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this program is about unsolved mysteries
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whenever possible the actual family
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members and police officials have
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participated in recreating the events
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what you are about to see is not a news
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broadcast tonight a special edition of
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unsolved mysteries on the Alamo in San
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Antonio Texas in 1836 189 brave men made
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a gallop last stand at the Alamo holding
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off 6,000 Mexican soldiers for nearly
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two weeks in the end the defenders would
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all die but according to legend they
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left behind an unclaimed legacy possibly
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a fortune and gold and silver buried at
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the bottom of an old well incredibly
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some believed it was more than just a
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legend for almost a month a team of
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archeologists and researchers of an
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excavating here in an attempt to uncover
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the secrets of the Alamo what if
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anything will they find a legendary
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hidden treasure or perhaps priceless
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artifacts from history lost for nearly
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160 years in the next stop we'll bring
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you this fascinating story as well as
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these intriguing mysteries in Sulphur
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Louisiana intruders broke into a
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comfortable suburban home and murdered a
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prominent young couple Pam and Eric
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calendar four years later Pam's father
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Huey Littleton is still searching for
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the truth behind the brutal deaths the
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investigation has taken Hylian to the
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depths of a bizarre ritualistic
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subculture and led him to believe that
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his daughter and son-in-law were killed
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by members of a satanic cult when Denise
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Williams was 17 she fell in love with an
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older man named Randall Utterback she
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says she also fell victim to a
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terrifying spiral of abuse which
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allegedly culminated in a vicious attack
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now the authorities need your help to
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bring Randall Utterback to justice join
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me for the special edition the secrets
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of the Alamo and more on unsolved
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mysteries
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remember the Alamo the famous battle cry
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that echoes across the fields at time
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blasting tribute to freedom liberty and
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independence but some believe a full
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story of the Alamo has yet to be told
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legend has it that in the shadow of the
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old mission an intriguing secret remains
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buried a secret which dates back to 1836
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the year of the epic battle that January
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a group of rugged frontiersman made
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their way across the vast Prairie of
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southern Texas by some accounts they
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were loaded down with a fortune in
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silver and gold legendary San Saba
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treasure
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said to be worth millions of dollars the
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men were bound for the Alamo
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the treasure was intended to finance the
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Texas Revolution for independence from
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Mexico the leader of the expedition was
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a man named Jim Bowie a colonel in the
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Texas cavalry and renowned throughout
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the West for the hunting knife which
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would later bear his name
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two months later Bowie and 188 other men
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including Davy Crockett would make a
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courageous stand against 6,000
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well-trained Mexican soldiers at the
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Alamo but one of the defenders would
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live to tell the tale
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the legend of the treasure would endure
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today all that remains of the Alamo is
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the old hallowed Chapel here on the
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grounds of the plaza history comes alive
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you can almost hear the cannon shot and
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the charge of cavalry you can also feel
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the excitement of discovery just a few
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feet from where I'm standing
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Legend and Science and cross paths with
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an unsolved mystery for the past three
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weeks a team of archeologists and
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researchers has been excavating the
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street just in front of the animal what
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will they find
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perhaps nothing perhaps the legendary
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San Saba treasure or perhaps priceless
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artifacts from the battle untouched for
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nearly 160 years the dig is a
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culmination of a dream for Frank Bush
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Bakker a professional fortune hunter and
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historical researcher Frank's quest
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began in 1986 on a trip to Colima Mexico
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he was introduced to Maria Gomez
