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[Music] two weeks ago we covered the case of Lisa Marie young we are back on Victoria
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Island this week a one and a half hour drive south of nanano to Victoria located on the southern tip of Vancouver
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Island British Columbia Canada a place where there is one degree of separation between people everyone is connected to
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everyone to a certain extent [Music] twenty-four-year-old Lindsay boo Zach was absolutely loved and treasured by
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her family and many friends she was a spectacular young woman who could make friends with anybody and was loved by
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everyone Lindsay pursued a career that was a natural fit for her it suited her lover people and her
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popularity her father Jeff Busey AK has been in the industry for 30 years Lindsay landed a job at Remax commotions
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real estate in Victoria the Remax Comeau Sam has multiple offices around the Greater Victoria area Lindsay lived in
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Victoria with her boyfriend at Jason's a Lowe who was a mortgage broker who also
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had a real estate license and was deeply connected to that world Jason's mother Shirley Zola was a manager of Remax
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commotions real estate where Lindsay worked Lindsay was smart and driven really focused on her career and wanted to
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succeed as a real estate agent a call she received from a new client on the 31st of January 2008 really got her
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attention the call was from a female she told Lindsay that her husband had just gotten a transfer to Victoria and they
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needed to look for a new house they wanted a home near the city ready to move in - they wanted a house with at
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least three bedrooms three bathrooms a large master bedroom and a separate area for a nanny and they were in a rush they
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were headed to the island on the ferry that weekend that was staying for three days to look at places and they wanted
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to buy something within that three-day period what really got Lindsay's attention was the price range they were
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looking at up to $1,000,000 2008 the economy wasn't doing so great suddenly a mystery woman rings up and
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wants a million-dollar house within three days this was massive although she was excited at the prospect of her new
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big-money clients there was something nagging at her something that wasn't quite right about the call the female
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caller spoke with an accent but Lindsay couldn't quite put her finger on what the accent works
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she described it as kind of Spanish but not really to Lindsay it sounded like the caller was faking the accident
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Lindsay was nervous and apprehensive she was a junior real estate agent just starting young why had these mystery
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clients called her Lindsay did ask the female caller that question and she said a previous client of Lindsay's made the
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recommendation Lindsay called that previous client to check but she was out of luck
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her previous client was out of town and she couldn't be contacted at first Lindsay struggled to find a house that
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matched what her clients wanted once she felt did was a four-bedroom four-bathroom executive home at seven a
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no two d'souza place in the upmarket Victoria suburb of Saanich the listing price for the house was 964 thousand
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dollars the client said they would be headed to the island on Saturday the second of February on a later ferry and
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they asked to meet Lindsay straight at the house at 5:30 p.m. on the day of the viewing Lindsay got another call from
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her mystery clients to confirm the booking but this time it wasn't from the female it was from a male the male said
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his wife wasn't feeling well and wouldn't be attending so just to expect him there before meeting the couple at
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the house Lindsay had a late lunch with her boyfriend Jason Zelo at a restaurant
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called sauce Lindsay had been expressing her concerns about the call and the couple to her friends and family she
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called her dad who told her to make sure there was somebody with her at the viewing that somebody was Jason Jason
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assured Lindsay he would be there and encouraged her to go get the million dollar sale they finished the lunch and
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paid the bill at 4:24 p.m. from source they left separately Jason telling Lindsay he would be at the
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viewing Jason left and went to see clients at SH C which was nearby he was working on a deal there SH C is an auto
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shop he arrived there at 4:29 p.m. Lindsay is believed to have gone home to change her clothes
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Jason left s HC at 5:30 p.m. he left there with his mortgage partner Cullen Oakman who also played in his hockey
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team they weren't really close friends as such they were business partners who played on the same hockey team they are
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captured on security camera getting into Jason's Range Rover at 5:30 p.m. Jason is seen walking to the vehicle
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next to Cullen Cullen gets in the passenger side of the vehicle while Jason is standing right next to him
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almost as if he was escorting him Jason and turns looked up at the security camera and walks around to the driver's
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side Jason then sent Lindsay a text message saying I'll come meet you and I'll be 10 to 15 minutes or so Lindsay
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had expressed her concerns about the clients and the viewing something about the call had made her apprehensive and
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she requested Jason meet her at the viewing Jason doesn't contact her until 5:30 p.m. when the viewing was due to
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start saying he's 10 to 15 minutes away as captured on the security footage in phone records
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Lindsay replied to Jason's text message okay I'll see you in a bit I've got to go the Mexicans are here the Mexicans
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was Lindsey's nickname for the couple at 5:29 p.m. Lindsay had accessed the real
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estate lockbox at 1702 de Souza place de Souza place is a small cul-de-sac Street
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the house itself was on the corner block of de Souza and Torquay Drive at 5:30 p.m. when Jason is underneath the
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security camera getting into his Range Rover Lindsay was seen to greet the mystery couple by the back of her car in
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the driveway of the house there was no other car in the driveway Lindsay and the mystery couple then make their way
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inside the house Jason starts making his way but has to call his brother Ryan Zelo for directions
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despite Lindsay's concern about the viewing and that they had just had lunch together he didn't know how to get there
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and had the ring brother Ryan to find out at 5:38 p.m. Jason sends another text message to Lindsay just a couple of
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minutes away Lindsay never opened that message at 5:41 p.m. Lindsay's blackberry made a
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phone call where the police believe this was a pocket dog a direct result of Lindsay being attacked the buttons being
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pressed during the attack it's within that window of 538 p.m. to 541 p.m. that police believe Lindsay boozy AK was
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murdered at 5:45 p.m. Jason and Cowan driving to the Sousa place Jason drove past the house and he and Cullen noticed
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movement at the door it was getting dark and the lights were run in the house they saw silhouettes through the opaque
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glass of the front door because it was opaque glass they couldn't get a clear look they couldn't say for sure how many
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people were at the door Jason drove up to the end of the cul-de-sac and parked his Range Rover facing away from the
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house Jason still had a view of it in the rear view mirror they stayed in Jason's Range Rover for 10 minutes at
