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what is Karen's memory I don't know because I will say again first we get this story and it might have been her
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lawyer saying this was an accident she doesn't remember but we have people who were initially with her the two women in
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the car saying something to the effect of of of her giving them a statement I don't even remember going to Brian's
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like I last thing I remember was being at the waterfall like I don't remember last night then she has a story a memory
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so oh and in the first story by the way she had didn't plan to go to Brian's even or I guess the second story when
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she remembered that they were going to go there I don't know yeah it was like I was just going to drop him off and leave
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anyway because I was having stomach issues right I'm going to drop them off I'm going to leave I'm having stomach
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issues and then the second time around it's her story is and this is what she told Nightline was I didn't know if we
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were invited I didn't actually again we don't know Brian Albert personally I didn't hear him invite me or invite John
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so we're going there but I didn't want to just like walk into the house like of someone I don't know so understand yeah
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get it so she said I told John like go in and make sure it's cool for us to be here so she said she's waiting in the
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car and waiting in the car and he's not coming and not coming and so then she finally gets pissed and is like oh he
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just ditched me and forgot that I'm sitting here waiting for him and so she leaves do I love that the story changed
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absolutely not do I understand they're already having problems can you picture her leaving that voicemail when she
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thinks he ditched her while she's waiting outside for him yeah those connections could totally be made and I
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want to go back and look at the situation where it is John texting Jennifer mccab to coordinate the meeting
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up at Brian Albert's house like after the bar I think some people on that face would go well wait a minute like if
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Karen and John had these sort of issues about these things she's claiming in this voicemail like John texting you
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know another woman even in Friendly like Hey we're all having a party come back to my house like you could see where
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that might escalate right in a in a in a drunken state where it's like you went into this house you didn't come back you
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were texting this other person like this other woman I think that like right to your point like that could all feed into
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I'm going to make these nasty voicemails and then peace out and you're you're drunk we know you nothing is better with
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alcohol yeah no and late at night so so she claims that she left that she was trying to text and call him she ends up
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falling asleep on the couch and then it's 4:30 in the morning when she again wakes up realizes he's not there she
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goes to get his niece to call Jennifer McCabe and then you know everything else is pretty much the same