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Melinda and Judy | Criminal Podcast

November 30, 2022 / 25:28

This episode covers Melinda Dawson's adoption story, the illegal baby-selling operation of Dr. Thomas Hicks, and the tragic murder of her mother.

Melinda Dawson recounts a conversation with her mother, Judy Johnson, revealing that she was adopted after being sold by a clinic in Georgia. Melinda's parents faced challenges in traditional adoption processes, leading them to Dr. Hicks, who facilitated illegal adoptions.

Melinda discovers the truth about her birth and the scale of Dr. Hicks's operation, which sold at least 200 babies to couples across six states. She learns about the fake birth certificates and the dark side of her adoption.

The episode takes a dramatic turn when Melinda's mother is murdered, and her husband, Clarence Elkins, is wrongfully accused of the crime. Melinda struggles with the dual trauma of her mother's death and her husband's trial.

As the story unfolds, Melinda reflects on the impact of her adoption and the subsequent events that shattered her family. The episode ends with a cliffhanger, promising more of Melinda's story in the next episode.

TLDR

Melinda Dawson shares her adoption story and the tragic murder of her mother, revealing dark secrets about illegal baby-selling.

Episode

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Phoebe Judge: This episode contains  descriptions of violence and is not suitable for everyone. Please use discretion. Melinda Dawson: We took a little drive about
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a mile from our house and she parked  in this little park area and she said, "I'm not your birth mother, but I am your mother  and I love you as if you were my own daughter.
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But you came from a clinic in Georgia  and the doctor was selling babies, and so we paid money for you." [Music comes in.]
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I just didn't really understand what she was  telling me, except for the fact that she loved
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me and I was her daughter, regardless. Phoebe Judge: This is Melinda Dawson describing a conversation she had with her mother,
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Judy Johnson, in 1970, when  Melinda was just 7 years old. Had your mother had a hard time  getting pregnant herself? Had she
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and your father been trying to get  pregnant and not having any luck, and so kind of came to adoption through that? Melinda Dawson: Right. She was told that she
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was not able to have children because of an  assault that she had endured at a young age.
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Yes, they tried, and so she wanted a baby  very badly, and that's where I came in.
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Phoebe Judge: Melinda says her mother and father  had looked into adopting a baby through official
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channels, but it wasn't easy or cheap to meet  the requirements. Back in the '60s, you could be
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turned down if you'd ever been divorced, you often  needed to own your own home. And that's when they
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heard about a clinic in Georgia that didn't ask  any questions. Like a lot of people in and around
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Akron, Ohio, Melinda's father and grandfather  worked in the tire business. This is the home
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of Goodyear, Goodrich, Firestone. And someone at  Goodrich was acting as an intermediary between the
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clinic and people looking to bring home a newborn. [Music fades out.] Melinda Dawson: And let people know that if  they wanted to get a baby, that they should
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call this number and talk to Dr. Thomas Hicks  in McCaysville, Georgia. I guess they made the
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decision to be put on the list and didn't know  when they were going to get a call, just waited.
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She told me that the instructions were to get to  Georgia within 12 hours, once they were called,
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come in the front door, sign the birth  certificate, and head out the back door,
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and get out of town as quickly as possible. Phoebe Judge: That's exactly what Melinda's
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adoptive parents did in February  of 1963. For a long time, Melinda's mother wouldn't tell her how much it  cost. But eventually when Melinda was an adult,
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her mother told her they'd paid Dr. Hicks $1,000. Melinda Dawson: We had a discussion and she said,
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"We paid $1,000 for you," and back in  the 1960s, that was a lot of money. It didn't matter to me if they  would have paid a dollar for me,
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none of that made a difference to me, ever. Phoebe Judge: As Melinda grew up, she asked more questions. Her mother did  everything she could to answer them. They
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both assumed that Melinda was one of a few babies  who couldn't, for one reason or another. Be kept,
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and that when this happened, Dr. Hicks quietly  paired them with couples who couldn't conceive.
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They had no reason to think otherwise until  Melinda went to the county courthouse and
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McCaysville, Georgia, and asked for  a copy of her birth certificate. Melinda Dawson: I noticed that the clerk of  courts was very ... almost like a movie. There
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was this great big spotlight on her and she  was like, "Aha." There was an 'aha' moment
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for her. And there was a whole list of birth  certificates in this one particular file drawer,
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because when I told her that I was born at  the clinic, that aha moment came to her like,
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oh, this is one of the babies. She gave me my birth certificate and asked if I could talk with the  probate court judge, Linda Davis.
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Phoebe Judge: Judge Davis had already  noticed something very odd about the birth
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certificates coming out of the Hicks Clinic. Melinda Dawson: There's one telltale sign if
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you're a Hicks baby, and that is that your  birth certificate says that you were born
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at the Hicks Clinic. On the left side of it,  it'll say non-resident. Like you live in Akron
