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how do you even think about starting it I always say I there are certain people I meet in the world who see a problem
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and they say oh that sucks right and then there's certain people I meet in the world who see a problem and they say
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well if I don't do something about it then who is going to and you are so clearly one of those people where did
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you even I mean what was what was your background before this I started as a debt collector right and then I was a
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retail manager so I was at poed sunglasses selling sunglasses and so you know you got customer service there and
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then you learn how to use t uh skills from um collection that help you to build information about people yeah and
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so which I love because I mean none nothing that I'm doing is my like trained formal background right but I
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but I think that's what's so great is I think that so many people want to do something bigger something more
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impactful but they're like well I don't I don't know how or I wasn't trained or that's not my background and I'm like
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that doesn't nobody wakes up one day and is like I'm the expert you make yourself
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the expert right