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RE-RELEASE - Tony Hawk

April 29, 2026 / 01:17:26

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Okay, the Hawk. Tony Hawk.

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>> The Hawk. Meister.

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>> Tony Hawk is back. We had to bring him

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back because uh he's the coolest.

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>> We had a good time with good old Tony

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Hawk. Uh I met this young man who's It's

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always fun to know someone who's the

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best at something.

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>> He came in the studio. Um

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>> we met when I was 20

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or 21 on Police Academy 4. The good one.

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>> Yeah, that's right. your skateboarding

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debut in emotion.

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>> I knew about him from skateboard

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magazines and all this stuff. Uh, and

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getting to meet him right off the pages

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of the magazines and he had Mike McIll

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and Lance Mountain, all these great

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skaters with him and we would what a

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great time. So anyway, we did that and

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we talked about that and also just

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talking about what it's like to be the

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best skater in the world. I mean, a lot

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comes with it. He's very rich, which I

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like. um has his own board.

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>> Well, he he breaks down moment to moment

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for what was it? Five flips or something

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in this and you you'll enjoy hearing

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that. I mean, obviously what he's doing

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is very brave,

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>> but he's a he's kind of he's an affable

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agreeable personality. He's not like a

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like a tough guy. He just sort of talks

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it through and uh it's really fun.

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>> No ego telling us like doing a 1080.

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What's it like?

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>> You're going up and spinning and where's

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the ramp? Where are you in the world?

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Where what's going through your head?

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>> Yeah. You're upside down. Your head is

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an inch from concrete. What are you

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thinking at that moment?

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>> Uh very I, you know, listen, I like

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Tony. I've known him a long time and

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he's done a lot and he has a lot to say

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and he has Tony Hawk video games. Just a

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lot going on

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>> and he has an incredibly cool

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>> very chill dude. Here he is. Tony Hawk.

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>> Yeah.

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I think for for actresses I don't think

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it's fair that every article they're

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like Mimi Rogers 67. They always put

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their name and then their age and I do

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not do that with men.

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>> They do it for men too but I think it's

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mostly women and uh that's when I notice

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it and I go why does that matter and

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that should be eradicated because it

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doesn't matter. You could look it up if

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you want to know right.

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>> I think they'll eradicate it if we look

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up anything at this point. I mean, I

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can't believe they're still doing that

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when they don't do anything else. It's

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like that one seems a little more

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obscure.

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>> Let's put a Let's put a billboard and

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say stop putting the ages of women

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started. I got a lot of time in life,

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>> especially in the actress world, like if

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you're thinking of hiring someone that

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just in the back of your head, you go,

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"Oh, that's the right age." Or, "Oh, no,

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that feel," you know, whatever. It just

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it's it sends a weird message

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immediately and it doesn't need to be an

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article. And I know anyway, thanks for

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coming by, Tony. Take it easy.

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>> Thank you. You could you're free to look

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up my age. Tony who turns 27.

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>> Uh he's uh you know I I the age thing

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one is always gives a sense of humor

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about it. And I have a dermatologist

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who's I think he's like 85. I said how

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old are you? I'm 106. That's a standard

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answer.

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>> That's a good way to say it. Just to say

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it's high.

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>> He's a guy who checked my skin and every

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and he had a woman with a clipboard and

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he kept going age related. He's got a

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microscope. I do like age related. I do

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you have to say age related? Can I have

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something age related?

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>> Dude, I went I've done that on this

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podcast before.

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>> D and I went to catch one night. Tony,

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we're we might not get to you, but

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>> I'm just going to tell I I I listen to

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the show anyway. So, I'm just here fast.

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>> You know how it works. You know, it's

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going to come to you.

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>> We have so many questions for you. It's

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going there's going to be a two-parter.

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>> So, I go to this uh high-end restaurant,

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Koi, and um Koi, which is basically

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sponsored by us. I saw you at Koi back

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in the day.

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>> Yeah.

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>> They moved it. People were like hovering

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with paparazzia. That's where he got

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>> place. Then catch took him.

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>> Uh so this guy was there and he goes,

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"Hey, uh this is my buddy. He's a

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plastic surgeon. He works in town." And

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and he's already looking at me and I was

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of course a little buzzed naturally cuz

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it was night time. So I had a little

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loud mouth. You're like a

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>> I go

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I get that little humming.

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>> So So I I get on there and I go and I'm

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just standing at the table. So I go the

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worst question. What would you do to me?

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And he like slowly looks at me like

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Robocop. I go, "No, no, no." And he

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goes,

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>> "Well,"

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and I go, "No." And he goes, "Listen,

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here's a lot of

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>> If you want just the top nine things

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that are like no-brainers, like these

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are things that are not even tuck."

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>> No, Dana, I'm not going to say because I

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want to go, "Oh, yeah. Yeah,

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>> because uh we would disagree."

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>> Oh, no.

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>> No, you can't. You have to just you have

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to roll with it.

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>> You just get nice work. Good work.

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That's the key. Good work. So people

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just don't know you got work. Well,

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Tony, let's get let's get

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>> I'm looking at you, Tony.

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>> Tony and I are about When is that

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happening? We're about the same age.

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>> Can you Do you have that guy's number?

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No. This guy, honestly, he was like,

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"Listen, I'll do it on the house

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by noon tomorrow."

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>> Cutters what like to cut. I'll tell you

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that.

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>> Face guys don't go, "Oh, you don't need

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anything." They go, "We can get in

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there, dig around a little bit. This is

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all natural. I've been here since

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Eisenhower's first administration. I

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won't give my age, but I'll just say I

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was on this earth with these hands and

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these feet since the mid50s

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>> voting for Calvin Kulage.

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>> Look how good I look now.

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>> Tony, let's talk about there's so many

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place to ask, but

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>> I want to know just cuz I was talking

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about Vicodin and how I only get plastic

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surgery for Vicodin.

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>> I don't need it. I don't need this.

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>> I had crazy surgery. I took a Vikin and

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hated it. I liked the Advil much better.

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the minority.

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>> Hey Advil, if you're listening.

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>> I know. I like when the doctor goes, "So

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you broke your leg. You want to really

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pump the Advil?" I go, "The what?"

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>> Yeah.

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>> [ __ ] funny you say that cuz I broke

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my leg in March. A year ago tomorrow.

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>> Yeah. This is actually a good story.

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>> Did you get Where's the celebration?

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>> No. No. Can I get details on that?

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>> No, this is a good story because I know

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what I did. I was laying there on my

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ramp with my leg.

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>> Was it the femur or the femur? Yeah.

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What was the trick? Mc

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>> twist.

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It's always a McTist. Wait a minute.

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Were Were you by yourself?

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>> I was not. But my friend,

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>> my good friend Kevin came over about

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five minutes later with two Advil.

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>> Two Advil.

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>> Jesus Christ.

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>> I'll never forget that.

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>> Well, that

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>> All right. Thanks.

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>> I might do an opioid at that point, you

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know. But so was it was it particularly

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scary? It seems like a lot of times

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people get hurt when it's like

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peruncter, but they're just not as zoned

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in as much.

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>> Dude, your [ __ ] thigh. It was a trick

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that I have done tens of thousands of

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times

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>> and I uh didn't have enough speed going

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into it and I knew that full well, but I

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was always able to figure that out,

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adjust for the air. And

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>> I guess at age 54, that's the time when

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you can no longer adjust for it so

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easily.

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>> And next thing I know, I'm just sliding

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through the flat part of my ramp with my

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leg. I could feel it just dangling. And

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I looked up at another friend of mine. I

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go, I broke my leg. And he's like, what?

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And then I grabbed it and I put it back

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in place

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>> instinctually.

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>> I can't believe what I'm hearing.

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>> But but then in that moment I knew like,

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"Oh, I'm so fucked."

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>> Like I can't I can't move. I can't do

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anything. I want to rewind this whole

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moment in time. But

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>> did you hear it as well

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>> or did it pop?

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>> It was all very chaotic

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>> the fall. So I'm really sure how it

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happened, but I don't remember hearing

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it pop. I just felt it disconnect.

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>> And what what did they do with that? Do

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you have a metal rod down your

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>> I do? Yeah. Yeah.

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>> Okay. How much did that cost?

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>> You know,

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I looked at the hard cost of it because

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I thankfully have insurance.

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>> Uhhuh.

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>> It's a lot. It's more than a house.

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>> Really?

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>> Yeah. By the way, who is insuring the

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homes in my area anyway? Not Not where

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you guys live.

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>> Who do you get your insurance from?

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>> I mean, my god. Who is like

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>> Bobby's healing and band-aids on

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Ventura? Where did you

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>> Zack? Sag. Oh, SAG

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>> Blue Lacrosse. So, Anthem

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>> that

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>> How long How is it now?

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>> Well, I went through I went through

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eight months of recovery

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>> and got my get got back on my skateboard

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much too soon. I watched this whole

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thing on Instagram playoff

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>> and it never connected. My bone never

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connected because I was so active on it.

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>> So, you you rushed it a little bit and

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it never grew together.

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>> Yeah. And and I and I kept thinking like

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it's going to happen. It's going to

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happen. And then at some point I

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realized that I'm just in pain all the

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time. I mean like I would I would have

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to take a painkiller to get through an

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airport

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>> and I go this doesn't feel right for 8

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months in. I went and got X-rays and

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realized the bone had moved further away

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from where it was when it got

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>> because you were too active.

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>> I was too active. So,

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>> I uh I came up here to a specialist and

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um he's the specialist in non-union

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fractures, which means it never it never

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formed a union.

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>> And he put it straight and sent me on my

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way and I've been taking it slow and I'm

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finally back on my skateboard the way I

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used to.

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>> Where your bone wouldn't cross union

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lines

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>> one year later. What's that?

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>> It wouldn't cross.

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>> I'm supposed to get a hip replacement at

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some point.

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>> I heard those are Let's do it. Let's do

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I heard those are very effective and

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quick healing.

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>> 55 minutes open to close.

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>> Yeah.

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>> I I've been avoiding it for seven years,

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Tony, because they take a a saw and I

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feore.

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>> I heard I heard it's awesome.

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>> But people

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>> I would rather go through that than my

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femur issue.

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>> No, no, yours would be much worse.

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People who do it always say, "Ah, I

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should have done this a long time ago."

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I like to wait and kind of suffer. It's

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part of my personality. David's like

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that, too. But uh I'm inspired by your

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uh healing, you know, because

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>> at 24, you know, things heal faster.

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>> Yes. But yeah, I learned that you're

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full court. You're full fully around

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now.

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>> Um I'm I'm on my way. I'm not I can't

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say I'm fully

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>> You're not going to push it, are you?

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Doesn't your wife say don't push it

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anymore because you're going to break it

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again?

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>> Uh she is concerned that I that I am

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getting a little too

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uh ambitious

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>> and confident with it. So, I have been

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taking it

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>> as slow as I can. Let's put it that way.

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>> I'm I'm much more aware of it this time.

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>> You're like you're still kind of the old

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gunslinger in a way. I mean, you're the

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guy who invented the sport basically in

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some ways. I mean, thank you. I

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Everything I read it's is Tony Hawk and

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you're a icon. I mean, right. I'm not

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>> Everyone's sick of it. No, I appreciate

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it. Thank you.

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>> You're attached to this.

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>> Everyone's sick of it. You got a point

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there.

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>> But there's a lot of people on our

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podcast. My wife loves

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>> When is he just going to quit? My wife

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loves this podcast

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>> and she she'll know enough about you

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just through our sons that did that and

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I I just for a second before we get into

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all the questions I have. So the

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beginning because I was reading you know

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about your your high IQ and you were

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sort of a difficult like because I'm

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interested in what kind of brain not

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even your physical gifts becomes

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brilliant at something at age 12 9 12 um

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yeah I it was honestly it was just being

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obsessive and determined to a point of

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like to a fault because when I was a kid

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I just was so I wanted to do certain

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things and I didn't have the the body

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for it or whatever, but I was fired up

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>> football. I couldn't do football.

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>> Football. Well, I didn't play football,

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but but baseball, basketball.

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>> I was saying I could do a little bit of

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that. Like I was thinking, what other

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sports you good at? Because I couldn't

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do everything. And I went to

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skateboarding because

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>> in Arizona,

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>> it was that. Yeah.

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>> Well, skateboarding is a culture, too,

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which we'll talk about. I mean, it's

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more than

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>> Sure. And then once I started doing it,

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I kind of fell in love with the misfit

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aspect because I never really felt like

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I fit in with my school. Are you saying

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to me that are you saying Tony that you

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may not have absolute physical gifts

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like someone who could just Larry Bird

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got a basketball and just said came to

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him right away. Eddie Van Halen got his

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son his son his brother's guitar

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>> sat on the bed at 8 a.m. and played till

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midnight.

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>> Right.

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>> It just spoke to him. So when you got on

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the board it just spoke to you and you

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>> spoke to me but but in no way was I a

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natural

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>> a natural. You you you would do that for

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>> I would just do it, but I would just do

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it endlessly. Like I would go I would go

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from school to the skatepark,

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stay there until my mom got off work at

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the she she worked at community college

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>> at 8 or 9:00 p.m. and then she'd have to

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drag me away until they turn the lights

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off.

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>> Did you ever annoy them? Cuz bad

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skateboarding kids are really loud. Like

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they're constantly falling and banging.

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It's not a very relaxing thing as a

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parent watching bad

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>> skateboard. Steel wheels. You weren't

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that far back, were you? Not that far

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back. No.

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>> Did you have a yellow free form with a

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split tail?

