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Jay Leno on Stand-Up, Bombing, and the Lessons he Learned From Richard Pryor | Fly on the Wall

March 29, 2023 / 03:35

This episode features discussions on resilience in comedy, the importance of discipline, and the evolution of stand-up. Guests share experiences of bombing on stage, the pressure of following great comedians, and the necessity of refining material.

The conversation highlights the personal journey of a comedian who faced setbacks, including a significant audition for SNL. They reflect on the emotional toll of failure and the need for self-improvement.

Key figures mentioned include Richard Pryor and Robin Williams, with insights on how their performances set high standards for upcoming comedians. The guest emphasizes the importance of delivering tight, funny material.

There is a critique of current comedy trends, with a belief that many comedians lack the discipline to discard ineffective material. The guest argues that comedy should be treated as an art form requiring constant refinement.

The episode concludes with a discussion on the changing landscape of comedy and the challenges faced by new comedians today compared to earlier eras.

TL;DR

Comedians discuss resilience, discipline, and evolving standards in stand-up comedy.

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so when you get dinged uh whatever like
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things didn't work and or bombing at
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clubs or it seems to me you'd have a lot
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of resilience or things you'd say to
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yourself or was it I mean because I got
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hurt when I bombed auditioning for SNL I
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followed Kennison in 83 at The Comedy
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Store all right horrible bomb and I got
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oh that was my shot so I was kind of I
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mean I was functional but I was down for
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a couple months I'm a huge believer in
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low self-esteem
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no it's it's a cute line I know it is
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it's a key to success because if you
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don't think you have the smartest person
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there you're always trying oh yeah
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that's me if I see some I mean I know so
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many comics
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they did it the bit worked in Denver two
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years ago and they've been doing it ever
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since and then they'll go no I did this
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in Denver I know it only worked once
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yeah I've seen you do it five it doesn't
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work anymore get rid of it they cannot
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get rid of material get thrown
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everything is not funny you know that's
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why I followed prior every night and
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when when Richie was I mean we called
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him Richie prior tonight no it's like
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how crazy Richard Pryor yeah and and he
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was great I mean he was the best no
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really clever and I said to Mitzi can I
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go on after prior every night and she
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said yeah because nobody wanted the spot
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and I realized I didn't have 45 minutes
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I had 18 minutes but I it was the
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tightest 18 minutes because this
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audience had been listening to Prior and
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it was just so I just did the funniest
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stuff I had and I threw everything else
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away and you just have to have that
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discipline to do that I mean so many
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guys go up and they just screw around
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you're there to work you have 20 minutes
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work come up with stuff try new material
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you know make get tighter throw out
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every word that's not funny and just
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tighten it look I have an idea for you
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yeah we one of our sponsors yeah is
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Master Class
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oh he should teach you master's class
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and and Steve Martin's on one people
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done one but you have a very specific
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point of view that's really really
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uh would be would help people have
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talent and discipline well yeah I mean
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to me Seinfeld and I have this
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discussion all the time uh
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it's an art form you need to be a
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specific tight you're not up there to
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school I know somebody they just get up
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and they screw around and they think
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that that's funny I Gotta Laugh yeah but
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you had this two minute every six to
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nine seconds you should get a laugh I
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love that that's about right wouldn't
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you say I would say yeah it should yeah
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like six laps a minute or more but
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you're getting a laugh every six to nine
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seconds because maybe it's not a joke
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but it's a funny impression or it's a
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funny manner I wanted to roll I came
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from watching Rob Williams yeah and he
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was the one like would do his thing and
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come back to San Francisco I thought I
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have work to do right yeah it's like I'm
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going if that is the standard I have a
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lot more work right exactly yeah that's
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all yeah it's amazing how lazy people
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are when I started in Arizona
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there was uh as I said to Colin Quinn I
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go I started and there's no comedy scene
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he goes is there one now I go oh I guess
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not really but in Arizona you know no
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one was doing stand-up when I started
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yeah so you had to really want to do it
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because I think now it's kind of cooler
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it's a bigger deal you see people
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playing theaters Arenas so more people
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gravitate to that and they just do
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whatever I always remember a comic said
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to me he said well you and Seinfeld you
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guys are lucky you started during the
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Golden Age of Comedy when everything was
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funny now now there's no golden age of
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Comedy shut up idiot yeah as if anybody
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has a free pass you and Seinfeld rose up
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because you were killing had to be good

Episode Highlights

  • The Discipline of Comedy
    Discipline is key in stand-up; throw out everything that’s not funny.
    “You just have to have that discipline to do that.”
    @ 01m 28s
    March 29, 2023
  • The Golden Age of Comedy
    Reflecting on the past, some believe comedy was easier back then.
    “You and Seinfeld rose up because you were killing; had to be good.”
    @ 03m 32s
    March 29, 2023

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Key Moments

  • Resilience in Comedy00:06
  • Discipline Required01:28
  • Golden Age Debate03:22

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