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Narrator: FOR 18 YEARS,
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A MASS MURDERER SUCCESSFULLY
ELUDED THE F.B.I.
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[PEOPLE SINGING
<i> A MIGHTY FORTRESS IS OUR GOD]</i>
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HE WAS WANTED FOR THE MURDER
OF HIS ENTIRE FAMILY.
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[GUNSHOT]
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[GUNSHOT]
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[GUNSHOT]
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[GUNSHOTS]
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[GUN COCKING]
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[GUNSHOT]
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THIS IS HOW ART AND SCIENCE
LED TO HIS CAPTURE.
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Narrator: THE LIST FAMILY
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LIVED IN
THIS LARGE VICTORIAN HOME
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IN THE QUIET, AFFLUENT TOWN
OF WESTFIELD, NEW JERSEY.
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JOHN LIST WAS
A 46-YEAR-OLD ACCOUNTANT.
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HE AND HIS WIFE HELEN
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HAD BEEN MARRIED
FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS.
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THEY HAD 3 CHILDREN,
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16-YEAR-OLD PATRICIA,
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15-YEAR-OLD JOHN,
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AND 13-YEAR-OLD FREDDIE.
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JOHN LIST'S
ELDERLY MOTHER ALMA
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ALSO LIVED WITH THE FAMILY
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IN HER OWN SEPARATE APARTMENT
ON THE THIRD FLOOR.
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THE LIST CHILDREN
ATTENDED LOCAL SCHOOLS
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AND WERE ALL ACTIVE
AND POPULAR.
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JOHN LIST WAS A DEVOUT LUTHERAN
AND TAUGHT SUNDAY SCHOOL.
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IN THE FALL OF 1971,
THE LIST HOUSE STOOD EMPTY.
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THE FAMILY WAS AWAY
VISITING A SICK RELATIVE.
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BUT WHEN A MONTH WENT BY
WITH NO SIGNS OF ACTIVITY,
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NEIGHBORS GREW SUSPICIOUS
AND DECIDED TO CALL THE POLICE.
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THEY FELT
THAT SOMETHING WAS WRONG.
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THEY ASKED US TO CHECK
THE HOUSE, WHICH WE DID.
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Narrator:
WHEN POLICE ARRIVED,
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THEY ENTERED THE HOUSE
THROUGH AN UNLOCKED WINDOW.
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THE HOUSE WAS COLD,
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AND THERE WERE NO SIGNS
OF ACTIVITY,
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BUT THEY HEARD MUSIC.
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LIKE A FUNERAL--
DIRGE-TYPE MUSIC
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THAT WAS VERY DISTURBING TO
THE OFFICERS WHO WERE IN THERE.
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Narrator: THE POLICE
ALSO NOTICED THE FAINT SMELL
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OF DECOMPOSING FLESH.
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THEY FOUND THE SOURCE
IN THE BALLROOM--
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4 BODIES, EACH LYING
ON A BLOOD-SOAKED SLEEPING BAG,
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LINED UP NEATLY
SIDE BY SIDE.
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THE VICTIMS WERE
IDENTIFIED AS HELEN LIST
AND HER 3 CHILDREN.
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ALL HAD BEEN SHOT TO DEATH
AT CLOSE RANGE.
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POLICE NOTICED A BLOOD TRAIL
ON THE FLOOR,
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INDICATING THAT
HELEN AND THE CHILDREN
WERE SHOT IN THE KITCHEN,
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THEN DRAGGED
INTO THE BALLROOM.
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IN THE KITCHEN,
POLICE FOUND BAGS FULL
OF BLOOD-SOAKED PAPER TOWELS
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AND A BLOODY MOP--
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EVIDENCE THAT THE KILLER
CLEANED UP AFTER THE MURDERS.
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POLICE SEARCHED
THE REST OF THE HOUSE.
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UPSTAIRS ON
THE THIRD FLOOR,
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THEY MADE ANOTHER
CHILLING DISCOVERY:
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A FIFTH BODY--
84-YEAR-OLD ALMA LIST.
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SHE HAD BEEN SHOT
IN THE HEAD.
