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Stefan ozich welcome to my podcast yeah
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it's good to be here Dom so first of all
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um who is stepan
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ozich um well I suppose [ __ ] if You' ask
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me that 10 years ago it would be a
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different answer asked me five years ago
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it be a different answer asked me that
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two years ago it would be a different
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answer so yeah kind of just that
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continual
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progression I guess Stefan I'm a well I
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guess I could say I'm an athlete um
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that's something that I've become
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obsessed with not only athleticism but
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just pushing pushing the body physically
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mentally and spiritually that's kind of
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become a lifetime Pursuit as I kind of
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became acquainted with um endurance as a
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as a Endeavor what four years ago
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so in in in in a synthesized form and
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that would be that and I would say also
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that um focused on service being service
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oriented that's a huge huge component of
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my life and something that I truly
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believe makes a life worth living and
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that that came along with my um training
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about four years ago also so yeah that
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would be good question to start with
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there yeah what's what's a it's funny
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it's should be the easiest question to
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ask a person but I don't know as new
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zealanders I think in particular we're
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kind of shy and awkward it's it's hard
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to answer that I think a lot of people
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would answer that by just saying what
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they do for a job I guess which is like
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it's not actually who you are as a
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person is it absolutely absolutely
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something you said there in that answer
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that I wanted to um uh pick up on I
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actually saw a quote from you it said my
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athletic Endeavors began out of out of
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necessity a bigger part of me knew I
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needed to change my bad deplorable
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habits now most people would say bad
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habits but you you added an extra word
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deplorable what were these bad
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deplorable habits um well you know I
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think
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we can all relate to like in New Zealand
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especially we got that um that culture
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of just going out and you know bad
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habits of drinking and um you know
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hidden hidden istic
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Tendencies pornography girls drugs
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staying up late every night lying
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showing up to work late excuses just the
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whole lony of of just just things that I
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knew that I was just missing the Mark um
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and I was also a heavy weed smoker um
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which was probably my worst habit I had
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and I realized very quickly this would
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have been about two years ago but I had
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to stop this and that that was the
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biggest habit that I had to give up and
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I knew that it wasn't going to bring me
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closer to where I knew I wanted to go
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and where I was aiming for in my life so
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I had to let that go alongside those
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other habits I just mentioned yeah and
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you've gone like completely the other
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way so you 've gone from um chasing
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cheap dopamine which is something that's
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easy that we all do all those things you
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mentioned you know drugs alcohol
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pornography uh whatever else um to
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chasing the most expensive dopamine
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imaginable with um the most extreme
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event but this is really cool so we
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we'll get into this then we'll get into
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your why yeah because I think
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um yeah I think if if the why something
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I've learned from doing this podcast and
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speaking to like all sorts of um
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fascinating people who've done amazing
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things um with anything if the why is
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strong enough the how sort of figures
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itself out yeah yeah so so you're you're
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embarking on this adventure to run the
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length of New Zealand uh twice on the ti
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how do you say Tor Trail Tor Trail yeah
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okay so you're going to go from um cap
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ranga to Bluff and then back up again
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back up again yeah 6,000 K all up yeah
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and you're no one's no one's ever done
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it before so just completing it a world
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record yeah which I find interesting cuz
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people could definitely do like I'm
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definitely not some like high stock I'm
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not coming from a rare breed rare oak
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it's something just someone no one's
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done I don't know why but I guess people
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are like why why would I run it twice
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that's probably their logic once is
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enough but yeah I found that was a good
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reason to do it cuz no one had done it
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brings more hype more for the um
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Foundation ultimately and and you hoping
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to do it in about a 100 days yeah that's
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kind of my target but honestly like the
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the first leg I would like to get the
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fkt which is uh just under 49 days
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George what does fkt stand for fastest
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SN in time oh so George Henderson he's
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the one that holds the current record
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absolutely good Stell bloke he helped me
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with everything in in regards to
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logistics for us just giving me
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information he holds the current one of
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of about 49 days so I'd like to get that
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and on the way back whatever's time's
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left is what time is left and I've given
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me that Target because it's already such
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an audacious task and go as it is I may
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as well just have that um kind of you
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know that that stick that that carrot to
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aim for yeah I'm not too I'm not too
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fuss but I definitely don't want to be
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going much longer you know if we had 105
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hey but if we start going
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longer I kind of don't want it to get to
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that point but it's just a good Target
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yeah yeah but if you shoot for like 100
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days that's an average of about 60k a
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day correct exactly which like a
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marathon and a half which is and and on
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Trails as well not on
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road it's it's it's a Nutty a by by most
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normal normal people's standards yeah
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hey it's crazy yeah yeah it's it's funny
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because I look back to where I was four
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years ago to now and it's like it's just
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become this normal normal sea now when I