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and you're going to travel all the way down  to McCaysville to this little, little clinic
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and give birth and then go all the way back to  Akron. That's just absolutely ridiculous. So,
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when they filed the birth certificates, they  would put it as these people were at the clinic,
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gave birth, and they were a non-resident. That's  the telltale sign that you're a Hicks baby.
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[Music comes in.] Phoebe Judge: Talking with Judge Davis, Melinda discovered the scale of  the operation she was a part of. She's one of
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at least 200 babies that were illegally sold  to couples in six states from 1951 to 1964.
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And when your very arrival in the world  is marked with a fake birth certificate,
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you learn that you can't  believe everything that you see. I'm Phoebe Judge, this is Criminal. [Music up to full volume.]
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Melinda says she grew up really happy.  Her mother did everything in the world to make sure she felt like part of the family. Melinda Dawson: I have natural red hair, and
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so she started dying her hair red. She was very  funny. I've got to tell you, she was about 5 foot
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tall, maybe 100 pounds, and when I started growing  up, I'm 5 foot 10, nowhere near a hundred pounds,
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but she never made me, none of my family ever  made me feel like I was an outsider. I mean,
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they were my family, she was my mom,  I was her daughter. And proud of it. Phoebe Judge: Her mother and father eventually  divorced and her mother later remarried. In the
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second marriage her mother was actually able to  become pregnant in spite of what she'd been told,
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and she gave birth to Melinda's younger sister. [Music fades out.]. In 1981, Melinda got married herself to a  man named Clarence Elkins, and they had two
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children. And when she had children of her  own, she got curious about her biological
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family's medical history. There were some  health issues that couldn't be explained.
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By this time, Dr. Hicks was dead. The clinic was  long closed, and of course, there are no records.
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All anyone knew was what they'd been  able to piece together with the help of Judge Davis. And the more questions they  asked, the more complicated the story got.
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Melinda Dawson: Some of the parents that purchased  the babies were told that the mother had died,
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when in reality, the doctor was also  telling the mother that the baby had died,
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and he would take care of the funeral.  And then he would sell the baby. [Music comes in.] Phoebe Judge:
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Here's what we know about Dr. Hicks. Thomas J.  Hicks got his medical degree from Emory in 1917
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and opened the Hicks Community Clinic  in McCaysville, Georgia, in the 1940s, after completing a federal sentence for selling  drugs just over the border in Tennessee.
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That conviction cost him his medical license, but  only in the state of Tennessee. So he just crossed
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the border into Georgia and opened a new practice. The Hicks Community Clinic became a thriving
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abortion facility during a time when abortion  was illegal and birth control was basically
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nonexistent. Many of his patients were wealthy  out-of-towners, so much so that a private airstrip
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was built nearby so that the rich could fly  in and out for their appointments. The locals
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knew about the abortions too, but Dr. Hicks was  regarded as an upstanding figure. He was handsome
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and charming. His wife taught Sunday School at  First Baptist church. They were very well liked
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in town. One woman even told The New York Times,  "He gave the most terrific Halloween candy."
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Melinda Dawson: He did a lot of good things  for the town and so the townspeople are very...
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They hold him in a high regard, and  my mom did too, because she said, "Had he not given me you, I wouldn't have you,"  and so she held him in a really high regard. Now,
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we know a lot about Dr. Hicks over the years  that we've been doing our research, and yeah,
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he was a very good guy, but he had a dark  side as well. Once the practice of selling
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the baby and getting the money became  'on a roll,' as you can say, he profited,
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big time, on selling us to our parents. Phoebe Judge: Melinda believes that Dr. Hicks was purely profit-driven, but the truth is  we just don't know. Some of the adoptive parents
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were told the $1,000 payment covered the cost of  the biological mother's care. $1,000 back then
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comes out to about $8,000 today. But the only way  for the Hicks babies to figure out whether their
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biological mothers were helped or exploited  by Dr. Hicks would be to find them and ask.
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In May of 1997, an article came out in the  Akron Beacon Journal telling Melinda's story and
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describing the efforts by Judge Davis and another  Hicks, baby, Jane Blasio, to create a birth
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registry matching babies with biological mothers. [Music fades out.] Melinda Dawson: The majority of the  babies were sold to Akron couples because
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that was where the money was being made in the  rubber industry. And so when this kind of liaison
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between Dr. Hicks and the potential buyers,  that's where it was targeted. Either from, you
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worked at Goodrich, Goodyear, or Firestone, a lot  of babies' parents worked in those industries. So