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>> No. But

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>> jeez, what's going on, man?

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>> Bane.

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>> I did have a Bane was my first board.

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>> Okay. Okay. You like that, Dane?

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>> What?

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>> You like that [ __ ]

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>> Bane.

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>> Okay. Let me go back.

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>> This guy's legit.

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>> Let me go back to more Larry King type

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stuff.

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>> Yeah, I do.

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>> So, there you have a

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>> We want to get into the weeds of of

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urethane and clay wheels. We have a

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psychological question for him. My son

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had a when I was just talking on the way

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over here, he had he just had a comment.

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He wanted you to comment on this is

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jumping ahead a little bit. The turf war

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at a skate park between the BMXers, the

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Rollerbladers and the skaters, even

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though it's called a skate park.

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>> So, so what what uh will you comment

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please on that, Mr. Mr. Hawk?

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>> I'd say rollerbladers. got lucky in that

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I was a sort of a generation before that

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was happening.

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>> And at some point I got very lucky that

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I was still skating when rollerblading

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started to

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>> be on the rise because

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>> I was struggling to make a living at

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skateboarding and I got to be the

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special guest at rollerblade shows.

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>> This is a rollerblade show but we got

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special guest skateboarder Tony Hawk

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here. Thank God.

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>> That was paying my mortgage, literally.

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>> So, I never had the beef. I saw it. I,

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you know, I I saw it playing out and

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people were whatever, having bad

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stereotypes with everything.

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>> Um, but

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>> I love everyone.

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>> You're like the godfather, though. So,

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if they see you, do you win because

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you're a skater and they're like, "Oh,

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the [ __ ] king is

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>> I don't I is more that I grew up. I grew

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up too, not that grew up, but but

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eventually I was in all the X Games and

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doing all that. And then we were all

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sort of brethren, the BMXers, even the

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inliners. Um,

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>> and the skateboarders because

00:14:33

>> we rode the same terrain and we were all

00:14:35

sort of coming up together.

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>> Yeah.

00:14:37

>> So, I I didn't feel that turf war like

00:14:40

you said.

00:14:41

>> Um, I will say that it's tricky when you

00:14:43

have

00:14:44

>> a lot of BMXers and a lot of skateboard

00:14:46

as a skatepart because BMXers are

00:14:47

silent.

00:14:49

And you can't see them coming. You get

00:14:50

hit.

00:14:51

>> You don't hear them coming. Yeah.

00:14:52

>> Right. Because the rubber tires and

00:14:53

everything.

00:14:54

>> Yeah. So that that can be an issue. And

00:14:56

so I I think that there's a good

00:14:59

>> Some skateparks assign certain days for

00:15:01

bikes and certain days for

00:15:02

skateboarding. I think that helps.

00:15:04

>> It seems to me as a layman that the

00:15:07

rollerblader has the device attached to

00:15:09

his feet. The BMXer is hanging on to the

00:15:12

device,

00:15:13

>> right?

00:15:14

>> And the skateboard guy has to stand on

00:15:16

the [ __ ] thing. And it's like seemed

00:15:18

much harder.

00:15:20

>> Yeah, there's some apples to oranges

00:15:21

there. I got to say

00:15:21

>> I guess I mean I would I was such a

00:15:23

baby. That was when there were steel

00:15:25

wheels back in the 60s. A really steep

00:15:28

hill. Yeah.

00:15:28

>> I'd sometimes just sit on the [ __ ]

00:15:30

>> San used to catamaran down some hills at

00:15:33

the wedge in Arizona

00:15:35

>> and big wipeouts at the end when you

00:15:37

catamaran with your friend and then

00:15:39

>> we would do it down really steep grass

00:15:41

hills just so that we knew cuz we knew

00:15:43

we were going to wipe out

00:15:44

>> and then we just come live.

00:15:46

>> Yeah. Exactly.

00:15:47

>> I I actually uh wiped out at High

00:15:50

Roller. I'll tell you that in a second,

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though. Uh

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>> High Roller Skate Park.

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>> Can we just finish off this uh young

00:15:56

young Tony for a second? Just you're um

00:16:01

you were just a quirky kid. You weren't

00:16:03

a natural athlete. You you got a hold of

00:16:05

a skateboard from from someone in the

00:16:07

neighborhood or you're not older brother

00:16:09

>> and then it just spoke to you. You

00:16:11

became possessed.

00:16:12

>> Yes.

00:16:12

>> And then within

00:16:13

>> Possessed is good. Yes. Within three

00:16:15

years of that, you were world class or

00:16:17

where at 12, it was something or 14. You

00:16:20

It was such a quantum leap.

00:16:21

>> I I started skating around age 10 and

00:16:24

then got really into it. As I

00:16:27

>> dove into it completely,

00:16:30

>> it took a downturn in popularity. So,

00:16:33

sort of like at the time when I was

00:16:35

really starting to come into my own and

00:16:38

fall in love with it, it was all the

00:16:40

world was crumbling away around me. Um,

00:16:43

and so I got sponsored at age 12 by

00:16:46

Dogtown skateboards.

00:16:48

>> Yeah.

00:16:48

>> Which

00:16:49

>> didn't really mean a whole lot. It just

00:16:51

meant that sometimes they would send me

00:16:53

free skateboards. That was pretty much

00:16:54

it. And then I moved up.

00:16:55

>> So no money.

00:16:57

>> No money. No

00:16:58

>> sponsor. I never knew what that meant,

00:16:59

but I thought the coolest one.

00:17:01

>> Free gear.

00:17:02

>> Free gear. And then And then that moved

00:17:03

me up to the sponsor division. And that

00:17:06

kind of lit a fire because suddenly I

00:17:07

was skating with people who are much

00:17:09

more advanced and I had to figure out

00:17:11

how to navigate that. And then I rose to

00:17:15

the top of the amateur ranks in within

00:17:17

two years and then I actually turned pro

00:17:19

at age 14.

00:17:21

>> But but when you turn pro like that what

00:17:23

that means is I was filling out an entry

00:17:25

form to the competition

00:17:27

>> and there's an there's your name and

00:17:29

address and then there's a box that says

00:17:30

amateur and there's a box that says pro.

00:17:32

So I checked the pro box. That was the

00:17:34

only difference. That was it. And then I

00:17:36

was first time you made money or sorry

00:17:38

>> that was competing for $100 first place.

00:17:40

>> Okay.

00:17:41

>> 75 second 50 for third. I got fourth.

00:17:45

>> So no money.

00:17:46

>> No money.

00:17:46

>> Do you remember your first check for

00:17:48

doing this or

00:17:48

>> My first check was 50 bucks when I got

00:17:50

third place.

00:17:50

>> 50 bucks. Yeah. I got paid $3 for my

00:17:52

first set.

00:17:53

>> Oo.

00:17:54

>> Yeah. Money for your first set. That's

00:17:55

pretty rare.

00:17:56

>> Rum Williams was there. I think we It

00:17:58

was $10. I think he took seven. I took

00:18:00

three.

00:18:01

>> Her seven. Oh. Seven. $7. Do you want to

00:18:04

be famous? I asked him. Oh, just want to

00:18:06

play for the people. Never forgot that.

00:18:08

Well, you're playing pretty well. God

00:18:10

rest his soul. Good friend. Anyway,

00:18:12

Tony, that's remarkable. How are your

00:18:14

parents reacting to this? And your

00:18:16

brother, are you is there a sibling

00:18:18

thing? Like Tonyy's a superstar. What?

00:18:20

>> Well, he was he was um he is 13 years

00:18:23

older than me, so he was he was in

00:18:25

college and

00:18:26

>> uh just kind of watched it. Well, he he

00:18:29

was there sometimes, but my parents, I

00:18:32

think they saw what it provided me just

00:18:34

in terms of my sense of self and

00:18:37

self-confidence and finally kind of

00:18:39

focusing all of my energy and

00:18:41

frustrations onto that instead of them.

00:18:43

So they were thankful

00:18:45

>> and they were supportive and and there

00:18:47

were many very few parents were

00:18:49

supportive

00:18:50

>> because of the danger of it or or just

00:18:52

that because of the culture of it like

00:18:54

culture surfer dude

00:18:56

>> and you weren't going to go to school

00:18:57

>> even though there's a rumor you're smart

00:18:59

but we have no proof

00:19:01

>> it says here your IQ is 144 maybe at one

00:19:04

point maybe he's half as high as that

00:19:08

he's incredibly smart he's a chess

00:19:10

champion that was his thing that's

00:19:12

>> that's what I got off of had to go into

00:19:14

skateboarding, which was a mistake. So,

00:19:15

did you

00:19:16

>> Some of us didn't go pro, Tony, and uh

00:19:18

didn't get Ford.

00:19:19

>> So, you got paid $50?

00:19:22

>> Yeah. And then um eventually got my own

00:19:24

skateboard model and that's when I

00:19:26

started receiving royal checks, royalty

00:19:28

checks for between $4 and $5 a month.

00:19:31

>> Four and five a month. That's not too

00:19:32

bad.

00:19:32

>> $485.

00:19:33

>> Did you design it or you How did you get

00:19:35

your own?

00:19:35

>> I designed the shape of it and then my

00:19:37

sponsor Pal Pelta, they designed the

00:19:39

graphics of it. Um, but then

00:19:42

>> something happened in the mid80s where

00:19:44

suddenly skateboarding kind of came

00:19:45

around again

00:19:46

>> and I found myself in high school making

00:19:49

six figures from royalties on those

00:19:52

skateboards.

00:19:52

>> So, you're already an entrepreneur.

00:19:54

You're you're a businessman already as

00:19:56

you're a superstar athlete.

00:19:58

>> Yeah. I didn't see it that way, but

00:19:59

>> but it was just or were other kids doing

00:20:01

it as well? Did you have other Did you

00:20:02

have other dudes or women in the school

00:20:04

that were

00:20:05

>> not in school? No. That was the weird

00:20:07

thing is that there was this resurgence

00:20:09

of skateboarding. It was popular,

00:20:11

>> but not a mainstream or widespread

00:20:14

popularity. So, I was still the outcast

00:20:16

at school. I literally would would hide

00:20:18

my skateboard in the bushes when I go to

00:20:20

school

00:20:20

>> because people would hassle me if I if I

00:20:22

carried around. They they would yell

00:20:24

skater fact.

00:20:25

>> Yeah.

00:20:26

>> And I was I was pro.

00:20:28

>> I was pro. And I was traveling

00:20:30

>> to places like Florida, to places like

00:20:32

Phoenix to go to these big events and

00:20:34

sign autographs and come to school. And

00:20:36

I was a ghost.

00:20:37

>> Can I ask you just a technical question?

00:20:39

>> Yes.

00:20:39

>> Because it would seem to me when I watch

00:20:42

gymnasts and stuff that you you growing

00:20:45

to 6' three, is that an advantage,

00:20:48

disadvantage, or neutral in terms of

00:20:50

doing upside down flips? You have to

00:20:52

have a bigger, you know, the math of

00:20:54

that. When did you get to 63?

00:20:57

>> Uh, not till I was in my late teens. So,

00:21:00

you're becoming a brilliant skateboarder

00:21:02

and you're growing and so you're

00:21:04

adapting your revolutions to that

00:21:06

height.

00:21:06

>> Yeah. And I was still very flexible when

00:21:09

I got tall. So, it was to an advantage

00:21:11

because I finally was able to get speed

00:21:14

>> and get get more height. And because I

00:21:16

could ball up, I could still do those

00:21:18

spins and things but at greater heights.

00:21:20

>> So, your height gap.

00:21:23

>> It helped me. Yeah. I can't say it it's

00:21:24

helped me into my older age, but it

00:21:26

definitely helped me.

00:21:27

>> Interesting. David.

00:21:28

>> Okay. Hey, Mike. Psychological question.

00:21:31

>> I'm the layman. He's a skateboard.

00:21:33

>> Is now uh when you grew up in San Diego

00:21:36

and what was the park in Carl's? Was it

00:21:38

Big O? What's not?

00:21:40

>> Uh so there was Oasis skate park in San

00:21:42

Diego

00:21:43

>> and then that closed and then uh Delmare

00:21:45

Skate Ranch was the last one park in

00:21:48

that era. Yeah.

00:21:48

>> Okay. So let's say Tony remember Vans.

00:21:51

>> Do you remember? Yeah. That's much

00:21:53

later.

00:21:54

>> For one of my kids birthdays, I bought

00:21:57

the place.

00:21:57

>> Which one? Ontario or

00:21:59

>> down?

00:22:00

It was like Mil Pedis or something.

00:22:02

South Peninsula.

00:22:03

>> Yeah, that was

00:22:04

>> Vans. That made him the coolest kid in

00:22:06

school.

00:22:06

>> That was a good part.

00:22:08

>> Yeah.

00:22:13

>> Now, let's say because I did get to golf

00:22:16

with Tiger Woods. Let's say he's the

00:22:18

best in golf. That's sort of generally

00:22:20

known. And you are, let's say, generally

00:22:22

known as the best skater. Uh, is it a is

00:22:25

it something in you that makes you not

00:22:27

want to give up? number one because you

00:22:28

still skate. You don't really have to

00:22:29

skate anymore. You could stop and

00:22:32

>> Well, I never did it for fame or

00:22:34

fortune.

00:22:35

>> You still like it.

00:22:36

>> But those thing those things weren't

00:22:37

even dreams.

00:22:39

>> No, I I have the same I asked my wife,

00:22:41

did I ever talk about being rich or

00:22:42

famous? Never. I was in the club and I

00:22:44

just wanted to be the best guy in that

00:22:46

club. So, I totally relate to that.

