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No matter what you choose, choose love.
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It's a long leather jacket that makes me
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where I am today.
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>> You know, in those days when Brian
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called to say, "Hello, Ringer. Would you
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join the Beatles?" I said, "Yeah." You
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know, and I come from very early
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country. Yeah.
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>> And you know, there was like the wife's
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left, the dog said, "Or don't have
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enough money for the jukebox." You know,
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>> David, it's your life.
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>> It's from my book.
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>> Yeah.
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Well, we got a big one today, Dana.
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>> And we really uh it was kind of
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nerve-wracking a little bit, but first
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of all, uh his name is Ringo Star. And
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um he doesn't do a lot of podcasts. I
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couldn't find any other podcasts. Maybe
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a couple just very rare.
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>> I love it. So, we were able to we were
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very lucky a little while ago on the
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podcast to do Paul McCartney, which is a
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thrill. And then to get Ringo was a
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double thrill. Yeah. Uh I will say that
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uh nervous. Um, of course there's some
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when you're with one of the Beatles and
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I know at a certain point someone like
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Ringo Paul is like they haven't had it
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with the Beatles thing but you know it
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just it's like talking about something
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forever forever but lovely dude super
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cool um looks great and I don't want to
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sound like Kelly Ripa but looks great.
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She got in trouble for telling a guest
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that. um and such a magnificently huge
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star and you play the drums which I
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mentioned a Ringo during it. I didn't
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want to put you on the spot. I just
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wanted to say that someone like you
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>> will look for more things than someone
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like me when you watch a good drummer
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and you know every Beatles song back and
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forth. I think he appreciates that.
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>> Right. and the the because of back
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channels and people working for us
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trying to get Ringo for a long time and
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landing him and then we we found out it
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was about going to be about 20 minutes.
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So it was sort of like okay what do I
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ask in these 20 minutes because I I
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could have gone for three hours. Um but
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to your point you know you don't really
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know till you see someone in person. So,
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we saw Ringo in person.
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>> Sharp as attack,
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>> voice really strong, moves really well.
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So, it's like this guy is like, you
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know, and has a new album out, which we
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talk about a lot, which is great. Um,
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>> so yeah, I was a little hyperbolic. I
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was a little amped up. I was trying to
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calm down. You'll see. I was a little
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and I kind of apologized to him, you
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know.
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>> Well, it's too exciting. Like I I was
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just, you know, I go on these things
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like where it's old celebrities, old
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Hollywood things they sell and things
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that are cool. And recently there was
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Beatles stuff and that's such a fun one.
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I think you have a signed Beatles album
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and uh
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>> Yep. me.
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>> Which is unbelievable. Unbelievably cool
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to have all four Beatles on there and I
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was looking cuz I thought, "Oh, I wonder
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if I could get anything." And then I
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knew it was going to be out of my range
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and then they just said, "Uh, the ring."
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You would have loved those superstar
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drums from I think Ed Sullivan show.
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>> It was the the kick drum cover which was
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preserved perfectly and it says you know
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meet the Beatles or the Beatles
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>> the Beatles
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>> and it's an iconic kind of thing
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>> and that one from one early early
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probably Ed Sullivan went for 2 million
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or something
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>> 2.3 after starting the bid 500,000. Yes,
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that would have been out from the
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get-go. And they sold John Lennon's
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>> piano that he wrote,
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>> Lucy in the Sky and Sergeant Pepper. And
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I don't even know what that went for.
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But all that stuff, it's all one of a
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kind. It's all so interesting. And
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anything to do with the Beatles, they
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tell me, sells
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>> so well. So exciting.
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>> And a guy that's part of history. I met
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him years ago at the MTV Awards.
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>> We did a sketch where I played the
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receptionist. Remember that when I was
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doing that on SNL, you are condescending
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disregarding.
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>> And so we had people coming into the MTV
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Awards that year. I don't think it was
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the year you hosted. I think
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>> it was one of the other years. And then
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>> yeah, Ringo came in
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>> and then we got Ringo to come up and I
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had to go, why would I know you and
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you're in the music world, which I don't
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listen to many. And so he was a great
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sport. But I don't know if he would
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remember that because uh but of course I
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did. And then oh, you know what we'll
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show Heather? I ran into him about six
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months ago. Our stupid manager gith,
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"Hey, I got a little party. Freddy
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Veter, you want to come by?"
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>> Eddie says, "Come by." So, it was a
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birthday party. And when I walked in,
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I'm on the stairs to the backyard and
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Ringo's there and I'm like, "Holy shit."
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And he turned around and took a picture
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with his friends and I [ __ ] whipped
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in and photobombed it.
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>> Oh, that's right. Yeah.
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>> And then they left.
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>> And then I told Gervitz that we're
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having on. He goes, "Did you ever see
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that picture? didn't you photobomb and
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he sent it to me so we'll put it up uh
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so you can see it and it's super stupid
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but great time also we can say this that
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during the interview I know you love
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this too when he starts explaining
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drumming and he starts doing it on his
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knees and his feet his feet are going
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and we're like mesmerized well there is
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it's on YouTube there's a guy who goes
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Ringo I can play anything Ringo can play
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Ringo's easy and so he has this song act
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naturally where the high hat is going 16
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time or 94 hits a minute. It's like and
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then he sings the same time. So that
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bringing that up led him to do a little
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very quick slap rhythm thing that you'll
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see. And that was like, oh my god, he's
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he's he's got timing. I I just want to
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put it in context for people. The thing
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about us Beetle fanatics, and there's
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millions of us, is because what they did
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in like six and a half years is still
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hard to comprehend. And who did what?