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when I hang around a lot of my Runner
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friends out in um Riverhead that they
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took me in cuz I started late I only
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really been running Ultras for two years
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and they they took me in really nice
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people and all of them run 5050 60k in
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the weekend like it's nothing it's just
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become this normal thing now like I look
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at it as if it's like my friend that
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runs a 10K it's got to that point so
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when you say that I agree but then
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there's this part of me that I don't see
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it as that which is I guess that's
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probably a good thing because I'm going
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in to this with that sort of naivity and
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that that sort of um without seeing the
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audacity of the goal I'm kind of seeing
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it as oh yeah it's kind of giving me a
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bit of uh a bit of Peace in a way you
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know I'm not too stressed about it
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somewhat doing doing things like this
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this um this podcast like prior to even
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beginning does that um add an extra
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layer of um fear or nerves n nerves 100%
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nerves fear yeah I suppose there is fear
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for sure but it's the nerves and the
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excitement the other two core emotions
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I'm feeling right now yeah just just
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like soaking it up it's kind of like in
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the previous events I've done in the
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past I have a similar emotion of like
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just that adrenaline but just Keen to
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get out there Keen for the gun to to go
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off yeah well I I I suppose like once it
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starts all you have to do is focus on
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literally putting one foot in front of
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the other but um before you start it's
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the training the preparation um all the
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logistics and we'll get into all that
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that sounds like an absolute nightmare
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yeah oh it's yeah as I was saying to you
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before it's almost a full-time job yeah
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yeah yeah so what's your CV when it
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comes to endurance like anyone listening
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to this um why should they assume that
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you are going to do this yeah good
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question uh well I've done I've done
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several marathons I've done several 100
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plus k um Ultra marathons and I've done
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200 mile races um I've done an Iron Man
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did that beginning of this year done a
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couple half Iron Man's but to begin it
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all which we might get into I actually
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began um this journey when I walked the
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Camino Santiago which is a pilgrimage in
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the north of Spain was about 1,000
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kilometers I did that in 28 days this is
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when I was UN untrained way heavier way
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unathletic and average nearly 36 K a day
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over 28 days so I kind of had that
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backbone somewhat and that was kind of
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my springboard into this um and yeah I
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guess that's really my resume from a
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physical standpoint but I think the the
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the key here is it's the mental
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component it's the waking up every day
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at 5:00 a.m. 5:30 a.m. it's the going to
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train the matter the weather it's the
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doing things every single day day and
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day out despite the feeling of whether
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you want to do it or not um it's the
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discipline with eating with diet with
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stretching those are the things I think
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that people any one person could go for
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something like big and extreme if you do
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the little things and I think that's
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where people um can really like forget
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that it's the compounding it's the
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building of the little things that over
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time over six months a year you've like
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built this whole new person because
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you've been doing those little things
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and I think the things behind closed
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doors you know not the stra segments you
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God it's it's it's the things that you
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do behind closed doors when no one's
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looking you know they're not the ones
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that are seeing you waking up in the
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morning and turning up at the track
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where it's pitch black and you need a
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freaking head torch to see you know so I
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think those are the things that's where
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I'm I'm leveraging off of from a resume
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standpoint yeah I think think what
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you're talking about is like the um the
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picture of the iceberg eh there's the
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the bed out of the water and then
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there's everything underneath which
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which no one sees which you can apply to
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like most sort of um high level things
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um exactly [ __ ] you're an you're an
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intense dude hey I I I get the feeling
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already 10 minutes and you're a guy
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that's got like a very addictive
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personality so I can see why you would
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have been very good at smoking weed like
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so you've you negative things you you
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know you go into it boots and all but
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the same as positive things which is
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what you're doing now would that be fair
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yeah that's interesting no people have I
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don't know if people have ever said it
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like that so it's funny yeah I think I
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am quite intense and I think I've kind
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of owned that in life you know people
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would say ADHD but I don't know um once
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I'm on something I'm like I'm in I'm all
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you could ask my close friends and they
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can probably agree um
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yeah I mean well you go to any sort of
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like ultra marathon event and there's
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there's there's a lot of twist of people
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there and you go you've got demons
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you've
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got Point we've all got that and I think
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and I think I think normalizing that and
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also not only normalizing it but showing
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that everyone like [ __ ] man if if we
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could get into everyone's heads would be
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like holy [ __ ] like you're messed up as
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me that's kind of cool I think people
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need a real realiz that we're all
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actually very similar in the way we
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think but obviously people manifest it
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and project it and show it very
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differently because you've obviously got
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the different um character types you've
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got you know the introverts and
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extroverts and they will display that
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differently but I think internally
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there's a lot of things that are going
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on that are very similar and I think
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that's kind of cool to kind of bring
