote some nasty crap.
00:34:35
>> Yeah. Yeah.
00:34:36
>> Real nasty blue crap.
00:34:38
>> Yeah.
00:34:38
>> And so like I go out and there I was
00:34:40
like I don't guys I don't know if I
00:34:41
should say this. It was a little bit a
00:34:43
little bit crude. And they're like say
00:34:44
that joke. And I was like uh well like
00:34:47
like a lot of like a lot of people like
00:34:50
uh Richard Khan like changed his name
00:34:52
when he moved to Hollywood like uh John
00:34:55
Stewart was once named John Lieowitz and
00:34:58
Richard Khan was once named and I was
00:35:00
like Zman the rapist and then it just
00:35:04
crushes the old people like love that
00:35:06
joke and I was like I was like how is
00:35:08
this possible? I was like I was like and
00:35:10
then I'm like you know but relax guys
00:35:12
it's a family name. It's it was rape was
00:35:15
changed at Ellis Island
00:35:16
>> and I was like in fact his grandfather
00:35:19
Mosha rapist was the first rapist in
00:35:22
Hollywood. He he founded the creative
00:35:24
artist agency and there have been
00:35:26
rapists throughout the industry ever
00:35:27
since and then it dies when I say that
00:35:30
it's a weird crowd.
00:35:32
>> It went from a throwway to a theme.
00:35:36
>> You got a one shot. You're a one shot
00:35:37
wonder.
00:35:38
>> This crap I rode in on the subway. I was
00:35:40
like I I'm freaking out. I was like, I
00:35:42
have to get through this. And so then
00:35:44
I'm like, you know, and then I was like,
00:35:46
you know, I it's going fine. I'm like,
00:35:49
I'm surviving, right? And it's it's
00:35:51
actually
00:35:52
>> I'm happy. I'm happy with how it's
00:35:54
going.
00:35:54
>> Yeah.
00:35:56
>> I was like, I wrote I wrote a a movie
00:35:58
for Richard uh recently. I pitched him.
00:36:00
It's called the the first Jew who died
00:36:02
in the Holocaust. And I was like, it's
00:36:04
about a guy who's in line for the train
00:36:07
to Awitz. and he was uh complaining
00:36:09
about whe uh whether or not he could use
00:36:12
his points for business class and then
00:36:14
>> good
00:36:15
>> and yeah they liked it. They liked you
00:36:17
know all the all the other Jews like
00:36:19
take him he's horrible. Uh, and so then
00:36:22
the last joke's there and then I was
00:36:24
like, oh, I guess it's a roast. I got to
00:36:26
go around the deis. No,
00:36:27
>> it's all I have left on the page, right?
00:36:29
>> I'm like, well, Jeff Garland's here from
00:36:31
Curb Your Enthusiasm. Hey, you fat [ __ ]
00:36:33
And haha, s you fat [ __ ] And then Jeff
00:36:36
Ross is here. Like, oh, don't don't give
00:36:39
me I forgot what I said. We know I know
00:36:41
what you did. I had nothing. Right. And
00:36:44
I look and I look at the crowd and I'm
00:36:46
like, and Jeff Epstein's here. Where the
00:36:49
hell have you been? Dead. Like dead.
00:36:51
Like more just the worst silence I've
00:36:54
ever heard in my entire life. And
00:36:55
horrible. Like you know when a joke
00:36:57
bombs you hear a couple chuckles. It's
00:36:59
like it's like the air has left the
00:37:01
room.
00:37:01
>> Yeah.
00:37:01
>> And I'm like standing there. It's the
00:37:03
last thing I have to say.
00:37:04
>> And I'm like it's topical. It's like
00:37:08
the news. I'm like it's not my What are
00:37:11
you talking about?
00:37:13
>> It's the last thing on the page. It
00:37:15
>> was it was just the last thing on the
00:37:17
page. And I'm like, and I'm like, and
00:37:19
then uh Richard kind of like looks at
00:37:21
me. He's like, "Adam, I think it's cuz
00:37:23
he's dead."