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when it came out in the Akron Beacon Journal,  a lot of people still lived in the area.
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Phoebe Judge: And some of those people  were mad. Judge Davis told the LA Times,
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"There are some people who are very opposed to  this whole thing being brought to light. There's
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an air of protectiveness about Dr. Hicks." The  Hicks babies around Akron tried to work as a
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group to manage the story, but eventually they  splintered into two camps. Those who felt they
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should come up with one message and stick to  it. That faction called itself Silent Legacy,
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and those like Melinda and her mother  who said, "Hey, this is our story. We can talk about it however we like." Here  they are in The Maury Povich Show in 1998.
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[Applause fades in.] Maury Povich: Hi, everybody. Thank you. Today, we are talking to women who were all told  they were orphans. They were all adopted when
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they were babies. What they didn't know was that  they may have been sold illegally, on the black
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market. Judith is an adoptive mother who is here  with her daughter, Melinda. Give us a picture of
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exactly what happened, because you would go  down to this small town in Georgia, right?
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Judy: We walked in and then they wrote out the  birth certificate. They did not write it out in
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the mother's name, they wrote it out in my name. Maury Povich: So the name on the birth certificate
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is yours. Judy: Yes. Maury Povich: When it comes to parents. Judy: She never had her. I
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had had her. There's no way. Maury Povich: Was your daughter being born then, or had she already been  born? Judy: She had already been born.
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Maury Povich: How old was she at the time? Judy: She wasn't even a day old when we got
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there and started back. Maury Povich: Right. [Clip fades out.] Melinda Dawson: So after the show, the
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local news picked up on this and people would call  my mom and say, "Are you the lady that was on the
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TV?" Or, "Are you the lady that was on the news?  I've got something to tell you. How could you
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do something so illegal? You should be punished  for that." And we didn't know what that meant.
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Phoebe Judge: The threats were  from people who were saying, "How dare you do something like this?" Melinda Dawson: Yeah.
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Phoebe Judge: Primarily. Melinda Dawson: Yeah. Or: how dare you put Dr. Hicks in a bad light?
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I think that maybe we were kind of a target  because we were out there more and so accessible.
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And so that's when I told my mom, "We need to  have a watch put on our house." And that's what
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terrified me so much when I ... that was my first  thought when they told me she had been murdered,
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that it had something to do with the Hicks babies. Phoebe Judge: On June 7th, 1998, Melinda was at home when her  oldest son came to her and said that there were
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a lot of police cars outside their house. Melinda Dawson: I'm screaming at them,
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"What is going on?" I mean, you can't imagine  seeing police run out of the woods in full SWAT
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gear and running towards your house, and you  don't know where your husband and your oldest
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son are. And then they're coming through the front  door, instructing you to come outside. He said,
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"I'm going to tell you what's going on, but I  don't want to tell you in front of your boy."
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My youngest son was 12 at that time and my oldest  son was 15. The deputy asked me what my mother's
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name was, and I said, "Judy. Why?" Phoebe Judge: The deputy told Melinda that the police department  had gotten a call early that morning that Judy
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had been fatally stabbed inside her home. Melinda Dawson: This is all in one sentence,
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and he says his 6-year-old niece is  saying that it was her Uncle Clarence. Phoebe Judge: That's your husband. Melinda Dawson: Yep. I remember
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that feeling where you just kind of ball up  into a fetal position because that pain was
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unbearable, and I just screamed. You can't wrap  your head around that, you just cannot. And I
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remember snapping to, and saying, "You guys are  crazy. He would never have done something like
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that." Because they had him in handcuffs in  the back of a patrol car. So at that point,
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they took him and he never came back home. Phoebe Judge: Not only was Melinda's husband,
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Clarence Elkins, charged with  stabbing his mother-in-law to death, he was also charged with the rape, attempted  murder, and assault of Melinda's 6-year-old niece.
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Melinda Dawson: My niece was staying the  night with my mom on June 6th, Saturday night.
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After the attack, my niece had made a phone  call that was picked up by an answering machine.
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Her message to my mom's friend was  that somebody had killed her Mamaw, and she needed help. Phoebe Judge:
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The 6-year-old then went next door to ask for  help, and reportedly told the next door neighbor
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that the man who had assaulted her and killed  her grandmother looked like her Uncle Clarence.
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So not only was your mother  stabbed, but your niece could have been killed as well. Melinda Dawson: Yes, and
