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Brendan Fraser
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Brendan Fraser uh he is uh I met him
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first during Dickie Roberts uh the movie
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and we asked him to come in and do
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a day or two uh and play himself and he
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did that was nice and he was super cool
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and he's a huge star yeah he's always
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been a rep of being a cool dude he's uh
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that was the height of his Fame he came
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over and did his favor um uh we got to
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chat with him and there's so much going
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on with Brennan plus just give some of
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the movies I mean I mean he really and I
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I when he was 23 I believe he started
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Encino Man that was probably in a frozen
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caveman broke through so then he was
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just huge hit in the 90s he was doing
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George the jungle The Mummy trilogies
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he's had this incredible career and then
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for different things we'll talk about he
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sort of went away for a little while and
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then he came back I saw him uh in the
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Showtime show the affair and he was
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great in that and I hadn't seen him in a
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while ago damn he's a great actor and
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then recently as everybody knows he's
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done a movie called the whale in which
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he plays a 600 pound man so the sort of
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all things Brendan these days and people
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are just really happy to see him back
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such a like yeah it's like it's nice to
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see everyone pulling for someone and
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yeah and uh he doesn't really need
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pulling four I don't think that's what
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he's asking for but it's just nice to
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see someone's a good dude every career
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is up and down
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um and
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to still be killing it and to know he's
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always probably knows he's good it's
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just it's the opportunities that's for
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everybody you just don't always get oh
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yeah totally so he's he's back and you
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know it was a I think it was Lauren or
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Bernie that I always said
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um the talent doesn't go away
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so your career can go like this but the
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talent doesn't go away we're going to
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ask him about uh standing ovations they
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go to Cannes Film Festival you got a
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12-minute standing ovation I go do
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people feel dumb after a while do you
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ever use the bathroom in the middle of
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Standing Ovation because I would be I'd
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be texting with one hand like I mean how
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long can you go like this when you go
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like a bunch of seals but we'll get into
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that because there's a six minute one he
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had at Palm Springs and he had an eight
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minute one I'm like so first they Stan
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is like 20 seconds and then it's like
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that Festival hears about it yeah two
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years later it's like longer than the
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movies
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with the French love to do that you know
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the franchise
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[Music]
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we'll we'll get we'll do a deep dive
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into that uh we won't tell you about the
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whale we'll we'll talk to him about it
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so you can wait for that and uh but what
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a movie and um here he is Brandon
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Frazier
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[Music]
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no one hates us but we do all the time
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so this is you know obviously new show
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business that we don't really even talk
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we never had a plan we just put the mic
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on and start talking to people connected
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to SNL in some way yeah and you know so
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it's
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do you have any questions of us
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we're just asking Greg who your sponsors
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are because I'm just interested in how
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popular a lot of the you know this is
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new a lot of Hello fresh you know a lot
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of companies that basically say will do
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the work for you digitally like you know
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zip recruiter be one of them you know
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like we'll help you hire people zodoc
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will help you find a doctor yeah it's
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true
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sorry but they're gonna love this part
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of this podcast
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yeah this is free advertisements
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what's our favorite we don't have a
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favorite Master Class no it's good that
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they do it because what you should do
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you should teach a master class in what
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uh brilliant acting duh
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we both saw the whale I'm still
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recovering well we both saw I didn't see
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it all I got to the part where you got
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out to the ocean and then I I didn't see
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it it clicked out oh no I'm kidding
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I saw it okay I saw it and it kept
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cutting off because they give you 18
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minutes to watch it and so it gives you
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little bits oh I know my screen mine was
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perfect you know screeners work yeah I
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pressed a button I had on a beautiful
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laptop stereo speakers and I went
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downtown and it was amazing we're going
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to talk about the whale we're going to
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save it for the for for people listening
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right now want to hear about Brenda's
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thoughts about the whale it's coming up
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soon okay we can say that because I want
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to talk about a lot teaser I'm learning
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uh still shaken by it
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um okay we'll do a little SNL let's just
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ask him a couple quick questions because
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we have to fake like that's what this
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whole thing is about well no no I I want
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to talk about SNL as a part of his whole
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thing because I was fascinated as I did
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a deep dive is how you
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I hadn't seen anybody do the broad
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comedies
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and then can do the offbeat leading man
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funny guy like the mummy stuff and back
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and forth you're doing George of the
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Jungle and then you're doing Gods and
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Monsters it's like there's a pattern
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here I've had to have a theme I have a
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theme for every podcast yours is like
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the seeds of you being this renowned
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brilliant actor it's almost like you're
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just starting now I would say because
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you set the seat for it by constantly
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dipping your toes into it between these
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franchises that is so iconic anyway
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that's all I have to say I'll be quiet
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good night thanks folks I think I think
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his his pattern is there's no pattern
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how about that interesting because like
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let's say someone like me who gets into
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comedy you're lucky enough to just get
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um comedies and so if you're let's say
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Encino Man was maybe one of the first
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things that sort of uh blew up for you
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that was um which is a comedy you think
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that's all you would get offered or
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and people tell me oh you should do more
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movies like uncut gems I'm like well
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everyone should but that's just not how
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it works yeah do the academy
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award-winning level movies those are the
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good ones again yeah but then you went
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to school ties from Encino Man yes with
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Matt Damon
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um correct correction it was the other
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way around School Ties was shot first
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and then you went around the release
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dates were flip-flopped wait so you so
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much just brilliant drama and then you