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that to light which is why me doing this
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as well that's going to be a big part of
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that I'll be sharing a lot of that um
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the demons in the dark days that I'll be
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inevitably um encountering like to show
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that yeah man this is very much part of
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the the process you know yeah and um
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yeah it's The Human Experience too you
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know there is um you like like shame and
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I guess guilt associated with um like
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demons but it's like they there within
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all of us yeah so you you're um you're
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hoping to raise $1 million for a charity
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called the last last chance project
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um Gees we're in a cost of living crisis
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a million dollars is a lofty Target yeah
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but I I I still think power to you like
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if you get 10% of that it's still
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100,000 which is amazing so if you fall
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short there's absolutely no shame in
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that but what is the last chance project
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great um yeah they're basically uh men's
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mental health Foundation um they're a
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trust that were established in
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2022 and the reason a big part that I
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got um drawn into them is one of the
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chair uh man on the chair uh Sam he's a
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good friend of mine um and he knew my
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brother Jerome and he was went to the
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old school same school as us and he's
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the one that introduced me to the whole
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um foundation and what their kind of you
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know their their MOS um and a big part
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of it was about just really bringing up
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and um pushing forward the men that were
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in you know fragile situations but not
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only that creating really robust forms
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of um change and how we can actually
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change ourselves inside out and how we
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can as an individual you can begin that
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process to then contribute and add to
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the people around you so there I've got
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some core pillars which is uh I'm still
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kind of memorizing in but I believe it's
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change um
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connect um and oh what was the third one
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um I forget what the third one is but
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basically they're coming from the idea
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that if you want to you first have to
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connect with the individual and their
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whole thing is about brotherly
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connection and about connecting to the C
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to where they're struggling and then
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from there when you can when you can
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connect you're more likely to want to
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change cuz you know the adage you can
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lead a horse to the water but you can't
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get it to drink you know so their whole
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thing is about guiding them to that
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water tra and teaching them how to drink
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the water and then carrying on and
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telling their peers and friends around
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them as to how to actually drink this
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water because we're in a situation now
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where as we know with mental health that
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men were at the we're at the peak of it
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you know with with with even just taking
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our own lives you know it's it's very
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common for men to do so and with Last
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Chance project V trying to change that
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conversation but bring men to the
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Limelight to say that okay it's okay to
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be a man it's okay to be uh aggressive
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and it's okay to be disciplined and it's
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okay to have these goals and Ambitions
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um because it's very characteristic of
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men to have those qualities but we're in
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a society now where that's almost not
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allowed and I think that's a big problem
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because we need to be fundamentally who
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we are and LCP is at the really trying
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to aim and push that idea of male
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empowerment but in a healthy way you
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know it's being hijacked with media with
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Society the societal norms and with um
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you know Hollywood and through music and
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all this all this culture that's quite
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toxic uh but we're bringing them
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bringing forth and LCP are bringing
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forth the idea that you know we we we
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are able to do more and men men are able
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to do more and men are strong um and
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yeah as a as a foundation that's kind of
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the a big a big part of whereever
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they're wanting to go towards and
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they're looking at it holistically too
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which I think is a real big difference
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that a lot of um you know not naming
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names but there's foundations out there
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that are that are talking about it which
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is amazing and I think that's a great
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step but how can you initiate and bring
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in Practical um approaches you know for
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example like how how are people eating
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how are they drinking how are they
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sleeping what's their relationships like
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what kind of work and Korea are they and
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what's their relationship like with
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their wives and with their um their
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spouses and with their children all
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those behind kind of you know that
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Iceberg analogy it's all what's
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underneath the ice and that's what LCP
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are focused on really getting to the
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core as to what's under the ice where
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are the things that are faulty and how
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can we better improve that and you know
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make a change for these men yeah and you
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haven't even started this um Adventure
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yet and you've already raised like how
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much like 50k yeah yeah 50 5% of the
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money it's bloody amazing yeah it is it
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is amazing even even if not a not
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another scent gets donated it's still an
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impressive donation it's really cool
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yeah it is it is and I think that's
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what's amazing like kind of being a bit
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um you know I guess again that naive a
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like [ __ ] cost living crisis you made
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the point you're very right but imagine
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if just a fifth of New Zealand's
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population just gave
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$5 like the thought of that it's like
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damn so it's like okay that's kind of
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another reason why wanted to do two
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lengths one length people might pay
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attention but two people would be like
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oh okay may as well shoot so far for the
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moon because it's an extreme thing I'm
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doing inherently why not have the target
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be Extreme as well because either way as
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you said if even if we get a tenth of it