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IN THE DEN,
POLICE FOUND TWO GUNS
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AND A LETTER ADDRESSED TO
THE PASTOR OF THE LOCAL CHURCH
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THE LIST FAMILY ATTENDED.
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Man, voice-over:
I KNOW THAT WHAT
HAS BEEN DONE IS WRONG.
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I'M SURE MANY WILL SAY,
HOW CAN ANYONE DO
SUCH A HORRIBLE THING...
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MOTHER IS IN THE HALLWAY
IN THE ATTIC.
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SHE WAS TOO HEAVY TO MOVE.
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Narrator: THE LETTER
WAS NOT ONLY A CONFESSION,
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BUT AN EXPLANATION.
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IT WAS SIGNED BY JOHN LIST.
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LIST HAD RECENTLY LOST
A LUCRATIVE BANKING JOB,
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WAS HAVING MONEY PROBLEMS,
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AND FEARED HIS FAMILY
WOULD HAVE TO GO ON WELFARE.
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AND HE HAD OTHER CONCERNS.
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AS A DEVOUT CHRISTIAN,
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LIST FEARED HIS FAMILY
WAS TURNING AWAY FROM
A CHRISTIAN LIFE
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AND WOULD EVENTUALLY
STOP GOING TO CHURCH.
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HE DISAPPROVED OF HIS DAUGHTER'S
GROWING INTEREST
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IN AN ACTING CAREER--
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A PROFESSION HE CONSIDERED
TO BE IMMORAL.
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IN THE MIND OF JOHN LIST,
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THERE WAS ONLY ONE PLACE
HE COULD SEND HIS FAMILY
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TO SAVE THEIR SOULS.
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Man, voice-over:
AT LEAST I'M CERTAIN
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THAT ALL HAVE GONE
TO HEAVEN NOW.
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Narrator: THE LETTER PROVIDED
SOME DETAILS OF THE MURDERS.
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JOHN!
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[GUNSHOT]
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Narrator: THAT IT TOOK LONGER
FOR HIS OLDEST SON JOHN TO DIE.
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[GUNSHOTS]
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Narrator:
HE WAS RIVETED WITH BULLETS
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UNTIL LIST WAS SATISFIED
THE CHILD WAS DEAD.
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Man, voice-over:
JOHN GOT HURT MORE
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BECAUSE HE SEEMED
TO STRUGGLE LONGER.
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Narrator:
JOHN LIST'S CONFESSION
ALSO DESCRIBED
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HIS LAST MOMENTS ALONE
WITH HIS FAMILY.
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Man, voice-over:
I SAID SOME PRAYERS
FOR THEM ALL FROM THE HYMNBOOK.
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THAT WAS THE LEAST
I COULD DO.
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Narrator: WHEN NEWS
OF THE MURDERS BROKE,
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NEIGHBORS TOLD POLICE THAT
THE MILD-MANNERED ACCOUNTANT
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WAS AN ODD, RECLUSIVE MAN
WITH VERY FEW FRIENDS.
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TWO DAYS AFTER
THE BODIES WERE DISCOVERED,
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POLICE FOUND
LIST'S ABANDONED CAR
IN A PARKING LOT
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AT JFK AIRPORT IN NEW YORK.
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THE DATE ON THE PARKING VOUCHER
WAS NOVEMBER 10,
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BUT THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE
LIST HAD TAKEN A FLIGHT.
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BUT POLICE KNEW
WHEREVER LIST WAS,
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HE HAD A ONE-MONTH
HEAD START.
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Narrator: THE MANHUNT
FOR A MASS MURDERER HAD BEGUN.
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POLICE ISSUED
A NATIONWIDE MURDER WARRANT
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FOR THE ARREST OF
JOHN EMIL LIST.
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HE WAS WANTED FOR
THE MURDER OF HIS ENTIRE FAMILY.
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Man: IT WAS
A HIGH-PRIORITY CASE.
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IT WAS SENT TO EVERY
FBI FIELD OFFICE,
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EVERY POST OFFICE,
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AND TO OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT
AGENCIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
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Narrator: A BALLISTICS
REPORT CONFIRMED
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THAT THE TWO GUNS
FOUND IN JOHN LIST'S DESK
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WERE THE WEAPONS USED
TO KILL HIS FAMILY.