00:37:24
>> And I'm like, "Oh, I didn't mean to. His
00:37:27
his body is barely cold. You know, I
00:37:29
didn't I didn't mean to speak ill of the
00:37:31
noted sex trafficker and pedophile. That
00:37:33
one's
00:37:33
>> Jeffrey Epste. I love
00:37:35
>> And then my friend is in the crowd and
00:37:38
this old guy turns to him. He's like,
00:37:39
"Hey, I knew Jeffrey Epstein."
00:37:41
>> Oh. to me. I didn't even
00:37:45
Oh, that wouldn't
00:37:46
>> I got off the stage and uh someone was
00:37:48
like actually I think he was a major
00:37:50
donor to this organization. It's a
00:37:52
charity that we're doing an event for
00:37:54
right now.
00:37:55
>> Yeah.
00:37:55
>> And I was like I didn't know it was a
00:37:57
real guy. I thought it was like from the
00:37:58
news.
00:37:59
>> When did they get on this guy? He's
00:38:01
[ __ ] they they got some data now.
00:38:03
It's
00:38:04
>> it's a guy from dinner. It wasn't it's
00:38:06
just like it's a real person to them.
00:38:10
And so it was just I I literally I ran
00:38:12
away. I I left.
00:38:14
>> I like the idea of you on the subway
00:38:16
going there going, "Does anyone have
00:38:17
rape jokes?" And everyone's trying to
00:38:19
help you. And so
00:38:20
>> they liked like a romcom.
00:38:22
>> Zman the rapist. They love
00:38:24
>> Yeah. You started with your closer and
00:38:26
you
00:38:26
>> Well, da da the rapist. That's a the
00:38:28
rhythm of a great joke.
00:38:30
>> Well, it just sounds like someone from
00:38:31
like a a small village in in the
00:38:35
>> Yeah, it's it's kind of quaint. You
00:38:36
don't expect
00:38:37
>> There's like one guy that's the the
00:38:38
Yeah. the fool. The village idiot. This
00:38:41
guy's
00:38:42
>> the rap like the hunchback. He's the
00:38:44
rapist.
00:38:44
>> You know, the butcher, the rapist.
00:38:46
>> Yeah. And the hunchback.
00:38:48
>> The local rapist.
00:38:49
>> Yeah. Stand up big is is delicate. I've
00:38:51
done those events. I Neil Young and
00:38:54
every the Stills and Nash were in the
00:38:56
audience. Some kind of benefit in LA
00:38:58
somewhere. And the same kind of thing
00:39:00
just crickets bombs away.
00:39:03
>> Yeah.
00:39:04
>> Neil Neil just sat there kind of
00:39:06
stonefaced. I mean, he just he was
00:39:08
probably waiting to go on, you know, but
00:39:10
yeah, Neil was cool, but it was just
00:39:12
that situation. You just triggered me
00:39:14
and I know you can't see.
00:39:15
>> He was busy searching for a Heart of
00:39:17
Gold. I've done so many so many uh
00:39:20
corporate gigs where I bombed Dana. I
00:39:22
don't I can't even imagine Dana bombing,
00:39:24
but I guess it happens.
00:39:25
>> I have my tricks, but I I could, you
00:39:28
know, I try to levitate the room. I have
00:39:30
a sickness when I was in the clubs in
00:39:31
the early days. If you didn't kill, you
00:39:33
didn't move up and you didn't get
00:39:34
rehired. So there was this like doggy
00:39:37
dog must kill and must get a standing
00:39:39
ovation must or I'm dead in the water.
00:39:42
So I've just carried that with me. So I
00:39:45
go to these corporate dates I still want
00:39:47
to kill and it's kind of hard
00:39:49
>> when they've had dinner and it's like
00:39:51
11:00.