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20th of it that St a big amount of money
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for that Foundation to then start
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helping these men so yeah that was my L
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it's a bit reductionist and simplified
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way of thinking but I figured why not
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you know no it's it's it's great but how
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how will you feel yourself if you fall
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way short of that of thatty Target
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um is what it is I mean end of the day
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wherever we get to um we'll be
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definitely further away from where they
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are now you know so wherever it ends up
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that's going to be that much more
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exposure and awareness for this
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Foundation than it was at the start so
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that's a win in my books and I don't
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want to be too attached to that outcome
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too cuz then very quickly I'll become
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too attached to that outcome and if I
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don't meet that then I'll feel like a
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failure and I think that in itself will
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become its own kidle of fish that won't
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serve me or even serving the men and the
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people in the foundation because it's
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not about that really we want to just
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get the message out there as much as we
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can and get as much resources for these
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men as as possible so yeah I I love that
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that yeah that's a good answer CU you
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got to yeah control the controllables
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don't you yeah absolutely which in my
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case is running running it's out of your
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out of your hands okay let's get to the
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white um see you mentioned um your
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brother Jerome um a couple of minutes
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ago so um yeah you want to talk about
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this you want to take us back to May 5
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last year yeah yeah oh man it's like
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yeah like is he your older older brother
00:17:47
slightly older brother two years older
00:17:49
so I got a family of six siblings and he
00:17:52
he was a second I'm the youngest and he
00:17:53
was the second youngest um so we were
00:17:56
tight we're extremely tight him and I um
00:17:59
but yeah on on May 5th um I get a
00:18:02
freaking knock on well my brother
00:18:05
smashed on my door didn't even hear it
00:18:08
slip through it and then my brother came
00:18:10
around later on came around to the door
00:18:12
and said like yo Steph step and I was
00:18:15
like what the what the heck and then
00:18:17
open the door and he just said he's gone
00:18:19
so my brother yeah Jerome he he took his
00:18:21
life and
00:18:23
um [ __ ] man like I can't even
00:18:27
explain just that pain you know like you
00:18:30
know he was just such a such a beautiful
00:18:33
man and someone like that um for those
00:18:37
watching if if if you knew Jerome you
00:18:39
know you could agree he just like he was
00:18:43
just a rare human being um and yeah as
00:18:47
last chance project they they the
00:18:50
language they use as he took his last
00:18:52
chance and I think that's a real
00:18:56
um it's I think it's a real
00:19:00
gentle but also very direct way of
00:19:02
saying that yeah that's that's what what
00:19:04
what he did and um yeah it was
00:19:07
yeah man that that that moment
00:19:11
um yeah it's intense like it's still to
00:19:14
this day it feels like it's like just
00:19:15
this blur and I was writing in my diary
00:19:19
the other day uh that you know with this
00:19:21
Mission I'm doing nothing comes close to
00:19:23
the pain that my family and I
00:19:26
experienced on that night having to get
00:19:28
that that call from the cops or receive
00:19:31
that information you know about about
00:19:33
our brother when we had to go identify
00:19:35
him and it's just like what the [ __ ] you
00:19:38
know so so so yeah and I think the thing
00:19:41
about it as well is um we were all
00:19:43
acutely aware our family we very tight
00:19:46
family we're very vocal we're very
00:19:49
intense as as you said um we're very
00:19:52
direct and we speak yeah we don't we
00:19:54
don't beat around the bush when it comes
00:19:56
to things and we're all
00:19:59
you know we all bound together to um
00:20:02
help drum because he was very vocal
00:20:03
about what he was going through and we
00:20:05
were trying to get all the support and
00:20:08
so yeah it was in that process of seeing
00:20:10
my brother suffer but also seeing um
00:20:13
from a support standpoint what was
00:20:15
available and and what wasn't available
00:20:17
and it was just it just opened my eyes
00:20:20
because you know when you're not in it
00:20:21
you've got no idea right um and because
00:20:23
we were involved in it and had to go
00:20:25
through that process we um yeah we very
00:20:28
Qui realized like holy [ __ ] there's like
00:20:31
like for what is available there's so
00:20:33
many wait times and not only that the
00:20:36
approaches they take and you know you
00:20:37
can't the thing is with about I can't
00:20:39
put the blame on that on that system
00:20:42
because they they theyve got the
00:20:44
resources that they've got right and
00:20:45
I've got the information that they've
00:20:47
got so there's this very it's a very
00:20:50
deep deep issue um but that was the big
00:20:53
part of it and that's yeah this is why
00:20:55
I'm here where I am now and doing this
00:20:58
thing and but the the other intense
00:21:01
thing just a year prior I lost another
00:21:05
like he was literally like I got a tight
00:21:07
group of friends and he was in that
00:21:09
tight group same same
00:21:11
circumstance um but for him I had no
00:21:14
idea none of us had any idea that was
00:21:17
what was that was what was intense we
00:21:19
had no clue you know that's the complex
00:21:22
thing about mental health isn't it it
00:21:24
seems like your mate's more um what we
00:21:26
associate with male suicide you know
00:21:28
that's why these slogans that it's not
00:21:30
weak to speak and it's okay to ask for
00:21:32
help it's to try and um target people
00:21:34
like that but then there's people like
00:21:35
your brother Jerome who um from what
00:21:38
I've from what you've suggested had no
00:21:40
problem um you know sharing his
00:21:42
vulnerabilities and his struggles and
00:21:44
still that wasn't enough no and the
00:21:46
thing with Jerome he's he was such an
00:21:49
acutely aware emotionally High iqed
00:21:52
individual like he he he was the kind of
00:21:56
guy that like in any room if was a
00:21:59
discussion and then everyone agreed he
00:22:01
would be like well he wouldn't appease
00:22:05
the crowd you know appease the group of
00:22:06
people he'd be like well no he would be
00:22:09
like no like that's this that this that
00:22:12
he would have such a direct Gentle Way
00:22:16
of affirming his stance in anyone's
00:22:19
situation and I think that was one of
00:22:21
his real gifts and real talents he
00:22:23
wouldn't shy away from that and then
00:22:25
despite that sort of
00:22:29
emotional you know um intelligence and
00:22:32
still it got you know it got him now how
00:22:36
long had he been in well for really it
00:22:38
was the start of last year where it
00:22:40
started to kind of yeah show up before
00:22:43
that we were kind of aw you know like
00:22:45
not really but he he was pretty like
00:22:47
saying how we felt but it was nothing it
00:22:49
was nothing that we thought kind of like
00:22:52
that would stood out but it was in the
00:22:54
beginning of the year where he moved to
00:22:56
Wellington stayed with my auntie
00:22:59
uh and yeah just things went wrong and
00:23:03
then he came back to Oakland and then
00:23:05
yeah just kind of went downhill from
00:23:07
there that was the it was just it was
00:23:09
like a it was like a snowball it just
00:23:12
just grew momentum and it just got so
00:23:15
fast so
00:23:16
intense yeah
00:23:19
um yeah man it's just it's
00:23:23
just yeah it's insane man cuz you feel
00:23:25
it's like the equivalent of someone
00:23:29
um you know when someone's got cancer
00:23:32
right you kind of you have hopefully if
00:23:35
it's isolated you can have cancer and
00:23:37
cut out the tumor whereas with
00:23:40
this it's just in its head you know no
00:23:43
one could affect except for really
00:23:46
themselves that's the hardest thing
00:23:48
could start to you know have that
00:23:51
surgical procedure but it wasn't like a
00:23:53
tumor you wish you could just have
00:23:55
surgery and cut it out but you couldn't
00:23:57
yeah yeah it's um it's so difficult is
00:24:00
man I'm so sorry for your loss like how
00:24:03
you how are your parents how have they
00:24:04
been I I can't imagine the hole at
00:24:06
leaves oh man like at at First mom yeah
00:24:10
Mom was a mess you know out of everyone
00:24:13
like we're all messes we're all [ __ ]
00:24:17
we're like we're all traumatized fragile
00:24:20
broken you know I I went I got very dark
00:24:23
which was very scary and it's something
00:24:26
I want to also share on this journey as
00:24:28
it progresses too that you know I got I
00:24:30
got very yeah very dark myself but then
00:24:33
my parents yeah Dad dad's a bit more of
00:24:35
a old school sto because he's in his 70s
00:24:37
so he's just got that old school kind of
00:24:39
stoicness about him and he speaks and
00:24:41
shares what needs he's not so much at
00:24:43
his reserve but he just speaks and
00:24:45
shares where he thinks and what he
00:24:48
thinks is necessary you know whereas Mom
00:24:50
she's way more emotive and vocal she was
00:24:52
a teacher um so she obviously wasn't
00:24:54
teaching so she was just having to deal
00:24:56
through that whole process but then you
00:24:58
know over time she's she's she's got
00:25:01
better but she still has days where she
00:25:03
just breaks down you know just thinking
00:25:05
about that her son's gone she just has
00:25:08
sometimes it comes and hits her in waves
00:25:11
but but the thing is where she was to
00:25:12
where she is now she's extremely better
00:25:15
so I think that's kind of a thing like
00:25:17
the idea of like time is the best healer
00:25:19
and really like time has been the best
00:25:21
healer for all of us yeah I don't know
00:25:24
if um you people said Time Heals um all
00:25:27
the wounds but I don't I don't know if
00:25:28
the wound heals I think you just learn
00:25:30
to live with it we we'll have these
00:25:32
scars for the rest of our lives yeah
00:25:34
yeah what about what about you yeah oh
00:25:36
man it was it was it was it was dark man
00:25:38
it got very dark I got very afraid
00:25:41
actually how dark I got I'd never been
00:25:43
in that space you know I had suicide or
00:25:45
ideation and I've never in my life been
00:25:47
that way and all of a sudden it was like
00:25:50
a defense
00:25:51
mechanism yeah and that got scary man
00:25:54
like what keep you going um faith and
00:25:57
knowing that I could doing that this was
00:26:00
it would pass yeah and I kept training
00:26:03
like like at the time I was doing I
00:26:05
don't know if you know a 75 hard
00:26:07
challenge have you heard of oh yeah yeah
00:26:10
um what is it drink nothing but water
00:26:11
