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margaret hobbs was no stranger to sex offenders after working as a parole officer for
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many years she had become a psychotherapist and ran her own private practice in the inner city victorian
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suburb of fitzroy margaret had treated killers and various other criminals but her specialty was in
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providing therapy to men who had committed sexually based offences as well as counselling these individuals
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margaret reported on them to the courts and over the course of 20 years almost every convicted sex offender in
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melbourne had been referred to her at one time or another due to the difficult nature of her work
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margaret had grown adept at compartmentalizing her life professional and compassionate she was able to
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present her composed mask to her clients even when they spoke of having done terrible things
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after each working day was over margaret would retreat to her home in the dandenong ranges a striking region on
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the eastern fringes of melbourne that is characterized by rolling hills tall mountain ash trees and dense ferny
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foliage weekends were a chance to completely switch off nestled in her picturesque setting
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margaret completely avoided all news reports and instead spent her time reading and writing
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one day in november 1984 margaret was preparing to meet a new client 47 year old robert arthur selby low
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his lawyers had referred him to margaret in anticipation of an upcoming hearing robert lowe had exposed himself to some
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school girls at a shopping center near his home and made some lewd remarks he'd been charged and was set to appear
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in a magistrates court so his defense team needed a report they could present when margaret greeted lo she noted that
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he didn't look like most of her other clients he was of average height with a lean
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build and a dressed in exceptionally neat clothes his light-colored slightly curly hair
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was beginning to turn grey and his eyes were framed by fine rimmed glasses when lowe spoke margaret detected a
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polished english accent she found him to be exceedingly polite and well-mannered
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as well as working as a salesperson robert lowe volunteered his time to the community as a church elder a sunday
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school teacher and a children's sports coach he had been married for more than a
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decade and had two sons with a ready smile and a respectful heir low appeared in every way to be an
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upstanding member of society and yet from almost the first moment that margaret hobbs met robert lowe
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there was something about him that made her skin crawl [Music] [Music] [Music] the obscene exposure charge that had led
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to margaret hobbs meeting robert lowe proceeded to court lowe was given a one-year good behaviour
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bond on the proviso that he begins seeing margaret regularly for therapy sessions
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he agreed at first lo denied that he had done anything wrong despite being charged with a crime
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he explained that he had not exposed himself to the schoolgirls as doing so was against the law
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he had spoken to them but lowe pointed out that this was not a crime yet margaret was soon able to coax some
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admissions from him lowe acknowledged that he had been previously convicted on one count of
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indecent exposure and one of theft despite his respectable appearance steady job and solid home life
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there was something about low that made margaret intuitively suspicious of him he visited for regular sessions and
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always arrived right on time armed with a neat sheaf of papers on which he would
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jot down notes as they talked but margaret sensed that his efforts to change his behavior were insincere
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he minimized and denied the nature of his crimes and was a habitual liar his dishonesty was often characterized
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by sly emissions or denying something on a technicality in a book titled the evil co-authored by
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margaret hobbs and journalist andrew rule margaret described low's slippery way of
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avoiding the truth ask him if he has a blue car and he will say certainly not if you change the question slightly and
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ask him if he drives a blue car he will say yes but point out that he doesn't own it
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[Music] over time low admitted to more and more crimes predominantly indecent exposure
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and theft as he became more comfortable with margaret lo told her how he often exposed himself to young girls
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sometimes he deliberately placed items of pornography that he'd stolen in full view of his victims hoping to shock them
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with the material he had committed these acts in his homeland of england and his adopted
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country of new zealand as well as australia where he had settled in 1967 yet thanks to his skillful lying he was
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rarely convicted when lowe was charged his punishment usually came in the form of a small fine
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sometimes he received good behaviour bonds he lived in the eastern suburb of glen
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waverley but his work as a travelling salesperson meant he visited a wide range of areas
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this enabled him to operate more stealthily than if he always struck in the same neighborhood
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[Music] in 1985 robert lowe's good bond expired and he was no longer required to attend therapy
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but he kept scheduling the occasional appointment with margaret or sometimes he called her on the phone
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she felt as though he got off on telling her about the obscene things that he'd done
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[Music] by april of 1990 robert lowe had been in and out of margaret hobbs life for five
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and a half years one day he arrived for an appointment and almost immediately announced that
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some police officers had just visited his workplace they had wanted to question him about an
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attempted child abduction margaret was shocked what happened she asked lo claimed that he hadn't done anything
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wrong he'd just stopped to talk to some schoolgirls in the inner northern suburb
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of northcutt while he was in the area for work by now margaret recognized when lowe was
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attempting to minimise a crime gently she tried coaxing more information from him with carefully
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phrased questions he eventually admitted that he'd seen the girls as he was driving down the
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street they were on so he pulled over and approached them lol attempted to engage the girls in
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conversation but when a woman emerged from a nearby shop and stared at him he decided to
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leave as he walked away he noticed a little girl playing in the front garden of her
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home did you speak to her margaret asked as described in her book the evil lo said he hadn't
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well did she speak to you then margaret persisted yes i think she did but i didn't speak to her first
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lo sounded smug margaret asked if he had suggested that the little girl go somewhere with him
