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The Shell Game | Criminal Podcast

December 01, 2022 / 15:43

This episode features magician Whit Haydn, also known as Pop, discussing the shell game, con games, and the legacy of Soapy Smith.

Whit Haydn shares his background as a magician and his experiences growing up in Clarksville, Tennessee. He explains the shell game, emphasizing that it is a con game where participants are swindled.

The episode takes place at The Magic Castle in Hollywood, a private club for magicians. Haydn describes its unique features, including a seance room and various hidden tricks.

Catherine Spude, an anthropologist, discusses Soapy Smith, a notorious con artist known for his soap scam and the shell game. She highlights his impact on American organized crime.

The episode concludes with reflections on the myth of Soapy Smith and the nature of trickery in both magic and con games, as Haydn draws parallels between magicians and con artists.

TLDR

Magician Whit Haydn discusses the shell game and con artist Soapy Smith's legacy at The Magic Castle.

Episode

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Whit Haydn: Any technology that is sufficiently  unknown looks like magic. [Music comes in.]
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Arthur C. Clarke said that. Well, it's the  same thing, really. We have a technology
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that people are not knowledgeable  about. The technology of deception. Phoebe Judge: This is Whit Haydn. He goes by  Pop. And he's a professional magician living in
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Los Angeles. He's almost 70 now and started  doing magic when he was only 10 years old,
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growing up in Clarksville, Tennessee. Whit Haydn: I was a preacher's kid, and this
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old man moved into our neighborhood. He was in his  80s, but he'd been a gambler his whole life, back
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in the '20s and so. And he was a total reprobate.  He drank whiskey right out of a bottle and chain
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smoked these little black cigars and cussed like a  sailor. And being a preacher's kid in Clarksville,
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Tennessee, naturally I gravitated toward his  society. And he taught me a lot of things, and
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one of them was... He taught me some little magic  tricks, but he also taught me the shell game.
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Phoebe Judge: Pop Haydn is one of  the greatest shell game operators in the world. It's a game you've probably seen  before. It requires three half-walnut shells,
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and you put a little pea or a little rubber ball  underneath one of them and mix the shells around.
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The person watching tries to keep up with you,  and then guess which shell the pea is under.
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People bet on it. Whit Haydn: Yes, and that's a mistake. Phoebe Judge: Why? Because  you'll never get it right?
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Whit Haydn: You cannot win. It's a swindle.  It's a swindle. It's a sleight of hand swindle,
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but you can't beat it by watching it. [Music fades out.] Phoebe Judge: Pop Haydn invited us to meet him at  The Magic Castle in Hollywood, which we were very
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excited about because it's a private club for  magicians only. It's in an old mansion dating
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back to 1909, and has been a Mecca for magicians  since 1963. We went during the day, so we had the
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place to ourselves and could wander around slowly.  It's like a maze. There's a secret door hidden in
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a bookcase, five different bars, lounges, a dining  room with a $42 pork chop and very strict dress
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code, and also a classroom where pop teaches  what he calls 'a school for scoundrels.' And
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sometimes he teaches a class specifically to  teach police officers how to catch con men.
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Whit Haydn: They're still playing these games  on the streets today. So the police need to
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know as much as they can about it, so that  they can keep an eye on it. And we like to
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let them know that most of these gangs are not  dangerous. They're crooks, but they're usually
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not terrible crooks. But the police need to know  how — it's very hard for them to break up the
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games or to know how to approach the games  or even know what's going on. For example,
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most people think that it's just one guy behind  the table, taking all the people at the table.
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Actually everybody at the table is in on it.  There's only one sucker at the table at a time.
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[Music comes in.] If you don't know who it is, it's probably you. [Laughs.] Phoebe Judge: At The Magic Castle, big
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theaters give way to small theaters and then tiny  theaters where you can watch the magicians very
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close up. The largest performance space in The  Magic Castle is called the Palace of Mystery.
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Will you just tell me again, what's it called? Whit Haydn: The Palace of Mystery. That was
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the Parlor of Prestidigitation.  This is the Palace of Mystery. I'm coming back around this way. These  are all the dining rooms. This is our
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seance room. Phoebe Judge: What is this? Whit Haydn: This is our seance room. We have
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seances in here to contact Houdini.  We have seances almost every night. We always get him... Because  it's a magic castle of course,
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and this place is rigged to the hilt  to replicate a spiritualist seance that you might've seen in the '20s. Phoebe Judge: It's rigged in here?
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Whit Haydn: It's rigged in here. Oh yes. Things  float, the table rises and floats around,
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and all kinds of neat things happen. Phoebe Judge: What happens when Houdini shows up? [Music fades out.]
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Whit Haydn: Oh, well, you know, you hear his  voice... It's his real voice, actually. And all
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kinds of mysterious appearances and apparitions  and movements and things. It's very exciting.
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Phoebe Judge: It's full of tricks like this.  And every night, people come to deceive one