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So, at one point I did I we were talking
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about that and then he's he'll he'll
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bring up a song. I don't know if I
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should mention it, but I had some
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questions about a song called Come
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Together. And his uh answer to that is
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uh really uh you
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>> sort of gave me the chills, little
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goosebumps. Not to overstate it, but it
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was very cool.
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>> You'll love it because he does a little
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act out with it and it kind of says it
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all. And so for me, uh, I knew Ringo was
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the perfect drummer for the Beatles. I
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didn't know the extent of his talent in
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in the moment, like that. He hears the
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song and he's not suffering over it or
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thinking much. He just a lot of his
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stuff was spontaneous. And that so that
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was really cool to learn that after all
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these years. And that's why we're still
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obsessed with the Beatles. What did John
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Lennon do? What did Ringo do? What was
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the relationship? We had the Get Back
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documentary, but there's still a lot of
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questions. So,
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>> yeah, the Get Back documentary. I think
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if you're into music at all, it's just
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so [ __ ] riveting to me that out of
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the blue, the arguably the greatest band
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in the world. And then you get to see
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they don't know what it's their last
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album. They don't know it. It's their
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last concert. And how they got along
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intricate in full color, fully miked.
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It's shocking. That was just sitting
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there. And then
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>> everything you're seeing they're trying
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to put songs together that you know now
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and they're doing like some was it
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something that George Harrison's working
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on he's like la like they're not they
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don't know the words yet but you do
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because you know the final product and
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you think oh my god this is really how
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they make it how they put it together
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and Ringo with the coolest name out
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there one of the coolest names nicknames
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his name is Richard Starky I think
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that's
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>> how do you how cool is it I don't know
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how it went from Richard Starky to Ringo
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star. I mean, it's like the greatest
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name transition.
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>> Somebody made a good call there because
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it's so much more memorable.
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>> Uh, I was going to ask him. Here's why I
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didn't ask him.
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Uh, they met Elvis and I had watched the
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night before that he was asked about
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meeting Elvis, which I two of my
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favorites and he said, you know, the
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Beatles were going through so much up
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and down and so much craziness
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>> when they met Elvis at his house. It was
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uh they felt for him because he was
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going through the same thing, but there
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was only one of him and there was four
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Beatles and they got to like share their
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experience and relate to each other
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like, "Well, at least we're all in the
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same hotel. Should we get out of here?"
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Elvis was one. He had his friends, but
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they weren't like super talent geniuses
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like the Beatles were. And so I was
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going to say that house I heard was way
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up on Hillrest.
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And is that the house? Cuz I used to
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live kind of up there. And I was always
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told that was Elvis's house. I was like,
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"Is that the one you guys met at?" Cuz I
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was very interested. No one else would
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give a fat [ __ ] But I didn't cuz I had
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one left. But then when he we kept him
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over 20 for sure, rudely. But he went
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right into a BBC and I think that was
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his only other interview
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>> and we didn't see him and I was like,
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"Shit." Oh, so great though. While we
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had him,
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>> uh, to your point, the Beatles, uh, when
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they came out, they were like exotic
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insects. And I didn't even get into
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this, but John F. Kennedy had just been
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assassinated and was really kind of and
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then they came out with their accents
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and their haircuts and Paul McCartney
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said they'd be in the hotel room before
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Ed Sullivan and they take out we take
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out a little suits, you know, the little
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black suits. We put on a little ties and
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said, "There we there we are a
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foreheaded monster." So when the Beatles
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would do a press conference and the
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press would try to be snarky, they would
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just go, "I just got my haircut
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yesterday." You just completely made fun
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of them. They were just like rockstar
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Markx brothers. But Elvis was up there
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kind of sweating and tortured by
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himself. Well, I don't know exactly how
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to answer that, Colonel. And he had
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Colonel Tom Parker. So, poor Elvis, you
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know,
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>> someone taking advantage of him instead
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of like three guys or four guys that are
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equal that are all just so great in
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their own way.
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>> It just and the wit. One of the press
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said, uh, uh, what's the secret to what
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you're doing? And Lennon said, "Well, if
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we knew, we'd create a band and become
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their managers." You know, that is true.
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>> I mean, they were all like this. And
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Ringo, too. All of them were just
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snappy, funny, and um anyway, it was
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just so
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>> we have to say we we'll we'll we'll
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throw it to Ringo here, but we went to a
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undisclosed hotel. We were nervous. We
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got there. We walked around and then he
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came up and uh super unassuming.
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>> I didn't know, you know, in a way
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sometimes it's you just don't know how
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to compliment people who have heard it
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all and been famous this long, but you
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still just want to say it anyway, you
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know. And
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>> I made sure that I I took a picture of
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the lyric sheet of one of it lyrics of
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one of the songs he wrote and said,
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"That's a great lyric." And you would,
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you know, and I don't know, Ringo can't
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go, "Oh, yeah." You know, it's like I
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mean anyway, but you still can't help
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but gush a little bit sometimes when you
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meet people that you know, I was saw him
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when I was eight years old playing the
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drums and said that's what I'm going to
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do.