00:39:51
>> You know what's a good bit to do? Last
00:39:52
night I was at the comedy store and I do
00:39:55
my set and I get off. It was either
00:39:57
Harlon Williams or Santino was next and
00:40:00
I I go I get my applause which is just
00:40:03
fine. And it's not crazy, but I get off
00:40:05
and I see them about to walk on. I go,
00:40:07
"Ooh, um, Encore." And then I go right
00:40:10
back behind the curtain. They think I'm
00:40:11
going to run back on stage and they're
00:40:14
so pissed. They're like, "No, I
00:40:16
>> But of course, I was ask."
00:40:20
>> Yeah, he is. Just
00:40:21
>> the last time I s I saw him in like a
00:40:24
couple years ago and I'm like, he blew
00:40:26
my mind. Harland is underrated because
00:40:28
>> one of the funniest he's one of the
00:40:29
funniest comedian
00:40:30
>> constantly kills there
00:40:32
>> and you don't hear that much about him.
00:40:33
This isn't a negative thing. It's just
00:40:36
it's a positive thing. Meaning
00:40:38
>> he gets good spots and there's a reason
00:40:40
he gets these good juicy spots. He does
00:40:42
he does well.
00:40:43
>> Was he the one who did this standup
00:40:45
special? There was somebody who did one
00:40:47
just on a mountain by themselves with no
00:40:49
audience. Was that Harland? Somebody did
00:40:51
that.
00:40:52
>> Somebody did that during COVID. Didn't
00:40:53
they do a no audience? Yeah, the camera
00:40:55
just came in and I thought it was Harley
00:40:57
was just in the alone in the desert on
00:40:59
kind of a hill.
00:40:59
>> That's why you need a hook for a
00:41:00
special. I would have to get laughs.
00:41:02
That would be easier.
00:41:05
>> Oh, Heather's all about the groins,
00:41:07
dude. Spring always makes me want to hit
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00:42:43
Adam, have you done a Netflix special
00:42:45
yet? I'm sorry that I
00:42:48
>> kind of I took the last year off the
00:42:50
road uh to get the show up and running
00:42:53
and uh because like yeah, Nick Nick like
00:42:56
Nick uh left the show to do we were sick
00:42:59
of podcasting and that's like how we
00:43:01
were paying for the talk show. So, we
00:43:03
both were like, "Let's just stop doing
00:43:05
the podcast." Uh, and then I kind of
00:43:07
went dark for four months, hired a
00:43:10
staff, and now I'm kind of producing
00:43:11
this talk show once a week, but now I'm
00:43:13
back on the road. So, I'm in Philly this
00:43:16
weekend, and yeah.
00:43:18
>> Have you had any confrontations on your
00:43:20
podcast with big world leaders or
00:43:21
important people?
00:43:24
>> Uh,
00:43:26
big world leaders.
00:43:28
>> Well, I didn't have a confrontation with
00:43:29
him. I got along with him really well.
00:43:32
>> Yeah.
00:43:32
>> Uh on the show I had this guy Richie
00:43:35
Torres. We had a thing that went
00:43:38
sideways about politics. You know, it's
00:43:41
just like you don't want to be
00:43:44
>> a major thing I I I want to resist doing
00:43:46
is like people think comedians are smart
00:43:50
now. Like you know, like oh yeah,
00:43:52
>> I don't want to speak from a position of
00:43:54
authority in any way that I don't
00:43:56
qualify. Like I could do the homework
00:43:58
and then present that I know these
00:44:00
things, but it's a lie, right? Instead,
00:44:02
I could rather like talk to someone
00:44:05
>> and ask them ask them questions that I
00:44:07
feel comfortable asking instead of like
00:44:09
whenever I hear a comedian like spouting
00:44:11
off about [ __ ] that trying to be smart.
00:44:14
It's like
00:44:15
>> it's it's where you become a blowhard,
00:44:17
right? Like so I don't want to I don't
00:44:18
want to do that.
00:44:20
>> I call it becoming a teacher. Like I am
00:44:22
a standup, but I'm going to shut up.
00:44:26
Yeah, talk about owner pills.