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went with this broad comedy or whatever
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you want to call it a full-blown comment
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a straight ahead teen comedy genre that
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I don't know if it's really being done
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that way anymore y'all kids go to high
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school have a big Discovery no throw a
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party my sons who were basically 30 I'll
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just round them off that you're so much
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a big part of their childhood and they
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miss just big funny comedies that just
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exist to be funny
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maybe people are scared to step in it
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because you got to dodge so many types
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of jokes you know that's really your
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domain and expertise yeah and that's the
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hard part they start pulling stuff and
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cutting stuff and uh you just lose
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something maybe maybe those days are
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over forever but it's just like anything
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you just like Madonna you got to figure
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out a different way to make a comedy
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that's still big and funny I think they
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can make it back I think there's an app
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type yeah I think there's a huge app
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because it just releases all the
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cultural stuff that's going on and you
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just laugh you know the question We're
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not gonna let you talk
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he warned me I'd have to fight for my
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time I warned him ahead of time but
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we're slowing down because we're shot
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out of mechanics we just saw the movie
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so well I was gonna yeah I was I was now
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I was deeply napping in a full full-on
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dream and he said he's here no I'm
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kidding no but I I live close by no I
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said get over here prick I said who he
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said Brenton
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so the School Ties is sort of a heavy
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drama right so you get that now is it
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because of some sort of feedback or
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buzzing that that you when you go for
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Encino Man uh that helps that because
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you've got one in the can that people
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like sometimes that's how it works
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chronologically I went in to meet for
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Encino Man before I got hired to do
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School ties and I I was reticent to do
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and see no man because it was too kooky
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and I wanted to I don't know step out as
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very serious actor straight out of
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college with my my DFA in my back pocket
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and a lot of aspiration and
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um
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I I understood that the character is
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basically the new guy in town which was
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something that they hadn't seen anyone
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bring in to the readings or the
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auditions before that they really wanted
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because he's you know he's a fish out of
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water he's in trying to fit in all that
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um but it was so Broad and I didn't
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really know anything about film or
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comedy and then School Ties came down
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the Pike and
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I read for that
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did nothing with it because it didn't go
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anywhere they were casting a driftnet to
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find their David as I learned
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um and then some a number of of months
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later they came back to with a new
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um casting director who had me go in and
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read for Sherry and they did a screen
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test and I thought when they said do you
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want to test I was thinking exams in
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something that's a green I was
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um got the job
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and that was great I I read with Matt
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Damon and
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um met a lot of the other guys who were
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already hired
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was off to Boston and Massachusetts to
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shoot School ties and um was getting
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messages from
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um
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Encino Man with George the loom and Les
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Mayfield were quite driven to get me to
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come on board and then part way through
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almost finishing School Ties I was
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having a conversation with a really
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great guy who was called Keith Wester
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he's not with us anymore he was a
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soundboard mixer and he had a great
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voice and he was always mixing sound but
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he
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he was reading he was on his own Radio
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Show in a way he was really a Charming
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guy and he was mentoring a lot of us and
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I was talking about you know what are
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you doing and and uh I was conflicted
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and very serious and got his comedy
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thing they want me to do and they've
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offered it to me and he said well hang
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on you know there's this it's a drama
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and you've got a comedy it's not a bad
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thing to have you know as he said
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because he joked about it a bird in the
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hand it's worth two in the nest is that
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the bush I think idiom bush is near
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ahead and I just realized uh my voice is
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so loud and I'm screaming I'll sit up
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he's very cool can I say something I saw
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an electromagnetic uh visual thing
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around your mic maybe it's your charisma
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I'm sorry there's a flash feature on my
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phone
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it's went swoosh so Greg Holtzman quite
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another I'll turn that off I don't want
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to be that guy I didn't want anyone to
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get electrocuted during our podcast it's
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my own lighting feature when I say
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something interesting he's got a light
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Charisma it's like there's a lightning
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but by the way you had to when you read
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the script for School Ties it was the
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first time you had to not have clothes
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on and act I saw you had to have a fist
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fight with Matt Damon in a shower yeah
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when you read that in a script are you
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like okay or I can't wait for that day
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well you don't look forward to it but I
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understood what the scene was about was
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exposing one another's Prejudice and all
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this oh yeah it was incredible
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aggression and so it kind of drives the
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point home yeah and 17 year old boys
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fight so lock it let's figure this out
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there it's interesting I don't want to
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interject but I like to interrupt David
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um these these people throughout your
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life anybody could be a parent brother
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friend who'll say these casual things
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that kind of tilt you in one direction
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or another we could all have stories
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about that so this one guy said this
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thing to you which made it I'm gonna go
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do Encino Man or till to do that it
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helped me make up my decision because
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this point was if you're new to the
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industry your calling card will be I can
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do something dramatic I also I can do it
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all comedy
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don't get that off you don't get that
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chance a lot so you have a chance before
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the one comes out you're like I can do
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the other one and then now you can get
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hired for two different kinds of movies
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that was the hope then so yeah um and by
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the way Encino Man is a good movie you
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can do wrong like that no it was that
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reading it
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he was great I remember seeing it back
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then I think Paulie was in it with you
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correct and Polly was funny and crazy
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and uh but you were Charming he's good
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looking but you're making a lot out of
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this that could have gone the wrong way