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5:55 p.m. jason drove out of the souza place and turned right onto Torquay Drive parking along the side of the
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house Jason did this because he didn't want to be the meddling boyfriend there was a large fence and trees and
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shrubbery so really no view of the house at all from where he parked about 10 minutes later Jason sent another text
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message to Lindsay are you okay Lindsay didn't respond Jason and : then got out of a car and walked up to the front door
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they found it locked Jason could see Lindsay's shoes in the foyer through the opaque glass of the
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front door the time is now 6:05 p.m. Jason and Cohen had been there for 20 minutes and this is the first time they
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got out of the car and approached the house Jason checked the lockbox to see if there was a key there but there
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wasn't there was an electronic keypad for the garage door Jason called his mother Shirley and asked if she knew the
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code for the guy surely didn't know it but said she would make a call to say she could get it and
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Shirley rang Jason back quickly saying she wasn't able to get the code Jason started to panic and called 9-1-1 he
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told the operator that his girlfriend was in the house doing a viewing the door was locked and he couldn't get in
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Jason gave the address and said he was going to break in Jason boosted : over the fence : gain
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entry via the already opened back patio doors he walked through the house and unlocked the front door
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Jason quickly push past : as he was opening the door he ran straight up the stairs and : stayed downstairs Jason
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found Lindsay straightaway in an upstairs bedroom Lindsay had been viciously murdered stabbed over 40 times
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throat cut Jason tried to give her CPR another call was made to 9-1-1 at 6:00 11:00 p.m. the
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police were already on their way responding to the first 9-1-1 call when police arrived to Jason and Cohen were
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waving their arms in the upstairs bedroom window the police went into the home up to the bedroom and took both
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Jason and Colin to the police station separately police secured the crime scene and deployed k-9 units to try and
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track the killers but they didn't pick up much leaving police to believe the killers escaped in a vehicle parked on
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torquay Drive neither Jason nor : heard or saw The Killers leave what motive could somebody have to lure a young real
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estate agent to her death like that robbery was quickly ruled out there was nothing in the house for Steele every
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room was completely empty it was for sale and ready to move in - and Lindsay's purse watch wallet and money
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were all left at the scene there was no evidence of sexual assault either a forensic examination located foot prints
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and finger prints matching Jason and : which confirm they were telling the truth with their story as to how they
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came to be inside the house the police are extremely tight-lipped about it but they located DNA samples at
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the crime scene as well just weeks before her murder Lindsay had gotten breast enlargements Tom had been spent
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by her attacker to mutilate these they also found three fence boards had been kicked out on the back fence of the
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house he could have walked off the back patio veered off to the right and walked
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through that gap in the fence the gap led you to a spot behind trees and shrubs where you wouldn't be seen from the road
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from there you can make your way onto Torquay Drive into a getaway vehicle or over into the back neighbor's yard in
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garage police canvassed the area which is when they located the witnesses who saw Lindsay greeting the couple at the
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front of the house in the driveway about 5:30 p.m. Lindsay shook their hands and appeared
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to be introducing herself leading police to believe she hadn't met them before it
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was clear that Lindsay had been lured to the scene of her murder by this couple so who were they
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one witness was able to assist police with a sketch of the female suspect she was described as Caucasian aged 35 to 40
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years old with short blonde hair police suspect that this could have actually been a short cropped blonde week she was
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wearing a bright colorful dress that really stood out it was white black and either red or
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pink colored with a distinctive pattern the male was described as Caucasian six feet tall medium build dark hair and it
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was also well-dressed wearing a light to medium Breann colored jacket the sketch
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and descriptions of the couple weren't released to the public until the first anniversary of Lindsay's murder in 2009
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the police saying they waited until the one-year anniversary in order to maximize exposure police were able to
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find the phone number that the mystery couple had used to contact Lindsay it was stored in her blackberry under their
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nickname the Mexicans the number belonged to a cell phone which was purchased at a convenience store in
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Vancouver in late November 2007 due to the time that it passed there was no surveillance tape available of that
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purchase the phone was a pay to talk phone the only registration required was the
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type in your name and address online and any old name and address would do the name used to register the phone was
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Paulo Rodriguez which is believed to be a fake name the address used was legitimate but it belonged to a business
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in Vancouver believed to be completely unrelated just an address picked at random
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despite being bought six weeks earlier the phone was only activated days before the murder it was activated in Vancouver
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in late January 2008 and that's when the first calls to Lindsay were made the phone then traveled to Victoria from
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Vancouver 24 hours before Lindsay's murder this information was gathered through phone tower records the phone
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was used to make six calls to Lindsay after her murder it was never used again this shows planning and organization but
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why Lindsay had no known enemies she didn't lead a high-risk lifestyle she was a much-loved 24 year old real
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estate agent who got along with everybody the theory is that her killers were hired or arranged by somebody close to
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Lindsay so who called it Lindsay's father Jeff Busey AK could only think of two scenarios when the news was first
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broken to him her boyfriend Jason Zelo or her ex-boyfriend Matt McDuff police were on the same page and focused in on
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those two in the early part of the investigation Matt Macduff was Lindsay's ex-boyfriend
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they dated from 2001 until 2006 he was extensively questioned by police about the murder at the time of Lindsay's
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murder they had been separated for almost two years and had both moved on to new relationships they had no contact
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with each other for months before the murder Matan acknowledges that their relationship wasn't always a happy one
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it was at times stormy and rocky Lindsay could be fiery despite that they had an
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enormous connection which they felt was a deep love that was irreplaceable there
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is no evidence at all pointing to Matt no reason to suspect him at the time of Lindsay's murder he was at a location
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over an hour away with his new girlfriend and her family however information was put forward by somebody
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that just 24 hours before her murder Lindsay disclosed she was afraid of men this information came from Shirley's
