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well good is good I I'm wondering when
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the first time you did the makeup test
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and you became the character and when
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you looked in the mirror you know
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obviously the thing is just start to go
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what was your reaction was it emotional
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almost it was actually funny you should
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ask yes I think before well the first
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time the first test was at the protozoa
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offices and Adrian Moreau is the
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designer of this movie he's brilliant
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and
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um getting into it for the first time it
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was a big labor to get all the parts of
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Montreal and all that
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and
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Derek looked over my shoulder and he
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said
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for the rest of your life
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what is happening that's what I thought
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what's that mean and then I thought I
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know what you mean actually because you
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can't really Divorce Yourself from me
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creating this character for better or
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worse or people remember it yes you can
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be remembered for something for the rest
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of your life for any number of reasons
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well there's never been a movie that
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explored people suffer from obesity not
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in this way no I was I thought about
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this long and hard I I remember this way
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yeah the closest I could think of and
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this might be reaching for it was Dom
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DeLuise in Fatso oh interesting comedy
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from the 80s right or 70s it was really
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emotional too yeah and and I I brought I
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drew inspiration from John Candy in
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Planes Trains and Automobiles yeah you
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recall when they were in he was deriding
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him and he says go ahead you can I'm a
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big guy you take a shot at me yeah but I
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like me my wife likes me I'm good enough
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I mean and he looked like he was going
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to crack in that moment he was and that
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was a beautiful piece of acting right
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there I don't think we've seen that kind
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of sensitivity attached yeah owning who
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you are when you live in a larger body
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like that yeah and I I love that he was
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a college professor you know and and
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there was a heartache always underneath
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almost the entire it was just there you
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didn't have to play it even you were
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being light like you're being light with
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everyone you're saying I'm sorry and but
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you know what I was all in really your
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face so the suit kind of uh goes away
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everywhere because you're just watching
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you to see what's up because in absence
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of it you know being a success with our
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finely tuned brand seeing makeups versus
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CGI creations and you can tell that
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where the dotted lines are and you
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automatically go you have to make a
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decision about suspension of belief I'll
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let that one slide and but with this it
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was a straight ahead
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analog makeup yeah with the exception of
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maybe a light um digital Curative if
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like a piece of fabric on your shirt it
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was acting up in its own movie or
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whatever that would fix that later or
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there was a scene when on the bib sort
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of shape or the collar when Charlie goes
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down the hallway you go to bed he takes
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his shirt off before and
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you know anyway that that was the full
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suit was very heavy and
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um
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you know anyway apart from that what you
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see was what you got but if it didn't
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work there was no movie and the rule was
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this is a makeup and costume that will
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obey the laws of physics and gravity
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it um it will not be what we've seen so
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frequently which is uh a foam light foam
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Halloween costume kind of silhouette
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that an athletic actor wears and you
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sort of defy gravity and bounce around
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the way and yeah you know I mean that's
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that's a different movie it's a
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different genre I have mixed feelings
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about what's funny about that and what's
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not no you look like it was very
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belabored to do anything that guy was
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Ill he was not well and you really I
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mean when you were wheezing and and you
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know I felt suffocated you know I was
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really and when he the heroic moment
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with his daughter where he's I don't
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know I don't want to give away the
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ending but when he gets up that was just
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that put me in a puddle of Tears I'm I'm
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feeling it right it's having the
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strength to get to your feet yeah and do
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what you need someone who loves his
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daughter so much and it's impossible and
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he's going to do it anyway