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another and be deceived. A secret button under  a bar makes an owl screech. There's a piano
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that's haunted by a ghost named Irma. Irma will  immediately begin playing any song you request.
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The walls of The Magic Castle are jam-packed  with portraits of magicians, past and present.
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Some have requested to have their ashes  hidden in the frames of their own portraits,
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and The Magic Castle agreed. So there are eight of  these, as Pop calls them, 'permanent residents.'
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And he takes us to the portrait of Jefferson  Randolph Smith, also known as Soapy Smith.
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Whit Haydn: He was one of the  first true American gangsters. Phoebe Judge: So why would you have a gangster's  picture in The Magic Castle? Whit Haydn: Because
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of his facility with the shell game. Phoebe Judge: This is the man we came to hear
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about. The magicians of The Magic Castle honor one  of the earliest American organized crime bosses
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and con men, because he was also an absolute  master of the shell game. He revolutionized the
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technique and made himself quite rich off  of other people's money in the process.
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[Music comes in.] When you start asking questions about Soapy Smith, everything begins to bleed together in strange  ways: magicians teaching police officers,
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crooks teaching magicians, and a very blurry line  between a delightful trick and a dirty one.
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I'm Phoebe Judge. This is Criminal. [Music up full for a few seconds.] I wasn't sure if I was allowed to ask a magician  how the shell game works. But Pop says the shell
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game is not a magic trick, it's a con game. Whit Haydn: What makes it really a con game is
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that there are other people involved that you  don't realize are on his side, and they help
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you make mistakes and help you get involved,  and that's where it becomes a con game. You're
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being swindled by the people around you without knowing it. But the actual sleight of hand, what
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he would do that was very... When he was ready  to kill somebody, he would reach in his pocket,
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take some money out and get a second pea. And then  he would show the shells all empty and show the
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pea on the table, but he had a pea in his hand. So when he set the shells back down, he would load
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that pea under one of them as he was setting it  back down, and he showed a pea under the first
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shell. And he would move it around and steal it  out and throw it on the floor amongst the peanut
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shells and sawdust. And it would just be lost. But  there's that one pea still under a shell that he
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has never touched. So nobody would ever guess that  shell. And they would go for the other two shells,
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and that's where he put the ax to their necks. Phoebe Judge: This was Soapy Smith's innovation
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to the game: the addition of a second pea.  And that's how it's done to this day. It's
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a felony in California: larceny by trick.  And just last month, a New York man named
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Andrew Jones was arrested for the 17th time in  30 years for scamming people out of their money
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with a version of the shell game called the  Three-Card Monte. It's amazing to think that
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we're still falling for these games today,  forking over our cash to charming strangers.
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Soapy Smith didn't stop at the shell game. He  also ran a famous soap scam. It's what got him
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the nickname Soapy. [Music fades out.] Catherine Spude: Well, what he would do is he  and some confederates would gather a crowd and he
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would start wrapping up bars of just plain soap. Phoebe Judge: This is Catherine Spude,
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an anthropologist and historian who  studies the American West. She has a book about Soapy called That Fiend in Hell. Catherine Spude: And as he's doing it,
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he would wrap one of them in a $5 bill before  he wrapped it up into the colored paper.
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And he said, "Now for a dollar  apiece, anybody who wants to can come up here and pick out which one it is  that has the $5 bill in it." So he'd go through
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this rigmarole and someone in the crowd would  say, "I can do it. I can do it." And sure enough,
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it turned out that person picked out the $5 bar  of soap. And so Soapy would go through the thing
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again. But it turned out that the first guy who  got it was usually one of his confederates.
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[Music comes in.] So that's the way he made his early fortunes, was just conning people by making them believe  that they could win $5 from a bar of soap.
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Phoebe Judge: This presence of an accomplice,  or a set of people who are in on it with you,
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is the most important feature of a con game. And  leading people to believe they're smarter than
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you — that's the real confidence trick. Whit Haydn: We call them confidence games
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because they're built on the idea that I put my  confidence in the sucker. A real confidence game
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can only be done with somebody who has  cupidity in his soul. Somebody that is larcenous in his soul. Swindles, you can  do a swindle on anyone. You can swindle
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some old lady out of her savings. But that's  not the same as a confidence game. Confidence
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game's where you make somebody think they  have an unfair advantage on somebody else.
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They're willing to take that unfair advantage  of somebody else, and then they get taken.