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respected museum curator who also had a
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reputation as a seer and prophetess or
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at the ravenel a loom did you know that
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there is a treasure buried at the Alamo
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I've never heard of any treasure
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surrounding the Battle of the Alamo it
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is just a valiant battle that was lost
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then she went on to describe it as gold
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coins artifacts silver artifacts
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some religious artifacts is what she
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described the mass Donna took part of
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the treasure that was very frank was
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told as some of the treasure had been
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removed by Mexican soldiers but the bulk
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of the fortune still remained hidden at
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the element to draw you a map
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this is the crude map sketched out by
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Maria Gomez she predicted that the
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treasure would be found here at the
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bottom of an old well even though Maria
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said she had never been to the Alamo
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she had approximated the spot where a
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well was dug just prior to the siege at
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the time the Alamo grounds covered
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nearly three acres the chapel was
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located in the rear of the fortification
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the well was in the plaza which was
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enclosed by stone walls up to 12 feet
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high it was within those walls that the
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Texans held out for a full 13 days
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the defenders repulsed one advance and
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for another but in the end 189 men could
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not stave off six thousand Mexican
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soldier Frank Bush Parker believes that
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in a final act of desperation Jim Bowie
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ordered that the treasure be hidden at
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the bottom of the well thus saving that
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financed the war effort
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and the only way they preserve it is to
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all stick together and fight the battle
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out to whatever outcome at hand this
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really is the first Bank of Texas the
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first catch of precious metals that
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would have bought them the arms and our
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uniforms they need it the reason why
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it's remained there is because everybody
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died
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the Alamo is now preserved as an
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historic landmark in the heart of
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downtown San Antonio Texas Frank
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believes that the treasure will be found
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beneath the road that fronts the chapel
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to many native Texans however Bush
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Barker's theory is little more than
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revisionist history but the people of Al
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no I don't think they were guarding a
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treasure when your life is on the line
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like it was in the battle with general
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santiana
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I don't think you're thinking about
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silver or gold bullion I think you're
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thinking about your life and I don't
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think you would be polluting your water
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well because you don't know how long
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your siege is going to be
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despite the controversy Frank Bush
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Bakker was determined to prove his point
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in 1992 he obtained permission to survey
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the area with ground-penetrating radar
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the tests yielded intriguing results so
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we've got a nice little area there about
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three to four meters down looks to be
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maybe a carpet over her sister that's
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all strictly conjecture but this is a
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very good three separate disturbances or
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anomalies were found beneath the surface
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the largest which Frank believes as a
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site of the well is in the precise
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location where Maria Gomez predicted the
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treasure would be found further tests
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revealed an object 18 to 24 inches in
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diameter that a depth of approximately
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13 feet the object is metallic but it is
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not a natural mineral deposit it was a
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chilly run down my back it kind of
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brought all my research to fruition at
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that point because I knew that with the
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map her story and then plugging it into
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Texas history that I was on a hot trail
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and all any dissension that I had within
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my own mind about whether I should
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follow this any further was gone the
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anomalies could be caused by many things
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I think it could be debris equipment
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left by the Texans either army
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I think it could be something several
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years later it was to post it there you
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know as time marches on dust and dirt
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and silt and debris accumulate and cover
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very gradually so that we do not know