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AUTOPSIES REVEALED THAT
THE VICTIMS HAD BEEN SHOT
IN THE HEAD.
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THE VICTIMS HAD BEEN DEAD
ABOUT A MONTH
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WHEN THEIR BODIES
WERE DISCOVERED.
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BUT WHERE WAS JOHN LIST?
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THERE HAD BEEN
TWO SCHOOLS OF THOUGHT.
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ONE WAS THAT
HE HAD COMMITTED SUICIDE
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AFTER COMMITTING
THE HOMICIDES.
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AND THE OTHER WAS THAT
HE WAS LIVING SOMEWHERE
OUT AROUND THE MIDWEST.
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ONCE IN AWHILE
YOU'D GET A SIGHTING--
A LIST SIGHTING.
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YOU'D GET A REPORT
THAT, UH, THEY SAW A GUY
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IN, YOU KNOW, ALABAMA
WHO LOOKED LIKE JOHN LIST--
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'CAUSE THE FBI KEPT,
YOU KNOW, INFORMATION.
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Narrator: JOHN EMIL LIST
WOULD ELUDE AUTHORITIES
FOR 18 FRUSTRATING YEARS
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DESPITE EFFORTS BY
INVESTIGATORS TO KEEP
THE MURDER CASE ALIVE
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THROUGH THE MEDIA.
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Man: WE WOULD CALL
THE NEWSPAPERS,
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AND WE WOULD INSIST
THAT THEY KEEP IT ALIVE
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ON THE FIFTH ANNIVERSARY
OR SIXTH ANNIVERSARY--
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THE 15th ANNIVERSARY.
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WE KEPT IT ALIVE.
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Narrator:
THEN DETECTIVES HAD AN IDEA.
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TV announcer: TONIGHT
ON<i> AMERICA'S MOST WANTED...</i>
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Narrator: THE TELEVISION SHOW
<i> AMERICA'S MOST WANTED</i>
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HAS LED TO THE CAPTURE
OF SOME OF THE FBI's
MOST CELEBRATED FUGITIVES
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BY GENERATING
PHONE TIPS FROM VIEWERS.
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ONE NIGHT WATCHING TV,
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WE WATCHED
<i> AMERICA'S MOST WANTED.</i>
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AND I THOUGHT THIS MIGHT BE
A VERY INTERESTING CASE
FOR THEM TO TAKE ON.
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IF WE WERE SUCCESSFUL
IN GETTING THE, UH,
THE LIST CASE AIRED,
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SOMEONE OUT THERE
WOULD RECOGNIZE HIM
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AND WOULD, UH,
MAKE THAT TELEPHONE CALL.
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Narrator:
DETECTIVES CONVINCED
<i> AMERICA'S MOST WANTED</i>
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TO DO AN EPISODE
ON THE JOHN LIST MURDERS
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DESPITE THE FACT THAT THE CASE
WAS ALMOST TWO DECADES OLD.
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I SAID, "THIS IS A GUY
I'D LIKE TO SEE CAUGHT,"
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AND WE DECIDED
TO DO JOHN LIST.
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Narrator:
BUT THERE WAS A PROBLEM.
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AT THE END OF EACH EPISODE,
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VIEWERS SEE A PHOTOGRAPH
OF THE WANTED PERSON,
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BUT THE MOST RECENT PHOTO
OF JOHN LIST
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HAD BEEN TAKEN
YEARS BEFORE THE MURDERS.
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WHAT WOULD HE LOOK LIKE
ALMOST 20 YEARS LATER?
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THE JOHN LIST MURDER CASE
WOULD NOW ENTER
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THE HIGHLY SPECIALIZED WORLD
OF FORENSIC SCULPTING.
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Walsh: I HAD BEEN INVOLVED
IN THE BATTLE
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FOR MISSING CHILDREN'S
RIGHTS FOR YEARS
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SINCE THE MURDER
OF MY SON IN 1981.
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AND I HAD COME ACROSS
FRANK BENDER OVER THE YEARS
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AS A RENOWNED
FORENSIC RECONSTRUCTION ARTIST.
