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November 20, 2022 / 27:37

This episode covers Robin Woods' criminal past, his time in prison, and his journey of self-education through reading. It features guests Phoebe Judge and Daniel Gross.

Robin Woods recounts his experience of stealing office equipment in Cumberland, Maryland, in 1988, leading to a harsh 16-year prison sentence. He describes the brutal conditions at the Maryland Correctional Institute, where he faced violence from guards and participated in a prison riot.

During his incarceration, Robin struggled with literacy but eventually began to read extensively, starting with borrowed books from the prison library. He developed a passion for learning, leading to a correspondence with Mark Stevens, an editor at Merriam-Webster, where he pointed out errors in the encyclopedia.

Robin's determination to learn impressed prison officials, resulting in a deal that allowed him to reduce his sentence. After 18 years, he was released but faced challenges reintegrating into society.

In a poignant conclusion, Robin reflects on his past and the irony of experiencing a burglary in his own home, drawing parallels to his former life of crime.

TLDR

Robin Woods shares his journey from prison to self-education and eventual freedom, highlighting the transformative power of reading.

Episode

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[Inside a running car.] Robin Woods: This is the... We're on... What is this? Bedford Road.
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These are some businesses. This is a liquor store here. This is a Chessie Bank. They just built this not too long ago.
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City limits is right here, at this intersection of Bedford Road and Shades Lane.
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So, this is the place, over here on the right hand side, that I committed the breaking and
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enterings act. Phoebe Judge: This is Robin Woods. In November of 1988, he was 26 years old when he stole a car and drove to an office building
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in his hometown of Cumberland, Maryland. Robin is African American. Robin Woods: And that side door, there's a steel door with a glass window, and I just
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knocked the window out. And I stole some stuff: computers, some typewriters, some telephones.
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They were called Marlin Phone Systems. When I took this stuff through a place I was staying at, it was just a little shack.
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It wasn't much of a place, and it wasn't much furniture in there. And I had put all the stuff in there, then I abandoned the car, and I knew that I was
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going to be in trouble because I had what they said was $20,000 worth of office equipment.
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Well, what was I going to do with that? Phoebe Judge: Robin started trying to sell the stolen equipment as quickly as possible,
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offering it up for cheap. So, a few people knew he had it. And the next night, while he was playing pool, his plan fell apart.
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Someone turned him in. Robin Woods: Troopers came in. It was about six or seven of them.
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They came in the side door and came in the front door. I was standing there talking to a friend, and I seen them come through the door and
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I knew exactly who they was coming after. I knew they was coming after me. So, of course, there's no reason to fight six or seven state troopers.
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You go ahead and you just went on to jail. And a friend of mine ended up turning me in for the reward.
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He's since passed away, and there's no reason to throw any mud on him. When he passed away, oh, I didn't have any animosity against the man.
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Phoebe Judge: Robin was convicted of two counts of warehouse breaking and entering, a nonviolent
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felony. But he'd been arrested a half dozen times before. And because of prior convictions, he was sentenced harshly: 16 years at the notorious Maryland
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Correctional Institute, or MCI, in Hagerstown. He'd been there before, serving two years for firing a gun through a woman's window.
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But this time, he was going to be in much longer. Robin Woods: I think the words draconian...
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Well, I know the words draconian. To just take all those years for this crime, and I had a couple of other things that I've
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done prior to that, but nothing to justify the time that I got for it. But that's the way things are.
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I had to deal with it. I didn't have any choice. And they gave me the time, and I went to prison.
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And that was that. Phoebe Judge: Today, contributor Daniel Gross has the story of what happened to Robin during
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those years in prison, and how his world got smaller in every way. Except for one.
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I'm Phoebe Judge. This is Criminal. [Rock ballad-style instrumentals.] Daniel Gross: Robin described MCI Hagerstown as one of the worst prisons he ever set foot
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in, and he spent time in quite a few. The Baltimore Sun described it as "crowded" and "racially tense," and reported that numerous
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inmates complained of beatings by guards. Robin Woods: Basically, they would use sheer brutality to bring you into line.
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You could get beat severely for suddenly looking at an officer in the eye and standing up and
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back-talking him. Daniel Gross: One day, a group of prisoners decided enough was enough and refused to leave
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their cells until the prison warden agreed to meet with them. Robin Woods: The warden, instead of going down and finding out what the problem was,
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he sent his goon squad in and what they call an extraction team, and probably within 12
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hours time, they had beat probably 40 inmates. You didn't have to get beat up to be pissed.