00:44:30
>> Yeah, exactly. Norm had a really good
00:44:32
quote once that was like uh uh that was
00:44:35
like they say comedians are modern day
00:44:37
philosophers which is offensive to
00:44:39
modernday philosophers, you know, there
00:44:42
are actual smart people in the world,
00:44:44
you know,
00:44:45
>> and he happened to be like one of the
00:44:46
smartest guys, you know, but it's just
00:44:48
like
00:44:48
>> it's not really us. We shouldn't be like
00:44:52
uh the the the thing is is like the
00:44:54
platforms are so big now like 10 times
00:44:57
more people are listening to Rogan every
00:44:59
day than watching CNN
00:45:01
>> anything. So
00:45:02
>> yeah.
00:45:02
>> So so there's like this uh you know
00:45:05
>> just by virtue of the fact that the
00:45:07
platforms are so big that they're
00:45:08
getting a ton of attention. But
00:45:11
>> for me personally in my show I I have to
00:45:13
make a concertive effort of like what I
00:45:15
want to do which is like if so if I have
00:45:18
a politician I'm not going to study up
00:45:20
on like specific legislation but instead
00:45:23
I could be like yo like you know no one
00:45:25
likes the government and everyone hates
00:45:27
you like why do you want to be in it?
00:45:30
>> Right.
00:45:30
>> That's a question that's a question I
00:45:32
feel comfortable asking and then you get
00:45:34
an interesting answer to it too that
00:45:36
they're not they don't h they don't have
00:45:38
talking points. They're not ready for
00:45:39
that one. Yeah. And do you do both sides
00:45:42
when you do interviews?
00:45:44
>> What do you mean both sides? Like
00:45:46
>> right, left to
00:45:47
>> Republican, Democrat.
00:45:48
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've had uh that
00:45:50
guy Scott from CNN from the argument
00:45:53
show.
00:45:53
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's
00:45:54
>> That guy's having so much fun on that
00:45:56
show.
00:45:56
>> Oh, he is.
00:45:57
>> Is he where he sits down and argues
00:45:59
there?
00:46:00
>> He's like, "Shut that." What is that
00:46:02
show?
00:46:03
>> It's just a lot.
00:46:04
>> Every time I see a clip, it's more
00:46:06
people.
00:46:06
>> Well, it's kind of Yeah. It's like the
00:46:09
United Nations review or something. They
00:46:11
get
00:46:11
>> They're all agreeing with each other one
00:46:13
after. It's a circular thing. Yeah.
00:46:16
Yeah. Yeah. And then they come to Scott.
00:46:18
Oh, wait a minute. I mean, it's kind of
00:46:20
entertaining.
00:46:21
>> Yeah. Scott's lucky because he gets half
00:46:23
the lines, right?
00:46:26
>> One of him. He gets 50% of the time.
00:46:28
>> He's cooking on that show. But I had him
00:46:30
on the show and then like, you know, and
00:46:32
then I' I've had, you know, people on
00:46:34
the I don't want to be partisan also.
00:46:37
Like I have my own opinions.
00:46:39
>> I'm not going to be like of the left or
00:46:41
of the right. I'm just a person. And if
00:46:44
someone says something that sounds like
00:46:45
[ __ ] if someone says something that
00:46:48
sounds stupid,
00:46:49
>> I think secular trends are a way to talk
00:46:54
about politics without being political.
00:46:57
>> You know, way
00:46:58
>> uh Okay, we for better for worse, we
00:47:00
have a $ 38 trillion debt. What's that
00:47:03
about? you know, um,
00:47:05
>> yeah,
00:47:06
>> what are we going to do with homeless
00:47:08
people literally in the big cities? I
00:47:10
mean, stuff that should be a problem for
00:47:12
everybody. And then it's a matter of how
00:47:13
you want to solve them.
00:47:14
>> Yeah. Sometimes you want to be like,
00:47:16
what like what's the food like at the
00:47:18
cafeteria in Congress
00:47:21
or like you want to be like, you know,
00:47:22
like Yeah.
