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How Is Her Cause Of Death Undetermined?!

May 29, 2025 / 01:49

This episode discusses the discrepancies between two autopsy reports of a victim, focusing on the findings of Dr. Howard and Dr. Carl Wigran. Key topics include the injuries noted in both reports, including abrasions, sharp force wounds, and contusions.

Dr. Wigran's report highlights four abrasions on the upper body, including a shoe print on the chest and parallel marks suggesting bindings. He also notes 18 sharp force wounds, primarily on the hands and lower arms, indicating defensive actions by the victim.

In contrast, Dr. Howard's original report lacks details on many of the injuries found by Dr. Wigran, such as the black eye and extensive contusions. The episode emphasizes the stark differences in the findings, suggesting they may pertain to different victims.

The discussion raises questions about the determination of the manner of death, given the severity of the injuries documented in the second autopsy.

TLDR

Two autopsy reports reveal shocking discrepancies in a murder case.

Episode

1:49
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We actually got our hands on both Dr. Howard's original autopsy and the new report which was done by a guy named Dr.
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Carl Wigran. And Brit comparing these two reports, it's like they're not even talking about the same body. On her
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upper body alone, Dr. Wigan notes four abrasions, including what looks like a shoe print on her chest and parallel
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marks consistent with bindings. There are 18 sharp force wounds, 16 of which are concentrated on her hands and lower
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arms as if she was trying to like defend herself. And there are 50 contusions also consistent with defensive wounds,
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including a black eye. And on her lower half, he notes six abrasions, including a shoe print on her left thigh, nine
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sharp force wounds, and 48 contusions consistent with defensive wounds, which is
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like wild to me that we're still saying undetermined undetermined manner of death. It It like defies logic to me.
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And like listen, Dr. Howard's report talked about like some defects like on her hands and fingers. He points out
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some like cut like defects on her left hand and thumb like four of those. And then obviously he like notes like her
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the wound where she's cut in half. And he makes a note of a stab wound on her thigh which which appears in both
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reports. But there's like shoe prints on her thigh, shoe prints on her chest. Dude, he had nothing about her having a
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black eye. He had nothing about her like the injuries on her lower arms or her legs. And what sticks out to me is like
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the sheer enormity of the wounds in this second autopsy compared to the first. Like again, it feels like you're looking
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at reports for two different victims. Yeah.

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Episode Highlights

  • Inconsistent Autopsy Reports
    The two autopsy reports present drastically different findings about the same body.
    “It's like they're not even talking about the same body.”
    @ 00m 09s
    May 29, 2025
  • Defensive Wounds
    The second report reveals numerous defensive wounds, suggesting a struggle.
    “There are 50 contusions consistent with defensive wounds.”
    @ 00m 32s
    May 29, 2025
  • Shocking Findings
    The sheer enormity of the wounds in the second autopsy is alarming.
    “It feels like you're looking at reports for two different victims.”
    @ 01m 46s
    May 29, 2025

Episode Quotes

  • We're still saying undetermined manner of death.
    How Is Her Cause Of Death Undetermined?!
  • It defies logic to me.
    How Is Her Cause Of Death Undetermined?!
  • It feels like you're looking at reports for two different victims.
    How Is Her Cause Of Death Undetermined?!

Key Moments

  • Defensive Injuries00:35
  • Frustration00:59
  • Dramatic Discrepancies01:46