Former All Black Steve Devine: 30 Concussions and 2 Years in Darkness
Episode Description
In this deeply emotional episode, former All Black halfback Steve Devine opens like never before about the physical and mental toll of his rugby career.
After enduring around 40 concussions in his career with Auckland and the All Blacks, Steve ended up in some disturbingly low places: bedridden, depressed, and contemplating the unthinkable.
These days Steve channels his experience into helping others, both as a firefighter and as an advocate for better brain injury management in sport.
Some of the stuff we cover here includes:
The brutal injury list from his professional rugby career, from 12 ankle surgeries to broken bones and relentless concussions.
The devastating impact his health had on his marriage and family life.
His transition into the New Zealand Fire Service, the trauma that comes with the job, and his advocacy for better mental health support for first responders.
His reflections on mental resilience, vulnerability, and why men need to get better at asking for help.
Then there are some cool old rugby yarns, including the bollocking he got from Eddie Jones as a young player and memories of playing with legends like Sir Michael Jones, Jonah Lomu, Andrew Mehrtens, and Richie McCaw, and what he learned from each.
This is an incredibly emotional episode from one of the real good guys.
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Brief Summary
Steve Divine discusses rugby injuries, concussion awareness, and his transition to the fire service in this candid episode.
Key points
- The Impact of Concussions. Steve shares his personal struggles with concussions and their long-term effects on his life.
- Rock Bottom for Steve Divine. Steve describes the lowest point in his life after suffering from severe headaches for two years.
- Asking for Help. The speaker emphasizes the difficulty men face in seeking help for their struggles.
- The Need for Better Protocols. Highlighting the importance of proper medical protocols in sports to prevent injuries.
- Asking for Help. The speaker emphasizes the importance of seeking help, especially for men.
- Becoming an All Black. The speaker shares the emotional moment of being named an All Black.
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Episode highlights
- The Impact of ConcussionsSteve shares his personal struggles with concussions and their long-term effects on his life.“I was four days a week in bed, curtains drawn, lights out.”4:19Nov 8, 2025
- Rock Bottom for Steve DivineSteve describes the lowest point in his life after suffering from severe headaches for two years.“I just wanted the headaches to go away.”18:11Nov 8, 2025
- Asking for HelpThe speaker emphasizes the difficulty men face in seeking help for their struggles.“The hardest thing you’re ever going to do as a male is ask for help.”22:35Nov 8, 2025
- The Need for Better ProtocolsHighlighting the importance of proper medical protocols in sports to prevent injuries.“We need to get better.”31:47Nov 8, 2025
- Asking for HelpThe speaker emphasizes the importance of seeking help, especially for men.“It's all right to ask for help.”39:00Nov 8, 2025
- Becoming an All BlackThe speaker shares the emotional moment of being named an All Black.“It was just wow. Like instantly a thousand emotions.”54:32Nov 8, 2025
- Jonah Lomu's GenerosityA touching moment where Jonah Lomu lends his discman before a crucial flight.“Just borrow mine.”1:00:12Nov 8, 2025
- The Intensity of CompetitionCompeting for the same position as legends like Justin Marshall creates intense rivalry.“Halfbacks are competitive.”1:12:30Nov 8, 2025





