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I just want you to be relaxed I can
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never relax yeah not when people are
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looking at me
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forever Andrew Fagen welcome to my
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podcast great to be here Dom wonderful
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to see you again oh oh handshake this I
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don't know what to expect I do think
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it's going to be chaotic though like
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you've come in here with your own chair
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to sit on what a flag to hang behind you
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this is the way you teach people to sail
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at a primary level so this is a toy
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Sailing Boat that I was involved with to
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manufacture of and made designed every
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little [ __ ] aspect of it that's
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beautiful but why do we need that as a
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prop for the podcast because I think
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it's important that we introduce people
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to the concert with sailing at an early
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age the Bell is here in order to stop
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you I'll ring the bell if you're going
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too private private can't become public
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just like that are you comfortable on
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that store though I like these big blue
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cheers because they're comfortable for a
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long form conversation I feel better on
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my knees Dominic that's the
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way oh that's nice isn't it