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Narrator:
FORENSIC SCULPTOR FRANK BENDER
RECONSTRUCTS FACES
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TO HELP POLICE TRACK DOWN
AGING FUGITIVES
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OR IDENTIFY
DECOMPOSED BODIES--
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PART ART, PART SCIENCE,
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PART INTUITION.
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THIS IS THE SKULL OF
AN UNIDENTIFIED INDIVIDUAL
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POLICE FOUND IN A FIELD.
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TO MAKE AN IDENTIFICATION,
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THEY WOULD NEED
TO SEE HER FACE.
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I WORK WITH
PHYSICAL ANTHROPOLOGISTS,
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I WORK WITH ODONTOLOGISTS--
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FORENSIC DENTISTS,
IN OTHER WORDS--
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UH, PATHOLOGISTS,
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DETECTIVES...
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Narrator: WHEN GOING
FROM SKULL TO FACE,
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BENDER REFERS TO
SPECIAL CHARTS
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THAT MEASURE
FACIAL TISSUE THICKNESS
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BASED ON RACE,
AGE, AND GENDER.
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USING THESE MEASUREMENTS
AS GUIDELINES,
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BENDER CALCULATES
THE PROPER THICKNESS OF THE SKIN
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IN ORDER TO MOLD THE SHAPE
OF THE FACE WITH HIS CLAY.
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Bender: MORE IMPORTANT THAN
THE FACIAL TISSUE THICKNESS
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IS PAYING ATTENTION TO
THE FORMS IN THE SKULL--
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THE NUANCES, THE DIFFERENCES,
THE ASYMMETRY.
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WHAT MAKES THIS SKULL
DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHERS?
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AND THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT.
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Narrator: BENDER THEN MAKES
A FIBERGLASS BUST FROM THE MOLD.
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ON THE RIGHT,
BENDER'S FORENSIC BUST
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OF THE SKULL
FOUND IN THE FIELD.
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ON THE LEFT IS PHOTOGRAPH
OF A TEENAGE GIRL
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WHO HAD BEEN MISSING
AND WAS THEN IDENTIFIED
FROM FRANK BENDER'S BUST.
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BENDER'S EXTRAORDINARY TALENT
TO PUT FACES ON THE DEAD
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WOULD NOW BE APPLIED
TO THE LIVING--
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AN AGING MASS MURDERER.
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<i> AMERICA'S MOST WANTED</i>
ASKED FRANK BENDER
00:10:28
TO ADD 18 YEARS
TO THE FACE OF JOHN LIST.
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THE STAGE WAS NOW SET
TO PUMP NEW LIFE
INTO AN OLD MURDER CASE.
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Narrator:
THIS IS JOHN LIST IN 1971.
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FRANK BENDER'S JOB
WAS TO FIGURE OUT
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WHAT HE WOULD LOOK LIKE
18 YEARS LATER.
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ALL HE HAD TO WORK WITH
WAS SOME OLD PHOTOGRAPHS.
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COMPUTERS CAN AGE A FACE,
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BUT BENDER'S OLD-FASHIONED,
HANDS-ON TECHNIQUE
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GIVES THE FORENSIC BUST
A PERSONAL TOUCH.
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Bender: A LOT OF THESE
COMPUTERS NOWADAYS
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WILL JUST ADD,
LIKE, 5 WRINKLES
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BECAUSE THEY'RE
8 YEARS OLDER.
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WELL, SOMETIMES
YOU COULD ACTUALLY LOOK BETTER
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AFTER A FEW YEARS
IF YOU TOOK CARE OF YOURSELF.
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Narrator: TO LOOK AT JOHN LIST
THE INDIVIDUAL,
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BENDER NEEDED A PSYCHOLOGICAL
PROFILE OF THE KILLER.
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Bender: I GET INTO
THE HEAD OF THE PERSON.
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IN A SENSE,
I WANT TO BECOME THAT PERSON
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WHILE I'M WORKING
ON THE FUGITIVE.
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I WANT TO FEEL
LIKE THAT PERSON.
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I WANT TO KNOW EVERYTHING
ABOUT THAT PERSON.
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Narrator:
HE CALLED ON THE HELP
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OF FORENSIC PSYCHOLOGIST
RICHARD WALTER.
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TOGETHER, SCULPTOR
AND PSYCHOLOGIST
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WOULD PREDICT
HOW JOHN LIST WOULD AGE.
