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Unsolved Mysteries with Robert Stack - Season 4, Episode 14 - Full Episode

May 22, 2019 / 44:16

This episode covers the murder case of Debbie Reis, the disappearance of Helen Rose Myron, and updates on other unsolved mysteries. Key discussions include the conviction of Larry Reis for his wife's murder, the mysterious life of Helen Rose, and a dramatic police shootout involving a fugitive.

Debbie Reis's body was found in Lake Superior in 1982, and her husband, Larry Reis, was convicted of murder despite his claims of innocence. The prosecution argued that Larry had motive due to a life insurance policy and that he had intentionally allowed Debbie to freeze to death. Larry maintains that the incident was an accident.

Helen Rose Myron, a young Ojibwe woman, joined the Royal Canadian Air Force in 1941 but vanished shortly after leaving home. Her family has not seen her for nearly 50 years, and they continue to seek answers about her fate.

The episode also updates viewers on a man charged with murdering his wife, who was apprehended following a shootout with police after being featured on the show.

Throughout the episode, the emotional impact of these unsolved mysteries is highlighted, particularly the lasting effects on the families involved.

TL;DR

Larry Reis maintains his innocence in the murder of his wife Debbie, while Helen Rose Myron's disappearance remains a mystery.

Episode

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this program is about unsolved mysteries
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whenever possible the actual family
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members and police officials have
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participated in recreating the events
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what you were about to see is not a news
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broadcast the late 12 1982 the body of a
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young Minnesota housewife washed up on
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the shore of Lake Superior her husband
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Larry Race was convicted of murder and
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sentenced to life in prison
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this day rais'd maintains his innocence
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and his dead wife's parents support his
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claim in Larry Reis guilty or innocent
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tellin rose Meyer and grew up on the
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long plane reservation in Manitoba
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Canada in 1941
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Helen Rose was banished by her father
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when she joined the Royal Canadian Air
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Force heartbroken she vanished her
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family has not seen her in nearly 50
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years also thanks to our viewers a man
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charged with murdering his wife is now
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in custody following a dramatic shootout
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with police
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join me perhaps you may be able to help
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solve a mystery
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Lake Superior headwater of the Great
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Lakes the largest freshwater lake in the
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world
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the water temperature hovers near
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freezing for most of the year
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a personal adrift without a life raft
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stands little chance of survival on May
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12 1982 the lake claimed another victim
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33 year old Debbie Reis her life jacket
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was intact she had not drowned
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Debbie Race had succumbed to the icy
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lake temperatures and died of
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hypothermia
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according to the authorities Debbie
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races death was no accident her husband
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Larry race was accused of deliberately
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allowing her to freeze to death and Lake
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Superior he was subsequently convicted
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of murder yet Debbie's own Parris
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believe that Larry could not possibly
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have harmed their daughter after eight
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agonizing years and five unsuccessful
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post trial reviews this is the final
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appeal of Larry race
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Larry Reis is currently serving a life
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sentence at Stillwater state prison in
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Minneapolis Minnesota
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he maintains if the jury was convicted
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him was prejudiced because he had a long
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history of adulterous relationships what
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happened that night was an accident
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I didn't kill there be yes I was
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unfaithful but I had nothing to do with
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her death that night adultery yes I'm
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guilty for that sorry for it I am I was
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tremely sorry
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debbie and larry race along with her
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three children lived in Hoyt Lakes
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Minnesota 75 miles from Lake Superior
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Larry's hobbies were boating and scuba
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diving debbie built her world around her
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home and her children over the years
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Larry and Debbie's marriage suffered
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badly because of his affairs but by 1982
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Larry says they had vowed to try again
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may eleventh of 1982 was Larry and
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Debbie's 14th wedding anniversary to
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celebrate they had dinner at Lakeview
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restaurant and took their boat named the
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Jenny Lee after their daughters on a
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lake superior for an evening cruise
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it felt as if things were starting over
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again things we had a like a renewed