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and I think that probably that could be
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part of what they're picking up out
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there but to the ground radar detect is
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it possible that the legendary sense of
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a treasure does exist or could the
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anomaly be some long-lost artifact from
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the battle
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whatever the case Frank Bush Bakker was
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determined to find out
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Frank was spent three and a half years
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acquiring the necessary permits and
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financial backing to excavate the site
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in 1994 the archaeology department at
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st. Mary's University in San Antonio
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agreed to oversee the digging the
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project director is professor thomas
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guru zhang he believes that no matter
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what lies at the bottom of the well it
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will have historical significance that
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you cannot put a price on there's a
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whole series of possibilities what we
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may find whether it's treasure as in
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gold and silver and that sort of thing
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or whether it is materials that were
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thrown into the well during the battle
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materials that were thrown into the well
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during the cleanup after the battle
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doesn't make any difference to us while
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we're looking at a historical
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perspective whatever it is it's a time
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capsule it's the only opportunity we
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have that we know of to find something
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related to those few short months and
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the few short days of the battle itself
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on February 1st 1995 the moment had
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finally arrived the dig was set to begin
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Frank Bush bunker and two of his
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colleagues Jim Rowe and Tim McClure
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plotted last-minute changes to the
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schedule the plans call for excavating a
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15 by 15 foot area directly above the
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well a work crew must first remove three
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feet of flagstone and Road bed to reach
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the 1836 ground level atop of the filled
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in well proceeding carefully with hand
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tools the workers will then remove
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decades of dirt and debris from the nine
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foot deep shaft one thing for certain is
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that there's something down there
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whether this gold or silver ore or old
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rifles down there that's not what's
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really important what's really important
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is that we're going to find out about
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what happened I'm interested in what he
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finds and if it's a treasure that'll be
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very exciting if it's a cannonball a
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part of a cannon you know metal like
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that that would be interesting to know
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about it'd be another part of history
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what we do know about that ground is it
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hasn't been disturbed since the battle
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and we have a time capsule down there no
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matter what it is and it is a treasure
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no matter what it is
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the entire team and hundreds of
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onlookers it was a day of boundless joy
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and nervous anticipation as layer after
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layer of history was peeled away the
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archaeologists traveled back through
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time to the final days of the element
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when we return perhaps you could help
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track down this man accused of
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kidnapping his former girlfriend January
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1994 an isolated country road just
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outside a small Missouri town the
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unlikely name of Mexico
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the young woman under attack is Denise
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Williams she is 19 the man with a gun is
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a Rex boyfriend
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31 year old Randall Utterback they had
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met a year and a half earlier at a party
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after Denise's senior prom - the naive
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17 year old schoolgirl Randall seemed
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exotic and dashing just dangerous enough
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to be exciting I met Randall a week
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before graduation I just thought he was
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the cutest thing and he had been known
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around town for his motorcycles and he
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owned a mountain lion at the time and
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everyone had talked to highly of him he
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was really outgoing really spontaneous
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for the moment let's go do this he would
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take me out to nice places and concerts
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and then after two weeks of Randall and
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I being together it all changed it was
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gradual he started out saying don't wear
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makeup don't wear hairspray don't worry
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fume and then it grew - don't hang out
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with this person don't be friends with
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her because she's a bad influence we