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I later come to find out that my mom was  not stabbed, but she had been so brutally
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beaten that it appeared to be like stab  wounds. That's hard. That's hard to say.
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Phoebe Judge: How do you even split your  brain enough at that moment to be able
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to process the fact that your mother  has been murdered and your husband is being taken away from her —? How do you  even function? Where does your mind go?
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Melinda Dawson: I cannot even explain  how that is, because it's such a surreal, spiritual event. Because you're back  and forth. "Oh my gosh, my mom," "oh my God,
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my husband," "oh my God, my niece," "oh my  God, my mom." It was horrible and horrendous.
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My first thought was, there's no way it's  him. I wondered if it had something to do
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with the Hicks adoption, because things were  getting crazy. And once your life goes public,
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you're game, you're a sitting duck for some  things. And I really thought and was terrified
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that they would be coming after me next. Phoebe Judge: It had only been two months since Melinda and  her mother appeared on The Maury Povich Show,
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and they'd been getting more and more angry  phone calls. And so this is where Melinda's
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mind went. She tried to process what  had happened to her mother and niece. She truly believed someone wanted to shut them  up and tried to get the police to consider what
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she was saying. But there just wasn't evidence of  any connection. It was a horrifying coincidence.
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And if it wasn't related to  Hicks, who did do it and why? What did you know about what  your husband had been doing
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the night... Before the murder  happened? Did you know, was he with you? Melinda Dawson: Well, yes, part of the night he  was with me. The other part, he had a bonfire
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in our front yard. He went to one of the local  watering holes with some of his friends. So he was
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never alone. And I've got to say, we were married  for 17 years at that point, right? And I know that
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there are people in this world that can manipulate  others to think that they're some way, and they're
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really not. But I mean, we were married at 18  years old. We basically grew up together. And I
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knew him in and out. And we didn't have a great  marriage, but he was not a violent, sadistic,
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serial killer like they made him out to be. I  mean, it was just ridiculous. I could not even ...
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I think that that may me ... what fueled my  anger the most, besides the fact that someone
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had actually done that to my mom and my niece.  The other part, they're not out there looking
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for the true killer. They're trying to put their  story together and make him guilty when he's not.
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Phoebe Judge: Did they have anything to  say that he was near your mother and niece?
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Melinda Dawson: No, nothing. Nope, we lived  an hour away. There was no physical evidence.
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There was an eyewitness, and she was 6 years  old, who said, "It looked like him, but I only
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seen him in the dark. I only seen the back of his  head." That was it. Yep. That was the evidence,
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the evidence. That was it. She said, and she  hadn't seen him for over a year, and she was 6
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and had been brutalized and traumatized. You could  tell that she wasn't sure because she kept saying,
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"Well, it was dark, and I only seen the back  of his head." And the prosecutor was like,
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"Well, thank God she doesn't remember." Phoebe Judge: This tore Melinda's family
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apart. Her sister wouldn't speak to her, and  no one wanted her anywhere near her niece.
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Clarence Elkins was charged with aggravated  murder, attempted aggravated murder, rape,
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and felonious assault. Melinda's niece testified  to what she'd seen. And Elkins' defense attorneys
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said he'd been in local bars until 2:30 a.m.,  and arrived home at 2:40 a.m., went for a
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walk with his wife, and then went to bed. Melinda Dawson: When I got on the witness
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stand to testify for him, wow. They tried to  make me look like the biggest liar and some
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dumb country hick that was standing by her man. Phoebe Judge: The jury deliberated for three days,
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and on June 4th, 1999, they reached a decision. Melinda Dawson: I watched the jury walk  in and I watched them look at Clarence,
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and I knew that it wasn't good. Phoebe Judge: How did you know that? Melinda Dawson: A lot of the men on the jury gave  him a look like, 'you're disgusting, you freak,'
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just hateful. Then a couple of the women jurors  were crying/ and the judge read the verdict, and
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he ultimately was sentenced to two life sentences,  guilty on three counts of rape and two counts of
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assault. And so I remember the prosecutor telling  me, "Well, you're not going to see your husband
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for at least 54 years." I remember looking into  the news camera and I said, "You want to bet?"
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[Music fades in.] Phoebe Judge: We'll have the rest of Melinda's story in our next episode. Melinda Dawson: My niece had said that
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it was not Clarence that was there  that night. She was just saying what everybody was telling her to say, what  everybody was expecting her to say.
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Episode Highlights