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spirit I I wanted to stop what I was
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doing and I was thinking you know maybe
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this is a chance you know I have a
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wonderful woman here there's nothing
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wrong with her and and I want to take an
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about-face after darkness fell Larry and
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Debbie drifted contentedly they stayed
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about one mile offshore enjoying the
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view of the city lights and listening to
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tapes of their favorite music suddenly
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at 9:00 p.m. the mood was broken
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Debbi noticed that the boat was taking
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on water Larry there is water Larry says
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Debbie began to panic
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she had no faith in the Jenny Lee
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because it had nearly sunk the summer
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before this is when he pinned cover off
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the engine we notice there was water
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spraying all over the place
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we shut the engine down took the
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alternator loosened up the bolt and
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dropped the Altair
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so as we drop the alternator shut the
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engine down the water leakage stopped
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I think they don't work I'm gonna have
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to tape it though things were pretty
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well under control okay then we work
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together to get to both fixed we work
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together to get up the water stopped and
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everything was okay now we feel endanger
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the light on can you cut this tape right
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here once we got all the repairs done
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Debbie went to start the engine well I
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figured she just didn't know how to
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started to the right so I went to start
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I made it to almost a battery was so did
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I we had two batteries on the boat
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you know what start from either so now
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we're both back by the engine wondering
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why it won't start the fear came to both
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of us when we heard that gushin and that
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whooshing noise from the bottom of the
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board I mean I was scared long with her
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she made me scared no I didn't know how
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to I wasn't thinking right I didn't I
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didn't listen to what I what I should
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have done
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I made poor judgments I listened to what
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she said get off the boat first thing we
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did was hold her life pass out to get
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her blowing up we always carry scuba
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tank on the board for that purpose we
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tossed that one aside by the second one
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and we filled that one up the same way
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we started the first one and that was
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filled it worked fine even though these
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are two main rafts
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you're gonna get in here I'm gonna drag
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it to shore okay okay Debbie put her
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personal evaluations as well as Larry
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shoes into a gear bag she took the bag
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at a scuba tank wither in the life raft
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Larry Reese had his dry suit and scuba
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tanks on board he was a strong swimmer
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and thought he could tow Debbie and the
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raft to safety he had done the same
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thing with his daughters when the Jenny
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Lee had run into trouble before I knew I
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had to push her to shore and I knew I
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could I was strong enough she said the
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same thing - Larry you're strong enough
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you can
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they pushed and pushed things making it
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I was saying okay but I started getting
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cold
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[Music]
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Oh
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she was terrified and at that time I
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knew I couldn't get interacted and uh
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and I thought that you know I would die
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at that time I made a lot for judgement
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looked off to the right and there was
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lights coming it's not good for him
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nights were closer swimming ashore
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Debbie was going that way toward Shore I
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was going the opposite way for help one
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of us were going to get help one of us
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were going to get the shore the
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everyone's gonna get to shore for help
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or I was gonna get to devote for help
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one of us we're gonna get somebody to
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help
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the light Larry race it seems his own
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boat this time the engine started after
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catching his breath he was search for
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Debbie all the wild firing distress