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Ayla the mother of the prime suspect at the time Jason Salem Shirley is the only person
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who has ever heard Lindsay say she was afraid of math in fact Lindsay's friends have a totally different story they say
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Matt had a bit of a hold over Lindsay they had a connection few would experience but their relationship got
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too dramatic and they both knew it had to hint Jason's a low Lindsey's current boyfriend the man whose girlfriend was
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nervous about meeting this mystery couple and requested him at the house the man who parked past the house in the
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cul de sac for 10 minutes then drove out of the cul-de-sac and parked around the
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corner for another 10 minutes meaning he waited 20 minutes before approaching the
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house and he was 15 minutes late say Lindsay had been inside for 35 minutes at the viewing she was nervous
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about before Jason checked on it police found Jason hunched over Lindsay covered
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in her blood he was handcuffed taken to the police station question for hours and to ask to give a
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DNA sample which he didn't do and refuses to this day a few days later Jason went with police back to 1702 de
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souza place and participated in a videotape - reenactment of his movements that day the following audio is from
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that reenactment so today I pushed it open okay he was already in front of me yeah and I
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said I'm running upstairs and I was yelling I was Yellin on Lindsey Lindsey Lindsey and where did : girl she went
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straight at your work straight ahead of that okay or just hang on a sec there so
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he was ready yep and you you went running upstairs yeah okay so let me case let me go upstairs first
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and then you can talk to your wait well the stairs envelope to the yet right you
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okay so I was running inside the house I just came running up the stairs do you remember on the bastard ever done
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anything you smell anything put yourself back there the time I got to from the door upstairs at one two seconds okay so
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your nose was running upstairs yeah I got it walking the second I open the door it was a fog bedroom full bathroom
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executive home in the last months of her life Lindsay was telling family and friends
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she was thinking about breaking up with Jason as soon as several real estate deals closed in December 2007 six weeks
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before her murder Lindsay flew to Calgary Alberta to visit her father Jeff during that visit she
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told him that her relationship of Jason wasn't working she missed Matt she had made a horrible mistake and didn't know
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what to do about it Lindsay's friends confirmed that's how she felt but not long after making those
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comments she went on a ski trip with Jason and his family Lindsay's friends say on this trip
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Lindsay softened reconsidered and decided to try and make it work with Jason Jason says there is no truth to
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the stories at all that Lindsay was ready to leave him Jason was described as being unemotional
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after Lindsay's death no tears when asked about this jason says people showed their emotions in different ways
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and that he is deeply affected he loved Lindsay still thinks about her every day and once the case solved as
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soon as possible Saanich police have said publicly Jason Zelo is no longer considered a suspect
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Matt Macduff was never really considered a suspect at all as part of the investigation police have conducted
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1,500 interviews followed up on 750 tip offs and executed 30 search warrants but
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no arrests have ever been made and no suspects have ever been named publicly by the police so that there is your
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typical rundown of the story of Lindsay Busey AK but let's have a look at some other information and some other people
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that may or may not be related to this story I understand that some of what I say may seem totally off topic and you
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may even get a little bit lost but you're gonna have to stick with me here and pay attention where we are going
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isn't easy to get your head around but just remember what I said at the start of the show Victoria is one degree of
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separation between people everyone is connected to everyone to a certain extent as you've already heard Lindsay
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was dating Matt McDuff between 2001 into 2006 Matt McDuff has a twin brother Malcolm
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the McDuff brothers are hardworking and successful Matt and Lindsay had a connection that most people would never
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get to experience the McDuff twins have some colorful friends some of their friends and acquaintances were involved
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in activities that led to raids on the British Columbia legislature this was due to a drug scandal in British
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Columbia government parliament buildings more serious some of these people were linked to the British Columbia Rail
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sell-off where political corruption was to such an extent that the premier of British Columbia resigned and the
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current government is refusing to make the drugs in Parliament and rail sell-off
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public just think about that for a second such massive stories and not only has it been barely reported on the file
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is a sealed shut now where are we going with this well to try and keep it as simple as possible just now the McDuff
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twins had links to some of the people involved in these scandals we aren't suggesting their players are involved in
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anything illegal at all but they had associates who were involved and the files are still sealed we don't really
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know the full extent of it how is this relevant Lindsay was in a relationship with mat Macduff when all
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of this was going down in fact during the investigation both Matt and Lindsay's phones were tucked
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shortly after breaking up with Matt the Lindsay started her real estate agent course Ryan Zelo was on that same course
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pretty soon suggestions from Ryan that they should study together turned into him fully hitting on her yo Ryan was
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very keen on Lindsay and introduced her to his mother Shirley Zelo surely gave Lindsay her job at Remax commotions real
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estate where she was the manager then Lindsay caught the eye of Jason Zelo pretty soon Jason constantly popping
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into the office with coffees for Lindsay turned into a few dates which turned into a relationship the early part of
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the relationship went well and they decided to move in together Shirley Zelo bought them a waterfront
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property on Shawnigan Lake which is about a 20-minute drive north from Victoria that was in the early summer of
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2007 it was worth 1.3 million dollars and she spent another 250,000 on renovations and furnishings but it
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wasn't long before Lindsay started to see Shirley Zelo was going to be a bit of a nightmare
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she described her as being controlling and demanding with massive mood swings and lots of anger not only that she
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described to Jason as controlling and too possessive Lindsay wanted out she said she was done and was moving back to
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Victoria Linsey started looking for her own place she wanted to be downtown close to the
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gym and close to her friends but Jason was able to woo her back and they decided to leave the place at Shawnigan
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Lake and they moved to a condo at a place called shutters located on the Victoria Inner Harbor the condo was
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owned by Ryan Zelo and they had to kick out the tenant who was already there Shirley's a lay spent another $70,000 to