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I mean, it was a night of terror. Daniel Gross: The next morning, the rest of the prison heard about the beatings, and at
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breakfast, a bunch of inmates attacked a group of guards and took the keys. Robin Woods: It was retribution time.
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We went out and tore the jail up. Daniel Gross: Were you afraid for your own safety?
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Robin Woods: Well, it's very disquieting. Because it's basically every man for himself.
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I armed myself to the best of my ability to defend myself and— Daniel Gross: What did you have?
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Robin Woods: Well, I had a, it's called a homemade knife, it's called a shank. Daniel Gross: According to the Baltimore Sun, the prison was filled with clouds of tear
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gas, and some guards were firing shotguns. Robin Woods: And I'll never forget the look of terror in their eyes, as well, because
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they had never, in their wildest imagination, imagined that they would lose their prison.
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Daniel Gross: Robin alleges that he was taken down to the prison basement and severely beaten.
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Robin Woods: The wonderful thing about it was I found out that day that I could take
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a weapon. They surrounded me, and one of them hit me in the ribs from the back and another one
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hit me in the kidneys. And I fell to the ground, and basically, they stomped the crap out of me.
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Daniel Gross: As Robin remembers it, when the Baltimore officers arrived to transfer
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him, he started shouting back at the Hagerstown guards. Robin Woods: I was telling the captain, "And you let those guys know in the basement they
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hit like a bunch of sissies." And then, I got down and start doing pushups. So, everybody knew I was nuts.
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Daniel Gross: But did you actually... I mean, were you proud of the riot? Robin Woods: Absolutely.
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Absolutely. Daniel Gross: Would you have done it again? Robin Woods: Absolutely.
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Daniel Gross: Robin was charged with helping to incite the riot, and seven years were added
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onto his sentence. He was transferred to the Maryland Correctional Adjustment Center, a supermax facility in
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Baltimore. And from that day on, Robin was officially classified as one of the most dangerous prisoners
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in Maryland. Robin Woods: And I don't claim anything, any such thing. I know dangerous people.
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Believe me, I'm not. There's nothing dangerous about me. Daniel Gross: But the people around you, were they murderers?
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Robin Woods: Yes. I've seen... people fighting each other with knives. I've seen people jump on — two or three people jump on one person with knives.
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I've seen people murder each other. I've seen the worst of what men can do to each other.
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[Driving drum and bass music.] Robin Woods: [Inside of a running car.] [Coughs.]
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Now, this is where I grew up at. Daniel Gross: You actually grew up in these buildings?
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Robin Woods: I grew up here. Yes. Daniel Gross: Robin is driving me around his hometown.
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When he was a kid, he lived at the Fort Cumberland Homes housing project. He says it was a mix of poor white and poor Black families.
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Robin Woods: This was a library. I used to go to this library all the time. Even though I couldn't read as a child, we would go in there and play.
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Daniel Gross: At first, Robin loved school, but he wasn't great at it. He never paid much attention to his teachers, and he says he got in trouble a lot for acting
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up and causing problems. Robin Woods: And I remember the teacher used to put me in the closet, in the coat closet.
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They decided to put me in special education. Daniel Gross: Robin was kept in special education for five years, through seventh grade.
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He remembers being told that someone like him didn't really need to learn things like
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math or reading. Robin Woods: Back in those days, it was just a place to put someone and you didn't have
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to deal with them. I would go around and pick up the attendance slips. Now, at the other end of the building here, right here to our right, is
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the cafeteria, and I used to go in the morning time, the local milk company would drop off
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crates of milk. And my job would be to go and stack the milk into the coolers, so at lunchtime the other
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students could have cold milk. Daniel Gross: So, you're saying that instead of getting an education here, you were basically
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doing the chores? You were doing the chores of the school. Robin Woods: Exactly.
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And that's how I got through junior high school. Daniel Gross: Robin didn't make it through high school.
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And when he was sent to prison, almost a decade later, he could barely read or write.
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He knew enough to get odd jobs and to read a menu, but not much else. Robin Woods: I had never read a book in my life, so—
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Daniel Gross: Really? Not even a kid's book? Robin Woods: Nothing. Not even Watch Spot Run.
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Daniel Gross: Robin's prison in Hagerstown was organized by floors, or tiers. The inmates were alone in their cells for most of the day, and he says, they'd sort