all day two workouts a day uh 10 pages
00:26:15
of um some
00:26:17
positive eating 75 and if you if you
00:26:20
slip up on one day you have to resit and
00:26:22
go back to zero yeah last I did it the
00:26:24
year before and failed about 30 days in
00:26:27
I was like damn did it again I think I
00:26:29
got 25 days and I was like damn did it
00:26:31
again I got 60 I think 55 or 60 days in
00:26:34
failed and I'm like [ __ ] I was going
00:26:36
overseas then I was like n I'll have to
00:26:38
come back do it again so then this year
00:26:41
I did it well last year I was doing it
00:26:43
and I was about 30 days in and then my
00:26:44
brother died and I'm like holy [ __ ] like
00:26:47
I can't continue this I was like no
00:26:49
like if I'm able to persever in the My
00:26:53
Darkest most painful most uncomfortable
00:26:57
situation in my life life having to
00:26:59
griev the loss of my brother then how
00:27:01
how am I ever going to do it and I just
00:27:04
continued and that I think was a huge
00:27:07
part as to my healing I just knew the
00:27:09
pain I was feeling which was very
00:27:11
intense would pass and I just honestly I
00:27:14
just persevered and just continued I was
00:27:16
very vocal with my friends how I was
00:27:18
feeling um I didn't hide anything and at
00:27:20
that point I'd stopped smoking marijuana
00:27:22
so I was very clear I wasn't dripping a
00:27:24
drop drop of alcohol I wasn't having
00:27:26
sugar no process I wasn't giving my body
00:27:29
any more extra dopamine it was just
00:27:31
raw rawness just sitting in your
00:27:34
emotions sitting in it speaking it
00:27:36
sitting in it hugely um and again that
00:27:39
ties in to the earlier question about my
00:27:41
resume that I'm I'm leaning on that I'm
00:27:44
leaning on that majorly with what I had
00:27:46
to go through last year experiencing the
00:27:48
loss of my brother and working through
00:27:50
that 75 hard while going through that
00:27:52
grief you know that was a [ __ ] grind
00:27:55
like you know so yeah that's and how I
00:27:59
am now I'm definitely in the best space
00:28:01
I've been since it's happened probably
00:28:03
ever but I think now I've just the but
00:28:06
you know there's a there's a degree of
00:28:08
like you know you could say a bit of
00:28:10
numbness for sure in some instances like
00:28:13
people say things that are horrific I'm
00:28:15
like I'm kind of unfazed because it's
00:28:18
just I can't compare it to you know
00:28:20
losing Jerome can you remember your last
00:28:23
um conversation with him yeah yeah I can
00:28:26
it was it was a phone call and we
00:28:28
actually meant to catch up the following
00:28:29
day it was on the Friday we're catching
00:28:31
up on the Saturday I was going to go
00:28:33
pick him up from the Respite Center
00:28:34
we're going to hang out for the day
00:28:36
what's a what's a resp Respite Center
00:28:38
it's basically like a facility where you
00:28:39
go when you're in kind of like a an
00:28:41
acute um sense of you know could be uh
00:28:45
like a mental breakdown or in a sense of
00:28:48
drone where you're where you attempted
00:28:50
to you know take your life um or someone
00:28:53
that's in like just emotionally volatile
00:28:55
State it's kind of a place to Center to
00:28:57
go and kind of get a bit of a reprieve
00:28:59
and have some support workers there just
00:29:01
to kind of guide you through the day and
00:29:03
just be relaxed and just don't down
00:29:05
regulate um so I was going to pick him
00:29:07
up from there and with two of his best
00:29:09
mates Tom and Maurice they're like they
00:29:11
were like that and we were all going to
00:29:13
come and it was all great and we had a
00:29:15
little back and forth text and then I
00:29:16
think a day before that we had a call
00:29:18
but man he he was just yeah it just
00:29:21
wasn't him you know that was the hardest
00:29:23
thing he just so flat you know sharing
00:29:26
how he fouled and
00:29:28
yeah that that was really it that was
00:29:30
kind of like the last proper proper call
00:29:34
yeah man I'm so sorry yeah did did he
00:29:37
leave the note or anything yeah he did
00:29:39
the he did well so he he attempted once
00:29:43
but he pulled out he left a note then
00:29:46
the second time he didn't leave a note
00:29:49
apparently that's very common yeah yeah
00:29:51
yeah yeah it's it's it's kind of rare I
00:29:53
believe for a night to be yeah left yeah
00:29:57
[ __ ] Yeah man so yeah and that's like
00:30:01
ultimately this
00:30:03
Mission that's that's the why you
00:30:06
know him and then Jordan and then before
00:30:09
that sha really CL he used to be my best
00:30:12
friend in primary um
00:30:15
sorry at College in year seven and eight
00:30:17
were like same same circumstances all in
00:30:20
a three-year period so except I've um
00:30:24
I've I've lost one friend this this way
00:30:26
and um it had a Prof impact on me yeah
00:30:29
like made me almost um you know uproot
00:30:32
my whole life in a lot of ways cuz I I
00:30:34
thought no one ever saw this coming and
00:30:36
I thought if this if this can happen to
00:30:38
this particular friend um who seemed
00:30:40
like the life of the party and wore a
00:30:42
[ __ ] good mask um it could easily be
00:30:45
me um and that made me really look deep
00:30:48
and look into things it's
00:30:49
um yeah the um the the ripple effect of
00:30:53
these things is um unimaginable isn't it
00:30:56
EXA yeah exactly right is that why what
00:30:59
started kind of your journey cuz you got
00:31:00
deep into your running right in the last
00:31:03
yeah definitely yeah yeah 100% it was
00:31:06
wow wow um and just yeah just other
00:31:08
aspects of my life as well just
00:31:09
completely like look under the Bonnet
00:31:10
work out what's working and what's not
00:31:12
working and make some drastic changes um
00:31:15
which is good in a way but it was
00:31:16
motivated by fear fear that I could end
00:31:18
up in the same space I think that's
00:31:20
that's the powerful thing he when it
00:31:22
comes to like tragedy and um yeah very
00:31:25
very like uh horrific circumstan s is
00:31:28
that we can actually turn that into
00:31:29
something powerful but it's just crazy
00:31:31
it has to be that way but sometimes it's
00:31:33
just the way it is in times of Crisis um
00:31:36
and there's this there's this idea it's
00:31:39
like a it's like a quote I think it's by
00:31:41
what's his name um the cave or How does
00:31:45
it go the cave you fear to enter is um
00:31:47
the most is the cave you must enter into
00:31:50
something along those
00:31:51
lines um and I think that's a big part
00:31:54
of this is that yeah when we're in those
00:31:57
places of Crisis that you know we got to
00:32:00
go down that place where we know we got
00:32:03
to go I think we're very aware of where
00:32:04
we need to go but it's it's very
00:32:06
daunting but sometimes in times of
00:32:08
Crisis it forces us to go there and you
00:32:12
um you lost your uncle uh last year as
00:32:15
well same month as your brother J
00:32:17
literally like literally within a month
00:32:19
what was what was that yeah he had a
00:32:21
stroke Jes so yeah his circumstances
00:32:24
were um quite like it was somewhat a
00:32:27
blessing because he had a stroke in 2012
00:32:30
and then he lived you know what's that
00:32:34
like 12 years on which in itself was a
00:32:37
miracle and then he but he had a second
00:32:39
one and it just unfortunately he was two
00:32:41
he was 72 years old so he was just too
00:32:44
old unfortunately um so yeah that
00:32:48
happened as well which f for my dad you
00:32:50
know cuz it was his brother yeah that's
00:32:53
why I felt so so worried and and and and
00:32:56
and sad for my dad dad cuz he had to
00:32:58
deal through that you know he didn't
00:33:00
really have the tools you just you start
00:33:02
to feel beaten up you're like what the
00:33:04
[ __ ] is going to happen and then two
00:33:06
weeks before that my cousin's wife gets
00:33:08
diagnosed with cancer so that all
00:33:10
happened in that period of like two
00:33:12
months like just felt left right and
00:33:14
center and I think this ties into the
00:33:17
mental health um thing as well is that
00:33:20
you know it can feel like the world's
00:33:22
against you and we just getting blows
00:33:24
from all angles but if you if you have a
00:33:26
why you know that I be any for any why
00:33:29
you can bear anyhow but if you have that
00:33:31
why if you continually progress on there
00:33:33
anything that comes yes it'll be painful
00:33:35
and you'll be afflicted to a lot but man
00:33:37
if you persist you can we're so much
00:33:40
stronger than we think just got to
00:33:42
continue though even you know in that
00:33:44
dark dark path we're on that there's
00:33:46
that light you know and that light will
00:33:47
get brighter and brighter but it's
00:33:49
always there I think it's always there
00:33:51
but when you're in the darkness you feel
00:33:52
blinded by it cuz it's so dark but
00:33:55
there's always a light there I think
00:33:56
that's something that
00:33:58
yeah is the driver of all of us for me
00:34:00
and I think for everyone that's going
00:34:02
through it that you know you may feel
00:34:03
like you're just in the ringer and you
00:34:06
you are you will be the pain you can't
00:34:08
deny it but man you can persevere more
00:34:11
than you think you know yeah so it's
00:34:14
unimaginable tragedy that you've gone
00:34:16
through and um yeah I mean on top of
00:34:19
this both your parents have survived
00:34:20
cancer as well yes yes like it's like
00:34:24
man how how how have you been how's your
00:34:26
mental health well it was it was man it
00:34:29
was it was [ __ ] Rocky last year um
00:34:33
but yeah where it's at now it's in a
00:34:35
place of like you know cuz I'm I'm a man
00:34:38
of faith and that's something that got
00:34:39
introduced to me last year my my path to
00:34:42
God and accepting um accepting Jesus
00:34:45
fundamentally and the teachings um of
00:34:48
him and and and really trying to like
00:34:50
surrender and reduce yourself down into
00:34:52
something that's bigger than you and
00:34:54
that's been a huge huge Factor to my
00:34:58
mental health and my peace I have now
00:35:00
because I don't see things that are
00:35:02
happening to me anymore I see them as
00:35:04
things that are happening for me for the
00:35:06
betterment of my service and that's why
00:35:08
service is so important to me so I think
00:35:11
yeah answering that question it's like
00:35:12
I'm in a place now where I just want to
00:35:14
serve um I want to be the best Beacon of
00:35:17
light that I can be and the best servant
00:35:19
to God fundamentally that's how I see my
00:35:21
life now and that keeps me keeps me
00:35:23
quite humble because with this Mission
00:35:26
heaps of people were saying oh you you
00:35:28
you you and you're and I'm like it's not
00:35:31
really about me even though I'm the one
00:35:33
running yes but I see it that I'm just
00:35:35
working as like a conduit and I'm just
00:35:37
going forward and doing this thing and
00:35:40
and and the reasoning is working through
00:35:41
me and I just happen to be the person
00:35:43
The Vessel that's doing it you know and
00:35:45
it keeps me humbled because I don't want
00:35:46
to let the ego the ego can trickle in
00:35:48
and start to hijack the whole thing so
00:35:52
yeah that's keeping my my head space um
00:35:54
it's keeping me grounded you know I
00:35:56
don't want to get my head up in the
00:35:57
cloud and um let those things kind of
00:36:00
infiltrate me and affect me uh so yeah
00:36:04
but yeah it was it was it was tough last
00:36:05
year honestly it was very very
00:36:08
tough uh just yeah just felt
00:36:12
like it was just unending you know even
00:36:16
though I knew I just knew that I was
00:36:19
going to get through it and it would
00:36:20
pass it was still felt so like intense
00:36:23
at times so it made me feel bad for
00:36:26
people that have no tools and have no
00:36:28
faith or have no friendship friendships
00:36:30
or have no families around them um I'm
00:36:33
like damn that's I'm not surpris that
00:36:36
you see a lot of you know the homeless
00:36:37
like most of it so many of them are I
00:36:40
read the statistic that's high
00:36:42
percentage of them have mental health
00:36:44
issues you know for sure that's that's
00:36:46
what's that's what's like gave a lot of
00:36:48
perspective when I see homeless now I'm
00:36:49
like damn like that could have been my
00:36:51
brother if he didn't have our family
00:36:52
like
00:36:53
obviously in this sense that that
00:36:56
decision was made but had that not been
00:36:58
made he probably would have ended up on
00:36:59
the streets if he had no support network