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you know what I mean it could have been
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so dumb but it was a huge hit and that
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was great and it was fun I remember
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watching it back in the day and that
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kind of launched you uh I I I remember
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my first audition was for a movie called
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um I wrote it down
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[Music]
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yeah what'd you say about it I just
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remember that film was coming out and it
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was being promoted and I was yeah seeing
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a young Ethan Hawke and the cast yeah on
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Oprah I think it was to I'll press for
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it so it was prior to and you did movie
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anything in my yeah I did a couple
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auditions and didn't quite make the cut
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um but uh so from George I'm not George
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jungle you have so many in here goddamn
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yeah there's so many but I just want to
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introduce this too because is that you
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said that your dramatic training so you
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you're doing some of these movies and
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you're just totally committed like as a
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dramatic actor essentially when you're
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doing even Encino Man yeah you're not
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thinking comedy you're just playing the
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truth the scene I don't know how to
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think comedy I think I'm the least funny
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person I know and so I saw some pretty
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funny on it that's my Approach it's
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a risk calling comedy anyway but it
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might understand here
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approach is that if you think you're
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funny you're not yeah and if you try to
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be funny for sure you're not so play it
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as a straight ahead reality right yeah
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and you know on SNL when the host would
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come in and sit down in that first
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Monday meeting and say good news guys
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I'm funny
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I know how to do it I know I was shocked
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I know all the rules of comedies and
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three things oh boy I just made a joke
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it wasn't Christopher Walken he said the
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Bears no that would be funny
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um but one gear that you did have also
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in the these 90 comedies is that and I
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find it really interesting that you
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could make your face like super leading
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man handsome and then you could go to a
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grin that would just go a certain way
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that made you kind of funny or you know
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you could take the handsomest and be the
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goofy leading man it's really
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interesting to watch that some of your
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stuff you know it was that intentional
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or just it was you're just thinking it
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I'm sure you weren't making a face but
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you could actually had a chameleon
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aspect
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well I think you shouldn't take yourself
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too seriously yeah maybe it comes from
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that yeah and just I think if you're
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having fun internally I do think with
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comedy it helps even that doesn't mean
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you're mugging pushing trying to be
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funny but you're feeling a sense of fun
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you know
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um likable is half of the battle too
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Anthony Hopkins a Tony to me sure told
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me once that he thought acting at the
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top level is a form of self-hypnosis he
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would as you probably have heard he only
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reads the script 200 times and he has a
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Polaroid in those days I know you're a
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huge Polaroid camera person he had a
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Polaroid picture of his character and
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they'd yell speed he'd put it up look at
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it put it on his face and go what put it
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in his pocket and then he was the guy
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are you sure
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picture of himself and then played the
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character yeah wow look whatever works
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and he'd breathe it and he said oh I
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think it's sort of I always do Rob
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Williams when I do Anthony Hopkins
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they're both incredibly shy they're his
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Charisma is like this you know but um
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this you know we'll go to the whale in a
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minute but it's hard to act the point I
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wanted to make something else I learned
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I got this from Lauren was before I did
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the first monologue when I hosted SNL
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that moment before the it wasn't
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broadcast it would have been the
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rehearsal yes thank you um he came out
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and he has a little chat with the hosts
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I was told yeah Lauren's going to have a
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word with you all he said to me was it's
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all about confidence and he turned on
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his heel and we went to whatever shoot
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it went to air wow that's what he told
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me I mean I didn't know if he was
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telling me be confident or don't try and
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be funny but essentially it's just about
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taking ownership of what you're doing
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yeah and
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committing to it
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um
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I think that that let me know a lot
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about
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um pretty much everything else about you
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know again
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knowing you're knowing you're there for
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a good reason you're good at what you do
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you like what you do and if people don't
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laugh at what you're doing then just
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move on to whatever is next
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well I felt when I watched the 97
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monologue you were very confident thanks
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but then when I watched 99
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there was a whole other level of
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relaxation because you you'd already
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done
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it but once before nothing defeats that
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you went and you found Tom Davis in the
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room it's like Tom Davis was still
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living on the set
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it was really really good day when I was
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there
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[Music]
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what about when did Airheads come along
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95
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95. so I was hearing you talk about that
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on some uh you know with Sandler with
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Sandler I didn't put that together it's
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like oh what's up I was whenever he's
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mentioned I try to do that just under
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Mike yeah he's he's listening uh so oh
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by the way let's listen so it's uh Adam
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was asking you are you guys kind of uh
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bullshitting about AirHeads and and then
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Adam goes oh and Farley was on it he was
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on for two weeks he did a lot of night
00:18:21
shoots and it was probably the most fun
00:18:24
I've had on any set I'm sorry were you
00:18:26
in grown-ups
00:18:28
Adam traitor
00:18:30
no it was very traitor-ish and you agree
00:18:33
I'm glad you agree
00:18:34
and uh Grumps 2 also he could have
00:18:36
picked either one uh but I remember
00:18:38
AirHeads and I was jealous I think Bob
00:18:40
Simons did that movie I think it came
00:18:41
along yeah and he was shooting down uh
00:18:43
he was in New York some of it there was
00:18:46
some in uh inside stuff and I would come
00:18:48
maybe came to watch I don't think I knew
00:18:50
you but I knew Adam and Farley and uh
00:18:52
Buscemi I just met so that one kind of
00:18:54
was a fun one too it didn't do great but
00:18:56
another fun comedy one right let's come
00:18:58
around I do a lot of fan conventions now
00:19:00
and people show up dressed like Chaz
00:19:02
Darby and the characters the posters
00:19:04
design they scream uh it's too loud
00:19:08
you're too old
00:19:11
you're flipping you off double barrel
00:19:13
flip off you just get him right back I
00:19:16
love you bro you know what I think it's
00:19:18
it's really fun when you get a movie
00:19:19
that lives on because sometimes movies
00:19:21
do well and you never hear from them
00:19:22
again and then some sort of live on and
00:19:24
it's good to have the ones I think it
00:19:25
Resurgence because it's you know
00:19:26
Nostalgia yeah now for a whole new
00:19:28
generation I did one called PCU and then
00:19:30
people go oh PCU is great I didn't love
00:19:32
it but I go oh yeah okay Hey listen if
00:19:34
there's people that get into it and for
00:19:37
and it's kind of timely again now
00:19:39
because it's politically correct and all
00:19:40
that stuff right uh some of my movies
00:19:43
were buried in Nevada
00:19:45
in a mine
00:19:47
if you could have saved Clint slate you
00:19:49
could have played that baby they would
00:19:51
test nuclear bombs and just do it do it
00:19:53
because they wanted to blow that movie
00:19:54
up people still like Wayne's World come
00:19:56
on you guys yeah Wayne's World come on