00:22:47

>> But in skateboarding, no one was rich or

00:22:49

famous when I started. That wasn't that,

00:22:51

you know, no one could aspire to what do

00:22:53

you aspire to? I don't know. I'm going

00:22:54

to be pro. Okay. No one's making money.

00:22:56

you get that $100 check.

00:22:58

>> Yeah.

00:22:58

>> And you're in the magazine. And so, um,

00:23:00

that was never the motivation. And so,

00:23:02

having come this far and having success

00:23:05

I would have never dreamed, I still just

00:23:07

want to skate. I mean, it really is what

00:23:09

you want to push it.

00:23:10

>> You're the first superstar.

00:23:12

>> I think I've turned a corner on that to

00:23:14

be honest. I mean, you've proven

00:23:15

everything, but I guess it's still fun

00:23:16

to be like, you're still as good as

00:23:18

everyone. We go to comedy clubs, you

00:23:19

still want to do as good as these guys,

00:23:21

you know? It's the same thing.

00:23:21

>> Sure. Yeah. I I can't That's the thing,

00:23:23

though. I can't phone it in and

00:23:26

>> and everyone's watching you.

00:23:27

>> I can't. Yeah. And so if I were to feel

00:23:30

like I'm not really of a professional

00:23:32

level, I wouldn't do it in public or on

00:23:34

camera.

00:23:35

>> Yeah.

00:23:35

>> Um but I'm I'm still walk the walk.

00:23:38

>> I totally relate to what you're saying.

00:23:41

You know, when I go to do a day, I I

00:23:44

can't help. I just want to dominate, but

00:23:46

it's it's not in an unfair way. Like you

00:23:48

have your peers

00:23:49

>> just to do but to do your personal best.

00:23:51

>> Yeah. Yeah. Not because you want to

00:23:53

destroy everyone else.

00:23:53

>> No. No. But it's it's it becomes a de

00:23:55

facto comedy competition sometimes and

00:23:57

there's a lot of subjectivity to it when

00:23:59

10 guys go on and we're supposed to be

00:24:01

just hanging out at the comedy store

00:24:03

doing our sets but it's always like

00:24:04

you're the best setter. He couldn't

00:24:06

follow you. It's a gunslinger thing,

00:24:08

right?

00:24:08

>> But yeah,

00:24:10

>> it's not as much Dave and I we don't

00:24:11

>> Well, I did enjoy you guys after Chris

00:24:13

Rock.

00:24:14

>> Oh, you saw I saw that. Yeah.

00:24:15

>> Did you sense the awkwardness cuz we

00:24:17

were Caucasians?

00:24:19

>> No, I think you guys handled it very

00:24:20

well. I didn't want anyone to figure

00:24:22

that out, but they did right away.

00:24:24

>> Well, they were. Yeah, it was uh it was

00:24:26

good. We were there to facilitate, but

00:24:29

um you know, I can't join in on those

00:24:31

conversations and

00:24:32

>> No, but I thought you guys did a good

00:24:33

job.

00:24:34

>> We wanted to joke. First of all, we

00:24:35

liked everybody there. All the the panel

00:24:36

was cool. We hung with him all day and

00:24:38

JB's funny.

00:24:40

>> He came out of his shell that night.

00:24:43

>> Finally, for the first time, poking and

00:24:46

proddding.

00:24:46

>> Yeah. The guy

00:24:47

>> he lit his cigar backstage. He'd held it

00:24:49

for 20 years. That's right.

00:24:51

That went so good. I'm going to light

00:24:53

this up. I said JB, you are smooth.

00:24:56

>> Was smooth. He was nice.

00:24:57

>> We know and we've known Chris, David,

00:24:59

especially close with Chris, but known

00:25:01

him since 1990. And uh

00:25:04

>> that was sort of how it came about. Like

00:25:06

we had a podcast. We're always we're

00:25:08

together anyway. SNL, it's Chris. We're

00:25:10

all buddies. Let's put a panel together.

00:25:13

Let's I guess they want to make the

00:25:14

event bigger. So why not? We'll talk

00:25:16

about it. But there's some stuff in

00:25:18

there. If I had some heavy controversial

00:25:20

opinions, I would say them. I But I

00:25:22

didn't really I just watched the jokes,

00:25:24

liked them, said a few funny things, but

00:25:26

when it got really heavy things, I don't

00:25:29

want to comment. I mean, I want to let

00:25:30

them talk. And that was the same thesis,

00:25:34

but it happened to Chris and he owned it

00:25:35

and expanded it. But I thought it was

00:25:39

always about something else, that anger,

00:25:41

right, with the wife. I mean, it was

00:25:44

pretty obvious, but he laid it out

00:25:45

perfectly. And what was fascinating to

00:25:47

me is that

00:25:49

very rarely does the world watch quote

00:25:52

unquote the world and we all know the

00:25:54

story. We all saw the slap and all the

00:25:56

reaction and then a year later we have a

00:25:58

guy who got connected to it in such a

00:26:01

way cuz Chris doesn't

00:26:03

>> flood lines. But I think the emotion was

00:26:05

so strong at that moment which made it

00:26:07

better because it's live and real that

00:26:10

this was a more than a mic drop. He was

00:26:12

working some stuff out

00:26:14

>> and um it you know I he just wondered

00:26:18

casually is this is this over now or

00:26:20

>> I mean me another special next year.

00:26:22

>> We've all been bullied. Me and Chris

00:26:24

used to talk about I was pushed around

00:26:25

Arizona. I was always a pipsqueak and I

00:26:27

hated it and Chris hated it and uh I'm

00:26:29

sure Dana got a little bit of it.

00:26:31

>> Well no no no way more I got bullied by

00:26:34

a grown man knocked out and [ __ ] Yeah.

00:26:38

>> Yeah. And so when you get like that, I

00:26:39

can see when things like that set you

00:26:41

off, road rage, [ __ ] because people try

00:26:43

to [ __ ] with me. They'll hit on a date

00:26:45

right in front of me. They'll go, is

00:26:46

this guy going to say anything? Or

00:26:47

they'll say that you're not going to do

00:26:48

[ __ ] And that anger builds up over your

00:26:50

whole life. And so Chris getting that on

00:26:53

stage at the Oscars. In my head, I was

00:26:55

like, I I don't know if I could continue

00:26:57

life. It just be it's so humiliating.

00:26:59

And then you don't fight back. Should I

00:27:00

have should? So you go on and on and

00:27:03

Will I thought got off pretty easy

00:27:05

because banning from the Oscars is one

00:27:07

thing, but banning from getting an Oscar

00:27:08

is I thought should be stronger for a

00:27:10

couple years.

00:27:11

>> Yeah, he doesn't have to go to the silly

00:27:12

show.

00:27:13

>> Who cares? Go to the Vandy Fairy. Just

00:27:14

wait and watch me walk in and

00:27:15

>> they'll bring it in on a platter.

00:27:17

>> Yeah, I saw him there after the Vandy

00:27:18

Fair. Then I saw Chris

00:27:20

and uh Chris was pretty cool.

00:27:23

>> So I I saw Chris the next morning.

00:27:25

>> Where were you?

00:27:25

>> I was staying up here and I saw him at

00:27:28

breakfast.

00:27:28

>> Oh, you did?

00:27:29

>> Yeah. and he was alone at a table and I

00:27:31

changed alone. Well, tell us what you

00:27:34

said to him.

00:27:34

>> I just said I thought that you handled

00:27:37

that like a maestro

00:27:38

>> and um he said yeah I don't had anything

00:27:41

to do with with me but he but he already

00:27:43

had a clear piece of you know I wasn't

00:27:45

>> yeah he has his own history with with

00:27:49

sit on it for a year it was it's it's

00:27:52

got to drive him crazy but at least he

00:27:53

let it all out and it was it was great.

00:27:55

I feel like he's

00:27:56

>> I think that was a literal mic drop. I

00:27:59

don't think he he got it all out. I

00:28:01

don't think he has anything else to say,

00:28:02

but I hope it continues. People have

00:28:04

said to David and I if we had a real

00:28:06

feud, this podcast would blow up.

00:28:08

>> I know. We're trying.

00:28:10

>> So, I'm trying to find a way to get mad

00:28:11

at him. Pretty mellow. You want to be

00:28:13

part of it. It's a wedge here. Listen to

00:28:14

me.

00:28:14

>> It's pretty mellow. I'm trying to work

00:28:16

up anger, but

00:28:18

I want to have credit for that. No, but

00:28:20

what you say about bullying, I mean, and

00:28:23

in our day, it was you just you got

00:28:24

picked on.

00:28:25

>> Yeah.

00:28:25

>> I just They're always picking on me. you

00:28:27

know, we pick on him and that that was

00:28:29

totally accepted.

00:28:30

>> Yeah. And

00:28:31

>> there's no re there were no resources.

00:28:32

>> And a lot of it is not grandiose. Like a

00:28:34

lot of it is just the uh the guy in the

00:28:36

locker room just takes the back of your

00:28:38

neck and just just quickly just pushes

00:28:40

you down to the floor. There's

00:28:43

>> knowing you're going to do nothing.

00:28:44

>> Cuz I was so small. They would pick me

00:28:45

up in the hallway and spin me around

00:28:47

once.

00:28:48

>> By the way, nothing more humiliating.

00:28:50

>> Now that's why you were so great doing

00:28:52

360. You got to thank the guys.

00:28:54

>> Let's go. Wait, let's go two and a half

00:28:56

this time. Listen up to a 900.

00:28:58

>> Tony Hawk became brilliant because of

00:29:00

bullies who would flip him, throw him in

00:29:02

the air, throw him across the room, roll

00:29:04

him down the hill. By the time you got

00:29:06

on a skateboard, you go, "No one's

00:29:07

trying to hit me."

00:29:08

>> I don't think you get picked up like I

00:29:09

do. When people pick me up at a party, I

00:29:12

[ __ ] flip out. And to this day, it

00:29:13

happens. I go, "If you pick me up, we're

00:29:15

dead for life. We're not friends ever

00:29:16

again."

00:29:17

>> It's like the most humiliating [ __ ]

00:29:19

>> Picked up, too. Yeah. And they'd throw

00:29:20

you against the locker.

00:29:21

>> I had a girl pick up my mom. That's it.

00:29:23

That's after I came my pants I said this

00:29:26

is over

00:29:31

surprise ending

00:29:33

happy surprise. So Tony

00:29:36

>> well Tony

00:29:37

>> Tony um

00:29:38

>> no let's ask him about uh the movie we

00:29:40

did. We have to talk about

00:29:41

>> Oh yeah. Okay. Well I just so you got

00:29:43

I'm still so fascinated how well just to

00:29:46

make one obser one obs casual

00:29:48

observation. The sport is went for a

00:29:51

while. Yeah. you come up, you're

00:29:53

emerging right as the sport is going.

00:29:55

And so you're the first that I don't

00:29:57

know if there's a second or there are

00:29:59

these after superstars, but to the

00:30:01

casual observer, you are skating and

00:30:04

you're who

00:30:06

>> how many people their name is a brand.

00:30:08

>> It's funny because I don't know I, you

00:30:09

know, I know skating. I know some names,

00:30:11

but

00:30:11

>> it's synonymous with Tony at that level.

00:30:14

I don't

00:30:15

>> Well, I I can tell you I I credit a lot

00:30:17

of that for a successful video game.

00:30:20

>> Oh, that's right. I think your name is

00:30:21

>> because our our game

00:30:23

>> in huge letters

00:30:24

>> had had huge success.

00:30:26

>> Gigantic. Yeah.

00:30:27

>> That was where you made the most money,

00:30:28

right?

00:30:28

>> Oh, yeah. And people would would see my

00:30:32

name synonymous with a successful video

00:30:34

game. So, that kind of added to the

00:30:36

recognition factor.

00:30:37

>> Well, that's the cool thing is that

00:30:39

you're the video game guy and then

00:30:40

you're still actually the best guy can

00:30:43

physically do it. Doesn't always happen.

00:30:44

So, that that's that's so much power.

00:30:46

So, how did the video game quickly how

00:30:48

did that come about? They approached

00:30:49

you. you got to a certain level and a

00:30:51

company approached you and were you in

00:30:53

on the design of it and so forth and so

00:30:54

on.

00:30:55

>> Uh so I was actually working with a PC

00:30:59

programmer who came to me and said,

00:31:01

"Hey, I have an idea for a skateboard

00:31:02

game."

00:31:03

>> Nerd,

00:31:03

>> what's up?

00:31:04

>> Nerd. Nerd.

00:31:06

>> Two. We were two nerds.

00:31:08

>> Nerd alert.

00:31:09

>> Literally knocking on doors. We were

00:31:11

going to console manufacturers. We're

00:31:13

going to software companies and saying,

00:31:14

"How do we do this?" Uh, so this was n

00:31:17

like around 97 96 97.

00:31:20

>> So you're huge though at that point,

00:31:22

right?

00:31:22

>> Um,

00:31:23

>> yeah. Well, I there was there's sort of

00:31:25

a gap in in skating's popularity in the

00:31:28

early '90s. So it went underground very

00:31:31

much so and that's kind of when street

00:31:32

skating emerged.

00:31:33

>> Okay.

00:31:34

>> So this game they don't come to you

00:31:35

fully formed. They say go with us

00:31:37

together.

00:31:38

>> This he and I went to meetings and we

00:31:40

just got shut down everywhere we went.

00:31:42

They said skateboarding is not popular.

00:31:44

Why would anyone want to play a

00:31:45

skateboarding game?