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>> I see that when people walk up to me and
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I know they've seen benchwarmers. It's
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pretty much the same thing. So, they
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were they're nervous, they're sweating.
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Uh but when I think he just wanted to be
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like, "Oh, these guys are funny. I've
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seen them and stuff and I want to do a
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fun one. I don't want to get like these
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heavy questions. I just want to goof
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around. And he's a very light guy on his
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feet. So,
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>> I think he liked the idea that it wasn't
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like a super serious
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>> 60 minutes.
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>> It wasn't dark or serious. It was more
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inquisitive. But, uh he's he gets uh I
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think he enjoyed it. I know I did.
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>> Yeah. Had a great time. So, I think we
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can throw it to him. Here's uh the man
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in question and the guy we were all
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excited about, Ringo.
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We got to interview uh uh Paul
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McCartney.
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>> Oh yeah,
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>> I met him once.
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>> He said that you guys used to sit down
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for a plunker. You know,
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>> I love the way he
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>> looks like a plunk.
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>> He's a plunker.
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>> The humility with the catalog is so You
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guys are both very humble.
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>> Oh, yes, we are.
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>> Poor Rainbow.
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>> I thought the Beatles were good. But I'm
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going to It's a hot.
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>> I've got to live in LA. I'm so humble.
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>> I love LA.
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>> Are we always recording productions?
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>> Yes. Okay, good. Because we don't have a
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half apple.
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>> Let me get it going.
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>> So Richard Starky.
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>> Those are I think your tour dates.
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>> Love the album. Heard everything. And
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I'm going to give you specific examples
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of what I love.
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>> Choose uh She's Gone. Heartbreaking.
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He's gone.
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>> Heartbreaking. Yeah. Choose love.
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Another one of your calls.
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>> No matter what you choose, choose love.
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>> This is perfect. You guys are rolling.
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Okay. Uh, wave of love. Got to pay your
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dues if you want to sing the blues.
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>> Yeah, cuz you know it don't come easy.
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>> That's not on this album.
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>> It don't come easy. Do you got act
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naturally? I was that on this album or
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earlier?
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>> Yeah, much earlier.
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>> Okay.
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>> Like 68. uh 68,
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>> but not that early.
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>> Okay, here's a lyric that you wrote. I'm
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just starting with this stuff because I
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love specific
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>> Well, you know, T-Bone wrote most of
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this record.
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>> Well, I think the long long road, didn't
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you?
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>> Long long road I wrote with Bruce Sugar.
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>> This is a quote. Yeah, with Bruce. Yeah,
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this is a quote from or one of the I
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guess the chorus. I don't know. You guys
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have courses and stuff. So, anyway,
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don't be attached to your thoughts. Let
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them come in. Let them go. There was a
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night I was on my own. I was feeling
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pretty low.
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when things have changed since you came
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back. Oh, yeah. Things have changed. Now
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things have changed. It came back to me.
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Without your love, I'm drowning
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>> in the deep blue sea.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Which is interesting. You didn't go to a
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dark sea. Just deep.
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>> No, I went to a deep blue sea. Uh
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>> anyway,
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>> you know, I love oceans, but uh you
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know, it was you, you know, just as
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you're going through life, you learn
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certain things. And one of them was
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pointed out to me years and years ago
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said, you know, let the thoughts come
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in,
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>> right?
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>> But let them go out, you know, cuz
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mainly we sit around and for three days
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we're like, oh,
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>> you know, when I used to sit down on one
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seat, 25 in here, 25 people all had
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something to say. And now I'm getting up
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there five.
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And you said your playing's kind of more
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emotional or more in the moment or
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>> on the last album and this one I assume.
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>> Well, I think because it's country.
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>> Yeah.
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>> You know, and I come from very early
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country. Yeah.
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>> And you know, there was like the wife's
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left, the dog's dead, or I don't have
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enough money for the jukebox.
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>> David, it's your life.
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>> That's from my book.
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>> Yeah. Anyway, that's Yeah. You know,
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that sort of bit. So yeah, I think you
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know there's the she's gone and
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>> things happen and it's good, you know,
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and like the all the early country
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singers was all had a bit of, you know,
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>> downer in it.
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>> Yeah, sure.
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>> Right. But it's very very emotional. But
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yeah, it works great. The album is
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beautiful.
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>> Anyway, I love it because I love
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country, but I love the blues. I love
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Mottown. I love, you know, Al Green and
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uh Eddie Cochran, you know, I
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>> I was asked one time like to do that
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thing where you the best movie, the best
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record, the
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>> I we have to stop. I can't answer these
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question, right?
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>> Because I say one film and then oh god,
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>> a record. I love a thousand records.
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>> One thing that's run through my mind
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lately, you know, and of course my
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Beatles, the Beatles, your Beatles.
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Yeah.
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>> Like, wow. Is is What's Going On by
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Marvin Gay kind of a work of genius?
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It's one of the greatest songs ever.
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>> Yeah. Well, for you.
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>> I Well, and he sold three million. I
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mean,
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>> yeah. Yeah. No, he's I loved Marvin K.
00:16:14
>> Yeah. When you do
00:16:15
>> I love Johnny Ray.