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of yell out and try to talk to each other. One day, a guy wound through the tiers with a cart yelling, "Library call."
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Robin Woods: And I was thinking to myself, "Well, why would I want a book?" Daniel Gross: Robin was skeptical, but he figured, "Why not?"
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He borrowed The Autobiography of Malcolm X and The Sicilian, a mafia novel by the author
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of The Godfather, Mario Puzo. The librarian slid them through the slot that was normally used for food.
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Robin Woods: Many, many words I had to skip over because... I couldn't read them.
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Daniel Gross: What did it feel like, staring at the page, only understanding some of the
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words and trying to figure that out? Robin Woods: It was hard at first, because I may have been grasping maybe 30%, 40% of
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what a page would say. But every time I would turn a page, I would become more confident that I was understanding
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more of what was going on in the book. I mean, it's like, "Wow, this is pretty good."
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Daniel Gross: Eventually Robin bought a dictionary from the prison commissary. He would copy words he didn't know into a notebook, then study them carefully.
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Robin Woods: But I remember reading that Sicilian and getting done, and I wept like a child.
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Because those people had lied to me. They had programmed me that, "Don't even try.
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You can't do it. You're not capable of doing it." And then once I did it, it was like, I could go to China, I could go to Rome, I could go
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to Greece, I could go to the Second World War, I could go to the Civil War, I could
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go to the moon. Daniel Gross: He started a small library in his cell. Other inmates sometimes asked to borrow his books, or for his help reading legal documents.
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Robin Woods: It was a marvelous thing. The whole world opened up. Even though I was confined in an institution, in a prison, in a building, in a cell, my
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mind was free, because the only thing I had to do was wait for the library man to come
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and bring me a book and I could escape. Daniel Gross: Robin tore through the books he could access in the library, and as he
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became more confident, he also became more ambitious. Robin Woods: I wanted to know about the world that I lived in.
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I wanted to know about Sir Isaac Newton and Socrates and Alexander the Great. Daniel Gross: In 2004, he ordered an encyclopedia from a Merriam-Webster catalog.
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It contained 2.5 million words, a gigantic book of 1,800 pages. Robin Woods: By the time that I got ahold of the Merriam-Webster's Desktop Collegiate
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Encyclopedia... I always give the whole thing out, because it's impressive for me.
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By the time I got to that point, I had probably read 500, 600 books. That's not hyperbole.
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That's the truth. Once I would find a subject, it would lead me to the next... It would all dovetail together.
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Daniel Gross: While most people open an encyclopedia looking for a specific thing, Robin just started
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anywhere and let one discovery lead him to the next. One day, he read an entry about the acquisition of Texas, and it didn't seem right.
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Robin Woods: I believe the reference was that the acquisition was acquired through the American
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and Mexican War, which of course, that happened after Texas became a state. And when I found it and I read it several times and I knew that it was wrong, I went
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and found that the chief editor, or the editor for the Merriam-Webster's Desktop Encyclopedia,
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and this guy's name was Mark Stevens. Daniel Gross: In November 2004, 15 years into Robin's sentence, he wrote a letter.
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"Dear Mr. Stevens, I'm writing to you at this time to advise you of a misprint in your fine
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collegiate encyclopedia." Robin Woods: I thought maybe they would think, "Well, how arrogant is this guy, sitting in
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a prison somewhere writing me to tell me that there was an error." [Bubbly electronic music.].
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Probably about a month later, I get a letter. I went and sat on the bunk, and I opened it up very gingerly because I didn't want to
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tear the envelope up real bad. And I read the letter. And Mr. Stevens congratulated me.
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First, he thanked me. I mean, a person who had basically taught myself to read and write, and I found that
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error. Daniel Gross: It's like getting an A in English class or something. Robin Woods: Absolutely.
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Yes, absolutely. It was getting an A+. [Bouncy electronic music continues.] Mark Stevens: This was the beginning of a real correspondence, and he informed me, I
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think fairly early on, that his ambition was to read the entire encyclopedia. Daniel Gross: Mark Stevens, editor of the Merriam-Webster Collegiate Encyclopedia.
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Mark basically assembled the book from scratch. Mark Stevens: And nobody before, or since, has ever told me that that was their ambition
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for that book. Daniel Gross: Within days of his first letter, Robin caught more mistakes.
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The entry for William the Conqueror mentioned Harold I when it should've said Harold II.