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he gave a vague reply i may have i don't know margaret was deeply disturbed she couldn't help but feel that her
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client had crossed a whole new line in his offending she next saw low about one month later
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he hadn't been charged for the attempted abduction but he revealed that the police were now
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investigating him for something else this time he had just tried to chat with some 12 year old girls he'd seen at
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flinders street train station in melbourne's cbd moments after this innocent conversation
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a suspicious police officer had approached out of the blue and arrested him lo asked if margaret's son-in-law who
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was a solicitor could represent him his office was in the same building as margaret's
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after lowe left margaret decided to look into the matter further she called the police officer who had
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interviewed lowe about the matter to hear his version of events the officer told margaret that the girls
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were younger than low described approximately between 8 and 10 years old they had been standing on a railway
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platform holding some balloons when lowe walked up to them and said the balloons
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looked like quote big dicks then he asked if they'd like to go somewhere with him quote for sex
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the terrified children ran away and flagged down a police officer when the officer approached low he fled
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and had to be tackled to the ground it was obvious that low couldn't be trusted he was playing down his crimes and lying
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about the details moreover his victims were getting younger and he was becoming bolder
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instead of just exposing himself now he was attempting to engage girls in conversation and lure them away out in
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public in the middle of the day robert lowe was soon charged over the incident at flinders street station
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he asked margaret to write a report that could be used as part of his defense as
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he was planning to plead not guilty angered by his decision margaret initially refused
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she knew that lowe was guilty and was upset that he was defending their charges by pleading not guilty he would be
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forcing his young victims to testify at trial and exacerbating their suffering when she questioned why he wouldn't just
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admit what he had done lo smiled and replied you know me mug what do you think i pay lawyers for
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[Music] margaret had had enough it was clear that low had no remorse and no desire to stop his criminal behaviour
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he wasn't treating therapy seriously and instead seemed to take a perverse pleasure in the time they spent together
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calmly margaret asked her client to leave stating i really don't think i want anything
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else to do with you it's obvious you're not benefiting from coming here in fact i think you're
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getting worse shocked by her demand low refused to leave but margaret insisted realising he was fighting a losing
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battle lo stormed out of her office slamming the door as he went [Music] eventually margaret did agree to provide
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a court report but it was a damning one she made a point of noting how dangerous
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low's behaviour was proper punishment would be the only deterrent after reading what the psychotherapist
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had written lowe's lawyer decided not to submit her report it would only harm his client's defense
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in november of 1990 lowe was convicted of harassing the children at flinders street station and fined seven hundred
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dollars when margaret hobbs heard this sentencing she was very concerned surely such a poultry fine would only
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serve to further convince robert lowe that he had done nothing wrong and most likely he would go on to commit
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more offenses with impunity months ticked by and margaret hobbs moved on she was no longer treating robert lowe
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and didn't miss his absence from her life by the start of july 1991 it had been more than six months since she'd seen
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him on the morning of tuesday july 1 margaret was making the long drive from her home in the dandenongs to her office
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in melbourne it was the first day of her working week and as per usual she had avoided the
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news all weekend long as margaret drove she switched on her car radio and listened as a presenter
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ran through the latest headlines the lead story was about a little girl who had gone missing over the weekend on
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victoria's mornington peninsula just before 2 p.m on saturday june 29 in the seaside town of rosebud six-year-old
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cherie beasley had ridden her bike to a local milk bar to pick up some things for her mum
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almost half an hour later her bright pink bicycle was found abandoned in a nearby residential street
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a large-scale search of the region and its surrounding bushland had found no trace of the little girl
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police believed cherie had been abducted and held grey fears for her safety they were on the lookout for a blue
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toyota corolla as margaret listened to the report she immediately felt her sinking feeling
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although she hadn't seen him in months her mind immediately went to robert lowe she knew that he and his wife owned a
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holiday home in rosebud which was a popular tourist destination in the summer months
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sheree beasley's age and agenda fit with low's general pattern of victims and margaret had a long suspected that
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his crimes were escalating but she had no idea what sort of car he drove and there was nothing tangible
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that pointed to him as the suspect perhaps she was just being paranoid with nothing more than a hunch to go on
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margaret kept her suspicions to herself as the days passed margaret hobbs kept an eye on the news
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cherie beasley's school portrait was regularly featured in updates depicting her freckled face bright blue eyes long
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brown hair and cheeky smile yet there was still no sign of the six year old nor had police arrested anybody
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or indicated that they knew who might be responsible some victorians worried that sheree was
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yet another victim of the unidentified serial child rapist that the media had dubbed mr cruel
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covered in episode 41 of case file mr cruel attacked several girls in melbourne's northern and eastern suburbs
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during the late 1980s and early 90s mr cruel was also the main suspect in the abduction of 13 year old carmen chan
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who was taken from her home almost three months before cherie beasley vanished but despite these concerns about mr
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cruel that was robert lowe who margaret hobbs couldn't stop thinking about by monday july 29 exactly one month had
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passed since cherie's abduction that same afternoon margaret received a surprise at work
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she was in her office when her son-in-law's receptionist danielle appeared at her door
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danielle worked downstairs where margaret's son-in-law had a law firm a client had arrived at the building
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wanting to speak about a legal matter but margaret's son-in-law wasn't in would margaret be willing to talk to the