00:16:17
>> Yeah, of course.
00:16:18
>> Did you ever hear him?
00:16:19
>> Absolutely.
00:16:20
>> Before your time.
00:16:22
>> No. No. We go way back.
00:16:24
>> Cry. Frankie Lane.
00:16:26
>> Frankie Lane. Yeah.
00:16:27
>> I loved his power. So he was like they
00:16:30
were the last two before
00:16:32
like groups came in and this the music
00:16:35
started to change.
00:16:36
>> Yeah. And you still have this great
00:16:38
voice and it's it's very distinct and
00:16:41
bluesy.
00:16:42
>> Um so it's all right there and I love
00:16:44
the mix right in the drums are the sound
00:16:47
is great really tight
00:16:49
>> you know. So anyway, great album.
00:16:53
>> And when you do a new album and you have
00:16:55
sort of at your fingertips, I can't
00:16:57
imagine any musician that wouldn't want
00:16:58
to kind of jump in with you. Uh is it do
00:17:02
you just call people and say, "Hey, you
00:17:03
want to come and jump in on this with us
00:17:04
>> when I'm doing a regular album?" Yeah.
00:17:06
>> Yeah. I call around and um but this with
00:17:10
>> T-Bone,
00:17:12
>> T-Bone introduced me to all the country
00:17:15
people, you know, Molly and Billy and
00:17:18
you know, everyone who's on it.
00:17:20
>> Sure.
00:17:20
>> And cuz last year with the other album,
00:17:23
we did a big show.
00:17:25
>> Okay.
00:17:25
>> And we got to say hi, but not really
00:17:28
hang out. So, yeah, it's been a really
00:17:31
great experience. Billy Strings is on
00:17:34
it. Billy Strings is on on both of them.
00:17:36
Good older Billy.
00:17:37
>> Good old Billy. He's learning how to
00:17:39
play the guitar.
00:17:40
>> He's now what is he now? 14.
00:17:42
>> Yeah. Yeah. He's a junior in high
00:17:44
school. I think he's on the gymnastics
00:17:45
team.
00:17:46
>> He is fast.
00:17:48
>> He is like that that kind of guy. Um so
00:17:50
the Beatles um my questions. Did you
00:17:54
ever was there a moment early on where
00:17:57
John and Paul would bring in a song and
00:17:59
it you kind of said, "Oh my god, we're
00:18:03
we're working with geniuses. I mean,
00:18:05
this is not normal." And I don't know
00:18:07
what song it might have been, but there
00:18:09
must there was a moment where was like,
00:18:11
"Oh, the mop top blah blah blah." And
00:18:13
then it was like, "Oh, wait a minute."
00:18:15
Because it was so much.
00:18:16
>> Well, I think we all changed.
00:18:19
>> You know, we were these pop stars and
00:18:21
played clubs. I played I played
00:18:24
weddings, whatever any chance you could
00:18:26
at Rory
00:18:28
>> and the Eddie Clayton group. I was only
00:18:29
in three bands.
00:18:31
>> So I did really well.
00:18:32
>> So did the other two do really well,
00:18:34
too.
00:18:35
>> Well, they did well in Liverpool.
00:18:37
>> Yeah. Okay.
00:18:38
>> You know, that was it.
00:18:39
>> Yeah.
00:18:39
>> And uh not outside and Rory, we were
00:18:43
like
00:18:45
>> in Liverpool as the top band, but
00:18:48
>> spreading ourselves a little outside.
00:18:50
And then with the Beatles, we were big
00:18:53
in Liverpool and then we went way
00:18:56
outside.
00:18:57
>> Graham Nash, I got to talk to him once
00:18:59
about you guys. I think it was 62 or
00:19:01
three at the at the cavern and you all
00:19:03
came in with long leather jackets and he
00:19:05
said that just there was a vibe in the
00:19:07
air like everybody knew something
00:19:09
special was happening.
00:19:11
>> Yeah.
00:19:12
>> Well, I think that was before I joined.
00:19:14
>> Do you never had a long leather jacket?
00:19:16
>> No.
00:19:16
>> Could we get people a long leather
00:19:18
jacket? I haven't such a long leather
00:19:21
jacket makes me today.
00:19:24
>> I think you I think I read you saw uh
00:19:28
the other three guys and you said this
00:19:30
is the front I want. This is a wall in
00:19:32
front of me that I is better than what I
00:19:33
have even
00:19:34
>> well I met them like hi how are you
00:19:36
doing in Liverpool
00:19:38
>> and then we went to Germany and they
00:19:40
were booked first into this other club
00:19:43
and we were into the club with Rory
00:19:47
>> and then the Kashmir the guy won both of
00:19:49
them put us both on the same stage.
00:19:52
>> Oh really?
00:19:53
>> And so at weekends we'd play eight hours
00:19:55
between two bands.
00:19:56
>> Oh wow. really play. But I loved
00:20:00
>> the front line.
00:20:01
>> Yeah.
00:20:01
>> I I just loved it.
00:20:03
>> Was Was it the charm and
00:20:05
>> was they were great
00:20:07
>> and the harmonies were great. It was
00:20:09
just a great feel from it, you know.
00:20:12
>> And uh they you know in those days when
00:20:14
Brian called to say hello,
00:20:18
>> would you join the Beatles? I said yeah.