00:19:58
let's talk about Superman I just heard
00:20:00
that that could be a quick story but oh
00:20:02
Superman what was the era of Superman
00:20:05
was that an audition or was that a
00:20:07
meeting or how does that work that would
00:20:08
have been in the year
00:20:09
2002 uh it was on the Warner Brothers
00:20:13
lot they were looking for a new Superman
00:20:15
and I think they're like five or six
00:20:17
guys around town who are being juggled
00:20:19
their names juggled around sure
00:20:22
um there's a test again same drill yeah
00:20:25
I went in on a fox or the Warner Brother
00:20:27
lot put on the outfit no first I went
00:20:30
into an office somewhere in wheelchair
00:20:31
Corridor and they locked me in a room
00:20:33
with a script that was printed on
00:20:35
Crimson paper with black ink could
00:20:37
hardly read it but you know you could
00:20:39
also can't photocopy okay and then I I
00:20:43
could read it and give it back to them
00:20:44
and then for a Superman movie yeah I
00:20:47
could know the story okay so was it
00:20:49
since Christopher Reeve this is like the
00:20:51
first Superman back I don't know it
00:20:53
would be way later than that I think
00:20:54
Reeves might have done the third one in
00:20:57
the 80s so
00:20:58
uh all right Brandon Ruth played the
00:21:00
part that's what he got ultimately got
00:21:02
your part okay correct about it's his
00:21:04
but I mean I was an aspirant for sure
00:21:06
and um yeah there was a screen test uh
00:21:10
how did you talk as Superman I mean did
00:21:12
you kind of lower it you have a pretty
00:21:14
deep voice but did you I didn't want to
00:21:15
put quotation marks around anything yeah
00:21:17
and I didn't pretend to be Superman I I
00:21:20
tried to you know get back in think of
00:21:23
it well the script that was written was
00:21:25
like it was like heightened text it was
00:21:29
like they seemed like that you know had
00:21:32
a gambler or
00:21:34
um you know like big stuff that you
00:21:36
would have done Dynamic pentameter
00:21:38
Shakespeare and all classic text and so
00:21:40
I gave that kind of approach to just
00:21:41
taking everything seriously and playing
00:21:43
big objectives and yeah you know and
00:21:45
just trying to
00:21:47
approach the piece as if it was a giant
00:21:50
Opera in space you know do you have any
00:21:52
lines like Lex Luthor you're an idiot oh
00:21:55
kill me
00:21:56
taizor was his name I was bellowing
00:21:59
tyzar
00:22:00
I'll kill you
00:22:03
I would have done it as super Encino Man
00:22:08
change your name was that was Zod
00:22:11
in one of those or am I crazy Zion
00:22:14
there's a woman a man with black hair
00:22:17
and they came down there going the three
00:22:19
that got in the painted glass I love
00:22:21
that one that one was brilliant yes the
00:22:24
first Christopher Reeves uh glass prism
00:22:26
yeah
00:22:29
it wasn't Brandon Brando was in that he
00:22:32
was amazing
00:22:34
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00:22:42
these Regis get out of here and there's
00:22:46
a little bit of choice a little bit
00:22:47
Brandon there we are there's no one
00:22:49
finder then Brendan Frasier anyway I
00:22:53
just have to tell him I'm just a little
00:22:54
Punchy right now I'm sure you're more
00:22:57
Punchy than me no no no he's beat up
00:22:59
you're a giddy from the whale uh but
00:23:01
we're not talking about that just yet I
00:23:02
want to tell him about his big break in
00:23:04
Dickie Roberts now yes Dicky Dicky
00:23:07
Roberts where everyone was saying a
00:23:11
Brendan phrase you or
00:23:14
um it's like razor Frazier right razor
00:23:17
Frazier rather than do you shave with a
00:23:19
racer or do you say oh Fraser do you see
00:23:22
it do you shave with a razor razor or do
00:23:25
you say that Frasier the chameleon voice
00:23:27
guy got it yes I can do it it takes
00:23:31
Direction
00:23:33
Brendan Fraser just gave me an acting
00:23:35
note it was a great note he'd be a good
00:23:38
acting teacher um yes I want you to
00:23:40
direct me
00:23:41
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00:23:49
because I didn't know Brendan and he was
00:23:52
nice enough to come in and do something
00:23:53
in it but I think it was through Sam the
00:23:56
director Sam Weissman okay so the back
00:23:59
story on that was just to bore this
00:24:00
out of you is Vicki Roberts
00:24:04
was Pitch we pitched at me and Fred
00:24:05
wrote it and we said oh it's a child
00:24:07
star which is sort of to this day a
00:24:11
theme of child stars kind of Hit the
00:24:14
skit you know what I mean they have a
00:24:15
lot of trouble and it's very real and
00:24:17
it's sad and it's no one's quite figured
00:24:19
out how to fix it but that movie was
00:24:22
PG-13 two funny things one when we
00:24:26
finished writing it
00:24:27
a pretty big director kind of can't
00:24:28
remember was said I'd love to do it I'll
00:24:30
keep the First Act but we have to go
00:24:32
very dark after that
00:24:34
and make it R-rated make it with the way
00:24:36
that it really is and I said no it can't
00:24:38
be super dark I mean and Paramount's not
00:24:40
gonna do that uh so
00:24:43
we handed it in but by the way when I
00:24:45
handed it in this is a classic Showbiz
00:24:47
story
00:24:48
so they read it at Paramount and then I
00:24:51
get word to back channels
00:24:53
they like it a lot and they want to give
00:24:55
it to Jim Carrey now
00:24:56
ouch you understand that this could
00:24:59
happen at any time this is a classic
00:25:00
behind the scenes and so
00:25:03
people are trying to keep that away from
00:25:05
me going the good news is they love it
00:25:08
but they think Jim could take it like
00:25:09
crazy because he was the biggest guy
00:25:11
right there they'll give him 20 million
00:25:12
dollars and uh
00:25:14
and they talked to Adam saying as Santa
00:25:16
was the producer of it and so
00:25:19
he said I don't know ask Spade but I
00:25:21
think Spade because he co-wrote it would
00:25:23
rather be in it but then John Goldwyn I
00:25:26
think it was John Goodman who's under
00:25:27
Sherry you mentioned Sherry Lansing I
00:25:29
think you mentioned her about School
00:25:30
Ties yes so
00:25:32
he called me and said you might have
00:25:34
heard some rumors it was so weird and he
00:25:38
said I apologize we're moving forward
00:25:39
the way it is and I said you know John I
00:25:42
get how business works
00:25:44
hey you take me out of it if you could
00:25:46
have Jim Carrey I get it it's really not
00:25:48
personal yeah I'm trying to take it that
00:25:49
way and uh he said no we're moving
00:25:51
forward uh and let's do it and so that
00:25:55
was such a wake-up call like those those
00:25:57
conversations happen every day yeah and
00:25:59
you just don't know it I shouldn't have
00:26:01
known it but I found out he said you
00:26:03
still want to do it I said yeah so we
00:26:04
did it Brandon was very nice came in and
00:26:07
uh so what did you do Dickie Roberts I
00:26:11
was playing myself yeah oh you're the
00:26:13
celebrity camera he was I was proving
00:26:16
that I think I know celebrities because
00:26:18
I grew up and I was wearing gloves and I
00:26:20
was crazy but you know that child star
00:26:22
thing could go
00:26:24
there's really dark because they're kids
00:26:25
and they get involved in all these crazy
00:26:27
adults and uh and then there's the
00:26:29
drinking and so we started in a skim job
00:26:32
of making it but it was fun we we
00:26:34
brought in a lot of child stars to do it
00:26:36
and then at the very end you know some
00:26:38
aren't with us anymore but it was it was
00:26:40
very interesting to talk to them up
00:26:41
front just and hear some of their real
00:26:44
stories but we can talk about Brendan's
00:26:46
movies again all right would you do you
00:26:49
have any more things you want to share
00:26:51
about Saturday Night Live before yeah I
00:26:53
loved it it was a proving ground and it
00:26:55
earned a stripe at the same time by the
00:26:57
way I felt like I had it was a milestone
00:27:00
absolute Milestone you feel like I think
00:27:03
if I was just out there doing a show or
00:27:05
doing a movie
00:27:06
and when it's one of those things like
00:27:08
the cover Rolling Stone or something
00:27:09
where they go you they want you to host
00:27:11
it it has to hit you like it does it's
00:27:14
just it's not insubstantial at all and
00:27:17
when you host that show you own New York
00:27:20
for an hour or so in a feeling that you
00:27:22
get yeah oh it is oh it's the coolest
00:27:25
thing like you're a part of the city in
00:27:26
a meaningful way that I wasn't
00:27:28
anticipating the whole machine
00:27:29
everyone's trying to help you everyone's
00:27:31
there to make sure you're okay that week
00:27:32
that I think it's about changing clothes
00:27:35
it's mostly about it goes fast quickly
00:27:38
running around features not trying to
00:27:41
bump your head into the overheads
00:27:42
basically yeah you would be in danger of
00:27:44
that at your height
00:27:46
there you go then you can put bumpers on
00:27:49
it like oh yeah they have bumpers tennis
00:27:52
balls because you're sprinting sometimes
00:27:53
the studio in the dark naked essentially
00:27:57
naked underneath the seats of everyone
00:28:00
watching so there's all these asses
00:28:02
above you and you're like crew guys are
00:28:04
walking by they've got me stripped naked
00:28:05
this guy walks by the cigarette Spade I
00:28:07
thought you're going to start working
00:28:07
out I go get out of here I would just
00:28:10
close my eyes I'm so humiliated by just
00:28:12
a little underwear on it I I was
00:28:14
completely bare chested everything there
00:28:15
comb my hair they're picking at me and I
00:28:17
just closed my eyes and this can't be
00:28:19
here I wear two speed I was in case my
00:28:21
main one breaks all right
00:28:24
do you know the Hooter clamp it's a
00:28:26
thing that keeps everything in place
00:28:27
it's called a Hooter clamp so that would
00:28:31
spell data well you know that's a joke
00:28:33
my brothers and I had that as a running
00:28:35
gag when we were kids I have three older
00:28:36
brothers like is that one of our
00:28:38
sponsors we joke about the Hooter clamp
00:28:41
brought to your mother
00:28:44
you got your Hooter clamp on it was just
00:28:46
a joke you know I don't know there's
00:28:48
also you can put a trucker's buddy in
00:28:50
there where you can pee during the show
00:28:51
that's real okay no three older brothers
00:28:55
so oh oh wait an SNL so 97 I had gone I
00:29:00
know you probably looked for me for
00:29:01
about a half hour I had gone by then and
00:29:03
then Will Ferrell I think was there yes
00:29:06
cast it was sort of will maybe Molly
00:29:09
Quinn Will Ferrell Tim Meadows he you
00:29:13
were in a really funny sketch with
00:29:14
Cheryl Terry and Chris Katan where they
00:29:16
went crazy in the gym like what you want
00:29:18
to work out huh you know that aggressive
00:29:20
sexual dude the most committed sketch
00:29:23
players ever probably and you were right
00:29:25
in there you know at the end come on you
00:29:27
guys and every time you play along with
00:29:28
them they'd start screaming at you it
00:29:30
was really funny like these people were
00:29:32
sexual perverts I'm the trainer okay
00:29:35
I'll go with it when you want that you
00:29:37
want that and then Chris katam would go
00:29:38
nuts on you very funny amen
00:29:42
it's fun to be in that insane world of
00:29:45
like sketch and then you the second
00:29:46
you're like taking a bow in your head
00:29:49
going we got through it here's the crowd
00:29:50
it's live and they're ripping you going
00:29:52
again you're the UPS guy in this one you
00:29:54
have a Russian accent oh there's
00:29:55
another one you're looking like or even
00:29:57
worse if there's a sketch you fell in
00:29:58
love with that one got cut no I know
00:30:01
that's the between dress and error it's
00:30:03
heartbreaking yeah were you on the first
00:30:05
delicious dish that's where the no not
00:30:08
the first one I was on it though but it
00:30:09
did the Applause at the beginning I felt
00:30:11
like it was new when you were on it or
00:30:13
maybe it was the second time I wouldn't
00:30:15
know what to compare it to but I think I
00:30:17
think Peach Ready MP3 yeah balls sweaty
00:30:19
balls he was coming on with a little
00:30:21
beard and glasses and plant sort of this
00:30:24
quiet nerd playing very small about
00:30:27
squash or something like that that was
00:30:30
me yeah okay yeah and what were there um
00:30:32
yeah okay the scary thing is
00:30:36
good times good times was that it good
00:30:38
times yeah yeah good to know read this a
00:30:40
little harder hey because writers get to
00:30:42
be directors on SNL I had a hard time
00:30:45
understanding that concept like who's
00:30:47
the director who's the director and
00:30:48
someone actually pulled me aside
00:30:49
everybody is the writers are the
00:30:51
director you are the dude I wrote my
00:30:54
first sketch they go go in the booth and
00:30:55
watch it I go what does that mean I'm
00:30:57
the director of it I don't know what the
00:30:58
going on it's a great thing there
00:30:59
was it's you know when William Shatner
00:31:01
came on he was so loose like during the
00:31:03
dress show or whatever he seemed like he
00:31:05
goes well why why what I can't you know
00:31:08
because we're so under rehearse like
00:31:09
it's ridiculous there's cucumbers yeah
00:31:12
why bother can't believe people take it
00:31:15
seriously you can't rehearse you know so
00:31:17
it is just I loved it personally because
00:31:19
I can get up in my head I love that it
00:31:21
was so fast yeah okay let's just go less
00:31:24
time to think about it no time to think
00:31:26
just go go
00:31:27
but I'm jumping ahead to The Mummy now
00:31:29
the mummy the moment it's called the
00:31:31
mommy I'm I'll see your mommy and raise
00:31:34
you the whale no we're getting to the
00:31:36
whale that's the big the whale is a Big
00:31:38
Kahuna yeah all right but the mummy I
00:31:41
liked it because
00:31:42
say it again easy Ahab you know hunting
00:31:45
for the whale
00:31:48
there's a giant franchise three huge
00:31:52
movies
00:31:54
um yeah that Brendan starred in in the
00:31:56
knots correct yes now what was your what
00:32:01
was your biggest pain no let me see oh
00:32:03
yeah
00:32:05
you don't have to tell us how much money
00:32:07
you got paid I don't even honestly
00:32:09
recall to tell you the truth because
00:32:10