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repaint and refurnished the condo they moved there in the fall of 2007 but it didn't last long
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three months later Lindsay was freaking out she couldn't do it anymore in December 2007 Lindsay flew to Calgary
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to visit her father Jeff Busey AK remember that's when she tells Jeff that things aren't working out with Jason she
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still love Matt and she had made a terrible mistake she had a few deals she was waiting to close and wanted to get
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those deals done before leaving Jason well Lindsay told Jeff something else she mentioned she saw something she
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shouldn't have Lindsay didn't elaborate on what she had seen what was it about a
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week after Lindsay returned home on the 22nd of December 2007 she was with her friend Nikki at her and Jason's condo
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they had just returned from an idea and it was the early hours of the morning she told Nikki all about her problems
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with Jason and that she was going to break up with him Jason was asleep at a time and Lindsay wasn't concerned about
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what she was saying but Jason wasn't asleep he was standing up with his ear on the bedroom door listening in Nikki
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and Lindsay busted him Nikki freaked out and Wren Lindsay went after her Jason started calling Lindsay but she didn't
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answer that didn't stop Jason no he kept going and going making about 30 calls in total
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Lindsay never picked up so Jason then called his mum Shirley Zelo on Christmas Day Lindsay received
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extremely expensive gifts from Jason and then she was taken away on a ski trip to
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Whistler that's when she tells friends she's softening and reconsidering and maybe
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will try and make her work with Jason and all of this leads us into the story of the biggest drug bust in the history
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of our Berta [Music] on the 22nd of January 2008 11 days before Lindsey's murder 25 kilos of
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cocaine was seized from a house in Calgary on the 28th of January 2008 another 42 kilos of cocaine was seized
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from the same house the cellphone used in Lindsay's murder was activated soon after and the call
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from the female with the strange accent was then made to Lindsey within later months another 13 kilos of cocaine was
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seized from that same investigation making that total bust 80 kilos worth about eight million dollars fourteen
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people face charges in total two of those 14 faced conspiracy to traffic charges Ericsson Delhi Alcazar was one
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of the men to receive a conspiracy to traffic charge Ericsson Delhi Alcazar from Victoria has
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four brothers Edwardson also known as sandy Jefferson Ericsson and Emerson their uncle's are
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Antonio Lopez and Sorella Lopez sorello Lopez is currently in jail on drug trafficking charges but at the time of
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Lindsey's murder he was around they all live around Victoria let's have a look at what the Delhi Alcazar brothers are
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known for Ericson who went down in the biggest drug bust in the history of our Berta also has a record for assault
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resisting a peace officer breaching a conditional sentence aggravated assault and breaching probation Eldridge then is
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known for assault causing bodily harm and breaching probation jefferson is known for assault causing bodily harm
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driving offences breaching probation and he has two charges for possession for the purpose of trafficking and one
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charge for trafficking in a controlled substance Emerson is known for assault with a weapon
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aggravated assault causing bodily harm possession of an unauthorized firearm and breach of undertaking a week after
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Ericson daily Alcazar gets busted the cell phone used in the murder of Lindsay is activated
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six weeks before that drug bust Lindsay had been in Calgary and while she was there she made contact with Erickson del
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Alcazar they were both from Victoria and Lindsay knew a lot of people plus the del casar brothers are good buddies with
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the McDuff brothers yes that is Lindsay's ex I'm referring to Matt McDuff it's believed her contact with Erickson
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daily Alcazar was by phone only and the nature of their contact is unknown from their stem the rumors that Lindsay could
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have been the snitch in that investigation but that's not true the police investigation into that drug
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operation in Calgary started before Lindsay was even there when she made contact with Erickson the investigation
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was already well underway she wasn't the snitch but what if you wanted Lindsay dead then suddenly that opportunity
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presents itself Lindsay visits Calgary not long after that an eight million dollar drug bust
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and she had contact with the guy who got busted or what if he didn't necessarily
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want Lindsay dead but you knew about her visit and you knew you would be out there use it a lot of money was lost a
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lot of people angry scrambling panicking finger-pointing threats being made what
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if a wrong had to be made too right everyone answers to someone even though she had nothing to do with it you could
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make it seem like she did those are just a couple of the theories flying around or maybe her trip and contact with
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Erickson and the drug bust is just a complete coincidence but a week after that bus the cellphone used in Lindsay's
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murder was activated Lindsay receives the call from the woman with the strange and possibly fake
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accent two days later she's viciously murdered let's have a look at a couple of other
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friends of the del alcazar brothers edgar Acevedo otherwise known as vide Vedas good friends with the del
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Alcazar's the local word on the street around Victoria is that vehicle allegedly be involved in some illegal
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drug activity son they are suspected anyway a good body of vid and the del Alcazar's as well is Zachary Scott
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Matheson otherwise known as ze some suspected Ziggy could allegedly be involved in some illegal drug activity
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as well let's have a look at what Ziggy has been charged with over the years trafficking in narcotics aggravated
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assault assault with a weapon assaulting a peace officer possession of a controlled substance trafficking in a
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controlled substance breach of probation possession for the purposes of trafficking murder use firearm
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committing an indictable offense and disobeying a court order and the last charge that appears on Ziggy's record is
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the sixth of June 2013 possession for the purpose of trafficking with this last charge ze was arrested with his
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friend Ally Zoe from three locations police seized 13 kilos of marijuana two kilos of cocaine one kilo of crystal
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meth 10 litres of the date rape drug GHB 200 pills of ecstasy one kilo of a cutting agent 9 millimeter
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ammo scales our money counter and gun holsters guess who won in the house Ziggy was living in when he got busted
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with all those drugs surely Zelo surely owned it Ziggy rented it for 5 years after the bust Shirley came out publicly
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and said that neither her nor her family had any association with ze and had no idea what he was using her house for she
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said she couldn't be held responsible for the actions of their tenant but then you go on Facebook and see
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Ziggy played in the same hockey team as Jason and Ryan Zelo and they're smiling and posing for pictures together then
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you hear the stories that the sailors were always hanging out and are indeed very close to Zeki and to his good buddy