00:20:21
I said I said when he said oh this
00:20:24
evening we were at you know playing a
00:20:27
three-month gig with Rory said I can't
00:20:29
leave them today.
00:20:30
>> Yeah
00:20:31
>> got to give him time to get another
00:20:32
drummer so I left Saturday I can leave
00:20:34
tomorrow everybody all the drummers and
00:20:37
most of the players in those day we all
00:20:39
played the same songs.
00:20:41
>> Sure.
00:20:41
>> Right. I went on stage once and two
00:20:44
three bands gig and uh two of the
00:20:48
drummers just by chance didn't turn up.
00:20:51
So I put a jacket on and played with
00:20:53
you. Sorry. And then you came on with
00:20:55
your band and I just played with you.
00:20:58
Then you came on with your band.
00:21:00
>> I just didn't get up all night. There's
00:21:02
a great interview with Paul where he
00:21:04
mentions I don't know if it was from the
00:21:05
documentary in the 90s just when you
00:21:07
joined and when you kicked in in the
00:21:09
back like it was just a whole other and
00:21:11
I can see I often thought like because
00:21:13
you have heavy foot and heavy hands like
00:21:16
you have inordinately really big hands
00:21:19
>> strong. Yeah. Well, look at these.
00:21:21
>> They look big to you.
00:21:23
>> Yeah. Strong hands because you just you
00:21:26
really brought that
00:21:27
>> Yeah. But I lower slightly.
00:21:30
>> Yeah. But you still have power.
00:21:32
>> It's all in there.
00:21:34
>> Dana plays drums, so he knows more about
00:21:36
the drum stuff than I do.
00:21:38
>> Not as good, obviously. He's hard.
00:21:40
>> No, I But
00:21:42
>> but he looks at it from a different lens
00:21:44
than most people.
00:21:45
>> I just love the quirkiness of the way
00:21:47
you played. Um, you didn't all go to the
00:21:50
splash when you think you would go to
00:21:51
the splash at the you just got but you
00:21:54
don't do the splash. You know,
00:21:55
>> this first guy to do that, you go to the
00:21:57
floor, Tom, a lot
00:21:59
>> on the course. I love the depth.
00:22:01
>> Yeah.
00:22:01
>> of the toms. That's why I always love
00:22:03
that.
00:22:04
>> And uh you know, so the snare is is
00:22:07
deep.
00:22:08
>> Mhm.
00:22:09
>> Cuz you know, I had one I played for
00:22:12
years that had a hole in it and I just
00:22:15
put chewing gum in it. It lasted five
00:22:17
years, you know.
00:22:19
>> Yeah.
00:22:19
>> Far out. Oh, it's all so technical now,
00:22:23
you know, just a skin with a hole in it
00:22:26
and a snare on a lot of Beatle records.
00:22:30
Are there some harder harder than
00:22:31
others? Like even me, I don't play the
00:22:33
drums, but when I play along in my card,
00:22:35
something like Ticket to Ride, I never
00:22:37
get it right. Like just a tough,
00:22:38
>> you know, are there certain ones that
00:22:40
are tougher than others?
00:22:41
>> Uh, they are, but you know, I was
00:22:43
guessing.
00:22:45
>> It seemed to work.
00:22:47
>> Yeah. I mean, you you know, if you saw
00:22:49
that huge documentary, Peter Jackson
00:22:52
twice ago.
00:22:52
>> Oh, yeah. Cuz he found 56 hours of
00:22:55
unused stuff.
00:22:56
>> It's so crazy, you know.
00:22:58
Um, you know, I'm sort of I I called him
00:23:01
like a year later because on uh get back
00:23:06
>> how did I get to that sort of marchy
00:23:09
thing?
00:23:09
>> Anyway, so he he found footage and I'm
00:23:12
like get back
00:23:16
and then he found a cut then sort of
00:23:19
next job and
00:23:23
then it cuts to
00:23:30
And I said, "How did I get to that?"
00:23:32
>> Riveting.
00:23:33
>> How? I don't know.
00:23:34
>> And but we didn't find the actual piece
00:23:37
that showed me.
00:23:38
>> It's just amazing when you was that
00:23:40
naturally like 16th time or 94 beats a
00:23:42
sec. I mean, it was so fast.
00:23:44
>> Yeah.
00:23:44
>> And then you're singing and that's just
00:23:47
a rare thing that
00:23:48
>> Well, that's Boys.
00:23:49
>> Well, boys singing.
00:23:51
>> Yeah. Boys was considered hard rock to
00:23:53
me when I was like 10 years old. My
00:23:55
brother, I had the older brothers. They
00:23:56
said, "The Beatles got this new song
00:23:58
called Boys Raino Singing, Man."
00:24:01
I mean, it was hard rock,
00:24:02
>> but that was an old song.
00:24:04
>> I know.
00:24:04
>> And it was actually done by a girl band,
00:24:07
a girl vocal group
00:24:10
>> and I just loved the loved it, you know,
00:24:13
who cares? And
00:24:14
>> I didn't think you're talking about
00:24:15
boys. They're talking about boys.
00:24:17
>> Yeah.
00:24:19
>> Oh, okay.
00:24:19
>> Yeah. So, I was Hey, I'm doing it
00:24:21
anyway, right? you know,
00:24:23
>> sounds like celebrating.
