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I'm Phoebe Judge, host and co-creator of the podcast Criminal. All I've ever wanted to do since I was a little girl
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is ask people questions. I grew up in a radio family [music] in Chicago, and when I was 22, I moved to Mississippi to
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be the GF Coast reporter for Mississippi Public Broadcasting. [music] I basically
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lived in a house on the railroad tracks. I would record at night under a towel, but I was too cheap to turn the air
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conditioning on, so I would just be sweating constantly. I learned a lot. And then I came to North Carolina to
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work on a national public radio show called The Story with Dick Gordon. And [music] sometimes he let me take his
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seat. That's where I met Lauren Sporer. We decided one night that [music] we would create our own show. And the only
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thing that mattered is that we cared about the stories. That was it. If we [music] were curious about the stories,
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then we would do them. No one was going to tell us what to do. We called the show Criminal. [music]
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It started in 2014. Our first episode had about 50 listeners. It was about a murder and an [music] owl that was
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called Animal Instincts. And then 3 days later, we got a check from a woman in North Carolina for
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>> [music] >> $10. All it said was, "Keep going." So, we did. And now, 10 years later, we're
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still making these shows. And we're very thankful to all of you for listening and
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[music] for continuing to listen. And now on Patreon, we get to do more things like live events, live chats, behind the
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scenes photos. Anyway, thanks again for listening. We're going to [music] keep trying to do the best work we can.