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BENDER AND WALTER PORED
OVER NEWSPAPER ARTICLES
AND PHOTOGRAPHS
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TO ANALYZE THE MAN
BEHIND THE MURDERS.
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THEY RESEARCHED
HIS STRICT UPBRINGING
BY GERMAN PARENTS.
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"THE LORD IS MY SHEPHERD.
I SHALL NOT WANT."
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Narrator: THE LUTHERAN CHURCH
HAD BEEN A FOCUS
00:11:57
OF YOUNG JOHN'S LIFE.
00:11:59
HE WAS AN ONLY CHILD
00:12:00
AND THE SON OF AN
OVERLY PROTECTIVE,
DOMINEERING MOTHER.
00:12:04
LIST HAD A MASTER'S DEGREE
IN ACCOUNTING
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BUT LACKED SOCIAL SKILLS AND
HAD A HISTORY OF LOSING JOBS.
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THE PSYCHOLOGICAL PROFILE
REVEALED A MAN
00:12:14
WHO KILLED OUT OF ANGER
AND RETALIATION
00:12:17
BECAUSE OF HIS OWN FAILURE.
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THE PERPETRATOR HAS
A HISTORY OF FRUSTRATION
00:12:23
AND FEELING ENTRAPPED
BY WOMEN--
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GENERALLY WOMEN
OF THEIR OWN AGE GROUP OR OLDER
00:12:30
OR WOMEN IN AUTHORITY.
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Narrator:
THE PSYCHOLOGICAL PROFILE
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HELPED REINFORCE BENDER'S VISION
OF THE AGING FUGITIVE.
00:12:39
Bender: I HAD HIS MOUTH
GOING DOWN ON THE CORNERS
00:12:41
BECAUSE OF ANXIETY THAT I FELT
HE CARRIED WITH HIM
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FROM COMMITTING
THESE CRIMES.
00:12:47
AND RICHARD BROUGHT OUT
THAT IT WASN'T GUILT
FROM KILLING HIS FAMILY,
00:12:54
BUT THE ANXIETY OF
THE FEAR OF BEING CAUGHT.
00:12:56
Narrator: BENDER ALSO
TOOK INTO ACCOUNT GENETICS.
00:12:59
HE LOOKED AT PHOTOGRAPHS
OF JOHN LIST'S PARENTS
00:13:02
AND ADDED SAGGING JOWLS
AND A RECEDING HAIRLINE
TO THE BUST.
00:13:07
LIST HAD A SURGICAL SCAR
BEHIND HIS RIGHT EAR,
00:13:10
AND BENDER RESEARCHED
HOW THE SCAR WOULD LOOK
AS HE AGED.
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WITH THE FIBERGLASS BUST
COMPLETE,
00:13:19
BENDER PAINTED
THE SKIN AND HAIR
00:13:22
AND PUT LIST
IN A SUIT AND TIE--
00:13:24
WHAT HE AND WALTER
THOUGHT LIST WOULD WEAR
MOST OF THE TIME.
00:13:29
BUT THE BUST
WASN'T COMPLETE.
00:13:31
THE FINAL TOUCH
WOULD BE A PAIR OF GLASSES.
00:13:34
WALTER WAS CERTAIN
LIST WASN'T VAIN ENOUGH
TO WEAR CONTACT LENSES,
00:13:39
AND BENDER PREDICTED
LIST WOULD BE WEARING
A DIFFERENT STYLE OF GLASSES
00:13:45
THAN THOSE HE WORE
AT AGE 46.
00:13:48
BENDER WAS CONVINCED
LIST WOULD WANT
00:13:51
TO HIDE THE FACT
THAT HE WAS A FAILURE
00:13:53
BY WEARING GLASSES
WITH DARK, THICK FRAMES.
00:13:57
Bender:
TO LOOK MORE INTELLIGENT--
00:13:58
MORE IMPORTANT
THAN HE REALLY WAS.
00:14:00
AND THIS WAS THROUGH THE HELP
OF RICHARD WALTER'S PROFILE.
00:14:02
Narrator: BENDER LOOKED
THROUGH DOZENS OF PAIRS
OF USED GLASSES
00:14:07
AND FOUND THE PERFECT PAIR
TO USE ON THE BUST.