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And a different entry said Uthman ibn Affan was the third caliph of the Umayyad dynasty,
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but Uthman ibn Affan died five years before the dynasty began. Over the course of two years, Robin caught more than a dozen mistakes that were corrected
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in later editions. Mark started to think of him as a freelance editor. There's actually a history of this.
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Back in the late 1800s, a famous prisoner in England was one of the main contributors
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to the Oxford English Dictionary. Anyway, Robin and Mark debated whether Lincoln deserved credit for freeing the slaves.
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They discussed whether Cleopatra was Greek or African. Mark Stevens: He would move through a lot of subjects that you might find improbable
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for an incarcerated person with, who I learned had, a ridiculously small amount of education,
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of formal education. Daniel Gross: Robin may not have graduated from high school, but he was an incredibly
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close reader. He'd read hundreds of books by this point, and he'd flipped through the pages checking
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and cross-checking information, and then writing to Mark, lots and lots of letters going back
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and forth. And in all that time, Mark did not know what Robin was in prison for.
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He never asked, which seems funny, but maybe some part of him just didn't want to know.
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[Staccato violin music.] In early 2006, Robin was transferred to a different prison, which happened a lot.
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But this time, they told him he wouldn't be allowed to take his books. Robin Woods: Usually, they give you your property when you get there, and they had had all my
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stuff. So I immediately went on a hunger strike within three or four days. Daniel Gross: Robin wrote to Mark, "I need my books, and I cannot afford to replace them."
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He refused to eat until he got to speak with the Maryland Commissioner of Corrections,
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Frank Sizer. Robin Woods: And I went from 220 pounds, roughly, to 147 pounds. You could see the bones in my face, the bone structure.
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Mark Stevens: I got a very distressed letter from him. And he had been thrown into solitary confinement again — far from the first time, I believe.
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But on this occasion, they had removed and evidently destroyed his books, his own private
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library, including the encyclopedia. And this was the most distress he had ever indicated in a letter.
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And in response to that, I looked for information about the institution and who its wardens
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might be, and I sent a letter to the warden who I thought I had identified. Daniel Gross: What did you include in that letter?
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I mean, what was your goal? Mark Stevens: I was trying to convince them of how really cruel, unnecessarily cruel,
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it was that his library had been taken away from him. Robin Woods: Mr. Sizer came.
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He had asked me, one of the questions he asked me after he asked about my health and a couple
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other things, and told me what he was going to do... He was very curious, and he had a curious look on his face, and he said, "Who is this
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Mark Stevens?" And I said, "Oh, he's a friend of mine that works for—" He says, "Well, what—" I said,
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"He works for Merriam-Webster." And he asked me, "Well, what do you do? Do you work for them?"
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And I was like, "Well, no, I don't work for them. But I found some errors in their Merriam-Webster's Desktop Encyclopedia."
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Then I filled him into the relationship that me and Mark had had over the years.
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Mark Stevens: It was a very few days after that, that I got another letter from Robin.
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And he was not only getting his books restored, but he had been informed that he was on the
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road to freedom. Daniel Gross: Mark and Robin didn't piece this together until later, but here's what
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they figured out. The commissioner of Corrections was impressed that Robin was so determined, not only in
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his hunger strike, but also in his obsession with learning. He offered Robin a deal.
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Robin Woods: Mr. Sizer said, "If you do everything that I tell you to do, and you walk through
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the door, I'll give you your good days back, but you have to be infraction-free for a whole
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year. And I'll give you your good days back, and I'll let you go home." Daniel Gross: In short, even though Robin had once participated in a riot that left
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a dozen guards injured, the commissioner was willing to let him out early. Robin had five years left to serve, but once he got his so-called good days back, there
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was just one year left. Robin Woods: It was the craziest thing in the world to walk out of the prison gates
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after all those years and be free. Daniel Gross: Eighteen years had passed. He went to prison as a 27 year old and left when he was 44.
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Robin was released with around $50 in cash, the minimum required by law. He knew about Julius Caesar and the Mexican-American War, but he couldn't remember how to count
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money. He had trouble finding work back home in Cumberland. He couldn't pay rent.
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And all this time he stayed in touch with Mark. Every so often, they talked on the phone.