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flares in the end Mary would return to
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shore and notify the Coast Guard they
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would conduct a grid search of the lake
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to avail
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the next afternoon a teenager on his way
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home from school saw Debbie raises body
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on the lakeshore gallery' race was
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charged with murder
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at his trial Larry races attorneys
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advised him not to take the stand on his
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own behalf
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after he was convicted Larry hired a new
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team of lawyers insisting that he'd been
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the victim of incompetent counsel
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Larry Reis believes that if he had
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testified the jury would not have found
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him guilty the prosecuting attorney at
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Larry races trial with john de santa
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with duluth minnesota even though the
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case against larry was circumstantial de
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santé was able to convince a jury that
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larry race had the opportunity means and
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motive to murder his wife I have
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absolutely no doubt that Larry Reis is
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guilty of first-degree murder
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and that's why I believe that this is
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not an appropriate case for unsolved
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mysteries it simply is not an unsolved
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mystery I believe the evidence showed
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that he wanted out of an unhappy
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marriage at this time in his life and at
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the same time he had a hundred and eight
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thousand dollars of life insurance on
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her life in place that he had purchased
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within the seven months previous to her
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death through credit life insurance
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part of it about $37,000 was mortgage
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insurance that came along with the
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mortgage on his house the rest of it
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came as part of a group policy from his
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credit union and there was some
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testimony in fact that Debbie had been
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the one to seek out this additional
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insurance coverage
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very racist defense was built around his
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story of mechanical problems of the
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jenilee the prosecution claimed Larry
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concocted the entire episode after his
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trial the Jenny Lee was sold an
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independent mechanic examined the
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starter the mechanic said that it was
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worn and that the type of problem that
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he saw there would cause an intermittent
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starting failure at the knot the engine
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on some occasions would not start at one
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of Larry races post-conviction hearings
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following the trial a man did come
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forward and testify that he had found a
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starter problem in the Jenny Lee
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in late May or early June of 1984 or two
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years after Debbie's death the night
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have made 11th and 12th of 82 he simply
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could not say that this was a problem he
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that would that was on the boat the
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night of Deborah races death and
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therefore was ruled irrelevant both in
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the trial court and ultimately in the
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appellate courts larry race is adamant
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that he had two life rafts on board the
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Jenny Lee well the evidence clearly
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showed there was but one raft on the
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Jenny Lee the night of May
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twelve of 1982 every one of Larry races
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diving companions or friends or both
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that testified at the trial said that
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they had never seen him in possession of
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two blue and yellow rafts as he claims
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and also as significant is the fact that
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the search and rescue people from the
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Coast Guard said that if that raft had
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existed they would have found it we
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don't have that Larry racist remain a
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deputy sheriff testified that Larry had
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told him there were two life rafts on
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board mention any noisemakers of any
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sort no we don't have a noisemaker but
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we do have two rafts I just have got
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another raft this deputy testified that
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Larry specifically told him quote what
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about rafts I have to that deputy
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testified about that happening over two
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weeks beforehand well sounds like he got
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just about everything yeah
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the prosecution points out that the