00:31:46

>> Okay.

00:31:47

>> Uh and and at the time there weren't

00:31:49

>> that many home consoles. There were

00:31:51

there were some, but not it wasn't.

00:31:53

>> Did you go to Nintendo or so? He gave

00:31:56

up. He got frustrated. Okay.

00:31:58

>> And he he actually told me he said,

00:32:00

"Look, I I got to find a job, but um I

00:32:02

feel like we've made some some headway

00:32:04

in terms of putting your name out there

00:32:07

that you're interested in doing this and

00:32:08

then maybe something will come of that."

00:32:10

I remember thinking, "Yeah, okay, buddy.

00:32:11

Sure." And then almost a year later, uh,

00:32:15

Activision called me and said, "Hey, we

00:32:17

heard you want to do a video game." I

00:32:19

said, "Well, yes, very much so." They

00:32:21

said, "Well, we are doing a video game

00:32:23

of skateboarding,

00:32:24

>> and we'd like your input or to see if

00:32:26

you want to get involved." So, I went up

00:32:27

to Activision,

00:32:28

>> and they were working on this game that

00:32:31

was based on an engine that they had

00:32:32

already made for a game called um,

00:32:34

Apocalypse, starring Bruce Willis.

00:32:36

>> Okay. It was the first game that had a

00:32:39

celebrity lookalike or Mhm.

00:32:42

>> you know avatar I guess they not the

00:32:45

movie but literal

00:32:46

>> and his voice and but it didn't do very

00:32:48

well but the engine was perfect for

00:32:50

skateboarding

00:32:51

>> the engineot

00:32:53

the motion in the game.

00:32:55

>> So the first time I ever played what

00:32:57

became Tony Ox pro skater was was Bruce

00:32:59

Willis on a skateboard with a gun on his

00:33:02

back

00:33:04

>> doing kick flips.

00:33:05

>> Okay. like through a desert

00:33:06

>> and it was Bruce Wills. That's a start.

00:33:07

>> Yeah, that was it.

00:33:08

>> Were was there breakthrough moments or

00:33:11

an epiphany like how how to make a

00:33:13

skateboard thing as exciting as a war or

00:33:16

something?

00:33:16

>> Well, when I played the game, I knew

00:33:19

then like this is the way it should

00:33:21

>> cuz you're feeling it.

00:33:22

>> I'm feeling it and it was intuitive.

00:33:24

Suddenly I was doing tricks right away.

00:33:26

>> So I thought with my

00:33:27

>> with my resources we could probably make

00:33:29

something that is legitimate. I I wasn't

00:33:31

thinking it was gonna go gang busters

00:33:33

because I still heard those voices

00:33:34

saying, "Who would want to play a

00:33:35

skateboard game?"

00:33:36

>> Right.

00:33:36

>> And when I told them, I had a Nintendo

00:33:38

64 at the time and I said, "Oh, we're

00:33:40

gonna make this for Nintendo 64." And

00:33:41

they go, "No, we're making this for

00:33:42

PlayStation."

00:33:44

>> PlayStation.

00:33:45

>> There's a million PlayStations out

00:33:46

there.

00:33:47

>> There aren't a million Nintendo 64s. And

00:33:49

so I went along with that, obviously.

00:33:52

>> Another smart idea.

00:33:53

>> Not long after when the when it had

00:33:55

success in the beginning, they called

00:33:57

me. They said, "You get your wish. We're

00:33:59

going to do Nintendo 64.

00:34:01

>> Great.

00:34:01

>> I was like, "Cool." And then we ended up

00:34:02

doing all the systems.

00:34:04

>> And did the first guy you wet the beak

00:34:06

on him a little bit or not? Did he go

00:34:07

away for good?

00:34:08

>> Show business term, wet the beak.

00:34:10

>> Give a little money, little taste.

00:34:13

>> No, I felt bad for that guy.

00:34:14

>> Oh, he's totally

00:34:15

>> Well, so you had gross points. I mean, I

00:34:18

don't know, whatever. But you're an

00:34:19

owner. You're an owner. And so being an

00:34:21

owner is king.

00:34:22

>> And um

00:34:23

>> Oh, yeah. I mean, it changed my life. So

00:34:25

it just starts rolling in and then it

00:34:27

gets bigger.

00:34:28

tax by the time the fourth game. No, I

00:34:31

remember my first I remember writing my

00:34:33

first check to the IRS and thinking this

00:34:36

is more this is more than the money I'd

00:34:39

ever think I'd made in my lifetime.

00:34:42

>> I was giving to the IRS

00:34:44

the rich pay their fair share. The only

00:34:46

one who did is Tony Hawk. Tony Hawk on

00:34:49

this. Yeah, I could forgotten the

00:34:51

loopholes.

00:34:52

>> That was Joe Biden. Sorry.

00:34:54

>> He gets it. Anyway, well, everything

00:34:56

seems to be going well at this point in

00:34:57

your existence. The game has kicked ass.

00:34:59

You've won so many X games, world

00:35:01

champion.

00:35:02

>> Um,

00:35:03

>> done a lot of commercials.

00:35:05

>> You land a 900 at at some point. How

00:35:09

long did it take you when I saw

00:35:11

>> How big a deal was that for you?

00:35:12

>> Uh, that was Well, that was for me that

00:35:15

was my best uh exit from competition.

00:35:19

>> So, you you were thinking I'm gonna land

00:35:21

this and

00:35:22

>> and that wasn't there was no plan. Oh,

00:35:24

>> it it was all spontaneous that night,

00:35:26

honestly.

00:35:28

>> So, you just thought So, just because I

00:35:30

was trying to explain it to my wife and

00:35:32

my sons, you're going up in the air

00:35:34

really, really high. You're going a full

00:35:37

revolution of your body, another full

00:35:39

revolution, and then a half a

00:35:41

revolution, which you know, 360, 360,

00:35:44

180, and then hit it. Right. And that

00:35:47

was a little Mount Everest kind of thing

00:35:50

or

00:35:50

>> um for me at that time, yeah, because

00:35:52

it's something that I had been trying

00:35:54

>> off and on for 10 years. Um I did I did

00:35:58

the first 720 in 1985

00:36:00

>> and that was huge at the time.

00:36:02

>> Um

00:36:03

>> yeah, for sure.

00:36:04

>> I mean in the skateboard world, but the

00:36:06

skateboard world wasn't huge. Okay.

00:36:08

>> There were no X games. There was no

00:36:09

social media. So Okay. So no one really

00:36:10

>> Does it have to be filmed or do they

00:36:12

take your word for it? I got a sequence

00:36:14

of it that I mean back then there was

00:36:16

bones brigade videos were out kind of

00:36:18

but really it was more about did did it

00:36:20

get in the magazine.

00:36:21

>> So I got a small sequence in

00:36:23

>> Thrasher teach all those photos like

00:36:24

that. Yeah.

00:36:25

>> I got a small sequence in Thrasher doing

00:36:26

a 720.

00:36:27

>> [ __ ] yeah. I probably saw I think

00:36:29

>> on a backyard ramp in Sweden.

00:36:31

>> So when you landed the 900 what kind

00:36:33

what competition were you

00:36:34

>> that was at the XY at the X Game. So

00:36:36

that was global television.

00:36:37

>> What?

00:36:38

>> I said what kind of [ __ ] did you get? I

00:36:40

thought that's what you're saying.

00:36:42

for mature audiences only. Is that on

00:36:44

the video game?

00:36:44

>> I thought that's where you're headed.

00:36:46

>> Not quite.

00:36:47

>> No. So you do the I get all serious. So

00:36:49

wait, so you do

00:36:51

>> you're you're so to answer questions.

00:36:54

He's out there.

00:36:55

>> To answer your question, I was trying it

00:36:56

off and on. I couldn't figure it out. I

00:36:58

got hurt a couple times doing it. And

00:36:59

then when that event happened in 99, it

00:37:02

was the best trick event. And I had one

00:37:05

trick planned for that event, which was

00:37:07

not the 900.

00:37:08

>> It was a variation of a 720. And I I

00:37:11

made that early on.

00:37:12

>> So I had 10 minutes to kill in this

00:37:15

event. And the announcer, the live

00:37:18

announcer for the audience that was

00:37:20

there said, "Why don't we see ONE OF

00:37:22

THOSE 900S?" AND I was like, "Great."

00:37:25

>> Like now I'm on the spot.

00:37:26

>> Crowd.

00:37:27

>> Okay. Yeah. I watched this last night.

00:37:29

>> This isn't the one where you kept trying

00:37:31

it. Is that the one?

00:37:32

>> I kept trying. Yeah. That's one where

00:37:34

you go over and over and

00:37:35

>> like your 10th one and then they all

00:37:37

bobbed

00:37:37

>> and everyone almost gave up and then

00:37:39

>> you kept doing

00:37:40

>> well I was I think I think after my

00:37:43

third or fourth attempt I realized that

00:37:45

>> this is the closest I've ever gotten. So

00:37:48

I'm there's no way I'm going to give up.

00:37:50

It's either I'm going to make this or

00:37:51

they're going to take me away or you're

00:37:52

going to get hurt or something.

00:37:53

>> What do you think? Are you thinking

00:37:54

right as you take off like to get height

00:37:57

right to get as high? Uh there there's

00:37:59

there's kind there's a bunch of

00:38:01

elements, but speed for sure. It's got

00:38:03

to be a certain height to get that much

00:38:05

spin rotation.

00:38:07

>> Um the snap is when the the moment you

00:38:11

leave

00:38:12

>> the ramp. Yeah.

00:38:13

>> You got to have a snap where you you hit

00:38:15

your tail and you grab the board at the

00:38:17

exact same time.

00:38:19

>> And if that doesn't happen, your board

00:38:20

just flies away immediately and you're

00:38:22

stuck kind of spinning in space.

00:38:23

>> Oh, right as you're about to go

00:38:24

airborne, you got to grab your board. So

00:38:26

you're attached to it. And so if you get

00:38:28

a good snap, then somewhere in the

00:38:30

middle of the spin, you have to shift

00:38:31

your weight towards the front foot. That

00:38:34

was the part that I couldn't figure out

00:38:35

all those years.

00:38:36

>> Whoa.

00:38:37

>> Oh, interesting.

00:38:38

>> And so I mean, sorry, not not the

00:38:40

towards towards the back foot. So you

00:38:42

spinning if you if you just spin the way

00:38:45

that you take off and try to land,

00:38:46

you're too

00:38:47

>> topheavy.

00:38:48

>> So I had to figure out how to sort of

00:38:50

shift my weight to the back foot mid

00:38:52

spin.

00:38:53

>> And that's what you see me working out

00:38:54

at.

00:38:54

>> You mean when you land, you'll go face

00:38:56

first. She won't.

00:38:57

>> I did go face first the first time I

00:38:58

ever tried to make it.

00:38:59

>> So that's why you go I got to be I got

00:39:01

to be

00:39:01

>> with the weight on the back foot. It

00:39:02

seemed like when you did do it, you did

00:39:04

sort of a squat and you it you

00:39:06

>> Yeah. Well, that was me

00:39:06

overcompensating,

00:39:08

>> right? But you didn't leave the board.

00:39:09

You set the record. But that was like

00:39:11

Yeah. Interesting. Wow.

00:39:13

>> Yeah. You um you know cuz I do when I

00:39:15

used to skate. It's fun to watch once I

00:39:18

quit because you sort of know a little

00:39:20

bit about it enough to know which tricks

00:39:22

are hard. So when I see Instagram and

00:39:23

I'm like god damn like it got so beyond

00:39:26

what I could ever do. I was I was

00:39:28

>> it's video games now. Like the tricks

00:39:30

that you see

00:39:31

>> I can't imagine

00:39:32

>> on Instagram or the or the pros that you

00:39:33

see out there especially street skaters.

00:39:35

It's the kind of thing that we did on

00:39:37

our video game in combos as a joke

00:39:39

>> cuz you know you could never do it.

00:39:40

>> Yeah. No, no one will ever do this and

00:39:42

now they're doing it.

00:39:43

>> Is the equipment gotten better then or

00:39:45

or is there

00:39:46

>> uh the equipment hasn't changed the

00:39:48

same?

00:39:49

>> It seems about the same. I think they

00:39:50

have like they have, you know, plates on

00:39:53

track shoes, people running four-minute

00:39:55

miles, high schoolers, you know, carbon.

00:39:59

Okay. So, it's they're all about the

00:40:01

same weight. They're all about the same.

00:40:02

>> It's also like when you think about the

00:40:04

generations that have come before, they

00:40:07

the generation coming in now establishes

00:40:09

that, oh, a 900 is possible or these

00:40:12

these tricks, these combos are reality.

00:40:14

So, that's the baseline of which to

00:40:16

start.

00:40:17

>> You could even go crazier.

00:40:18

>> Yeah. you know, uh, they used to have

00:40:20

these things, Dana, called skyhooks. So,

00:40:23

if that was Abdul,

00:40:24

>> Tony knows what it is. If you, if I I

00:40:26

was like, it was hard for me to when I

00:40:28

got to doing aerials

00:40:29

>> at the old high roller skate park in

00:40:32

Arizona. And so, when you have to leave

00:40:34

the top of the pool, that's being a

00:40:37

colossal [ __ ] This is a doctor telling

00:40:38

me this.

00:40:39

>> That's three [ __ ] on this uh,

00:40:41

>> no, that's just saying I am not tough.

00:40:43

So,

00:40:44

>> Oh, with different connotations. Yeah.

00:40:45

Totally different meanings every time.