00:14:10
THE PAINTED FACE
WITH THE DOWNTURNED MOUTH,
00:14:14
SAGGING JOWLS,
RECEDING HAIRLINE,
00:14:17
AND AGING SCAR,
00:14:18
NOW LOOKED OUT FROM BEHIND
DARK, THICK FRAMES.
00:14:23
THE FORENSIC BUST
WAS COMPLETE.
00:14:24
TV announcer: TONIGHT
ON<i> AMERICA'S MOST WANTED...</i>
00:14:29
NOW TONIGHT'S FIRST CASE,
00:14:31
THE OLDEST WE'VE EVER PURSUED
ON<i> AMERICA'S MOST WANTED.</i>
00:14:34
Narrator: ON SUNDAY NIGHT,
MAY 21, 1989,
00:14:39
<i> AMERICA'S MOST WANTED</i>
AIRED THE EPISODE
ON THE LIST MURDERS.
00:14:46
IN DENVER, COLORADO,
00:14:47
A FAMILY RECOGNIZED THE FACE
OF A MASS MURDERER.
00:14:56
Walsh: IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING
ABOUT JOHN LIST...
00:14:58
Narrator: THE NIGHT
<i> AMERICA'S MOST WANTED</i>
00:15:00
REVEALED THE FORENSIC BUST
OF JOHN LIST,
00:15:04
WANDA FLANERY AND HER DAUGHTER
WERE WATCHING
00:15:06
FROM THEIR HOME
IN DENVER, COLORADO.
00:15:09
MUCH TO THEIR HORROR,
00:15:11
THEY SAW A STRIKING
RESEMBLANCE BETWEEN JOHN LIST
00:15:15
AND A FORMER NEIGHBOR.
00:15:16
AND IT JUST ALL STARTED
ADDING UP GRADUALLY--
00:15:21
THAT HE WAS AN ACCOUNTANT
AND A LUTHERAN;
00:15:23
THAT HE HAD--HE HAD
A SCAR BEHIND HIS EAR.
00:15:27
AND HE WAS
WELL PUT TOGETHER...
00:15:30
A CLASSY DRESSER.
00:15:32
AND BY THE TIME THEY GOT TO
THE SCULPTURE,
00:15:36
I WAS CONVINCED IT WAS HIM.
00:15:38
TO LOOK AT IT,
YOU WOULD HAVE KNOWN.
00:15:43
AND THE CLINCHER FOR ME
WAS THE GLASSES
00:15:47
AND THE JOWLS.
00:15:48
WE SAID, "OH, MY GOD.
00:15:50
THAT'S BOB--BOB CLARK."
00:15:53
"BOB IS JOHN LIST.
00:15:56
WE'VE GOT TO--
WE'VE GOT TO CALL."
00:15:59
Narrator: WANDA FLANERY
TOLD THE FBI
00:16:02
THAT HER FORMER NEIGHBOR
00:16:03
RECENTLY MOVED TO
RICHMOND, VIRGINIA
00:16:05
AND WAS USING THE NAME
BOB CLARK.
00:16:08
THE FBI CLOSED IN,
00:16:10
AND AGENTS ARRESTED
ROBERT PETER CLARK
00:16:13
AT THE ACCOUNTING OFFICE
WHERE HE WORKED IN RICHMOND.
00:16:16
I APPROACHED HIM
AND I ASKED HIM--
00:16:18
I SAID, "ARE YOU MR. CLARK?"
00:16:21
AND HE SAID, "YES.
00:16:22
AND THEN I SAID,
"ARE YOU JOHN LIST?"
00:16:25
AND HE SAYS, "NO,
I'M ROBERT PETER CLARK."
00:16:27
Narrator: BUT BOB CLARK
HAD A SCAR BEHIND HIS RIGHT EAR,
00:16:31
AND A FINGERPRINT CHECK
MATCHED PRINTS ON
A GUN PERMIT APPLICATION
00:16:35
JOHN LIST HAD FILLED OUT
ONE MONTH BEFORE THE MURDERS.
00:16:40
BOB CLARK AND JOHN LIST
WERE THE SAME MAN.