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deputy's testimony was inconsistent
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running his first question eleven days
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after Debbie races death he said he knew
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nothing about to rat
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[Music]
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the prosecution claims that Larry pushed
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Debbie in the raft well away from a
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Jenny Lee then returned to the boat and
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donned his scuba equipment
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they say there he swam back under
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Debbie's raft and slashed it with a
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knife leaving her to freeze to death in
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the icy waters this was very significant
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evidence at the trial and it was that
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there were five punctures or cuts in the
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bottom of the raft placed in in the raft
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while it was inflated because as the
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experts testified there was no knife cut
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on the top of the raft that would
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correspond with the bottom puncture
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meaning the the air chambers were
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inflated and strategically placed in
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that they cut both air chambers it
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wasn't a random thing like vandalism
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where someone who isn't really intent on
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cutting both air chambers but just
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damaging a piece of property they were
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placed in both their chambers from the
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bottom while the raft was inflated the
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prosecution failed to produce the knife
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used to cut the raft the puncture marks
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did not match the only knife found on
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board the Jenny Lee
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[Music]
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the prosecution asserts that once debbie
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had been set adrift larry drive the life
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raft back to the Jenny Lee so you'd have
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support for his story about attempting
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to inflate a first draft or of the
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events that leads to the action of Larry
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according to the prosecution required
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superhuman effort a super feat that were
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not just physically possible witnesses
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placed the Jenny Lee here near the mouth
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of the Tallmadge River at 8:30 p.m. and
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again at 9:30 Debbie's body was found
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here seven miles away according to Jean
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will be no it would have been impossible
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for a body to drift that far without a
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raft if she had been in a water with a
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parka with a life vest she can only
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travel one to two miles and will he'd
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show somewhere the only way she could
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have landed seven miles down was on a
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raft the fact that we just don't know
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where the Jenny Lee was on the lake at
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the time he persuaded that the primary
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race persuaded Debbie to leave it makes
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it impossible to then start with a drift
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theory that would put her body at such
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in such a place whether she's in a raft
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or without a raft because we again don't
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have a precise starting point we never
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did have one and that's what makes it so
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difficult to give any credibility to the
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Abha no drift theory that was presented
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by the defense
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according to Larry races attorneys the
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skin lividity and Debbie's body also
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proves that she came ashore in a life
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raft
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Debbie's blood had not sunk to her feet
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they claimed it would have done so if
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she'd been kept afloat in an upright
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position by a life vest the lividity of
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Debbie races blood following her death
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was to the back and that was consistent
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or is consistent with the fact that she
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floated in the water with that life
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jacket without a raft available to her
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because as the expert testified at trial
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this particular life jacket would have
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kept her basically face-up on her back
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as she floated after following her death
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her body of course was then found
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face-up on its back on the on the shore
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of Lake Superior as well which would
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continue the lividity to her back and
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the autopsy report clearly indicates the
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lividity was to her back
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after hearing all the evidence but
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without hearing from Larry Reis himself
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a jury of four men and eight women found
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him guilty of murder I couldn't believe
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it