most of it's gone now I
00:32:13
I know the feeling
00:32:16
today yeah everybody comes and takes it
00:32:19
all away do you remember making a
00:32:23
million dollars my first million I
00:32:25
remember I don't know what it was but I
00:32:27
remember a good conversation a good
00:32:28
conversation first million well what are
00:32:30
you in that that's the thing is it a
00:32:32
million in the bank people don't
00:32:33
understand what's the check shock on
00:32:35
this one I remember my first paycheck
00:32:37
and it was for 17
00:32:40
000 dollars on a pilot I did what the
00:32:43
net I went and picked up my check from
00:32:45
the agency it said nine thousand dollars
00:32:48
and I went to their accounting
00:32:49
department there's a mistake here and
00:32:51
they pulled me a sign they're like no
00:32:52
kid you got to pay taxes you gotta pay
00:32:54
commission okay
00:32:56
you're out I mean if you get a million
00:32:59
you probably make and it sounds crazy
00:33:00
people because a million is so much but
00:33:02
when you walk with 375
00:33:05
000 you go you round down to 25 cents on
00:33:07
the dollar yeah because you got agent
00:33:09
management to get used to the gross
00:33:11
figure and your friends hear the gross
00:33:13
yeah right I drove to an agency once
00:33:15
with my wife and I think it was a 30 000
00:33:17
check for a pilot and we're like we're
00:33:19
rich it's over babe we went in it was
00:33:22
like 1300 you know I tried to give her a
00:33:25
hug
00:33:26
differently you said you were red yeah
00:33:30
just kidding honey I got it at some
00:33:33
point and I was so excited about it and
00:33:34
okay and my question on the mummy were
00:33:36
it was early and CGI kind of yeah it
00:33:41
well it was the tip of the spirit ilm
00:33:43
with John Burton Running Oh I am okay
00:33:44
and they had done a lot of uh stuff with
00:33:50
I'm gonna say like Terminator yeah
00:33:55
uh um the not like the creature from um
00:34:00
close it was uh it was Jim Cameron's
00:34:03
water movie oh I remember that the abyss
00:34:06
yeah I got it that was pretty good that
00:34:09
was good dude because I know a guy who
00:34:10
was in it Todd something yeah anyway
00:34:14
um but it was a big gamble because the
00:34:16
first of all nobody had no idea what the
00:34:18
movie was going to look like is it a
00:34:19
comedy in a way because everyone's
00:34:21
comparing it to happen Costello and it's
00:34:22
throwback to Mommy blah blah was it a
00:34:25
horror film was it was it Indiana Jones
00:34:27
was it an Adventure film was it a
00:34:29
romance was it a
00:34:40
[Music]
00:34:41
um
00:34:41
John Hannah oh yeah see oh yeah he was
00:34:44
your your guide or something yeah he was
00:34:47
her brother my brother-in-law my nerdy
00:34:49
well brother-in-law they call him
00:34:50
popcorn movies today right just fun
00:34:53
that's right what was it fun to do
00:34:54
absolutely a little bit scary a little
00:34:57
bit romantic Thrill Ride funny like I
00:34:59
want to do it again yeah do you get hurt
00:35:02
ever not on that one just my feelings
00:35:08
one reason or another
00:35:10
wait how are you with reading reviews
00:35:13
throughout your career did you get uh
00:35:15
iron uh ding by it or I'm terribly
00:35:19
sensitive if anything says anything
00:35:20
slightly negative early on it was
00:35:23
um you wanna
00:35:25
slap me in my bulbous face says some
00:35:28
writer in Portland Oregon I thought
00:35:31
that's fighting words I'm gonna come
00:35:32
find you bro but it's hard to not take
00:35:35
stuff like that personally yeah but I
00:35:38
would always feel like
00:35:40
um
00:35:40
I would root around and look for the
00:35:42
good ones but I didn't know if they held
00:35:44
any currency sift through yeah I get
00:35:46
hurt by Instagram comments on social
00:35:49
media are you crazy yeah a painful
00:35:51
indeed is vindictive speech is a theme
00:35:53
of the whale say that again painful
00:35:56
indeed is vindictive speech
00:35:59
I saw that on a plaque outside of a
00:36:01
temple and Thailand years ago in front
00:36:03
of a giant golden recluse well earlier
00:36:05
in your career if you get something
00:36:07
negative it can affect your career and
00:36:09
you know it and then later
00:36:11
when you've gone through some stuff it's
00:36:13
a little if you're if you feel a little
00:36:14
more resilient
00:36:16
you know you can withstand the storm but
00:36:18
if if early on you do something and
00:36:20
people
00:36:21
are negative or Rotten Tomatoes or all
00:36:23
that it just it's such a wispy
00:36:25
career where it could just wind blow
00:36:27
away from you and you're like wait I'm a
00:36:28
big deal I think it's worse when you've
00:36:30
had some success and then you get dinged
00:36:32
and they use that success you can
00:36:34
juxtapose how you're not successful
00:36:36
anymore because I've had my trails with
00:36:38
that but then I you kind of go back to
00:36:41
you know Tom Hanks said there's no
00:36:43
crying in baseball there's no being
00:36:45
bitter in show business because the
00:36:47
entire thing is designed to make you
00:36:49
better I met so Mickey Rooney was the
00:36:51
most bitter man I've ever made I was the
00:36:54
number one star in the world you hear me
00:36:56
bang the world you know so I knew early
00:36:58
on okay everything is about Showbiz is
00:37:01
designed to make you feel better so I'm
00:37:03
gonna choose either to pretend or just
00:37:05
remember that we're privileged that we
00:37:08
we paid a dollar to do this let's do
00:37:10
this yeah that's they're up it's like
00:37:12
they're paying me to do this that's how
00:37:13
I failed early on because I would be
00:37:15
doing this anyway even if you didn't
00:37:16
because I didn't know else what else to
00:37:18
do Tony Randall told me that did he we
00:37:20
get paid to do this and he was like 85
00:37:23
of this yeah never lost the Wonder in
00:37:24
all of that that's why I like people do
00:37:27
regular jobs because I go we need them I
00:37:29
can't do it I can't do Jack's
00:37:31
agreed and I appreciate it I was a
00:37:33
busboy got fired three times
00:37:36
um but in in the mummy
00:37:37
first of all the mummy looked fun like
00:37:40
you said it was fun but doing stunts you
00:37:43
must have had to do some in the Mommy
00:37:44
and then you said you got choked out
00:37:46
pretty good on like day two or three
00:37:48
there was a hanging sequence and hanging
00:37:51
from the neck
00:37:52
no I'm out well didn't they have you in
00:37:55
a harness and you know they didn't
00:37:57
because they were trying to get the shot
00:37:59
before lunch that's what happens scene
00:38:02
and you blacked out did they fire the
00:38:05
stunt coordinator no he was too
00:38:06
important and plus I could still be
00:38:08
replaced it was early on in the schedule
00:38:11
so you know we we're running around
00:38:13
going we still have jobs we do but you
00:38:15
know we could be replaced Hannah was
00:38:16
like that all the time like well no I
00:38:19
can't believe it don't tell them they'll
00:38:21
send me back law school I don't know
00:38:22
what I'm doing oh I still got a job they
00:38:24
can't fire me now it let's do this
00:38:27
you can't you can't it's hard to
00:38:29
complain on the set you don't want to be
00:38:30
a complainer I got choked out because
00:38:33
the Rope was on my neck Stephen said hey
00:38:36
it's a medium shot uh um it doesn't look
00:38:38
like you're hanging because they already
00:38:40
shot the Y to the stunt man in the
00:38:41
harness and he went bang it looked great
00:38:43
you know we need a moment and then they
00:38:45
go in on the coverage of Rick choking
00:38:47
choking did one shot came in and he said
00:38:49
hey um look it doesn't really look like
00:38:51
you're you know
00:38:52
dying can you really like dial it up and
00:38:56
all right I didn't like what was
00:38:57
happening anyway so we went for another
00:38:59
take and I remember watching the camera
00:39:02
was on tripod came around there's a guy
00:39:04
screaming off camera and I remember look
00:39:06
I could see the matte box and I thought
00:39:08
okay I'm Really Gonna sell the hell out
00:39:09
of this and I made up what would really
00:39:12
make me look like I'm choking like I'd
00:39:13
been asked so I huffed air really hard
00:39:15
and started hyperventilating and held my
00:39:16
breath so I thought I won't get really
00:39:18
big red veins popping out of my eyeballs
00:39:19
and all that this is
00:39:21
just thing you could do if you're right
00:39:23
these are being choked off and the guy
00:39:26
holding the Rope above me on the
00:39:27
scaffolding was the stunt man and he
00:39:30
brought up the tension and I was on my
00:39:33
own feet on your toes on my toes and I
00:39:35
had nowhere to go unless I was a
00:39:37
ballerina and uh and I I don't all I
00:39:40
remember seeing is the map Box come
00:39:42
around and then it was like you went
00:39:45
black and Iris closed like someone
00:39:47
turned the dial down like and the next
00:39:49
thing I knew
00:39:51
there is a British voice going Brendan
00:39:55
Brendan
00:39:57
and there was dirt in my ear and in my
00:40:00
teeth and it felt like my elbow is
00:40:01
behind my head and the world was
00:40:03
sideways I didn't understand it and my
00:40:05
shin really hurt and everyone was quiet
00:40:09
as a drop of pin forget it they were
00:40:11
screaming their heads on moments ago
00:40:14
earlier uh what just happened and it
00:40:16
kind of dawned on me that these guys are
00:40:18
medics they're trying to wake me up
00:40:20
everyone's looking at me it was um while
00:40:24
it didn't hurt per se it frightened me
00:40:27
more than anything else and I didn't
00:40:28
like having that feeling of you know
00:40:31
being the Fallen team player when it
00:40:33
happens in hockey or football or
00:40:34
something everyone gets quiet yeah yeah
00:40:36
and I kind of had this emotional
00:40:38
reaction like yeah he did something
00:40:40
wrong or I didn't know that's dead
00:40:42
silence Simon runs over to me and he
00:40:46
goes all right man cool uh
00:40:49
you're in the club same thing happened
00:40:51
ml Gibson on Braveheart
00:40:55
I want to go home
00:40:58
initial here press hard four copies we
00:41:01
won't Sue all right oh I passed out he
00:41:05
was a great he is a great stunt car he
00:41:06
went and he did a lot of really good
00:41:07
stuff that we've all never heard I've
00:41:09
never heard of someone having that
00:41:10
experience that would well apparently
00:41:12
Mel Gibson did on a Braveheart like I
00:41:14
wanted you said let's do it again
00:41:17
that's my bad male gifts how is Mel
00:41:20
Gibson
00:41:21
Australian accents are difficult that
00:41:23
was that was Keith Urban
00:41:27
[Music]
00:41:29
okay now I just want to touch on we're
00:41:32
making our way toward the whale yeah we
00:41:34
are which is great I just wanna my wife
00:41:37
and I were watching
00:41:39
the the affair on Showtime oh yeah which
00:41:42
I think is a really really great show
00:41:44
and then you come on for season three
00:41:46
yes and it's it's a precursor to your
00:41:50
skill well or whatever you've done
00:41:52
throughout your career because think you
00:41:53
must have got a lot of heat for that
00:41:55
character Gunther this damaged uh
00:41:59
sadistic prison guard and all of a
00:42:01
sudden there's Brendan doing his thing
00:42:04
so I it really stood out for me and I
00:42:06
really reckon that's Ben Fraser I mean
00:42:08
he's killing it so did you get that
00:42:10
feeling from that part the conceit for
00:42:12
that was that um he was a doppelganger
00:42:16
he was
00:42:18
the you know the bookending character
00:42:20
and it straight lifted straight out of
00:42:22
um
00:42:23
creepy German fairy tale lore the
00:42:26
doppelganger is your other half doesn't
00:42:28
necessarily have to be your twin other
00:42:31
half but looks like you and is there to
00:42:34
teach the protagonist something about
00:42:36
themselves and they're doing it through
00:42:38
the use of violence so that was Gunther
00:42:41
and that's evidenced in the rashaman
00:42:43
quality of swashman's story quality of
00:42:45
like what really happened from different
00:42:46
perspectives that the affair was
00:42:48
structured on when you would pick up
00:42:51
little clues of
00:42:53
all right uh no it's was it no yeah
00:42:56
Noah's Car Guys no yeah his car got
00:42:58
bashed into by Gunther who's trying to
00:43:00
chase him down he saw him the rear view
00:43:01
mirror but
00:43:03
he pulls over and he thought it was a
00:43:05
vision but the camera pulls back and
00:43:06
there's
00:43:07
um no damage on the bumper so did it
00:43:10
really happen or not and then buy
00:43:13
stories and
00:43:15
he gets out of jail and confronts him in
00:43:18
his own home and it turns out the guy
00:43:20
may have just been a well-meaning social
00:43:22
worker all along you know he worked in
00:43:24
the jail and want to make sure that the
00:43:26
inmates had a structured plan win there
00:43:28
if they got out and he was confronted by
00:43:30
him on his own front lawn and you should
00:43:34
be left wondering did that really happen
00:43:35
that way and I think that was the
00:43:38
Perfection of that show because they did
00:43:40
that in so many ways from retelling a
00:43:43
story from different characters
00:43:44
perspective her point of view his point
00:43:46
of view but it's interesting to me not
00:43:48
being any kind of sort of dramatically
00:43:51
trained actor is that you do all this
00:43:53
stuff prep work in your head and then
00:43:56
you just stand there as Gunther and we
00:43:59
as viewers just know A lot's going on
00:44:02
this you've you're gone and this guy has
00:44:04
got tons of going on so it's just
00:44:07
fun to watch thank you it's interesting
00:44:09
to pick I appreciate it different places
00:44:10
to show up too like in the affair which
00:44:12
is a hit show and then he's in there
00:44:14
just well that's why you never went away
00:44:17
there's always these you're showing up
00:44:19
and really kind of high quality stuff
00:44:22
throughout the what do you call it the
00:44:24
post knots
00:44:27
around there yeah yeah so I did take a
00:44:30
step back to slow down my life had taken
00:44:32
a different path at that point too I had
00:44:34
had kids some I moved across the country
00:44:39
um there's some legal action in my life
00:44:41
personally speaking and that you know
00:44:44
for better or worse it's something you
00:44:45
must contend with and it takes your
00:44:47
