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She wants to give you a ... 'Thank You' Gift | Crime Junkie AF

May 21, 2024 / 04:09

This episode discusses the investigation surrounding the death of John O'Keefe, focusing on key figures like Michael Proctor and Julie Albert. The conversation highlights text exchanges between Proctor and Albert, raising questions about their relationship and potential motives. The timeline of events on the night of John's death is scrutinized, including testimonies about who was present and when.

Michael Proctor, the lead investigator, is mentioned in relation to text messages with Julie Albert, who is connected to Brian Albert. These messages suggest a close relationship that could raise concerns about the integrity of the investigation. The episode questions the implications of these communications, especially after John's death.

Julie Albert's presence during the incident is debated, with conflicting testimonies about whether she and her husband were at Brian Albert's house that night. The defense points out inconsistencies in witness statements, particularly regarding the timeline of events leading to John's death.

The discussion also covers the circumstances of John's death, including the lack of witnesses who saw him lying in the yard after a party. The episode raises doubts about the visibility of the scene and mentions a snowplow driver who reportedly did not see John at the time.

Overall, the episode emphasizes the need to clarify the timeline and relationships involved in this case, as well as the potential motives behind the events leading to John's tragic death.

TLDR

The episode investigates John O'Keefe's death, focusing on Michael Proctor's texts with Julie Albert and conflicting witness testimonies.

Episode

4:09
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10 days before John dies Michael Proctor the leite investigator is texting with Julie Albert who is related to Brian
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Albert whose house it was about babysitting his child that is someone you know yeah no doubt you trust with
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your kid more concerning is that two days after John died there are text messages between Michael Proctor and
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Michael Proctor's wife and Michael Proctor's wife is relaying a message it says quote just saw Julie they're
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talking about Julie Albert and Julie said when all this is over she wants to give you dot dot dot a thank
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you gift I don't know if the dot dot dot is leaving out things I don't know if it
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was a true like dot dot dot and apparently he responded and said that the gift should be sent to his wife and
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not him I don't love communication like that because right you can read into it 10 different ways but I think what that
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says in the big picture is you're too close for comfort and because of that again you could be perpetuating a lot of
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questions inuendos and theories that ultimately bring your integrity into question and in a case that that is at
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the core of it at this point that's super problematic Julie Albert actually comes into this a little bit more too
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because we haven't really heard much about her was she there that night was her her husband is her name Chris Albert
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were they there that night were they not there that night nobody really seems to
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agree which is really strange there was some grand jury testimony they're both at the waterfall we know that before
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Julie says she would goes home early with a headache Chris walked home when everyone left the bar the defense says
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that there is a February 21st report memorializing a statement that the officer or whatever took from them back
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on the 10th so this is like his memory of a statement that happened you know days ago but it says that they did go
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back to Brian Albert's after so the defense is like you didn't even point out this inconsistency in the original
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Grand JY that indicted her were they were there were they not there so so the only Theory when I talk about motive
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because again that's like the what the heck happened John barely knew these people the only Theory I've seen anyone
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come up with is that he got into it with Brian's nephew again that's the original
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tipster said something happened with Brian and his nephew and so for for there to be a lot of questions was Chris
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there was Chris not there for his wife to be the one like we want to give you a gift when all of this is over very
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suspicious well I think the question is is if you're looking at a in the moment something happened in that house the
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question naturally is okay who had the beef who had the beef with Jon O'Keefe even if it was in the momentary Split
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Second you know you spilled a drink on me or something or is it something that preceded it where there's this kind of
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growing uh issue and I think that's where we need to get to the bottom of who was in the house when did they get
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there when did they leave all of that surrounding the timeline of when we know John Dies it's it's hard what they had
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always said is that everyone stayed for about an hour and then people left or went to bed this is also what's strange
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to me because you have people leaving the house at say 1 1:30 like around that time nobody sees John laying in the yard
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and this is not a big property I like I can't WRA my head around it yeah how can
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you not see that unless you're just blackout which we know some of these Witnesses were not some were drunk some
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were not blackout but then yeah how do you not see someone lying there because we know at 1 and even 132 he's not
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covered in those 6 Ines of snow yet so my question is are there external Witnesses like people that were driving
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on that street or working the blizzard conditions right there's supposedly a snowplow driver who who was plowing the
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street at 2:30 who according to the defense is willing to testify that he did not see Jon out in the yard at 2:30
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in the morning

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Episode Highlights

  • Suspicious Communication
    Michael Proctor's wife relays a message about a thank you gift after John's death.
    “You're too close for comfort.”
    @ 00m 57s
    May 21, 2024
  • Unanswered Questions
    The timeline of events surrounding John's death raises more questions than answers.
    “What the heck happened?”
    @ 02m 10s
    May 21, 2024
  • Witness Visibility
    Questions arise about how witnesses could miss John lying in the yard after the incident.
    “How can you not see someone lying there?”
    @ 03m 31s
    May 21, 2024

Episode Quotes

  • You're too close for comfort.
    She wants to give you a ... 'Thank You' Gift | Crime Junkie AF
  • What the heck happened?
    She wants to give you a ... 'Thank You' Gift | Crime Junkie AF
  • How can you not see someone lying there?
    She wants to give you a ... 'Thank You' Gift | Crime Junkie AF

Key Moments

  • Text Messages00:17
  • Julie Albert's Involvement01:16
  • Timeline Confusion02:59
  • Witness Accounts03:58

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