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Pam calls detectives [music] out of the blue one day in 1988 to tell them that she thinks she knows who killed
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Stephanie Caspers. She believes it was her brother Michael Bartelt. The cook at Big Boy who told investigators that he
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last saw [music] Stephanie leave through the restaurant's back door. Not the front door like everyone else said. And
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Pam says that she believes Michael might have had help from one of their other brothers who I'm going to call Dan. Now,
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remember that trip to Hawaii? The one Michael told police like he'd been planning, tickets already in hand.
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>> Yeah. Pam says that was all BS. Never had tickets, didn't even go to Hawaii, at least not at the time.
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Instead, Michael took off somewhere with friends and was gone for like close to a
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year. So, he didn't go to Hawaii, but he did leave after all. He did, correct, but not to
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Hawaii. So, investigators wonder if the story was a way to like make his sudden vanishing act look planned? And I don't
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know, I'm guessing he said like you're going to go away anyways, why not tell them where you were going? I'm kind of
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guessing maybe Hawaii sounded far enough that they wouldn't come knocking. Maybe
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>> It sounds like a vaca- it's like it's like a for sure vacation. >> he didn't want them to know where he
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was. And listen, Pam says that their mother helped sell that story cuz they did go question his mom back in '69. And
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Pam apparently listened in on the conversation and heard her mom tell investigators like, "Oh yes, Michael did
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go to Hawaii." Even though Pam's like he absolutely did not. And by the way, she
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said their mom told them back then like, "Oh, Michael doesn't own a gun." They must have asked him that. "No, he
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doesn't own a gun." But Pam's like, "By the way, she lied to you about that, too. He definitely did own a gun."
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And according to Pam, this kind of behavior from their mom was typical. Like she would routinely lie to protect
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her sons.