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have to choose them or me
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Denise Williams had gotten in way over
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her head
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according to Denise Randall Utterback
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older or more worldly quickly
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established an abusive pattern
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denigrating her rejecting her and then
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putting on a great show of forgiveness
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the Randall is seen that love equal
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possession was he had Denise he was not
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about to let go when Denise went away to
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college three months after meeting
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rambling she hoped the distance would
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improve the relationship but Randall
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only became more obsessive yeah I called
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you this morning where were you had to
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go to class I know what you said you'd
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wait for my phone call Randall was very
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controlling and manipulative I'd have to
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call Randall if I was going down to the
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cafeteria just in case
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Randall called and I wasn't there to
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accept his phone call he'd think I'd be
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out with some other people or having
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friends doing something that I wasn't
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supposed to do Denise's family was
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shocked when Randall talked her into
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leaving school she enrolled at a
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Community College closer to home and
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closer to round
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he had me convinced he was the only one
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there for me because he had got me so
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isolated from my family and my friends
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to where he would tell me I am the only
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one here for you
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you know you need me in your life and I
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got to the point where I where I started
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to believe that no I didn't it looks fun
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to me sometimes trying to help you right
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you want my help or not
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several months past the abusive pattern
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continued finally Denise reached her
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breaking point
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are you calling me a liar Denise I'm not
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calling you I'm just telling you this
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you're an idiot you know that you're
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stupid
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yeah well I don't really care I would be
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called names
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I'd be tore down I wasn't allowed to
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have an opinion with Randall it's good
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Denise that's it I've had it we're
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finished
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I was relieved I wanted to get away from
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them I had just had enough I told them I
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told Randall we were through Randall was
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stunned when Denis did not come crawling
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back
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he couldn't abide her newfound and okay
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Randall Utterback would not go peaceably
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Denise says he began to follow her the
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stalker waiting until she was alone and
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vulnerable doing
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Durandal hit the back of my car when it
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ran me off the road he come over to my
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car and then he dragged me over to his
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dad's truck to go with him and he told
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me that if I didn't take him back
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something bad would happen to someone I
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love he wanted me to marry him
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got told Randall I went marry him
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Randall Utterback was arrested for
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felonious restraint and aggravated
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stalking sheriff said I could call my
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Lord Lindo I'm here he was in jail for a
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week before posting bond a restraining
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order was issued barring him from seeing
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or talking to Denise for a month
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Randall obeys the order Denise finally
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began to remember what a normal life was
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like but she had let down her guard too
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soon
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I was driving home from school and I saw
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this black car behind me I didn't think
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it was him I thought it was just some
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school kids driving home from school
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next thing I know that car pulls up
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beside me it was Randall again he is
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motioning me to pull over and I would
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and I sped up in his I sped up he sped
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after went behind me again
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Denise Denise get out of the car Denise
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tried to spray Randall with mace in the
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struggle Randall allegedly bit her hand
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and dropped his gun
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just needed to tell you Denise did it I
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love you and I want you back in my life
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okay that's all I'm asking for I just
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wanted to start over I just want another
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chance and you just just not giving me
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another chance dad I need to start over
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I need another chance now give it to me
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and then he said that if I wouldn't take