focus away from what your aspirations
00:44:49
professionally are but you'd go mad if
00:44:52
he didn't have a job right so I always
00:44:54
had something to do whether it was with
00:44:57
the affair or some other project and and
00:45:00
also
00:45:02
I don't know if I could have maintained
00:45:04
the level of expected success that I had
00:45:07
had up until that point because you fall
00:45:10
out of favor if your film doesn't reach
00:45:12
or no in magical number or something
00:45:15
like that and you don't know what the
00:45:16
rules are you don't know if you've been
00:45:17
fired or you just won't be rehired yeah
00:45:19
so you got to take it in control of
00:45:21
yourself being someone who had a botch
00:45:24
bypass and had career difficulties you
00:45:26
know so I just wonder how you process
00:45:28
that period of not needing to go and do
00:45:31
it personally but it's sort of on record
00:45:33
that you had troubles and various things
00:45:35
same with other people how do you does
00:45:39
it how does it affect you now you look
00:45:40
back at hey Brent you know were you
00:45:42
proud of you were courageous you made
00:45:43
the right choice for everything that
00:45:45
happened the way that it did because I
00:45:47
couldn't be the individual who I am now
00:45:49
without having gone through the paces
00:45:52
that way before if this kind of
00:45:54
acknowledgment that I'm seeing receiving
00:45:56
right now it happened 20 years ago I
00:46:00
wouldn't have been able to I wouldn't
00:46:01
have had
00:46:03
emotional man tool belts of psyche to
00:46:08
deal with it I do now because I have a
00:46:11
context I know why I do this it's
00:46:13
because I've got kids now and that just
00:46:16
chemically changes everything that you
00:46:17
every choice you make it's it gives it a
00:46:20
oh that's the reason why the rest of it
00:46:22
was just about desperation and fun and
00:46:25
trying to stay with us I think that's
00:46:27
where I'm at a trend desperation is fun
00:46:28
or staying with a trend that was that's
00:46:30
the title of his Showtime special
00:46:33
I took Brandon to find a good title for
00:46:36
me that's it
00:46:37
so yeah it's sort of like your own
00:46:39
mortality or you know knowing putting
00:46:42
your kids first in your brain all the
00:46:43
time and for me when I did that too yeah
00:46:45
well I was like oh you can really check
00:46:48
out here at any time you know so I was
00:46:51
like oh please can I get to 60.
00:46:54
because some checkout meeting you yeah
00:46:56
because my issues were at 42 I'm perfect
00:46:58
now never had a heart attack that's all
00:47:00
it's in my book
00:47:01
um it's called Dana and you look
00:47:03
fantastic you look really healthy you
00:47:05
look hot uh thank you uh I know anyway
00:47:10
but I was curious about that and that
00:47:12
makes total sense and so you're you're
00:47:15
back at the table in a way and you're
00:47:18
saying it makes sense all this
00:47:20
emotionality went through in this whole
00:47:22
trajectory you're able to actually grasp
00:47:24
it because I got an Emmy once and Bob
00:47:25
Hope handed it to me wow and I wasn't
00:47:27
really there just you had another body
00:47:30
experience with him I had a body but I
00:47:32
couldn't really me and Emmy I'm just
00:47:34
from you're like am I the good guy
00:47:36
that's supposed to get an Emmy right now
00:47:37
when I look at her one's so great yeah
00:47:38
when I was on the cover of Rolling Stone
00:47:40
I felt nothing I just like I didn't I
00:47:42
couldn't grasp it I'm just saying that
00:47:44
you got that a little more because it
00:47:45
kind of happened to me a little bit last
00:47:46
night oh yeah the critics were you know
00:47:50
kind of no
00:47:51
um yeah well can I can I say one thing
00:47:55
about that thing offense again I just by
00:47:57
accident because he he was kind of doing
00:47:59
TV movies yeah you know and then he read
00:48:02
the script to this will take very fast
00:48:04
Hannibal Lecter whatever science the
00:48:06
Lambs and he put it down after five
00:48:07
pages he said I didn't want to read
00:48:08
anymore because I might not get the part
00:48:10
because it was so perfect wow and he
00:48:13
thought he's he would think to say what
00:48:14
would it be like to be in a big
00:48:15
Hollywood film well that must be amazing
00:48:18
so he does Hannibal Lecter wins the
00:48:21
Oscar he's in Times Square he looks up
00:48:24
Silence of the Lambs Anthony Hopkins
00:48:27
lying around the block and he says and I
00:48:29
felt nothing oh
00:48:32
so it's hard you're out of body in a way
00:48:35
you're all these Awards you're getting
00:48:37
and 10 minutes to Innovations I would
00:48:40
find it to grasp it you feel like you're
00:48:43
in a fever dream or something or
00:48:44
sometimes but that's just my own
00:48:46
insecurity coming to take over me and
00:48:48
the best advice I'm getting from friends
00:48:50
and family and all that is just stay in
00:48:51
your own boots just take the moment in
00:48:54
and I know that has value because
00:48:58
I couldn't appreciate that stuff earlier
00:49:00
on I can now well I think that for all
00:49:03
of us because you know I'll cry in my
00:49:05
car sometimes just like for a minute you
00:49:07
know when just things overwhelm you and
00:49:09
David is there usually at the same time
00:49:12
no but so when you're that raw with
00:49:15
people and it's so authentic I know
00:49:18
that's such a cliche word now it touches
00:49:20
all of us yeah because we're feeling the
00:49:22
weight of it you can't watch your
00:49:24
acceptance speech and I couldn't by the
00:49:27
end of the whale too it was just so
00:49:29
overwhelming and this so whatever
00:49:31
doesn't you went through maybe informed
00:49:34
you to bring us these gifts it has to
00:49:37
have kind of add value or gotten into
00:49:39
your body and and the whale was shot
00:49:42
during time of covet also so you know
00:49:45
this it was Tiny set two-bedroom
00:49:47
apartment we rehearsed on a sound stage
00:49:50
of the taped out floor for one-to-one
00:49:51
model so we really knew our jobs pretty
00:49:53
well so one-to-one model so it's like
00:49:55
exactly exactly what this is like you
00:49:57
would rehearse a play for instance
00:49:58
Darren wouldn't even let us cross the
00:50:00
tape we had to use the entrance oh taped
00:50:02
out entrance like there's a wall there
00:50:04
yeah either walk into the wall don't
00:50:05
cross the day Darren oronsky Aaron
00:50:08
officer Aaron him too I'm not good I
00:50:11
went to state school I'm not we're from
00:50:13
Montana you know we don't put two and
00:50:15
two together too easily um
00:50:19
Brendan Frazier's here I always thought
00:50:22
just to touch on what you just said
00:50:25
it would be harder to me I think if you
00:50:28
were on friends it's like a show like
00:50:30
that the first thing out of the gate is
00:50:32
so huge yeah and you don't realize it's
00:50:36
not it might not be like that anymore
00:50:37
how do you follow that and how do you
00:50:39
follow it must screw with your head and
00:50:41
when you get like one line in something
00:50:43
and then you get this and you sort of go
00:50:45
up and have everyone has career ups and
00:50:47
downs that you do appreciate when it's
00:50:50
going good because you go it can go away
00:50:52
you didn't know before but now I still
00:50:53
feel like someone's gonna walk in the
00:50:54
door and accuse me of fraud basically
00:50:58
and I have a what uh imposter syndrome
00:51:01
like I feel you feel like I should be
00:51:03
feeling something I guess it's normal
00:51:04
Jimmy Stewart and Henry Fonda said they
00:51:06
are well that's it every movie they
00:51:09
haven't found me out yet yeah yeah yeah
00:51:11
yeah and I won't even do the impression
00:51:13
I guess we're right on schedule then
00:51:15
guys
00:51:16
we're yeah I I
00:51:20
David tell tell him now listen people on
00:51:24
this the whale got a
00:51:26
12-week Standing Ovation by the way I
00:51:30
will say it's funny when I hear like a
00:51:32
three-minute standing ovation and six
00:51:34
until I go what are these people doing
00:51:35
do they bring a lunch because they're
00:51:37
clapping on are you sitting down because
00:51:39
I loved it but I I have to go to the
00:51:41
valet now like
00:51:42
yourself
00:51:46
are you done I get it you liked it now
00:51:50
my feet are hurting I was trying to
00:51:52
leave the theater when we and I thought
00:51:54
we're almost out of the doors in Venice
00:51:56
and Darren's like no I'll get back take
00:51:57
a bow I think really all right fine so I
00:51:59
did I took it back it wasn't but what
00:52:01
you don't see is I was looking at 1200
00:52:04
people and they're all crying in their
00:52:06
Italian and stuffing they're doing this
00:52:09
side you can't nut so was that a moment
00:52:11
I was just curious about this when I see
00:52:13
that like you you do the movie so
00:52:15
everyone's starting to get you hyped up
00:52:16
I gotta admit hey you're you're awesome
00:52:19
at this thank you right it's starting to
00:52:21
happen but then when you show it to an
00:52:23
audience and you get that kind of
00:52:24
response
00:52:25
then okay
00:52:27
it's as great as people are telling me
00:52:29
right and so that see why that would be
00:52:31
a Water Works moment maybe even more
00:52:34
than because it's proof they actually
00:52:35
like it it's not just some agent or
00:52:37
somebody telling you that it's good
00:52:38
you're great are you having a sense
00:52:40
memory right now I was just
00:52:42
um no no yeah because that no wait I am
00:52:45
now now yeah because it feels like that
00:52:47
would be the first what was the first
00:52:49
one that you showed it to where you were
00:52:51
with the audience and they just Venice
00:52:54
1200 seat theater I don't have the
00:52:56
number of seats but there were many many
00:52:57
many and you have no idea how it's gonna
00:52:59
go
00:52:59
I know that I've seen it I know that
00:53:02
after you finish watching this film The
00:53:03
Credits roll and people are still rooted
00:53:06
to the spot and I don't say that in the
00:53:07
same kind of like blown smoke kind of
00:53:09
way agent's going we loved it man this
00:53:12
one's legit I was the whole time just
00:53:15
riveting I felt like I needed to
00:53:17
reconnect a few sockets and cables after
00:53:20
I saw and I'm in the thing you know it's
00:53:22
not uh it doesn't let up
00:53:25
um your daughter is wonderful Sadie
00:53:27
Singh Sadie sink is some stranger things
00:53:30
you and her together is that energy is
00:53:34
Magic the two she came in coming in hot
00:53:37
and she did not let up she was tough too
00:53:40
she was tough the estranged daughter
00:53:42
she's first thing Sadie is a genuine
00:53:44
article I watched this kid winning the
00:53:46
game ball every single day at a front
00:53:48
row seat she her Talent presages her
00:53:52
years I don't like where'd you come from
00:53:54
and she um
00:53:57
is this Darren describes her she's like
00:54:00
a jewel you look at it one way it's
00:54:01
interesting and new and beautiful and
00:54:02
all that there's something a new facet
00:54:05
and
00:54:06
she was just consistent a stone cold
00:54:09
professional in her um approach just
00:54:13
always gold star performance I could say
00:54:15
nice things for the rest of her time
00:54:16
here but Sadie
00:54:18
um
00:54:19
is also a young woman who has a big
00:54:22
family her father is uh a football coach
00:54:25
he's got a handshake on him like
00:54:29
like gripping a handful of channel lock
00:54:31
pliers are you a stone Mason like ouch
00:54:35
and it's just him introducing himself
00:54:38
um so she comes from a real strong
00:54:40
family and uh she
00:54:43
um has this gift it has to be her
00:54:46
approach to playing this part was
00:54:48
and I saw it it's she never went in for
00:54:52
the Trope of an angsty teenager she
00:54:54
understood that this girl is talented as
00:54:58
a character but doesn't know it yet she
00:55:01
has a lot of
00:55:02
understandable rage that comes from her
00:55:06
heart Charlie did something that really
00:55:08
really wounded this kid and he didn't
00:55:11
have to pay the bill on it until it
00:55:13
confronts him and lifestyle you invited
00:55:15
the building exactly so she comes back
00:55:18
and she's she's demanding oh yeah to get
00:55:22
what she needs Sadie's um focus on that
00:55:25
was
00:55:27
never to crack never to crack never to
00:55:29
crack until the moment
00:55:32
when the spell gets broken in a way when
00:55:35
he finally
00:55:36
crests his mouth kill them in jarrow of
00:55:39
making his apology to her and come see
00:55:43
the film but you know that's that's the
00:55:45
moment I'm just thinking about that part
00:55:46
because first of all I'll watch you from
00:55:48
different eyes my dad left when I was
00:55:51
four and my brothers were six and eight
00:55:53
so and he didn't come around and then he
00:55:56
came back later and he wanted to he
00:55:58
didn't really want to make up he just
00:55:59
came around and so I was the one sort of
00:56:01
pushing
00:56:02
the reconciliation you know just because
00:56:05
you don't have your dad and so there was
00:56:07
themes in that movie that hit me in
00:56:10
different ways and also just the fact
00:56:11
that it is just a very well crafted well
00:56:14
and the woman takes care of you Liz I
00:56:16
think is her name
00:56:18
yeah she was a magic as well in movies
00:56:22
that are brilliant that are great and I
00:56:23
give it up to the writer director and
00:56:25
all the performers Samuel you can't
00:56:27
imagine anyone else playing no any other
00:56:30
part no that's one a great movie that's
00:56:32
always the sign of it no one else could
00:56:34
have done what you did she hung I
00:56:36
believe that character should have its
00:56:38
own movie I want to know who who Liz was
00:56:41
at work and her other life because she
00:56:43
just becomes such a likeable character
00:56:45
and there's more that Hong can say in
00:56:49
between the lines in the pauses and the
00:56:52
silences than any of the dialogue she's
00:56:53
speaking just by her face and how she
00:56:56
drinks in who she's speaking to almost
00:56:59
as if like she's listening with her
00:57:00
pores or something well there's parts
00:57:02
there and you can always tell us to cut
00:57:04
something out if it feels like it's too
00:57:05
much but remember the part Dana we're at
00:57:08
she's talking about her truck and it's
00:57:11
such a
00:57:12
