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is there a case I mean you worked so
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many that that really stays with you um
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so just last year right after the Kyle
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Epiphany um Natalie Holloway was one of
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the last cases I had provided
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information on and I always said she was
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in the water said she's in the water
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Vander slot did it this is what happened
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I mean I went on news programs it was
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not a secret um and they finally got
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admission last fall I believe sometime
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around that um so I was able to close
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that in my mind because the answers were
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there there's only one case after that
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one out of all the cases I've ever
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worked that has no conclusion and it was
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Mel begs and that will always bother me
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she was my driving force in starting an
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Amber Alert in Arizona serving on the
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task force to design it I actually asked
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her mother to come with me to knock on
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doors to get the Amber Alert passed into
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Arizona um so that it was a law it was a
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function that we had available to us
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because the majority of stranger
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abductions I believe the FBI statistic
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is they're killed the low statistics
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within seven hours but it's usually
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really within like three um so as soon
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as they're removed to a remote area
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they're dead unless they're one of the
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Miracles that survives the strangulation
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or whatever the mode of of murder was
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and um the Amber Alert they were they in
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Dallas Fort Worth area they were using
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it there so when I went to Texas for the
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my first case which was the opal
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Jennings case she was a little
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girl um when I went out there the cop
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that I was riding in the car with was
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telling me about the amber alert and
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that it was created for Amber Hagerman
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who was raped and murdered in the Fort
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Worth area and so that's why I brought
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it back to Arizona cuz only had it in
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the Fort Worth um Dallas Fort Worth area
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and in San Diego those were the only two
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places in the entire country that had it
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so this was a long time ago mind you and
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so I wanted it in Arizona and with uh
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Tracy Big's help Mel's mother uh we
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knocked on enough doors that JD Hayworth
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was the only politician that actually
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called us back and listened to us and
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helped us implement it clear channel is
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worried about being sued because they're
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like what if it's a prank I'm like what
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if it's not yeah what if it's a real
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child abducted it's not worth if we have
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to deal with pranks so be it yeah and
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then they were worried about well what
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if they don't meet the age requirement
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what if it's an old person I'm like can
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we cross that bridge after we get like
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the bones of this put down um I knew
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Molly Bish's story cuz I had met her
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parents through Tracy bigs and she was a
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lifeguard that was abducted from her
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post and so I got them to raise the age
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to 17
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in Arizona because at the time it was 15
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cuz they thought a lot were runaways and
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like a lot of them aren't mhm um and so
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they did raise it to 17 so I did that
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that made me proud amazing yeah