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because there was no hard cold evidence
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hard facts
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there wasn't anything was all
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circumstantial
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there was nothing concrete about his
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case at all except he had his affairs
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it's hard to take you know when so many
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people think he was guilty but it's
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never been a problem with us we just
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don't believe he was guilty if you only
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knew Larry you wouldn't think that Larry
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would ever do anything like that today
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I'm angry at the fact that he was able
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to convince 12 jurors that this happened
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without without any facts without any
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evidence he just says we think Larry did
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it we want him convicted and that's what
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he did
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[Music]
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[Music]
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in 1981 seventeen-year-old Annette
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shockers fell in love with Jim Burns
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Sylar a butcher at the grocery store for
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a networked a year later the couple
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married the bride was just 18 the groom
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46 for Annette the marriage marked the
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beginning of a nightmare
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she became afraid of him almost
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immediately because he was jealous of
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her and when he was drinking he was
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violent and and made remarks to her all
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the time that she would never ever leave
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him that well he started telling her
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right from the beginning that he would
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kill her if she ever tried to leave him
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in 1987 after five years of nearly
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constant emotional and physical abuse
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and had finally found the courage to
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leave Jim
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two months later Jim Burnside brutally
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attacked Annette at one of her
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co-workers
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[Music]
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but if coworkers survived the attack a
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net had been stabbed 15 times of the
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butcher knife and is pronounced dead at
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the scene
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that afternoon Jim Burnside disappeared
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it's bad enough knowing that a net had
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to die but to know that he is still out
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there it's horrible we just want him
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caught and I just hope and pray that
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somebody spots him update the night to
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story aired to viewers contacted our
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telecenter to report the Jim Burnside is
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living in Shelby County Alabama under
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the assumed name L Wilson when I saw his
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actual picture I just looked at my
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husband and I just started pointing and
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I'm going you know tell me my eyes
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aren't deceiving me you know that is al
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and he goes yes that's al the first
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thing I thought to say well they you
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know let's call up the authorities and
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get this guy off the street
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Burnside was employed as a carpenter the
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280 flea market just outside of Chelsea
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Alabama we hadn't saved a call from the
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FBI office in Birmingham stating that
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they felt pretty sure that James
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Burnside would be at this flea market on
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highway 280 located in Shelby County the
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morning after our broadcast FBI agents
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and sheriff's deputies checked out the
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flea market right there on the roof and
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apparently Burnside saw them and went
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towards his truck the fugitive drew a
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357 magnum and pointed it at the officer
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[Music]
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Burnside was struck by two bullets he
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was placed under arrest and taken to a
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Birmingham hospital but what we've been
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able to determine and again talking to
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his co-workers that he hadn't made a
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statement on Thursday morning that he
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had anticipated having problems that day
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so apparently he had viewed the unsolved
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mystery since that wins tonight
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[Music]
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[Music]
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on April 1st 1988 gene Ito very wealthy
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socialite from Phoenix Arizona was
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murdered in her own bed while she slept
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at the time of her death she was worth
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several million dollars most of it
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inherited from her late husband a genie
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Tori's origins were humbled genie was