00:40:46

>> It's a fear thing. Dana, why once you

00:40:48

leave the town?

00:40:49

>> Come on, don't be a baby. I'll be my

00:40:51

dad.

00:40:51

>> It's too scary. And then so I wiped out

00:40:53

a high roller trying to do an aerial

00:40:55

axle stall. I think I've told Tony this

00:40:57

before. And so I

00:40:58

>> which but to his credit, it's a pretty

00:41:00

gnarly trick.

00:41:00

>> It's a hard trick.

00:41:01

>> It's hard and it's dangerous.

00:41:02

>> And so you go up land I think David

00:41:04

Andre someone did that good speed. You

00:41:05

go up off David and

00:41:07

>> you go up out of the pool. It was a It

00:41:08

was a pool at the skatepark and you go

00:41:09

up and you land on your axles and then

00:41:11

you drop back in.

00:41:13

>> Landing is the hard part. dropping it. I

00:41:14

could probably do, but I missed it and I

00:41:16

wiped out and I fell backwards into the

00:41:17

pool and broke both wrists. Now,

00:41:21

>> everyone uh uh all the concerned skaters

00:41:24

go, "Get the [ __ ] out of the bowl."

00:41:26

>> Yes.

00:41:27

>> So, cuz I was laying there broken wrist.

00:41:30

>> I had to drag my board up and it's hard

00:41:31

to walk up from the deep end of the

00:41:33

shallow. It's like slippery.

00:41:35

>> So, I get out and I'm laying on my

00:41:37

brother's we had the Lee car and Andy

00:41:39

got mad cuz we just got to the skate

00:41:41

park. We had two hours. And so I'm

00:41:43

laying in the car on the on the

00:41:44

windshield and uh Andy they go get Andy,

00:41:47

my brother, because he saw me. He goes,

00:41:49

"I'll just go in the car. We're out of

00:41:50

here in two hours." And so

00:41:53

the the the skate park person saw me

00:41:55

kind of shaking on the car. I didn't say

00:41:57

anything. I knew I was in trouble. And

00:41:58

then they went and got Andy and he comes

00:42:00

and throws his helmet and he goes, "What

00:42:01

the [ __ ] You're fine, right?" And I go,

00:42:03

"Yeah." And they go, "No, you got to

00:42:04

take him home. You can't stay." And he

00:42:06

goes, "Fuck." So he he throws me in the

00:42:09

car and he goes he goes, "I'm going

00:42:11

back." So he dropped me to my stepdad

00:42:14

>> and Oh, he went back this morning.

00:42:15

>> He went back. Yeah. And then I sat there

00:42:17

and then my stepdad was buzzed because

00:42:19

it was night. He was just drinking this

00:42:20

morning

00:42:21

>> and he took me to this clinic and

00:42:24

x-rayed him and I saw a crack down both

00:42:25

of them around his corner. I look around

00:42:26

the corner. I go, "Hm." I didn't even go

00:42:28

to med school. I see something going on.

00:42:31

He goes, "Let's sit on this."

00:42:33

>> He was drunk. I go, "What? What are we

00:42:35

waiting for?" So I lay down and I don't,

00:42:37

you know, we don't have Vikings back

00:42:38

then. We don't have anything. So I'm

00:42:39

just laying there sort of whimpering.

00:42:42

>> I was whimpering. And then uh the next

00:42:44

day my mom goes, "Take them in and do

00:42:46

something." So he just gave me splints.

00:42:48

>> So then the first day of school I went

00:42:50

as a freshman I had two splints but I

00:42:52

look like a badass. I had my quick

00:42:54

silvers. I had my [ __ ] OP shirt

00:42:56

carrying skateboard.

00:42:58

>> I didn't We got injured in different

00:42:59

ways. Like my brother

00:43:00

>> popped the wheelie. That's what we do on

00:43:02

our pop the wheelie. The wheel comes

00:43:04

off. Chips his

00:43:05

>> teeth. Yeah. The forks go down. You go

00:43:08

uh oh. This is just a

00:43:09

>> So, he's like got fangs for a while.

00:43:10

They finally got him, you know, caps on

00:43:13

him. And then he's doing a Duncan

00:43:15

Imperial going with the yo-yo. Boom.

00:43:18

Broke him again. That's twice. You guys

00:43:22

were dared slinky.

00:43:24

>> Then he got a slinky. He lost an ear.

00:43:27

Look, I don't want to go into the

00:43:29

carvey. We were rough and tumble 60s

00:43:31

kids. It wasn't Nothing was Nothing was

00:43:34

safe. Trust me. I knocked my teeth out,

00:43:36

my front teeth, uh, five times.

00:43:38

>> God dang. Are you really?

00:43:41

>> Yeah. But the cool thing about that is

00:43:43

every time you knock them out, you can

00:43:45

choose the size and the color.

00:43:46

>> Oh, the only You have a very positive

00:43:49

value.

00:43:49

>> But in your adult life, that's that's a

00:43:51

thing, right? So,

00:43:52

>> how many bones do you have broken in

00:43:53

your body? Everyone wants to know.

00:43:54

Everybody,

00:43:56

>> four officially.

00:43:57

>> Four officially.

00:43:58

>> Yeah. my pelvis, my elbow, uh my femur,

00:44:02

and um well, I broke my thumb basically.

00:44:05

>> Concussions.

00:44:06

>> How many bruises roughly

00:44:08

>> concussions?

00:44:08

>> I had I had many.

00:44:11

>> My son did

00:44:14

ramp rats with BMX bike.

00:44:16

>> I You know, you find out later, but he

00:44:18

was out cold for three minutes once.

00:44:21

>> Yeah.

00:44:22

>> Well, concussions weren't talked about a

00:44:24

lot in the old days.

00:44:25

>> No, no, you just hit your head hard.

00:44:26

They didn't know, you know. Yeah. Yeah.

00:44:28

You got you got a spell wrong.

00:44:29

>> But they say multiple hard hits is the

00:44:31

hardest thing on your brain.

00:44:32

>> Uh well or in the hundreds

00:44:34

>> in in succession.

00:44:36

>> Yeah.

00:44:36

>> Yeah. Where it's one after the other the

00:44:38

in a short time. Yes. Absolutely. And

00:44:40

and

00:44:41

>> um I I've been proactive in that and

00:44:42

I've I've had the tests and to see if

00:44:44

I'm at risk for Alzheimer's and it seems

00:44:48

that I'm doing all right.

00:44:48

>> I see a lot of dudes in these Instagram

00:44:50

with no helmets doing some gnarly stuff.

00:44:52

>> Yes.

00:44:52

>> Little scary. It's kind of a skateboard

00:44:54

cool thing to do, but

00:44:55

>> it is not the smartest thing.

00:44:57

>> They were trying to when they put

00:44:59

skateboarding in the Olympics there

00:45:00

there was a there was a movement which I

00:45:04

found odd to not have helmets in the

00:45:07

park event.

00:45:08

>> Yeah, you can z where people are flying.

00:45:12

>> Yeah. You're doing rail. That's it when

00:45:14

it's flat. You're saying when it's just

00:45:15

street stuff?

00:45:16

>> Not when it's street. They they're

00:45:17

they're not. But what they were saying

00:45:19

is park event we shouldn't have to wear

00:45:21

pads. And I was like, "You guys are I I

00:45:23

was I was not in the conversation, but

00:45:25

so you guys are flying 10 ft above 10

00:45:28

foot pools. That's Yeah,

00:45:30

>> I don't think it's going to go well for

00:45:31

the general audience."

00:45:33

>> Yeah.

00:45:34

>> No, it's not like it's supposed to be

00:45:35

kind of a fun game.

00:45:36

>> I picture parents going, "Yeah, you're

00:45:38

never going to do that."

00:45:45

Does the skateboarding culture does it

00:45:47

overlap with surfing in a way or is that

00:45:49

a bad vibe that it also it's not

00:45:52

necessarily a cannabis culture?

00:45:54

>> It was kind of Oh. Uh well I I'd say

00:45:57

skateboarding is so diverse now that I

00:45:59

wouldn't just zero in on something like

00:46:02

that. I I I feel like this definitely

00:46:04

has been associated with skating.

00:46:06

>> But they they had the phrase surfer bum.

00:46:08

Do they have skater bum?

00:46:09

>> Um, skate rat I think is

00:46:12

>> skate rat is more like to just someone

00:46:13

who lives.

00:46:14

>> But I think on the outside, especially

00:46:15

in the in those days when skating wasn't

00:46:18

very popular. There was a there was a

00:46:20

sort of view of skating that was, oh,

00:46:22

they're slackers, they're they wake up

00:46:25

late, they're stoners, right?

00:46:26

>> And I guess you could view it like that,

00:46:28

but I feel like skating requires so much

00:46:30

discipline that that was sort of being

00:46:32

ignored.

00:46:33

>> It's very technical.

00:46:34

>> That's true. We we were sort of outliers

00:46:36

because you didn't fit in anywhere at

00:46:38

our school. So my brother and I

00:46:40

>> we took my kids to Europe and they

00:46:43

>> cuz we were middle class kids. Got some

00:46:44

money. We're in Italy. But all they

00:46:46

wanted all they talked about was statues

00:46:48

and monuments. I could catch so much air

00:46:49

off that.

00:46:50

>> Oh yeah.

00:46:51

>> Everything was about what they could

00:46:52

skate off of, you know, kind of any

00:46:54

angle.

00:46:55

>> I remember when one of the pallet

00:46:56

tourries went to the Vatican and I tail

00:46:59

dropped off one of those sculptures and

00:47:01

>> I'm sure they love that.

00:47:01

>> People didn't really like that.

00:47:02

>> Yeah.

00:47:03

>> Wait a minute. You you were in the

00:47:04

Vatican skate park in the Vatican City

00:47:07

in the area. Yeah. We we we were just

00:47:10

skate that's that was the thing in those

00:47:12

days. All we cared about was skating. So

00:47:13

it was

00:47:14

>> anything. Yeah.

00:47:14

>> Yeah. The sightseeing was just more

00:47:16

incidental to us getting to skate that

00:47:18

day.

00:47:19

>> Uh stairs. What was that? What would you

00:47:21

get most excited about just in sort of

00:47:23

urban envird

00:47:28

uh reservoir?

00:47:30

>> Even Ker school here I used to see in

00:47:32

skateboard magazine. So when I came

00:47:33

here, I had to go find it. And it was

00:47:35

kind of lame. It was just slight banks

00:47:37

on asphalt, but it was something.

00:47:39

>> Yeah, that was the early days.

00:47:41

>> Yeah. I do some Blemans,

00:47:42

>> you know. A little bit.

00:47:45

>> Bleman.

00:47:45

>> Oh, yeah. Just a little term.

00:47:48

>> Is that right?

00:47:48

>> I do little tail blockers because

00:47:50

there's really no danger.

00:47:51

>> I have a photo.

00:47:52

>> I'm representing the audience at home.

00:47:54

>> In the first Bones Brigade uh

00:47:56

newsletter.

00:47:57

>> Yeah.

00:47:57

>> I had a photo doing a Bleman at Caner

00:48:00

Banks.

00:48:00

>> Oh, for real?

00:48:01

>> Yeah. Jeez. You don't have to go to

00:48:02

Bernto's deli. A good thing is if Tony's

00:48:05

a photographer across me, if you go up

00:48:07

to him and there's a camera low and you

00:48:08

do a tail block, put your hand down and

00:48:10

then that's a good picture angle.

00:48:12

>> Yeah, that's a good one.

00:48:14

>> Uh let's talk about the movie. Uh oh,

00:48:15

you were in Jackass too before we get to

00:48:17

Police Academy.

00:48:18

>> Um all of them.

00:48:18

>> You were in all of them. Yeah.

00:48:20

>> And you do did you do Dane? Have you

00:48:21

seen when uh some kind of blown up suit?

00:48:24

>> Full pipe.

00:48:25

>> Yeah.

00:48:26

>> Did you do it? Did you do a full pipe in

00:48:27

a chicken suit or something?

00:48:29

>> I did. Yes. I was about to say it sounds

00:48:31

like

00:48:32

>> Well, I No, let me Johnny.

00:48:35

>> I did I did that for Jackass.

00:48:37

>> Yeah.

00:48:38

>> With Matt Hoffman.

00:48:39

>> The TV show.

00:48:40

>> The TV show. He and I wore a

00:48:42

>> Oh, he was a BMXer, right?

00:48:43

>> Yeah. And we did we did a loop uh in

00:48:45

Orlando. And then then after the loop,

00:48:47

we jumped into this lake.

00:48:48

>> Oh, that's fun. Yeah.

00:48:49

>> Um and then uh I was on Wild Boys and we

00:48:54

were skating in gorilla costumes

00:48:57

>> and then it's never easy. We were also

00:49:00

skating with an orangutang. So that was

00:49:01

the whole vibe. There was an orangutang

00:49:03

that skated and then Bob Burrus and I

00:49:05

dressed up in gorilla. Bob

00:49:06

>> did the orangutang think you were

00:49:08

gorillas or knew you were.

00:49:09

>> No, but it did not like if we got ahead

00:49:11

of him.

00:49:12

>> So learn very quickly. Very competitive.

00:49:14

>> He's in it to win it and worry you'll

00:49:16

stand behind cuz you don't want him

00:49:18

coming after you

00:49:20

>> in your We end up We end up skating.

00:49:22

>> They chew your face off. I heard.

00:49:23

>> Yeah. Yeah. We end up skating.