00:24:24
>> I like this song.
00:24:25
>> I never knew
00:24:26
>> because with Rory, I used to have ring
00:24:27
called Star Time.
00:24:28
>> So, I'd have like five songs
00:24:31
>> and that was one of them.
00:24:33
>> God, it's so I could talk to you all
00:24:34
day, but there's something I listen to
00:24:36
recently that it just blows my mind
00:24:38
every time because the leap between I
00:24:41
guess it was rubber soul revolver in
00:24:43
there somewhere. you did Strawberry
00:24:44
Fields and it that that last two minutes
00:24:47
where you're doing this marching drum
00:24:50
and it fades away and comes back is so
00:24:54
magical and I don't know if it's overdub
00:24:56
but it sounded like a marching band
00:24:58
>> or
00:24:59
>> I did very little overdub.
00:25:01
>> Mhm. So you did it all by yourself. We
00:25:03
just play it through. And I mean the the
00:25:06
first time we'd play it would be great
00:25:08
because we'd all be sort of like
00:25:10
>> making it up. And sometimes,
00:25:12
>> you know, you could sit there all year
00:25:14
and you wouldn't have got what you just
00:25:16
made up.
00:25:16
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:25:17
>> So that's how it works. Pretty free.
00:25:20
Beautiful.
00:25:20
>> There's not any uh memory of mine of
00:25:22
like, oh, you can't do that in my song.
00:25:24
You know,
00:25:26
>> oh, you can do that.
00:25:27
>> I don't know if there's, you know, in um
00:25:29
>> come together. Just let me finish the
00:25:31
story. Just let me finish the story. So
00:25:33
we're going we went to another studio
00:25:35
just to get out of Abby Road.
00:25:37
>> Yeah.
00:25:38
>> And come together and I was on drums.
00:25:40
John was sort of sitting over there on
00:25:42
the floor and he had the guitar and it
00:25:44
was like
00:25:46
>> what he's playing.
00:25:50
>> Um and so I just sort of went
00:25:55
and he goes,
00:25:58
>> "Oh,
00:25:59
>> oh yeah. Oh my god. I never read that
00:26:03
story.
00:26:03
>> You just surprised him with it and you
00:26:05
just did it in two.
00:26:06
>> We hadn't done it before that minute.
00:26:08
>> Don't
00:26:08
>> when we like set up and see what's
00:26:10
happening.
00:26:11
>> Wow. That's
00:26:12
>> you know so it just came.
00:26:14
>> You know the two things I'm blessed with
00:26:16
is that I don't play a lot.
00:26:19
>> I keep good time.
00:26:20
>> It's all in here.
00:26:22
>> Well, it's all in here.
00:26:24
>> Okay.
00:26:24
>> It's all in the star.
00:26:27
So when you uh when uh
00:26:29
>> that is a great story. I I love that.
00:26:31
>> That gave me the chills actually. Paul
00:26:33
>> what
00:26:34
>> when you leave and you I think you're
00:26:36
all doing solo stuff um and you do
00:26:38
photograph and some of these big hits.
00:26:40
Do they call is it is it you're still
00:26:42
talking a lot or you're kind of doing
00:26:43
your own thing but they must have to
00:26:44
acknowledge like holy [ __ ] these are
00:26:46
rippers. Well, if you you know, if you
00:26:49
look at the Ringo album and this the
00:26:51
next album I did with um I just died,
00:26:55
God bless him.
00:26:56
>> Richard Perry.
00:26:57
>> Richard Perry.
00:26:59
>> Yeah. Um it's it's it's like an allstar
00:27:02
band because you know I've got the band.
00:27:04
John came and played it wrote a song and
00:27:07
played George to come into town. It was
00:27:10
never planned
00:27:11
>> and oh he's in the same town so come on
00:27:14
over.
00:27:15
>> You know we act like Dr. Dawn and half
00:27:17
of the band and you know it was great.
00:27:23
>> Well, I'd like to make an observation
00:27:25
>> is that you've inordinately popular with
00:27:27
your peers. You're just really popular.
00:27:29
I mean, everybody wanted to play with
00:27:31
you.
00:27:32
>> I mean, that's kind of you are popular.
00:27:35
>> Yeah, I am.
00:27:35
>> And you were the anchor of the Beatles.
00:27:37
We saw that documentary and you were
00:27:39
kind of the the peace and love.
00:27:42
>> Well, they were wild, those boys.
00:27:43
>> Crazy.
00:27:44
>> Had to keep them steady. If they
00:27:46
couldn't sing, you'd throw them in the
00:27:47
trash.
00:27:48
>> Yeah.
00:27:50
>> Next.
00:27:51
>> Who else you got? But it is it is nice
00:27:53
that all these years you people come,
00:27:56
they want to play with you.
00:27:57
>> Yeah. You know,
00:27:58
>> well, I play on
00:28:00
>> probably around about 10 people's
00:28:03
tracks.
00:28:04
>> Okay.
00:28:04
>> And I send it back, you know, send the
00:28:06
files. I do it in my kit because I know
00:28:08
it.
00:28:08
>> Yeah.
00:28:09
>> And I say, "Use me or lose me because I
00:28:12
may not have played what you wanted, you
00:28:14
know." Sure.