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Mark Stevens: Of course, I have no dependents myself. There's nobody who I'm supporting in the world.
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Daniel Gross: Eventually, Mark decided to send Robin a little bit of money. The first time it was a loan, but then he sent a bit more and a bit more.
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And eventually, Mark started thinking of it as a gift, a gift that added up to thousands
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of dollars over the years. And remember, they'd never even met. If you had a family of your own, do you think that this story would have happened?
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Mark Stevens: No, probably not. I don't think people tend to put themselves out in a personal way, maybe, when they have
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families of their own. Daniel Gross: But you must've had friends that would have said, "What if this is a bad
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idea?" Mark Stevens: My friends didn't know I was doing it. My friends didn't know.
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Daniel Gross: How did that happen? How did it happen that, for so many years, a relatively significant part of your life
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was invisible to your friends? Mark Stevens: I don't know. I don't know. There's just things like, I just don't necessarily tell people everything about.
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I'm not sure if I've ever told one single soul how much I might've sent to Robin.
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They would struggle to believe it, actually, I suspect. [Sweet, floaty orchestral music.]
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Daniel Gross: Here it is. Stevens. Robin Woods: OK. Should we knock on the door?
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Mark Stevens: Oh my goodness. You must be Robin. Robin Woods: How are you? Daniel Gross: After a decade of phone calls, Robin finally met Mark at his house in Massachusetts.
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Robin Woods: Give me a hug! Oh, it's nice to meet you. Mark Stevens: Great to meet you.
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[Emotional.] It really is. Robin Woods: I told you I was going to cry, and doggone it...
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Mark Stevens: [Laughing.] Oh, no. Not really. Anyway. Well, great to meet you. Robin Woods: I didn't know what we was going to do, so I brought a couple of different
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outfits. But I'm going to tell you, the only way I could tell you, I've never met you till today,
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but I love you very much. You're a good man. Mark Stevens: That's really sweet of you.
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Robin Woods: I'm not surprised you have a lot of books. I'm not... Mark Stevens: [Laughs.]
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You see, all behind the piano there is all stacked books. Robin Woods: I remember in prison, again, a lot of people that had a little bit of means,
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they would have five or six pair of $100 tennis shoes, and I would have a whole cell full
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of books. But I had my sanity because of it. I'd have went nuts. Mark Stevens: Yeah.
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Yeah. Robin Woods: I would have went nuts. Mark Stevens: It is impossible to imagine being in there and not having...
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God, and not having printed material and not having stuff to read. I just can't — it's just unimaginable, just unimaginable.
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Daniel Gross: Over the weekend, Robin and Mark went for a hike and went to see a play.
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They even visited the house where Emily Dickinson grew up. And then, Robin drove seven hours back to Cumberland.
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When he got home, he was in for a shock. One of his windows was hanging open. Someone had broken in.
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The irony of the situation wasn't lost on Robin. Robin Woods: No one has ever broken into my residence and robbed me, so what poetic justice
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is that? That now I know what it feels like to be invaded, to have someone to come into your home and
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steal your meager possessions. Daniel Gross: What does it feel like? Robin Woods: It feels like you've been violated and you're helpless to do anything about it,
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and now, the old me... But now I have to depend on the law to deal — to get satisfaction.
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Because, certainly, I'm not going to go out and retaliate because someone stole some material
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possessions. Daniel Gross: What would you want to happen to the person that did this?
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Robin Woods: Well... They need to go to jail. There's probably a lot of people that would look at this and say, "Well, this man spent
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years in jail," but they need to go to court and answer up for it. [Melancholy guitar music.].
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But things happen. Now I know what it feels like to be robbed. And maybe if I would have felt this way before, I would have never robbed anybody in the first
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place. [Laughs.] Daniel Gross: Robin turned 54 this year. He still has a copy of the Merriam-Webster Collegiate Encyclopedia, but he told me he
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doesn't really read much anymore. In prison, books connected Robin to the outside world, but now he's in it.
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Robin Woods: I actually do have time to read, but to my shame, I don't. I don't read as much as I should.
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Daniel Gross: I called Mark last week to check some facts, and he told me that after 24 years,
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he was just laid off by Merriam-Webster. He's 66, and he spent years working on encyclopedias, but people just aren't reading them anymore.
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[Melancholy guitar music continues.] Phoebe Judge: Daniel Gross. Criminal is produced by Lauren Spohrer and me.
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Episode Highlights