00:37:02
and that's like probably just as bad
00:37:04
yeah you know how did how did you get
00:37:06
introduced to Faith was it through a
00:37:08
friend or was it yeah in a way well I
00:37:10
grew up in a Catholic Family and you
00:37:12
know growing up I was always kind of
00:37:14
like oh I don't want to go to church
00:37:16
like you know Dad would knock on the
00:37:17
door I'd be pretending to be asleep
00:37:19
which is stupid because he's going to
00:37:21
wake me up anyway you know I never
00:37:23
wanted to go to church and then it was
00:37:25
the beginning of last year which ties to
00:37:27
why I stopped smoking marijana I joined
00:37:29
a men's group and the men's group was
00:37:31
about um just becoming a better better
00:37:34
man in this world becoming no discipline
00:37:36
structured living a life of virtue um
00:37:39
living a life of um humility um but
00:37:43
being very passionate and driven and
00:37:45
around that ethos was daily prayer um
00:37:48
and I was like oh interesting and then
00:37:51
one day I got on my knees started to
00:37:53
pray and then all of a sudden just this
00:37:54
floodgates of emotions and love just
00:37:57
filled my body and yeah it was quite
00:37:59
intense like I must admit but it felt so
00:38:02
good um honestly like a like was like a
00:38:05
drug like I'd never had before and and
00:38:09
receiving that I was like oh interesting
00:38:12
that's quite profound so I continued on
00:38:14
that path and then it was when Drome
00:38:16
died
00:38:18
um I was continuing on that you know
00:38:21
that path of you know the the daily
00:38:22
prayer and I wasn't smoking and you know
00:38:25
75 heart Etc and then I had had a
00:38:27
brother's friend happen to text me um
00:38:30
and prior to that probably a week prior
00:38:32
had this inkling about baptism I was
00:38:34
like okay I'm kind of pulled there for
00:38:36
some reason I don't know what it was and
00:38:37
then this friend not knowing that I had
00:38:40
that thought text me saying hey bro I
00:38:42
felt called to text you that we're doing
00:38:44
baptisms at the church um this weekend
00:38:47
and I was like what the heck I was like
00:38:50
okay yeah did that and then from there
00:38:52
ever since then it's kind of just been
00:38:54
that path I've been on now just yeah
00:38:57
just too many odd circumstances um so
00:39:01
yeah that's and now now as
00:39:03
I've willingly and consciously um
00:39:06
accepted um that path and gone the path
00:39:09
of you know accepting God and Jesus and
00:39:12
those those ideas that it's changed from
00:39:13
when I was a child so yeah and that's
00:39:16
kind of how it began and where it's
00:39:18
going now so yeah it's pretty geez
00:39:20
you're not you're not a guy that does
00:39:22
anything by halves yeah it seems like
00:39:26
whatever you do you to 110 yeah cuz cuz
00:39:30
before that I was on the spiritual path
00:39:32
you know I did the passers did a couple
00:39:35
10day silent Retreats and went down the
00:39:38
path of Buddhism joined the Buddhist um
00:39:41
Center when I was living in Christ
00:39:43
Church and and you know was all a part
00:39:45
of that and just seeking that that that
00:39:48
that internal peace you know and then um
00:39:51
yeah so I've I've I've seeked and I've
00:39:53
I've shopped around as you would say you
00:39:56
know so yeah fun you say that it's it's
00:39:58
very much the case of yeah go in you
00:40:01
know yeah and are you so so this the
00:40:05
time we're recording this um the
00:40:07
challenge that we're doing uh 100 days
00:40:10
hopefully uh running the length of the
00:40:12
country twice um yeah what about your
00:40:15
mental health on that there's going to
00:40:17
be some dark times some Dark Places yeah
00:40:19
I guess same answer as before um I
00:40:22
honestly see that God's using me as a
00:40:24
vessel and I'm just doing his will so
00:40:27
whatever that happens whatever I'm
00:40:29
feeling I'll accept it embrace it work
00:40:32
through it um but yeah I've got the the
00:40:35
path to go you know again it's kind of
00:40:38
like that um kind of approaching it from
00:40:40
a more stoic standpoint that yes I'm
00:40:42
feeling his emotions and I'm 100% going
00:40:45
to be feeling these emotions um allow
00:40:48
them feel them I'll have my crew to talk
00:40:50
to so yeah it's kind of just coming from
00:40:52
that same way I've been processing
00:40:54
through with derome it's just accepting
00:40:55
it embracing it not ignoring it working
00:40:58
through it knowing that it will pass
00:41:01
each day is going to be its own
00:41:02
Challenge and taking it day at a time I
00:41:04
think I shared this in The Herald
00:41:06
article that the hardest thing of this
00:41:08
obviously physically that's inevitable
00:41:10
but it's just not thinking far ahead I
00:41:13
have to be in each day each each segment
00:41:16
of each day so each 20K block that's my
00:41:18
focus for that time just bit by bit and
00:41:21
it's the same as running 100 miles the
00:41:23
moment you think about the Finish Line
00:41:25
you're [ __ ] or at least you're going
00:41:26
to be
00:41:28
overwhelmed Yeah well yeah it's a it's a
00:41:31
a cliche but it is literally just
00:41:33
putting one foot in front of the other a
00:41:34
and it's um there's so so many good
00:41:36
metaphors for life that I love with um
00:41:38
distance running it's like um you you
00:41:41
you you've got to expect it's going to
00:41:42
be hard and difficult and then when that
00:41:44
does happen you're not going to be
00:41:45
surprised or shocked yeah and that's
00:41:47
like life as well exactly right so um
00:41:50
you've been working through your
00:41:52
training you you work in a Vineyard work
00:41:54
in a Vineyard y y so been doing that now
00:41:57
on off since 2019 um there was a period
00:42:00
where I was working in a working
00:42:01
laboring um as well in that but yeah in
00:42:04
the vineyard which as I was saying off
00:42:07
off off the camera before was um it's
00:42:09
good time on feet you know that's the
00:42:11
good thing about it like I'm on my feet
00:42:13
all day every day so I'm essentially
00:42:16
walking all
00:42:18
day so it's great cross training and and
00:42:21
your employers that they've obviously
00:42:22
been really good and really
00:42:24
accommodating real accommodating I had
00:42:26
to give my notice for this one though
00:42:27
but that's I think now it's just a way
00:42:29
of formalizing what do they what do they
00:42:31
make of you what do they think um I
00:42:33
don't know I've never actually asked
00:42:35
they think you're Bonkers yeah I don't
00:42:37
know I'd have to ask I'd have to ask
00:42:39
David he might yeah he's been aware cuz
00:42:42
I I I left about two years ago and I got
00:42:45
reemployed over just just over a year
00:42:47
ago now and he was very acutely aware of
00:42:49
my my Endeavors and he was quite
00:42:51
accommodating in that respect so but
00:42:53
yeah I've never actually asked him I
00:42:55
don't know you would have to contact him
00:42:57
yeah
00:42:57
I mean it's a huge it's a huge
00:42:59
undertaking you know people talk about a
00:43:01
um big hairy audacious gold this is
00:43:04
definitely that yeah yeah absolutely
00:43:06
yeah so um TR what's training looked
00:43:08
like yeah cool so it's been I've self
00:43:12
coached because I've I've I've you know
00:43:15
somewhat built a pretty good knowledge
00:43:17
base and I had a coach in my Iron Man
00:43:19
Simon Cochran you probably know him I've
00:43:21
had him on the podcast I have yeah he's
00:43:23
a Savage Savage so inspiring yeah he so
00:43:26
he he was my my coach when I did my
00:43:28
first Iron Man this year and like and
00:43:30
then prior to that having have done my
00:43:32
own um you know 100 miles and previous
00:43:35
races I kind of with his with his
00:43:38
expertise for his coaching and through
00:43:39
my prior um experiences I kind of just
00:43:42
Amalgamated all that and obviously now
00:43:44
with my further knowledge I've been
00:43:46
researching through like podcasts and
00:43:47
articles and reading like the nutrition
00:43:50
literature all that stuff and it's kind
00:43:51
of just kind of culminated into this
00:43:54
into this sort of uh blueprint that I've
00:43:57
formulated so key is obviously time on
00:44:00
feet that's been a huge component so
00:44:02
with work but it's also just running I
00:44:05
was running basically every day for like
00:44:07
at one point for probably two months
00:44:09
close to two months that in itself I
00:44:11
think was a good stimulus um Progressive
00:44:15
overload so progressively and gradually
00:44:18
building up volume and sustaining it and
00:44:20
then building up again dropping it
00:44:22
building up so the the technical term is
00:44:25
called periodization so you like little
00:44:27
Peaks and troughs throughout that phase
00:44:29
and I had about a 16 we specific build
00:44:32
for this I was leveraging obviously the
00:44:34
Iron Man I've done this year and a few
00:44:36
Ultras i' done prior to that I was very
00:44:39
much using that as a launch pad into
00:44:41
this um and then yeah obviously a lot of
00:44:45
long runs backto back long runs that's
00:44:47
been a big a big fact you know being
00:44:49
able to run 50k and that be easy like
00:44:52
that's a good sign I think I'm in a good
00:44:53
place cuz I do 50k now I'm like oh yeah
00:44:55
cool mean feels like ran 10K so having
00:44:58
that sort of mental and physical
00:45:00
feedback was like real good signs um and
00:45:03
obviously just eating eating a lot this
00:45:05
last three four weeks I've put on
00:45:08
probably four 5 kg I'm definitely
00:45:10
heavier than I usually am doing a lot of
00:45:12
gem as well yeah I was going to ask when
00:45:14
when I meet you at the doorstep you've
00:45:15
got sort of like more definitely more of
00:45:17
an Iron Man body than a a marathon body
00:45:20
I was I was I was wondering what I was
00:45:22
going to see at the doorstep cuz yeah I
00:45:24
thought you might be like um beefing up
00:45:26
as much as you can you're going to L so
00:45:29
you start running it doesn't let you
00:45:31
carrying any of extra fat or
00:45:33
anything yeah somewhat but I'm
00:45:35
definitely are heavier than usually
00:45:36
usually around the race I'm like 88 87
00:45:38
and now I'm about a now I'm about 92 93
00:45:41
kgs so yeah eating a lot more um I'm
00:45:44
quite a strict and quite like intense
00:45:47
with my diet but this time I've been
00:45:49
very like laxity cool like having pies
00:45:51
more cuz I'm going be eating a lot of
00:45:53
Pies on the mission you know um and just
00:45:55
having like lot just more volume more
00:45:58
volume um so yeah diet eating is being
00:46:00
very imperative just making sure I'm
00:46:02
getting a lot of protein you know I want
00:46:03
to be heading 20 100 plus grams a day on
00:46:06
the mission so making that staple now
00:46:08
has been very kind of a key focal point
00:46:11
um so yeah that's good and then
00:46:13
obviously recovery that's huge so like
00:46:15
you know trying to massage as much as I
00:46:17
can self massage um yoga as much as I
00:46:20
can sauna sauna is huge I do that at
00:46:23
least at the moment cuz with work it's
00:46:26
been hectic so I've been going at least
00:46:28
once a week to the sauna I think that
00:46:31
alone is better than nothing but it's
00:46:33
also just for replenishment um and also
00:46:36
it's just good for recovery for blood
00:46:37
flow that's a good thing with sauna um
00:46:40
cuz once you start you're not going to
00:46:41
be a to do any any saing are you yeah
00:46:44
yeah probably not I'd like to but
00:46:46
probably not I probably won't be able to
00:46:48
yeah got a ice bath that but that'll be
00:46:51
that'll be in during I've got like a
00:46:53
little inflatable one um I'll be using
00:46:55
every time we have access to water and
00:46:58
ice we'll do that as much as we can cuz
00:46:59
that's huge there's yeah I don't know
00:47:02
much about the um about about the trail
00:47:06
I think I've ran like parts of it myself
00:47:08
but it runs the entire length of the
00:47:09
country but um yeah a lot of it you're
00:47:11
completely isolated right yeah yeah
00:47:13
South irand is going to be the most
00:47:15
isolated about 50% of it I'll be very
00:47:17
much like on my own and it'll be about a
00:47:20
two-day 1 to two day period where it'll
00:47:22
be literally like inaccessible to the
00:47:24
crew fortunately I've got I've got my of
00:47:27
my crew Sam good old Sammy boy um he'll
00:47:29
be pacing um along with me at certain
00:47:32
points so that's going to be real good
00:47:34
just for morale but just to have him
00:47:36
take some of the load that obviously the
00:47:38