curveball like you're getting it from
00:57:13
all sides and it's just like oh my God
00:57:15
what a mess
00:57:17
ah that was tough to take all that so
00:57:21
listen it got me I kept starting and
00:57:23
stopping it because I had to like
00:57:25
gather myself Brendan I'm a comedic
00:57:28
performer I was doing sold out shows
00:57:30
other people's words
00:57:31
and uh big theaters and uh it was hard
00:57:35
to regain the funny bone
00:57:38
but like you very talented and I got
00:57:43
through it Dana I just want to ask uh
00:57:46
because I I'm fascinated uh how great
00:57:48
movies get made I remember asking Joe
00:57:50
Pesci once do you know when it's great
00:57:53
yeah how do you do it I mean what did he
00:57:56
answer he goes hey you just you lock in
00:57:59
that's how you do it you just
00:58:00
lock in you know he said something once
00:58:03
that I knew he'd done he goes yeah
00:58:05
sometimes some guys don't want to fight
00:58:07
you know what I say sugar bowl across
00:58:10
the nose and you could tell he's done
00:58:12
that move he's only he's not a big guy
00:58:14
but it doesn't matter but he says you
00:58:16
lock in so for me when you're when
00:58:19
you're shooting the whale how does
00:58:21
Darren approach that so he's like he's
00:58:23
got these diamond gems you're in your
00:58:28
you're you're just so locked in uh does
00:58:32
he does he do you a lot of takes you ask
00:58:33
for more takes is he is he he likes to
00:58:35
shoot a lot of takes and you know and
00:58:37
that's okay with you look we're all
00:58:39
there once anyway you know we knew like
00:58:42
I said we knew our jobs from the
00:58:43
rehearsal process so you made your
00:58:45
discoveries and yeah your bonding made
00:58:47
your mistakes before you walk up and
00:58:48
said you're just a bunch of actors
00:58:49
showing up going hey you know it would
00:58:51
be really cool and looking at the sides
00:58:52
every morning no we knew how to play the
00:58:55
music yes precisely and for that
00:59:00
each uh each take because it's a tiny
00:59:04
set it's a two bedroom apartment we're
00:59:05
like a submarine crew on top of each
00:59:06
other and because of the just the
00:59:08
exigencies of playing that character and
00:59:12
I I'm wearing a great deal of makeup and
00:59:15
apparatus and costuming and harnessing
00:59:17
and
00:59:19
you know whether it was a man whose body
00:59:22
is big like Charlie's or if I was in an
00:59:25
alien costume or something they're
00:59:27
really kind of the same approach it's
00:59:28
suit performing you know and
00:59:32
so I think you know we're here let's
00:59:34
just keep doing it again Darren he he
00:59:37
would just keep shooting me we were also
00:59:38
shooting like everyone does now on
00:59:40
digital so there's no more film there's
00:59:41
no magazine to change just keep going
00:59:43
it's like a light switch just you're not
00:59:44
and you can do them on a loop and if
00:59:46
something's off on a take just back up
00:59:48
the camera and go again and
00:59:51
I think that would get him a lot of
00:59:53
variety and
00:59:55
um but in Hong's case he would just kind
00:59:57
of go okay well we already got it
01:00:00
um you know what just show off impress
01:00:03
me he loved her so much
01:00:05
it it it it was um it wasn't you would
01:00:10
you would you would try and it was
01:00:11
really finessing of many takes to find
01:00:13
out what's the best way to do it he was
01:00:15
never shooting for variety with me at
01:00:17
least and you could almost do it
01:00:19
different ways like you there's
01:00:20
different colors and layers in each take
01:00:22
and you're like he's got to go back and
01:00:24
pick which is the best one because
01:00:25
sometimes I think that was a good one
01:00:27
the next one you go that was good at the
01:00:28
beginning
01:00:29
oh we nailed that part you know on
01:00:31
different movies but this this one I'm
01:00:33
sure he's got in his head what he wants
01:00:35
it's hard it would be hard with that
01:00:38
emotion which is a lot of your stuff and
01:00:40
humor it's very emotional to get through
01:00:43
take after take you know that would be
01:00:45
harder for me because you have to say
01:00:48
one day at a time I think you know you
01:00:50
eat an elephant one bite at a time
01:00:52
um at least it was in one location was
01:00:55
kind of nice where was it we shot in
01:00:57
Newburgh New York um across the mighty
01:01:00
mighty Hudson it was frozen in that time
01:01:03
of year so cold there in a Motorcycle
01:01:05
Museum and the lower half and I'm sure
01:01:08
you've said this on press junkets but so
01:01:10
it was three hours in probably and three
01:01:12
hours out four oh and how many to get
01:01:15
out an hour
01:01:17
but that's okay shoot for 12 minutes a
01:01:19
day I I actually I had a guy Kevin
01:01:21
Jaeger who's brilliant on this a very
01:01:23
goofy movie no one saw a master disguise
01:01:25
the lovemaster of this kind hey wait a
01:01:28
minute let me get a can I record this
01:01:31
guy
01:01:35
it was very very silly but he did he
01:01:38
yeah like eight hours with me sometimes
01:01:40
eight
01:01:42
honest yeah and what which character uh
01:01:46
do you remember well it was the turtle
01:01:47
man I I get well I'd get there at 3 30
01:01:49
or 4 sometimes he would spray tobacco
01:01:52
very detailed on my hands and stuff was
01:01:54
he built what are they putting
01:01:55
appliances on you appliances on when I
01:01:58
did
01:01:59
um
01:01:59
quit from Jaws you know Robert Shaw go
01:02:03
in the water that was a big one you know
01:02:05
to look exactly and I'm so I'm encased
01:02:08
in rubber I don't know if you had a
01:02:09
situation like I'll ask you in a second
01:02:10
and they said Barbra Streisand's here
01:02:12
today because James Brolin was playing
01:02:14
the father so I had lunch with Barbra
01:02:17
Streisand but I'm in full prosthetic
01:02:19
Robert Shaw make up the whole time there
01:02:22
was no time for me to get out so do you
01:02:24
have goofy agents or people come by
01:02:26
you're completely Charlie you're fully
01:02:28
your guy and then you're talking you're
01:02:32
in the and you're talking as Brendan
01:02:35
there was yeah there were moments of
01:02:37
that but if we weren't like in the
01:02:39
production or the family there weren't
01:02:40
many visitors anyway they're actually
01:02:41
zero because it was yeah coveted
01:02:43
restrictions and all that
01:02:45
um
01:02:46
I think I think David for May 24 came
01:02:49
around just put his head into my cooling
01:02:50
tent and say hi you know like cooling
01:02:52
tent yeah I did I had a cooling problem
01:02:54
yeah
01:02:57
um because you can't like get up and run
01:02:58
to lunch you have to I needed to be
01:03:00
wheeled the 70 or so Steps From the
01:03:02
chair or two to the chair to the side
01:03:04
yeah I won't say anything more about the
01:03:06
movie but yeah I could see that we're
01:03:07
talking about the movie The Whale yeah
01:03:10
which is uh doing very very well at box
01:03:13
office wise I've read I mean it's
01:03:16
getting a big audience for an indie film
01:03:18
it's hard to make yeah adult thoughtful
01:03:22
dramas at the moment I hope they'll turn
01:03:24
around it used to be that's all you
01:03:25
could make if you wanted to do something
01:03:27
small it was a thinky piece that went to
01:03:29
a film festival and then you hoped for
01:03:30
distribution or something like that but
01:03:32
well with streaming and all the
01:03:35
different ways to consume content after
01:03:39
after rehearsal how long did it take
01:03:40
after what after you were done with
01:03:42
rehearsals how long did it take to
01:03:43
actually shoot it I think we had like 30
01:03:45
something days not including the
01:03:46
weekends but you know 30 32 days but we
01:03:48
shot mostly chronologically which was
01:03:50
really helpful that's fun yeah
01:03:52
I wouldn't say it's a fun movie but I'd
01:03:54
say that sucks
01:03:59
[Music]
01:04:00
oh good is good I I'm wondering when the
01:04:03
first time you did the makeup test and
01:04:05
you became the character and when you
01:04:08
looked in the mirror you know obviously
01:04:10
the thing is just start to go what was
01:04:12
your reaction was it emotional almost it
01:04:15
was actually funny you should ask yeah I
01:04:17
think before well the first one the
01:04:18
first test was at the protozoa office
01:04:19
and Adrian Moreau is the designer of
01:04:21
this makeup he's brilliant and
01:04:24
um getting into it for the first time
01:04:27
you know I was Big labor to get all the
01:04:29
parts of Montreal and all that
01:04:31
and
01:04:32
Derek looked over my shoulder and he
01:04:34
said
01:04:36
for the rest of your life
01:04:40
that's what I thought what's that mean
01:04:43
and then I thought I know what you mean
01:04:44
actually because you can't really
01:04:46
Divorce Yourself from me creating this
01:04:49
character For Better or Worse okay
01:04:51
remember it yes you can be remembered
01:04:53
for something for the rest of your life
01:04:54
for any number of reasons well there's
01:04:56
never been a movie that explored people
01:04:58
suffer from obesity not in this way no I
01:05:01
was I thought about this long and hard I
01:05:03
I remember not this way yeah the closest
01:05:06
I could think of and this might be
01:05:07
reaching for it was Dom DeLuise in fatso
01:05:14
it was really emotional too yeah and and
01:05:17
I I brought I drew inspiration from John
01:05:20
Candy in Planes Trains and Automobiles
01:05:22
yeah you recall when they were in he was
01:05:25
deriding him and he says go ahead you
01:05:26
can I'm a big guy you take a shot at me
01:05:28
yeah but I like me my wife likes me I'm
01:05:32
good enough I mean and he looked like he
01:05:34
was gonna crack in that moment and he
01:05:36
probably was and that was a beautiful
01:05:37
piece of acting right there I don't
01:05:39
think we've seen that kind of
01:05:40
sensitivity attached yeah owning who you
01:05:42
are when you live in a larger body like
01:05:44
that yeah and I I love that he was a
01:05:46
college professor you know and and there
01:05:49
was a heartache always underneath almost
01:05:52
the entire it was just there you didn't
01:05:54
have to play it even you were being
01:05:56
light like you're being light with
01:05:57
everyone you're saying I'm sorry and but
01:05:59
you know what I was all in really your
01:06:00
face so the suit kind of uh goes away
01:06:03
because you're just watching you to see
01:06:05
what's the hoop because in the absence
01:06:07
of it you know being a success with our
01:06:09
finely tuned Brands seeing makeups
01:06:11
versus CGI creations and you can tell
01:06:13
where the dotted lines are and you
01:06:16
automatically go you have to make a
01:06:17
decision about suspension of belief I'll
01:06:20
let that one slide and but with this it
01:06:22
was a straight ahead
01:06:24
analog makeup yeah with the exception of
01:06:27
maybe a light um digital Curative if
01:06:30
like a piece of fabric on your shirt it
01:06:31
was acting up in its own movie or
01:06:33
whatever that would fix that later or
01:06:34
there was a scene when on the bib sort
01:06:36
of shape or the collar when Charlie goes
01:06:38
down the hallway you go to bed he takes
01:06:39
his shirt off before and
01:06:41
you know anyway that that was the full
01:06:43
suit was very heavy and
01:06:45
um
01:06:46
you know anyway apart from that what you
01:06:47
see was what you got but if it didn't
01:06:49
work there was no movie and the rule was
01:06:52
this is a makeup and costume that will
01:06:56
obey the laws of physics and gravity
01:06:59
it um it will not be what we've seen so
01:07:05
frequently which is uh a foam Light
01:07:09
phone Halloween costume kind of
01:07:11
silhouette is that an athletic actor
01:07:13
wears and you sort of defy gravity and
01:07:14
bounce around the way and yeah you know
01:07:16
I mean that's that's a different movie
01:07:17
it's a different genre I have mixed
01:07:19
feelings about what's funny about that
01:07:20
and what's not no you look like it was
01:07:23
very belabored to do anything that guy
01:07:25
was Ill he was not well you really I
01:07:28
mean when you were wheezing and and you
01:07:31
know I felt suffocated you know I was
01:07:33
really in when he the heroic moment with
01:07:37
his daughter where he's I don't I don't
01:07:38
want to give away the ending but when he
01:07:40
gets up that was just that put me in a
01:07:42
puddle of Tears I'm I'm feeling it right
01:07:44
having the strength to get to your feet
01:07:46
yeah and do what you need someone who
01:07:49
loves his daughter so much and it's
01:07:50
impossible and he's going to do it
01:07:52
anyway and anyway you should see it
01:07:54
folks if you like great drama if you
01:07:58
like great movies my God
01:08:02
I think we should let him go on his
01:08:04
flight
01:08:06
Brandon's a very nice dude and uh on the
01:08:10
way to go to uh more stuff in London
01:08:13
anyway well on a just a another human
01:08:16
note everyone you know there's so many
01:08:18
awards
01:08:20
in our lives growing up you know you're
01:08:22
a Canadian as you can play a little yeah
01:08:24
speak French but there's the Academy
01:08:26
Awards I mean you've already nominated
01:08:28
Golden Globe You've Won Critics Choice I
01:08:31
don't know how many more they'll be but
01:08:33
do you let your mind wander to that idea
01:08:35
no I can't I don't want to get ahead of
01:08:38
myself I can't read those tea leaves any
01:08:41
better than you me or anyone can I I
01:08:43
laugh at the prognostication that goes
01:08:45
on because nobody knows nobody
01:08:48
knows anything no it's always a simple
01:08:51
introduce yourself of having the inside
01:08:53
track you do not I know nobody knows you
01:08:58
do have to keep that attitude yes you
01:09:00
know right it was Herman Melville who
01:09:02
wrote I know not all that may be coming
01:09:04
but come what will what may I will go to
01:09:08
it laughing yes I lived by that from
01:09:10
since Venice and now a few other maxims
01:09:14
and idioms along the way another one
01:09:15
being
01:09:18
foreign
01:09:20
is the parent of fear
01:09:23
it's better to know better go towards
01:09:26
the risky things that were reticent to
01:09:30
know about or learn about so they have a
01:09:32
fully formed opinion about a more
01:09:34
well-informed opinion than just ignoring
01:09:36
it and condemning it early on and
01:09:37
remaining
01:09:39
frightened yeah that's again Melville
01:09:42
1851.