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him back there was no need for it and
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living and he asked me to kill him he
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asked me to stab him through the heart
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of course Denise refused she pleaded
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with Randall to stop the car he's just
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just telling me shut up Denise god I
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hate it when you do that all right look
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you just understand this if you don't
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say exactly what I told you to say I'm
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gonna take you out of this state you'll
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never see your family again you
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understand that
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I love you
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Denise's father and a sheriff's deputy
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along with several other people had
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already gathered around Denise's car
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even before he let her speak to her
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father
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the deputy began to question Denise he
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immediately drove Denise to the
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emergency room to have her checked out
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he'll be over there could be at the
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hospital when you get back
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[Music]
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[Music]
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Randel Utterback was charged with
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stalking felonious restraint and with
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three counts of armed criminal action he
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was imprisoned without bond for six
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months then six months later he was
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taken to the hospital and in transit
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managed to escape today he remains at
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large as of today I'm still living in
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fear I don't know when he'll come back
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but I have a feeling he will I don't
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live with my parents anymore because I
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have a feeling that would be the first
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place Randall checked for me I don't go
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anywhere by myself I'm just scared he's
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gonna come back and I won't be able to
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convince him a third time to let me go
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Randall Utterback spares have issued
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statements asserting that their son did
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not commit the acts of which he is
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accused they say that Denise and the
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local authorities are out to assassinate
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Randall's character however the
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Sheriff's Department in two different
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Missouri counties stand firm in their
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position that Utterback is a dangerous
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criminal
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[Music]
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[Music]
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next a father's desperate quest to find
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his daughter's killer
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[Music]
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in junior high and high school
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Pam Littleton of Sulphur Louisiana was
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voted most popular friendliest and the
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prettiest girl she was a cheerleader she
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was the homecoming queen
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after college Pam married Eric Ellender
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a bright up-and-coming businessman the
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newlyweds bought a house near Pam's
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parents and Eric went to work for Pam's
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father a year later
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Pam gave birth to a beautiful baby girl
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the family's circle was now complete
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nearly every day Pam walked over to her
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parents house for a visit she didn't
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want her mother and father to miss a
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moment but their granddaughters
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childhood Pamela I guess would be she
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was a type of daughter that they have a
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father would dream of having you know
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she had dreamed of being a housewife and
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a mother that was her ambition in life
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and she was totally happy at 8:45 p.m.
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on February 11th 1991 Pam's husband Eric
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called her to say he was home from work
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Pam left her Paris house 30 minutes
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later by the next afternoon no one in
00:27:03
the family had heard from Pam or Eric
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which was highly unusual
00:27:07
then Huy Littleton got a phone call from
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his mother-in-law she says Huy
00:27:13
I just left Pam and Eric's and
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something's wrong down there they're in
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their bed I have the baby and I'm back
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at your house call the sheriff I told
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her I said I will call the sheriff and I
00:27:29
will call an ambulance
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what appears to be the problem she said
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call the sheriff
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the sheriff's unit met us at the gate
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corners of the yard and asked that we
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not go near the house and we learned
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that Pam and Eric were dead that both of
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them had been brutally shot with a
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shotgun and had a the fatal wounds were
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to their head there was only one
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blessing amidst the horror
00:28:07
although traumatized Pam and Eric's
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daughter was physically unharmed still
00:28:12
the little teens were left numb with
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grief
