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Ric Salizzo on when John Kirwan went public with his mental health.#nzmentalhealth #nzrugby #nzsport

April 02, 202400:52
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I can't imagine how terrifying that was
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to come out I remember he would send me
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the chapters of his book to read and
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give him some feedback and he sent me
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the one on those depression called Black
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Dog and he's like I don't know if I'm
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going to put this in and I read it and I
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was like oh my God why didn't you tell
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me that this was happening I didn't
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understand cuz we were working together
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and he's like there was a lot of thought
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about exposing that side of his life
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because at that stage no one had ever
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done that before and it was a rugby book
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you know tell me how many Tri you scored
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what it was like the night after the
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World Cup final and stuff that's what
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rugby books were and he had the chapter
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about dealing with depression and and
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where where got to him and stuff but I
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know and I'm sure he's told you this
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that people will come up to him
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constantly and go you've saved my
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brother's life my father my husband you
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know particularly males and you just
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wonder whether you know his all black
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career was really designed to give him
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the profile to really do his good work
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yeah the platform yeah

Podspun Insights

In this episode, a candid conversation unfolds around the challenges of mental health, particularly within the traditionally tough world of rugby. The guest shares a poignant moment when he received a chapter about depression, aptly titled "Black Dog," from a friend who was grappling with his own demons. This revelation sparks a discussion about the societal pressures men face, especially in sports, and the transformative power of vulnerability. The episode highlights how sharing personal struggles can resonate deeply with others, potentially saving lives and fostering understanding. It's a heartfelt exploration of how one man's journey through darkness can illuminate the path for many.

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Episode Highlights

  • The Power of Vulnerability
    A rugby star shares his struggles with depression in a groundbreaking chapter.
    “There was a lot of thought about exposing that side of his life.”
    @ 00m 15s
    April 02, 2024
  • Impact Beyond Rugby
    His story resonates deeply, saving lives and inspiring many, especially men.
    “People will come up to him constantly and go, you've saved my brother's life.”
    @ 00m 36s
    April 02, 2024

Episode Quotes

Key Moments

  • Revelation of Struggles00:11
  • Life-Saving Impact00:38