00:47:23
>> You know, uh, how someone met Trump,
00:47:26
they're like, "Yeah, what were like the
00:47:27
weird things that he showed you?" Right.
00:47:29
You know, sometimes you you kind of want
00:47:31
to get like a threedimensional picture
00:47:33
of who these guys are and you kind of
00:47:35
see how like normal or [ __ ] weird the
00:47:40
people are that are in these positions.
00:47:42
And I think like actually seeing people
00:47:43
for who they are is actually very
00:47:45
helpful. So, if I'm like asking them
00:47:47
about even just like, you know, their
00:47:50
backgrounds, like I had one politician
00:47:53
on and I was like talking to his comm's
00:47:55
team and I was like, you know, does he
00:47:57
like [ __ ] does he play guitar? I was
00:47:59
like, I can't find anything. And they
00:48:01
were like, he likes walking around and
00:48:03
uh and hot dogs. And I was like, he
00:48:06
sounds like the BTK killer.
00:48:11
>> I was like, you guys have to make
00:48:12
something up. everyone. Everyone's
00:48:14
>> got to get them a tattoo or a snake. I
00:48:16
mean, it's this is walking around and
00:48:18
and hot dog expert.
00:48:20
>> They don't know anything. They are
00:48:22
nothing. And it's it's you give them
00:48:24
power. If you have a financial advisor,
00:48:26
they use all these funny terms to kind
00:48:28
of raisage you. They're just dudes in a
00:48:31
room. They, you know, they're take taken
00:48:33
as [ __ ] [ __ ] these people. Yeah.
00:48:35
>> Never give experts power, you know,
00:48:39
especially with modern day information,
00:48:42
>> you know.
00:48:42
>> I don't know. I think they we just they
00:48:44
need to do a good job probably. Doesn't
00:48:46
seem like they're doing a good good job.
00:48:48
A lot of them.
00:48:48
>> Have they ever? They're I don't know.
00:48:50
>> Yeah, I think they've done a good job a
00:48:53
couple times. Maybe.
00:48:55
>> Well, maybe we are doing a better job.
00:48:56
>> They passed like the Civil Rights Act.
00:48:58
That was pretty good, I guess.
00:48:59
>> Yeah.
00:48:59
>> Maybe this is the best it gets, you
00:49:01
know, because people go,
00:49:02
>> "No, no, it's very trashy. It's very
00:49:04
It's It's like they wear hoodies and
00:49:06
stuff now. I We got to bring back the
00:49:09
Yale guys that do like satanic blood
00:49:11
rituals." Like it was at least it was
00:49:13
classic.
00:49:13
>> Did they ever really go away?
00:49:15
>> At least it was classy. Yeah.
00:49:17
>> Now you can you go on Facebook Live and
00:49:20
have a meltdown at CVS and be in
00:49:22
Congress like six months later.
00:49:24
>> Yeah, it's true.
00:49:24
>> It's a little white trash. It's like I
00:49:27
just They used to have class.
00:49:29
>> They used to kill
00:49:32
>> They kill the president. They'd kill the
00:49:34
brother. They'd kill But they had class.
00:49:37
>> Yeah.
00:49:39
>> All right. We're ending on that because
00:49:40
that's a good upper. We're trying to get
00:49:42
you a
00:49:44
>> Are you on your way to the airport?
00:49:46
>> Yeah.
00:49:47
>> Oh, guys, I've been uh like a like a
00:49:51
10year-old so nervous and I hope you've
00:49:53
enjoyed it. But genuinely speaking, my
00:49:56
legends. I mean,
00:49:58
>> first of all, I don't take confidence
00:49:59
well. I didn't react earlier. I really
00:50:01
really
00:50:01
>> I want to suck your dick. When I if we
00:50:04
meet, I will go and just on my knees and
00:50:07
just fate you in public, in private day.
00:50:12
Okay?
00:50:12
>> You know, we always say we're not gonna
00:50:13
do these things, but let's do it.