00:34:33
vid as well it's one of the larger drug busts to have happened on the lower island in some reports police are quoted
00:34:42
as saying these are solid mid-level guys other reports police are quoted as saying they are at the top of the chain
00:34:48
in Victoria who really knows it was Big D the way Ali Zoe has since pleaded guilty as part of his plea agreement he
00:34:58
doesn't have to testify as each trial Zoe was sentenced to two and a half years jail those in the know say that
00:35:06
sentence seemed pretty light considering the size of the bust we can only speculate why that may be Ziggy's trial
00:35:15
is set for later this year that has already been all sorts of delays and motions and whatever else so who knows
00:35:21
if it will actually go ahead when it is scheduled as Iggy's lawyer is Brad hick furred the same lawyer that the zola is
00:35:29
called straight after Lindsay boozy axe murder the same lawyer that is seen on the re-enactment video Jason did with
00:35:35
Saanich Police days after her murder also you remember when I was reading through some of Ziggy's criminal history
00:35:43
I mentioned a murder charge let's go through a quick rundown of that Ziggy was in a romantic relationship with a
00:35:51
girl Shannon their relationship ended in February in the year 2000 a few days after the split Shannon turned up to
00:35:59
liquid nightclub with a man by the name of Kevin black they appeared to be romantically together also present at
00:36:07
liquid nightclub was EE and his friend David Nabarro Ziggy wasn't happy seeing Shannon and
00:36:14
Kevin strutting into the nightclub holding hands there was tension after leaving the club Shannon and Kevin went
00:36:21
back to Shannon's place kevin was shot dead and Shannon was knee beaten to death
00:36:26
David Nabarro Lindsay you were both charged with Kevin's murder the Ziggy alone was charged with assaulting
00:36:33
Shannon with a weapon the weapon being a handgun Shannon was beaten to within an inch of
00:36:38
her life and was unrecognizable to her parents Shannon ended up surviving the attack
00:36:46
but died of a heroin overdose before the trial the word is that Shannon was known
00:36:51
more for her cocaine use than heroin after that the crown made an offer to Ziggy and David if someone pleads guilty
00:36:59
to the murder of Kevin black the other one will be led off and the person who pleads will get the minimum 10 years non
00:37:05
parole sentence at first - neither accept it then David started mentioning he was considering the idea his legal
00:37:15
counsel advised him no they were totally against it but David decided to take the
00:37:20
deal his counsel withdrew from representing him and David had to get new counsel he pled guilty and was
00:37:27
sentenced to life with a non-parole period of ten years the minimum as promised now back to the celos the
00:37:36
property at 1702 de souza place where Lindsay was killed was a new development the property developer Joe D'Souza had
00:37:44
just subdivided the land and was building new houses the house next door was still being constructed but the
00:37:51
builders packed up and left at 5:00 p.m. making 5:30 p.m. a good time to book a viewing in that area if you wanted to
00:37:58
ensure the minimum amount of people would be around Joe D'Souza was good friends with Paul Berghof Paul had moved
00:38:07
to Victoria from the Netherlands with his family he later split from his wife and hooked up with Shirley Zelo he was
00:38:15
still in a relationship with Shirley Zelo at the time of Lindsay's murder so Shirley's boyfriend Paul his good
00:38:22
buddies with Joe Joe is the developer who built 1702 D'Souza place where Lindsay was murdered after the murder
00:38:29
Jeff Busey AK confronted Joe D'Souza after being told Joe was overheard saying the [ __ ] got what she deserved
00:38:37
referencing Lindsey Joe denied making that comment a few years after the murder Joe's good buddy
00:38:45
Paul Shirley's now ex-boyfriend suddenly packed up sold his business interests and moved back to the Netherlands his
00:38:52
ex-wife and kids still remain in Victoria Paul isn't talking remember the three fence boards that were kicked out
00:39:00
along the re-offense of 1702 D'Souza place you could walk through the gap and not be seen from the road dude at the
00:39:07
trees and shrubs from there you could walk out on the Torquay Drive or you could go to the house behind the front
00:39:14
yard of the house behind connected to the backyard of 1702 de su the place the garage of that house behind was close by
00:39:22
as well this brings us to another story your theory of what happened that day the story of Terry Sheen's alleged
00:39:31
behavior Terry Shane lived in a house on Torquay Drive located behind the murder
00:39:36
house this is all alleged as thority various people online will tell you but on the day of Lindsay's murder Terry
00:39:45
Shane was said to be at home by himself most of the day his wife was with one of
00:39:50
their sons at a sporting tournament we will call him Jake their other son was in Vancouver visiting a friend we will
00:39:58
call him Dale that day Terry told his wife to take his car to the sporting tournament something that was unusual he
00:40:08
never usually let her drive his car that meant Terry would now be driving his wife's minivan Terry called Dale who was
00:40:16
in Vancouver and told him to get on the later ferry back to the island that Neil
00:40:22
meant that Terry jumped into his wife's minivan and left to pick up Dale from the ferry just before the cops arrived a
00:40:28
next-door responding to Lindsay's murder Terry picked up Dale who was expecting to go straight home but Terry had other
00:40:36
ideas Terry wanted to go to the sporting tournament and then out for dinner Dale didn't want to so Terry left him
00:40:44
and went to meet up with his wife and other son Jake who was still at the sporting tournament when Dale got back
00:40:51
to Torquay Drive and saw the cops and news crews everywhere he called Terry in a panic the cops even told Dale they had
00:40:58
to search their house as the killer could still be on the loose Dale relayed all this information to
00:41:04
Terry who didn't seem concerned at all he told our chili I can get something to eat
00:41:09
by the way Terry didn't tell his wife any of this so Terry and his wife head out for dinner with Jake which they
00:41:17
didn't really want to do either they'd been at the sporting tournament all day but Terry insisted Terry made no mention
00:41:25
of the cops and news crews next door no mention of their house getting searched Terry had been unemployed for a little
00:41:32
while he was fired from his last job due to some money issues he worked at Victoria Golf Club the
00:41:38
Victoria Golf Club is where the wake was held for Lindsay which was organized by
00:41:42
there's a Lowe's the day after Lindsay's murder Terry cleaned his wife's minivan gave it
00:41:48
a detail that story is what he's alleged by some Terry Sheen has never come forward to either confirm or to denooyer
00:41:57
: open remember him the business partner of Jason the word is that Kalyn and Jason weren't all that tight in fact
00:42:07
Colin was said to be somewhat surprised when Jason invited him out for dinner he didn't even really want to go Jason
00:42:14
had to plead with him so eventually Colin agreed turned up met Jason at SHC jumped in his Range Rover thinking no
00:42:24
headed out for dinner not knowing they were going to check on Lindsay Jason didn't mention that until though in the
00:42:32
car and already on the way when Jason made the call to his brother Ryan to get directions
00:42:38
Ryan was with a girl called Ashley lung sister - Michelle lung Michelle lung another one of these people said to
00:42:46
allegedly be involved in some criminal activity per record shows that she has been
00:42:52
charged with unlawful confinement or imprisonment and possession for the purpose of trafficking she was also a
00:42:59
witness in a murder trial in 2006 she lived a block and a half away from where Lindsay was killed and it's rumored
00:43:07
Ariane Victoria that she is very fond of a short cropped blonde week the timing of Lindsay's murder is pretty
00:43:14
interesting too as if there wasn't enough going on here the day before her murder Friday the 1st of February of
00:43:21
2008 7 experienced senior police officers retired from the Saanich Police Department including three detectives
00:43:30
one of which was their main senior lead detective who would have been calling the shots on Lindsay's case between
00:43:37
those seven officers they had a combined experience of two hundred and ten years
00:43:41
in policing so they all retire the day before Lindsay gets murdered there is a big retirement function that Friday
00:43:49
night the next day Lindsay a lot of their experienced guys had just left and now they have a brutal murder of a young
00:43:58
girl in a place not known for its brutal murders despite this Saanich police ran
00:44:05
with it refused to call back any of their experienced guys they never contacted any of them for help in fact
00:44:12
one approached the department and asked to be let back on to work it he was told
00:44:16
no they were fine they had it under control during the course of the investigation
00:44:22
the detectives working the case were locked away in a separate room access was monitored and extremely secure this
00:44:30
was done as Saanich police felt there may be a leak a few years after the murder
00:44:34
Shirley Zelo started dating an ex Saanich police officer there may be something to the location
00:44:41
of Saanich - in Victoria there are five different police departments that cover an area with a population of about
00:44:48
450,000 people it's thought that this causes a lot of fractured policing so the Attorney General implemented a new
00:44:58
strategy he formed the Vancouver Island integrated a major crime unit a specialized team of police major crime
00:45:05
investigators better equipped to deal with major crimes such as Lindsay's but Saanich police elected not to be a part
00:45:14
of that Major Crime Squad the reason they gave was that their homicide detectives solve most of their
00:45:19
cases on their own and in a cost-effective way during the course of Lindsay's investigation as Saanich
00:45:26
police officer was asked if maybe they should have joined that major crime unit he said no he didn't regret not joining
00:45:34