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client instead it was robert lowe margaret hadn't seen lo since his court hearing at the end of the previous year
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she agreed to speak with him and danielle sent him upstairs margaret immediately noticed he looked
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different low had always dressed smartly but that day his jacket clashed with his
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trousers and tie instead of smiling and making polite chitchat like he usually did he was rude
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and upset lowe explained that he'd come to see margaret's son-in-law about a bill
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before launching into a tirade about the negative court report she had written for him months earlier in relation to
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the flinders street station incident agitated and irritable low left abruptly his erratic behavior was out of
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character and only served to increase margaret's suspicions she went downstairs and asked danielle
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whether she had seen what sort of car low had been driving the receptionist replied that she hadn't
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but the next morning she surprised margaret by saying low had loitered in the area longer than they realized
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shortly after margaret left for the day he too had driven away from the premises
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in a blue toyota corolla two weeks later margaret received a phone call from robert lowe some
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detectives had shown up at his house early in the morning his prior criminal record and the blue
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toyota corolla he drove had brought them to his door lowe didn't own the vehicle it belonged
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to his employer but he used it daily low hadn't wanted to let the detectives inside but when they presented him with
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a search warrant and informed him he was suspected of abducting six-year-old cherie beasley he had no other option
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low's wife and sons were shocked and confused by the sudden influx of police officers to their home
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the family all held hands in the kitchen while lowe prayed aloud then some of the detectives informed lo
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that they would be taking his car in for a forensic examination and he would need
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to come with them for questioning as they bundled him into a police car other officers continued searching the
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low family home upon arriving at melbourne's police headquarters robert lowe was permitted to make a
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phone call as described in the book the evil he dialed margaret hobbs number and told
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her i'm in real trouble could you suggest the best lawyer available margaret suggested he stick with the
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lawyer that he already had and the call concluded the following month she heard from lo
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again when he scheduled his first appointment with her in almost a year the first since she had told him she
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didn't want to treat him anymore it turned out that detectives had questioned low for more than four hours
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but he had resisted their efforts to obtain his fingerprints or a blood sample they had to let him go as they had no
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actual evidence to hold him low turned up for his appointment looking messy and disheveled
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as he explained to margaret things have gone off the rails a bit since you threw me
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out investigators had informed lo's family what he was suspected of and questioned them at length
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none of them had been able to provide him with an alibi for the afternoon of cherie's disappearance
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with lorraine telling investigators that she and her husband had attended a prayer meeting at their church in the
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morning when the meeting ended at 10 45 lo told lorraine and some other churchgoers that he planned to go to
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rosebud to carry out some repairs on their holiday home rosebud was roughly an hour's drive from
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the couple's house in glen waverley lorraine went home alone that morning despite multiple people hearing low say
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he was going to roseboard that day he claimed to have no recollection of travelling to the area
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later he amended this to say he had driven to his holiday home but had finished making the repairs by 1250 and
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was back in glen waverley by 2pm shortly before cherie was abducted but lorraine disputed this
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she said her husband hadn't arrived home until after 5pm and he'd immediately stripped off his clothes and put them in
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the washing machine it was the first time she had ever seen lo do laundry in his life
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now harboring the same suspicions as margaret hobbs and victoria police lorraine asked lowe to move out of their
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house he began residing at their holiday home in rosebard not far from where cherie beasley had
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been abducted his employer fired him and handed over his company car to detectives
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but lowe assured margaret that he wasn't worried he wasn't guilty and if the police had any evidence he
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would have been arrested and charged by now soon enough all of his troubles would
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fade and life would return to normal three months after sheree beasley was abducted some teenage horse riders were
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traveling along a country road in red hill a rural town about 10 kilometers inland from rosebud
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suddenly the teenage girls smelled a foul odor one of their horses spooked as they
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passed a concrete storm water pipe that jutted out beneath the driveway of a property
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squeezed inside the pipe's narrow 30 centimetre entrance was a badly decomposed corpse that the girls
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initially believed belonged to a kangaroo when they passed the same spot the following day the remains had been
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dragged out into the open presumably by scavenging animals in the harsh light of day it was clear
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they belonged not to a kangaroo but to a small human they were lying on a dirty bright pink
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jumper an article of clothing that matched the pink tracksuit cherie beasley had been wearing on the day of
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her disappearance forensic testing confirmed that the body was hers but she was too badly decomposed for a
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cause of death to be established margaret hobbs learned about the heartbreaking discovery in the news
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she had been following cherie's case closely ever since she'd grown suspicious of robert lowe
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after lowe's long absence from her life he had started making regular appointments again
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away from his family and with the police watching him closely lowe had grown to view margaret as his primary confidant
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when margaret first saw lowe after cherie's remains were recovered she remarked i believe they found the body of sheree
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beasley lowe appeared unfazed and merely replied have they then he abruptly added
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i don't know the spot where they found it i've never been there i wouldn't have a clue where it was
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margaret had mentioned nothing about the body's location margaret noted that lowe was looking
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worse with every session he had always taken pride in his appearance but he had suddenly stopped
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shaving and was wearing mismatched clothes the papers that he always brought with