  • A Journey Through Prison
    Robin Woods reflects on his harsh 16-year sentence and the brutal conditions he faced.
    “I think the words draconian...”
    @ 02m 49s
    November 20, 2022
  • The Power of Reading
    In prison, Robin discovers the joy of reading, transforming his life and perspective.
    “It was a marvelous thing. The whole world opened up.”
    @ 11m 20s
    November 20, 2022
  • A Life-Changing Letter
    Robin writes to the editor of Merriam-Webster about an error, sparking a unique friendship.
    “It was getting an A+.”
    @ 14m 16s
    November 20, 2022
  • Robin's Love for Books
    In prison, books were Robin's lifeline, connecting him to the outside world.
    “But I had my sanity because of it.”
    @ 23m 19s
    November 20, 2022
  • A Poetic Irony
    After years of crime, Robin experiences being robbed for the first time.
    “What poetic justice is that?”
    @ 24m 01s
    November 20, 2022
  • The Feeling of Violation
    Robin describes the emotional impact of being robbed.
    “It feels like you've been violated and you're helpless to do anything about it.”
    @ 24m 21s
    November 20, 2022
  • A Shift in Perspective
    Robin reflects on how being robbed changed his view on crime.
    “Now I know what it feels like to be robbed.”
    @ 25m 11s
    November 20, 2022
  • Reading in the Outside World
    Robin admits he doesn't read as much now that he's free.
    “To my shame, I don't.”
    @ 25m 40s
    November 20, 2022

Episode Quotes

  • I love you very much.
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  • But I had my sanity because of it.
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  • It feels like you've been violated and you're helpless to do anything about it.
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  • Now I know what it feels like to be robbed.
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  • To my shame, I don't.
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Key Moments

  • Breaking and Entering00:35
  • Prison Riot06:28
  • Rediscovering Reading11:16
  • Meeting Mark22:19
  • Love for Books23:19
  • Poetic Justice24:01
  • Realization of Robbery25:11
  • Reading Shame25:40

Words per Minute Over Time

Vibes Breakdown