00:49:25

>> Side note. uh just to fill the the

00:49:28

content. And then we went and did Bob

00:49:31

had his own loop and we did Bob's loop

00:49:34

and Bob's loop was very slow and

00:49:35

weathered and I didn't take that into

00:49:37

consideration as I went down to it and

00:49:39

then I ended up paying the price.

00:49:41

>> Did you not get around the whole thing?

00:49:43

You're saying

00:49:43

>> I fell I fell from what happened was I

00:49:46

fell just around

00:49:48

uh 10:00 going up.

00:49:51

>> Mhm.

00:49:51

>> And that makes you go all the way to the

00:49:52

top and then fall. Um,

00:49:54

>> so I fell 16 ft. That's when I broke my

00:49:57

pelvis.

00:49:58

>> And were you in the orangutang suit at

00:50:00

that point or some other suit? Was the

00:50:01

orangutang suit

00:50:02

>> that was for Wild Boys.

00:50:04

>> Was it Was it padded?

00:50:05

>> Not worth it.

00:50:06

>> No, they that was extra. We don't got

00:50:07

any budget.

00:50:08

>> And I was wearing the mask so I wasn't

00:50:10

wearing my helmet. So I had a problem.

00:50:13

>> Uh, I got a concussion.

00:50:15

>> My skull. For people at home, you just

00:50:17

go straight down fast like Hot Wheels

00:50:19

and then you do a whole loop and you

00:50:21

lose all your momentum at the top and

00:50:22

you want to bail, I'm sure. But if you

00:50:24

just hang on, you're fully lightweight.

00:50:26

I'm sure you're full

00:50:27

>> um if you have the right amount of

00:50:28

speed, you you just hold steady and it

00:50:31

works

00:50:31

>> and it will stay on.

00:50:32

>> Yeah. But but the problem with Bobs is

00:50:34

that it was so weathered you couldn't

00:50:36

get that around amount of speed. I like

00:50:38

>> so I tried to compensate by using my

00:50:40

legs and if you use your legs then you

00:50:43

end up completely straight leg with

00:50:45

nowhere to go.

00:50:46

>> Have you ever studied geometry or or

00:50:49

physics? Cuz it sounds like you're

00:50:50

really you got to know speed. It's wind.

00:50:53

It's like

00:50:53

>> well the first time I ever did it I did

00:50:55

I did go I actually like did a Hot

00:50:58

Wheels and tried to measure that and do

00:51:01

the ratios of how that would work and it

00:51:03

worked the first time but this time it

00:51:05

didn't work. It seems like there's a lot

00:51:06

of thinking that goes into these tricks

00:51:09

that maybe not every porter has. Usually

00:51:11

it's just intuitive.

00:51:12

>> No, it's just try,

00:51:15

>> right?

00:51:15

>> I don't like they gave you a shitty

00:51:16

ramp.

00:51:16

>> If I get here, I'm going to fall there.

00:51:18

I got to get speed to get this velocity

00:51:19

in this angle. I don't know. Sounds

00:51:21

>> Yeah, it we're just kind of going off a

00:51:23

feeling. We didn't have foam pits or

00:51:26

training grounds,

00:51:27

>> right?

00:51:28

>> So, it's like David like he he tried air

00:51:30

axle stall and

00:51:31

>> came down hard and broke his wrist.

00:51:32

>> Yeah. When we, by the way, we we did

00:51:34

this movie in the old days. I I I was

00:51:36

trying to jump the simple thing of

00:51:37

stairs.

00:51:38

>> Just seeing if your wrist has a bump.

00:51:40

>> No, I actually I actually broke my wrist

00:51:42

again after that

00:51:43

>> skating.

00:51:44

>> Yeah. And my mom goes, "You shouldn't

00:51:46

skate anymore." I go, "Cuz it's too

00:51:47

dangerous." She goes, "No, you're

00:51:48

horrible at it.

00:51:50

>> We have to keep you in school. You keep

00:51:53

>> We're mortgaging the house."

00:51:55

It was It got too hard. It was too,

00:51:58

>> you know, I could do the Desert Pipes.

00:52:00

Uh we did those. I could do uh

00:52:02

>> you know, and just go to Vert and come.

00:52:04

I couldn't really do that one.

00:52:05

>> Those are those are famous.

00:52:06

>> Could you do a um what is it? The

00:52:08

pineapple reverse squat.

00:52:10

>> Do you remember that one?

00:52:11

>> The old dipsy doodle.

00:52:14

>> No, I could do front side grinders. I

00:52:16

can do stuff. But it gets scary, Dana.

00:52:18

And it was just when it gets too hard

00:52:20

what they were doing, it just it

00:52:21

separates.

00:52:21

>> I had a hard time looking at it. My kids

00:52:23

coming down steep hills. Yeah.

00:52:25

>> Didn't want to wear helmets, but put the

00:52:27

helmet on. Put the helmet on. Put And I

00:52:29

because of childhood trauma, I had to

00:52:31

look away. My wife could just watch him,

00:52:33

but I would just I would just look away.

00:52:35

Oh, they made it.

00:52:36

>> You know,

00:52:37

>> we had 23 ER visits between the two

00:52:39

sons.

00:52:40

>> Oh, wow.

00:52:41

>> Yep.

00:52:42

>> Yeah. I uh actually have the cell number

00:52:44

of the head of the ER. My down there by

00:52:47

you in your secret.

00:52:49

>> They have a special lane. Tony, he's

00:52:51

coming in on Tony Drive. Okay. Put

00:52:54

>> We have several children and they all

00:52:56

went through their share of injuries

00:52:57

because they all skate. So, that too.

00:52:59

>> And is Riley a pro? Riley, my oldest son

00:53:02

is pro. Yes.

00:53:02

>> Yeah. He's good. He's cool.

00:53:04

>> Oh, that's cool. So, do you think um

00:53:06

when you see him becoming that good, you

00:53:09

do you see yourself in him

00:53:10

intellectually or or

00:53:12

>> I see I see his determination and his

00:53:16

drive to keep trying to outdo himself.

00:53:19

Yeah.

00:53:19

>> Very much so. He he he's more of a

00:53:21

street skater, so that is not my

00:53:23

wheelhouse,

00:53:24

>> but I do see the same sort of motivation

00:53:27

that he has that I have.

00:53:28

>> It's kind of all successful people. It's

00:53:30

hard that he's that good because he's

00:53:32

got this guy as a dad and and it's hard

00:53:34

to be good anyway.

00:53:35

>> He kind of he kind of shied away from

00:53:37

skating when he started getting good

00:53:38

because of that.

00:53:39

>> That's weird. It's definitely weird.

00:53:41

>> But but came back to it because he had

00:53:43

so many close friends that were just

00:53:45

hardcore skaters

00:53:46

>> and kind of found his own path after

00:53:48

that.

00:53:48

>> Well, once you're making a living at

00:53:50

something that's a passion, it's kind of

00:53:52

a it's a very nice thing. So, he is

00:53:55

professional.

00:53:56

>> He is.

00:53:56

>> And I always wanted to make the same

00:53:58

amount of money I could as a waiter.

00:54:00

like maybe 1,500 a month, right? And

00:54:02

once I got to 600 a month, I was able to

00:54:04

put that apron.

00:54:07

>> I made 600.

00:54:08

>> We made 600 on this podcast.

00:54:10

>> Finish that sentence.

00:54:14

>> I'm telling you, two jokes.

00:54:15

>> No, life's been good. But um to your

00:54:18

point, and it's for everybody who who

00:54:22

excels at things, the passion has to

00:54:23

come first and and just wanting to get

00:54:26

better at it, you know, wanting to get

00:54:28

better. I I do see I I I have seen

00:54:30

skaters come and go because their

00:54:32

motivation is is fame and fortune and if

00:54:35

they get a taste of it then they don't

00:54:37

want to skate anymore or they don't want

00:54:38

to push themselves.

00:54:39

>> And also if that's your moniker it's

00:54:41

like Lauren Michaels one of his uh the

00:54:44

minute you're hot you feel yourself

00:54:46

getting less hot.

00:54:48

>> It's hard to stay.

00:54:48

>> So in other words if you're a fame [ __ ]

00:54:50

you're just like you know yeah I don't I

00:54:53

like to stay home. I don't want to go

00:54:54

anywhere. Dave's a man about town but

00:54:56

we're we we met. We're different. That's

00:54:58

why we we have a chemistry. But yeah,

00:55:01

I'd much rather watch Friday Night

00:55:02

Lights at home.

00:55:03

>> I have to extract Dana out to dinner

00:55:05

once a week every week or something.

00:55:07

>> I I feel you.

00:55:08

>> You know, he has dinner and mashed

00:55:10

potatoes waiting for him when he sits

00:55:12

down

00:55:13

>> and then he'll have a small cocktail.

00:55:16

>> I go, "Are you feeling anything with

00:55:18

that two pounds of little microb

00:55:22

whiskey at night?"

00:55:23

>> Dana, why aren't you asking him about

00:55:25

the movie you don't care about? It's

00:55:26

police academy 4. It's where we

00:55:28

>> Well, this is uh for listeners. No.

00:55:32

Well, this I have some questions after

00:55:33

this, but this is

00:55:35

>> the axis of connection between these

00:55:38

two. The movie Police Academy

00:55:40

>> four. The good

00:55:41

>> David's in it. Tony's in it. Go guys.

00:55:44

>> I I got hired just doing improv. I

00:55:47

wasn't a good actor. The way I locked

00:55:49

into that Tony is I went in. I was very

00:55:51

new. I was 21 and I just started doing

00:55:53

sets of the improv and there's casting

00:55:54

people peppered around. You just don't

00:55:56

know. And then when they called me in

00:55:58

and they said, "We got a script. Can you

00:56:00

come in and audition?" I didn't know

00:56:02

what I was doing. I would have literally

00:56:03

cuz my next audition I just read it off

00:56:04

the page.

00:56:05

>> Yeah.

00:56:06

>> They go, "We want you to read." I go,

00:56:07

"Oh, I can read." And then I just read

00:56:08

the script to them and they were like,

00:56:10

"You don't know what you're doing." And

00:56:11

I go, "Nope."

00:56:13

>> So the only reason I got that is because

00:56:15

they go, "Can you skate?" And I said,

00:56:16

"Yeah." Because I auditioned for

00:56:17

Northshore, a movie, and I said I could

00:56:19

surf and I could not. And

00:56:21

>> did they discover that?

00:56:22

>> Yeah, they discovered it. Well, I didn't

00:56:24

get it. So, I got down to meet and Matt

00:56:25

Adler, a buddy of mine, got it, and he

00:56:27

uh he could surf. So, it's by about a

00:56:29

guy from Arizona and I go, I have all

00:56:30

the components. I can't surf that good.

00:56:32

>> Uh so, I dodge a bullet without one.

00:56:34

>> Yeah, I would have [ __ ] drowned.

00:56:36

>> Surfing.

00:56:36

>> No, no, but I'm just saying that is that

00:56:37

is the one of the most quoted

00:56:41

ridiculous surf movies.

00:56:42

>> Oh, yeah. It was kind of goop. Was kind

00:56:44

of goofpy. Is that what you're saying?

00:56:45

>> Yeah. from Arizona.

00:56:47

>> There's some there's some oneliners in

00:56:48

there that endure that live on because

00:56:51

this is called uh Northshore was

00:56:53

>> Northshore. Yeah. And who was in it?

00:56:55

>> Matt Adler is a buddy of mine that

00:56:56

>> Okay. Uh

00:56:57

>> Lar

00:56:59

Oh, he does.

00:57:00

>> Hamilton is the guy that pulls his

00:57:01

leash. He would have drowned.

00:57:02

>> Oh, Lar Hamilton.

00:57:03

>> Yeah. He's a trip.

00:57:04

>> He's the bad guy.

00:57:04

>> If he knew I was not good. So anyway, so

00:57:07

I audition for Police Academy, but when

00:57:08

I get there, they go,

00:57:10

>> "We're getting a new script in. It's not

00:57:12

here yet." And I go, "Oh." And they go,

00:57:13

>> "Shit, you're here. Do you want to just

00:57:16

>> Oh, perfect.

00:57:16

>> Do you want to just add lib stuff? Well,

00:57:18

you're just a smartass kid. And the

00:57:20

lines are so stiff. Anyway, I would have

00:57:21

bombed. So, I just started making up

00:57:23

stuff.

00:57:23

>> That's good.

00:57:23

>> And it was so lucky because they go,

00:57:25

"Oh, he's not bad." Cuz I was just free

00:57:28

forming, right?

00:57:28

>> That's so much.

00:57:29

>> So, I get hired. I go there. I'm making

00:57:31

so much [ __ ] money.

00:57:33

>> I think I was making $2500 a week.

00:57:36

That's a movie. I was in a movie in

00:57:37

Toronto. And they go, "You're part of a

00:57:39

little skate gang of misfits." And they

00:57:41

go, "Oh, we're going to get And of

00:57:42

course, I knew the Bones Brigade. I knew

00:57:44

everything from Arizona. And then they

00:57:45

go

00:57:46

>> this guy Tony Hawk, I think it was

00:57:48

Guerrero and Cavalero and Mike McIll and

00:57:50

Lance Lance Mountain.

00:57:51

>> Y

00:57:52

>> and so they all came out and I was so

00:57:54

excited because they were rock.

00:57:55

>> Do you remember your first impressions

00:57:56

of David Spade?

00:57:59

>> Um I thought it was super funny.

00:58:01

>> Yeah. So you it was one of those things

00:58:03

where I got where you go, oh you're

00:58:04

you're really funny. You should be a

00:58:06

comedian. That was lucky because you

00:58:08

know Tony, the one problem we had was

00:58:10

Tony was taller than me and he was uh

00:58:12

Were you goofy or regular foot?