the unit and he didn't think the choice had anything to do with why Lindsay's case remains unsolved but retired RCMP
00:45:42
homicide investigator ray Kalin who used to provide support to these smaller departments has the view that rather
00:45:49
than err on the side of caution you want to err on the side of expending as much
00:45:53
effort in doing all that you can to solve the case he says the integrated units such as the
00:46:00
Vancouver Island integrated major crime unit can often provide help with unsolved files but it's up to Saanich
00:46:07
police if they want to help it's now been eight years no arrests have been made and they've never even
00:46:14
named a suspect after they quickly cleared the jason's Eila the Major Crime Unit can't take over Lindsay's case the
00:46:22
only one that has the authority to turn it over is the Saanich Police Department
00:46:26
and for unknown reasons they don't want to do that despite the fact that Geoff Busey AK was called into the station and
00:46:33
told that Lindsay's case is no longer being actively investigated and the officer in charge of the case detective
00:46:40
Horsley has been reassigned Saanich police refused to let go of Lindsay's file their case that's it
00:46:48
hopefully they reconsider especially when you consider the facts and now this becomes even stranger Saanich police are
00:46:57
now part of that integrated Major Crime Unit they recently joined up to it so now they are a part of that major crime
00:47:04
unit yet they still refuse to let go of Lindsay's fault even though they aren't actively investigating it and it's just
00:47:12
sitting there the day after Lindsay's murder 22 year old real estate agent Jasmine Parsons
00:47:22
got a call from a woman with a heavy accent the female caller said can you come over I want to list my house
00:47:29
Jasmine said okay what's your address the female caller said well you know what I'm not sure can I'll call you back
00:47:37
she never called back Jasmine Parsons is Jason Zelo his ex-girlfriend a few days
00:47:45
after that still only days after Lindsay's murder Lindsay's friend Nikki was woken up by a
00:47:50
phone call Nikki answered and a female speaking in a weird accent started talking and Nikki was still half asleep
00:47:58
so didn't catch what was being said but it didn't take long for her to be struck
00:48:02
with fear when she remembered Lindsay was called by a female with a strange accent
00:48:07
Nikki asked the caller who she was and what she wanted but the caller hung up Nikki was able to call the number back
00:48:15
she called it 20 to 30 times repeatedly before someone finally answered Shirley Zelo Nikki asked her what was going on
00:48:25
Shirley responded nothing this story is strongly denied by Shirley who says Nikki is crazy
00:48:33
when confronted about it Shirley said her office manager's name is Nikki and she strolled through her phone saw the
00:48:39
name Nikki and pressed it not realizing it was the wrong Micky when asked how and why she had Nikki's number being
00:48:48
Lindsay's friend Nikki not her office manager she said Jason must have put it in Nikki was the friend with Lindsay
00:48:56
that night they were in the condo when Jason was listening in on their conversation there is another
00:49:04
interesting story about Jason Zelo going around and his actions and what he said
00:49:10
when he was released from Saanich police station after Lindsay's murder police had his Range Rover seized and their
00:49:17
condo was locked down it's alleged by some he traveled to a friend's house where there were other people present as
00:49:24
well and he seemed to be petrified that bikers were coming after him it seems his fear was magnified because
00:49:32
of Lindsay's murder if this is true it's interesting that someone whose girlfriend was just savagely murdered
00:49:39
would instantly be terrified that bikers were coming up then why would he be thinking that instead of deeply mourning
00:49:47
the loss of Lindsay everyone else was crying and mourning deeply about Lindsay not wondering whether bikers were coming
00:49:54
after them obviously jason has never publicly stated this it's just another story circulating around Lindsay's case
00:50:03
and what he allegedly said once he was released from the police station now we go back to vid sorry I know I'm jumping
00:50:14
around a bit with this one and I understand this isn't the easiest story to get your head around but just
00:50:19
remember Victoria is a place where everyone is connected to everyone to a certain extent vids good buddy and close
00:50:27
associate is Madero Rivas Madero is also tight with the deli Alcazar's allegedly vid and Medardo were doing
00:50:37
quite well for themselves before Lindsay's motor flash cars and all the rest of it successful businessman but
00:50:45
since Lindsay's murder people say they haven't been doing so well financially now you're interested in true crime and
00:50:54
listen to true crime podcasts so I know that you know all about cell phone records and cell phone tower pinks well
00:51:03
yes that's where we're going now the murder phone was found to have traveled to Victoria via ferry the day before
00:51:11
Lindsay's murder I've been told that cell phone records show when that phone got to the island
00:51:18
vid Acevedo's phone allegedly pinged in the same location as the murder phone when it came in on the ferry the murder
00:51:27
phone and his phone are then said to have pinged off the same tower later that night as well the one that's close
00:51:34
to his house I have also been told that there are phone records that show four people all come together suddenly from
00:51:42
different parts of Victoria one hour after Lindsey's murder at which time all their phones started to ping together
00:51:50
the four people are allegedly video surveyed Oh Madonna Revis Edwardson and Eldrick sand daily Alcazar I haven't
00:52:01
seen these records I don't have them in my possession I'm just passing on the information that has been relayed to me
00:52:06
while researching this case so again those cellphone records are all very much allegedly in a place where
00:52:18
everybody knows everyone there'd be a chain a hierarchy what if somebody panicked went after Lindsey rush Li a
00:52:26
desperate attempt to right or wrong save face shift blame send a message maybe they didn't think it through that's just
00:52:36
another one of quite a few theories that are out there about this case anyway Ziggy is alleged Sylvain overheard
00:52:42
saying that Lindsey's murder was a big mistake Sony's police aren't currently working on the investigation the
00:52:50
officers have been reassigned it's not being actively worked but Jeff Busey Ark isn't sitting back and letting his
00:52:57
daughter's memory fade allowing her killers and conspirators to walk free each year there is a walk for justice
00:53:04
through Saanich in memory of Lindsey on the 31st of January 2016 Geoff muziek was in Victoria when this
00:53:13
happened [Music] but in a stunning development Jeff muziek claims he not only knows who
00:53:24
killed his daughter he says he was threatened by them this week two days ago I was confronted by one of the
00:53:30
people involved in Lindsay's murder he bullied me intimidated me called me down profanity threatened me with physical
00:53:38
violence the police were called susiaccess there was also an incident at the Victoria courthouse on Monday
00:53:45
involving a drug dealer with a long and violent criminal record who he says knows who killed his daughter you can
00:53:52
see images of Vanessa Veda confronting Jeff Busey ak online a link will be provided in the show notes here is Jeff
00:54:00
commenting further about who he believes is responsible for Lindsay's murder group of local thugs who decided they
00:54:07
wanted to put out a message for people who squawk on them so they singled out my daughter and slaughtered her Saanich
00:54:15
police won't comment on whether the people blue dziak thinks killed his daughter are suspects or persons of
00:54:21
interest jeff says that Matt McDuck is in constant contact with him always trying to help you up the Zelo is on the
00:54:29
other hand he says I've never offered any hope at all in the hunt for Lindsay's killers business though
00:54:35
continues to go extremely well for the celos flash houses fast cars expensive boats no shortage of cash real estate
00:54:45
and mortgages continued to be very profitable in Victoria what did Lindsey know what did she see she told Jeff she
00:54:54
saw something she shouldn't have it's believed all of the mentioned groups in this story know what happened
00:55:00
they all casually accused each other from time to time but where lies the truth in the place where everyone is
00:55:08
connected to everyone to a certain extent it's believed that nobody wants to talk because they are all connected
00:55:16
connected to the extent that Lindsay's murder occurred one day after seven senior police officers retired and not
00:55:22
one was called back to work the case Lyndsey's murder is a murder mystery of epic proportions because so much is know
00:55:30
so much is out there so much has talked about but who called it and wire we contacted the Senate police
00:55:43
department and detective Chris Horsley the officer in charge of the case was good enough to speak to us he actually
00:55:50
listened to the episode before our conversation this is him commenting on Jeff Busey
00:55:55
exclaims he knows who killed Lindsey well I believe mr. Busey AK obviously you know is searching for answers as we
00:56:05
all are however I don't believe mr. Busey AK has any particular knowledge or definitive proof regarding the person
00:56:12
responsible for his daughter's murder I mean Jeff and I have had lots of conversations over the years and you
00:56:18
know I'm a father myself and I certainly you know can't even imagine you know what he's gone through but he's very
00:56:24
very committed to finding out who's responsible for his daughter and it really has gone through some phases over
00:56:31
the years where you know he believed a certain group of parties are responsible not switched to another group but you
00:56:38
know he has people that are assisting him in his own private investigation and based on some of the circumstances he
00:56:46
you know he's discovered he thinks he's on to the people responsible we have been told that Lindsay's case he's no
00:56:53
longer being actively investigated this is what the technically had to say about
00:56:57