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born in a small Arkansas farming
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community and married fresh out of high
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school in 1953 her marriage failed and
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genie eventually wound up in Phoenix
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working as a cocktail waitress Jeannie
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had no intention of spending her life
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waiting tables on her rest breaks she
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studied real estate law determined to
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make a better life for herself
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several years later Jeannie was well on
00:24:28
her way she had obtained her real estate
00:24:30
license in 1970 and become an immediate
00:24:32
success in 1971 one of Jeannie's clients
00:24:37
introduced her to Edward Tovar II the
00:24:39
charming wealthy divorcee genes the one
00:24:41
that helped us on that real estate knew
00:24:42
I was telling you about which did a
00:24:44
great job congratulations that was super
00:24:46
thanks you're embarrassing they should
00:24:48
never be embarrassed when somebody tells
00:24:49
you you've done something well it's part
00:24:51
of the business I think you're gonna do
00:24:53
well because of your people skills I bet
00:24:55
you're good at it had all the qualities
00:24:57
that Jane was looking for like to
00:25:00
propose a toast
00:25:00
it's just that simple old friends and to
00:25:03
new friendships you have to kiss a lot
00:25:07
of frogs before you find their friends
00:25:09
and she considered that a prince
00:25:14
ed tovrea embarked on an intense
00:25:16
courtship the genie was swept off her
00:25:18
feet
00:25:19
Ed's ancestors had made millions in the
00:25:22
cattle business and were among the
00:25:23
founding fathers of Phoenix but ed tove
00:25:27
remade his old name as a pilot in World
00:25:29
War two he was shot down and taken as a
00:25:32
prisoner of war by the Germans Eadie
00:25:34
helped engineer the famous Great Escape
00:25:36
digging tunnels which allowed 79 other
00:25:39
POWs to go free less than a year after
00:25:44
they met Jeanne and ed were married in a
00:25:47
private ceremony in Hawaii GD became an
00:25:50
instant hit with a Phoenix upper crust
00:25:53
she seemed to fall right into it as if
00:25:56
though she'd had that money forever she
00:25:58
was welcomed and very very well loved
00:26:01
extremely liked I don't know of one and
00:26:03
I can honestly say this I don't know one
00:26:04
person that disliked Janie she was just
00:26:07
well as very special people with very
00:26:08
special qualities she treated people
00:26:11
like she wanted to be treated I never
00:26:14
saw any heirs with Jean they entertained
00:26:18
a lot very casual entertaining had
00:26:21
friends in they had a very good marriage
00:26:24
they both liked to do the same things
00:26:27
but there was one cloud darkening Jeanne
00:26:29
and Ed's life together respiratory
00:26:32
problems had played dead ever since his
00:26:34
POWs by 1982 he was virtually bedridden
00:26:39
and Jeanie nursed him around the clock
00:26:42
[Music]
00:26:43
Jeanie I think it's about time we talked
00:26:47
about what we're gonna do after I'm gone
00:26:51
yet please don't talk that way I just
00:26:54
want to make sure you're taken care of
00:26:56
you get the house and you're comfortable
00:26:59
okay
00:27:03
jean was not a greedy person
00:27:07
it wasn't like well I I have married you
00:27:11
everything you have is mine this was not
00:27:14
Jane
00:27:16
on July 11th 1983 ed toll-free died he
00:27:21
left Cheney and estate worth millions
00:27:23
including the house and a valuable art
00:27:25
collection it was hard for her to
00:27:30
visualize life without him because he
00:27:33
was her steadying factor I think it was
00:27:36
scary for her
00:27:39
after a period of morning Jeannie threw
00:27:42
herself back into the Phoenix social
00:27:44
world I think was her way to get over
00:27:47
everything and meet people became quite
00:27:51
through the socialite and chaired many
00:27:54
of the balls and her circle of friends
00:27:56
all went so it became a very free Jean
00:27:59
it became a way of doing things for
00:28:02
herself well I'm gonna finish these last
00:28:04
few invitations and call it a night the
00:28:07
evening of March 31st 1988 found Jeannie
00:28:09
Tori preparing the final few invitations
00:28:11
for yet another high society party at
00:28:15
7:00 p.m. she spoke with her sister by
00:28:18
1:00 a.m. the next day
00:28:20
she would be dead
00:28:23
she had mailed those invitations and
00:28:25
then they came right after he found out
00:28:27
that she had been murdered and it did do
00:28:30
a number on all of us it was almost like
00:28:33
remember my party
00:28:35
it was very spooky at the murder scene
00:28:42
police found several fingerprints but
00:28:45
little other physical evidence Jeannie's
00:28:47
purse along with her identification and
00:28:49
credit cards were missing sure those
00:28:56
credit cards have never been found and
00:28:58
they've never been used to this day the
00:29:01
fingerprints that we have have been
00:29:03
compared to every name that's been
00:29:05
mentioned to us has been through our
00:29:08
computer system and we have not
00:29:10
identified who those prints belong to my
00:29:15
opinion and that opinion of two
00:29:17
detectives all felt that she was the
00:29:20
victim of a hit she was killed
00:29:22
intentionally for somebody
00:29:28
[Music]
00:29:31
police theorized that the killer was
00:29:33
familiar with Jeannie's neighborhood
00:29:35
because he had so easily gained access
00:29:37
to her home
00:29:39
[Music]
00:29:42
I would say the suspect at least had
00:29:44
some knowledge of the house entry into
00:29:47
the house was made through a window but
00:29:49
it was done in a manner not to set the
00:29:51
alarm system all
00:29:52
[Music]
00:29:59
there's white carpeting throughout the
00:30:02
house and there was no indications in
00:30:05
any room except her bedroom that anybody
00:30:07
had been in there it appears that he
00:30:10
knew the direct path from the point of
00:30:12
entry to her bedroom and where she was
00:30:14
[Music]
00:30:24
she was shot while she lay in bed asleep
00:30:27
there was no obvious signs of the
00:30:30
struggle
00:30:37
police believe that the killer's
00:30:39
scattered genies costume jewelry simply
00:30:42
to give the appearance of a burglary
00:30:43
attempt he left thousands of dollars
00:30:46
worth of real jewelry untouched in the
00:30:48
next room also it seemed that he wanted
00:30:51
someone to be alerted
00:30:54
the alarm was set off when the sliding
00:30:58
door was opened by the suspect it could
00:31:01
have went out the same way he got in
00:31:03
without ever setting the alarm off it's
00:31:06
only a theory but one of the reasons we
00:31:08
considered is that this person if he was
00:31:11
paid to kill her wanted to let the
00:31:13
person who paid him know that the job
00:31:15
was done
00:31:18
who could have bought a genie toll-free
00:31:20
dead police were at a loss until they
00:31:23
were given the old tapes from her
00:31:24
answering machine that was when they
00:31:28
heard the voice of a mysterious man who
00:31:30
called himself Gordon Phillips beautiful
00:31:39
place another in 1987 Phillips who
00:31:42
claimed to be a magazine writer and
00:31:43
tried to interview Jeannie about her
00:31:45
late husband's powa experiences as I
00:31:49
told you on the phone I'm writing a book
00:31:51
about prisoners of war I'd like to talk
00:31:52
to you specifically about your husband
00:31:54
Edie
00:31:54
well you know that was a very long time
00:31:57
ago I I'm not that familiar with that
00:31:59
pass well surely he must have said
00:32:01
something to you about his sub P Oh w
00:32:03
experienced him and as a a big part of
00:32:06
his life he didn't like to dwell in the
00:32:07
past you know he'd be better off talking
00:32:10
to the first mrs. Topher but you me
00:32:11
sorry about Ed himself your husband the
00:32:14
man what was he like ister Phillips you