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I SAID, "THEY GOT HIM."
00:16:47
AND THAT WAS IT.
THEY GOT HIM.
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Narrator:
AMAZINGLY, JOHN LIST WORE
THE SAME STYLE GLASSES
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THAT FRANK BENDER HAD USED
ON THE FORENSIC BUST.
00:16:57
Walsh: FRANK BENDER
WAS 100% RIGHT.
00:17:01
THE PICTURE OF JOHN LIST
WHEN HE WAS CAPTURED
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WAS PUT NEXT TO
THE PICTURE OF THAT BUST
00:17:07
ON THE FRONT PAGE
OF<i> THE NEW YORK TIMES.</i>
00:17:10
JOHN LIST HAD
THE SAME EXACT GLASSES ON
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THAT FRANK BENDER HAD PUT
ON THE FORENSIC BUST.
00:17:17
IT WAS UNCANNY.
00:17:18
IT WAS ALMOST AS THOUGH
THE PERSON WHO DID THE BUST
00:17:20
HAD ACTUALLY BEEN LOOKING AT
JOHN LIST WHEN HE DID IT.
00:17:23
Narrator: AT JOHN LIST'S TRIAL,
THE STORY UNFOLDED
00:17:27
OF HOW THE MILD-MANNERED,
CHURCHGOING ACCOUNTANT
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METICULOUSLY PLANNED
THE BRUTAL EXECUTION
OF HIS ENTIRE FAMILY.
00:17:37
LIST HAD LOST HIS JOB.
00:17:39
BUCKLING UNDER THE STRAIN
OF MOUNTING BILLS
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AND THE PERCEIVED
MORAL DECAY OF HIS FAMILY,
00:17:46
JOHN LIST MADE A DECISION.
00:17:48
HE DECIDED
HE WANTED TO DO THIS.
00:17:49
THIS WAS THE ONLY WAY OUT.
00:17:50
THIS WAS THE WAY
FOR HIM TO START
WITH A CLEAN SLATE.
00:17:52
AND THAT'S WHY HE DID IT.
00:17:54
Narrator: AFTER THE CHILDREN
LEFT FOR SCHOOL,
00:17:57
JOHN LIST PUT HIS PLAN
IN MOTION.
00:18:03
[GUNSHOT]
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HE SHOT HIS WIFE IN THE HEAD
AT POINT BLANK RANGE.
00:18:09
HE THEN CLIMBED
TWO FLIGHTS OF STAIRS
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AND ENTERED
HIS MOTHER'S APARTMENT.
00:18:15
JOHN!
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[GUNSHOT]
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Narrator: HE LEFT
HIS MOTHER'S BODY UPSTAIRS,
00:18:23
BUT PLACED HIS WIFE'S BODY
ON A SLEEPING BAG
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AND DRAGGED IT
TO THE BALLROOM.
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HE THEN CLEANED UP
THE BLOOD.
00:18:37
LATER THAT AFTERNOON,
00:18:38
AS THE CHILDREN ARRIVED HOME,
HE MURDERED EACH ONE.
00:18:44
[GUNSHOT]
00:18:49
[GUNSHOT]
00:18:55
THE OLDEST BOY, JOHN,
PUT UP A STRUGGLE,
00:18:59
AND LIST FIRED 10 TIMES.
00:19:07
HE DRAGGED THE CHILDREN'S BODIES
TO THE BALLROOM,
00:19:10
LINED THEM UP ON SLEEPING BAGS
NEXT TO THEIR MOTHER,
00:19:14
AND CLEANED UP MORE BLOOD.
00:19:18
THE LIST FAMILY MORGUE
WAS NOW COMPLETE.
00:19:25
WITH THE EXECUTIONS OVER,
00:19:28
LIST SAID A PRAYER,
00:19:30
THEN WROTE THE LETTER
TO HIS PASTOR
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CONFESSING TO THE MURDERS.
00:19:34
HE LOWERED THE THERMOSTAT TO
SLOW THE BODIES' DECOMPOSITION,
00:19:38
TURNED ON THE RADIO
TO A CLASSICAL MUSIC STATION,
00:19:43
AND BEGAN HIS LIFE
AS A FUGITIVE.