that yeah there's been a lot of misunderstanding the reality is is for a good portion of time we had a dedicated
00:57:05
team obviously we have hundreds of investigations just like every other Police Department in the world but we
00:57:12
were dedicating people full time to Lindsay's file and that went on for about two and a half years however some
00:57:21
of the people that were involved were redeployed meaning that they you know they had transfers they went to other
00:57:27
sessions however the files still active I mean we're not going to close down an active
00:57:31
murder investigation it's simply not going to happen nor would any other police agency so some of the people yes
00:57:37
have moved on but right now in the detective division for the people that were part of that full-time team are
00:57:44
still working in detectives and are still affiant to Lindsey's case I mean even this week we receive tips and leads
00:57:51
from members of the public I just reviewed some even though as Jeff probably told you
00:57:56
you know my transfer you know is pending one of these days but I'm still acting as the person who oversees the
00:58:05
investigation and even this week I've reviewed tips that have come in from the public and of course all those tips need
00:58:11
to be followed up so they're still actively investigating and it's by no means what people would describe as a
00:58:18
cold case it's certainly not sitting on a shelf somewhere the Internet is you know I've been in policing you know over
00:58:25
20 years now and I've never had an experience with an investigation like this I think partly because when
00:58:33
Lindsay's murder happened it was right on the cusp of social media really exploding so what we have is a murder
00:58:41
investigation that's really being put out there in the public domain I mean not by the police we we don't share
00:58:49
information with the public but people are putting their own thoughts and their own theories out there in the public
00:58:54
domain through the internet and through blogs I don't think it's a bad thing I really don't but the vast majority of
00:59:01
the information that's being put out there is simply not true the investigation is I described it one for
00:59:09
someone it's like an iceberg and as most people know ninety percent of that iceberg is under the water and you don't
00:59:14
see it and that's exactly the way this police investigation has gone the public only seen the ten percent that's above
00:59:21
the water and of what is being discussed about that ten percent above the water about ninety percent of that scene
00:59:27
correct so it's tough for us as a police organization we'd love to stand up and say no you're incorrect about that and
00:59:33
you're incorrect about this but it's not really our place we're trying to solve the murder and you know we don't
00:59:39
investigate through social media we certainly will use it to our advantage but we're not in a position where we're
00:59:44
going to be reporting out our successes and our failures because we've had both over the last eight years and we don't
00:59:51
do it in the public domain you know Victoria as you're probably aware you know it's not a huge city at 300,000
00:59:59
people I mean people everybody seems to know everybody lots of connections there's nowhere that I go whether it's
01:00:05
the grocery store or out for dinner people don't associate me with this file and people will come up to me and talk
01:00:10
to me um what I find interesting is that of all the people posting on the internet and there's hundreds of them
01:00:17
I'm sure and using anonymous names not one of them's ever bothered if only I've never received the phone call other than
01:00:23
Jeff Busey AK himself he's the only person who's actually picked up the phone and said Chris I got a question
01:00:29
for ya none of the other members of the public did Bill just post random thoughts innuendo rumor but no one's
01:00:36
ever actually given me a phone call and I've made it clear to Jeff blue act that
01:00:39
my phone's it's still sitting on my desk it still rings I'll always give you a call back when asked if Senate police
01:00:46
ever made anything of the timing of the murder with the three detectives and seven police in total retiring the day
01:00:52
before this is what he said you know what we didn't I mean to think that someone is I mean I know that conspiracy
01:01:00
theories are run amok here but do you really think that someone's planning a murder based on the retirement schedule
01:01:07
of the Saanich Police Department I mean I don't even know if those retirements for public knowledge until after the
01:01:12
people already lost there's been lots of stuff posted on the internet about why didn't call them back well we don't have
01:01:19
that authority these people learning the army that worked for a municipal police
01:01:24
department and they've retired like they're off the pension we have zero ability to call these people back into
01:01:31
work if they don't want to and furthermore nobody offered there's been a lot of talk about the 7 you know
01:01:38
senior officers I mean the majority these people never even worked in the Detective Division so their experience I
01:01:45
hope the blur was in different areas of policing those that did work in the Detective Division they didn't offer to
01:01:50
come back and you know nor would we expect them to they've retired they've gone out the door to pension and they're
01:01:57
onto the rest of their lives and you know that happens in every Police Department you lose knowledge you lose
01:02:03
that skill set and we do our best to to ensure that we have training for those transition periods and the people we had
01:02:10
on this investigation were very very experienced and I have no doubt with the quality of their abilities there's no
01:02:18
different than those that went out the door he now commenced whether or not one of the retired
01:02:22
detectives us to be led back onto the investigation well I believe that one of the retired detectives offered Jeff
01:02:29
Busey acts to come back to mr. Busey acts however that offer didn't come to the stash Police Department you know he
01:02:36
didn't come into our agency and say look I'm willing to come back to work and help you on this and my understanding is
01:02:42
is that even that offered to mr. Busey AK was sometime after the murder like two years at least so it's not like the
01:02:49
weekend of the murder we received a call from somewhere and offered to help out that did not happen we then asked
01:02:55
detective hoesley if he could explain why the case hasn't been handed over to the integrated major crime unit the
01:03:01
simple reason is the the way that it's structured is that Vancouver Island integrated major crime unit does not
01:03:08
take on historical cases so this case at the time of the murder we were not part
01:03:14
of that unit therefore the way the management structure is is that we're responsible for the homicide
01:03:19
investigation you know the sandwich police are part of that unit today but they still do not
01:03:25
take on historical cases so they have a heavy workload as do we but I think what
01:03:32
people need to understand is that many of the people that worked on Lindsay's case within the Spanish police came from
01:03:38
backgrounds similar to that integrated major crime unit primarily the primary investigator who had worked 20 years
01:03:45
with the RCMP and before coming to Saanich and had more major crime experience than anybody that we actually
01:03:52
sent to the integrated unit so there's no doubt in my mind that we had experienced people making the decisions
01:04:00
on this case information about the existence of phone records was provided to us we asked the detective hoesley if
01:04:07
he could comment on those no because the phone records obviously pertained to individuals in the community you know
01:04:14
there's lots of names that are being thrown out we obviously aren't naming suspects were not a position to name
01:04:21
anybody in the file through you know Freedom of Information legislation the only private we can ever mention anyone
01:04:27
is if a public document has been issued so if we do get to a charge approval stage
01:04:34
and charges are approved by the prosecution and that name becomes a matter of public record and we would
01:04:39
release it but up into that point we simply can't we can't discuss people's personal records or the names of the
01:04:45
individuals involved we moved on to the incident involving vid and Jeffrey dziak
01:04:50
well mr. Bujji and I have had discussions about that and mr. Busey AK has been you know a champion for his
01:04:58
daughter and when he comes to Victoria he certainly will seek out people that he believes they're persons of interest
01:05:04
and in this case he did just that and you know a discussion ensued on the on the road you know I can't really get
01:05:13
into exactly what took place however the police did attend and form the opinion that no criminal event occurred the
01:05:21
individual involved when his own way and then mr. Bujji aquent his and that was the end of it these were the technicals
01:05:27
these general thoughts on the case and the podcast you know some of the things that people take is the gospel or
01:05:33
certainly incorrect you know the poor the poor victim their injuries to the victim were never disclosed an autopsy
01:05:40
reports never been disclosed so although we've admitted that this was a horrific
01:05:46
attack we've never indicated any type of injury or nature's of injuries um one thing off
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the top of my head I know on the podcast mentioned when the witnesses showed up at the murder house you know there was
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people seen through obscured glass the fact of the matter is the people were actually seen the door was open and the
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witnesses actually observed the male suspect exiting the house so um just lots of little things that you know
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we've tried to clarify I certainly have had a lot of discussions with Jeff booyaka over the years but you know we
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don't expect it to be a hundred percent correct however you know we wish that the rumor the innuendo all those things