00:32:15
say you work for a time life yes well
00:32:18
then of course she would have some
00:32:19
identification you could show me well
00:32:21
actually I'm a freelance writer I'm not
00:32:23
really on staff I can't provide you with
00:32:25
some references you know I'm going to
00:32:28
have to cut you short I have a plane to
00:32:30
catch in the morning and a lodging had
00:32:32
him checked out and Time magazine had
00:32:35
never heard of him
00:32:36
and Jane once again told him that she
00:32:40
was the wrong person to talk to if she
00:32:43
couldn't seem to make him understand
00:32:44
this
00:32:51
Gordon Phillips continued a hound genie
00:32:53
toll-free by phone if she was not in he
00:32:56
left messages on her machine and Jeannie
00:32:59
became certain that Phillips was
00:33:01
following her mr. Phillips I told you I
00:33:03
do not want to meet with you maybe she'd
00:33:06
be at a party or out shopping or
00:33:08
something and she thinks she saw this
00:33:09
guy for a while there it was every time
00:33:13
she went somewhere she would see him he
00:33:16
never came up to her but she was seeing
00:33:20
a crowd and she was extremely nervous
00:33:22
about this police still have no idea who
00:33:37
Gordon Phillips is where he is gone or
00:33:39
whether he was involved in the murder of
00:33:42
Jeanne Tovar II my greatest fear is that
00:33:46
I'll never know why it's inconceivable
00:33:51
to me that Jean was murdered this
00:33:55
happens to other people it's what you
00:33:58
read in the newspaper it doesn't happen
00:33:59
to my family
00:34:01
I miss her as she was my sister she was
00:34:05
my best friend she was mine and she
00:34:09
didn't deserve to die
00:34:11
[Music]
00:34:24
[Music]
00:34:33
when we return the saga of a young
00:34:36
Indian who ran off to join the air force
00:34:38
and never came home
00:34:50
in Manitoba Canada just across the North
00:34:53
Dakota border as a family called the
00:34:55
Myron clan they are part of the Plains
00:34:58
Ojibwe Indian nation in the 1940s a
00:35:02
Myron's found themselves caught between
00:35:03
the global politics of the Second World
00:35:05
War and the deeply rooted traditions of
00:35:08
the Ojibwe there were seven children in
00:35:14
the myrin family the youngest girl Helen
00:35:16
Rose was just six months old when this
00:35:18
picture was taken in 1925 her family is
00:35:22
not seen her for more than half a
00:35:23
century it's been going on too long with
00:35:29
mystery too long too many years have
00:35:32
gone by and would like to find her now
00:35:35
no matter where she is we still love her
00:35:43
and all concerned about churches
00:35:49
when the myrin children were growing up
00:35:51
they spent the winter months in a
00:35:52
government boarding school every summer
00:35:57
they came home to their Paris log cabin
00:35:59
on the Ojibwe reservation
00:36:01
[Music]
00:36:03
Oh Rose come and sit beside me
00:36:08
in September of 1932 the children
00:36:12
prepared to return to school even though
00:36:14
their mother was gravely ill I might not
00:36:18
be here on your turn from school be a
00:36:22
good girl and make me proud of you my
00:36:28
[Applause]
00:36:30
a month later Archie Myron showed up at
00:36:34
his children's school unannounced when
00:36:37
you children left last summer your
00:36:39
mother was very sick Oh dad came and
00:36:44
told us that her mother had passed away
00:36:49
right away I saw what it was gonna do to
00:36:54
her
00:36:55
Helen Rose
00:36:56
[Music]
00:36:59
all of the children were devastated
00:37:01
especially Helen Rose always her
00:37:04
mother's favorite she would never fully
00:37:06
recover from the death
00:37:13
[Music]
00:37:19
by 1941 Helen Rose was in her junior
00:37:22
year at the boarding school she was 17
00:37:25
and the world had become a very
00:37:27
different place right now as I'm
00:37:32
speaking the German courts are marching
00:37:34
across Europe causing havoc destruction
00:37:36
and death Hitler's armies were
00:37:39
threatening to overrun the globe the new
00:37:42
principal at the boarding schools
00:37:43
actively interventionist a mock and
00:37:45
Helen homes became swept up in the
00:37:47
anti-fascist fervor you know I've talked
00:37:50
to you about joining the reserve this is
00:37:52
your opportunity to join the world that
00:37:55
really matters he was teaching them the
00:37:57
role of the other society and I presume
00:38:02
that such were Helen got her idea to
00:38:06
better her life with the outside world
00:38:10
and to join the airport
00:38:16
Helen Rose dropped out of high school in
00:38:19
an unprecedented move for an Ojibwe
00:38:21
woman she had listed in the Royal
00:38:23
Canadian Air Force when they discovered
00:38:25
that Helen Rose is underage the Air
00:38:28
Force ordered her to obtain her father's
00:38:30
permission
00:38:30
[Music]
00:38:35
Helen Rose returned to the reservation
00:38:38
in July as a tribal elder
00:38:41
Archie Myron was helping preside over
00:38:42
the annual summer thirsting dance when
00:38:45
the plains Ojibwe erect traditional
00:38:47
structures and offer prayers to the
00:38:49
Great Spirit papers and she asked my dad
00:38:56
to sign those papers what is this paper
00:38:59
all right join the Canadian Armed Forces
00:39:01
I don't think I want you to join the
00:39:04
airforce my daughter
00:39:05
why not and you told her that I don't
00:39:09
want you to die someplace else if you go
00:39:12
to war you may not come back so he
00:39:15
didn't sign those papers and Haran Rose
00:39:19
got mad said you'll never see me again
00:39:26
[Applause]
00:39:29
very proud to see Helen in the airport
00:39:35
I often think now if he had consented to
00:39:39
signing his name on there this would
00:39:44
have been very different we would have
00:39:47
I'm sure that we would have had Halden
00:39:49
roles with us here all this time yet
00:39:55
Helen Rose did not return to her
00:39:57
father's cabin she spent the night with
00:40:00
an aunt the next morning she said her
00:40:02
last goodbyes you take care of yourself
00:40:06
I'm gonna miss her
00:40:08
yeah I'm gonna miss you too when she was
00:40:11
leaving her auntie's place she told her
00:40:15
aunty well I'm leaving now and you'll
00:40:18
never see me again I'm not don't ever
00:40:20
coming back
00:40:23
take care okay sure very disappointed
00:40:27
she was actually never disappointed why
00:40:32
she didn't get that signature
00:40:40
[Music]
00:40:42
two years later Helen Rose did return to
00:40:45
the area and where are you stationed
00:40:47
miss when Angus Merrick walked into the
00:40:49
general store 15 miles from the
00:40:51
reservation he was shocked to see his
00:40:54
sister-in-law hello
00:40:56
Angus nice to see rose how you doing I'm
00:41:01
fine
00:41:01
she had her uniform on and all should
00:41:04
have good thank you
00:41:06
I said your father just across the
00:41:08
street here I'll go together maybe they
00:41:12
want to see you too I'll be right back
00:41:14
okay just won't take long
00:41:16
so I went over and told her
00:41:19
Archie that his daughter or Helen was
00:41:23
there and still if you would you like to
00:41:27
come and without hesitation he came
00:41:29
right away
00:41:31
[Music]
00:41:36
when a time we cut the store I couldn't
00:41:39
find our she disappeared
00:41:41
[Music]
00:41:44
he was your
00:41:45
[Music]
00:41:52
sixteen years later Archie Myron died
00:41:55
without ever having made peace with his
00:41:57
youngest daughter
00:42:00
[Music]
00:42:03
each year our team iris family gathers
00:42:06
at the cemetery to honor the entire
00:42:08
Myron clan while Ojibwe ceremony the
00:42:11
extended family now numbers 150 and
00:42:14
still they long for the return of Helen
00:42:16
Rose even if she has passed away her
00:42:21
family wants to know so that Helen roses
00:42:24
spirit can be honored in accordance with
00:42:26
the Ojibwe tradition
00:42:32
I don't know what's keeping her away I'm
00:42:35
sure she cannot hold a grudge this long
00:42:38
we have no part in it just between her
00:42:42
and my dad not us she said she wasn't
00:42:49
going to come back and she has sucked
00:42:51
your word true but a real in general
00:42:58
[Music]
00:43:18
join me next week for another edition
00:43:21
unsolved mysteries
00:43:26
[Music]
00:44:02
you
00:44:03
[Music]