  • A Mother's Love
    Melinda's mother reassures her of her love despite the circumstances of her adoption.
    “I'm not your birth mother, but I am your mother and I love you.”
    @ 00m 21s
    November 30, 2022
  • The Cost of Love
    Melinda learns her adoptive parents paid $1,000 for her, a significant amount in the 1960s.
    “It didn't matter to me if they would have paid a dollar for me.”
    @ 03m 33s
    November 30, 2022
  • Tragedy Strikes
    Melinda's world shatters when she learns her mother has been murdered, and her husband is accused.
    “You can't wrap your head around that, you just cannot.”
    @ 15m 33s
    November 30, 2022
  • Surreal Reality
    Melinda describes the overwhelming experience of her mother's murder and her husband's arrest.
    “I cannot even explain how that is, because it's such a surreal, spiritual event.”
    @ 17m 53s
    November 30, 2022

Episode Quotes

  • I'm not your birth mother, but I am your mother and I love you.
    Melinda and Judy | Criminal Podcast
  • It didn't matter to me if they would have paid a dollar for me.
    Melinda and Judy | Criminal Podcast
  • You can't wrap your head around that, you just cannot.
    Melinda and Judy | Criminal Podcast
  • I cannot even explain how that is, because it's such a surreal, spiritual event.
    Melinda and Judy | Criminal Podcast

Key Moments

  • Mother's Love00:21
  • Adoption Cost03:33
  • Murder Shock15:33
  • Surreal Experience17:53

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