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Phoebe Judge: Soapy Smith traveled all  over the American West with his men, running all kinds of scams, like setting up  a fake telegraph office where no messages
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were actually sent or received. They'd just  take your money and never send the message.
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[Music ends.] He had a fake army recruitment office where his men would steal a  recruit's wallet right out of his pants while
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he was being checked out by the doctor. He was  making a lot of money and often used it to pay
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the police, politicians, and judges to leave  him alone and let him do what he wanted.
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This corruption was so well known that Soapy was  often included in political cartoons. Catherine's
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favorite is from the Rocky Mountain News in 1892.  In it, Soapy's in the middle of a group of men,
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sitting around a table. The men seem  to be arguing or discussing something, doing business of some sort. We see the  governor of the state of Colorado at the time,
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some candidates for mayor, and the sheriff. Catherine Spude: Soapy is front and center,
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is standing up, and appears to be directing  everything. But it's my opinion that one reason
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Soapy was chosen for that role in the cartoons  is because he's wearing a beard. At the time,
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beards were seriously out of fashion and it makes  him a good person to caricature if you're drawing
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political cartoons. In a way, Soapy became  the symbol of the underworld for Denver,
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simply, I think, because he had the beard. Phoebe Judge: When the Klondike gold rush hit,
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Soapy moved from Denver to Skagway, Alaska,  where he opened a saloon that people called
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'the real city hall.' And as the story goes,  in 1898, a miner traveling through Skagway
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was conned out of his gold by Soapy's men. Catherine Spude: The townspeople hear of it, and
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they've had enough of Soapy.  They're going to take over. [Music comes in.] Frank Reed, who was one of the surveyors
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of the town, has a gunfight, basically. The  popular story is that there's kind of a gunfight
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and Soapy... Both of them are shot, Soapy dies  immediately, and Frank Reed takes another 12 days
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to die. And through the death of Soapy... Skagway  has no more crime [laughs], basically. That's
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the way the legend went. Phoebe Judge: Catherine Spude says Soapy Smith has just become more and more  mythic in our imaginations over the last 118
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years. Stories circulate about his incredible  generosity, that he was the kind of guy who built
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drinking troughs for thirsty homeless dogs and  passed out turkeys on Thanksgiving. And the more
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these stories were repeated, the more important  Soapy became. By the 1950s, we were calling him
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the Robin Hood of America. But Catherine Spude  says that when you actually do the research,
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you find that Soapy Smith was just a handsome,  smooth-talking guy who stole a lot of money from
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a lot of people. The classic confidence man. [Music fades out.] Pop Haydn doesn't deny that Soapy Smith did  a lot of terrible things, but he says, isn't
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there something fascinating about someone who was  so creative about it? Every summer, on July 8th,
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the magicians of The Magic Castle gather at  9:15 p.m., the approximate time Soapy was shot,
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to make the same toast: Here's to Soapy's ghost. Whit Haydn: I believe that magic is really kind of
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a celebration of the archetype of the trickster.  Brains over brawn. The trickster is a character
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like Bugs Bunny... [Music comes in.] Who's always being hunted by a guy  with a gun, a human being with a gun,
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but he always outsmarts you. In fact, it's  so easy to outsmart that he doesn't even
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run away. He could get away at any time, but he  sticks around. Why? For the joy of manipulating
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and making a fool out of Elmer. He enjoys  playing with it. And the magician is kind
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of a celebration of that part of us that uses  our brains to survive and trickery to survive.
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The difference is the con man, he puts the  mask on his face and never takes it off.
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He'll be the sorcerer, or he'll be the mind  reader, or he'll be the honest politician,
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or the sincere salesman. He'll be all kinds  of things. But that mask has to stay on
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his face all the time. A magician puts on the mask and then lets it slip all the time,
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where he's winking at you out of it. You always  know that he's screwing with you somehow,
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but he's just doing it for the fun of it. [Music comes up full for a few seconds.]
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Episode Highlights

  • The Shell Game Explained
    Whit Haydn reveals the secrets behind the shell game and why it's a con.
    “You cannot win. It's a swindle.”
    @ 01m 31s
    December 01, 2022
  • Soapy Smith's Legacy
    Soapy Smith, a notorious con man, is honored at The Magic Castle for his mastery of deception.
    “Isn't there something fascinating about someone who was so creative about it?”
    @ 13m 07s
    December 01, 2022

Episode Quotes

  • You cannot win. It's a swindle.
    The Shell Game | Criminal Podcast
  • If you don't know who it is, it's probably you.
    The Shell Game | Criminal Podcast
  • Isn't there something fascinating about someone who was so creative about it?
    The Shell Game | Criminal Podcast

Key Moments

  • Childhood Influences00:21
  • The Shell Game01:08
  • The Magic Castle01:44
  • Soapy Smith05:08
  • Con Games06:16
  • Trickster Archetype13:27

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