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  • 80
    Most heartbreaking
  • 75
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  • 70
    Most dramatic
  • 65
    Most shocking

Episode Highlights

  • The Tragic Death of Debbie Reis
    On May 12, 1982, Debbie Reis was found dead in Lake Superior, leading to her husband Larry's conviction for murder.
    “Debbie had succumbed to the icy lake temperatures and died of hypothermia.”
    @ 02m 31s
    May 22, 2019
  • Larry Reis's Defense
    Larry maintains that his conviction was based on circumstantial evidence and prejudiced jury perceptions.
    “I have absolutely no doubt that Larry Reis is guilty of first-degree murder.”
    @ 10m 38s
    May 22, 2019
  • The Aftermath of the Trial
    Despite a lack of concrete evidence, Larry was found guilty, leaving his family in disbelief.
    “I couldn’t believe it because there was no hard cold evidence.”
    @ 18m 06s
    May 22, 2019
  • Jeanne's Struggles
    Jeanne faced dark clouds in her life despite a loving marriage.
    “But there was one cloud darkening Jeanne and Ed's life together.”
    @ 26m 27s
    May 22, 2019
  • The Night of the Murder
    Jeannie prepared for a high society party, unaware it would be her last night.
    “The evening of March 31st 1988 found Jeannie preparing the final few invitations.”
    @ 28m 07s
    May 22, 2019
  • The Mysterious Caller
    Jeannie received unsettling calls from a man claiming to be a writer.
    “Gordon Phillips continued to hound Jeannie by phone if she was not in.”
    @ 32m 53s
    May 22, 2019

Episode Quotes

  • It was almost like remember my party.
    Unsolved Mysteries with Robert Stack - Season 4, Episode 14 - Full Episode
  • It's inconceivable to me that Jean was murdered.
    Unsolved Mysteries with Robert Stack - Season 4, Episode 14 - Full Episode
  • I miss her as she was my sister she was my best friend.
    Unsolved Mysteries with Robert Stack - Season 4, Episode 14 - Full Episode

Key Moments

  • Unsolved Mysteries00:03
  • Life Raft Incident08:01
  • Trial Controversy10:00
  • Emotional Turmoil18:20
  • Love and Loss26:21
  • Murder Mystery28:20
  • Unanswered Questions33:42
  • Family Bonds42:06

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