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BEFORE THE BODIES
WERE EVEN DISCOVERED,
00:19:49
LIST MADE HIS WAY
TO DENVER,
00:19:51
APPLIED FOR A NEW
SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER
AS ROBERT PETER CLARK.
00:19:56
IN TIME HE MADE FRIENDS
WITH HIS NEIGHBOR WANDA FLANERY,
00:20:01
REJOINED THE LUTHERAN CHURCH,
00:20:03
AND MARRIED WANDA'S FRIEND
DELORES MILLER.
00:20:07
HIS NEW WIFE
NEVER SUSPECTED A THING.
00:20:09
LIST TOLD HER HIS FIRST WIFE
HAD DIED OF CANCER
00:20:13
AND THAT HE HAD
NO CHILDREN.
00:20:15
I DO NOT BELIEVE IT.
00:20:16
I-I LOVE MY HUSBAND
VERY DEEPLY.
00:20:19
I DO NOT BELIEVE
THIS IS THE SAME MAN.
00:20:21
Narrator: THE COUPLE
EVENTUALLY MOVED BACK EAST
00:20:24
TO THE RICHMOND,
VIRGINIA AREA,
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WHERE LIST FOUND
AN ACCOUNTING JOB.
00:20:29
RICHARD WALTER'S
PSYCHOLOGICAL PROFILE
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ACCURATELY PREDICTED
ALMOST EVERY ASPECT
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OF JOHN LIST'S
FLIGHT FROM JUSTICE.
00:20:37
WHAT WAS HE DOING
WHEN THEY CAUGHT HIM?
00:20:39
HE WAS A C.P.A.
00:20:40
HE WAS STILL A VOLUNTEER
IN A LUTHERAN CHURCH.
00:20:42
A GUY THAT KILLS
HIS OWN MOTHER,
00:20:44
HE KILLS HIS OWN WIFE
AND HIS 3 KIDS,
00:20:45
IS STILL VOLUNTEERING
IN THE LUTHERAN CHURCH?
00:20:47
HE WAS STILL
THE SAME CREATURE THAT HE WAS
00:20:50
WHEN HE KILLED THOSE PEOPLE
18 YEARS BEFORE.
00:20:52
Narrator: NEARLY 20 YEARS
AFTER THE BRUTAL MURDER
OF HIS ENTIRE FAMILY,
00:20:57
A JURY FOUND JOHN LIST
GUILTY OF 5 COUNTS
OF FIRST-DEGREE MURDER
00:21:05
AND SENTENCED HIM
TO LIFE IN PRISON.
00:21:07
Man: JOHN EMIL LIST
WILL BE ETERNALLY SYNONYMOUS
00:21:11
WITH CONCEPTS OF SELFISHNESS,
HORROR, AND EVIL.
00:21:15
HE'S A MAN WHO COULD
COLDLY, CALCULATINGLY,
00:21:17
AND CUNNINGLY CONCEIVE
AND CARRY OUT
00:21:19
A COWARDLY PLAN TO ASSASSINATE
EACH OF HIS 3 CHILDREN.
00:21:24
I WAS JUST THRILLED...
00:21:25
THAT THE MERGER, THEN,
BETWEEN PSYCHOLOGY
AND SCULPTURE WORKED.
00:21:33
IT WAS AN INVALUABLE TOOL
IN MAKING A DETERMINATION
00:21:36
OF HOW THE GUY
WOULD PROBABLY LOOK.
00:21:39
AND IT WAS--
IT WAS JUST UNCANNY
00:21:42
AS TO HOW CLOSE THE SCULPTURE
WAS TO THE ACTUAL MAN.
00:21:46
I REALLY PAID ATTENTION TO,
00:21:49
I THINK, AS MUCH INFORMATION
AS I HAD ABOUT JOHN LIST
00:21:52
AND WHAT HE WAS ALL--
WHAT HE WAS ABOUT.
00:21:55
I TRULY BELIEVE
THAT IF IT WASN'T
FOR FRANK BENDER,
00:21:58
JOHN LIST
WOULD STILL BE AT LARGE.
00:22:00
BUT FINALLY,
WE BROUGHT JOHN LIST TO JUSTICE.