weit CU obviously don't want to be
00:47:40
having too much extra weight and that's
00:47:41
another thing as well I I'd be remissed
00:47:43
to not not add his um rcking that's been
00:47:47
huge so what that means is basically
00:47:49
backpack on 20 25 kgs of weight in the
00:47:53
backpack and going for hikes uphills
00:47:55
that's been a real huge uge component to
00:47:57
my training too just time on feet
00:47:59
walking with very tired legs but also
00:48:01
walking with a lot of load you're kind
00:48:03
of emulating how you'll feel obviously
00:48:06
I'm not going to be running more than
00:48:07
100ks but when you run 100ks your body
00:48:09
gets very heavy and tired so I've kind
00:48:11
of just been emulating that a bit just
00:48:13
to kind of have that bit of um you know
00:48:16
specificity to that adaptation it's it's
00:48:19
going to carry over especially when in
00:48:20
the South Island portion where there's a
00:48:22
lot of hiking um that will be the case
00:48:25
yeah so yeah so the um the um the sort
00:48:28
of average we we're going for us like
00:48:29
60k a day which works out to be 420 km a
00:48:32
week which is exactly it's nut it's
00:48:35
insane
00:48:37
um yes so the support so who is it semi
00:48:41
semi um Mark he's camera guy Logistics
00:48:45
and then Joel he's Logistics and also
00:48:47
cooking he's a real good cook right so
00:48:49
they're just sort of driving like State
00:48:51
Highway One St and then the meeting with
00:48:53
you yeah some point State high one they
00:48:56
will be yeah yeah that's T Trails
00:48:58
obviously not on State Highway one but
00:49:01
yeah we'll be yeah exactly right meeting
00:49:02
they'll go ahead yo boys I meet you in
00:49:05
like 3 hours cuz I'm probably averaging
00:49:09
you know I'd like to be it's pretty slow
00:49:12
like 8 minute pace 9 minute pace some
00:49:14
days um what's different terrain you're
00:49:16
running on so you can't really go by
00:49:18
can't you can't really be too yeah
00:49:20
exactly you can't really go by distance
00:49:21
it's more time Pace feel because you
00:49:24
have a moment you start going too quick
00:49:26
that just com compounds you know and so
00:49:28
um so you'll be sleeping in the back of
00:49:31
they've got like a camper van and meet
00:49:32
with them okay right so you're not
00:49:34
taking a sleeping bag and are there some
00:49:36
parts that you'll be sleeping in the
00:49:37
bush yeah the South Island part there'll
00:49:39
be about a two day period or one and a
00:49:41
half day period where I'll be by myself
00:49:43
so I have to take my backpack take my
00:49:44
sleeping bag but we'll stay in dock cuts
00:49:46
which is pretty cool the thing with the
00:49:47
Tor Trail it's a sanctioned trail that
00:49:50
was opened in 2011 and um in the south
00:49:53
island that that would probably be the
00:49:54
most popular so to say um section of the
00:49:57
trail and that's where there's a lot of
00:49:59
dot Cuts along the way and yeah very
00:50:01
available and so availability is high so
00:50:03
in that case I'll have somewhat of a
00:50:05
place to sleep and I'll take my little
00:50:07
gas cooker burner just my dehydrated
00:50:10
food and just on we go oh good yeah um
00:50:15
yeah what about logistics and planning
00:50:16
like how much man I'd I'd really want to
00:50:18
share this we when did this start like I
00:50:22
can't imagine what a mind [ __ ] this is
00:50:24
mind [ __ ] man like honestly there's a
00:50:26
part of me that had I knowing what was
00:50:28
involved I'd almost like wait five years
00:50:31
10 years until I'm more like business
00:50:33
savvy in my brain but um really I I
00:50:36
thought about this around when Jordan
00:50:38
died last not last year year before so
00:50:41
probably about two years ago I'd thought
00:50:43
about this um so somewhat that was kind
00:50:46
of you know the seed you could say but
00:50:48
it was only around it was around when
00:50:52
Jerome died that I was like yeah like
00:50:54
I'm [ __ ] doing this you know and then
00:50:57
the logistics the real planning started
00:50:59
just before my Iron Man so that would
00:51:01
have been around uh Jan FIB this year
00:51:03
where I started to like start reaching
00:51:05
out to people and start formulating what
00:51:07
this actually looks like buying the
00:51:09
Tiora like travel book I reached out to
00:51:12
George Henderson who I mentioned before
00:51:13
he was such a such a good guy with all
00:51:16
his information reached out to the uh
00:51:18
female fkt holder um um oh her name's uh
00:51:24
Brooke um
00:51:26
oh man her book her name's Brook her
00:51:29
name's Brook but I forgotten her last
00:51:30
name she she holds the current fkt she
00:51:32
was real helpful um so having them and
00:51:35
it kind of just culminated that
00:51:36
information and I just started reaching
00:51:38
out to sponsors and I I did the cost
00:51:41
First you know looking at about 65 grand
00:51:44
for this to be paying to be um servicing
00:51:47
all the needs of myself and the crew
00:51:50
food um averaging about $80 a day per
00:51:54
head which is pretty it's a good good
00:51:56
good good head room in case you know
00:51:57
some nights we want to go out and have
00:51:59
like a good feed so the boys are
00:52:00
somewhat you know comfortable cuz
00:52:02
they're going to be working their butts
00:52:03
off too you know like if anything I've
00:52:05
got the easy part I'm just running
00:52:07
they're going to be prepping Logistics
00:52:08
driving so that and then the um fuel
00:52:12
costs obviously that's quite massive um
00:52:14
averaging about $60 a day or diesel so
00:52:18
you know that's still quite aggressive
00:52:19
as well so I went pretty aggressive with
00:52:21
the with the cost because if we
00:52:23
encounter you know emergencies we want
00:52:25
to have that contingency buffer so the
00:52:27
cost side of things was a huge part and
00:52:29
from there I was like okay I got to
00:52:30
raise 65 Grand where the [ __ ] do I start
00:52:33
this when we're in a recession you know
00:52:35
so I just reached out to businesses
00:52:37
companies let them know the Spiel and
00:52:39
that's what it's been really just been a
00:52:41
grind of reaching out to companies
00:52:42
reaching out to businesses people that
00:52:45
feel they want to get behind the mission
00:52:46
get behind the vision and it just
00:52:48
started from there and that those emails
00:52:50
started being sent once I finished the
00:52:52
IM man I was like man now I can fully
00:52:54
invest into this at first it was kind of
00:52:57
like on my own terms you know emails
00:53:00
whatever but then once I did the Iron
00:53:01
Man I was like sweet I'm all in now I
00:53:03
can just focus solely on this so I
00:53:05
reached I obviously had to find the crew
00:53:07
so at the vineyard one of the crew um he
00:53:10
works with me so he we got real close
00:53:13
over the last few years he was actually
00:53:15
Old St peters's boy old school went to
00:53:16
same school all all of the crew happened
00:53:19
to all go St Peters which I found pretty
00:53:20
funny just a
00:53:22
coincidence um so yeah and just from
00:53:24
there just kind of built over time once
00:53:26
I got the once I got started again some
00:53:28
sponsors once I built the media press
00:53:31
kit the deck with all the information
00:53:33
about the vision and about the story
00:53:34
with my brother um my reasoning for it
00:53:37
my goal with the
00:53:38
foundation um and obviously again
00:53:41
finding out the foundation that was its
00:53:42
own process too I already had an idea I
00:53:45
wanted to go with them cuz I actually
00:53:47
had met Jerome Tai had who's the founder
00:53:50
real good man um and he was behind it um
00:53:54
and he knew he was kind of some what
00:53:56
aware of like my kind of my buzz with
00:53:59
endurance and then I reached out to him
00:54:01
and he was just stoked to you know know
00:54:03
that I wanted to do for them and once I
00:54:05
was committed that helped because it
00:54:06
allowed the uh approach to all the
00:54:09
businesses and companies to become more
00:54:11
clear and refined you could say Well it
00:54:14
it sounds like from from your
00:54:15
perspective like the hard work is done
00:54:17
yeah I'd say so honestly you just want
00:54:20
the game to start I just want it to
00:54:21
start now you know this week's busy got
00:54:24
to get the motor home wrapped um got get
00:54:26
the t-shirts in to get printed um got to
00:54:29
get the last last few bits of funding
00:54:31
that are coming through got to get the
00:54:32
kit got to buy some of the food that I'm
00:54:35
going to be and then there's a big
00:54:36
another thing a big shout out there's a
00:54:39
massive event on Sunday happening that
00:54:41
Mitchell's bone bro protein pow one of
00:54:43
my main sponsors they actually putting
00:54:45
on an event um out on Tamaki drive at
00:54:49
that Hyundai Marine Center MH I think
00:54:52
that's the name of it um it's called Uh
00:54:54
brighter days and it's basically a a
00:54:56
wellness morning workshop where we'll be
00:54:58
doing contrast therapy so ibath sauna
00:55:01
there'll be some movement some running
00:55:03
with grave Runners be a Q&A with myself
00:55:06
a Q&A with Ty a founder of Last Chance
00:55:08
project and a conversation with a
00:55:10
psychologist um that will be just
00:55:12
talking about all things yeah mental
00:55:14
health and wellness and yeah I think
00:55:16
that in itself is going to be like the
00:55:18
Launchpad which will be real exciting
00:55:20
that's kind of like the last last
00:55:23
logistical thing that can then launch
00:55:25
myself and the crew into us and we can
00:55:27
just start you know and then see you
00:55:29
drive the camper van up
00:55:32
toang and the trail starts on 90 Mile
00:55:35
Beach does it or no it's literally at
00:55:37
the Lighthouse right so you got to
00:55:38
Gravel Road for a little bit then you're
00:55:40
on beach for ages yeah yeah yeah so 90
00:55:43
Mile Beach that's going to yeah I've
00:55:45
been watching a lot of and it's it's
00:55:46
literally like yeah I'll probably just
00:55:49
go bare feet to be honest when I'm on
00:55:50
that I just don't see the point of
00:55:51
wearing shoes on Sand doesn't make sense
00:55:54
I'm already such a Barefoot person as it
00:55:56
is
00:55:56
how many How many pairs of shoes have
00:55:58
you got here marked for 10 10 what are
00:56:00
you wearing like hocus or Vivo Barefoot
00:56:03
right right yeah I've been I've been
00:56:05
that way inclin for about four years now
00:56:07
um and they jumped on board to support
00:56:09
which was amazing um yeah teaches the
00:56:12
feet integrity and strength and for what
00:56:15
I'm doing it's slow so I'm not needing
00:56:17
that feedback from like a spring Soul
00:56:19
I'm not needing that sort of feedback in
00:56:21
this case it's just grinding just slow
00:56:23
plot all day and I want something that's
00:56:25
going to strengthen me as I go along not
00:56:27
not you know atrophies I never get
00:56:30
blisters in these in these shoes too so
00:56:32
another thing that fers cross it I went
00:56:35
heft to encounter so you're allowing for
00:56:37
how long each day like 10 hours a day 8
00:56:39
hours a day 10 to 12 10 to 12 yeah yeah
00:56:42
yeah and and what about um like eating
00:56:45
each day just whatever you obviously you
00:56:46
have a backpack with yeah that'll
00:56:48
that'll have like I'll probably have
00:56:50
some Tailwind electrolytes um one of the
00:56:53
main sponsors a light they they
00:56:55
electrolyte company that have um jumped
00:56:57
on board and supported me that'll be
00:56:59
huge so hydration obviously and then
00:57:01
during during those mid portions like
00:57:04
yeah I'll be snacking and whatnot but
00:57:06
it's going to be more so the the break
00:57:08
periods where I'll be feeding up so
00:57:09
breakfast will be massive will be like
00:57:11
oats with like shitload of protein
00:57:14
powder heaps of cream heaps of fruit
00:57:16
that's going to be the first thing
00:57:18
coffee of course um with cream can't go
00:57:20
wrong you know and then do that portion
00:57:23
and then lunch will be kind of somewhat
00:57:25
similar like a protein pancake type
00:57:27
thing levered with um bacon and maple
00:57:30
syrup and eggs very dense carbohydrates
00:57:33
um but also a lot of protein and in the
00:57:35
evenings way more carbohydrates than
00:57:38
protein so evenings will be like very
00:57:40
carbohydrate Rich because you want that
00:57:41
for the replenishment to V start the
00:57:43
next day so that'll be look like Kuma
00:57:46
and um potatoes rice not really a pasta
00:57:49
man and I don't really want to
00:57:50
incorporate that now because it's not
00:57:52