00:50:15
>> Here's what we're going to do. Here's
00:50:16
what we're going to do. On May 9th,
00:50:19
>> Netflix is a joke. You're at the Region
00:50:21
Theater.
00:50:22
>> Yeah.
00:50:23
>> We're gonna get a ticket.
00:50:24
>> They sold the first one. Dave and I
00:50:26
we're gonna be we're not gonna let you
00:50:28
know, but we're gonna be sitting in the
00:50:30
back and right before you go on, they're
00:50:32
gonna go, "Spade and Carver are here.
00:50:34
They want to see what you got."
00:50:35
>> Yeah.
00:50:36
>> Some jokes might sound familiar
00:50:38
>> from our act.
00:50:39
>> My cho My chopping broccoli opener.
00:50:43
>> My chopping broccoli.
00:50:43
>> You can have that. I love it when people
00:50:45
do.
00:50:46
>> Yeah. Yeah.
00:50:47
>> But what's the other broccoli called?
00:50:49
Broccolina.
00:50:51
>> Yeah. I have a big Joe Dirter that I've
00:50:53
been doing.
00:50:56
a Dicky Roberts chunk in full costume.
00:50:59
>> Formers.
00:51:00
>> Yeah, thank you for coming.
00:51:02
>> Can I ask you Can I ask you a sincere
00:51:04
question?
00:51:04
>> Sure.
00:51:06
>> Do you think Grown-Ups 2 is better than
00:51:08
one?
00:51:09
>> That's a whole another podcast. Um,
00:51:11
okay.
00:51:11
>> I will tell you in person.
00:51:14
>> Two is one of the funniest movies of all
00:51:16
time.
00:51:16
>> You like two better?
00:51:18
>> I like two better. I'm a two guy.
00:51:20
>> That That's a split. I have to say
00:51:22
>> it's a split
00:51:22
>> with black Sheep. It's 90% Tommy boy.
00:51:26
Grown-ups and grown-ups too.
00:51:28
>> It's almost 50/50.
00:51:31
>> We'll get into it.
00:51:32
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00:51:37
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00:51:56
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00:51:58
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00:52:00
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00:52:03
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Episode Highlights

  • A Comedian's Aspirations
    Reflecting on childhood dreams of SNL, one comedian shares, "I think I’m too old probably now."
    @ 16m 48s
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  • Women in Comedy
    A discussion on gender in comedy leads to the statement, "I think women can... do it."
    @ 17m 40s
    March 19, 2026
  • Women in Comedy
    A discussion on how women have taken over comedy, highlighting their unique storytelling.
    “I think women are fabulous.”
    @ 18m 31s
    March 19, 2026
  • The Hollywood Industry's Struggles
    A conversation about the decline of the Hollywood studio system and the need for change.
    “The Hollywood studio system is dying.”
    @ 21m 45s
    March 19, 2026
  • Unexpected Roast Success
    A comedian shares a surprising experience at a roast, where their edgy jokes landed well with an unexpected audience.
    “I was like, how is this possible?”
    @ 35m 08s
    March 19, 2026
  • The Roast That Bombed
    A comedian shares a story about a disastrous joke that fell flat, leaving the audience in silence.
    “It's like the air has left the room.”
    @ 36m 59s
    March 19, 2026
  • Unexpected Confrontation
    After a controversial joke, the comedian learns that Jeffrey Epstein was a major donor at the event.
    “I didn't know it was a real guy. I thought it was like from the news.”
    @ 37m 57s
    March 19, 2026
  • Comedy and Politics
    The discussion shifts to how comedians navigate political topics without sounding authoritative.
    “I don't want to speak from a position of authority in any way that I don't qualify.”
    @ 43m 54s
    March 19, 2026

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  • Childhood Dreams16:48
  • Women in Comedy17:40
  • Hollywood Decline21:45
  • Surprising Roast35:08
  • One Shot Wonder35:36
  • Comedy Bomb36:59
  • Political Comedy43:54

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