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him were also starting to look messy as he scrawled notes to himself crossing things out and rewriting over the top
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convinced that lowe was responsible for cherie beasley's murder margaret tried frequently to draw information from him
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it was obvious that he enjoyed their conversations about the little girl viewing them as a kind of cat and mouse
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game gradually he would admit to more and more things though he always twisted away from confessing at the last minute
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the more that they spoke about the case the more low began to discuss the location where cherie's body had been
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found upon learning that it was in red hill he said that he thought he might know which
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spot it was he and his wife had driven to the area once but lowe insisted he never got out of
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the car and didn't see a stormwater drain margaret suspected that low was in the
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process of making a partial confession he had a tendency to deny things outright before slowly revealing that he
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knew more than he was letting on he wouldn't admit outright involvement in one of his crimes but would change his
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stories over time and twist the truth to minimise his culpability margaret fetched a street directory and
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handed it to low asking him to show her where he thought the location was he turned to the map of red hill and
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pointed to a spot with a pen that he was holding about here he said margaret took the directory from him and
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shifted it up ever so slightly so the tip of the pen touched the page staining it with
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ink it marked the exact same spot where cherie beasley had been found not long after this low arrived for an
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appointment carrying a small backpack and a plastic bag taking a seat in his usual chair he
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placed each bag on either side of him on the floor then he looked at margaret and asked
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margaret do you really think i could bury a child in a drain to be eaten by maggots
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his expression made margaret's blood run cold she could tell he was enjoying himself
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then she noticed there was something small and white on the back of lo's chair it looked like a piece of cotton
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except that it was moving thinking it was a caterpillar margaret walked over to dispose of the insect
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but as she drew closer she realised it was actually a maggot and it wasn't the only one
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crawling all over the floor the wall and lowe's chair were hundreds of maggots margaret screamed at lowe ordering him
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out of her office he grabbed his backpack and exited leaving the plastic bag behind
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margaret saw that was where the maggots were crawling from without looking inside she bundled the
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plastic bag up and ran downstairs to throw it in a bin months went by lowe spent the summer travelling
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interstate first visiting sydney and then going further north to queensland by this stage his wife lorraine had told
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him she wanted a divorce and low did not take the news well in march of 1992 he began seeing
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margaret hobbs again during one appointment lowe told margaret that he would typically forget
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bad things he had done if he was forgiven for them he was also prone to blocking out
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memories that he didn't want to recall margaret asked lo if such a thing could have happened with regards to cherie
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beasley's murder what lo said next sent a chill down margaret's spine quote could i have blocked something out that
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much taking a body and ramming it into a drain i might have done it i cannot remember it
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despite this disturbing admission low appeared more concerned with the breakdown of his marriage than with what
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had happened to cheray beasley in multiple sessions he told margaret hobbs of his love for his wife lorraine
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and his desperation to reconcile with her lorraine had ended their relationship because she knew lowe was a suspect in
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cherie beasley's murder lorraine also harbored her own suspicions that her husband was involved
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all she wanted as she put it was for lo to tell the truth discussing this matter with margaret
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hobbs lowe asked what would happen to him if he confessed to the crime purely in order to win lorraine back
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margaret explained that he would likely receive a manslaughter charge how many years low queried
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eight with probably a four-year minimum margaret replied lowe went back and forth on this topic
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over time sometimes he outright denied having anything to do with cherie's murder
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other times he said he would admit to manslaughter if lorraine agreed to recommit to him
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meanwhile the police continued to haul low in for questioning about the case every so often
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it was clear that the stress and the scrutiny was starting to get to him finally during an appointment on april 1
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1992 robert lowe said something to margaret that changed everything if you want me to tell you the truth
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i can tell you how i was involved yes i could tell you how i was involved margaret tried to mask her shock
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she asked lo to repeat what he just said he did and then he added will you help me
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margaret agreed lo began to speak he had driven to rosebud on the afternoon of june 29 1991 and noticed
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two children arguing near a milk bar on the pean highway it was cherie beasley and a little boy
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presumably a friend of hers lo pulled over and opened the passenger door then asked if cherie wanted a lift
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as he put it he was trying to help her escape the disagreement with the boy cherie got in the car and low buckled
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her seatbelt he drove in the direction of a creak he knew but as they got further and further away
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from where he had picked up cherie the little girl began to look scared deciding he would take her back home low
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made a u-turn still distressed cherie began coughing and choking in panic suddenly all went silent
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low quickly pulled over and a saw that cheree had stopped breathing he attempted to revive her
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but it was too late she had died low's immediate reaction was that he needed to dig a grave
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but he didn't have a shovel with him realizing that there was a storm water drain beneath the road he was on low
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decided he would hide cherie's body in there instead as he related how he shoved the little
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girl inside the pipe lo suddenly remarked i need to go to red hill to the spot where the body was found
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something may jog my memory margaret agreed to accompany low to red hill although she was terrified she felt an
00:40:27
obligation to extract a full confession from the man who had been her client for
00:40:32
more than seven years several days after lowe had given his version of events margaret drove down to
00:40:40
the peninsula to lowe's holiday home in rosebard where he had been living since splitting with lorraine
00:40:49
she collected low and the two drove west along the nepean highway which begins in
00:40:55
melbourne's cbd and takes motorists through the city's southern suburbs before concluding at the tip of the
00:41:03