something I really eat much because I
00:57:54
just think I could get I can get a bit
00:57:56
inflamed from pasta um so I usually like
00:57:59
the whole forms of carbohydrates com
00:58:02
potato um rice um and then obviously
00:58:05
hick load of meat and like mints easily
00:58:08
digestable of course and then um dessert
00:58:11
would be just like fruit with cream and
00:58:13
yogurt and so it's just Whole Foods very
00:58:16
Whole Food oriented for sure um but then
00:58:20
in the days when I'm running like yeah
00:58:22
I'll probably have snacks for sure
00:58:23
absolutely like but I'm more focused on
00:58:26
on those those rest stop periods so
00:58:29
breakfast lunch dinner are going to be
00:58:30
very pillar like they just need to be
00:58:32
targeted and very dense cuz you want to
00:58:34
be heading about 8,000 calories a day
00:58:37
Hing 10,000 is quite hard um from a
00:58:39
digestive standpoint is's a certain
00:58:41
point where you can't take much more in
00:58:43
and I'm not a bodybuilder I'm not going
00:58:44
to be able to wake up at 2: a.m. and eat
00:58:48
because that'll affect my recovery you
00:58:49
know and and what about um like ear
00:58:51
plugs or music are you going to be
00:58:53
listening to anything or you going to ra
00:58:54
dog usually honestly usually I do raw
00:58:56
dog but I'm going to have them on hand
00:58:58
because I don't want to again like I'm
00:59:01
already doing something so intense so I
00:59:02
may as well have that at my disposal you
00:59:05
know yeah usually I do raw dog I don't
00:59:07
usually listen to much when I run and
00:59:08
train but usually in the evenings when
00:59:11
I'm you know I know what I could be like
00:59:13
I'll be pretty like unmotivated so it's
00:59:15
a matter of just being like sometimes
00:59:17
just jamming in some you know who knows
00:59:20
what it would be I've kind my my music's
00:59:22
weird like I don't listen to like ACDC
00:59:24
or like Hype music when run I listen to
00:59:27
like freaking like um radio head or I
00:59:30
listen to like sometimes like jazz or
00:59:32
like classical music weird somehow it
00:59:35
just Cals me and fires me
00:59:38
up whatever flat your individual um
00:59:42
exactly a lot of these a lot of these
00:59:44
epic um endurance challenges um I've
00:59:46
seen this happen time and time again um
00:59:48
they capitulate because there's like
00:59:50
issues with the crew or the crew gets
00:59:52
disillusioned and it all falls to Pieces
00:59:55
um have you guys discuss like how are
00:59:57
you going to not not be a pain in the
00:59:58
ass when you get tired and grumpy how
01:00:01
how are you going to make sure the crew
01:00:03
you know stay on track and stay focused
01:00:06
is it something you've good good good
01:00:08
question in a way yeah like that's a big
01:00:10
reason why um because obviously my crew
01:00:13
are not going to be um getting paid I'm
01:00:16
not I haven't really got the budget but
01:00:19
I've set it up so that all their needs
01:00:21
are met and paid for so that's what a
01:00:23
lot of that cost um that I've raised for
01:00:25
from all these companies that are that
01:00:27
are sponsoring us and supporting us a
01:00:28
lot of that cost is going towards them
01:00:30
too so that their needs are met so that
01:00:32
they're somewhat comfortable so that
01:00:33
they if they want to um go out and have
01:00:36
a beautiful lunch for themselves that
01:00:38
that money is there 80 bucks a day per
01:00:40
day per head food each it's a pretty I
01:00:43
feel that in itself I want at least
01:00:45
those sorts of needs me I think that
01:00:46
ties into what you're saying so that
01:00:49
their needs are met they're in a good
01:00:50
head space so that if I am a grouchy
01:00:52
[ __ ] they're at least like well I'm
01:00:55
I'm pretty replenish today I don't think
01:00:56
I will be I'd like to think that I'll be
01:00:58
pretty stable but obviously if I'm in
01:01:00
that space I'll be like y boys as I've
01:01:02
told them like you [ __ ] tell me how
01:01:04
it is if I'm being a [ __ ] or being an
01:01:06
annoying annoy sorry for swearing
01:01:09
annoying mother
01:01:11
AKA tell me as it is I don't want us to
01:01:13
get on the bad Leaf you know I've been
01:01:15
quite upfront don't want to beat around
01:01:17
the bush so we've been pretty clear
01:01:18
about that from the onset that like
01:01:20
let's just be real you know we're going
01:01:22
to be together and in close confines for
01:01:24
a long time and that motor home will
01:01:26
probably smell like a den you know so I
01:01:29
want to make sure that we're all
01:01:31
somewhat like we're on the same boat
01:01:33
here so yeah that in itself is kind of
01:01:36
like a mitigating anything that gets
01:01:38
messy along the way um yeah yeah cuz I I
01:01:42
genuinely believe with these sort of
01:01:43
things like I've got no doubt physically
01:01:44
you can do it but I I think yeah this is
01:01:46
the trouble with these things cuz you're
01:01:48
you're busy all day every day running um
01:01:51
and just basically fueling and then
01:01:53
rinse and repeat and then you've got
01:01:54
these these guys that are in a car
01:01:56
they're driving for a bit then they're
01:01:58
parked up for hours just playing on
01:01:59
their phone and I suppose that's when
01:02:01
the head thoughts creeping yeah yeah
01:02:03
yeah AB you're so right and I think I
01:02:06
think for them too that they've all kind
01:02:07
of come to a place where they grateful
01:02:09
that I've got them on board which is
01:02:11
awesome to hear that back but also they
01:02:14
know and I know they know that this is
01:02:16
going to be an adventure and an intense
01:02:18
learning for them too like we're all
01:02:20
even already where we are now were
01:02:22
different people to when we started this
01:02:23
but I know for a fact that these guys my
01:02:27
crew in particular they're going to be
01:02:29
different after at the end of this as
01:02:31
well for them this is going to be an
01:02:32
intense like I think they're going to
01:02:34
learn a lot about themselves too and I
01:02:36
feel that's another reason why I have
01:02:39
leaned on these guys is that I've I want
01:02:41
I trust them but I know that they want
01:02:45
more from themselves in life too so I
01:02:47
feel that them going into that and me
01:02:51
knowing that they want that it's kind of
01:02:53
like this like yeah let's let's we're
01:02:55
all on the same boat here we're all
01:02:56
going into these Uncharted territor so
01:02:59
yeah it's it's it's intense and I think
01:03:02
um also we'll get we learn real quickly
01:03:04
to where things need to be you know the
01:03:06
first week I think we'll be able to
01:03:08
tease out a lot of the points that we
01:03:10
didn't even know
01:03:12
were teething problems yeah what what
01:03:14
about unforeseen like um injuries or
01:03:16
illness you just you have a like a day
01:03:19
off or two days off if you need to or
01:03:21
well I mean
01:03:23
like yes or no like yeah it's it's all
01:03:26
it's all going to be a day-to-day like
01:03:28
management basis I got a I got a good
01:03:30
crew of physio on on tap I've given me a
01:03:33
list of Nationwide physios that I'd
01:03:35
recommend so like it's all going to be
01:03:38
management right like I I'll just be
01:03:40
real honest like okay if this is feeling
01:03:42
like this is getting bad I'll get this
01:03:44
checked up but if it's feeling okay I'll
01:03:46
go through it a day and then go the next
01:03:48
day try it out if it's not getting
01:03:50
better then I'll go get it checked up
01:03:51
it's going to be kind of like all a
01:03:53
management basis really that's kind of
01:03:55
how I'm to approach it um in terms of
01:03:58
day offs I haven't really like planned
01:04:01
that in but hey there's contingencies
01:04:03
definitely in the plan but I haven't
01:04:04
planned that in as the a priority if
01:04:07
that makes sense yeah so so you have and
01:04:09
also you haven't planned in any rest
01:04:11
days you yeah no but they're in there as
01:04:13
contingencies for sure but if they're
01:04:15
needed yeah exactly right but ideally
01:04:17
you just run run consecutive days cuz
01:04:20
cuz the thing is as well that the part
01:04:22
of the T Trail is you go on the woi
01:04:25
river so I may have a two-day period
01:04:27
where I'm going just be on the kayak
01:04:28
which is going to be intense for Le
01:04:30
because I'll stiffen up but at least you
01:04:32
know you've got as well exactly you know
01:04:35
yeah oh my God so things like that like
01:04:38
yeah so so we're recording this um late
01:04:41
September you're starting next yeah
01:04:44
Monday Tuesday Tuesday one week one week
01:04:47
right it's Tuesday today yeah literally
01:04:50
exactly we today and what date you're
01:04:52
starting on first of October first of
01:04:53
October nice number so ideally you'll be
01:04:56
you go all the way from the top of the
01:04:57
North Island to the bottom of the south
01:04:59
island and Back Again finishing maybe
01:05:01
early January y y yeah early Jan so
01:05:04
where will you be for Christmas Day
01:05:06
funny we'll probably be well actually
01:05:09
yes that's probably the only planned bre
01:05:11
day because around Christmas day will be
01:05:15
around um Huntley and then that day
01:05:19
we'll draw the mark for day and drive up
01:05:21
to Oakland and have Christmas with our
01:05:22
family and then drive back the next day
01:05:25
so I think Christmas day is actually the
01:05:26
only like in the plan rest day maybe
01:05:29
even boxing day we have a rest day I
01:05:31
can't remember but I know boxing day we
01:05:33
definitely have as a rest day just so we
01:05:34
can be with our families I think if you
01:05:37
were if you were really mentally tough
01:05:38
you'd spend Christmas day in Huntley
01:05:40
yeah way that's what I thought that's
01:05:42
mean sorry to people of H oh that's cool
01:05:46
oh that's really cool I think that'll be
01:05:47
good for the morale and you know it'll
01:05:49
be good just to have that birthday that
01:05:52
that Christmas um Tucker you know
01:05:55
nothing beats
01:05:56
oh God you've got that look in your ey
01:05:58
like you're really excited about this
01:05:59
you're ready to go yeah yeah oh oh man
01:06:02
like I can't explain if I
01:06:04
could like pel up the form of what I'm
01:06:07
feeling you know that excitement but
01:06:09
that but that nerves it's just this yeah
01:06:12
I must admit there's some nights where
01:06:14
I'm just okay I can't be thinking about
01:06:16
it because I'll end up staying up all
01:06:17
night so I'm just like okay I'll just
01:06:19
figure to back in the head go to sleep
01:06:21
but yeah man it's
01:06:24
it's I'm I'm I'm obsessed you know
01:06:27
really yeah in terms of logistics um you
01:06:30
seem really well organized but there's
01:06:32
got to be something youve forgotten man
01:06:34
there has to be something that you you
01:06:36
figure it out on the go though right
01:06:37
yeah guarantee it like the sponsorships
01:06:40
too there's going to be something you
01:06:41
sit up be like [ __ ] okay mate I'm sorry
01:06:46
I just fully you know yeah I can already
01:06:48
see that happening but yeah and are you
01:06:51
crew going to deal with everything like
01:06:52
that like you don't have to deal with ad
01:06:54
while you're doing it or yeah yeah yeah
01:06:55
yeah that that's a lot that they'll be
01:06:57
the they'll be the masterminds behind
01:06:59
that I'll still I'll still be on my
01:07:01
phone in terms of like um doing updates
01:07:04
but the crew will be doing a lot of the
01:07:05
content but I'll be the one that will be
01:07:07
like writing the captions there'll be
01:07:08
some days obviously where they'll
01:07:10
they'll tap in and share but um yeah I
01:07:13
still want to you know main goal is
01:07:15
obviously to run end of the day like I
01:07:17
just want to raise the money and just
01:07:19
raise as much awareness for this
01:07:20
Foundation as possible that's the bottom
01:07:22
line and obviously finish it like but
01:07:25
that found Foundation just for them to
01:07:27
just get that to get that exposure they
01:07:29
need and to get the eyes and ears and
01:07:32
the resources that they need that's
01:07:34
that's just the main focus yeah yeah I
01:07:38
think that's probably a good place to
01:07:39
end yeah awesome St raising hopefully a
01:07:44
million dollars for the last chance
01:07:45
project by running the length of the
01:07:47
country twice um Good Luck ma'am thank
01:07:50
you Don appreciate the conversation yeah
01:07:52
pleasure to sit down with you today and
01:07:54
sorry for everything you've been through
01:07:55
and I hope this goes well yeah agreed
01:07:57
thank you Don