00:58:13

>> I'm goofy footed. And so we had Chris

00:58:16

Miller.

00:58:17

>> Well, no. C can I interject?

00:58:18

>> Yeah. Go ahead.

00:58:19

>> So,

00:58:20

>> yes.

00:58:21

>> So, we all read for this that part.

00:58:23

>> Oh, is that right?

00:58:24

>> We all read for the part. Oh, that's

00:58:25

right. Okay.

00:58:26

>> Or or that you and the who's the guy

00:58:28

from Fast Times? Backer. So, we all read

00:58:30

for those parts as the Bones Brigade.

00:58:32

And they're like, "Yeah, you guys are

00:58:33

not actors, but you know, we'll we'll

00:58:35

consider you in the gang or whatever."

00:58:37

And then they

00:58:38

>> I didn't know that

00:58:38

>> they singled out when they hired you

00:58:41

guys, they singed out Lance and me as

00:58:43

the doubles.

00:58:43

>> Yeah.

00:58:44

>> I went through a go gross spurt

00:58:46

>> from the time we tried out to the time

00:58:48

we got there.

00:58:49

>> Really?

00:58:50

>> And so for the first week, they were

00:58:52

like, I think that guy's too tall. And I

00:58:55

remember the director saying like, you

00:58:56

know, he's a pretty good skater, but

00:58:57

he's a bad stunt double. And so then

00:59:00

Stacy kept telling me like stay low.

00:59:02

>> Oh, crouch.

00:59:03

>> Stay low. Oh, Stacy Pearl. Yeah. And I

00:59:06

go I I I don't know. I I was trying. I

00:59:08

was trying. And then And then they just

00:59:09

quietly sent me home.

00:59:11

>> Basically, I got fired.

00:59:12

>> Oh.

00:59:13

>> And then they sent in Chris Miller,

00:59:15

>> who looks like you and is is the same

00:59:19

stance as Well, you're you're

00:59:20

>> I'm goofy, but he was closer. It was a

00:59:23

tough decision because you're goofy and

00:59:25

he's right there. Sorry. What does goofy

00:59:27

foot mean?

00:59:27

>> I'm goofy. Oh, that means

00:59:29

>> he stands he stands with his right foot

00:59:30

forward. So do I.

00:59:31

>> And that's called goofy. Yeah. And left

00:59:33

foot is called

00:59:34

>> regular. Regular. Okay.

00:59:35

>> And so when I got hired, if you remember

00:59:37

that was that was part of the thing. It

00:59:38

was like, "Oh, you're goofy footed, too.

00:59:40

That's what David is." So I went, "So

00:59:42

and and long story short, they sent in

00:59:44

Chris Miller, who looks more like him,

00:59:45

but is regular footed."

00:59:46

>> Okay.

00:59:47

>> So in the in the skate sequence, his

00:59:50

stance keeps changing.

00:59:51

>> It's so crazy. Wow. I'm going to watch

00:59:53

this unprofessional, by the way. But you

00:59:55

had a legit skate park like going

00:59:58

through the mall.

00:59:58

>> I could skate. I could skate and then

01:00:00

when I go one time I go uh Brian Ber

01:00:02

could not skate. He was the

01:00:05

>> He was very much against it.

01:00:08

>> Yeah.

01:00:08

>> To the point where he's making us very

01:00:09

uncomfortable

01:00:10

>> as part of the movie or

01:00:12

>> he just didn't want to even pretend and

01:00:15

they needed establishing shots of him

01:00:17

skating. Okay.

01:00:18

>> Even if they had to pull him on

01:00:19

something to just stand he didn't want

01:00:20

to be.

01:00:20

>> Yeah. But at one point they did try to

01:00:22

get him on a skateboard and he was very

01:00:23

upset about it and he was kind of

01:00:24

complaining to us and we're like we just

01:00:25

work here.

01:00:26

>> Yeah.

01:00:27

>> But we can help you like

01:00:29

>> Stacy Peralta was a great skater and a

01:00:32

great director and one of his bosses cuz

01:00:33

he's from Palalta Bones were great all

01:00:36

>> Yeah. I mean he's the one who put us

01:00:37

together and he was the one who got us

01:00:39

the audition

01:00:40

>> and he did second job.

01:00:41

>> Yeah.

01:00:42

>> He so he directed us in a lot of those

01:00:44

skate scenes if not all of them. And one

01:00:46

time I go Stacy he goes you can skate a

01:00:48

little bit right. I go yeah. I go,

01:00:49

"Listen, on this one, I read a pink bone

01:00:51

shirt, didn't I?" Yeah. And I go, "Uh,

01:00:53

we're just we're just rolling through

01:00:54

the city at night." So, I go and they

01:00:57

go, "You go over these steps." And I go,

01:00:58

"What is it? Five steps?" I go, "I can

01:00:59

do that." And he goes, "Okay."

01:01:00

>> So, I could do five steps

01:01:03

>> seven out of 10 times. So, but when the

01:01:06

pressure So, they're all behind me. I

01:01:08

don't know if you remember this. Anyway,

01:01:10

I'm in front. Woohoo. Making noises. We

01:01:12

loop later. And then we go in and I do

01:01:14

the first steps and I [ __ ] wipe out.

01:01:16

And then everyone has to wipe out on top

01:01:18

of me because they're all like two feet

01:01:19

behind me.

01:01:20

>> Oh yeah. There was no

01:01:21

>> was the camera rolling

01:01:23

like I'm like

01:01:26

>> And they use that.

01:01:27

>> No, I think they just go Tony just do

01:01:30

it.

01:01:30

>> And then you

01:01:31

>> we need to get one right as a stunt

01:01:33

double.

01:01:34

>> Yeah. A stunt double.

01:01:34

>> Five five steps. Was it nothing for you

01:01:37

that

01:01:37

>> uh not nothing but it was

01:01:39

>> Yeah. Doable.

01:01:40

>> It seemed to be a lot for

01:01:42

>> very difficult for them.

01:01:43

>> Yeah. But what we learned in in that

01:01:45

shoot is we learned about stunt bumps.

01:01:48

>> Mhm.

01:01:48

>> And we didn't know anything about that.

01:01:50

So if we pretended like something was

01:01:52

really hard, they give us extra money.

01:01:54

>> Oh,

01:01:54

>> you did jump a police. You're talking

01:01:56

about two stairs. Are you nuts, boy?

01:01:59

I've got a fee for that one. Yeah, I got

01:02:01

you.

01:02:01

>> There was one. It was the um when we

01:02:03

jumped the fountain.

01:02:04

>> Okay.

01:02:04

>> I don't think you were there for that

01:02:05

one, but we we jumped the fountain. They

01:02:07

set up this big ramp and and it just was

01:02:09

so janky the whole thing. And and it was

01:02:11

the landing zone was terrible and we

01:02:13

were just sitting there sweating it and

01:02:14

they're like, "We'll give you each $500

01:02:16

bucks to do this." We're like, "What?"

01:02:18

>> Oh yes.

01:02:19

>> Oh.

01:02:19

>> Oh. The ramp got a lot every time.

01:02:23

>> Back. Let's keep going. And that's when

01:02:25

we learned that we

01:02:26

>> interesting. Yeah. Stunt doubles. I've

01:02:28

been next to guys that were about to

01:02:30

take a car hit on my behalf talking to

01:02:32

them. How you doing? Pretty good.

01:02:34

>> And they never they never say they won't

01:02:36

go again because they get another

01:02:38

>> I guess they get more money.

01:02:39

>> Junk. Yeah.

01:02:39

>> Yeah. So every take they do it, they get

01:02:41

a bump.

01:02:42

>> Right. Right. Yeah.

01:02:43

>> There's only one time I had a stunt man

01:02:45

tap out and I took over.

01:02:47

>> You took over? What was it?

01:02:49

>> Weird. Well, it was going inside this

01:02:51

big vat of goo. Big wooden thing. And

01:02:54

Anthony Hopkins was the dad. He was

01:02:56

there. It's supposed to go under it and

01:02:59

then it's the goo fills everything

01:03:02

>> and I guess a little claustrophobia. The

01:03:04

guy was a great stunt man but just got

01:03:06

him shook up. So I did it.

01:03:09

You did it.

01:03:10

>> Yeah. I got underneath the thing. I go,

01:03:12

"Well, [ __ ] I'm a little guy. I can't

01:03:13

skate. I can't do anything, but I'll

01:03:15

stay on this [ __ ] goo." I come up

01:03:18

from the goo and there's Anthony Hopkins

01:03:19

or Tony as I call him or Hoppy. We were

01:03:22

close. Anyway, he gave me He's playing

01:03:24

my dad. So, anyway, um I have questions.

01:03:28

>> Yeah, give him the questions.

01:03:28

>> I I just We do this sometimes for fun.

01:03:31

Let's see what I got here.

01:03:37

I I do want to say though to end that I

01:03:40

get asked about that all the time.

01:03:42

>> I do too. All the time. Oh, he's got me

01:03:43

for

01:03:43

>> Please count me for is kind of one of

01:03:46

those comedies of the 80s. Everybody

01:03:47

knows

01:03:48

>> from then on we stayed friends. He would

01:03:49

always give me a board. He would always

01:03:51

if I asked for some uh we went and

01:03:53

skated Miguel's ramp once, which I was

01:03:55

not good at.

01:03:56

>> And uh I'm so brittle that I can't

01:03:58

believe you still will will risk falling

01:04:00

because every time I fall, it really

01:04:01

rocks me. Um, I I think I I got

01:04:04

accustomed to the slight pains of

01:04:07

skating, but now as I grow older, things

01:04:09

have linger more.

01:04:11

>> But I do find that if I stay active,

01:04:13

it's easier

01:04:14

>> because when I did, but Dana, when I did

01:04:16

that thing with Tiger, I was comparing

01:04:17

them because they're both like the

01:04:18

number one in their field.

01:04:20

>> Tiger is so driven. So, we played golf

01:04:22

that night and he was

01:04:24

>> visibly hurt from his back operations.

01:04:26

He wasn't He's super cool. He's great.

01:04:28

He's reading putts. He was having fun,

01:04:30

but I could tell he's in pain. I even

01:04:32

asked him, "Would you do you think he'll

01:04:33

ever play golf again?" Because he had

01:04:34

just got an operation. And I thought,

01:04:35

"Maybe this is it." Why? I asked him, "I

01:04:37

don't know." That that night, next

01:04:39

morning, he gets in the car wreck,

01:04:40

right? So, he crushes his feet,

01:04:42

everything. He may never play again. And

01:04:45

he starts to swing and and within a

01:04:47

year,

01:04:48

>> he he was better than me within minutes.

01:04:50

I go, there was a while there where I

01:04:52

was better than him because he couldn't

01:04:53

pick up a comb. And then he goes, "I can

01:04:55

kind of I'm better than you." And I'm

01:04:56

like, "Well, how is it that I thought it

01:04:59

would take years?"

01:05:00

>> Yeah. and and he's so good at it that

01:05:02

once he can just stand up on two feet,

01:05:04

he's like

01:05:04

>> he's playing on one leg now and he was

01:05:06

also made the cut and was doing bad

01:05:10

stuff like a week ago.

01:05:11

>> It's infuriating. Go ahead.

01:05:12

>> You know,

01:05:13

>> um have you ever been like upside down

01:05:15

on your skateboard and had the thought

01:05:17

in your head like this can't be good

01:05:21

or this isn't going to end well.

01:05:23

>> The the first time I tried 900 Yes.

01:05:25

>> in your brain it went this isn't going

01:05:26

to end well. I was like I don't know

01:05:28

where I am. When is when am I going to

01:05:29

hit the wall? Oh, there it is.

01:05:32

>> Did you ever been upside down your

01:05:34

skateboard and thought, "Why did I ever

01:05:36

really did I ever really like this?

01:05:45

>> I think the the when I first came back

01:05:47

to the ramp after breaking my leg, there

01:05:49

was a the moment of that."

01:05:51

>> You ever been upside down

01:05:54

>> when the thought popped in your head?

01:05:55

David Spay was really funny and please

01:05:57

scan me for it. [ __ ] he said almost

01:05:59

every day. Have you ever been upside

01:06:00

down in your skateboard and gone, "My IQ

01:06:03

is 144. What the [ __ ] am I doing ramming

01:06:06

my thighs?"

01:06:07

>> I had a BMX guy who was who was pro for

01:06:10

a while, Chris Duncan say that to me

01:06:12

that he was upside down once and he

01:06:14

said, "This can't end well." Like he

01:06:16

just knew he was out of sorts.

01:06:18

>> Yeah. And and also you you just

01:06:20

anticipate that hit where you're like,

01:06:22

I'm not I know that I can't prepare for

01:06:24

it this time, so when is it coming? And

01:06:26

please make it soon.

01:06:28

>> Do have you ever gotten kind of at an

01:06:30

endorphin high like distance runners do

01:06:33

from skateboarding? Like a real buzz.

01:06:35

>> Oh yeah. All the time.

01:06:36

>> When you land something great, you're

01:06:37

just like

01:06:38

>> anything that I land new to me.

01:06:41

>> Okay.

01:06:42

>> New jokes for us. No joke. It's like if

01:06:43

you do a new joke at this stage of the

01:06:45

game,

01:06:46

>> no joke. New joke.

01:06:50

Have you ever been on your skateboard

01:06:52

going fast, had somebody else push a

01:06:54

skateboard 5t away next to you and tried

01:06:56

to jump on that skateboard?