mornington peninsula lowe provided directions first he wanted to point out the spot
00:41:11
where he had quote picked up cheree it was on a residential street called parkmoor road near a corner where it
00:41:21
intersected with nepean highway as they lingered on parkmoor road lowe pointed out an old rotting pine tree
00:41:30
growing in the nature strip by the street the tree marked where cherie beasley's
00:41:37
bright pink bicycle had been found after she went missing someone had tied a yellow ribbon around
00:41:44
it in remembrance of the little girl that's where i picked her up low explained then he told margaret to make a u-turn
00:41:56
and drive back along nepean highway while pointing out exactly where margaret should go
00:42:04
he kept a running narrative of what had happened after cherie had gotten into his car
00:42:11
after asking margaret to pull into a car park on a nearby foreshore lo said she's panicking i'm taking her home now
00:42:23
then he directed margaret to a tree-lined country road where a concrete stormwater drain lay beneath the
00:42:30
driveway of a property this is the spot low said and margaret parked the car low exited the vehicle but margaret
00:42:43
stayed seated scared that she might faint from the stress of the experience low strolled along the road then down to
00:42:54
the pipe where cherie's body had been found mourners had left flowers by its entrance
00:43:03
after a little while low returned to the car and told margaret that looks like it
00:43:13
as margaret drove her low back to his home he kept talking in detail about how he had forced sheree's body into the
00:43:22
narrow pipe quote i got down on my bottom and kicked the body down i said a prayer
00:43:32
oh god forgive me for this terrible thing i've done please take care of this child
00:43:38
something like that margaret turned slightly to hide the fact that her eyes had filled with tears
00:43:47
and wiped her face on her sleeve it seemed as though lo was excited to be reliving these memories with another
00:43:55
individual and his excitement only increased margaret's distress she dropped low off at his unit
00:44:05
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six-year-old cherie beasley woke up before anyone else in her family and addressed herself in a pink tracksuit
00:51:32
after leaving the bedroom she shared with her two little sisters she carefully closed the door so she
00:51:39
wouldn't wake them she also shut her mom's door for the same reason after making herself some toast for
00:51:48
breakfast she fixed another plate for her mother kerry and carried it into her with a glass of cordial so her mum could
00:51:55
have breakfast in bed eventually the rest of the family had gotten up and at around 1pm cherie asked
00:52:04
if she could ride her bike to a nearby milk bar on nepean highway to buy some lollies
00:52:12
cherie loved her pink bicycle it had been a christmas gift six months earlier kerry agreed and also asked cheree to
00:52:21
stop at a nearby boutique that owed her money she wrote a note for cheree to give the
00:52:28
shopkeeper and also handed over an envelope with twenty dollars inside on the envelope she wrote the word
00:52:36
cigarettes an instruction for the milk shop owner who was familiar with the family and accustomed to cherie running
00:52:43
errands for her mum kerry told cherie she could spend one dollar from the change on some lollies
00:52:51
for herself the note and the envelope with the money were placed in a beige handbag which
00:52:59
cherie carried in her bike's basket cheree cycled to the boutique first and returned 20 minutes later with her
00:53:09
mother's money having forgotten about the second part of her trip kerry jotted down a few more orders on
00:53:16
the envelope a bottle of coke a pasty and a pie then cherie rode away again it was just before two o'clock in the
00:53:26
afternoon parkmoor road resident vera and her daughter susan had made plans to go
00:53:36
shopping that afternoon it was a dreary winter's day with heavy clouds hanging low in the air
00:53:45
rosebud was always bustling with tourists during the summer months but in winter it was something of a ghost town
00:53:53
escaping to a shopping mall was one of the few reasons to leave the house on an overcast day
00:53:59
[Music] vera and susan both wanted to pick up a few things from kmart a budget retailer
00:54:06
that had a franchise nearby at around 2 20 pm the mother and daughter climbed into susan's car then
00:54:15
started along parkmoor road towards nepean highway as she drove susan noticed a child's
00:54:24
bicycle popped up against the rotting pine tree next door to her mother's house it was a girl's bike colored bright pink
00:54:32
with a white woven basket attached to the handlebars and the brand name poppy emblazoned in
00:54:39
white lettering along the frame mum whose bike's that susan asked glancing over vera recognized the bicycle right away
00:54:53
she had seen a little girl riding it up and down park moore road over the past few months
00:54:58
[Music] one day as vera and her husband had been doing some repair work on their driveway
00:55:05
the little girl had walked past their home with her mother and two smaller sisters
00:55:11
the girl's mother had paused for a friendly chat and mentioned that they lived on south road which intersected
00:55:19
with parkmoor vera ordered susan to turn around and drive to south road so she could tell
00:55:27
the girl's family about the bike after knocking on a couple of doors they found the right house
00:55:34
a small fibro and timber property with a sprawling front lawn the little girl's 24 year old mother
00:55:42
kerry answered the door and listened as vera told her that her daughter's bike had been left unattended around the
00:55:50
corner [Music] sheree usually returned from visiting the milk bar within a quarter of an hour
00:56:02
so when 20 minutes had passed with no sign of her kerry was a little worried but perhaps cherie had just run into a
00:56:11
school friend and stopped to play for a little while by the time vera knocked on her front
00:56:17
door more than 45 minutes had passed upon learning that sheree's bike had been abandoned kerry's concern grew
00:56:27
substantially she asked her partner stephen to go check and he walked quickly to the
00:56:34
location vera described the bike was still leaning against the rotted pine tree inside the basket was the beige handbag
00:56:45
kerry had given cherie before she left home checking its compartments steven saw a
00:56:52
packet of cigarettes a pasty a pie and a bottle of coke as well as the envelope with change inside
00:57:00
so cherie had definitely made it to the milk bar starting to panic stephen called out
00:57:08
fishery and looked around for her she was nowhere to be seen stephen made his way to a nearby pay
00:57:17
phone and placed a call to rosebud police then he raced home to kerry with tears
00:57:24
in his eyes the police were at kerry's home within minutes they took down a description of cheree
00:57:34
borrowed a photograph of her and began door knocking the neighborhood asking if anyone had seen the little girl
00:57:42
officers took sniffer dogs out to search surrounding bushland and were joined by
00:57:48
state emergency service volunteers a police command center was set up on parkmoor road near to where cherie's
00:57:57
bike had been found the bike remained propped up against the pine tree the scene now secured with
00:58:05
crime scene tape a forensic team was summoned to examine the evidence by late afternoon the media had gotten a
00:58:15
hold of the story and radio bulletins alerted the public to the six-year-old's disappearance
00:58:23
kerry and her boyfriend were asked to provide a statement down at rosebud police station
00:58:29
kerry explained that she always told sheree to come straight home after running an errand
00:58:35
then added i don't know where my daughter is or who could have taken her i love her very much
00:58:46
police wondered whether cherie's biological father had snatched her perhaps wanting full custody of his
00:58:52
eldest child but he was away fishing with friends in victoria's alpine region he didn't learn of his daughter's
00:59:01
disappearance until he returned home late the following day when he heard what had happened he raced
00:59:09
to rosebud where his parents were already waiting with kerry shocked and upset he could barely manage
00:59:18
to speak police instead turned to their attention to the possible sightings and leads that
00:59:27
had started trickling in almost as soon as word of cherie's disappearance spread
00:59:33
there was one tip that sounded especially promising a woman had seen a little girl matching
00:59:40
cherie's description on the afternoon in question she had been riding a pink bicycle
00:59:47
but she wasn't alone riding on another bike behind her was a little boy investigators had no idea who the little
00:59:58
boy might be no parents had come forward to say their children had been playing with cherie
01:00:05
before she went missing on the morning of monday july 1 detective peter butland decided to visit
01:00:13
cherie's school rosebud primary he worked his way through the classrooms asking students if any of them had seen
01:00:22
cherie beasley with a boy two days earlier eventually an older male student revealed that his little brother had
01:00:31
said something about seeing cheree on saturday his brother was in cheray's class and
01:00:38
his name was shane detective butlin fetched shane from his class the little boy was shy and reluctant to
01:00:48
talk at first but soon he began to open up shane's initial reluctance in coming forward was because he had snuck out on
01:01:00
saturday without his parents knowledge they had gone out for the afternoon leaving shane in the care of his older
01:01:08
siblings while they listened to music upstairs shane secretly left on his bmx bicycle
