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so how did you find yourself in crime
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solving law
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enforcement okay so it started with Adam
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and then I started carrying an anache
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case I was a weird kid I watched 60
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minutes I was always you know you were
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crime junky is what you were I was a
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crime junkie as a child yeah it started
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early you need children's crime junkie
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teachers listen I'm like I needed a
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whole like Series yeah and so um I was
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interning in homicide and the fact that
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I even got the internship is and this is
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at the prosecutor's office right yeah
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this was at the Amica county attorney's
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office and it was interesting because I
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knew me getting the job was divine I
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knew it was from somewhere else because
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I was stuck between do I want to do
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divorce custody law or homicide like a
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prosecutor and I'm like well as a kid
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you know I always wanted to put the bad
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guys away but you know I could help kids
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in custody situations and have like a
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child psychologist on staff and help
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them so I was a little torn so I went to
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homicide and they all told me no like
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everybody in homicide said no they
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didn't want they really didn't want me
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there the women were kind of mean quite
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honestly yeah I mean I was 28 at the
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time and they were not liking me being
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around and so I'm sitting waiting for my
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parking to be validated this man comes
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and sits next to me starts talking to me
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and he said why are you here and I said
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I'm here um for an internship like I
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really wanted to see if this this was my
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path and he said did they find a place
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for you and I said no they told me you
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didn't need any he's like don't need any
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um he's like I need someone to like
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organize my files and help put things
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together for court he's like you can be
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my intern and I was just like really so
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he walks me back through the bullpen of
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women on the phone and he's like this is
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the new intern this is Alice and DUIs
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and I'm just like hi you know who is the
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man um I've never I let's just say he
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was very high up in his division um he's
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retired from there since but although he
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met with the producers of medium and
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they know who he is I've never outwardly
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named him because um I don't want him to
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have to answer for my life you know okay
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but he knows who he is and he was a he's
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still a very good friend important
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pivotal in my life um but Glen Karen met
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him and so when he made uh man weld uh
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his character
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Deval around this man okay and his his
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Persona so that was pretty great so
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anyways it was my job to sort crime
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scene photos to go to court and I was
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sorting the photos and I was noticing
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that I was seeing what was happening in
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flashes before the person was killed and
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um he was like what's what's wrong cuz I
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guess I looked a little troubled and I
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said I swear I'm seeing what happened
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moments before these people were killed
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and he was like that's interesting he
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said what are you doing and I said I
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feel like maybe I'm getting in the head
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of the perpetrator cuz like I know what
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the motive is here and he said can you
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do that with a jury can you headtap
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jurors and I said I've never did he have
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any context for you your life or
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anything or it was just when you're
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looking at these pictures he was
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intuitive himself
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and he so he believed even though he's
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like straight up the best prosecutor
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I've seen in my life this commands the
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courtroom and so I said I could try so
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he sent me to one of the DA's homes and
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she had the jury questionnaires so I had
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to go through and assem put people on a
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jury that the defendants uh Council uh
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wouldn't care if we put them on um cuz
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they get like a certain amount of
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strikes they can strike some of your
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people and we can strike some of yours
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so I wanted to put people on the jury
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for our victim who is raped tortured and
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murdered she was an ASU law student that
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was my first case um I wanted to
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assemble a jury with women who knew what
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it was like to be
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victimized um women who are raped carry
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a victim energy so as I'm looking at the
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names on the questionnaires I could feel
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the one ones who had been through
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something I wanted them on my jury even
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though they said they were against the
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death penalty because I was pretty sure
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we could flip them as soon as they
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empathized with our victim and saw the
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gravity of the the it was animalistic
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what he did to this woman and once they
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saw the level of Carnage I figured we
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could flip them and it took seven days
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and when a jury's out for that long
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you're normally going to get a hung jury
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or um even a not guilty cuz the one hold
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out gives in and um I was taking my kids
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to TGI Fridays this on this particular
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day and I looked at the TV and it was it
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was him it was the man I worked for and
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um he was doing a press conference
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announcing that we got our guilty
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verdict on this man and that was my
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first uh case where they brought me into
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to do that and he's like I don't know
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how you did that um but can you do it
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again and the woman the female DA's
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house that he took me over to she could
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not stand me in court like she didn't
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think I should be there she's like I
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assembled my own jury he went with yours
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instead like she was upset and rightly
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so because maybe I wouldn't have been as
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accurate and he gambled on me and that's
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a big gamble I get that it's been so
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many years I feel like I can talk about
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this now did she come around she ended
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up being one of my best friends get out
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of here so then she you know then she
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asked me to help her on one and um I was
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on NyQuil I had a cold I was so sick
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this one more day and she goes I need to
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know if the jury is going to come back
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for us and when I'm like oh is that
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all um anyways so I told her the day and
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I told her the time and so I went back
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to sleep on my night Quil and my phone
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ring and she's like okay she's like the
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is back with a verdict she's like you
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off by 4
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minutes I was like sorry Patty whatever
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um she's like that was pretty good she's
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like I know you're sick but get dressed
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we're going to go drink some margaritas
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I was like I really don't feel like
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she's like I don't care she's like this
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is too big not to celebrate so that's
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how I sort of um progressed through the
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office of
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Das and um I loved it I did it six times
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yeah uh there was one that we there was
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a loophole we could not get this man
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really bothered me cuz the little girl
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was only like three and she was killed
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in his um trailer he was babysitting for
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parents that were meth addicts and um
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they found her body in his trailer but
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they couldn't prove it was him because
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there was no DNA on her body so he was
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she was in his trailer yes in his
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trailer and he said I went to the story
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came back she was dead it still leaves
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doubt and so they couldn't they weren't
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going to be able to get him and it just
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that just bothered me so much not just
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that that happened to her but that where
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were her parents you know and that there
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are a lot of parents out there like that
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on drugs that just aren't parenting
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their kids and protecting them so I
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initiated the Amber Alert in the state
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of Arizona and served on the task force
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to design it in
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200 2001
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believe