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absolutely total complete shock unbelief
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I could not believe it I mean how can
00:28:24
you possible Eve your daughter's dead
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totally immobilize me I couldn't cry all
00:28:38
I could do was say why and who the day
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after the murders 18 year old Kris
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prudent a resident of sulfur was
00:28:50
arrested in Baton Rouge along with three
00:28:52
friends they were in possession of Airi
00:28:55
calendars toyota 4runner Chris where was
00:28:59
the shotgun in a case Chris Pruden
00:29:03
became the focus of the investigation
00:29:06
which gun did you use not a Mac shotgun
00:29:10
and did you load it no it was loaded so
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what did you do after you got the gun
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and saw that it was loaded I went and
00:29:21
shot him who did you shoot first I shot
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the guy he confessed under oath that he
00:29:29
had killed Pam and Eric that he had no
00:29:35
remorse for doing so in fact was glad
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they did so
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17 days after the murders Prudhomme was
00:29:46
discovered hanging by the neck in the
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jail shower room he never regained
00:29:50
consciousness and died in the hospital
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this suicide note was found in his cell
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in the note
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put'em took some credit for the murders
00:30:01
saying quote I enjoyed very much in the
00:30:04
taking of those two individuals lives as
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far as the Sheriff's Department was
00:30:12
concerned the case was closed they had
00:30:15
made an arrest the suspect had confessed
00:30:17
and hung himself but a Huey Littleton's
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experience tie loose ends were
00:30:22
everywhere he is a licensed private
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detective and owns his own company once
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he began to investigate he came to
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believe that Chris put'em had belonged
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to a satanic cult called the skaters and
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I Crenn him for Satan's kids against the
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establishment as long as we all
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understand he's not gonna talk he knows
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better the girlfriend of one of the
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skaters told Huey of a meeting that took
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place the morning after Pam and Eric
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were killed so we gotta come up with
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something then we know he wasn't alone
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but what about the cops came gotta get
00:31:00
it all straight now okay so he's by
00:31:02
himself he's on foot right right he's
00:31:03
all high even though he's dying yeah and
00:31:05
then what was walking through this
00:31:07
neighborhood and he sees this house okay
00:31:09
the witness said it appeared that the
00:31:11
skeeters were trying to concoct an alibi
00:31:14
for a person or persons who had been
00:31:16
with Chris put'em when the murders
00:31:18
occurred by himself
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right
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she motto to say that Pru demand one
00:31:29
accomplice had broken into the elders
00:31:31
house only to burglarize it but they
00:31:36
were high on LSD and ended up murdering
00:31:39
Pam and Eric using one of Eric's
00:31:41
shotguns
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I was at a bar at night and I was
00:31:54
drinking Huy Lyttleton felt that many of
00:31:56
the crucial facts were still unknown
00:31:59
he continued to interview witnesses well
00:32:01
over a hundred in all and they mentioned
00:32:04
something about a party a party that was
00:32:07
just right up up the road he was stunned
00:32:11
when a girl named Nikki Alderson told
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inlet in the early morning hours just
00:32:15
after the murders the skaters had hosted
00:32:17
a party at the crime scene they were
00:32:20
doing a whole bunch of stops when we got
00:32:23
out of this house I saw some people come
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in a distance and we walked up to him
00:32:29
and realized I knew Sinanan Nikki said
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one of the first people she saw at the
00:32:34
party was Chris Prudhoe I don't know I
00:32:42
don't know right now they were all just
00:32:45
standing around drinking and talking and
00:32:47
making different remarks about God and
00:32:50
things like that and we went in there's
00:32:55
people standing around there's people
00:32:57
sitting down you can kind of feel from
00:33:02
the vibes of people you know something
00:33:04
it was kind of weird cuz everybody was
00:33:05
in there you know like I said in their
00:33:07
own little world
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a lot somewhere doing some drugs on the
00:33:14
table and had enough drugs on there
00:33:17
where I could see from a distance of
00:33:20
what they were snorting Nicki claims she
00:33:26
had no idea at the time but two dead
00:33:29
bodies were in the house only the next
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day while watching television which she
00:33:34
absorbed the full impact of the party
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I was watching the news and I saw this
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house in psycho my god it was at that
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house and so I was kind of kept quiet
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you know and just watch and then when I
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saw the gentleman that we're on TV
00:33:54
there were the suspects then I knew you
00:33:56
know that was the guys that was there
00:33:58
that was the people I'd seen and and
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she's come to realization that I was
00:34:03
there we were asked by mr. Littleton to
00:34:09
relook at the case and we did and
00:34:11
everything that he let us know about we
00:34:14
checked into and found out it was not
00:34:16
reliable information or it didn't have
00:34:21
factual information enough to bring to
00:34:23
the district attorney's office also
00:34:25
everything that we reviewed the district
00:34:27
attorney reviews and so has the attorney
00:34:29
general state of Louisiana reviewed and
00:34:32
its facts speak for itself the Sheriff's
00:34:38
Department says they saw no evidence
00:34:40
that a party had been held in the house
00:34:42
however Huey Littleton found one other
00:34:45
person who confirmed Niki Alderson --zz
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account
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this witness added sickening details
00:34:53
claiming that the dead bodies of Pam and
00:34:55
Eric were molested sexually by more than
00:34:58
one person those claims are verified by
00:35:02
this man chip Rashard chip told Huey
00:35:06
that although he was not at the Ellender
00:35:08
house he had seen video tapes which were
00:35:11
made that night I've seen one and I've
00:35:18
talked to a couple other people to sing
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them to me every one of them that I did
00:35:26
you know the people I've talked to you
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to see them it's all the same they show
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on the video what I saw in the video was
00:35:34
the people killing the elders having
00:35:38
sexual contact with them you know just
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basically everything that really goes on
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you know this is about as low as
00:35:50
humanity can crawl or dig or furrow
00:35:58
where is their soul word is their spirit
00:36:07
he was now convinced that the truth
00:36:09
behind the murder of his daughter and
00:36:11
son-in-law was far more sinister than he