01:01:16
to go buy some lollies at a nearby petrol station when he reached the petrol station shane
01:01:24
saw cherie beasley on her pink bicycle cherie was in shane's class at school and the two were friendly so they began
01:01:34
to play together they cycled towards the milk bar on the pan highway where cherie had to buy some
01:01:41
things but shane stopped on parkmoor road he didn't think he should go any further
01:01:48
so he waited there while cheree went to the milk bar as he stood by his bmx watching for
01:01:56
cherie's return a small blue two-door car turned off nepean highway and into park moore
01:02:04
road the driver braked and pulled over very close to where shane stood [Music] soon cheree reappeared
01:02:19
cycling around the corner from nepean highway and back on to parkmore road where shane was waiting
01:02:27
the blue car was still there as shane watched the driver called out to cheray to stop
01:02:36
he was middle-aged and lean with a clean-shaven face [Music] come here the man said to cherie
01:02:44
[Music] cherie reluctantly approached the vehicle still wearing her bright pink bicycle helmet
01:02:54
then the man got out strode over to cherie picked her up and put her in the front passenger seat
01:03:02
quickly he walked back to the driver's side and jumped back in reversing into a u-turn he almost ran
01:03:10
over cherie's pink bicycle which lay discarded in the middle of the road then the man turned back onto nepean
01:03:19
highway the entire abduction took place in a matter of seconds shane was scared and didn't quite
01:03:28
understand what had happened he didn't think cheree had wanted to go with the man
01:03:36
shane kept standing there alone soon after the car disappeared with sheree inside some other motorists drove
01:03:46
up parkmoor road and noticed sheree's abandoned bike they stopped and wheeled it over to a
01:03:53
nearby tree assuming its owner was off playing nearby with friends after seeing this
01:04:02
shane rode his bike home and crept inside without his siblings realising that he'd ever gone out
01:04:09
when his parents returned home a little after 3 p.m shane was still playing in the same spot that he'd been when they
01:04:17
left hours earlier detective butlin was impressed with shane's recollection upon re-examining the crime scene at
01:04:29
parkmoor road the detectives saw that tire marks on the bitumen perfectly matched the vehicle maneuvers that shane
01:04:37
had described shane didn't know enough about cars to identify the vehicle's specific make or
01:04:44
model but now investigators knew they were looking for a two-door car that was small and blue
01:04:51
likely a hatchback there was something else some early media reports had mistakenly
01:04:59
reported that cherie's pink bike helmet was found at the scene alongside the bike
01:05:06
but police had never come across the helmet in any of their searches and shane said that when the man had
01:05:13
grabbed cheree she was still wearing it the detectives knew that they had to release this updated information as soon
01:05:22
as possible once the media began reporting that cherie had in fact been wearing her
01:05:29
black helmet when she was taken witnesses who had previously discounted things that they'd seen began coming
01:05:36
forward a woman driving along the highway that afternoon had pulled up alongside a blue
01:05:44
hatchback being driven by a white man who looked between 50 and 60 years old sitting beside him was a little girl in
01:05:54
a pink bike helmet sobbing as the man stared straight ahead and studiously avoided eye contact
01:06:03
the woman assumed the girl was the man's granddaughter and that he'd told her off
01:06:08
for some reason or other a mother and daughter out the front of a motel on the pean highway had seen a
01:06:16
terrified looking little girl being driven in a blue hatchback the girl had a pink helmet on and stared
01:06:24
desperately at the mother through the passenger window as though trying to communicate something
01:06:31
this woman was able to help police identify the exact type of car the abductor had been driving
01:06:39
a blue toyota corolla [Music] detectives obtained a list of all blue toyota corollas registered throughout
01:06:51
the state there were more than 700 and they would have to follow up on each and every one
01:07:00
senior detective andrew gusky was responsible for calling the car's owners and asking questions in an attempt to
01:07:07
determine whether or not they might be a suspect most people were polite cooperative and
01:07:14
eager to be of assistance on the morning of tuesday july 30 detective gusky's phone rang
01:07:23
it was a man returning a call that the detective had placed a week earlier the man didn't own a blue toyota corolla
01:07:31
but he drove one that belonged to his employer unlike most of the other people detective gusky had spoken to
01:07:40
this man was standoffish and abrupt yet he also had a crystal clear recollection of what he'd been doing a
01:07:48
month earlier on saturday june 29 something that struck the detective azad he said that he'd spent the day at home
01:07:58
with his family in melbourne's eastern suburbs the man's name was robert lowe when detective gusky asked lo for his
01:08:10
phone number low had abruptly refused he explained that he had an unlisted number and didn't want to give it out to
01:08:19
anyone detective gusky's curiosity was immediately peaked he searched lowe's name in victoria
01:08:28
police's records and saw he had multiple charges for indecent exposure and defensive behavior
01:08:36
four months earlier low had been spotted lurking by the fence of a public swimming pool in the outer eastern
01:08:43
suburb of croydon a school sports event was taking place at the pool two teachers soon noticed a low chatting
01:08:54
with two young boys while touching himself when confronted he ran away to his car
01:09:02
but a teacher had managed to take note of his number plate and passed it on to police
01:09:09
soon after detective gusky became convinced that robert lowe looked like a prime suspect another member of the task
01:09:17
force showed him an interesting report from crime stoppers the service had received hundreds of
01:09:24
tip-offs in the weeks since cherie was abducted but this one seemed especially promising
01:09:32
an anonymous woman had called to report a man named robert lowe in connection with the cherie beasley case
01:09:40
she had told the operator i know a guy going through therapeutic dealings who has a history of sex
01:09:48
offenses both obscene and willful exposure and approaching young girls the woman's reference to therapeutic
01:09:59
dealings was curious then one investigator noticed something while scrutinizing court reports from
01:10:07
lowe's various charges one of the expert witnesses listed was a psychotherapist by the name of margaret
01:10:16
hobbs margaret had made the decision to call crimestoppers the same day that she
01:10:26
discovered robert lowe drove a blue toyota corolla margaret's gut instinct that he was
01:10:32
involved coupled with his sudden reappearance in her office made her sick with worry
01:10:40
when she realized he drove the exact same car as sheree beasley's abductor she knew she needed to alert the
01:10:47
authorities her tip-off combined with detective gusky's suspicious conversation with lo
01:10:55
and his prior criminal record led to lowe becoming the investigation's prime suspect exactly one month after cherie's
01:11:04
abduction detectives searched lowe's home questioned his family and took him in for interrogations multiple times over
01:11:14
the following months detectives found out he had no alibi for the day of cherie's disappearance and
01:11:22
had told multiple people at his church that he was headed for rosebud after his initial interview low was
01:11:31
placed under 24-hour surveillance and it quickly became evident he was a compulsive serial
01:11:38
predator investigators watched as he went to public areas to masturbate or approach schoolgirls
01:11:47
a search of the work car he drove revealed that lowe had collected a number of newspaper clippings about the
01:11:53
carmen chan abduction some words were underlined and he had jotted down some bizarre notes of his
01:12:01
own although they didn't believe he was involved in carmen's case as his offending fit an entirely different
01:12:09
pattern the clippings indicated low was fixated by the girl's abduction his wife confirmed that low had been
01:12:18
obsessed with the carmen chan case and spoke about it so much that she'd had to ask him to stop
01:12:26
despite all of this there was no tangible physical evidence tying him to cheray beasley
01:12:34
this didn't change when her body was found in september nothing belonging to low was recovered
01:12:41
from cherie's remains or the crime scene nor did investigators ever find the pink
01:12:48
helmet that cherie had been wearing when she was taken a nine-year-old girl who lived in red
01:12:55
hill later came forward to say she'd seen a pink bike helmet lying discarded in some bushes near her school sometime
01:13:03
in the spring but it had disappeared by the following day detectives knew they needed to work
01:13:14
harder to definitively link lowe to cherie beasley and they believed their best bet was margaret hobbes
01:13:22
her anonymous tip-off indicated she was already suspicious of him meaning he likely made incriminating
01:13:29
statements during their appointments two detectives paid margaret a visit to explain that they were looking into
01:13:38
robert lowe she cooperated with them but she wasn't able to offer the definitive evidence
01:13:45
they were looking for so the investigators decided to go a step further without margaret's knowledge they
01:13:55
secretly installed a small microphone in a van above her office ceiling her sessions with robert lowe were all