00:28:15
>> So, it only ever happened once.
00:28:18
>> Well, like you said, they they the guys
00:28:20
wouldn't tell you what to do and you
00:28:21
would add it and they'd say, "This is
00:28:22
great." That's kind of a good freedom to
00:28:24
have.
00:28:24
>> One thing fascinates me. I'm sorry. I'll
00:28:27
try to be slow down, but she's so heavy
00:28:30
when you guys were playing that and then
00:28:32
there was a complaint. This on the tapes
00:28:34
from Revolver. You can't, you know, got
00:28:37
to calm down the music. They're saying
00:28:38
this and they're like, "Us now we have
00:28:40
to play." So Lennon said, "John, let's
00:28:42
do one more loud and then we'll play it
00:28:44
softer after this." But that long jam
00:28:47
and then that where that song went and
00:28:49
you guys went into that really cool jam
00:28:51
and you were doing this kind of with the
00:28:53
toms kind of in part is so fantastic. I
00:28:56
don't know if you listen to this stuff.
00:28:57
>> Well, yeah, not every day, but yeah, you
00:29:00
know, things just happened. That's how
00:29:03
it was. And like, you know, they say
00:29:04
it's your birthday is a jam.
00:29:06
>> Yeah. We were just jamming and then it
00:29:09
turned into like a rhythm pattern and
00:29:11
Paul was always great. He'd jump in, you
00:29:14
know.
00:29:15
>> Yeah,
00:29:15
>> he would. He was reading something in
00:29:18
the paper about somebody's birthday. And
00:29:20
that's how it gave him the hook. You
00:29:22
know, they say it's your birthday.
00:29:24
>> Second only to Happy Birthday.
00:29:26
Absolutely.
00:29:27
It's nice to hear your rhythm section
00:29:30
with Paul when they did the re uh
00:29:32
reissues and some of the remixes because
00:29:34
we're listening to you guys on
00:29:35
Transistor radios in the 60s. You know,
00:29:37
>> you listen more than I do.
00:29:39
>> He knows a lot.
00:29:40
>> There's a lot of me and in Hollywood a
00:29:42
lot of us were on email text changes.
00:29:44
>> Anyway, I've got a new record out.
00:29:46
>> Yeah.
00:29:47
>> Long long road which is fantastic. It's
00:29:50
pure Ringo. I recommend you go out and
00:29:52
buy it. Pre-sold. It comes out April. A
00:29:54
lot of good tracks and T-Bone Bernette
00:29:57
produced it and a lot of it's done in
00:29:59
Nashville and a lot of it's done in my
00:30:02
studio.
00:30:03
>> Wait a minute. Hold on.
00:30:05
>> Oh, look at
00:30:06
>> Oh, you've got a copy of this birthday.
00:30:08
>> You know, I don't have a copy.
00:30:10
>> There's the first one.
00:30:11
>> Must be on the way. Yeah, that's great.
00:30:13
>> Look at how cool that is.
00:30:14
>> That's hip. So, you're gonna have an LP
00:30:16
out.
00:30:16
>> Yeah. Long, long road
00:30:18
>> vinyl Ringo Star.
00:30:20
>> There you go.
00:30:21
>> Yeah.
00:30:21
>> Mhm.
00:30:22
>> This house is in LA. It's a why T-Bone
00:30:25
heard about it. We went to do the forest
00:30:27
with Henry Duls and uh it's the craziest
00:30:31
house you've ever been in.
00:30:33
>> Where is that?
00:30:34
>> Where is up the hills?
00:30:35
>> Where is it?
00:30:35
>> Do you remember the address?
00:30:37
>> Up in the hills.
00:30:38
>> Up in the hills is not knowing the
00:30:40
address.
00:30:41
>> A crazy hill home.
00:30:42
>> Yeah, but you know who knew?
00:30:45
>> Well, you look cool in that purple
00:30:46
shirt, by the way.
00:30:47
>> I know. Everybody talks now about this
00:30:49
job.
00:30:50
>> The shirt's bigger than the record. It
00:30:52
gets you in the building and then you'll
00:30:53
>> That's from those days. You know that
00:30:56
shirt.
00:30:56
>> Those days
00:30:57
>> meaning,
00:30:57
>> you know, those old days
00:30:59
>> all those other days.
00:31:00
>> Long time ago.
00:31:01
>> Let me see.
00:31:02
>> There you go.
00:31:02
>> If they put it in here, too.
00:31:04
>> Let's see if they did it right.
00:31:05
>> No, I want to see if they Oh, no.
00:31:07
They're just get Oh, there it is. Look.
00:31:09
In those other days.
00:31:10
>> Oh. Oh. Oh, yeah.
00:31:11
>> Oh. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
00:31:16
>> Wait. Speaking of house.
00:31:17
>> But anyway.
00:31:17
>> Oh, everyone says, "Oh, man. I love that
00:31:21
shirt. So I say, "Good."
00:31:23
>> Yeah. I really
00:31:24
>> You can't have it.
00:31:25
>> Come on. You got four minutes.
00:31:27
>> Baby don't go. Baby don't go. Baby is
00:31:29
such a great one minute. One minute.
00:31:30
>> And in in the course you do tomtoms.
00:31:33
>> Yeah.
00:31:33
>> So you're back full circle
00:31:35
>> and they're perfect.