01:06:58

>> Yeah. Uh, yeah. That's not as amazing as

01:07:00

you would think.

01:07:01

>> Oh, wow. I thought you were going to go,

01:07:02

"No one could do that."

01:07:04

>> Jeez,

01:07:04

>> Dana, I saw a guy on Instagram the other

01:07:06

day. He hits like a bump. There's a

01:07:08

skateboard on the other side. He does a

01:07:09

flip in the air.

01:07:09

>> I've seen that.

01:07:10

>> That's pretty

01:07:11

>> Yeah, that's pretty wild.

01:07:12

>> There's so many ways I can go wrong.

01:07:13

Okay, go.

01:07:14

>> Has anyone ever used the pun to you?

01:07:16

You're just skating by. Has anyone ever

01:07:18

said that to you? You're skating through

01:07:19

life.

01:07:20

>> Hey, Tony. Skating. Skating by. Huh?

01:07:23

>> Okay. I just curious.

01:07:24

>> Skating by.

01:07:25

>> What makes a prodigy?

01:07:27

>> Uh,

01:07:28

>> I guess it's determination.

01:07:30

>> I think I think a lot of determination.

01:07:32

Discipline.

01:07:34

>> Um, and it's just I you know it when you

01:07:38

see it.

01:07:39

>> Mosart, right? John Benet. Yeah. All the

01:07:42

big ones.

01:07:42

>> Um, the biggest mistake beginning

01:07:46

skateboarders make, Tony Hawk.

01:07:49

The biggest mistake beginner

01:07:50

skateboarders make um

01:07:53

>> getting ahead of themselves skill-wise

01:07:55

where they think that because they can

01:07:57

ride a skateboard that suddenly they can

01:07:58

do some big stunt, a big set of stairs,

01:08:01

a big handrail

01:08:03

>> and they do not have all the required

01:08:06

elements to that and it goes horribly.

01:08:10

>> It looks easy on Instagram. D

01:08:12

>> when you see someone make a trick, you

01:08:14

don't realize they fell 30 times.

01:08:16

>> Fill in the blank. Tony Hawk is

01:08:19

You don't have to answer the

01:08:22

uh a skateboarder, uh a husband, a

01:08:25

father,

01:08:26

and a philanthropist.

01:08:28

>> Okay. David Spade is

01:08:31

>> He could say all those same ones. Funny

01:08:34

skateboard. Funny skateboard.

01:08:35

>> Funny skateboard. Not so good at

01:08:37

skateboard, but incredibly funny.

01:08:39

>> No. No.

01:08:41

>> Um anything.

01:08:43

>> Let's see. Do you think evil conval

01:08:46

could have made some noise in the

01:08:47

skateboarding world?

01:08:48

>> Noise.

01:08:49

>> Uh,

01:08:51

I heard inspiration to me, so by proxy.

01:08:54

Yes.

01:08:55

>> So you'd watch him on TV going over cars

01:08:57

with his car?

01:08:58

>> I had the I had the wind up

01:09:01

>> SSP. Yeah.

01:09:04

>> Which one? Oh, okay. I know you've

01:09:07

landed the 900. And I'm just throwing

01:09:09

this out. It's going on record. This is

01:09:10

going out all over the world. 1,200.

01:09:14

>> Uh Mishi Brusco, uh a current pro

01:09:17

skater, has done a 1260.

01:09:20

>> Was he young?

01:09:21

>> Is he really young?

01:09:22

>> Uh Tom Sh, you're thinking of Tom Shaw.

01:09:24

He did Tom Shaw did the first 1080. He

01:09:25

was very young.

01:09:26

>> Oh yeah. Yeah.

01:09:27

>> Uh this is on a bigger ramp, so more air

01:09:29

time. People somehow think that's

01:09:31

easier. I don't think that's easier.

01:09:33

>> Asterisk,

01:09:34

>> but uh No, it's hard.

01:09:36

>> Brisco did a 1260, so he did three and a

01:09:38

half.

01:09:39

>> God dang. Uh, I can't put that in my

01:09:41

head. I hardly It's amazing. The humans

01:09:44

just want to keep

01:09:45

>> It's amaz If you look that up, find the

01:09:48

clip. It's worth watching

01:09:49

>> because in track and field in sprints,

01:09:51

it's like a hundth of a second.

01:09:52

>> WORLD RECORD BY 0.001.

01:09:55

IT'S NO, THIS is a full spin.

01:09:58

>> That That is extraordinary. What uh

01:10:00

these these were just random ones like

01:10:02

fear? Where does fear come into it and

01:10:04

how do you deal with it right before you

01:10:06

go on off? want to be in an attack mode

01:10:09

or

01:10:10

>> uh I treat fear in more that I feel

01:10:14

confident that I have the skills to do

01:10:16

this

01:10:16

>> the preparation

01:10:17

>> hope this works

01:10:19

>> hope I can land it

01:10:20

>> yeah like I don't know what's going to

01:10:22

happen it's more like I have all the

01:10:23

pieces to this let's put them together

01:10:25

and and I approach it with more

01:10:27

confidence than

01:10:28

>> than fear yeah

01:10:30

>> have you ever done a rope swing into a

01:10:32

lake and you were the kid who would do

01:10:34

like all kinds of triple somersaults I

01:10:36

would No, but when I was little, I would

01:10:38

go off the high dive.

01:10:39

>> Oh.

01:10:40

>> Did you have vertigo at all? Did you

01:10:41

look down and go?

01:10:43

>> Um,

01:10:44

yeah, but I I think I just knowing that

01:10:46

other people have done it gave me some

01:10:48

>> Seems like you would have been a good

01:10:49

high school diver probably with this

01:10:51

sort of

01:10:51

>> I don't think I'd be that accurate.

01:10:54

>> You know what I mean? Like I'm down to

01:10:55

do flips, but I don't want to pencil in

01:10:58

and

01:10:58

>> you hit the water, but maybe I'm down,

01:11:01

you know, I'm going to make it look like

01:11:02

a hyena.

01:11:04

Uh, I just asked people this anyway. Did

01:11:06

you as a kid movie or television show

01:11:09

blow your mind and make make you happy?

01:11:12

>> Um,

01:11:14

shoot.

01:11:15

>> For Ben Stiller, it was the Poseidon

01:11:17

Adventure. I always get that example.

01:11:19

>> For me, it was Jason the Organ.

01:11:22

>> Oh, for a for a TV show? Um,

01:11:24

>> or those were movies.

01:11:25

>> Mine is probably Animal House.

01:11:26

>> TV show would have been Little House in

01:11:28

the Prairie. That's Dave's favorite.

01:11:29

>> I love that one. I did like it. I like I

01:11:31

had a thing for

01:11:32

>> a huge Michael Landon fan. Has this

01:11:34

>> Once Mary got blind, I realized she

01:11:35

couldn't realize I'm a six. So,

01:11:37

>> yeah,

01:11:38

>> that's a good question. I

01:11:39

>> That's all right. You can pass. You can

01:11:41

just

01:11:41

>> I think I I really I enjoyed Greatest

01:11:44

American Hero

01:11:46

>> the movie was kind of Okay, so more

01:11:49

>> like a regular dude that had superhero

01:11:52

qualities and

01:11:53

>> that was funny and he would run into the

01:11:54

walls and stuff like that. Okay, that

01:11:56

makes sense.

01:11:56

>> My favorite movie in the back in the day

01:11:58

was Fast Times. Fast times a bridge.

01:12:00

>> Yeah, because it summed up high school.

01:12:02

>> Well, that says it all. That's perfect.

01:12:03

You were right at the age to hit that.

01:12:05

Yeah.

01:12:05

>> And Sean Penn. That was great.

01:12:08

>> Yeah.

01:12:09

>> Tasty waves. Yeah. That that was that

01:12:11

was a big comedy.

01:12:12

>> I got to actually clarify a a line from

01:12:15

Fast Times with Sean Pence. That was a

01:12:17

big deal.

01:12:17

>> You did? Well,

01:12:18

>> it's coming of age.

01:12:19

>> What was it?

01:12:20

>> Uh people think he says, "All I need are

01:12:24

>> tasty

01:12:25

>> is a cool buzz and tasty waves." He

01:12:27

said, "Cool buds." Yes. Yeah. And that's

01:12:29

how I heard it.

01:12:31

>> I got to clarify with him and that that

01:12:32

>> he thought he said Buzz.

01:12:34

>> No, he said Buds. People think people

01:12:36

think he says Buzz. They don't know what

01:12:37

Buds mean. I remember that line and it

01:12:39

was buds.

01:12:40

>> Yeah.

01:12:41

>> Well, Tony Tony, thank you for talking

01:12:43

about SNL for an hour with us.

01:12:45

>> Well, no, that's part B. We'll talk

01:12:48

Tony's audition for SNL. He skates on to

01:12:51

88. It's launch like what do you have?

01:12:54

It's called skateboarder. Dude, I I got

01:12:56

to say it. It was a dream come true

01:12:59

>> and it only happened recently and I was

01:13:02

so thankful.

01:13:03

>> And you came out and did a cameo. What

01:13:06

did you do?

01:13:06

>> So I was I was here in LA doing p doing

01:13:10

our podcast Hawk versus Wolf.

01:13:11

>> Hawk versus Hawk versus Wolf Wolf.

01:13:14

Wherever you can find podcast. And it's

01:13:16

also on YouTube.

01:13:16

>> Yeah.

01:13:17

>> Yes.

01:13:17

>> Hawk versus Wolf. And so I was I was

01:13:19

staying here doing this for a couple

01:13:21

days in the studio in Santa Monica.

01:13:23

>> Driving back to my hotel. It's like 6

01:13:25

p.m. and I get a call and they said,

01:13:27

"Hey, can you make it to New York by

01:13:30

tomorrow night?" Uh they wrote you into

01:13:32

a skit on SNL. It's Thursday. And I'm

01:13:35

[ __ ] yeah.

01:13:36

>> Yes, I can do that. That's for sure.

01:13:39

>> Went stayed there. Went went did my

01:13:42

podcast with with uh Seth Rogan and went

01:13:44

straight to LAX.

01:13:46

>> I live in San Diego. I I'm not even

01:13:48

prepared to travel at all.

01:13:49

>> Right. You just

01:13:50

>> and went there, bought a jacket upon

01:13:53

landing and uh they had written me into

01:13:56

a script. Literally all I was going to

01:13:58

do was say my name.

01:14:00

>> Not scared at all.

01:14:02

>> You can handle that.

01:14:03

>> Sure. Whatever it takes. It was it was a

01:14:05

skit about the you know that whole thing

01:14:07

went viral with THE MISS UNIVERSE

01:14:08

FRANCE.

01:14:09

>> YEAH.

01:14:10

>> OH, you were in that? Yeah. That's

01:14:11

right. I was going to be one of the

01:14:13

judges of that pageant with the Property

01:14:15

Brothers. And when it came to me to ask

01:14:18

who won, I just say my name. And

01:14:21

honestly, when I saw the script, I

01:14:23

thought, "This is this is it. I'm flying

01:14:25

out here.

01:14:25

>> This is a long way to

01:14:26

>> But also like this is my big break to

01:14:28

SNL."

01:14:29

>> Yeah.

01:14:30

>> Is that I get to And then they loved it

01:14:32

in the rehearsal so much they added a

01:14:34

line for me.

01:14:35

>> Yeah.

01:14:36

>> Um we're writing a line for you, Tony.

01:14:38

It'll be on the cards. Did you say

01:14:41

Lauren? So, do I have the it quality?

01:14:43

Should I stay and be a cast?

01:14:45

>> I did get to at the afterparty. I got to

01:14:48

actually sit with him for a few minutes.

01:14:50

>> He's quite a quite a character.

01:14:53

>> He just says really interesting stuff.

01:14:55

>> Tonyy's like, I know who you are.

01:14:57

>> Ah, yeah.

01:14:58

>> He would be that he would be very very

01:15:01

Yeah, I I know success when I see it.

01:15:04

>> David Dana didn't know how to monetize,

01:15:07

but Tony did.

01:15:11

Well, thank you, Tony. Tony Tony, um,

01:15:14

uh, just to sum up, yeah, your podcast

01:15:16

is great.

01:15:17

>> Thank you.

01:15:18

>> And, um, all your business endeavors.

01:15:20

And I think this will be an inspiring

01:15:22

episode. And it doesn't matter what your

01:15:24

passion is, you just have to apply

01:15:26

yourself and focus. I always say to

01:15:28

people, look at your feet. Don't look at

01:15:31

the fame, the money. Just look at your

01:15:32

feet. Literally with skaters. Yeah.

01:15:34

>> But just like, am I better today than I

01:15:37

was yesterday? and what can I do to get

01:15:39

better no matter what you're trying to

01:15:41

do. That's what I take away. David, your

01:15:43

takeaway is

01:15:43

>> same thing.

01:15:45

>> Yeah. What he said.

01:15:47

>> All right, Tony. Talking to Tony. It's

01:15:48

good. He's a philanthropist. Does skatep

01:15:50

park uh builds them and

01:15:52

>> foundation giving money called the

01:15:54

skatepark project. Oh, that's right.

01:15:57

>> Safe skatep parks that

01:15:59

>> we help uh parks in underserved areas.

01:16:02

>> Yes. Yes. That's great.

01:16:03

>> Going for 20 years now.

01:16:05

>> Wow. So you're

01:16:06

>> they give skate parks that sick you make

01:16:08

them better. I don't understand how it

01:16:09

works.

01:16:10

>> All right.

01:16:12

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