01:14:04
recorded and detectives listened in on them from a flat in the building next door
01:14:10
each time lowe edged closer to making a confession when he discussed pleading guilty to
01:14:16
manslaughter and the spot where he thought cheree might have been found investigators heard every word
01:14:26
in late march of 1992 detectives reached out to margaret and told her that one of
01:14:32
them would be acting as her liaison detective alex bartch would speak to her regularly about the case and a debrief
01:14:40
with her after her sessions with lo upon sitting down with margaret for the first time detective bartsch noted that
01:14:49
she seemed uncomfortable discussing one of her clients with a police officer at the same time he could see
01:14:58
that the strain of working with low was taking a heavy toll on margaret she seemed relieved to have someone she
01:15:06
could confide in about it all in early april lowe made his first genuine confession to margaret
01:15:16
telling her if you want me to tell you the truth i can tell you how i was involved
01:15:24
yes i could tell you how i was involved unaware that investigators were already listening in on her conversations with
01:15:35
their prime suspect the distressed margaret in turn spoke with detective barge she informed him that lowe had made what
01:15:45
she believed to be in admission and she had another appointment with him that day
01:15:52
she would keep him posted on what happened next later that same day detective bartsch
01:16:01
and his colleague detective andrew guskey sat quietly in the flat next door as they listened in on margaret's latest
01:16:09
session with robert lowe to their shock low began to detail how he had driven to rosebud on saturday
01:16:18
june 29 1991 and picked up cherie beasley he described how she had panicked and choked to death in his passenger seat
01:16:29
and the way he had subsequently disposed of her body then he told margaret he needed to visit
01:16:36
red hill seeing the exact spot where he had left the little girl might jog his memory
01:16:43
further the two detectives stared at each other they finally had him detective bartsch and another officer
01:16:55
soon paid a visit to margaret's office when she told them of her plans to drive low to red hill they told her they would
01:17:04
need to monitor the trip for her own safety detectives would tail them out to the
01:17:10
location and margaret would be given a panic button she could press if she began to feel unsafe
01:17:18
but without her knowledge the police also did something else they installed a covert listening device
01:17:26
in her car so that they could hear everything that was said throughout the journey
01:17:34
a few days after margaret took low to red hill detectives obtained a statement about the trip from margaret
01:17:42
the experience had fundamentally changed something in her before she had felt a professional
01:17:51
discomfort about working with the police against her client now she felt she had to help hold him
01:17:58
responsible for the terrible thing he had done she began recording her sessions with
01:18:05
him though she didn't tell anyone she was doing so meanwhile the detectives collated their
01:18:12
evidence on march 31 1993 they finally struck arresting robert lowe at a backpacker
01:18:22
hostel he was now staying at in the melbourne suburb of saint kilda he refused to speak with them instead
01:18:30
insisting they call his lawyer then he proudly told detective alex bartch that he was just like jesus
01:18:40
christ he would have to endure a terrible trial but all would be right in the end
01:18:47
as described in the book the evil detective bart retorted that low was half right
01:18:54
but he had no chance of being resurrected when lowe later appeared in melbourne's
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magistrates court he was greeted by a crowd of journalists news crews and angry members of the public
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cherie beasley's mother kerry had travelled to the city so she could see the man accused of her daughter's murder
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finally in handcuffs when low was brought into the dark the grief-stricken kerry screamed abuse and
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attempted to run over to him before being restrained robert lowe was charged with the
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abduction and murder of sheree beasley denied baal and taken into remand to await his trial
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when it came to the details of cherie's murder investigators had never believed lowe's version of events
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his story that she had agreed to get into his car directly contrasted with the description given by shane
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the little boy who cherie had been playing with no doubt lo's claim that she had choked
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while panicking was another attempt to cover up the truth of his crimes as cherie's remains had been so badly
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decomposed it was impossible to determine exactly what she had endured or what caused her death
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as detailed in the book the evil three weeks after lowe was charged detective alex bartch received some
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intriguing information from a colleague in victoria police's prison squad an inmate at melbourne's notorious
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pentridge prison was sharing a cell with robert lowe while the latter was awaiting trial
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peter reed was a violent criminal who had been convicted of murdering a police officer in 1982
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during a series of conversations with reed lowe had supposedly made some admissions about cherie's murder
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providing a different version of events than he'd given to police depending on a jailhouse snitch for
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evidence was always risky those who knew reed said he was dangerous manipulative and not to be
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trusted but the information he was providing also seemed consistent with the robert
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lowe police had become familiar with through his psychotherapy sessions it was agreed that peter reed would wear
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a wire and attempt to cajole more information from his cellmate reed's strategy was to tell lo that he
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knew a lawyer who could create a fake story for lowe's defense but only if he was given a true account
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of what had really happened he needed to draw upon facts when designing a false narrative
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low fell for it he gave reed a very different story admitting that he'd seen cherie in the
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area on several previous occasions before abducting her each time she had been riding her bike
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to the local shops where she sometimes ran errands for her mother lo had followed her making a note of
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where she lived and decided to abduct her he went to rosebud on june 29 1991 with
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the express purpose of taking the little girl after forcing cheree into his car he
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drove her to a remote farmland area where he brutally raped her cherie had cried and begged to be taken
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home to her mother lo maintained that while she had choked to death this hadn't been due to a panic
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attack instead it had resulted directly from him assaulting her when cheray started to choke lo removed
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the pink bike helmet that she was still wearing he later discarded it somewhere after realizing that cherie was dead
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lo drove down a country road and pushed and kicked her underwear clad body into the stormwater drain where she was later
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found his semen had stained most of cherie's clothing so he threw the garments away in a
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rubbish skip when reed met with detective bartsch after obtaining this confession the
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detective noticed how pale and sick the convicted criminal appeared listening to lowe's admissions over the
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course of multiple days had clearly taken a severe mental and emotional toll on him
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despite this he thanked detective barch for giving him the opportunity to assist
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in convicting a child killer robert lowe's trial finally began in october 1994 more than three years after
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sheree beasley was murdered the prosecution alleged that the crime had been carefully planned and
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premeditated by lowe who clearly had a fascination with such crimes as evidenced by his obsession with the chan