00:31:36
>> Yeah. Yeah.
00:31:36
>> You know, I do, you know, it's no big
00:31:40
plan. You send me the song, I'll sit
00:31:43
behind the kit
00:31:45
>> and I'll listen to it once and then
00:31:47
we'll play it. And I usually now do two
00:31:49
takes cuz that's enough.
00:31:52
>> It's got it all there.
00:31:54
>> So sometimes, you know, when we do the
00:31:57
the verse and we get to the chorus.
00:32:00
>> Mhm.
00:32:00
>> Okay. I'll do it that way. And then when
00:32:02
we get to the next chorus, you know, I
00:32:05
may come in like a beat late or earlier
00:32:07
or whatever happens in here.
00:32:09
>> Yeah. And I've never been able to, you
00:32:13
know, oh, double that, you know, double
00:32:15
what you
00:32:16
>> I can't do that.
00:32:17
>> I do it at the moment of the emotion.
00:32:20
>> It's weird, but I just cannot do it
00:32:23
twice the same.
00:32:24
>> I can do this all day. Fingerprint bomb.
00:32:30
>> I mean, tomorrow never knows. I guess
00:32:32
it's legendary.
00:32:34
>> Yeah, legendary.
00:32:35
>> You're very humble, man. But you
00:32:36
couldn't make a mistake. Then they have
00:32:38
to start over, right? I mean, it's kind
00:32:42
of extra extra.
00:32:44
>> Yeah. Well, we didn't, so we're lucky.
00:32:45
Yeah. I mean, that's the the the drag
00:32:48
really with some of those reissues.
00:32:50
>> Yeah.
00:32:51
>> Like they'll say, "Oh, take nine."
00:32:53
>> So you, you know, everyone thinks that
00:32:55
it's that long,
00:32:56
>> right?
00:32:56
>> Where usually like take nine was two,
00:32:58
three, four,
00:33:00
>> one, two, three, four, you know, come on
00:33:03
in. It only got as far as the counting.
00:33:05
Yeah. Yeah.
00:33:05
>> Yeah. I was lighting a cigarette or
00:33:07
something. I don't know.
00:33:08
>> Yeah.
00:33:08
>> Well, your allstar band. I've seen it in
00:33:10
the past. I'll see it again. You're on
00:33:12
tour. Uh starting pretty soon.
00:33:14
>> We're at the Greek.
00:33:15
>> The Greek,
00:33:17
>> you know. So, we started Humphre. I love
00:33:19
that game.
00:33:20
>> I've played there a lot.
00:33:21
>> I played
00:33:23
too. I love it.
00:33:25
>> And I shout at the guys in the yachts.
00:33:27
>> Oh, yeah. Bastards. Wouldn't even buy a
00:33:30
ticket.
00:33:31
>> Oh, they come in and listen. That's
00:33:33
right.
00:33:34
gamage in Arizona where I'm from.
00:33:35
>> No, I still like to be with the
00:33:37
audience.
00:33:37
>> Yeah.
00:33:38
>> Well, that's a tight little
00:33:39
amphitheater. You think there's no roof,
00:33:40
but it just feels very good. And I'm
00:33:43
going to play it in in November if
00:33:45
you're around,
00:33:46
>> you know.
00:33:46
>> Are you going home for
00:33:47
>> I'm going to play Humphrey's November.
00:33:49
>> You're booking already for November.
00:33:51
>> You're all locked up for November.
00:33:53
>> Well, it was kind of like these other
00:33:54
dates didn't work at November. It's kind
00:33:56
of outdoors. It might be cold. And I
00:33:58
said, "Hell with it." Ringo would do it.
00:34:00
Ringo would do it.
00:34:01
>> Yeah. Rain. Rain or storms. I don't
00:34:03
care.
00:34:03
>> You don't go play.
00:34:05
>> Thank you.
00:34:05
>> And I tell everybody, if there's three
00:34:07
people turn up to see us, we'll play.
00:34:10
>> I've one of the allstar bands, we were
00:34:13
playing uh Denver.
00:34:16
>> Mhm.
00:34:16
>> And uh the monitors went out. Every one
00:34:20
of them. Well, we can't play. I said,
00:34:23
"What? What? What do you mean you can't
00:34:24
play? We'll have to listen to the amps
00:34:27
and listen to, you know, what people are
00:34:29
doing."
00:34:29
>> Right.
00:34:30
>> And we did the show. I'm not stopping
00:34:32
just cuz you can't hear the monitor cuz
00:34:34
everyone has a different monitor these
00:34:36
days. Y
00:34:36
>> Anyway, we played the gig and to a man
00:34:39
they said,
00:34:40
>> "Oh, that was great."
00:34:43
>> You never know. Sometimes the monitors
00:34:45
can throw you off. If they're too loud,
00:34:47
then you don't push it. Anyway, I know
00:34:49
you have to go, but one last qu No, I've
00:34:51
never
00:34:52
>> I do have to go, but it's been good
00:34:53
seeing you guys. Good seeing you. Good
00:34:55
luck with your album, Long Road. And um
00:34:58
>> what do you play?
00:34:59
>> I don't just mumble jokes. Okay.
00:35:01
>> He plays with He plays with girls.
00:35:05
>> Okaybody.
00:35:06
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