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you know didn't exist on the level that they do by and large the podcast is a fairly accurate portrayal of the events
01:06:34
leading up to the murder certainly certainly little things but I mean like I said they're little however I think
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the bigger picture here when you step back is you know there's gonna be one of the
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probably first murder trials where the internet is going to play a large part which is you know how many potential
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suspects have been posted on the Internet have they all been ruled out it makes for a daunting task for whatever agency
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investigating any crime like this when so many potential suspects are being discussed openly because obviously the
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prosecution is going to have to shut down all those avenues and prove that those people in fact weren't responsible
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that in itself makes the workload absolutely mammoth and that's what a large part of our job
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is every tip we receive we have to document and every tip we had received we have to show that that tip is a dead
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end and that is a huge task I think we're dealing with people that have obviously shown that they're willing to
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inflict severe violence on people and with any homicide of this nature where we strongly believe in a conspiracy to
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commit murder has occurred these people planned to kill Lindsey and coming forward could potentially make make that
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person a target so of course there's an element of fear there do we believe that
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there are people in the Greater Victoria area that are in a position of knowledge
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regarding the murder absolutely we certainly do and we certainly believe that those people may have the knowledge
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that we need to be successful in this case I know a lot of people in Greater Victoria I really do from all sorts of
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walks of life and is it possible that I've had conversation with someone who is potentially involved in this
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conspiracy to commit murder absolutely I believe that's that there's actually probably a high probability
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that I have spoken to someone involved in this crime in defending Anya that has information on the case this is what you
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can do they certainly can form the Spanish police they can contact me directly they can contact us through
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tips at the sanest police see a email address and ultimately they can contact crimestoppers and remain anonymous as
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they wish to do so this is what detective Hoadley thinks about whether another case will be
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solved absolutely absolutely the people responsible this case is completely solvable
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I think maybe there was a down point maybe you know a couple years in there's a high level of frustration but I
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believe in my heart this this file is completely solvable and that in fact were perhaps far closer than the public
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realized actually solving this case so the team has worked very very hard we work ultimately for Lindsay's mom Evelyn
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we work hard for Lindsay's father Jeff and her sister Sarah but ultimately we work for Lindsay and although I've had
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some very difficult conversations with family members and I can certainly feel their frustration because they're not
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getting information from us ultimately I'm working for Lindsay and I'm working for the end goal of finding the people
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responsible and ensuring I brought to justice here are some final words from Jeff Busey AK people need to know I
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speak for Lindsay not for me I also speak on behalf of Lindsay's family friends the community and all
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women out there that at one time or another felt that uneasiness and there being that something wasn't right and
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they feared for their safety that shouldn't be I know Lindsay's last words would have been daddy help I wasn't
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there Jason's Ella wasn't there the police weren't there so Lindsay had to face her
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executioner's alone that tears me apart every day but at the same time it motivates me to never give up on our
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precious Lindsay no matter what Lindsay's cry needs to be heard the cry of women in fear everywhere needs to be
01:10:44
heard violence against women needs to stop Saanich police need to solve this murder to stop that cry and send out the
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clear message that violence against women will not be tolerated we are all still mourning the loss of our precious
01:11:01
Lindsay the community is angry and scared because Lindsay's murder is not been solved the police provide no proof
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they are doing their job it's now eight and a half with no resolution in sight so where is
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this unsolved murder going well there is a dedicated team including myself working seven days a week on Lindsay's
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unsolved murder there are other fabulous people who dedicate their time energy and resources to assisting us to close
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in on the conspirators and murderers we gain ground on them every day the police
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say they need the public's help solving Lindsay's murder we are giving it to them with a gusto and commitment they
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have never experienced before we follow every tip we follow every rumor we follow all information we receive and
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turn it over to the police while respecting those who provide it to us let's not fool each other not everyone
01:12:04
wants to talk to the police nor do they want their names mentioned we respect that we're all in though we do things
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the police cannot do there is no holding back for us but we stay within the law what do I want to say about the police
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do I need to say anything it's been eight and a half years since Lindsay was murdered we have nothing nothing the
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police give us nothing I respect the police but they need to put some effort into this eight and a
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half years who takes eight and a half years to do a job which is nowhere near completion if this is how the world
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operated we would have all been dead a long time ago world wars have been resolved in four years world wars think
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about that all we have here is a little girl murdered in her own community by people from our community and the police
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have been dumbfounded for eight and a half years we're all crying out what the hell is going on here this is what we
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get from Saanich police though lots of explanations lots of talk about how trained dedicated and hardworking they
01:13:24
are lots of excuses about how calm placated this murder is more excuses more explanations and now blaming and
01:13:33
minimizing what we do why don't they just shut up and arrest someone for God's sake that's all we want
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today not tomorrow we all want the police to get on with their job and stop explaining blaming minimizing and giving
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us all their bloody explanations and excuses if there's good as they claim they are then arrest someone and put
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this nightmare to rest for all of us please Lindsay cried out for help her friends and family are all crying
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out for help the community wants help where the hell are the police we are all doing our part
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why don't the police just do theirs thank you all for listening we also reached out to other people
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mentioned in this episode Jason Ryan and Shirley Zelo Vida servidio Tara Sheen David Nabarro Michelle Lum Eriksen
01:14:41
Jefferson and Eldrick sandal alcázar out of all those people Jefferson is the only one who responded saying that he
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and his brothers would love to chat but we never heard anything back when trying
01:14:53
to set that up we were also unsuccessful in contacting Paul Berghof and Ziggy the offer still
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stands for anyone who wants to talk we can do a follow-up episode we can do several follow-up episodes no problem
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there are people out there who know what happened when will the truth come in [Music]
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you [Music]