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case margaret hobbs was the prosecution's star witness she testified over four days and
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sections of the secret recordings that had been made of her sessions with lo were played for the court
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low's soulmate peter reed also gave evidence about his own taped conversations with lo
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as detailed in the evil everyone present in the courtroom listened attentively as
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reed made a personal address to the jury he described himself as one of the worst
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criminals in the system but said that even he was shocked and angered by cherie's murder
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that was why he had decided to testify for the prosecution this admission held raid in good stead
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with the jury despite the defense's attempts to undermine his credibility as a witness
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throughout the duration of the trial robert lowe showed a little emotion he sat in the dark with a blank
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expression as one reporter who was quoted in the evil wrote the only hint of feeling behind his
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perspective and grey bearded visage was a nervous facial twitch it surfaced when witnesses gave evidence
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that sat uncomfortably with his version of events a month after the trial began the jury retired to consider their
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verdict after five hours they returned they had found robert lowe guilty of abducting and murdering cherie beasley
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when cherie's mother kerry heard the verdict she cried out suffer low cherie got her revenge this time
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rod in hell the public gallery clapped and cheered lo's face remained impassive but he
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blinked several times upon learning his fate his ex-wife lorraine fainted and the
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couple's two sons rushed to her aid followed shortly by paramedics the sentencing judge teared up as he
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gave robert lowe life in prison for murder and 15 years for the abduction charge
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he refused to give a minimum term describing the trial as the most harrowing he had ever experienced
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addressing low directly he stated what you did was every child's fear and every parent's nightmare
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when robert lowe was removed from the courtroom kerry shouted just remember lo cherie got a death sentence
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you've still got your life despite bringing a child killer to justice margaret hobbs had battled with
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her decision to assist the police and then testify against him as a psychotherapist she felt she had an
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obligation to keep the things her clients told her in confidence and had indicated to robert lowe that she would
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never disclose what went on during their sessions but she was so disturbed by the things
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he told her and the brutality of his actions she felt she had no choice but to help the investigation
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many praised margaret hobbs for her actions while others criticized her for breaking patient therapist
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confidentiality she accepted what her critics had to say content in the knowledge that she had
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done what she knew to be right in 1997 robert lowe lodged an appeal against his conviction arguing that
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evidence from his appointments with margaret shouldn't have been allowed at trial due to confidentiality issues
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his appeal was rejected and the court made clear that public interest overrides confidentiality in situations
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where an individual in therapy has committed a serious crime margaret hobbs was left
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traumatized by her dealings with robert lowe learning of the terrible things he had
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done took a serious toll on her health and well-being and she suffered insomnia and nightmares
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she wrote of the experience i took to staring at children who are judged to be aged about six watching
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their movements and imagining one day i found a little lost girl who was about this age
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she had lost her mother and was sobbing and stuttering out her name we found her mother and i sat in my car
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and cried aware of the terror of the child and having lost her mother for ten minutes
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margaret began working on a book about the case then almost six years after cherie's
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murder on january 17 1996 margaret and her husband were driving home when her husband blacked out behind
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the wheel their car ran off the road and hit a fence killing margaret instantly in the wake of margaret's death
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journalist and author andrew rule completed the book she had been working on it was titled the evil and published
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under both their names the title was chosen because margaret's dealings with lo convinced her that she
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had quote encountered the face of evil in human form detective alex bartch who worked closely
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with margaret during the investigation wrote a foreword for the book he described her as someone driven by
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the desire to serve the common good regardless of personal cost in life margaret hobbs was loved by
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those who knew her in death she is mourned by them as of mid-2021 robert lowe remains alive
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and incarcerated for his crimes with his file marked never to be released he has continued to maintain his
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innocence from behind bars and on the 23rd anniversary of cherie's murder he wrote a letter begging authorities to
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reinvestigate the case was extremely distressed by this action telling 7 news he is evil
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he's not a man after cherie's murder kerry found a living in rosebud too painful
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being in the neighborhood constantly reminded her of what had happened to her firstborn child
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she moved to another area of the mornington peninsula with her partner stephen and cherie's little sisters
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in the lounge room of their new home was a small shrine to cherie five photographs of her in a frame with
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the words our little angel at the top another large portrait of cheree hung from a nearby wall
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for years the pink bicycle that cherie had loved so much was kept in victoria police's headquarters in melbourne in a
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conference room alongside boxes of files from the case kerry made a point of visiting the
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location in red hill where cherie's body had been found explaining that she had wanted to be in
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the same place where cherie last was once cherie was laid to rest at mornington cemetery kerry and her other
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two daughters would visit her headstone regularly cherie's sisters would bring gifts and
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chat to cherie sometimes when kerry found herself struggling late at night she visited
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alone the cemetery gates were locked after hours but kerry would park her car outside and talk aloud to her daughter
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in the hopes she could hear her kerry married stephen and the couple had a daughter together
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in an interview with the journalist from the age kerry explained that her new baby helped
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keep her occupied but one hundred percent of the time i always have cherie in the back of my mind
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nothing will ever replace her or be like cherie was she was just so special words cannot explain
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