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David Seymour isn't BACKING DOWN about the Treaty Principles Bill.

August 18, 202500:59
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I believe that in time the treaty
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principles bill or something very much
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like it will succeed.
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>> The haka tip party moldi hana rips up
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the um treaties principal bill and then
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they perform a haka in front of you.
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What what's that like from your
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perspective? It's saddening because I
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look at the society we live in and after
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about 300,000 years of humans running
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around bopping each other over the head,
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keeping each other as slaves, practicing
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cannibalism, and just generally being
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savages, we have arrived at a time in
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our history where to be respected, you
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have to make your arguments using ideas
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and logic and facts. And people have the
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ability to choose which ones they
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believe and how they think. Now all of a
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sudden we say, "Okay, if you don't like
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something, then you just get up and and
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dance around and yell and poke your
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tongue out and in their case um make
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shooting gestures uh of a gun that
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people if you don't like their ideas,
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instead of debating them with better
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ideas, maybe you should kill them."
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Well, that makes me sad.

Podspun Insights

In this thought-provoking episode, the conversation takes a deep dive into the complexities of societal change and the power of expression. The host reflects on a recent event where a political party dramatically tore up a treaty principles bill and performed a haka, igniting a passionate discussion about respect, logic, and the evolution of human discourse. With a mix of sadness and frustration, the host grapples with the idea that instead of engaging in constructive debate, some choose to express dissent through performance and aggression. This episode challenges listeners to consider the implications of such actions in a world where ideas should reign supreme.

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Episode Highlights

  • The Evolution of Argument
    After centuries of conflict, we now argue with ideas and logic instead of violence.
    “Now all of a sudden we say, "Okay, if you don’t like something..."”
    @ 00m 38s
    August 18, 2025

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Key Moments

  • Cultural Performance00:09
  • Historical Reflection00:18
  • Societal Critique00:57