01:09:44
Moby Dick exactly with Gregory Peck
01:09:47
tattoo god is a little kid was always
01:09:49
Blown Away about it did you just do
01:09:51
Gregory Peck Gregory Peck I've kissed
01:09:53
bigger lips than yours
01:09:55
I'm Gregory Peck I'm Henry Fonda I can
01:09:58
do these guys but no one knows what they
01:10:00
talk like yeah I know a lot about a gif
01:10:04
projector now you're a Polaroid Channel
01:10:06
GAF anyway I just do the voices but you
01:10:10
know those Rich Little voices those old
01:10:13
movie stars the only one you could do
01:10:15
now is Jimmy Stewart because of It's a
01:10:18
Wonderful Life kid came up to me hey you
01:10:20
did It's a Wonderful Life guy but the
01:10:22
rest are the rest are fade now they
01:10:24
don't know who they are they have no
01:10:25
friends
01:10:26
I still do Nixon in my act it seems to
01:10:30
too can we get a taste
01:10:35
is that the standard higher that's it no
01:10:38
that Nixon was a good go-to Alderman and
01:10:41
Dean they were the ones but let me down
01:10:43
that path well good luck to you I think
01:10:46
anything happens from now on as I all
01:10:47
gravy so Brendan
01:10:50
um great talking to you could I I'll
01:10:51
give you one little thing and I'll do it
01:10:55
fee five full form I smell an Oscar
01:11:00
nomination oh God sorry he's laughing
01:11:05
about it just in memory of my late
01:11:08
mother who loved the church lady because
01:11:10
she was church she was church lady oh
01:11:13
that's funny wow wow wow we're up there
01:11:16
getting our Awards aren't we we think
01:11:18
we're a little bit Superior to a little
01:11:20
man I like to call Jesus
01:11:23
we like ourselves don't we we're having
01:11:27
a good old time at the party circuit
01:11:29
where alcohol is served and the
01:11:31
there are plenty
01:11:34
uh yeah I don't know where she came from
01:11:36
but that's that's I'm I'm flattered that
01:11:40
your mom got some joy out of that
01:11:41
character and my mother-in-law's Irish
01:11:44
Catholic loves it they would have gone
01:11:46
along great they loved it no one took
01:11:49
offense to it even in the Bible Belt
01:11:51
they just loved but it's just fun to be
01:11:53
superior we like to talk on our a
01:11:55
microphone tell me David we've got a
01:11:58
podcast we feel Superior I don't know
01:12:01
but um Brandon Frazier
01:12:04
um exudes likability I'm so happy that
01:12:07
he's laughing yeah right now because
01:12:09
it's been he got me
01:12:11
David David saw a little bit we laughed
01:12:14
but so I saw the whole thing you jackass
01:12:16
the whale well just everything here when
01:12:19
we started thinking about that last
01:12:21
moment in the film it still gets me that
01:12:23
I don't want to talk about that because
01:12:25
it's part of the movie but I just always
01:12:27
gotten all across the board I kept
01:12:29
stopping because I was like oh my God
01:12:30
this is catch me off guard yeah so what
01:12:33
what can we how can we sum up we just we
01:12:35
appreciate you I mean the whole world is
01:12:37
as you know it just loves you like
01:12:39
everyone's so happy to see you it's not
01:12:42
always really nice and I know that it is
01:12:44
you've been through everything and it's
01:12:46
it's just seems well that's Show
01:12:47
Business and then there's life and it's
01:12:49
it's hard to
01:12:50
you know kind of puff yourself up at
01:12:52
this point and go hey damn right you
01:12:54
know I will never let that and it's
01:12:56
never going to happen but at least my I
01:12:59
would just hope just enjoy it as much
01:13:02
you know as much as you can I appreciate
01:13:04
it write it out yeah if people will say
01:13:06
nice things to me sometimes and I'm like
01:13:07
oh okay you're blowing up dang that's my
01:13:10
sister you're blowing up again really I
01:13:14
don't think so but so I know but for you
01:13:17
uh your training and what you've shared
01:13:20
with us about your you know quoting
01:13:22
Melville and what you're doing you know
01:13:24
I mean that's the true path like what's
01:13:26
you know what's the work you know in the
01:13:29
end of the day yeah you did this
01:13:31
brilliant piece of acting in this film
01:13:33
that's all we have thank you look I
01:13:35
summed it up all right and what I have a
01:13:37
business manager to introduce to you you
01:13:41
have any advice no he's doing good so
01:13:43
far yeah so anyway well good luck in
01:13:45
these next few weeks going through the
01:13:47
circuit and you know we only wish you
01:13:49
the best and we also really want to
01:13:51
thank you for coming on our podcast it's
01:13:52
my absolute pleasure no it's uh it's
01:13:54
it's very very flattering you got to
01:13:56
talk toward the end I thought that was a
01:13:57
big deal we tried to interrupt I said to
01:14:00
David before let's let's cut them off 50
01:14:02
of the time we don't have to coach us on
01:14:04
that no we help you is there anything
01:14:06
else you feel you want to say to the
01:14:07
world because we have a really big
01:14:09
following thank you very very much all
01:14:11
right
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01:14:19
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01:14:21
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01:14:22
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01:14:24
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01:14:36
Danny get prepped first of all pick a
01:14:39
sunglass David I'm gonna let you pick
01:14:40
for this second
01:14:42
I don't mind the little no I like those
01:14:44
bags
01:14:45
okay love the podcast the recent Farley
01:14:48
tribute was great sent me on a YouTube
01:14:49
deep dive of Farley's timing us now
01:14:52
what a legend question for David you
01:14:54
mentioned a movie you and Chris pitched
01:14:56
we're pitched shortly before we pass
01:14:58
called the tree do you remember
01:15:00
specifics yes
01:15:02
his name is Lance witchy pronounced like
01:15:05
Witchy Woman that's what he says okay
01:15:07
the tree Dana was um a movie it was
01:15:12
pretty typical of spade Farley formula
01:15:15
um I like this
01:15:17
I was I was a stiff DC political guy
01:15:24
climbing up like an assistant whatever
01:15:26
low man on the totem pole I'm getting
01:15:28
married that's a week for my wedding
01:15:30
week for Christmas or whatever after
01:15:33
Thanksgiving they say
01:15:35
they want a tree to be delivered to uh
01:15:38
you know across the country I order it
01:15:40
there's a big screw up it's my fault I
01:15:43
hear from the president himself you go
01:15:46
get the tree and bring it back make sure
01:15:47
it gets here
01:15:48
so I have to fly across country I have
01:15:50
to get back for my wedding and Farley is
01:15:52
the lumberjack that's in charge of the
01:15:54
tree and he wants to make 18 stops on
01:15:57
the way there and I don't want to so we
01:15:58
fight along the way and sort of a good
01:16:00
device kind of like train transplants
01:16:02
and automobile like two Misfits on a
01:16:05
journey is that script still around it
01:16:07
might be I is on a journey yeah I'm up
01:16:12
for Journeys and uh Melissa McCarthy I
01:16:16
thought might be funny at one time for
01:16:17
that but it just sort of went away we
01:16:20
both had read it we had done you know we
01:16:22
just done two
01:16:24
so we thought let's give it a breather
01:16:25
but at the end we were like you know the
01:16:28
tree was pretty funny we could probably
01:16:29
shape that or get somebody on that so
01:16:32
anyway it didn't work out
01:16:33
um but uh that was kind of what it was I
01:16:36
never asked you this but what was the
01:16:38
difference you think in terms of like
01:16:40
Black Sheep versus Tommy Boy and nothing
01:16:44
oh I mean did you sense that maybe Black
01:16:47
Sheep wasn't because Wayne's World 2
01:16:49
didn't do as good as Wayne's World one
01:16:51
but well the problem there was Tommy Boy
01:16:53
the quick story is uh which we're not
01:16:55
good at quick stories but it um it sort
01:16:58
of fell into place
01:16:59
Pete Siegel's director of Fred Wolf is
01:17:01
on the set we're just adding jokes we're
01:17:02
just all screwing around so yeah it was
01:17:04
light and easy and then the pressure in
01:17:05
the second one second one we got your
01:17:07
director
01:17:08
um from Wayne's World no Libby she's
01:17:10
good and she didn't want me in Black
01:17:13
Sheep so
01:17:14
and she's admitted this she said I
01:17:16
wasn't good and she didn't like me and
01:17:18
Tommy Boy and she said she just went to
01:17:20
a movie with Chris so she would do this
01:17:21
movie oh well when the yeah and that's
01:17:23
when it's and she took 40 pages out of
01:17:25
the script that Fred wrote and we all
01:17:27
chipped in on so
01:17:29
we were more separated the movie and it
01:17:31
wasn't as fun back and forth I still
01:17:33
like Black Sheep but uh I'm not here to
01:17:35
hammer her down um I'm just saying no
01:17:37
I'm sure that's what it turned into I
01:17:39
didn't mean to bring up something
01:17:40
negative I would just say that I think I
01:17:41
better go budgets are also David if I
01:17:44
could for a moment yeah budgets are also
01:17:46
can be the enemy of Comedy like so the
01:17:48
first movie they threw Mike and I as
01:17:50
Wayne and Garth on the hood of the car
01:17:51
and we're going did you ever be
01:17:53
attracted to Bugs Bunny or whatever and
01:17:55
it was like took 20 minutes yeah do you
01:17:58
ever yeah it wasn't over thought if she
01:18:00
she's a babe if she were present she'd
01:18:02
be Abraham Lincoln so it was just one
01:18:04
Tech go away second movie it was like a
01:18:06
three-day shoot multiple cameras around
01:18:08
that car for our CGI sucking and
01:18:11
squeezing the life out of it so anyway
01:18:13
no one's fault and a lot more pressure a
01:18:16
lot of more Cooks more pressure
01:18:18
could be funny yeah over thought over
01:18:21
tested um and so I still liked a lot of
01:18:24
black sheep and Chris was definitely
01:18:26
funny in it but and there's some funny
01:18:27
parts
01:18:28
um Penelope did add one thing I have to
01:18:30
give her where we were in bunk beds and
01:18:32
when she said I'm gonna do this thing
01:18:34
where he falls on you and I go we didn't
01:18:35
shoot that knee she goes I did it with a
01:18:37
camera trick and when I saw it I was
01:18:39
like there's no way I would even
01:18:40
know that was a camera trick it looks so
01:18:42
real and so reverse I will give her that
01:18:45
that was very funny and um yeah great
01:18:47
additional joke uh which is what you're
01:18:50
killing for in those movies just get a
01:18:51
house laugh so uh that's it and um thank
01:18:55
you for asking
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