00:36:13
ever imagined with Chris put'em dead 18
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year-old Robert Atkins emerged as a key
00:36:20
figure in the case Atkins as one of the
00:36:23
three young men arrested with Prudhomme
00:36:25
and Baton Rouge Bobby took me in the
00:36:28
backyard he told me that he wanted to
00:36:30
tell me what had happened because he
00:36:32
needed to get off of his chest while out
00:36:36
on bail
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Adkins allegedly told Sean moody that he
00:36:40
was present when Chris put'em killed the
00:36:42
Islanders he told me they were looking
00:36:47
around for valuables him and Chris and
00:36:51
they had found a gun shotgun and when
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they entered the master bedroom the wife
00:36:57
woke up Chris shot the wife first and
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then the husband had woken and Chris
00:37:02
shot him but according a chip research
00:37:07
Oetken said that Chris put'em had not
00:37:09
murdered anyone instead he had
00:37:12
volunteered to take the fall for his
00:37:14
fellow skaters yeah yeah he had told me
00:37:21
that uh you know Chris was taking the
00:37:24
rap form because Chris was becoming the
00:37:28
leader in the cult and I just basically
00:37:31
everybody that was witty worshipped him
00:37:33
and you know would do anything for me
00:37:36
and you know in return he had to do for
00:37:41
them to saying that they would do for
00:37:42
him Kim came to me about one or two days
00:37:48
after the murders and she told me that
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she was there finally Huey Littleton
00:37:55
found a key witness pearl FRU J yeah she
00:37:59
went into a lot of detail about about
00:38:02
everything about Pam and about Eric and
00:38:06
about the baby pearl claimed that her
00:38:08
cousin Kim Manuel was in the house when
00:38:11
the murders took place she she was
00:38:13
definitely there do you think we can get
00:38:17
her to talk about it on tape he's sure
00:38:22
of it Kim's my friend she's my cousin I
00:38:26
mean I don't want to do anything to her
00:38:29
behind her back
00:38:32
Chris one other girl and another guy
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were in the house the next day pearl did
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record a conversation with Kim's
00:38:41
permission
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Kim described the murders in detail but
00:38:45
never admitted on the tape to being in
00:38:48
the house herself Chris bumped something
00:38:51
and Eric woke up I guess he went to grab
00:38:54
for the gun and Chris shot him then if
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ham woke up and the other guy shot her
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Chris was gonna kill the baby too but
00:39:06
the girl told him no she took the baby
00:39:10
and brought it in to Pam and Eric's room
00:39:13
and laid it down with them and then she
00:39:17
went outside I've been getting threats
00:39:21
about this girl what am I supposed to do
00:39:26
pearl thought the best thing she could
00:39:28
do was present the tape before a grand
00:39:30
jury
00:39:32
and now the actual tape this to us was a
00:39:48
pinnacle point in the investigation
00:39:53
after hearing a lot of testimony I mean
00:39:57
from many witnesses the grand jury
00:40:01
returned an indictment of two counts of
00:40:03
second degree murder against kill Manuel
00:40:12
some believe the indictment was a legal
00:40:15
maneuver to pressure Kim Manuel into
00:40:17
identifying other possible suspects if
00:40:20
so the ploy failed
00:40:23
Kim Manuel's court-appointed public
00:40:25
defender John Laverne called a press
00:40:27
conference
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he claimed that pro Fouchet was lying
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that the tape had been scripted and
00:40:33
rehearsed she and him then concocted
00:40:39
this story that they wanted to hear and
00:40:44
then she produced the tape recorder
00:40:46
openly and showed it to Kim and they set
00:40:49
there with a scripted conversation and
00:40:51
recorded it and brought it back and gave
00:40:53
it to these people that being what they
00:40:54
wanted to hear
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Perle few J's stands by her story we
00:41:00
never made up the tape I never lied what
00:41:03
I told them was the truth and Kim knows
00:41:07
is the truth I can't change what she
00:41:10
told me and I'm not gonna make up
00:41:13
another story just to make her look good
00:41:17
one year later the charges against Kim
00:41:20
Manuel were dropped without prejudice
00:41:22
which means that she could be indicted
00:41:24
again later on
00:41:26
Yui Littleton was bitterly disappointed
00:41:28
and today he has apparently lost almost
00:41:31
all credibility with the authorities we
00:41:36
felt sorry for him at first but it's got
00:41:38
to a point that he's gone way beyond the
00:41:40
balance we got to deal with facts I mean
00:41:44
you go before a judge and a jury he
00:41:46
won't be able to bring all these
00:41:48
accusations he'll have to deal with
00:41:50
facts and I think any grand jury and he
00:41:53
just attorney any attorney general would
00:41:55
agree with that
00:41:56
I'm at peace with what I'm doing because
00:42:00
we're doing the right thing there's a
00:42:03
lot of people out there that don't have
00:42:05
the resources or the knowledge to do
00:42:07
what I've done had they lost their child
00:42:10
so I represent those people I represent
00:42:13
my daughter
00:42:14
I represent my son-in-law and their
00:42:16
child we just want to see those that
00:42:21
participated in the murders of Eric and
00:42:24
Pam and the cover-up and the destruction
00:42:29
of evidence brought to justice justice
00:42:35
under the law
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next a woman is reunited with her birth
00:43:01
mother after more than half a century
00:43:03
apart recently we brought you the story
00:43:16
of Meredith Atkinson who is looking for
00:43:19
her birth mother
00:43:20
Rosemarie luckner in 1938
00:43:25
Rosemarie found herself pregnant and
00:43:27
unmarried she sought refuge at the home
00:43:30
of redeeming loan a shelter for unwed
00:43:32
mothers at Oklahoma City Oklahoma it was
00:43:38
there that Meredith was born 53 years
00:43:45
later 1991
00:43:47
Meredith returned to her birthplace to
00:43:49
search for clues about her past I found
00:43:55
out that my mother was Irish and German
00:43:59
descent I found out that she had one
00:44:04
sister and four brothers they were field
00:44:09
workers
00:44:11
I would like to be able to look at her
00:44:15
and tell her mother I understand I know
00:44:21
you had to do what was best for you and
00:44:25
that I'd like to know you I'd like to
00:44:28
get to know you as a direct result of
00:44:33
our broadcast a private investigator
00:44:35
named Glenda Allen contacted Meredith
00:44:37
and volunteered to take on the search
00:44:39
just one month later
00:44:41
Meredith received the exciting news her
00:44:44
mother 78 year-old rosemary luck mer had
00:44:47
been found though she's been in failing
00:44:49
health for several years Rosemarie was
00:44:51
anxious to see her long-lost daughter in
00:44:58
September of 1994 Meredith and her two
00:45:01
children traveled from Arizona to
00:45:03
collude Oklahoma for the much
00:45:05
anticipated reunion
00:45:08
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00:45:15
Landis uncle water rose Marie's brother
00:45:18
answered the door Maryann I'm so tickled
00:45:36
I think that finding my mother and
00:45:40
seeing her in and her family has brought
00:45:44
closure to my life I needed
00:45:50
I needed this your even your even a
00:45:56
great-grandma do you know that
00:46:01
yeah I'm just tickled to death she's
00:46:04
here yeah this wish we was closer
00:46:07
together we could visit them more often
00:46:09
you know but I plan to go through there
00:46:11
and visit her in Arizona when I go to
00:46:14
see my brothers you know that way we
00:46:17
kind of know way up there
00:46:18
might be a little out of a bad way but
00:46:19
it'd be worth it
00:46:21
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00:46:23
it's like gaining a new family and you
00:46:28
know it's just like gaining new friends
00:46:30
too I absolutely am going to be
00:46:37
overjoyed to write to them and talk to
00:46:40
them and get to know them
00:46:44
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00:46:52
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00:47:02
thanks for watching join me next time
00:47:06
for another fascinating edition
00:47:08
abundance solve mysteries
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